Blairs Biggest Secret [Archive] - David Icke's Official Forums

View Full Version : Blairs Biggest Secret

lightgiver

26-10-2009, 11:23 PM

Is he a Freemason?

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 1/3 - YouTube

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18028651/Freemasonry-

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/beresiner7.html

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 2/3 - YouTube

http://www.geocities.com/newworldorder_themovie/knightsofmalta.html

http://www.dejanlucic.net/Blackwater.html

kadosh

26-10-2009, 11:51 PM

Tony Blair is not a Freemason. The Sovereign body of Knights of Malta are not a masonic organisation.

lightgiver

26-10-2009, 11:59 PM

Tony Blair is not a Freemason. The Sovereign body of Knights of Malta are not a masonic organisation.

Thats a yes then.:)

Blair's Biggest Secret, is he a Freemason 3/3 ( final ) - YouTube

kadosh

27-10-2009, 12:15 AM

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 12:21 AM

I can see nothing that indicates Blair is a Freemason. Lots of errors on that clip as well. Also the Scottish Rite did not start in Scotland and the world headquarters are not in Edinbugh. Quite frankly it is clips like this that contain loads of misinformation that people who do not know better believe. They then start circulating this rubbish and that is how these rumours start.

There are records of lodges conferring the degree of "Scots Master" or "Scotch Master" as early as 1733. A lodge at Temple Bar in London is the earliest such lodge on record.

Scottish Rite outside of the United States

In England and Wales, whose Supreme Council was warranted by that of the Northern Jurisdiction of the USA (in 1845)[35], the Rite is known colloquially as the "Rose Croix" or more formally as "The Ancient and Accepted Rite for England and Wales and its Districts and Chapters Overseas" (continental European jurisdictions retain the "Écossais"). The only local bodies are Rose Croix Chapters; many degrees are conferred in name only, and degrees beyond the 18° are conferred only by the Supreme Council itself.

In England, the candidate is perfected in the 18th degree with the preceding degrees awarded in name only. Continuing to the 30th degree is restricted to those who have served in the chair of the Chapter. Elevation beyond the 30th degree is as in Scotland.

In Scotland, candidates are perfected in the 18th degree, with the preceding degrees awarded in name only. A minimum of a two-year interval is required before continuing to the 30th degree, again with the intervening degrees awarded by name only. Elevation beyond that is by invitation only, and numbers are severely restricted.

kadosh

27-10-2009, 12:25 AM

There are records of lodges conferring the degree of "Scots Master" or "Scotch Master" as early as 1733. A lodge at Temple Bar in London is the earliest such lodge on record.
So what, and yes I know that. You seem to think that this has something to do with the Scottish Rite. You see it is stuff that you read like this and do not understand and then repeat that spreads wrong information. You need to do a lot of research on Freemasonry to catch up before you can have a meaningful dialogue on the matter. Come back in 20 years.

kadosh

27-10-2009, 12:29 AM

lightgiver - I am not sure what you are attempting to prove by these cut and paste messages. I'm even sure you do not understand the contents. Unfortunately you are not a giver of any light. Do some proper research and come back here a long time in the future when you will at least hopefully know the basics of Freemasonry. BTW - you forgot to delete the footnote number '35' from wherever you copied that text from. It is usual to provide links of source information when copying material.

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 12:30 AM

So what, and yes I know that. You seem to think that this has something to do with the Scottish Rite. You see it is stuff that you read like this and do not understand and then repeat that spreads wrong information. You need to do a lot of research on Freemasonry to catch up before you can have a meaningful dialogue on the matter. Come back in 20 years.

Thats all you repeat so what,yeah so what.

People can make up their own minds,something collectives are not used to.:)

Fans of yours.

kadosh

27-10-2009, 12:34 AM

I really do not have time for this rubbish. It is not worth replying to.

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 12:36 AM

i really do not have time for this rubbish. It is not worth replying to.

so what

meksar

27-10-2009, 12:36 AM

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/290706Grove.htm

http://srsen.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/tony-blair-jesuits-satanic-eu/

http://www.illuminati-news.com/112106a.htm

http://100777.com/node/1269

diamond dogs

27-10-2009, 12:38 AM

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 12:39 AM

Thx Lightgiver interesting stuff about Fabian Wolfman Bliar.. I like the part where it is stated that these people will have to reincarnate many times to complete the cycle... many many times..I would imagine as victims of their traits :)

Oh Yes,I prefer not to take any chances ;)

Cheers Meksar for the contribution,

Blair to attend Bohemian Grove This Weekend?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2006/290706Grove.htm

Tony Blair
SMOM Knight of Malta
Freemason, 33 Degree
Bilderberger
Ex British Prime Minister(maybe soon to be the President of the EU)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3337347.ece

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3502/popeblairmasonhandshakezb3.th.png (http://img100.imageshack.us/i/popeblairmasonhandshakezb3.png/)

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/3682281/Knights_of_Malta_elect_another_Englishman_as_new_l eader/

kadosh

27-10-2009, 12:40 AM

meksar

27-10-2009, 12:46 AM

meksar - Virtually all of those links contain mostly a lot of rubbish. Do some proper research and investigate this for yourself. Do not rely on the websites of other people who have their own agenda.

http://seeker401.wordpress.com/2009/09/11/tony-cherie-blair-revelations-reiterate-elite-occult-obsession/

http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2005/09sep/cherieblair.html

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23381620-the-porn-star-past-of-cherie-blairs-best-friend---according-to-her-ex-fiance.do

http://barnabasnagy.com/2008/10/24/tony-blair-the-ambassador-of-satan-to-create-babylon/

cruise4

27-10-2009, 12:46 AM

kadosh... just freely tell us. This is a forum for information and we want to get to the truth. "Do not rely on the websites of other people who have their own agenda" is a bit difficult on the internet. So help or continue to hinder which is a clue on it's own.

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 01:10 AM

meksar - Virtually all of those links contain mostly a lot of rubbish. Do some proper research and investigate this for yourself. Do not rely on the websites of other people who have their own agenda.

The words of JFK ring true today.

The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.:)

JFK Secret Society Speech Re-edit - YouTube

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions–by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labour leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumour is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will.

Code of the Illuminati: Part III of Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism: Part III. The Antisocial Conspiracy: Chapter X. Continuation of the Discourse on the Lesser Mysteries:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/mhj/mhj311.htm

This sudden transition naturally leads Weishaupt to the developement of a mystery of iniquity for which we have long since seen him preparing his Major Illuminees, and particularly the Scotch Knights of illuminization. The better to understand this mystery, let us recall to mind how the Insinuators or the teachers began by solemnly assuring their different Candidates, Novices, or Minerval Academicians, that in all the lodges of Illuminism there never arises a question in the least degree prejudicial to religion or the state. All these promises have been gradually lost sight of, and the proselyte has had time to accustom his ears to declamations against the priesthood and royalty

malison

27-10-2009, 07:25 AM

If Blair is indeed a freemason, so what?

Why does this matter?

Brilliant if he was.

stevepenny

27-10-2009, 08:39 AM

There are records of lodges conferring the degree of "Scots Master" or "Scotch Master" as early as 1733. A lodge at Temple Bar in London is the earliest such lodge on record.

Lightgiver,

A quick note on Masonic research that might help you. Firstly Wikipedia (the source of the passage above) is not an authoritative source.

Secondly, a quick 5 minute check on the passage, using the appropriate material, would have told you the following:

The Lodge at Temple Bar, which was never given a formal name, was first constituted on April 25th 1722. It's constitutional roll number varied from 7 to 8 to 9 until it's break up in 1744. It met at a number of different locations including; 'The Old Devil', 'Daniels Coffee House', 'The Devil Tavern' and 'The Ship'.

A 'Scots Master' Degree was at one time practiced in Switzerland in a bid to combine elements of French, German and English Freemasonry and Gould contends that the 'Scots Master' degree is of French Origin.

So what we have is as follows: A lodge with no name; with no difinitive position on the roll of the Grand Lodge; with no Lodge records; that only existed for 19 years; alledgedly practiced a degree of possibly French origin.

keystone

27-10-2009, 08:59 AM

Blair is NOT a freemason. We went round this buoy at length only a few weeks ago in another thread.

Why is it that you can tell someone that the earth is an average 93 million miles from the sun and they will believe you but say that "the paint is wet" and they won't and have to touch it to prove you wrong?

Cheers

keystone

27-10-2009, 09:00 AM

brilliant if he was.ymbfj

malison

27-10-2009, 09:04 AM

ymbfj

:D ;)

Sprat to catch a mackerel.

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 08:42 PM

Lightgiver,

A quick note on Masonic research that might help you. Firstly Wikipedia (the source of the passage above) is not an authoritative source.

Secondly, a quick 5 minute check on the passage, using the appropriate material, would have told you the following:

The Lodge at Temple Bar, which was never given a formal name, was first constituted on April 25th 1722. It's constitutional roll number varied from 7 to 8 to 9 until it's break up in 1744. It met at a number of different locations including; 'The Old Devil', 'Daniels Coffee House', 'The Devil Tavern' and 'The Ship'.

A 'Scots Master' Degree was at one time practiced in Switzerland in a bid to combine elements of French, German and English Freemasonry and Gould contends that the 'Scots Master' degree is of French Origin.

So what we have is as follows: A lodge with no name; with no difinitive position on the roll of the Grand Lodge; with no Lodge records; that only existed for 19 years; alledgedly practiced a degree of possibly French origin.

Thanks for that info :)

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 08:43 PM

keystone

27-10-2009, 09:09 PM

How do we know Bliar is not a Freemason?Hi LG good to see you back.

Because we have had at least two threads running on this issue one very recently. His claimed membership of a UGLE Lodge has been investigated and the claim found to be unfounded. In the recent thread the Grand Lodge Of Scotland Records were also checked. He is not registered. If he were a freemason then it would have shown and and you would have been given a truthful answer. There would be no point otherwise.

Cheers

lightgiver

27-10-2009, 11:41 PM

Hi LG good to see you back.

Because we have had at least two threads running on this issue one very recently. His claimed membership of a UGLE Lodge has been investigated and the claim found to be unfounded. In the recent thread the Grand Lodge Of Scotland Records were also checked. He is not registered. If he were a freemason then it would have shown and and you would have been given a truthful answer. There would be no point otherwise.

Cheers

Hi Keystone,:)

Maybe it is being hidden from the lower degrees?

stevepenny

28-10-2009, 07:28 AM

Hi Keystone,:)

Maybe it is being hidden from the lower degrees?

Lightgiver,

Quite possibly; but speaking for myself; I am not in the Lower Degrees; in fact i'm not in the lower 50%. And i'm confident that my Brother KS holds an equally esteemed position.

Do you honestly think that given the political climate that has pervaded in the UK of recent years that the 'opposition' would allow a Masonic Prime Minister to go unchallenged?

free thinker

28-10-2009, 08:52 AM

I thought that Blair might have been a freemason, but i am now of the opinion that freemasonry would be too constrictive on such a shitbag.... Anyway my faith would lie in the hope some fucker would black-ball the bastard.:D

grandsecretary

28-10-2009, 09:52 AM

se19_london

28-10-2009, 09:58 AM

Hi Keystone,:)

Maybe it is being hidden from the lower degrees?

LOL - this is a classic.....it's hidden from the lower degrees, but you have more insight than those that have been initiated.....

haha always gets me that one......

Regards

lightgiver

28-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Lightgiver,

Quite possibly; but speaking for myself; I am not in the Lower Degrees; in fact i'm not in the lower 50%. And i'm confident that my Brother KS holds an equally esteemed position.

Do you honestly think that given the political climate that has pervaded in the UK of recent years that the 'opposition' would allow a Masonic Prime Minister to go unchallenged?

It is all just controlled opposition anyhow :)

I am sure the Olympians withhold lots of information from the rank and file.

lightgiver

28-10-2009, 08:25 PM

LOL - this is a classic.....it's hidden from the lower degrees, but you have more insight than those that have been initiated.....

haha always gets me that one......

Regards

( but you have more insight than those that have been initiated.....)?

It appears I do :D

Always be cautious.

pureheart

28-10-2009, 08:29 PM

And there was I thinking this thread was going to be about this...

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/uk-and-europe/2004/06/18/blair-s-daughter-s-suicide-bid.php

boots

28-10-2009, 11:02 PM

It is possible, even likely, that he is a Knight of St Columba. He might also be a member of Opus Dei.

He has the ear and the support of the Vatican which is one good reason to make sure that he does not get to the Presidency of the European Community.

They are all interconnected is one way or another.

Could Blair be a Freemason? maybe maybe not. Yet there is some connections with freemasons within the Vatican.

P2 for one.

http://www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

(Documented Evidence that Angelo Roncalli a.k.a "pope" John XXIII was a Freemason)

The following article (below) was originally printed in the Portugal Daily News on November 11, 2002. It provides documented evidence that "Cardinal" Angelo Roncalli was a practicing Freemason, which incurs automatic excommunication from the Catholic Church. Also, Roncalli's illegal usurpation of the papal throne by force, at the 1958 Papal Conclave, from the lawfully elected and true Pontiff, Gregory XVII formally Cardinal Giuseppe Siri of Genoa, Italy (Click here for information, including recently declassified FBI documents pertaining to this sinister crime (http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/gregoryXVII.htm)) makes the use of the term "Pope" in this article, in reference to this gluttonous agent of Satan [Roncalli] an impossibility.

.

meksar

29-10-2009, 03:35 AM

http://rebellenation.blogspot.com/2007/04/tony-blair-stifling-investigations-of.html

grandsecretary

29-10-2009, 09:32 AM

They are all interconnected is one way or another.

Could Blair be a Freemason? maybe maybe not. Yet there is some connections with freemasons within the Vatican.

P2 for one.

http://www.opusdeialert.com/roncaliamason.htm

(Documented Evidence that Angelo Roncalli a.k.a "pope" John XXIII was a Freemason)

The following article (below) was originally printed in the Portugal Daily News on November 11, 2002. It provides documented evidence that "Cardinal" Angelo Roncalli was a practicing Freemason, which incurs automatic excommunication from the Catholic Church. Also, Roncalli's illegal usurpation of the papal throne by force, at the 1958 Papal Conclave, from the lawfully elected and true Pontiff, Gregory XVII formally Cardinal Giuseppe Siri of Genoa, Italy (Click here for information, including recently declassified FBI documents pertaining to this sinister crime (http://www.theimmaculateheart.com/gregoryXVII.htm)) makes the use of the term "Pope" in this article, in reference to this gluttonous agent of Satan [Roncalli] an impossibility.

.

Being IN the vatican, or having members who work IN and FOR the vatican is not a connection WITH the vatican. I am no friend of the vatican, but from the evidence, P2 had no connection WITH the vatican, as an entity.

boots

29-10-2009, 10:23 AM

Being IN the vatican, or having members who work IN and FOR the vatican is not a connection WITH the vatican. I am no friend of the vatican, but from the evidence, P2 had no connection WITH the vatican, as an entity.

Have you read Gods Banker by David Yallop?

The P2 had a major influence WITH the Vatican and it's internal affairs. They killed Pope John Paul I and got away with it. Thats what happens when you have a stain which blots the cloth.

If you have a POPE who is a mason, and that was quite a few years ago and the recent debacle with P2. Then you can't tell me there is no connection there.

.

grandsecretary

29-10-2009, 10:37 AM

Have you read Gods Banker by David Yallop?

The P2 had a major influence WITH the Vatican and it's internal affairs. They killed Pope John Paul I and got away with it. Thats what happens when you have a stain which blots the cloth.

If you have a POPE who is a mason, and that was quite a few years ago and the recent debacle with P2. Then you can't tell me there is no connection there.

.

Yes, and I thought it was well written and very persuasive.

I agree that when you have a Pope who is a freemason then that is a whole new ball game.

There is a new book coming out very soon dealing with the issue. I believe that it has been previewed on line. I will try to get you the link.

boots

29-10-2009, 10:48 AM

Yes, and I thought it was well written and very persuasive.

I agree that when you have a Pope who is a freemason then that is a whole new ball game.

There is a new book coming out very soon dealing with the issue. I believe that it has been previewed on line. I will try to get you the link.

Thank you GS:)

Much appreciated.

.

grandsecretary

29-10-2009, 10:52 AM

This is from that book:

On August 15, 1839 (101 years later), Lodge Eterna Catena of Palermo initiated a man in the name of GIOVANNI FERRETI MASTAI per its Archive No. 13,715. The same man was expelled from masonry 35 years later on March 27, 1873.

At the semi-annual meeting of the Grand Lodge of Masons Scottish Rite of the Orient of Palermo, Italy, published the Official Masonic paper at Cologne, Germany, preceded by the minute of the Lodge as follows: “’A man named Mastai Ferrati, who received baptism of Freemasonry and solemnly pledged his love and fellowship, and who afterwards was crowned POPE and King, under the title Pio Nino, has now cursed his former Brethren and excommunicated all members of the Order of Freemasons. Therefore, said Masti Ferrati is herewith, by decree of the Grand Lodge of the Orient, Palermo, expelled from the Order for perjury.”

Facts are facts, GIOVANNI MASTAI FERRETI was POPE PIUS IX, aside from being the longest reigning Pope, he may best be remembered because of the following Papal Bulls or Canon Laws:

1. Excommunication of the Order of Freemasons
2. Infallibity of the Pope
3. Mother Mary, like Jesus, was also conceived without original sin.

While Pope Pius IX was the longest reigning pope, John Paul I had the shortest reign, 33 days. The death of Pope John Paul I became a controversy, that he was terminated because of his liberal beliefs.

On the night before his death, he had dinner with two Cardinals, Cardinal Jean Villot and Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio, both it is suggested are said to be freemasons. The death of Pope John Paul I was controversial, no autopsy was carried out and in fact any autopsy was barred, (sic) the decision of the Carmelego.

You may ask, who and what the Carmalego is, he is the cardinal who takes responsibility of the church on the death of a pope and has to call together the Vatican council within 15 days of the death of the Pope.

The Carmalego has for that period with two other cardinals the power to run the church. Who was the Carmelego, none other than Cardinal Villot; officially it was announced as natural cause while others may suggest that there may be extenuating circumstances.

Elected on October 16, 1978 to succeed Pope John Paul I, Cardinal Karol Joseph Wojtyla of Krakow was known as Pope John Paul II.

Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio was the Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Bishops (This is a crucial Congregation since it appoints new Bishops.) Interesting to note that Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio was removed from this very office by Pope Paul V1 4 years previous for being a mason.

Cardinal Baggio was the Secretary of State under Pope John Paul II from 1989 to 1992 and has a Masonic code name of “SEBA.” (Source: Masons list from the Bulletin de l’Occident Chretien Nr.12, July 1976, Directeur Pierre Fautrad a Fye 72490 Bourge Le Roi.).

At 6:18 p.m. on the day he was elected Pope, Cardinal Tisserant announced in the chapel that Karol Wojtyla of Krakow had been elected pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church. Cardinal Jean Villot, the Carmelego chamberlain, approached Wojtyla and asked in Latin: “In accordance with the canon law, do you accept?" (Source: Journey to Rome”, Newsweek article which ran in The Phoenix Gazette on 4/08/95).

This is taken from a manuscript copy. It has never been seen before. An exclusive for the David Icke Forum!

Here is a link: http://www.joe-riley.net/

kweli

29-10-2009, 04:22 PM

This is from that book:

This is taken from a manuscript copy. It has never been seen before. An exclusive for the David Icke Forum!

Here is a link: http://www.joe-riley.net/

Cheers me dears.. looks very interesting.

stewart edwards

29-10-2009, 05:00 PM

You might find this amusing and interesting:-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/26/making-blair-eu-president-crazy

In brief there are countries that he may be legally tried for war crimes if he were to set foot on their soil.

grandsecretary

29-10-2009, 05:04 PM

Step aside Stewy. Bigger fish to fry! Are we on the right thread? :)

zyphus

29-10-2009, 05:18 PM

lightgiver

30-10-2009, 07:10 PM

boots

30-10-2009, 07:28 PM

This is from that book:

This is taken from a manuscript copy. It has never been seen before. An exclusive for the David Icke Forum!

Here is a link: http://www.joe-riley.net/

Interesting book.

Holy Blood Holy Grail sounds even better;)

.

marpat

30-10-2009, 07:31 PM

To the original poster..

I've E Mailed Chris Everard, who was he producer of that 'documentary', and asked him to source his links one way or another and he has so far declined. It's been almost a month now.

His only evidence was that leading conspiracy researchers have said so. Pretty weak to be fair and the lack of correspondence speaks volumes.

Well my geordie brother he probably doesnt like people asking questions. It is pretty easy to create videos where you can claim all sorts of things and you will get plenty of people who will just suck it right up without ever looking for sources. There are a lot of youtubes vids linked in this forum which are pure shite yet people circulate them as if they are factual

decim

30-10-2009, 08:47 PM

It is obvious bliar was a crypto-catholic-opus dei agent while burrowing into government & conducting the vaticans centuries old agenda to destroy England, the UK & bring our land back under the yoke of the wholly roman pimpire, using the jesuits, the ira, the eu, the argentinians, french & other catholic vassals and provocateurs.

The evidence is self evident.

lightgiver

30-10-2009, 11:58 PM

Interesting book.

Holy Blood Holy Grail sounds even better;)

.

Two Royal Families in Great Britain have claimed of them to be descendants of the Royal House of David, a Bloodline which supposedly produced many of the ruling Houses of Europe today, including the British Monarchy and current ruling House of Windsor. The other family important to this lineage is the Scottish House of Stuart (Spencer), whose most infamous descendant was the late Princess Diana. While there is discrepancy as to whether or not the Windsor claims to the Throne of England are legitimate (being descendants of the Germanic House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha), most agree that the Stuart lineage are not only the rightful heirs to the Throne of England (and Scotland), yet also to the Throne of David, and Israel itself. In light of this, it was therefore of paramount importance that the Windsor's seek out a 'Virgin' of the Merovingian Bloodline to marry into, in effect, to finally legitimize their long held Occult power and authority claimed of them being descendants of Crusader Godfrey de Bouillon, who was given the honor of the Kingdom and declared "King of Jerusalem" in 1099, as well as creating what they see would be a unique Christ descendant from such a union of their draconic lineages that would forever legitimize their tight grasp on the British Monarchy. Therefore this intriguing and most infamous of arranged marriages between Charles and Grail Princess Diana was not hatched solely by the Windsor's themselves, it was of far more ancient design and connected to the Knights Templar. Interestingly enough, six months after the Royal Wedding, while Diana was already three months pregnant, came the release of Holy Blood Holy Grail in which the three authors made the shocking claim of the secret of the Knights Templar. This 'secret' being propagated to the world in 1982 contained the genealogical record of the Davidic Bloodline passing through Christ and His descendants to became the Frankish Merovingian Kings, a secret which curiously became the foundation for the modern Occult itself, connected to their prophecy about the birth of a future Antichrist figure.

This ancient secret that included a unique Bloodline supposedly descended from King David was so powerfully wrought with arcane knowledge that it threatened the gluttonous ruling classes of Europe and Church, granting the original Templars enough power to rival both Europe's nobles and the Church itself with extinction. The Knights Templars practised and prospered, worshipping a god named Baphomet which many believed to be the Devil. In time the Church, as well as the new King of France (who it is said was awash in Templar debt) had enough, the decree went out and the once untouchable Knights Templar who had grown so vastly powerful in such a short time, were rounded up and put to death wherever they were found, yet many were not found. The year was 1313, and the abrupt disappearance of a major part of the European infrastructure left some to speculate that Templars had escaped into the underground, taking with them their vast wealth, power, and knowledge. And so it was, from France into Scotland, the Templars took with them their heretical lineage, science, and secrets where they patiently waited, and subtly worked. Many of today's secret fraternal Orders, including Scottish Rite Freemasonry, as well as the cunningly devised metaphysical movements which prepare for a New Age, even Satanic cults themselves, all trace their spiritual roots to Grail Templarism as well as the so-called Divine Feminine. While in Scotland, the Templars created the Jacobite movement, putting its cause behind the Royal House of Stewart. The "Davidic Bloodline" had now secured a Crown in what was becoming the most powerful country in the world, as Queen Elizabeth I dies without an heir and James Stewart VI of Scotland becomes King James of England. The Knights Templar, and their Royal House of Stewart were thence connected to the powerful Bloodline and seat, a Bloodline which eventually produced Lady Diana Spencer, the late Princess of Wales.

http://www.grailcode.net/ http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/antichrist/author.html

"Holy Blood, Holy Grail" published by Dell Pub Co, 666 Fifth Avenue, New York; demonstrate[s] the link between Mysticism, Occultism and the 33° Freemasons. Shows how they are cooperating, and have been for years, to produce the New World Order and its man, Antichrist. Ever wonder about Merlin in the King Arthur romances or the origins of Freemasonry, De Molay Society or the Rosicrucians? We recommend this book to the mature believer in the Biblical Jesus Christ who wants to see how European this entire New Age One World Government Plan is.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/review/rv111.html

In the latter time of their book about the Holy Blood theory, they state that they noticed the repeating theme of the Grail in their historical research. For example, Godfroi de Bouillon was according to medieval legend desecended from Lohengrin, the Knight of the Swan, who was in one Grail text the son of Perceval, the original Grail hero. However, the real similarities seem to arise when comparing several aspects of the Celtic Arthurian legend to the Merovingian Empire.

The Holy Grail: The Legend, the History, the Evidence p. 135

There are at least a dozen families in Britain and Europe today with numerous collateral branches who are of Merovingian lineage. These include the Houses of Hapsburg-Lorraine, Plantard, Luxembourg, Montpezat, Montesquiou, and various others. According to the Prieure documents, the Sinclair family in Britain is also allied to the Bloodline as are various branches of the Stuarts. All of these Houses could claim a pedigree from Jesus; and if one man at some point in the future is to be put forward as a new Priest-King [Messiah], we do not yet know who he is.

Holy Blood Holy Grail p. 409-10

It seems to be another deception designed to bestow apparent credibility on the Merovingian survival story, this time laying a trail to London. All this prompted Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln to hypothesize that the mysterious Grail represented a real lineage - a bloodline...yet whose bloodline was it?

The Sion Revelation p. 209, 261

The Royals of Great Britain in particular have arranged for the destruction of Christianity. The Holy Grail blasphemously represents the Blood of Jesus as having been preserved in this Royal Family, which is heir to the Throne at Jerusalem. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (p. 406) speaks of a New King of "the Holy Seed of David" who will preside over a "Masonic Kingdom." Who might be the heir of this purported Royal Bloodline of Jesus deemed worthy to sit on the Throne of David?

Lady Diana was married to Prince Charles to combine the House of Windsor and the House of Stuart. The authors of "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" include a list of noble families of Merovingian heritage which include the following quote: "According to the 'Prieuré documents,' the Sinclair family in Britain is also allied to the Bloodline, as are various branches of the Stuarts." Of special note, Princess Diana was a member of the Stuart family, which claims a greater nobility than the House of Windsor. Moreover, along with the glories of Freemasonry, the Stuart contribution to this Occult order is acclaimed thusly: "During their stay in France the Stuarts had been deeply involved in the dissemination of Freemasonry." Arthurian texts makes the Messianic role quite clear: 'I bring thee the desired Knight who is descended from the Bloodline lineage of King David."

http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/prophecy/priory.htm

According to the Illuminati, the Antichrist King Arthur will draw around him the bravest and noblest Knights in the realm. They and their Monarch will comprise the 'Circle of the Round Table'. In Great Britain today, certain members of the Illuminati, including Prince Charles and Prince Philip, take part in rituals and symbols of an odd secret society called the 'Order of the Garter'. This Order with its ceremonial magic, is thought to be a precursor to the coming establishment of the Round Table. So demented are the leaders of the Illuminati that they fancy themselves to be the modern-day inheritors of the Arthurian legend. Upon the appearance, expected soon, of their great and Divine King, or ruler, they would be Knights of the 'Circle of the Round Table.'.

http://www.conspiracy-net.com/satanism.txt

The state of Charles' and Diana's marriage was one of the prime reasons the Queen clearly indicated she intended to continue as Monarch until her death...(If there was a formal separation or divorce), Charles would find it all but impossible to take the religious vows at his coronation as King and head of the Church...If those events did indeed unfold, then the Throne of England would pass directly to Prince William.

Antichrist and a Cup of Tea p. 240

The Queen has appointed Prince William to be a Royal Knight Companion of the Most Noble Order of the Garter. The Order of the Garter is the most senior and the oldest British Order of Chivalry and was founded by Edward III in 1348. The Future King Prince William becomes the 1,000th Knight in the Register of the ancient Order.

The Insider - Prince William initiated becomes a Knight of the Garter:

Prince William, who will be the 1,000th Knight in the Register,

http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=2710

During the 19th century the Prieure de Sion working through Freemasonry and the Hieron du Val d'or attempted to establish a revived and "updated" Holy Roman Empire - a kind of United States of Europe ruled simultaneously by the Hapsburgs and by a radically reformed Church. A Europe of this sort would constitute a new and unified political force in international affairs - an entity whose status would ultimately be comparable to the Soviet Union or the United States. Indeed, it might well emerge stronger than either. The Hieron du Val d'or...sought to reconcile - as the legendary Ormus was said to have reconciled - Christian and pagan mysteries. And it ascribed special significance to Druidic thought.

Holy Blood Holy Grail p. 410-411, 228

Naturally Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln pondered on the emphasis on the United States of Europe and its central place on the Priory's agenda, noting in The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail that it aims would seem to include a theocratic United States of Europe, a trans- or pan-European confederation assembled into a modern empire and ruled by a dynasty descended from Jesus.

The Sion Revelation p. 402-403

Delving into the Priory's murkey history reveals even darker links with racist, collaborationist, and even terrorist groups...it seems that at least the concept of the European Union is the product of an Occult conspiracy inspired by individuals who believed they were in contact with spirit entities. Where it will go next remains to be seen, but almost certainly sooner or later it will affect us all.

The Sion Revelation p. 430-431

To the Holy Blood Holy Grail authors, Plantard explained that certain American Bankers were involved with Priory [Secret Societies] because they supported the concept of a United States of Europe [and the entire Antichrist agenda] although the United States generally regards a united Europe as an economic rival and a challenge to its global position, *certain* interests [within the American Banking system that] do welcome such a move.*

The Sion Revelation p. 268

*And this is the very reason why we are now seeing such questionable moves by American Bankers and lending institutions that has led to the worsening American financial crisis. As a result, they are now readying the world for a global currency, a currency that would supercede and destroy the American Dollar outright, which is the first phase of forcibly bringing America down allowing for Europe to eventually take the reigns of global power.

Europe,ring a bell.;)Blair smoothing the way eh.

The Club of Rome is a conspiratorial umbrella organization promoting World Government, and the marriage between Anglo-American financiers and Noble families of Europe, particularly of London (Queen Elizabeth, Prince Philip). The key to the successful control of the world is their ability to create and manage savage economic recessions and eventual economic depressions.

meksar

31-10-2009, 01:11 AM

http://www.webstonne.com/IckeList.html

boots

31-10-2009, 01:14 AM

lightgiver

31-10-2009, 07:34 PM

Fascinating read LG

Thanks for that. That tied in a lot of the missing pieces of the puzzle.

The Scottish rite of freemasonry is indeed an occult organisation, hellbent on bringing in a NWO with Prince William as their head. He is a member of the Order of the Garter.

All these secret society have ties to one another.

.

its worth bearing in mind,

With the EU Presidency looming,lisbon treaty being signed etc etc looks like things are going as planned.

Revelation 13:2; Daniel 7:5, 24 The Beast I saw which arose from the sea was like unto a Leopard, its feet were as a Bear, the mouth of a Lion. And behold another beast, like unto a bear, it raised up itself on one side and had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh. And a (little horn) arises, he shall subdue three kings... This vision and prophecy of the Antichrist is given by the Angel Gabriel to the prophet Daniel who cannot understand it, therefore the Angel interprets: The Angel then describes a Bear" who subdues "three ribs" (3 Kingdoms) suggests that the Antichrist arrives in either warlike fashion immediately putting down three kingdoms, or more peacefully, placing the three under his subjection or annexation. I believe it will be a peaceful annexation with the three to be Scotland, Ireland, and Wales, unified into a future Anglo-Celtic nation which comes together in the future out of necessity and under the rule of a new King Arthur (as Arthur lived at a time when these nations were still unified). Understand that many nations at that time will have been obliterated and their borders reduced after the cataclysm and 2012 pole shift. This would also explain why in the future there are only ten European nations from which the Revived Roman Empire arises with, as perhaps only ten nations of Western Europe will actually survive the coming cataclysm. Interestingly enough, we are already seeing the Celtic nations of today feel the need to return to their common tribal roots as if beguiled to do so, as if heeding some unseen call to return in unity. A strongly united Celtic nation just may prompt other post-2012 nations to follow suit and band together along a shared or common ancestry, and as such, all ten of these conglomerate nations shall eventually be placed under the rule of the Beast.

Given the increasing lies and false archaeology of a linked ancestry through the ongoing Lost Tribes of Israel research, as well as its own prophecies, it stands to reason and makes sense that these very regional nations would in fact unite under a common banner in a future which is appointed for destructions, both natural and man-made, who then join together and unite thru convienance or necessity, yet group together nontheless into larger nations, a mere foreshadow of what is to come in that final Global Empire, divided by ten, later ruled by Ten Kings, yet all under Antichrist. If so, this means then that Antichrist first appears on the world scene almost immediately having three nations loyal to him (England, Scotland, and Wales yet could also include Ireland) and rally in unison behind him, declaring him as their Unified King, and with these three, he eventually rises in power to take in ten more loyal to his rule, for a total of thirteen (a number strongly connected with those involved with the Antichrist plan throughout the ages.) Notice that it is the Angel Gabriel who provides the interpretation of the vision to Daniel stating that the "Little Horn" [Antichrist] is also symbolized by a Bear. In other words, the Antichrist is "the Bear." Remember, the ancient Celtic word for Bear is Arth-ur, and the name Arthur literally means Bear. The Book of Revelation provides a parallel yet expanded view of the nature of Antichrist which is hauntingly familiar of Daniel's vision, and perhaps adds something more. In it we see the Beast is a four-fold creature, being a Dragon, Bear, Leopard, and Lion, exactly the same creatures from Daniel's vision, however, in Revelation, we now see added features of the Wild Beast, who now takes on more detailed attributes of a Red Dragon. From these we can understand there is a mystery to solve in these, very different, amalgamated and merged [Lion/Leopard/Bear] Beasts which make up the totality of the future post-apocalyptic Antichrist Beast-King.

Prince William, Duke of Cambridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://www.grailcode.net/

The Rise of the European Superstate - YouTube

During the 19th century the Prieure de Sion working through Freemasonry and the Hieron du Val d'or attempted to establish a revived and "updated" Holy Roman Empire - a kind of United States of Europe ruled simultaneously by the Hapsburgs and by a radically reformed Church. A Europe of this sort would constitute a new and unified political force in international affairs - an entity whose status would ultimately be comparable to the Soviet Union or the United States. Indeed, it might well emerge stronger than either. The Hieron du Val d'or...sought to reconcile - as the legendary Ormus was said to have reconciled - Christian and pagan mysteries. And it ascribed special significance to Druidic thought.

Holy Blood Holy Grail p. 410-411,

Delving into the Priory's murkey history reveals even darker links with racist, collaborationist, and even terrorist groups...it seems that at least the concept of the European Union is the product of an Occult conspiracy inspired by individuals who believed they were in contact with spirit entities. Where it will go next remains to be seen, but almost certainly sooner or later it will affect us all.

The Sion Revelation p. 430-431

Sir Evelyn De Rothschild And The Unholy Trinity Part 1 - YouTube

boots

31-10-2009, 09:03 PM

I think it's more global than just the UK, lightgiver.

There is the push to have a American union, a Asian union and of course the European union.

Though I can agree with the context of your above post. That the antichrist will come from England and it points to William.

Obama and Blair are the useful puppets, they will rise and then they will fall to make way for the King.

.

marpat

31-10-2009, 09:32 PM

Interesting book.

Holy Blood Holy Grail sounds even better;)

.

I watched a documentary today and one of the guys who wrote, Henry I think, the book was saying that what was written in the book is nothing more than what some people laid claim to. They did not back any of their claims up. All the writers did was to take the material and print it.

lightgiver

31-10-2009, 09:54 PM

skiver

31-10-2009, 10:26 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6893161.ece

;)

boots

31-10-2009, 10:36 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_nRMiVrOqs

All roads lead to Rome or should I say Israel?;)

..http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6415/supremecourtjd0.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supremecourtjd0.jpg)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5602/rothschild1ea6.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rothschild1ea6.jpg)

jakemaverick

31-10-2009, 10:46 PM

If Blair is indeed a freemason, so what?

Why does this matter?

Brilliant if he was.

what does 'On Warning' mean?

lightgiver

31-10-2009, 11:43 PM

All roads lead to Rome or should I say Israel?;)

..http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/6415/supremecourtjd0.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supremecourtjd0.jpg)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5602/rothschild1ea6.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rothschild1ea6.jpg)

It appears that way.

smoke n mirrors

31-10-2009, 11:45 PM

what does 'On Warning' mean?

Do you mean below a users name?

If so they have accumulated enough naughty points from the mods to warrant a warning. Generally for abusive, threatening or provocative post.

Its the naughty step. :eek: If they persist with their style of posting it could lead to a ban.

If you read the forum rules it should explain in more detail or you could PM a mod for more info.

Hope that helps.

lightgiver

01-11-2009, 06:52 PM

Hey boots and anyone else,what are your thoughts on this?

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8294/tentribes.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/tentribes.jpg/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Levy,_Baron_Levy

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5615/lordlevyandblairvi7.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/lordlevyandblairvi7.jpg/)

Israel lobby in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Levy first met Tony Blair at a dinner party in 1994, hosted by Israeli diplomat Gideon Meir, the two having a common friend in Eldred Tabachnik, a senior barrister (now a QC and a former president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews) at 11 King's Bench Walk, the chambers founded by Derry Irvine where Blair had trained in the early 1980s. They soon became close friends and tennis partners. Levy ran the Labour Leader's Office Fund to finance Blair's campaign before the 1997 General Election and received substantial contributions from such figures as Alex Bernstein and Robert Gavron, both of whom were ennobled by Blair after he came to power. Levy, himself, was created a life peer in 1997 as Baron Levy, of Mill Hill in the London Borough of Barnet. Since making his maiden speech on 3 December 1997, Levy has not spoken in a debate at the House of Lords.

He is a supporter of Labour Friends of Israel and has been described by The Jerusalem Post as "undoubtedly the notional leader of British Jewry". He is also a member of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the leadership of UK Jewish community. Levy has close ties with the Israeli Labour Party and maintains a home in Jerusalem. His son, Daniel Levy, is active in Israeli political life, and has served as an assistant to the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and to Knesset member Yossi Beilin. Levy has praised Blair for his "solid and committed support of the State of Israel" .

The Tribe of the Serpent: DAN - YouTube

boots

01-11-2009, 11:05 PM

Hey boots and anyone else,what are your thoughts on this?

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8294/tentribes.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/tentribes.jpg/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Levy,_Baron_Levy

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5615/lordlevyandblairvi7.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/lordlevyandblairvi7.jpg/)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_the_United_Kingdom

Levy first met Tony Blair at a dinner party in 1994, hosted by Israeli diplomat Gideon Meir, the two having a common friend in Eldred Tabachnik, a senior barrister (now a QC and a former president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews) at 11 King's Bench Walk, the chambers founded by Derry Irvine where Blair had trained in the early 1980s. They soon became close friends and tennis partners. Levy ran the Labour Leader's Office Fund to finance Blair's campaign before the 1997 General Election and received substantial contributions from such figures as Alex Bernstein and Robert Gavron, both of whom were ennobled by Blair after he came to power. Levy, himself, was created a life peer in 1997 as Baron Levy, of Mill Hill in the London Borough of Barnet. Since making his maiden speech on 3 December 1997, Levy has not spoken in a debate at the House of Lords.

He is a supporter of Labour Friends of Israel and has been described by The Jerusalem Post as "undoubtedly the notional leader of British Jewry". He is also a member of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, the leadership of UK Jewish community. Levy has close ties with the Israeli Labour Party and maintains a home in Jerusalem. His son, Daniel Levy, is active in Israeli political life, and has served as an assistant to the former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and to Knesset member Yossi Beilin. Levy has praised Blair for his "solid and committed support of the State of Israel" .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kanfnnc8CKc

They all suck:mad:

Considering what is going on in the Middle East right now with the Palestinians and the Israeli Government. It's like the end times not only for them but humanity. That's their plan to bring about biblical prophecy, whether you believe in the Bible or not. It's matters not to them . The 33 degree masons play a big role in this.

.

lightgiver

02-11-2009, 02:22 AM

They all suck:mad:

Considering what is going on in the Middle East right now with the Palestinians and the Israeli Government. It's like the end times not only for them but humanity. That's their plan to bring about biblical prophecy, whether you believe in the Bible or not. It's matters not to them . The 33 degree masons play a big role in this.

.

The next few years should be interesting,

PART I

THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD

“Later in the evening, after a few more drinks, talk turned to the extraordinary power exercised by the Vatican.” -Mark Lane, American jurist

“No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role.” -Baron Avro Manhattan, English historian, Knight of Malta, The Vatican and World Politics

http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Vatican_Mortgage_Part_1.html

"It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." -Pope Boniface, Unam Sanctam (1302)

http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Vatican_Mortgage_Part_2.html

“The Vatican is teetering on the brink of self-destruction and is calling in all the markers it has. This is BAD. All caps. The Vatican is seeing its own mortality. They were the Holy Roman Empire. They reincarnated themselves and blamed the Jews. How good a PR company do you have to have to pull that off?”

boots

02-11-2009, 07:22 AM

The next few years should be interesting,

PART I

THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD

“Later in the evening, after a few more drinks, talk turned to the extraordinary power exercised by the Vatican.” -Mark Lane, American jurist

“No political event or circumstance can be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican's part in it. And no significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play an important explicit or implicit role.” -Baron Avro Manhattan, English historian, Knight of Malta, The Vatican and World Politics

http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Vatican_Mortgage_Part_1.html

"It is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff." -Pope Boniface, Unam Sanctam (1302)

http://willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/Vatican_Mortgage_Part_2.html

“The Vatican is teetering on the brink of self-destruction and is calling in all the markers it has. This is BAD. All caps. The Vatican is seeing its own mortality. They were the Holy Roman Empire. They reincarnated themselves and blamed the Jews. How good a PR company do you have to have to pull that off?”

The Vatican has been the corner stone of the manipulation of the world. No other organisation has the power that they do. They have within it, nearly or the secret societies......and that makes it formidable. The laws we have are based on Christian religion, The Queen swears an oath to religion, At the time of her coronation she held the KJB and said "this is the greatest book the world could afford". Forget all the sects of Christianity and Judaism. That's just a cover for the real rulers of this planet. Islam is no better.

The essence of these philosophies is based on morals. A lot of distractions have been placed within the so called books. This is to CON fuse the masses.

So lets hope that the Vatican and all the secret societies and Satanist go down in a ball of flames.

Fuck'm, Fuck'm ALL.

.

grandsecretary

02-11-2009, 10:50 AM

I take it that you will not be going to confession this week boots? ;)

lightgiver

02-11-2009, 06:46 PM

The Vatican has been the corner stone of the manipulation of the world. No other organisation has the power that they do. They have within it, nearly or the secret societies......and that makes it formidable. The laws we have are based on Christian religion, The Queen swears an oath to religion, At the time of her coronation she held the KJB and said "this is the greatest book the world could afford". Forget all the sects of Christianity and Judaism. That's just a cover for the real rulers of this planet. Islam is no better.

The essence of these philosophies is based on morals. A lot of distractions have been placed within the so called books. This is to CON fuse the masses.

So lets hope that the Vatican and all the secret societies and Satanist go down in a ball of flames.

Fuck'm, Fuck'm ALL.

.

Catholicism's pagan roots - Passin' the Hat - YouTube

Protestantism and Freemasonry - The KJV, Bacon, Fludd, Luther, and Rosicrucian Cabals

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/protestantism_freemasonry.html

I wonder what GSs thoughts are and the other Freemasons who frequent the forum on the whole affair(British Israelite connection)?seeing some Masons are connected to this.

"The British monarchy and its prime ministers and Foreign Office fabricated British Israelism in the nineteenth century, from earlier versions of the story. They claimed that Queen Victoria was descended from the Biblical King David, and was thus a descendant of the Davidic family tree that produced Jesus. They taught that the tribes of Israel wandered into northern Europe; that by this supposed genealogy, the British are the real Chosen People, and the British Empire is thus God's empire.

"The modern Jews, by this British account, are not the historical Hebrews of Old Testament Israel, but rather, the British are. But, says the British Israel myth, in a leap of logic, the Jews need to be put into Palestine, to fulfil prophecy, get slaughtered in a war with the Muslims, and bring about the End Times.

"To provide fuel for this mythology, the royal family asked the British Grand Lodge of Freemasonry to establish the Palestine Exploration Fund. In the 1870s, they dispatched soldier-archaeologists to the Holy Land, to dig up supposed religious relics that might impress the cheap fancies of the beggarly masses." -Anton Chaitkin

http://watch.pair.com/templar.html

Who Are The WICKED? - YouTube

grandsecretary

02-11-2009, 07:20 PM

decim

02-11-2009, 07:54 PM

What are the likely repercussions, if any GS?

All I can tell you is that our Committee of Theologians has brought to the attention of the Board of Deputies of British Jews that the Moderns Rosicrucian
form of freemasonry is wholly incompatible with Judaism.

This is quite recent, but so far we have not received a response. I am sure that we shall, in due course.

These things take time.

lightgiver

02-11-2009, 08:08 PM

All I can tell you is that our Committee of Theologians has brought to the attention of the Board of Deputies of British Jews that the Moderns Rosicrucian
form of freemasonry is wholly incompatible with Judaism.

This is quite recent, but so far we have not received a response. I am sure that we shall, in due course.

These things take time.

In your opinion GS,is there a British Israelite connection,and whatever your answer could you please explain.:)

moon monkey

02-11-2009, 08:17 PM

All I can tell you is that our Committee of Theologians has brought to the attention of the Board of Deputies of British Jews that the Moderns Rosicrucian
form of freemasonry is wholly incompatible with Judaism.

This is quite recent, but so far we have not received a response. I am sure that we shall, in due course.

These things take time.

Why would you concern yourselves with such matters?

What difference does it make to you and yours whether the Moderns form of masonry is compatible with judaism or not. Moderns masonry is entirely non denominational is it not?

grandsecretary

02-11-2009, 08:23 PM

Why would you concern yourselves with such matters?

What difference does it make to you and yours whether the Moderns form of masonry is compatible with judaism or not. Moderns masonry is entirely non denominational is it not?

Moderns Freemasonry is irreligious, and totally incompatible with Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism. Its rank and file members are not aware that their souls are in grave danger.

The Moderns Rosicrucian God, "a supreme being" (Deus Sivi Natura) is not the God of the Holy Bible, the Quran, or the Bhagavat Gita.

This should concern everybody.

Short list of those faiths and some churches that have officially banned the Moderns form of freemasonry on these grounds:

The entire World of Islam
The Roman Catholic Church
Synod Anglican Church of England
Methodist Church of England
General Association of Regular Baptist Churches
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church
Presbyterian Church in America
Wesleyan Methodist Church
Church of Scotland
Baptist Union of Scotland
Free Church of Scotland
Russian Orthodox Church
Assemblies of God
Church of the Nazarene
Evangelical Mennonite Church
Grace Brethren
Christian Reformed Church in America
Independent Fundamentalist Churches of America
The Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod

I agree with all of them.

boots

02-11-2009, 08:32 PM

I take it that you will not be going to confession this week boots? ;)

LOL.

NO.:D

Best to confess to the one you have harmed. Dont need no priest to do that for me.

.

boots

02-11-2009, 08:37 PM

lightgiver

02-11-2009, 09:04 PM

LOL.

NO.:D

Best to confess to the one you have harmed. Dont need no priest to do that for me.

.

Good answer :D

any chance of a reply GS to question posted on 69.

grandsecretary

02-11-2009, 09:11 PM

In your opinion GS,is there a British Israelite connection,and whatever your answer could you please explain.:)

I have answered it as far as I am able so far. When I receive a response from the Board of Deputies of British Jews this will tell me a great deal.

lightgiver

02-11-2009, 09:17 PM

I have answered it as far as I am able so far. When I receive a response from the Board of Deputies of British Jews this will tell me a great deal.

What do you think then unofficially so to speak .

Another interesting link for research http://www.scribd.com/doc/8123904/British-Israel

moon monkey

03-11-2009, 09:29 AM

Moderns Freemasonry is irreligious, and totally incompatible with Christianity, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism. Its rank and file members are not aware that their souls are in grave danger.

The Moderns Rosicrucian God, "a supreme being" (Deus Sivi Natura) is not the God of the Holy Bible, the Quran, or the Bhagavat Gita.

This should concern everybody.

Short list of those faiths and some churches that have officially banned the Moderns form of freemasonry on these grounds:

The entire World of Islam
The Roman Catholic Church
Synod Anglican Church of England
Methodist Church of England
General Association of Regular Baptist Churches
Orthodox Presbyterian Church
Reformed Presbyterian Church
Presbyterian Church in America
Wesleyan Methodist Church
Church of Scotland
Baptist Union of Scotland
Free Church of Scotland
Russian Orthodox Church
Assemblies of God
Church of the Nazarene
Evangelical Mennonite Church
Grace Brethren
Christian Reformed Church in America
Independent Fundamentalist Churches of America
The Evangelical Lutheran Synod
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod

I agree with all of them.

GS from what I can gather your form of Masonry that you refer to (Masonrie) is based on Christian faith. Does this mean that unlike Moderns Freemasonry you do not accept Muslims, Jews etc?

soleil

03-11-2009, 09:50 AM

Thx Lightgiver interesting stuff about Fabian Wolfman Bliar.. I have heard Icke also mention there are 12 (Illuminati) degrees above 33rd.. I like the part where it is stated that these people will have to reincarnate many times to complete the cycle... many many times..I would imagine as victims of their traits :)

There's a book called "The 99° of Freemasonry". I haven't read it but I'm tempted to buy it.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/libro_99FM.html

As for Blair, I initially thought that his conversion to the Roman state religion was to endear his presidency bid to the Catholic powers of Europe. Then again after the (Masonic?) anti-clerical revolutions in France and Italy and the progress of secularism, I'm not sure if Europe would now accept Blair.

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by moon monkey

GS from what I can gather your form of Masonry that you refer to (Masonrie) is based on Christian faith. Does this mean that unlike Moderns Freemasonry you do not accept Muslims, Jews etc?

Our Free Masonrie is not Moderns freemasonry and the question therefore does not pertain. Our Free Masonrie is time immemorial. It pre-dates Christianity and is therefore based upon what Christianity is based upon.

However, to try to explain. We do not believe in the Moderns "a" supreme being (Deus sivi natura), which is in their own words "a product of the Enlightenment". This is a VERY modern concept.

Our religion is pre-Davidic, believes in God and the immortality of souls, and is therefore the root of all religions that sprang from it, not just the Christian religion.

Free Masons worship God in Temples, Mosques, and Churches.

The symbolism in this stained glass window which depicts St Patrick wearing the Urim and Thummim, holding and surrounded by other ancient pre-Christian symbols might assist you:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/StPatrickofArmagh.jpg

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 10:00 AM

There's a book called "The 99° of Freemasonry". I haven't read it but I'm tempted to buy it.

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/libro_99FM.html

As for Blair, I initially thought that his conversion to the Roman state religion was to endear his presidency bid to the Catholic powers of Europe. Then again after the (Masonic?) anti-clerical revolutions in France and Italy and the progress of secularism, I'm not sure if Europe would now accept Blair.

Blair is supported in his efforts for the EU Presidency, by the Vatican. Even though Church and State have been seperated in France for some considerable time, Vatican influence on government in France, and also in Italy, should not be ignored or dismissed.

moon monkey

03-11-2009, 10:38 AM

Our Free Masonrie is not Moderns freemasonry and the question therefore does not pertain. Our Free Masonrie is time immemorial. It pre-dates Christianity and is therefore based upon what Christianity is based upon.

However, to try to explain. We do not believe in the Moderns "a" supreme being (Deus sivi natura), which is in their own words "a product of the Enlightenment". This is a VERY modern concept.

Our religion is pre-Davidic, believes in God and the immortality of souls, and is therefore the root of all religions that sprang from it, not just the Christian religion.

Free Masons worship God in Temples, Mosques, and Churches.

The symbolism in this stained glass window which depicts St Patrick wearing the Urim and Thummim, holding and surrounded by other ancient pre-Christian symbols might assist you:

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/StPatrickofArmagh.jpg

Thanks GS I will refer to your website for more information. So does Masonrie accept Jews and Muslims into it's ranks so to speak?

Also, as you (Masonrie) see Moderns Masonry as irreligious, do you consider it evil ?

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 12:51 PM

Thanks GS I will refer to your website for more information. So does Masonrie accept Jews and Muslims into it's ranks so to speak?

Also, as you (Masonrie) see Moderns Masonry as irreligious, do you consider it evil ?

Yes, on exactly the same basis that St Patrick was one of our High Priests. It is the root of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

And yes.

kadosh

03-11-2009, 03:11 PM

Yes, on exactly the same basis that St Patrick was one of our High Priests. It is the root of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Please explain what you mean by that.

stevepenny

03-11-2009, 03:25 PM

Please explain what you mean by that.

Kadosh,

I'm sure you know the answer to this one already. It is commonly referrred to as the Abrahamic religious heritage.

The key scriptural verse is known as the 'Shama' and is the root of the Abrahamic religions. “Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the Lord is One”.

You'll find it in Deutoronomy 6:4 (Moses), Mark 12:29 (Jesus) and the Qu'ranic equivalent in the Medina at 112:1 (Mohammed).

kadosh

03-11-2009, 03:31 PM

Thanks. I am not a theologian.

stevepenny

03-11-2009, 03:35 PM

Thanks. I am not a theologian.

I could be wrong but that's my understanding of Peter's remark. I'm sure he'll tell us if i'm wrong :)

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 03:53 PM

I could not have put it better Steve. Thank you.

stevepenny

03-11-2009, 05:12 PM

Dear All,

This seems to be as good a place as any to make a public statement regarding Freemasonry.

Over the weekend I had the opportunity to reflect on Freemasonry, my involvement with it, and my future within it from a spiritual perspective.

Having considered all my options, and having taking advice from close friends within my church, I have come to the conclusion that I have certain issues with 'Moderns' Freemasonry.

I have therefore requested a petition from the Grand Lodge of All England. Whether the request for a petition or the petition itself is accepted, is something for the future.

I do not intend to enter into a debate as to my reasons, although forum members with whom I have enchanged PM's may enquire if they think fit.

As to my allegiences in the future; they lie squarely with my belief in the Triune God, and to that belief I will remain true.

stewart edwards

03-11-2009, 05:35 PM

stevepenny

03-11-2009, 05:42 PM

Steve, the single best piece of advice that I can give anyone is to always follow their heart. And I know, for all of our differences, that your heart is good.

Thank you Stewart,

"And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God." (Romans 12:2)

Steve

decim

03-11-2009, 07:03 PM

AC/DC - Sin City Music Video - YouTube

Dear All,

This seems to be as good a place as any to make a public statement regarding Freemasonry.

Over the weekend I had the opportunity to reflect on Freemasonry, my involvement with it, and my future within it from a spiritual perspective.

Having considered all my options, and having taking advice from close friends within my church, I have come to the conclusion that I have certain issues with 'Moderns' Freemasonry.

I have therefore requested a petition from the Grand Lodge of All England. Whether the request for a petition or the petition itself is accepted, is something for the future.

I do not intend to enter into a debate as to my reasons, although forum members with whom I have enchanged PM's may enquire if they think fit.

As to my allegiences in the future; they lie squarely with my belief in the Triune God, and to that belief I will remain true.

lightgiver

03-11-2009, 08:04 PM

Many of the stories of the Tanakh, Bible, and the Qur'an are believed to have been based on, influenced by, or inspired by the legendary mythological past of the Near East as Judaism, being a Semitic faith, is derived from the same system of belief: proto-Semitic theism. The Enuma Elish in particular has been compared to the Genesis creation story. The story of Esther in particular is traced to Babylonian roots.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion

TWO PILLARS OF HYPOCRISY – TONY BLAIR AND THE VATICAN

http://www.zimbio.com/Pope+Benedict+XVI/articles/2GJLbe35yyg/TWO+PILLARS+HYPOCRISY+TONY+BLAIR+VATICAN

decim

03-11-2009, 08:09 PM

or these different 'flavour's' of 'abrahamic' religion achieve parity with different lodges of 'masonry', each with what they see as possessing the ultimate charter.

The actual literal, Word of God.

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 08:43 PM

Not quite with you decim. It seems you were cut off in your prime at the beginning of your posting but there is/was only one form of Free Masonrie pre-1717. The post 1717 form is the invisible College of the Rosicrucian Borhterhood, "a product of the Enlightenment". The rituals that it uses came from the Sons of Solomon in France.

"A compelling reason for silence amongst Masons is not so much a compulsion to adhere to their sacred vows, or a fear of macabre retribution from their fellows: it is more that they do not understand a word of the ceremonies they participate in, and their only fear is that people would laugh at the apparently pointless and silly rituals they perform ...

Our biggest criticism of freemasonry is its sheer pointlessness. It does not know where it came from, no one seems to know what it is trying to achieve, and increasingly it seems improbable that it can have much of a future in a world that demands a clarity of purpose and benefit."

(SOURCE: Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas: Article, The Yorkshire Post, 11 May 1996)

decim

03-11-2009, 08:51 PM

The abrahamic religions being offshoots (akin to ugle rosicrucianism forming a schism) of a pre-davidic root religion.

Druidic or Phaeronic? Both?

Not quite with you decim. It seems you were cut off in your prime at the beginning of your posting but there is/was only one form of Free Masonrie pre-1717. The post 1717 form is the invisible College of the Rosicrucian Borhterhood, "a product of the Enlightenment". The rituals that it uses came from the Sons of Solomon in France.

stevepenny

03-11-2009, 09:06 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjIpaAnWUCU

You could have suggested...

Big Balls..

I'm upper upper class high society, God's gift to ballroom notoriety,
I always fill my ballrooms the events are never small,
Some people they do say i've got,
The biggest balls of all...

lightgiver

03-11-2009, 09:15 PM

The Adopted Religion (Old Testament):

The Bible's creators were plagiarists and they got their knowledge from older races. The religion of the Masters -Egyptians and Babylonians- was transferred almost bodily into the re- vealed scriptures of the Hebrews and from there into Christianity. The source of the Biblical myths are Phoenician, Chaldean and mostly Indian, and the original of it may be found in the Mahâbhârata .Most of the Biblical myths borrowed from the Vedic-Brahman- ical literature, latter borrowed from the Chaldeans and Persians, shaped them into a history of the Hebrew nation, in which their spirit of philosophy was buried beyond the recognition. The first, second, third, fourth and fifth chapters of Genesis taken word for word from the secret Book of Numbers of the Great Oriental (Chaldean) Kabalah. Many texts of Old Canaanite mythology discovered at Ugarit. These texts not only constitute a liter- ature of high standing and great originality, but also have an important bearing on Old Testament studies. It is now evident that the patriarchal stories in the Old Testament were based on written documents of Canaanite origin.

There is no real history in the Old Testament, and the little historical information one can glean is only found in the indiscreet revelations of the prophets. The book as a whole, must have been written at various times, or rather invented as an authorization of some subsequent worship. Out of the 149 Biblical Psalms (the 14th is identical with the 53rd), 47 were copied from Yasna, the second part of the Persian Zend Avesta. Authors of the Bible were borrowed 15 more Psalms from Yasna, but they put their own ideas into them also. They composed 87 new Psalms. Pure Psalms which are borrowed from the Zend Avesta: the 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, and the 119th. The 104th Psalm is a prayer. It has written by Pharaoh Amenhotep (Akhenaton) to the Egyptian Sun-God Aton. The "Ecclesiastes" is an imitation of the Persian Holy Writ. "Song of Solomon" is very similar to the love poems of the Sumerian King Shu-sin, which are in the museum of Istanbul (Turkey) under the number 2461.

http://www.unique-design.net/library/god/life/prayer/akhenaten.html

grandsecretary

03-11-2009, 09:17 PM

The abrahamic religions being offshoots (akin to ugle rosicrucianism forming a schism) of a pre-davidic root religion.

Druidic or Phaeronic? Both?

As far as I can see, the UGLE does not claim any history, religious or otherwise, prior to 1717.

decim

04-11-2009, 02:11 AM

ugle's rituals are not based on biblical/judaic figures & practice?

Claiming has little to do with, doing.

As far as I can see, the UGLE does not claim any history, religious or otherwise, prior to 1717.

stevepenny

04-11-2009, 07:34 AM

ugle's rituals are not based on biblical/judaic figures & practice?

Claiming has little to do with, doing.

Good Morning Brother Mechanic :D - - Long may your exhaust remain rust free :D

To answer your question; Moderns Masonic ritual is based partially on Biblical references and figures. These references are broadly esoteric and are not understood by a large number of the craft.

On another thread recently I asked two Masons the significance on the Hiram Legend in the 3rd Degree; they both made poor excuses and declined to answer; and the obvious conclusion to draw from that is that they had no understanding of the ritual.

You can try this at home yourself :D:D, ask any Freemason you know the significance of the 'Lion Paw or Grip'.

boots

04-11-2009, 09:47 AM

You could have suggested...

Big Balls..

I'm upper upper class high society, God's gift to ballroom notoriety,
I always fill my ballrooms the events are never small,
Some people they do say i've got,
The biggest balls of all...

:D

Nice one Steve.

.

grandsecretary

04-11-2009, 10:32 AM

ugle's rituals are not based on biblical/judaic figures & practice?

Claiming has little to do with, doing.

Yes. Moderns rituals use biblical texts and Judaic figures.

However, we must never forget that the system itself promotes the Rosicrucian philosophy, Deus sivi natura, a denial of the creative and preservative God of the Bible, the Tora, and the Qu'uran.

The Moderns God was created by the philosophy of Baruch Spinoza, a man who layed the foundations for the 18th century Enlightenment and biblical criticism. They themselves say endlessly that the Moderns form of freemasonry is "a product of The Enlightenment".

Although he was a religious Jew, Jewish society rejected Spinoza by issuing him with cherem, the Jewish equivalent of Catholic excommunication, the punishment automatically incurred by all Moderns freemasons if they too follow Spinoza's philosophy "Deus sivi natura"; "God is nature, Nature is God"; "a" supreme being. The Rabbinic Court does not issue a cherem lightly.

This Masonic God is NOT the God of the Bible, the Tora, and the Qu'uran.

That is why I constantly remind people that the Moderns form of freemasonry is, or should be, offensive to any Christian, Jew or Muslim. What amazes me is that, as Steven Penny has pointed out elsewhere, Ministers of the Cloth are members of this organisation, even though they must realise that their participation is blasphemous.

Young men who do NOT profess this philosophy, Jews, Christians, Muslims, and now a motley mixture of agnostics and athiests, are encouraged to swear Oaths and to indulge in communal prayers and invocations to this Masonic God, which is NOT their God.

And before any Modern says that agnostics and athiests are not allowed to join, we ALL know that the door is wide open, especially in America, and it is too late. Recruits are told to say Yes when asked In Whom do you put your trust?, you do not have to actually mean it but just say it or else you will not get in." It is blatant and it is widespread. I have seen it and I have heard it, many times.

For instance, ALL candidates for the UGLE are "primed". Their answers in the lodge are NOT spontaneous, as they should be. They should not even know that they are going to be asked, and if they answer wrongly, they should be immediately led out of the lodge, never to return. This NEVER happens. Coincidence? I don't think so.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" (Exodus 20:3)

Perhaps personal advancement on this earth is more important than life hereafter? Maybe these Ministers don't believe in God themselves but it is a way of earning an easy living, and Freemasonry will give them a leg up? Who knows? It is a very strange and IMHO unhealthy situation.

stevepenny

04-11-2009, 10:37 AM

:D

Nice one Steve.

.

One of the best band to come out of Oz, along of course with the incredible Kasey Chambers.

decim

04-11-2009, 03:05 PM

By the stainlessness of their manifold you shall know them.

I comprehend that ugle playdohic non masonry masons are indeed partaking of rituals & rites of which they know little beyond the script.
They could be acting out the 'Witches Sabbath' & question not. Blinded by the light of glittering jewels, regalia & obedient sycophancy, as sheep by the 'lions of judah' & lions are partial to the odd sheep or ³³.

'Grips' are more commonly known amongst Antient & Accepted Freemechanics as 'Swan Necks' which are always present in the 'Garage' & symbolise calmness on the surface with furious paddling beneath.

The 'Mole Grip' is how a 1/2 degree Freemechanic recognises a fellow of the carcraft.

Good Morning Brother Mechanic :D - - Long may your exhaust remain rust free :D

To answer your question; Moderns Masonic ritual is based partially on Biblical references and figures. These references are broadly esoteric and are not understood by a large number of the craft.

On another thread recently I asked two Masons the significance on the Hiram Legend in the 3rd Degree; they both made poor excuses and declined to answer; and the obvious conclusion to draw from that is that they had no understanding of the ritual.

You can try this at home yourself :D:D, ask any Freemason you know the significance of the 'Lion Paw or Grip'.

decim

04-11-2009, 03:27 PM

Theirs is the crooked path.

An all too common thread is at the root of all malignant 'theory', from communism to anarchy to zionism & numerous other malefic falsity that has afflicted Humanity, originating within those of the 'chosen'.

The ugle is comparable to Lee Harvey Ozwald & JFK's arc, as 'zionists' & their groupies are to the Anglosphere.

The One eyed Jack RubE's.

They will accept Anyone as collateral for immediate use or bonded for future use.

As far as 'they' are concerned, God's away on business.

Yes. Moderns rituals use biblical texts and Judaic figures.

However, we must never forget that the system itself promotes the Rosicrucian philosophy, Deus sivi natura, a denial of the creative and preservative God of the Bible, the Tora, and the Qu'uran.

The Moderns God was created by the philosophy of Baruch Spinoza, a man who layed the foundations for the 18th century Enlightenment and biblical criticism. They themselves say endlessly that the Moderns form of freemasonry is "a product of The Enlightenment".

Although he was a religious Jew, Jewish society rejected Spinoza by issuing him with cherem, the Jewish equivalent of Catholic excommunication, the punishment automatically incurred by all Moderns freemasons if they too follow Spinoza's philosophy "Deus sivi natura"; "God is nature, Nature is God"; "a" supreme being. The Rabbinic Court does not issue a cherem lightly.

This Masonic God is NOT the God of the Bible, the Tora, and the Qu'uran.

That is why I constantly remind people that the Moderns form of freemasonry is, or should be, offensive to any Christian, Jew or Muslim. What amazes me is that, as Steven Penny has pointed out elsewhere, Ministers of the Cloth are members of this organisation, even though they must realise that their participation is blasphemous.

Young men who do NOT profess this philosophy, Jews, Christians, Muslims, and now a motley mixture of agnostics and athiests, are encouraged to swear Oaths and to indulge in communal prayers and invocations to this Masonic God, which is NOT their God.

And before any Modern says that agnostics and athiests are not allowed to join, we ALL know that the door is wide open, especially in America, and it is too late. Recruits are told to say Yes when asked In Whom do you put your trust?, you do not have to actually mean it but just say it or else you will not get in." It is blatant and it is widespread. I have seen it and I have heard it, many times.

For instance, ALL candidates for the UGLE are "primed". Their answers in the lodge are NOT spontaneous, as they should be. They should not even know that they are going to be asked, and if they answer wrongly, they should be immediately led out of the lodge, never to return. This NEVER happens. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Perhaps personal advancement on this earth is more important than life hereafter? Maybe these Ministers don't believe in God themselves but it is a way of earning an easy living, and Freemasonry will give them a leg up? Who knows? It is a very strange and IMHO unhealthy situation.

rodin

04-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Blairs biggest secret is he's a Jew posing as a Catholic

lightgiver

04-11-2009, 11:24 PM

In your opinion GS,is there a British Israelite connection,and whatever your answer could you please explain.:)

Bumped for GS,and why we are at you stated on another thread somewhere(I will look for it) you knew where we were heading?(apart from the death bit);)

Post 75 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88497&page=8

grandsecretary

04-11-2009, 11:42 PM

lightgiver

05-11-2009, 12:44 AM

Yes, I said that we (GLoAE) know where we come from, what we are, and where we are going. We are almost four years along a five year revival plan, and we are making good progress. We all know about death and taxes. :cool:

Did you hear anything,Post 75,

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88497&page=8

Yep death and taxes,the death of the physical body we cannot avoid,taxes we can :cool:

moon monkey

05-11-2009, 10:35 AM

Blairs biggest secret is he's a Jew posing as a Catholic

Rodin

Do you have proof of this?

MM

grandsecretary

05-11-2009, 10:54 AM

Roses are red,
Violets are bluish;
If it wasn't for Jesus,
We'd ALL be Jewish.

I think that this is the basis for his post.

grandsecretary

05-11-2009, 10:56 AM

I have answered it as far as I am able so far. When I receive a response from the Board of Deputies of British Jews this will tell me a great deal.

I have not heard back yet but when I do I will post the result.