Whats the story mate?

[horus21]

Tell me why you are here. What i mean is, which way is it benifiting you?
You think its gona change anything, or u just wana learn more? U know what i mean.

I came here for fun, but I know my stuff too.
Its all to often there is nothing of real substance being talked about in this forum at any time so I feel you should just express yourself essay style points supporting the quote, things are invisibley fucked up.

Life is wonderful, if you find your medium, but keeping it is another skill yet to hone for the experienced early initiate. We are what we are, some people are scum, some are good, and some need to be killed.

And nothing really matters For people its EVIDENT with small comparison to issues discussed in the media, emphessis high on a irrelivent use less topic, as compared to the atrocities being committed by the alliance they are indefinatley tied to with what seems to be no real shame at all.

This is a big problem, motherfucka.

[Anders Lindman]

Killing the 'bad' people is an eye for an eye tactics and as someone said will leave everybody blind. Killing somebody is bad. Killing a bad person is bad. By killing a bad person I am myself bad. Bad dog, baaad dog! Actually, it's the human psychological shadow in action.

[horus21]

Surely. But there are exceptions.

[Anders Lindman]

Surely. But there are exceptions.

I'm not sure about this, but immediate defense might be such an exception. For example, if agents would try to take Alex Jones to a FEMA camp he would probably shoot them. :D I have not so much problem with that. But you wouldn't find Alex Jones going out with a gun and try to assassinate an Illuminati member.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations horus21:

For myself, the exception are those that defile and/or murder children.
Deliver their souls for judgement, for they have themselves, revoked any claim to be a part of society.

The children MUST be protected from the predators.

Respectfully Submitted: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[Anders Lindman]

I if Ron Paul wins the presidential election 2008 he would likely allow California for example to have death penalty. That's ok. But I still think the death penalty is Satanic behavior. ::shudder::

[Anders Lindman]

Tell me why you are here. What i mean is, which way is it benifiting you?


I am learning a lot about conspiracy theories. For example, the money out of thin air scam. Now even Ron Paul is saying the same thing! So it's actually not a conspiracy 'theory'.

[davidbarstis]

Greetings & Salutations horus21:

For myself, the exception are those that defile and/or murder children.
Deliver their souls for judgement, for they have themselves, revoked any claim to be a part of society.

The children MUST be protected from the predators.

Respectfully Submitted: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Hmmmm, that would be everyone. You think that only by molesting kids are they victims. Feeding children fast food or driving 100 down the highway with them and supporting wars where they are killed by the millions are not victimizing them. The worst part of sexual molestation is the mental aspect of it. They go through mental abuse in almost every aspect of their lives like what they see on TV. So, stop spewing out what the media wants you to believe and THINK about it. You want to murder yourself? You and everyone else is in that catagory.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/deathsentence.jpg

[joss classey]

symbols can never represent 'what they mean'

[yeiayel]

http://cecio.krur.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/vaffanculo_guerra_atomica_dito.jpg

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations, Mr. Barstis:

It is a matter of discernment. Of course I consider the points you made, and they are valid. Indeed both Britain and the USA, by deploying Uranium Munitions are causing grievous harm to children, even when they are in the womb. We all do deserve the 'Death Penalty'. I did carelessly leave out the 'Qualifier': Sexual. As to defilement. My parameters, asto this punishment, are very restricted: Sexual Defilement and/or Murder of Children. Full Stop.

I 'ran this issue around the block', in another thread. Consider: a child, near and dear to you, is abducted. The Predator came through the childs bedroom window and took the child from its bed.
The Predator than sexually defiles this child and ultimately burries the child while the child is still alive. Ensuing investigation reveals exact identity of the Predator. The forensic evidence is conclusive asto the Predator charged, is the actual culprit. The Predator even admits to this crime.

I feel prison is far too good. The Predator will either prey upon weaker prisoners, or be preyed upon by stronger Predators, or both.

My opinion is: Predators of children are not worth the expense of food and other upkeep. I, at my own expense, would take the Predator to the Swamp and throw the Predator into the midst of Alligators and Crocodiles.
Televising this to the rest of the society, posting a clear message: Sexually defile and/or murder a child, this is what happens to you.

I honestly believe this course of action will reduce considerably the amount of such incidents.

It's all good! Society is rid of its most base, most vulgar entity. Yahsuah Messiah, Himself, has put out the 'Word', the Predator should take his own life before commiting such a crime. These ARE crimes without foregivness.

I am a Man. There are times a man, or men, must take harsh action, to preserve the quality of life of their society. Even amidst the Base and Vulgar culture of the United States of America, The murderous, sexual Predator of Children cannot be tolerated.

What say you?

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[Anders Lindman]

My opinion is: Predators of children are not worth the expense of food and other upkeep. I, at my own expense, would take the Predator to the Swamp and throw the Predator into the midst of Alligators and Crocodiles.
Televising this to the rest of the society, posting a clear message: Sexually defile and/or murder a child, this is what happens to you.

I honestly believe this course of action will reduce considerably the amount of such incidents.


What if the opposite true? That other predators would watch it on television and become even more inclined to continue with their monstrous crimes. And they may even want the publicity! Remember, we are dealing with real sickos here.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations!, Mr. Lindman:

'What If' Frogs had wings?, they wouldn't bump their bonny little green asses on the ground!

'What If' the world was flat?, all the chinese would fall off!

Considering the advent of better and more pervasive security measures, the awareness of the public heightened as to their methods, the Predators own 'Reptilian' instinct of survival, would probably focus more on the 18 and over set. So watch out!

My solution provides a Zero Recidivism Rate. What is happening anyway is their flesh and bone body is converted to Alligator or Crocodile poop. Their Soul(for those of us who believe this) will be liberated.

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[Anders Lindman]

My solution provides a Zero Recidivism Rate. What is happening anyway is their flesh and bone body is converted to Alligator or Crocodile poop. Their Soul(for those of us who believe this) will be liberated.


If that was true, then hideous crimes would have been eradicated a long time ago. Societies have punished criminals that way for thousands of years.

The reason why such methods don't work is that they don't eradicate the root of the problem. They are only blind reactions to a symptom not properly understood.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations!, Mr. Lindman:

I disagree. It is understood that as long as mankind embraces the Carnal(base vulgar predator) Mind over the Higher(shepard, benevolent)Mind, these crimes will continue. The Book of Yahweh thread in the Religion Department addresses these issues enpointe.

Look at the numerical statistics: Apalling! I think the example you provide, the Hardcore, Most Depraved and Indifferent to Known Consequences, would be about 1% of the Predators currently active. I think most are sniveling cowards, masquerading behind a veneer of respectability. I would like to think they would 'shit their panties', and reconsider molesting little boys or girls. Colour me a 'Cock Eyed' optimist!.

Mr. Lindman this is the most abhorrent of subjects, yet needs to be addressed( see Book of Yahweh Thread, in Religion Department). A reduction of the Numerical Rate of these most heinous of crimes must be sought.

What is your solution?

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[william_mac]

I came here for fun. I think people on these threads are overly paranoid and rather strange. But, I also think it's fun to piss them off. I don't really come to the forums for information, although some news stories I hadn't heard of surface. Either way, I like to randomly debate about an hour out of my day, so it's all shits and giggles for me.

As far as the death thing is concerned, HELL YEAH. Some people need to be killed, you better believe it, and I'd love to be the one to kill 'em. As far as the death penalty is concerned, I definetely support that as well. I don't understand how people could possibly consider offing someone who is a murderer a bad thing. I mean... what the fuck?

If you kill somebody, then you deserve to die. Punishment should be proportionate to the crime. If you kill someone, then you shouldn't be able to sit around getting your belly filled up three times a day by the tax payer's money in a nice bed where you can trade lint for cigarettes. I mean... that is absolutely disgusting to me.

Kill the motherfucker. Hell, they get a better death usually than the people they kill. It makes no sense whatsoever not to kill a man or woman who murders someone else in cold blood. And I think that people don't quite understand that the death penalty isn't just thrown out there for anybody who kills another person. The death penalty is more or less reserved for cold blooded killings that were done just for the sake of killing, or for child murders, or other such atrocities aside from killing because of silence or money or greed.

If someone is proven to not be insane, and of sound mind, and they killed people for no reason in hell other than to watch them die, then they themselves deserve to die infront of the whole of a country, and the scrutinization of the media. You better believe it.



-William

[Anders Lindman]

What is your solution?


My solution is to find out the root cause of hideous crimes. I'm surprised that the modern experts have not found the real cause. Maybe the experts are themselves a part of the power pyramid which is run by psychopaths? :eek:

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations!, William_Mac:

I just had a 'thought', as you, inquisitive by nature, an 'Investigator', might be compelled to interview some prisoners currently incarcerated for the crimes of : Sexual Defilement and/or Murder of Children (18 and younger).

Inform them of the penalty I proposed in above post. Then inquire of them, if they knew that would be the penalty, if they were caught,'Would they still do that type of crime?'.

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[Anders Lindman]

My solution is to find out the root cause of hideous crimes. I'm surprised that the modern experts have not found the real cause. Maybe the experts are themselves a part of the power pyramid which is run by psychopaths? :eek:

Here is a paranoid idea, but maybe the experts cannot be trusted.

Then we must find understanding ourselves. One theory is that hideous crimes comes for the need to feel a sense of power. It has been shown that in mammals who do not have power, chemical reactions cause disease, destruction of internal organs, including parts of the brain and severe states of depression. Some individuals who cannot get their sense of power in ordinary society can then resort to other means, and in extreme cases to child molesting and murder. That gives these individuals a sense of power caused by chemical and hormonal reactions; just like a heroin addict desperately needing a fix.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Aloha! Mr. Lindman:

Consider: The failure is the belief of 'Power'. Could also be stated: "sense of 'Perceived' Power".

First Positive Commandment of the Torah: 1: Believe in Yahweh as the Only Source of Power in the Universe. (Exodus 20:2).

The intent of the Torah is to instill a robust moral character in Humanbeings, so that they may inherit and colonize the Universe. Had these Lads & Lasses received the proper instruction and training and paradigms, 99% of them would be wonderful, caring, loving people.

Regrettably; it is the aftermath of their errant behaviour we are confronted with as a society.

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[Anders Lindman]

The intent of the Torah is to instill a robust moral character

Hola snoopsnuffleopagus!

I haven't read much in the Torah. Only some of the Old Testament. Is that the same as the Torah? My favorite scripture is the New Testament.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Greetings & Salutations Mr. Lindman:

The Torah,Codex of Law, 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes is the common thread which runs from Genesis to Revelation. Read all about it in the Book of Yahweh thread. It's all part of a Plan.

Respectfully: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[kblood]

If someone does criminal acts, and I find myself nearby, I will probably do something about it, if it is something that might put others in danger. Sometimes I do so for the sake of the "criminal to be" alone. Usually those who get robbed or stolen from are insured in some way, or they will probably be able to replace what they loose in some way, but the one doing it is probably better off if he or she is helped to a better life than one leeching of others.

Sometimes I have managed to make it better for these offenders, and probably those they endanger, and sometimes I fear I might just have made it worse by trying to help. Everytime I guess it is a bit of a gamble to do what the police is actually meant to do. On the other hand, I do not believe in our prison system much. Most people going through it, ends up with criminal contacts in jail, addiction to drugs and maybe debts from prison that leads to the person becomming a slave of crime lords.

Yea, that might all be worst case scenarios, but I do believe in making these people believe that they can become a better person, is alot more helpfull and beneficial for the society. That said, I do not really mind killing them if nothing else seems to help. I do agree that some people are simply to good for prison. I have tried stopping drug dealers from dealing drugs. Maybe it has helped a bit, but there simply seems to be others taking their place instead. That is how the market seems to be for drugs, just like it is for all other kinds of markets. Where there are consumers willing to pay, there will be suppliers as well.

I am using this forum, not to change the world, but to learn about it. Learn what others have experienced, and to exchange ideas, experiences and knowledge. So far I have probably learned alot here, and I am trying to help add to it all by writing about my own experiences.

Also I try to find new friends here :) So hard to meet people and find out what kind of paranormal things they have experienced in their life. Seems to me that most people have experienced alot of things, but their memory of it is often foggy. Usually takes something to bring the memory back.

[cruise4]

All is lessons. To have maximal meaning there must be maximal Light and maximal Dark. We are information gathering probes from God, who desires maximal infinite possibility... its a feedback loop system.

Cassiopian inspired but this sounds like a reasonable hypothesis to me.

The forum activity is networking. Sum of the whole is multiplied sort of thing.

[dondaz]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/deathsentence.jpg


Doublespeak bollocks! (good pic though);)

No Killing!

[phoebe]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/deathsentence.jpg

That needs repeating :)

[auron]

Funny pic. :)

[joss classey]

killing can never be justified
for those who suggest
in a frame of mind that not be right
if heart is pure and fear be gone
then knowing comes that killing
is a part. but not mine do i choose

[thetonic]

I came here for fun. I think people on these threads are overly paranoid and rather strange. But, I also think it's fun to piss them off. I don't really come to the forums for information, although some news stories I hadn't heard of surface. Either way, I like to randomly debate about an hour out of my day, so it's all shits and giggles for me.

As far as the death thing is concerned, HELL YEAH. Some people need to be killed, you better believe it, and I'd love to be the one to kill 'em. As far as the death penalty is concerned, I definetely support that as well. I don't understand how people could possibly consider offing someone who is a murderer a bad thing. I mean... what the fuck?

If you kill somebody, then you deserve to die. Punishment should be proportionate to the crime. If you kill someone, then you shouldn't be able to sit around getting your belly filled up three times a day by the tax payer's money in a nice bed where you can trade lint for cigarettes. I mean... that is absolutely disgusting to me.

Kill the motherfucker. Hell, they get a better death usually than the people they kill. It makes no sense whatsoever not to kill a man or woman who murders someone else in cold blood. And I think that people don't quite understand that the death penalty isn't just thrown out there for anybody who kills another person. The death penalty is more or less reserved for cold blooded killings that were done just for the sake of killing, or for child murders, or other such atrocities aside from killing because of silence or money or greed.

If someone is proven to not be insane, and of sound mind, and they killed people for no reason in hell other than to watch them die, then they themselves deserve to die infront of the whole of a country, and the scrutinization of the media. You better believe it.



-William

Big problem here william .. The Justice system is corruptable, therefore, how do you know you are even killing the right person.. Could have been wrongly accused or blamed for murder, then you kill them (an innocent) and you are just as bad as the person you claim to be curing the rest of us of...