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k_elli
22-10-2009, 01:22 AM
Hi. I have a question regarding a fairly disturbing episode in my life, and I am hoping that somebody here may have some ideas about how to prevent something like this occurring in the future.

First of all to give some background information-- I have been interested in paranormal things all my life. My mother is an extremely intuitive and fairly "psychic" sort of person so I have always been exposed to this kind of stuff on some level. About the time I was 17, I started having spontaneous OBEs and my lucid dreaming got more and more intense. Over the past few years (am 21 now) I've dabbled in metaphysical books and things, and this past January I started getting deep into the "conspiracy" movement. Because it was so new to me I would spend hours finding information online, digesting it, discussing it with my mom, etc. I'm sure you guys understand completely! :)

ANYWAY. So about mid summer, something very unsettling and unprecedented happened to me. All my life I've done this thing when I'm dozing off to sleep-- sometimes I see through my eyelids. I do this also when I halfway wake up in the middle of the night , or when it's early morning and I need to know what time it is, I can look at the clock without fully waking up and opening my eyes.

So this one particular time a few months ago, I spent the entire night in a very aware, anxious state-- just dozing off and seeing through my eyelids the whole night. The only thing I can compare this to is being very sick with a fever and drugged up on Nyquil. That's sort of how it felt, except I kept "hearing" MYSELF telling me to be careful. There was something I couldn't see in the corner of my room, I felt it, I heard myself warning me about it, and it was just a very very sinister presence.

The next day was the worst part. I spent the entire day feeling extraordinarily hungover. But this was worse than any hangover, far worse than being sleep deprived. Just a horrible, angry, gross feeling like I was pushing myself through a fog or a swamp all day. I couldn't see very well, and I was so irritable. I can't even describe it properly. I have NEVER felt like that before or since.

I told my mom about it. We were both puzzled as to what might have happened, but I just let it be and forgot about it. It wasn't like weird things hadn't happened to me at night before...I have SEEN things before while dozing off on the couch, but it has never been a sinister presence until this time. My other experiences were just neutral.

Okay, so recently my mom and I discovered a past life regression method where she relaxes and clears her mind completely, and I ask her questions and she sees/feels the answers appear in the blank of her mind. She is very gifted and it came so naturally, that we started using this method for things other than past life questions. I started asking her questions about anything, and she would answer what she sees in her mind. I'm guessing she's tapping into the akashic records or something like that...

So the other day, I decided to ask her about my weird experience, and the answers she got scared us both. A lot. She told me that the thing I felt in my room that night was a very powerful negative entity, very FOREIGN (was the word she kept using) to our dimension. This is the worst part though-- when I asked how this thing came to me, she said I found something about it online during my research about reptilians and conspiracy theories. I found a NAME (I don't recall this at all..) and just by thinking about it, I caused it to cross paths with me in a very coincidental manner. And I felt so rotten the next day, because it absorbed some of my energy and disrupted my energy fields. She kept saying that I should forget about it, that it is dangerous to think about something like that because I might attract it again. She had to stop our session because her heart started beating so fast, she felt the intense anger from the memory of that thing being cornered in my room.

Now, being the incredibly curious person I am, I cannot STOP thinking about something that bizarre! If something so weird happens, how do you NOT think about it?! But because I keep returning to those thoughts in my mind, I am a little afraid that I might cause something to happen again. Is it true that just by thinking about something, you can attract it to you? So not even thoughts are safe? I am paranoid now that I am not even free to think and wonder about things without making myself into a sort of beacon.

My question is-- in your experiences, is it really that easy to attract negative things? Is curiosity really that dangerous, or was it extremely coincidental and probably won't happen again without active participation on my part? I am certainly not the sort of person to want to interfere with entities. I wouldn't even get near a Ouija Board. I am not trained in dealing with this stuff, nor do I desire to be trained in dealing with this stuff. I know my limitations, I do not want to seek out entities positive or negative. It's hard enough dealing with human beings here on earth! All I have ever been seeking is information. Now I am a little anxious about even that...

I'd greatly appreciate ANY thoughts anyone might have.


I also posted this on the Astral Dynamics forum earlier today:

http://forums.astraldynamics.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16186

k_elli
29-10-2009, 05:16 PM
Any ideas? Or, does anybody know of another forum where I can post this? I got a very patronizing response on the Astral Dynamics boards...according to that person I am just naive and fearful, and the negative entities out there are just astral "critters". I was hoping the David Icke people had more open minded insight??

newworldengineer
29-10-2009, 07:21 PM
It sounds familiar to some of the things I've experienced, and I've often wondered about how thinking about something can attract something in your life, even though you may not want it and just want to analyze the situation. But on that same note, I think about money all the time but I don't start finding it everywhere....

I would maybe cut out going into that trance state where you can see with your eyes closed, as it probably is like you shining through more prominently in these other realms as you peer into them like a beacon, I know exactly the feeling you're talking about, it's that place between, the waking state and dreaming state.

I used to have demonic visions and have felt a sinister presence in my room once, so I've kinda negated tapping into that aspect of who I am. not just yet anyways, I got vices to sort out first :-P

the way I see it is, thoughts are just thoughts until you empower them with intent... I mean just think about all the thoughts that are swirling round our heads daily and none of them manifesting in this reality... except maybe you see an external symbol of what you're thinking about which can connect some dots on what you were thinking about... but I don't think if you just think about something in passing it's gonna manifest, it takes intense ritual for that kind of thing.

I hope my understandings have satisfied you in some way, forum wise :p

k_elli
29-10-2009, 08:42 PM
Thank you for your reply! You did help put me at ease. It's good to know similar things have happened to other people. But the trance thing, as with astral projecting and lucid dreaming, it all happens to me so spontaneously. And when it does happen, it's so exciting I always try to see where it takes me. But I know what you mean-- I should learn to control these things some more.

spiraltrance
29-10-2009, 08:50 PM
My question is-- in your experiences, is it really that easy to attract negative things?Is curiosity really that dangerous, or was it extremely coincidental and probably won't happen again without active participation on my part?

Negative entities are around everywhere though usualy they lie below your conscious radar. Probably just coincidence that you focusing on a name and happen to encounter a negative being. And if your higher consciousness is awakening they will often be attracted to you and try and scare you away from awakening any further. They can't cause you any physical pain but they can temporarily damage you psychologicaly i.e scare you senseless and that's what there goal is.

If you encounter one again try and remain in a single pointed state and observe it with thinking anything positive or negative or call for god/jesus/angel for protection. Alot easier than it sounds when you in the presence of a negative entity but that's what I try and do.

newworldengineer
29-10-2009, 09:15 PM
Negative entities are around everywhere though usualy they lie below your conscious radar. Probably just coincidence that you focusing on a name and happen to encounter a negative being. And if your higher consciousness is awakening they will often be attracted to you and try and scare you away from awakening any further. They can't cause you any physical pain but they can temporarily damage you psychologicaly i.e scare you senseless and that's what there goal is.

If you encounter one again try and remain in a single pointed state and observe it with thinking anything positive or negative or call for god/jesus/angel for protection. Alot easier than it sounds when you in the presence of a negative entity but that's what I try and do.

good advice man :) I shouldn't fear my abilities, transcending the duality is the key.

velasca
30-10-2009, 03:19 AM
I became interested in astral projection a few months ago and I've tried to do it a few times but never quite managed it when I've actively tried to do it. I've felt like I'm getting close a few times and I've gotten into some nice states where I feel very relaxed and physically light but never left my body. But the most interesting experiences have happened over the past few weeks unexpectedly when I'm asleep.

A few weeks ago I kept being woken up and annoyed by something in the room. I then seemingly left my body, floated off the ground a few feet away from it but I was face down and couldn't move, it was like I was being dragged from my body. I wasn't really scared by all this, just annoyed that I was constantly being woke up. It was as if something negative was messing about with me.

Another experience I had was where I was dreaming I was on my allotment and once I realised I was dreaming, I flew out of my shed into the air where I looked down at our car. I then appeared back at home on the sofa (where I was sleeping) with dark shapes floating about above me, it felt real except I was lying in a different direction to where my physical body would be.

metacomet
30-10-2009, 04:03 AM
There is a reason the literal name of God was hidden and remains hidden. They don't want us to attract that kind of positive enlightening spirit.

Also, the real names of many holy spirits are covered by popular mistranslations.

Finally, the names of actual demons are presented purposefully to us in everyday life in order to allow them access to us.

'They' do this on scales that are hard to comprehend.

For instance, I heard through the research of Chris Everard (youtube it for great videos) that the military campaign in Iraq called 'Shock and Awe' which is repeated by many to this day and written in history books is actually a cover for an archetypal demon 'Shakanah' (not sure how it's spelled).

That is the name of a serious malevolent being and it is sneakily placed in our subconscious. And because the military campaign got world wide attention, the phrase Shock and Awe (which is actually a demons name) was implanted in billions of peoples subconscious...

The term 'helter skelter' popularized by the Beatles and others is likewise the name of an archetypal demon.

We have no way of knowing how often this kind of stuff goes on... every major corporation owned by the Illuminati not only has logos and symbols that are meant to influence us, they are most likely named in order to cast spells on us and introduce Demons into the world.

Does this sound plausible to you OP?

You heard a name that stuck with you and influenced you in a big way. That's just the power of words... and it's all around us, this sort of thing.

I have a close friend who is very sensitive to energies and when we were in a bookstore together I took a look at Necronomicon. She didn't like the name of the book - and when I turned to a certain page and mentioned names of demons or demonic places or worlds she especially didn't want to hear it. There is a reason.

k_elli
30-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Wow, metacomet. Thank you immensely!! I am going to be extra vigilant from now on. Actually I can't thank you enough for that insight! :)

deuce mcallister
30-10-2009, 07:43 PM
Metacomet, do you know any of the true names of the good guys or gals?

richie p
09-11-2009, 05:10 PM
REPLY TO K ELLI

reading that is like deja vu........
its happening to me most nights its horriable how do you stop it????:eek:

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12-11-2009, 08:28 PM
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pureheart
12-11-2009, 08:35 PM
It sounds as though you need to protect yourself as you are open to negative energies.

There are various methods I believe. When I give Reiki I surround myself in a sort of egg-shaped energy and ask for protection.

Here is some info about protection from Rense.com
A Prayer for Protection from Negative Entities

If you should suddenly find yourself in the presence of a seen or unseen entity that appears to be frightening or threatening to you, immediately respond by saying the following prayer:

"O Beloved [say here the name of the holy figure you most revere] send your protective energies of light and love around me at once.

"Erect a shield of love and light around me that is invincible, all powerful, and unable to be penetrated by any negative or evil force.

"Keep me completely protected from all things that are not of the Light or of God.

"Keep me immune from the energy of all negative, evil, or hostile beings.

"Banish at once the entity that I see [feel, hear, smell] before me!"

http://www.rense.com/neg.htm

metacomet
12-11-2009, 09:37 PM
Metacomet, do you know any of the true names of the good guys or gals?

Nah, I wouldn't say I do. There is too much debate about it altogether.

Tetragrammaton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetragrammaton) was argued to be the true name of God, but by definition it is referring to the letters in God's name which we translate as 'Yahweh' now... so alot of people demand that Yahweh is the only true name of God.

The actual word 'God' is referring to one particular deity among a pantheon of pagan gods - it was a word used for that deity alone and didn't actually refer to the 'Almighty' ultimate one and only God until christianity and other religions begin to use it as such.

Allah is considered the one and only true name of God by others as well. The sound 'Allah' is considered to be holy and to speak the word 'Allah' out loud annoints you with the presence of God (supposedly). This refers to my original point that the name of spirits or deities is vital and speaking them or even reading them allows them to enter your consciousness.


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When it comes to the opposite of God... demons and archetypal demons... demon lords etc, some of their names were spoken to people in visions or during dark rituals and these names were written down. Alot of them are secret, but as I explained in my earlier post in the thread ,these demon names are slipped into everyday terminology.

To this day people still encounter demons in sleep or in visions and the demon speaks it's name to them, scarring them psychically. To speak it's name to the person is a form of attack, it leaves an imprint or a word in their head which they have a hard time letting go of.

If any person has encountered a demon and had it's name revealed to them it tends to be a serious event and they go running for the nearest religious authorities to save them.


The most famous compilation of demonic names is in the Necronomicon (http://usersites.horrorfind.com/home/horror/demon/necro-9.html) which is considered by scholars to be a fake book. The story within and all the content within is supposedly fictional ... never the less, the demonic names are still called upon by black magicians and satanists, and because the book is so old, it is likely that actual demons have inherited these names or manifested around them and rely on our speaking them or hearing them to allow entry to our world...

For instance if you were a Demon and your real name was 'George'... but people are attempting to summon a demon named 'Gorgon' (totally made that up) - there may be no such demon as 'Gorgon' but you are free to assume his title. The more you show up when that name is called the more you affiliate yourself with that name until it is a calling card for your demonic vibration...

This kind of alter-ego name changing probably happens alot.

tazika
14-11-2009, 06:24 PM
Few years ago I was involved in similar... thing. On hyppodrome I talked with a youngster, maybe 15-16 years old, and he talked as he would be older, something weird was with him. I wanted to check some info for him, so we shared tel.numbers. He started to call me and talk strangely, and then he told me that he spends all his free time playing a computer game, maybe it was "Dragons and dungeons", I am not sure now. And he told me the name of his favourite character in a game, and I don't want to write or say this name ever again.
Next day he called, and I started to tell him: "Please stop playing that game, I've checked and your character is a dangerous demon, he is not "ex-vampire that became good" as you say, he fooled you, you have to stop contacting him immediately! He is an antient demon and if you continue he might come to you" - at that moment happened 2 things:
1. Boy told me: "He is already in me, and it is fantastic" and laughed demonicly,
2. That thing hit me through the telephone, I felt intensive pain in the right ear, one right tooth broke, all my right side was hit so in a few hours I got inflamation of some organs on a right side, during the night my right foot got dark and inflammed, pain not responding to the painkillers. It stopped before I decided to call ambulance... and why to call them when I knew...
when that demon hit me, I left the phone and falled in my bed, realizing the danger. So I was saying loud: (his name) - I am leaving you this boy, I promise I will stop any contact with him, I will never again try to take him from you etc.
Then the grip of pain loosened, enough for me to go to the tel. and tell this things to the boy, like: "Go on with this game, it is good for you, you're right and THAT really is ex-demon but now he really turned completely good etc."

After few years, on hyppodrome, came young lady to me and introduced herself as his sister. She thought I might know what is with her brother. I kept the promise given to that demon (I never said his name again!) but I told her if she had a possibility to move - she left to live with her grandmother. Sister told me that he got much worse, opsessed with a computer, aggressive, and she feared for her life.
I wonder what is now with them...

Advice for you: your comments are very clever and wise, you have thr right to KNOW, and here you got good suggestions. Simply don't speak aloud his name, and make protection whenever you feel there might possibility of evil presence (for example when Googling his name or other demons). I am a catholic for 7 years, Before my baptization I was afraid whenever I felt non-fisical evil presences, I was scared to the bones. Now, in that kind of situations, I simply say something like: "I protect myself with the Name of the Iesus Christ", or: "I don't accept anybody who is not Iesus's", and that protection does work. And yes, I say it aloud - can be a whisper, but must be SAID - they all hear very good, but can't read your thoughts (only God can): it's proven that human can trick them if he knows that fact.

deuce mcallister
17-11-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for the response, Meta. I have always interpreted the Tetragrammaton to mean I am Who Am (or God is the one perceiving the universe and attempting to define God). In the sense:

"The only real crime is that you won't admit that you are God." - Alan Watts