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timezone
24-10-2009, 02:22 PM
British Police To Carry Submachine Guns On Routine Street Patrols
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/6407137/Armed-officers-placed-on-routine-foot-patrol-for-first-time.html
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01507/armedPolice_1507659c.jpg
meksar
24-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Dont let the masonic braindead cunts intimidate you, the recent surge in gun crime is of course no coincidence and i know for a fact they doing many nasty tricks which get Sun readers etc thinking we need armed police and the death penalty reinstated. Operation Trident here in London is just a British version of the "Just Say No to Drugs" campaign in America, it is being used to move guns into communities without detection by a few while the many think they are doing their bit to stop gun crime.
snapdragon
24-10-2009, 02:35 PM
I bet it won't be long before some f'ed up Copper goes berserk.
meksar
24-10-2009, 03:48 PM
I bet it won't be long before some f'ed up Copper goes berserk.
I think undercover MI5, Mossad and satanic police officers already have, they get "hooded up" and have a license to kill. Then of course you have MK-Ultra victims sent out to do damage and shooting people in crowded areas and broad daylight. The street gangs themselves have leaders which answer directly to corrupt law enforcement or more organized crime networks and will be protected as long as they pay up with the right people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E1b_s9irUw
ritchs
24-10-2009, 09:31 PM
So instead of getting shot once, 100 bullets instead. Hope there's no edgy coppers when someone reached inside their jacket :)
separ
24-10-2009, 09:43 PM
Why would a police officer want to transfer to CO19 in the first place? I don't think the psychological evaluations are properly carried out, as the long catalogue of 'mistakes' seems to show. You are bound to have a lot of nutters applying for a job like that, and many will be ex-forces personnel. The kind of people who get a little adrenaline rush from swaggering about with guns.
Why are they on 'routine patrol'? I thought they told Boris Johnson is wasn't 'routine' but targeted.
In this country the illusion of policing by consent is disappearing fast.
voynich
24-10-2009, 09:52 PM
There was a programme on the Wright Stuff the other day and they said there had only been 6 policemen killed since 1990 in the UK.
When you think that Obama has now declared a national emergency over the swine flu which has been exageratted and many are specualting it may lead to martial law in America it makes you wonder.
Perhaps they intend to allow all police officers in the UK to be armed shortly after all how are they going to be able to control a very irate public when they find out what the government has been up to.
decim
24-10-2009, 10:00 PM
Open borders http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Every foreign gang in the world operating in the UK http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
liesborn treason implemented allowing shoot to kill policy http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Armed police units (with covert special branch & military attachments disguised as police) deployed. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Next orchestrated, planned, abetted 'terrorist' attack - PENDING.....
rollotomaz1
24-10-2009, 10:03 PM
Open borders http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Every foreign gang in the world operating in the UK http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
liesborn treason implemented allowing shoot to kill policy http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Armed police units (with covert special branch & military attachments disguised as police) deployed. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Next orchestrated, planned, abetted 'terrorist' attack - PENDING.....
This is what is going to happen when the N A U is born, which will soon fill up those FEMA holding camps with plenty of fodder, while the real agenda is taking place, watch this space.
rollotomaz1
24-10-2009, 10:07 PM
Why would a police officer want to transfer to CO19 in the first place? I don't think the psychological evaluations are properly carried out, as the long catalogue of 'mistakes' seems to show. You are bound to have a lot of nutters applying for a job like that, and many will be ex-forces personnel. The kind of people who get a little adrenaline rush from swaggering about with guns.
Why are they on 'routine patrol'? I thought they told Boris Johnson is wasn't 'routine' but targeted.
In this country the illusion of policing by consent is disappearing fast.
Not this one, I had my fill of walking around Northern ireland with a rifle in one hand and my eyes on every corner wondering where the next bullet was going to come from, this is what's happening to most of our guys in Afganistan and Iraq now, I can tell you from experience its not a nice position to be in .
separ
24-10-2009, 10:13 PM
Not this one, I had my fill of walking around Northern ireland with a rifle in one hand and my eyes on every corner wondering where the next bullet was going to come from, this is what's happening to most of our guys in Afganistan and Iraq now, I can tell you from experience its not a nice position to be in .
Oh yes, I agree with that. I'm not suggesting northern Ireland police are Rambo/Mel Gibson wannabes because they're not - they're people obviously working in a dangerous environment where not being armed would be foolish. However northern Ireland is a very different place from London, and CO19 are quite a different kettle of fish. In the Met, being an armed officer is a matter of choice and application - you have to really want to be an armed officer, then you have to go through the recruitment process. Most Met police officers don't want to join the CO19 armed unit. You get the gung-ho minority who think it's the bees' knees though.
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 01:27 AM
Dont let the masonic braindead cunts intimidate you, the recent surge in gun crime is of course no coincidence and i know for a fact they doing many nasty tricks which get Sun readers etc thinking we need armed police and the death penalty reinstated. Operation Trident here in London is just a British version of the "Just Say No to Drugs" campaign in America, it is being used to move guns into communities without detection by a few while the many think they are doing their bit to stop gun crime.
Any proof of this ?? and what makes all officers satanic and masons ?
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 01:28 AM
Also this is not new news, police have been doing routine armed patrols in british cities for years, in the 90s it was mainly brixton and notting hill. Every few years its a different inner city or estate and now it will be tottenham.
meksar
25-10-2009, 07:44 AM
Any proof of this ?? and what makes all officers satanic and masons ?
No one said all police officer are masons but we know 1 in 6 are and many attend Common Purpose courses. The Headquarters for the metropolitan police is Scotland Yard(Scottish Rite Freemasonry) and it has the revolving Pyramid sign, also some police squads have their own mini lodges . Look at how many murders have involved celebrities and their friends and families and try and tell a sane person all of this is a coincidence or a accident. Its Ordo Ab Chao and it means if the chaos does not come about then they are going to create the chaos to justify the changes in society which further the totalitarian police state.
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 11:26 AM
No one said all police officer are masons but we know 1 in 6 are and many attend Common Purpose courses. The Headquarters for the metropolitan police is Scotland Yard(Scottish Rite Freemasonry) and it has the revolving Pyramid sign, also some police squads have their own mini lodges . Look at how many murders have involved celebrities and their friends and families and try and tell a sane person all of this is a coincidence or a accident. Its Ordo Ab Chao and it means if the chaos does not come about then they are going to create the chaos to justify the changes in society which further the totalitarian police state.
Yes true but what about the other 5 out of six who aren't masons. I don't believe that most police officers are aware of the agenda, its a pyramid structure, if they do play a direct role in one of the conspiracies its probably without them knowing it, they are usually the "solution". I just feel this forum can place massive generalisations on certain groups of people, that aren't completely representative and unfair.
With operation trident, again, i believe if anyone is shipping in the guns and drugs, they would be MI5 affiliated, they would have higher clearence, personally i think on the face of it, operation trident is the best thing the met have ever done, as before too many people, including detectives where ignoring black on black gun deaths.
Back on the topic of freemasons and police links/ justice i will post a topic.
remember quite a few policemen who obviously weren't freemasons where killed, by freemasosn, most notably john fordham, and little justice prevailed out of that. The police force is defiently like most institutions, where if you are a freemasos you will find yourself in a high position of power, perhaps there are some extreme exceptions, but thats usually the game.
dantesinferno
25-10-2009, 11:49 AM
there is a drug war going on in Tottenham at the moment so its partly a response to that,
also each area in most inner city's have an armed response unit's that drive around fully loaded with weapons, so the only real difference is that they are getting out of the cars and becoming visible.
wakeup2nwo
25-10-2009, 12:02 PM
Also this is not new news, police have been doing routine armed patrols in british cities for years, in the 90s it was mainly brixton and notting hill. Every few years its a different inner city or estate and now it will be tottenham.
it will start in tottenham but we will see armed officers all over england... well thats what i understood when reading it...
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 12:06 PM
Oh yes, I agree with that. I'm not suggesting northern Ireland police are Rambo/Mel Gibson wannabes because they're not - they're people obviously working in a dangerous environment where not being armed would be foolish. However northern Ireland is a very different place from London, and CO19 are quite a different kettle of fish. In the Met, being an armed officer is a matter of choice and application - you have to really want to be an armed officer, then you have to go through the recruitment process. Most Met police officers don't want to join the CO19 armed unit. You get the gung-ho minority who think it's the bees' knees though.
I often questionned the reason for CO19 officers from joining.However i think there are plenty of other jobs or roles that would seem more advertising for those gun ho types. I mean You are armed with a G3 or Mp5 sub machine gun and a glock handgun, the primary weapon, would usually be modified so it only fires a semi automatic, and usually the clip is halved, so basically you are just having a handgun, the training usually doesn't allow you to use tactics such as covering fire, and most of the military types i know say that the reasons why they wouldn't join armed police or police in general, beacuse they feel its too restricted.
I think the majority of CO19 officers are left brain thinkers too the max, and some will be yellow arse material (ex squaddies who consider themselves as Pseudo SAS) i do partly feel sorry for them, because without a doubt they have to everyday deal with incidents that potentially are life threatening, and their decisions they have to make in a few seconds, will be judged for a life time by arm chair critics, i mean a Co19 cop got killed earlier this year, yet it recieved little media attention.
Regardless of people's views on armed police, they are a necessary evil in big cities like london , where there is high ammounts of gun crime, yes it may be the government they are working for who supplies the guns and drugs in black ops, but then again they just see themselves as the solution, and not aware who really is causing the problems at the top.
As for people's concerns saying one day a fucked up copper is going to shoot everyone, to be honest, this isn't making a big difference, the only difference is that they will be doing walking patrols and not driving patrols throuogh these areas, unless for some reason being in a car some how has some psychological effect on them that prevents them from going postal on the public, then i can't see a difference. I think this article though, and others about the same news story, are designed to cause fear.
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 12:08 PM
it will start in tottenham but we will see armed officers all over england... well thats what i understood when reading it...
Yeah well if the shit is hitting the fan then it will be, its like david icke says, they boil the frog slowly, until its too late.
Then again like i said, this isn't new news, they where doing foot patrols around these areas, since the 90s, they stopped in the last few years and will be going back to doing them, and there have been armed patrols in other inner cities around the country, however they are usually in response to a spate of shootings.
And yes the purpose of this article is designed to cause fear, in all many different ways, don't give into it.
marpat
25-10-2009, 12:08 PM
I think undercover MI5, Mossad and satanic police officers already have, they get "hooded up" and have a license to kill. Then of course you have MK-Ultra victims sent out to do damage and shooting people in crowded areas and broad daylight. The street gangs themselves have leaders which answer directly to corrupt law enforcement or more organized crime networks and will be protected as long as they pay up with the right people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E1b_s9irUw
You truly talk some rabid bullshit. Do you really believe some of the things you say?
cruise4
25-10-2009, 01:31 PM
The officers eventually start shooting their bosses victims, so it's up the ante in the weapons stakes. This leads to more and more deaths and the idiot public call for more armed security, which eventually leads to more and more 'innocent lives' lost, awwww.
It's all very predictable. The police are the biggest street gang, protecting their scum masters.
rydeon
25-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Open borders http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Every foreign gang in the world operating in the UK http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
liesborn treason implemented allowing shoot to kill policy http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Armed police units (with covert special branch & military attachments disguised as police) deployed. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Green_tick_pointed.svg/100px-Green_tick_pointed.svg.png
Next orchestrated, planned, abetted 'terrorist' attack - PENDING.....
And laws/prohibitions pretty much preventing the responsible British public from carrying their own firearms!
The UK sucks, last person out, please turn off the lights...
icarus
25-10-2009, 01:41 PM
Police officers routinely get approached when they start to climb the ladder. They do not have to disclose that they are members of a secret society with pledges of allegiance that are well know to supercede all other pledges they may make, for instance the one they make to protect the public.
A machine gun is the worst weapon to take onto the streets, because even in the hands of the best marksman, the rate of fire means the likelihood of shooting innocents is much higher. A shotgun or pistol makes much more sense.
This is crimnal negligence disguised as policing. It's all about a show of force, not to armed gangs, but to the public.
The powers behind the police are letting us all know what they've got, just as they did when they surrounded Heathrow with tanks to ward of supposed terrorists. As we know, terrorists rarely hang around long enough after their attacks to take on tanks.
We're going to see more of this naked state aggression in the future as a warning to us that they have the power.
decim
25-10-2009, 02:05 PM
1 in 6 a non masonry mason?
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marpat
25-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Police officers routinely get approached when they start to climb the ladder. They do not have to disclose that they are members of a secret society with pledges of allegiance that are well know to supercede all other pledges they may make, for instance the one they make to protect the public.
A machine gun is the worst weapon to take onto the streets, because even in the hands of the best marksman, the rate of fire means the likelihood of shooting innocents is much higher. A shotgun or pistol makes much more sense.
This is crimnal negligence disguised as policing. It's all about a show of force, not to armed gangs, but to the public.
The powers behind the police are letting us all know what they've got, just as they did when they surrounded Heathrow with tanks to ward of supposed terrorists. As we know, terrorists rarely hang around long enough after their attacks to take on tanks.
We're going to see more of this naked state aggression in the future as a warning to us that they have the power.
Again this post shows how truly ignorant people are. The UK police use semi automatic weapons meaning that they fire one shot at a time. This increases accuracy. There are very important reasons why this is the case which cannot be discussed here but to make a claim that there will be increased death rate by using machine guns is completely false and misleading. On top of the stupid post you mention a shotgun would make more sense. How the fuck would that be when it spreads it shot out over a wide area? a pistol as well? pistols are far less accurate than something like an MP5 or G36, especially the semi automatic version the police use.
Fucking truly stupid and inaccurate post
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 02:59 PM
The officers eventually start shooting their bosses victims, so it's up the ante in the weapons stakes. This leads to more and more deaths and the idiot public call for more armed security, which eventually leads to more and more 'innocent lives' lost, awwww.
It's all very predictable. The police are the biggest street gang, protecting their scum masters.
Depends if their bosses victims are shooting at them or are shooting at other people. Everyone has a degree of responsbility, although some armed robber may be the product of structural failings whatever, if he is kililng and harming people in anyway he has to take the punishment. As for them protecting their scum masters, i don't see the police down tottenham or most town centres friday nights, protecting their scum masters
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Police officers routinely get approached when they start to climb the ladder. They do not have to disclose that they are members of a secret society with pledges of allegiance that are well know to supercede all other pledges they may make, for instance the one they make to protect the public.
A machine gun is the worst weapon to take onto the streets, because even in the hands of the best marksman, the rate of fire means the likelihood of shooting innocents is much higher. A shotgun or pistol makes much more sense.
This is crimnal negligence disguised as policing. It's all about a show of force, not to armed gangs, but to the public.
The powers behind the police are letting us all know what they've got, just as they did when they surrounded Heathrow with tanks to ward of supposed terrorists. As we know, terrorists rarely hang around long enough after their attacks to take on tanks.
We're going to see more of this naked state aggression in the future as a warning to us that they have the power.
Yes they do get approached when they climb up the ladder so to speak, the copper i know isn't a mason, but has known of police masons in the past, and i believe one time they tried to get him to join, but he was never curious to join, however from what i hear there apparently is less freemasons that there used to be in the police force, i don't know if this is to do with the falling numbers in recent years ??
But yes back to your second point, it was an ill informed point, the sub machine guns CO19 use are semi automatic and usually contain half a clip, so around fifteen rounds, that pretty much makes it a more accurate pistol. And with around thousands of thousands of call outs for armed police in this city, and very few resulting in shots being fired, they must be doing something right. Most of the bullets are specially designed so they stop once they make impact, so in a hostage situation there is less chance of bullets coming out of the other side and hitting innocents.
Also if anyone was to suggest shotguns to be routinely carried around, i would then be worried, as they burst little pieces of shrapnel everywhere, and that truly would be chaos.
Of course this could be expanded publically and be very threatening, you are forgetting that this has been going on for years and is focused around these certain areas, you would be shocked to relalise how prelevent gun crime is, not so much real guns, but the kids have to have something that looks like a strap on the streets, or anything, so you often get young people walking around with imitation firearms, that are impossible to spot the difference between real firearms.
cpfc12
25-10-2009, 03:06 PM
1 in 6 a non masonry mason?
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1 out of six in the police force are freemasons, so that makes five out of six, not freemasons.
Apparently though with the reduction in freemasons, there are less in the police now.
babbi
25-10-2009, 05:29 PM
Police with guns on Kensington High Street this afternoon
decim
25-10-2009, 05:46 PM
1 in 6 a non masonry mason?
ONE at the top is enough to control the 5 below, you know like a pyramid.
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1 out of six in the police force are freemasons, so that makes five out of six, not freemasons.
Apparently though with the reduction in freemasons, there are less in the police now.
rollotomaz1
25-10-2009, 08:44 PM
there is a drug war going on in Tottenham at the moment so its partly a response to that,
also each area in most inner city's have an armed response unit's that drive around fully loaded with weapons, so the only real difference is that they are getting out of the cars and becoming visible.
I wouldn't put it past a few police to protect the drug dealers for the spoils of war.
cruise4
25-10-2009, 09:04 PM
Depends if their bosses victims are shooting at them or are shooting at other people. Everyone has a degree of responsbility, although some armed robber may be the product of structural failings whatever, if he is kililng and harming people in anyway he has to take the punishment. As for them protecting their scum masters, i don't see the police down tottenham or most town centres friday nights, protecting their scum masters
Totally circuitous argument.
If the police weren't following the orders of psychopaths, the psychopaths would be long gone and the structural failings wouldn't be there. You see them down Tottenham dealing with victims of state level abuse, same as in town centres. All the police involvement does is ensure the situation gets worse because they WILL NOT deal with the real criminals who laugh at their clowns and plan their next poisoning campaign against mankind to produce ever more crime. Then they can recruit more and more fancy dress idiots to protect them even more. They only get away with any of this crap because when I say screw you to Council Tax these plod dullards act as mob enforcers for the fraudsters.
entrangermercenary
25-10-2009, 09:11 PM
I wouldn't put it past a few police to protect the drug dealers for the spoils of war.
I would love to comment on this, but you have it in a nutshell :)
cruise4
25-10-2009, 09:19 PM
The New World Order uses 'teamwork' as a virtue, but when they speak of this they are using double-speak, because real teamwork does not eliminate the individual, in fact, real teamwork depends upon the individuality of each person to make the most of every effort toward a common goal. While the New World Order version of "teamwork" only allows for bodies to be pledged without mind or judgment, to blindly carry out their faceless orders from above.
This is being used very effectively in everything from military and business practices to social engineering: and now of course it's being introduced to ever-younger groups of civilians in child-armies, (the boy and girl scouts among others) to spy upon the adult world and to give the controllers absolute control over the population to this ancient and thoroughly criminal-enterprise that is rolling over this nation and the world today. Here again their promise of 'one-world-unity' will bring us the exactly opposite result: Because that result of this can only end in DISSOLUTION, unless we begin to act to stop it.
"TEAM" was and is part of the self-censorship key that is being used to lockdown societies and to destroy resistance to their methods and their edicts, even before such a resistance can be formulated. One of their most effective weapons in this unnoticed battle for the hearts and minds of those of us that will be conquered, unless we awaken to this threat, has always been the use of money to maintain the kind of 'silence that we see everywhere today. This often distant yet ever-tempting shadow of "money" keeps people quiet in the face of almost everything that we have done to ourselves and to the world. But the unseen aspect in all is that when the 'SELF' is finally absorbed into the herd-mind: Then society itself becomes the one true victim.
http://www.rense.com/general88/known.htm
'Dishonest' Blair and Straw accused over secret plan for multicultural UK
(And the rest of them Tories/Libs are just as bad)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222769/Dishonest-Blair-Straw-accused-secret-plan-multicultural-UK.html#ixzz0UytPVLnC
Who sets the stage for Economic Disparity? Who ensures alcohol is widely available and widely promoted? Criminal scum governments and their idiot supporters. There's more meaningful investigations happening on this forum than by 'Police'. Country given away on the whims of a handful and the response? Diddly squat, by both Police and Army. The birth certificate scam, the registration scam... it's all a scam and that's what these fools protect!
cpfc12
26-10-2009, 12:43 AM
Depends if their bosses victims are shooting at them or are shooting at other people. Everyone has a degree of responsbility, although some armed robber may be the product of structural failings whatever, if he is kililng and harming people in anyway he has to take the punishment. As for them protecting their scum masters, i don't see the police down tottenham or most town centres friday nights, protecting their scum masters
Totally circuitous argument.
If the police weren't following the orders of psychopaths, the psychopaths would be long gone and the structural failings wouldn't be there. You see them down Tottenham dealing with victims of state level abuse, same as in town centres. All the police involvement does is ensure the situation gets worse because they WILL NOT deal with the real criminals who laugh at their clowns and plan their next poisoning campaign against mankind to produce ever more crime. Then they can recruit more and more fancy dress idiots to protect them even more. They only get away with any of this crap because when I say screw you to Council Tax these plod dullards act as mob enforcers for the fraudsters.
But who do you determine as being a "real" criminal ?? Should a gangster be spared from arrest, simply because the people at the top are crooked mass murderers. Surely regardless of who is putting the guns in communities and causing all this gang violence at the top, the police still have the responsbility of nicking those who break the law (espescially common law).
You say the psychopaths won't be in control if the police weren't protecting them, but cmon the ptb are all in different forms, its not as if you kill tony blair or george bush, that all evil will be gone in the world. It's never as simple as the state vs the people, as the people work for the state, around 40% of the work force in this country, are in government, from police, teachers etc, and yes all these people pay tax and usually are treated the worse. I mean lets face it, when the ptb want something to happen, they will make sure the majority of the public are on their side. If the police where the lone guardians of the elite , do you really think they would allow editorial controls to slate the police ona regular basis in the papers, or say promote games like grand theft auto that encourage violence against cops hmmm...
Again regardless of who is in control, everyone has choice and responsbility, and it takes the piss out all the people who come from shit backgrounds who do well in life and don't fall down the path of violence.
cruise4
27-10-2009, 07:28 PM
Labour think-tank 'airbrushed link between migrants and crime in immigration report for Blair'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223296/Labour-think-tank-airbrushed-link-migrants-crime-immigration-report-Blair.html
The REAL cause of crime and just about EVERY ill faced by everyone derives from Government.
cpfc12
27-10-2009, 07:41 PM
Labour think-tank 'airbrushed link between migrants and crime in immigration report for Blair'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223296/Labour-think-tank-airbrushed-link-migrants-crime-immigration-report-Blair.html
The REAL cause of crime and just about EVERY ill faced by everyone derives from Government.
Yes but as i said before people have to take responsbility, otherwise it mocks though who come from shit backgrounds yet do well, and is taking away people's freedom of choice. Yes drugs may come in from big organised crime gangs that have links to government, but whose choice is it to push them ? or shoot and rob other people for them. Same can be said for drink, if you look at most town centres at night.
There has to be some moderation here, structural failings are primary causes, but i will say again people can't use it as an excuse.
cpfc12
27-10-2009, 07:42 PM
But true point this certain individuals in governemt should be held accountable for war crimes.
cruise4
27-10-2009, 08:00 PM
people can't use it as an excuse.
Most don't. Most are totally unaware of what's really happening. They are disempowered and can no longer see a choice. The country has been turned into cesspit by stealth, and the results are an awful lot of extremely unhappy people clutching at anything to dull the pain. The so called conspiracy theory starts a recovery process from this imposed madness.
Regardless of who is in control, everyone has choice and responsbility, and it takes the piss out all the people who come from shit backgrounds who do well in life and don't fall down the path of violence.
Hitler 'did well' under so called national Socialism. Stalin did well under the tyrannical dictatorship re-labelled as Communism. The only reason you and others haven't fallen down the path of violence is your conditions haven't reached the point where you do. 7 days with no food would probably do it.
The politics of scarcity are false and allow the few to control the many. This ludicrous situation cannot be allowed to continue. A journey starts with a single step.
meksar
27-10-2009, 08:21 PM
The fundamental problem is the drug laws which create a violent black market and other crime surrounding addiction. If this was abolished and less harmful substances were legalized and addicts to cocaine, heroin etc should be given more effective treatment crime would dramatically drop. The N.W.O always had their police state in the works and now i think we have already a situation where officers can get away with murder.
mrerisian
27-10-2009, 09:58 PM
The fundamental problem is the drug laws which create a violent black market and other crime surrounding addiction.
100% agree. Legalise them all and then let the Police spend time weeding out people who are violent to their fellow human beings. Anyone with violent tendencies - give em 10 years in jail. Watch those crime figures drop!
Much joviality at the "1 in 6 officers are masons" claim.
It'll be a lot more than that I can tell you. Besides weather they know it or not they're all skelping around adorned with masonic symbolism. Police IS the masons.
Gangsters.
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'The Long Arm Of The Masons'