Point Of Religious thread Ickes forum?

[primordialman]

I fail to see the point of religious section which is full of athiests and sacreligious and dogmatic neo pagans of all stripes.

As for myself unless more sincere divesity is encouraged in this section fail to see the point ad infinitum.
Most thread and disccusions here lame brain at gutter or teen delinquent level, one only has to see all the swear words used e.g post and threads e.g "jc was ...ker" see how pathetic and uncivil this place insulting to those us whom happen to have faith in one of these four monotheist Religions.
Lift your games some you are nothing but punks let off the chain or out of the cell!.

[1776]

I fail to see the point of religious section which is full of athiests and sacreligious and dogmatic neo pagans of all stripes.

As for myself unless more sincere divesity is encouraged in this section fail to see the point ad infinitum.
Most thread and disccusions here lame brain at gutter or teen delinquent level, one only has to see all the swear words used e.g post and threads e.g "jc was ...ker" see how pathetic and uncivil this place insulting to those us whom happen to have faith in one of these four monotheist Religions.
Lift your games some you are nothing but punks let off the chain or out of the cell!.

To put it bluntly (and mildly), I concur.

Right to the point, and correct, you are.

[nicolaj]

I fail to see the point of religious section which is full of athiests and sacreligious and dogmatic neo pagans of all stripes.

As for myself unless more sincere divesity is encouraged in this section fail to see the point ad infinitum.
Most thread and disccusions here lame brain at gutter or teen delinquent level, one only has to see all the swear words used e.g post and threads e.g "jc was ...ker" see how pathetic and uncivil this place insulting to those us whom happen to have faith in one of these four monotheist Religions.
Lift your games some you are nothing but punks let off the chain or out of the cell!.

It makes me realise how close we are to this one world religion.

[1977]

i agree, the best way to promote diversity on the space lizardmen forum is to close the religion section and jail all atheists and blasphemers

[size_of_light]

Most thread and disccusions here lame brain at gutter or teen delinquent level

The forum tends to attract a helluva lot of clueless juvenile-minded dipshits excited by what they perceive as Icke's permission to go evil nuts-out balls-to-the-wall aggressive on all forms of faith and religion, and once they've spat their venom at their own private strawman god for a while, they tend to get addicted to it, and keep on typing when they probably should just go hang up their keyboards and do something else.

[1977]

see how pathetic and uncivil this place insulting to those us whom happen to have faith in one of these four monotheist Religions. .
btw thanks for including us zoroastrians in your post

i get p incensed when some rapscallion assaults the divine reality of our unconquerable lord mithra

[let it shine]

It makes me realise how close we are to this one world religion.

true :(

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i think it's important to have this forum, no matter how many nay-sayers there are. there are still people looking for truth and what better way to find truth but through God?

it's only going to get worse as time goes on, but we still have a duty to stand up for what we believe in and educate ourselves and each other.

[primordialman]

The forum tends to attract a helluva lot of clueless juvenile-minded dipshits excited by what they perceive as Icke's permission to go evil nuts-out balls-to-the-wall aggressive on all forms of faith and religion, and once they've spat their venom at their own private strawman god for a while, they tend to get addicted to it, and keep on typing when they probably should just go hang up their keyboards and do something else.
Very well put couldnt have expected a better response from a supporter cheers for that!.
You know the funny thing is in Australia not many teens(maybe the odd one or two) I am aware bother to post in conspiracy forums or to my knowledge have any interest in the subject they appear to be under the impression smoking bongs and going to rock/pop, techno trance festivals or any degree of virtual reality escapism is the way bring their revolution.
So I am kind of taken by surprise when i see conspiracy forum where teens are posting i mean in my part of the world it just doesnt seem to happen.

Still doesnt change the fact though what they are posting about is not conspiracy however support for anti religious bashing which sometimes branches into full blown support of esoteric occultism, has made me question the possibility these people are in an occult family network and elders put them up to it, as part their anti social programming.

What do you think, as what they post here seems the same pure crapola year in year out plus they have a very poor level of esoteric understanding is pretty lame even i can see that and I am certainly no esotercist!.

[primordialman]

btw thanks for including us zoroastrians in your post

i get p incensed when some rapscallion assaults the divine reality of our unconquerable lord mithra
I wasnt actually, sorry take you back into
rage, lol the four are:

Christianity(i support a strong personal faith based appraoch which does not strive for social control or hiearchial ecclesia. I prefer a very much reformed theological model, therefore catholics or anglicans dont usually measure up).

Judaism(torah based) Buddhism, Islam. thats the four.

Zoroastrians i would think they are pagans much akin to Gnostics or Taoists you know Black&White, Yin & Yang etc. I really couldnt consider a such religion any more than pagan.:cool:

[seanx]

primordialman wrote:

Still doesnt change the fact though what they are posting about is not conspiracy however support for anti religious bashing

You don't seem to realise that these 'religions' are the core control
structures created and maintained by the NWO - to keep people
in ignorance of their true potentail and power.

To see through the massive illusion of all these 'religions', read icke's
tales of the time loop and Infinite love.

[notthisshitagain]

primordialman wrote:



You don't seem to realise that these 'religions' are the core control
structures created and maintained by the NWO - to keep people
in ignorance of their true potentail and power.

To see through the massive illusion of all these 'religions', read icke's
tales of the time loop and Infinite love.

Yep. And also, when their religion/system of beliefs is attacked, they feel uncomfortable, I'd say...

[tannah]

primordialman wrote:



You don't seem to realise that these 'religions' are the core control
structures created and maintained by the NWO - to keep people
in ignorance of their true potentail and power.

To see through the massive illusion of all these 'religions', read icke's
tales of the time loop and Infinite love.

There isn't a regime here on earth, and throughout history, that could compare to the genocidal murderous system that a God is apparently coming down here to dish out. And when its disciples actually moan that people scrutinize these belief systems of theirs, I can feel little sympathy.

Wanna take up knitting? Fine. One shouldn't criticise that. Collect stamps? Go ahead. Bring a God here so murderous that hell will be bulging like a well endowed stud? Sorry, get used to the backlashes. It doesn't matter whether one tells you it's a load of bollox, or spares the time to be more analytical about it. I've discovered that patiently bringing an analysis is pointless. The robots just brush it off, and go back to their own particular operating system.

[justnotsure]

There isn't a regime here on earth, and throughout history, that could compare to the genocidal murderous system that a God is apparently coming down here to dish out. And when its disciples actually moan that people scrutinize these belief systems of theirs, I can feel little sympathy.

Wanna take up knitting? Fine. One shouldn't criticise that. Collect stamps? Go ahead. Bring a God here so murderous that hell will be bulging like a well endowed stud? Sorry, get used to the backlashes. It doesn't matter whether one tells you it's a load of bollox, or spares the time to be more analytical about it. I've discovered that patiently bringing an analysis is pointless. The robots just brush it off, and go back to their own particular operating system.

I also think that there are many people here who have rejected organised religion, looked around seen the mess the world is in and gone back to it with a fresh understanding. None of us should stand in judgment of anyone else, so for those of you who have rejected an organised religion or belief system I would ask for your understanding of those who have and have gone back and wish to add to and broaden their understanding of "God" and the spiritual realm.

[tannah]

I also think that there are many people here who have rejected organised religion, looked around seen the mess the world is in and gone back to it with a fresh understanding. None of us should stand in judgment of anyone else, so for those of you who have rejected an organised religion or belief system I would ask for your understanding of those who have and have gone back and wish to add to and broaden their understanding of "God" and the spiritual realm.

The only God I can tolerate as worthy of my respect is one that brings Love down here, if that is possible. I reject the poor argument about people being the ones that choose hell, as some future pit where they'll be thrown. Because the wolf has clothed itself and looks like a good shephard, when actually he is a wolf who laughs at your blind devotion while he sucks you dry of real spiritual insight. The "wolf" has tarnished all the worthy insights into Love, played on the minds of the corrupt and acheived a blind version of the true God's Word.

There are many people practicing spiritual discipline. In the east far more than in the west. Yet it looks like hell is predominantly for those of the east, where christianity is not as popular.

I don't reject hell as a kind of rebellion against God. I reject it because it is a vile act, if it were true.

People here who faithfully quote from their own holy books haven't a clue what they're doing really, or what they're quoting.

I don't recall Jesus saying that one should memorize the stuff that's in the bible. I think Spirit can communicate in the here and now, and it's those people who can understand the corrupt nature of God portrayed in these old books.

One simply worships God when they live in peace and look out for eachother.

[1977]

I wasnt actually, sorry take you back into
rage, lol the four are:

Christianity(i support a strong personal faith based appraoch which does not strive for social control or hiearchial ecclesia. I prefer a very much reformed theological model, therefore catholics or anglicans dont usually measure up).

Judaism(torah based) Buddhism, Islam. thats the four.

Zoroastrians i would think they are pagans much akin to Gnostics or Taoists you know Black&White, Yin & Yang etc. I really couldnt consider a such religion any more than pagan.:cool:
Illogical nonsense. Zoroastrianism is the world's oldest monotheistic faith. Many strains of Buddhism do not even recognize a God. Your idea of "diversity" is to make arbitrary and hypocritical judgments about what is and is not "paganism," based upon some vague recollection of what you once read the religion was about?

The "point" of Religion threads is to learn. Those not willing to do so will react violently when confronted with knowledge, retreating into insular groups that fight tooth and nail to preserve their own ignorance.

[clachan]

primordialman wrote:



You don't seem to realise that these 'religions' are the core control
structures created and maintained by the NWO - to keep people
in ignorance of their true potentail and power.

To see through the massive illusion of all these 'religions', read icke's
tales of the time loop and Infinite love.

Yer right,like none of us haven,t read Icke....I wouldn,t be here if i hadn,t.
Maybe we accept some of his ideas and reject others,like he would expect unless we are mindless robots ofcourse.

O,and its governments and their controllers who have the real clout,they are responsible for manipulating religion and use it as a diversion to wage wars playing one off against the other.

Most people of faith are peace loving and abhore violence,all you ever do sean is attack,if you are atypical Ickean "follower"then God help the future of the "truth" movement.

Why dont you accept us Christians and try and find a way to find some common ground ?

Somehow I dont think thats what you really want.

All i ever do when is defend my faith and myself when engaging you,we have never had a friendly word between us......a pity.

[seanx]

Clachan wrote:


Yer right,like none of us haven,t read Icke....I wouldn,t be here if i hadn,t.
Maybe we accept some of his ideas and reject others,like he would expect unless we are mindless robots ofcourse.


O,and its governments and their controllers who have the real clout,they are responsible for manipulating religion and use it as a diversion to wage wars playing one off against the other.

Most people of faith are peace loving and abhore violence,all you ever do sean is attack,if you are atypical Ickean "follower"then God help the future of the "truth" movement.

Why dont you accept us Christians and try and find a way to find some common ground ?

Somehow I dont think thats what you really want.

All i ever do when is defend my faith and myself when engaging you,we have never had a friendly word between us......a pity

You clearly have not read his books and ideas on religion and the nature
of reality.

That'sw hy you never debate them - but fall back on your
ususal christain cliches.

let's make it clear: this is not a question of whether you think tIcke's
ideas are right or wrong.

Why dont you accept us Christians and try and find a way to find some common ground ?

Accept your sick God who wants to send all us
unbelieverers to eternal hell because we won't kiss Jesus's arse!

You're annoyed, mate because we keep exposing the complete nonsesne
of your Elite- created belief system.

[amethyst]

The forum tends to attract a helluva lot of clueless juvenile-minded dipshits excited by what they perceive as Icke's permission to go evil nuts-out balls-to-the-wall aggressive on all forms of faith and religion, and once they've spat their venom at their own private strawman god for a while, they tend to get addicted to it, and keep on typing when they probably should just go hang up their keyboards and do something else.

Ignorance has no age

[primordialman]

You don't seem to realise that these 'religions' are the core control
structures created and maintained by the NWO - to keep people
in ignorance of their true potentail and power.

To see through the massive illusion of all these 'religions', read icke's
tales of the time loop and Infinite love.
Religion has no power or control anymore even a cursory glance of this fora should confirm that!

Yes its true the vatican is trying to control all protestant churches however this only matters if your a christian to begin with and seeing as most of you arent, the jesuit control or vaticans power makes no difference one way or the other to atheists as for pagans it may even have advantages.

As for simply knocking someone because they have personal faith in something whether thats christ or whatever is simply nasty and smacks of control freaks attempting to dictate to others what they should place faith in i find that anti truth and freedom thats exactly what the majority of you are engaging trying to dictate to others here that dont agree with your Aquarian/Socialist Utopia e.g zeitgeist that should tow the line or leave the fora.

Who,s dictating like J Stalin most you whom are rapid atheists and neo pagans more than likely marxists as well
Your wishes are exactly the same as the illuminists i see no difference you are the problem :rolleyes:

[primordialman]

he "point" of Religion threads is to learn. Those not willing to do so will react violently when confronted with knowledge, retreating into insular groups that fight tooth and nail to preserve their own ignorance.
No, point for most of you nitwit anarchists and marxists is bash all forms of traditionalism. You are all little dictators and control freaks like Joe Stalin trying to enforce your anti everything views on the traditionalists!.YOU ARE AGENTS OF NWO :mad:

[seanx]

primordialman wrote;

Religion has no power or control anymore even a cursory glance of this fora should confirm that!

Come on. This is kid's stuff.

their control systems are their belief implants. Why do you think they
always want control of schools and kids?

And why they insist on parents possing the 'faith' down to heir kids.
They are simply installing the same beliefs patterns in them.

And that's where real control lies. People's belief structures.

As for simply knocking someone because they have personal faith in something whether thats christ or whatever is simply nasty and smacks of control freaks attempting to dictate to others what they should place faith in i find that anti truth and freedom thats exactly what the majority of you are engaging trying to dictate to others here that dont agree with your Aquarian/Socialist Utopia e.g zeitgeist that should tow the line or leave the fora.

Who,s dictating like J Stalin most you whom are rapid atheists and neo pagans more than likely marxists as well
Your wishes are exactly the same as the illuminists i see no difference you are the problem


Dribble.

this is a FORUM - what do you expect at a debating forum.

Especially an icke forum ....where he exposes your religion as complete
garbage and fabrication.

That doesn't mean you aren't totally free to practice and believe it ,
but it also means we are totally free to criticize and expose it.

[majorlee]

i agree, the best way to promote diversity on the space lizardmen forum is to close the religion section and jail all atheists and blasphemers

yep burn them

burn them

burn them all :)

all for the greater good hey?

dismiss it or not religion is here and needs discussion from its history to its future, what mistakes it has made and how it can change for the better

[zero1]

Religion is about mind-tricking people into sacrificing their higher powers for worldly power, keeping them in ignorance of their true nature as gods, super-humans, immortals. It is standard conspiracy fodder, thus.

It's when you follow the religious belief systems and you don't get the worldly power that the problem arises. Bitterness and hatred towards the priests and their systems of control always result in destruction.

[rapunzel]

I wasnt actually, sorry take you back into
rage, lol the four are:

Christianity(i support a strong personal faith based appraoch which does not strive for social control or hiearchial ecclesia. I prefer a very much reformed theological model, therefore catholics or anglicans dont usually measure up).

Judaism(torah based) Buddhism, Islam. thats the four.

Zoroastrians i would think they are pagans much akin to Gnostics or Taoists you know Black&White, Yin & Yang etc. I really couldnt consider a such religion any more than pagan.:cool:

You don't consider that Pagans can be religious?

[clachan]

Clachan wrote...


You clearly have not read his books and ideas on religion and the nature
of reality.

That'sw hy you never debate them - but fall back on your
ususal christain cliches.

let's make it clear: this is not a question of whether you think tIcke's
ideas are right or wrong.

Accept your sick God who wants to send all us
unbelieverers to eternal hell because we won't kiss Jesus's arse!

You're annoyed, mate because we keep exposing the complete nonsesne
of your Elite- created belief system.

So what is so difficult to understand about Ickes ideas ?
DI has his own ideas on the nature of reality,I dont share them all....whats your take on the shape shifting lizard Edward Heath ? Is it true ?

No "mate"....Im not in the slightest bit annoyed,you dont effect me at all emotionally.

[primordialman]

Come on. This is kid's stuff.

their control systems are their belief implants. Why do you think they
always want control of schools and kids?

And why they insist on parents possing the 'faith' down to heir kids.
They are simply installing the same beliefs patterns in them.

And that's where real control lies. People's belief structures.
The controls systems as i have mentined several times already in this fora is the economic system. Religion is not the prime mover in society any longer culture and entertainment industries are. If people are mind controlled its their sad faults for not using their will power to resist temptation and conformity there is always a choice, so many lemmings never use this choice!

Especially an icke forum ....where he exposes your religion as complete
garbage and fabrication.
Wow my religion very presumptious of you. Not my religion you would need to approach Pop Benedict or Klovenbach for that one. The only thing that is mine is my faith.


Religion is about mind-tricking people into sacrificing their higher powers for worldly power, keeping them in ignorance of their true nature as gods, super-humans, immortals. It is standard conspiracy fodder, thus.
Indeed Humanism is also a religion, thus your views will apply to all Human based control systems including the venus project.

dismiss it or not religion is here and needs discussion from its history to its future, what mistakes it has made and how it can change for the better
Well discussion is fine however, whats not fine is bashng and insulting people for their personal faith with the exception of Tannah very few posters here whom are not christians, can conduct discussion in manner that isnt lame brain and uncivil!
In other words most of you are still juvenile idealistic jerks which lack life experience, its like speaking to a bunch of stoned hippies/ punks at a rock festival.

A lesson in life you will never progress in lucrative or successful career with such attitudes Managers or Business owners will never stand for it, that speaking from youthful experience "i ve been there done that" where most of you lot are at, unless you intend to bludge all your lives you better find a way to work for yourselfs!.:rolleyes: