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[ashyr]

Call me paranoid or delusional or mental whatever.

last night I think i got to close to something, I was following a subject that is being covered up in my country (seriously) and i found all the articles i was replying to and checking fastly being destroyed and removed from the NET.
so luckily i had a copy of some of the info so i reposted it.
i then sat down on the couch with my girl.
i started to feel a tad bizaare like i was really hot but going to faint.
so i stood up and went for the outside door for some cold air.
i got there and the sensation seemed to disapear.
i then returned back to the seat and as soon as i sat down i realised it wasnt disapeared it was coming on stronger than ever.

i ran for the door this time. as i got towards the door. my vision was disapearing, and i lost my legs. they went all jelly and i managed to get to the door. i told my girl i dont feel to good, then i was outside. i was leaving my body, i seriously thought i was dying. so i heard my girl running over the room towards me, this is when i was thinking "this might be the last moment of my conciousness" so i said "call an ambulance" and i crumbled on the ground.
thats when it hit me.

something (spiritually,or mental, or sonic attack) just engrossed my hole body. my body was all fuzzy all round me, my vision disolved, my thing i have is a big ringing from all my kundalini energy, but this was like 2 million times louder than ever. my head was like an electric microphone, it seriously felt like someone had shoved a gigantic GLASS tube right thru my head. everything was so increased in intensity and clarity. but not volume, by that time my girl had ran and got the neighbour because this was definatly serious. but i could hear everything, but there was no LEFT OR RIGHT. if i heard something it was all around me. there was no hearing a noise in left ear. it was equal sides of me. i then said to my girl "someones attacking me, something, some weapon or sound thing its attacking me, whats going on, can u hear that, is it just me,"
then the neighbour appeared. and i forced myself to throw up incase it was poison or something. by the time the neighbour appeared i was covered invomit and shaking uncontrollable i was dilerious, out of it. they were all so concerned. now i began to come back, things began to get less intense. but the TUBULAR SOUND thru my head didnt disapear. now its been like 12 hours and i suppose ive got used to that SOUND i can definaltly hear it still now.

this i cannot explain. i'm seriously freaked me the hell out. and you all know me very well. im very strong with this stuff, but nothing like this has ever happend on this scale before. i was so far gone. so far out of my comfort zone.

something is after me. something attacked me. i dont know what it was

i think its either 1 of 4 things.
1. "directly related to the info i reposted (when i shouldnt have?)
2. "a sonic weapon or new kind of mind control device"
3 "some kind of subconcious programming, triggered by a tv or something?"
4 "something to do with the ormus because its coming up to the 9month period"

anyway im taking precautions. and i know someone is following me. i was followed by a unmarked police car with a blueshirt driving, he drove past thismorning before i left my girls place and he fully looked at me when he drove past. then i left and came home. now im clearing my computer and database of all this stuff. im going to burn a CD and hide it and then im out. i dont want to be a victim of this shit. and its in my best interest to stop posting on this site or the next attack might be very serious.

thank you all . youve been great. and i hope you all continue to push the limits.

i cant fully say i will not post or visit this site again .maybe ill keep readin but im not making my presense known for safety sake =D. thank you

[monique]

Check the book the Arcturus Probe by Arguelles on mayan martyrdom.

Good luck to you.

[cheeb]

True Freedom fighters do not give up at the first hurdle.
We don't hide or run away,
We stand on our feet,
Face our opressors'
We say do your worst,
I would rather live on my feet,
Than die on my knees,

So bring it on NWO,
There are some that will stand up to you,
Peace on Earth,
Power to the People,
One Love!!!

[seanx]

You create your own reality - if you are CONSCIOUS.

Otherwise, your unconscious mind will do it for you. You need to look
towards your OWN beliefs - and not what is happpening to you.

[bigus_dickus]

something like that has happened to me. i couldn't understand what it was and i still don't, it looked like a so called 'psychic attack', but i am not so sure how and why. usually this thing doesn't touch me, but it came at a time that i was unsuspected.

what i did in my case, was to hurry to bed and fall down and sleep as fast as i could. this helped me, because when i woke up after a couple of hours i was fine as before. it all came suddenly when i was unsuspected and not worried at all, i have no idea where it came from and why. i too have thought that maybe it was because of something that i did and i tried to figure it out, but i couldn't say for sure what exactly it was. but, i decided that whatever it was, i would make sure if possible so that it doesn't happen again.

[ashyr]

yes ive been trying to figure out what the fuck it was. still no ideas.

my old moto used to be, "shit anything that presents its self is just further confirmation of this kind of existance, be it conspiracy or spiritual or personal"

but man seriously like you say. i dont want this to happen again. i felt kinda sad that it had happend infront of my girl. i really didnt want to leave a body in her living room, so i did the whole dying dog thing and headed for the door.
ill tell you though some freaky thing inside me is trying to tell me, that this was the next wave, and soon after i had stopped the shock and sht. i sat down to calm down my girl. and it started happening again.but this time i supressed it with positive thought. and basically imagined it wasnt there. and it went away in about 5 minutes.

that what doesnt kill us will make us stronger. and hey i spose if my mouth should be shut and these sick fuck's with weapons of this magnitude can just use them at there discretion like that. weather i should continue to spout my shit on these forums and anyone who wants to know. for fear of retaliation on a bigger scale next time.

what do you do? i mean shit if it was something so silly like i knew what it was. i would be over it right now. laughing joking, i dont hold grudges or dwell on shit. but this is just changed me forever, i am still sorta paranoid. im always lookn over my shoulder for someone following me or lookin for signs or things that will give me clues as to what the fuck that was.

[herebynightfall]

True Freedom fighters do not give up at the first hurdle.
We don't hide or run away,
We stand on our feet,
Face our opressors'
We say do your worst,
I would rather live on my feet,
Than die on my knees,

So bring it on NWO,
There are some that will stand up to you,
Peace on Earth,
Power to the People,
One Love!!!

i'm not a freedom fighter.. i'm a be-er

i just am. there is nothing to fight.

there are those taken in by the lie, consumed by it.
there are those who know of the lie, and try and fight it.

and there are those who have taken a step back to absorb it all in and what it means.
and doesn't care why where or when we are right now.

and we find our own meaning in our lives, and we don't let nothing get us down.

[bigus_dickus]

but man seriously like you say. i dont want this to happen again. i felt kinda sad that it had happend infront of my girl. i really didnt want to leave a body in her living room, so i did the whole dying dog thing and headed for the door.
ill tell you though some freaky thing inside me is trying to tell me, that this was the next wave, and soon after i had stopped the shock and sht. i sat down to calm down my girl. and it started happening again.but this time i supressed it with positive thought. and basically imagined it wasnt there. and it went away in about 5 minutes.

in my case, it happened in front of my brother, as i sat at his desk to fix his computer and then his friend came also and i was in a bad shape.

it was like my soul was on an emergency and wanted to immediately leave my body, all the life sucked out of me, as you describe and this ringing on my ears like everything is going to collapse. that's why i compensated it with sleep, which is in a way the soul or part of it leaving the body. which is not something that i thought about at that time, but kinda felt it was the proper thing to do. later on, my brother came in and asked me "are you alive?"

and i was like "man, death just paid me a visit" :)

i don't think something like that is harmful though, positive thoughts can make it go away, that is if you are able to think at that moment.. else, from my experience, a nice sleep should do the job.

before that happened, i wouldn't believe that something like that would happen to me, so it was a positive experience overall and i think that's how you should think it as. it's ok if we don't understand it right now, maybe we will later.

[ashyr]

yes exaclty. your details match mine so correctly.

i felt like because was out of my confort zone that the negative spin was only put on it by me, and maybe it was something beyond me that i was getting around.

now im thinking i should stand and face it. find out what it was

so should i disapear people, you all know what has happend.
Im going to do my best to do what i always do.

why should this make a difference in my everyday life like it has?

the whole it was like my soul was on an emergency and wanted to immediately leave my body, all the life sucked out of me, as you describe and this ringing on my ears like everything is going to collapse.

is exactly it.

[cheeb]

Then you will just,
have to realise that,
some of us will be on the front line,
Fighting opression,
Be it racism,poverty or injustice,
POe
Pttp

[fccool]

Dude, this is serious. My guess is that is could be a signal or a test just to see what you will do next. My advice is do what you think is right for you. There's no real meaning to it all if you are dead or brain damaged. So, be careful. I'm not saying that you should give up, but sharpen your axe for a while. Don't stir up controversy and come back when it all blows over. Heading to be a Martyr at the front lines is not very benefitial, because dead are forgotten... and most of the time are useless. So, stay alive.

[fccool]

Then you will just,
have to realise that,
some of us will be on the front line,
Fighting opression,
Be it racism,poverty or injustice,
POe
Pttp


Well spoken... from the comfy environment of your living room.

[herebynightfall]

do not fight oppression.
do night fight racism, and do not fight the ignorant.

teach the ignorant, through your own actions of not worrying.

live life how you think it should be for everyone.

be wise still, yes of course, be wise.

be whacky, be intuitive. pick up the best, and drop what doesnt seem to fit.

tv shows, and trends, and the popularity game. is the excess of EGO

don't let ego corrupt you into thinking that we are all so different.
and that quarrels cannot be overcome by peace.
and that drama and murder are neccessary for living in this day.

just be.

http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/fs10/300W/i/2006/121/4/e/Missing_Piece_by_Violator3.jpg

[william_mac]

Weird.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[lifeofbrian]

Call me paranoid or delusional or mental whatever.

last night I think i got to close to something, I was following a subject that is being covered up in my country (seriously) and i found all the articles i was replying to and checking fastly being destroyed and removed from the NET.
so luckily i had a copy of some of the info so i reposted it.
i then sat down on the couch with my girl.
i started to feel a tad bizaare like i was really hot but going to faint.
so i stood up and went for the outside door for some cold air.
i got there and the sensation seemed to disapear.
i then returned back to the seat and as soon as i sat down i realised it wasnt disapeared it was coming on stronger than ever.

i ran for the door this time. as i got towards the door. my vision was disapearing, and i lost my legs. they went all jelly and i managed to get to the door. i told my girl i dont feel to good, then i was outside. i was leaving my body, i seriously thought i was dying. so i heard my girl running over the room towards me, this is when i was thinking "this might be the last moment of my conciousness" so i said "call an ambulance" and i crumbled on the ground.
thats when it hit me.

something (spiritually,or mental, or sonic attack) just engrossed my hole body. my body was all fuzzy all round me, my vision disolved, my thing i have is a big ringing from all my kundalini energy, but this was like 2 million times louder than ever. my head was like an electric microphone, it seriously felt like someone had shoved a gigantic GLASS tube right thru my head. everything was so increased in intensity and clarity. but not volume, by that time my girl had ran and got the neighbour because this was definatly serious. but i could hear everything, but there was no LEFT OR RIGHT. if i heard something it was all around me. there was no hearing a noise in left ear. it was equal sides of me. i then said to my girl "someones attacking me, something, some weapon or sound thing its attacking me, whats going on, can u hear that, is it just me,"
then the neighbour appeared. and i forced myself to throw up incase it was poison or something. by the time the neighbour appeared i was covered invomit and shaking uncontrollable i was dilerious, out of it. they were all so concerned. now i began to come back, things began to get less intense. but the TUBULAR SOUND thru my head didnt disapear. now its been like 12 hours and i suppose ive got used to that SOUND i can definaltly hear it still now.

this i cannot explain. i'm seriously freaked me the hell out. and you all know me very well. im very strong with this stuff, but nothing like this has ever happend on this scale before. i was so far gone. so far out of my comfort zone.

something is after me. something attacked me. i dont know what it was

i think its either 1 of 4 things.
1. "directly related to the info i reposted (when i shouldnt have?)
2. "a sonic weapon or new kind of mind control device"
3 "some kind of subconcious programming, triggered by a tv or something?"
4 "something to do with the ormus because its coming up to the 9month period"

anyway im taking precautions. and i know someone is following me. i was followed by a unmarked police car with a blueshirt driving, he drove past thismorning before i left my girls place and he fully looked at me when he drove past. then i left and came home. now im clearing my computer and database of all this stuff. im going to burn a CD and hide it and then im out. i dont want to be a victim of this shit. and its in my best interest to stop posting on this site or the next attack might be very serious.

thank you all . youve been great. and i hope you all continue to push the limits.

i cant fully say i will not post or visit this site again .maybe ill keep readin but im not making my presense known for safety sake =D. thank you


Don't know if this helps, but that does sound a bit similar to a panic attack/anxiety attack.

Symptoms are:

Physical

An extremely unpleasant sensation of adrenaline over the entire body
Sweating
Shortness of breath (dyspnea)
Racing or pounding heartbeat or palpitations
Chest pain
Dizziness or vertigo
Lightheadedness
Nausea / stomach pains
Hyperventilation
Choking or smothering sensations
Uncontrollable itching
Tingling or numbness in the hands, face, feet or mouth (paresthesia)
Hot/cold flashes
Trembling or shaking
Feeling of claustrophobia
Exhaustion
Feeling of physical weakness or limpness of the body.

Mental

Loss of the ability to react logically to stimuli
Loss of cognitive ability in general
Racing thoughts (often based on fear; a repeated or illogical worry)
Loud internal dialogue
Feeling of impending doom
Feeling of "going crazy"
Extreme worried feeling
Feeling of extreme nervousness

Emotional

Terror, or a sense that something unimaginably horrible is about to occur and one is powerless to prevent it
Fear that the panic is a symptom of a serious illness
Fear of losing control
Fear of death
Fear of going crazy
Flashbacks to earlier panic trigger [citation needed]

Perceptual

Tunnel vision
Heightened senses
The apparent slowing down or speeding up of time
Dream-like sensation or perceptual distortion (derealization)
Dissociation, or the perception that one is not connected to the body or is disconnected from space and time (depersonalization)



If you google panic attack symptoms or anciety attack symptoms, you can check for yourself and - if nothing else - rule that possibility out?

Panic attacks are fairly common, and a lot of stuff can set one off.

Shallow breathing or too much coffee or nicotine for example. If the body thinks it's being poisoned or suffocating it will struggle to alarm through jolting/shocking the whole system into staying alive, and so the nervous system goes a bit haywire for a while.

Best thing to do for most is to be proactive and take care of ones health, breathe properly and use the body in some kind of exercise regularly in order to get rid of internal stress, etc.

All the best to you.

[bigus_dickus]

so should i disapear people, you all know what has happend.
Im going to do my best to do what i always do.

i am thinking that your intuition, your "gut feeling" will tell you what to do, not me or other people. if you feel like abstaining, then do it silently, then if you think like participating do it again silently, your ego should not get in the way.

[bigus_dickus]

lifeofbrian,

i don't think we are describing a panic attack.. i didn't have any of those symptoms, otherwise i would recognize it a a panic attack. it is like one moment you feel fine and the other you feel horrible, like you got really sick for no apparent reason, without any obvious symptoms. it's hard to describe.

[cleft_asunder]

Where's the info you said you posted??

[lifeofbrian]

lifeofbrian,

i don't think we are describing a panic attack.. i didn't have any of those symptoms, otherwise i would recognize it a a panic attack. it is like one moment you feel fine and the other you feel horrible, like you got really sick for no apparent reason, without any obvious symptoms. it's hard to describe.

Well, like I said, looking into it ashyr can at least rule it out then. Like you did in your case. Only trying to be of assistance.

http://www.panic-anxiety.com/panic_attack_symptoms/panic-attack-symptoms.htm

Typical of panic attacks is that they are very sudden, since you mention it. I know a panic attack does not seem as exciting as being used for target practising by some obscure 'them' but checking the obvious first before going for the fantastic is a good rule of thumb now and then.

Peace.

[ashyr]

replying from my mobile so ignore typing errors. my girl said straight away that i was having a panic attack. or what looked like. many me the symptoms described earlier in this thread are somewhat true. but none of them at the same time. i didn't gave any feeling of wanting to throw up. no pain. it was near enough to a obe. it starts in your chest like a burning ball. but your body reacts like its freezing. i am going to keep cool but at the same time. ill bring a sharp axe. let you know more as it unfolds. thanks to all posting here. i love you all.

[kashmirz]

That is what i have come to know as a Shavant, at least thats what it is called in my language in my head, they are negative entity constucts, much like psi balls , the energy is pooled and then given a spark thought, it carrys out its course.

Frequent in uper end masonic rituals , and also used to take things from peoples minds.

You need to learn to sheild.

Once you are sheilded, dont worry about focusing on it,you wont see it because it doesnt exist in anything but resonance, concentrate your energy on spliting the spark thought (that of it targeting you) from its negative energy, the construct will then fall apart.

[kblood]

Could be a possession of some kind as well. A few of the things you wrote is similar to possession, which is also very similar to a psychic attack (since it is basicly the same.).

If not a panic attack (do not know you, but can't a doctor help you rule out wether or not is was a regular panic attack maybe? and hopefully not declare you mental, but would be a very bad doctor if he/she did.), then I see two other possibilites:

Possession
Psychic attack

Could also be more to it, like advanced technology, but I always try to keep this as last option. It really takes some serious stuff before anyone begins using advanced technology on us, I think. But I have had my suspicions about it before as well.

What to do: A good mental defence seems the first and best thing to build up. Maybe you can find some kind of "necromancer" person to help you? You need someone with alot of knowledge and summoning ghosts or spirits, and able to communicate with them as well. Seems to me there should be quite alot of the, just a bit shy. You will probably need someone who is at least 40 years old. Most people I have seen and heard about with good knowledge and who is sure to know how to protect him/her self and others against the "entities" and doing it all safely. I guess they are called mediums or channelers or something. I am not really sure.

You might be able to learn it all on your own, but as far I know spirits, ghosts and psychic attacks are among the most dangerous things to experiment with on your own. Especially since it might just end up leaving you open for another attack if anything goes wrong.

Most of all, it is about willpower. Knowing that you are in control of your own body, not letting anything dominate your thoughts or will and staying in control of your whole body. As it seems to me a psychic attack or possession can be done on any part of you, not neccesarely all at once. If you are talking, then the "attacker" wont be able to talk through you(unless it can force you with its willpower).

It is very hard for me to explain it any better :( There are probably books about it, but since necromancy is not exactly the most popular readings, and since it is as dangerous as it is, there are not that many books on the subject. There might be some on mental defences though...

I hope you find a way to deal with this. Best of luck Ashyr.

If needed, we could chat over PMs or messenger, and try to establish mental contact. Then I might be able to help you next time(hopfull no next time) you are attacked. I am not sure if I can let myself be "open" for these things for much longer though. I am getting a job soon, and I do believe it will make it impossible for me not to reject mental contact. Kind of what I am hoping to get from doing this job as well :o

[edelweiss pirate]

It's in your head, I suffered from these things for a while as a leftover from Illuminati indoctrination. You say you have had a kundalini exp? This makes you more sensitive to any thoughts and suggestions and also more powerful at externalising them and making them real.


I used to think it was demons or aliens or psychotronic weapons and god knows what else.

I finally put it all to bed while staying in a hotel in Jordan. I heard this high pitched whining noise which seemed to amplify when I concentrated on it and diminished when I ignored it...

Anyway I became hypnotised by it and became convinced that they were still after me and were using sound or microwave weapons to wear me down and control my mind.

I became faint, fearful and I felt like I was walking on a tight rope between life and death...

With a last grain of willpower I managed to get out of the room and told a member of the hotel staff and asked him if he could hear it.

When he came we heard no noise and I was worried that they would only make the noise when I was alone.

Eventually however it returned, it turns out he could hear it and that the noise was caused by the electrical water heating system. We went on the roof to check it out.

From that time since I don't even get these 'demon-haunting', psychotronic weapon/ astral attack bullshit because I know it's all in my mind....

It takes an allmighty chumping of oneself to see the truth of things but it is reassuring to be honest that they're not out to get you...

They can make you think they're out to get you... Once they can do this you destroy yourself with their help.... insanity delusion... mental homes and you're OUT!

[kblood]

I finally put it all to bed while staying in a hotel in Jordan. I heard this high pitched whining noise which seemed to amplify when I concentrated on it and diminished when I ignored it...


WTF? I have these on a regular basis :eek: I used to like removing these high pitched sounds when I was a little wee kid. Concentrating on ignoring it is very effective indeed :). Simply make you focus your hearing on other things, and thoughts as well. I have always thoughts of this as a sound getting caught in my ears, but I have always been wondering how that could be "ignored away". I have tried asking family and friends if they had tried something similar, but I havent gotten a clear answer on that.

[ho1ogram]

I LOVE YOU

G'day Ashyr, I agree with ep.

I've had dark entities on me; reptile/alien like encounters with silver spheres involved; a pshychic attack and other assorted jazz. It is fear, pure and simple.

The Illuminati live inside you (not literally :D) and we choose to live in fear or to face our fears and take control of our own lives. It is daunting and we like to blame others and 'them' for the way we feel. The truth is that you are an aspect of ALL THAT IS and are thus the creator of your reality... the ultimate conspiracy is that we are helpless... in truth you are infinite. Your merely perceiving things from a human experience, a choice made to give yourself the gift of remembering who you truly are; INFINITE LOVE.

If there are elements of your life that are bringing you fear you have the choice to put them aside and create a new reality for your self; you can even access the source of All That Is. In fact you already do but are merely unaware of it... this is free will... having the choice to choose what you wish to experience.

Infinite Possibility dude. :)

THANK YOU

[carlg1212]

Call me paranoid or delusional or mental whatever.

You had a panic attack. Nothing more. This conspiracy shite will get to you. In many ways, we're already enlightened. Stick around...the journey gets even more interesting if you can let your fears simply become gauges on how to react to situations. Trust your intuition.

[chris]

I've had experiences like yours except that I am literally frozen stiff. It takes all the energy I can possibly muster to just lift an eyelid, I get that loud noise of energy that you described...I don't know what it is but I think I am having a seizure when it happens.

[pumma]

Take care Ashyr (for now) and rest your mind for a bit, then do what you think it's best ;)

[cheeb]

Still here then,
Youre dramatic exit,
Is taking a time,
Ain't it!!!!!

:rolleyes:

[28th kingdom]

Man... if it hasn't already been said in this thread... that was just a damn panic attack... they hit suddenly like that... and if you have paranoid thoughts... while they're happening i.e. yer being poisoned... than that just escalates it to the tenth degree.

I've had these before... I've had one while smoking some pot... because I got the idea that it was laced with LSD... and I just completely flipped out... thought I was dying... or going crazy... this can also happen out of the blue...

If yer subconcious picks up on something like a sound or smell... that is asscociated with a disturbing emotion... than it can trigger that emotion... and if yer not aware that this happened... than it feels like something has suddenly attacked you or possessed you... but it's an illusion man...

[sean~infinte]

john lennon-you ether die fighting for peace-or you just die

look at seanx thread about death nothing to fear at all

you have a choice red pill/blue pill

EDIT: you can create ur reality just know they will fail on there impostion of free will yh they might try to harm you but they wont look at the countless times david icke has attempts to stop his work but he KNOWS he will knever stop giving info as long as he draws breath

and FOLLOW UR HEART ur higher consciousness when u follow that u can move mountains

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

You had a panic attack. Nothing more. This conspiracy shite will get to you. In many ways, we're already enlightened. Stick around...the journey gets even more interesting if you can let your fears simply become gauges on how to react to situations. Trust your intuition.

Fool, did you experience it? were u there?He is trusting his intuition, That's psychic attack or he had black majik cast against him, why would u come here just to tell someone they didn't experience something? why don't you go join the line of people telling the jews there was no holocost, and while your at it tell the native americans that the deal they made of beads for new york is fare, and they were treaded equally throught their history, or why not tell the aborigines in tasmania that they weren't slaughtered by the british...oops there's none left...

ur ignorance astounds me....

[harris999]

Don't know if this helps, but that does sound a bit similar to a panic attack/anxiety attack.

Symptoms are:

Physical

An extremely unpleasant sensation of adrenaline over the entire body
Sweating
Shortness of breath (dyspnea)
Racing or pounding heartbeat or palpitations
Chest pain
Dizziness or vertigo
Lightheadedness
Nausea / stomach pains
Hyperventilation
Choking or smothering sensations
Uncontrollable itching
Tingling or numbness in the hands, face, feet or mouth (paresthesia)
Hot/cold flashes
Trembling or shaking
Feeling of claustrophobia
Exhaustion
Feeling of physical weakness or limpness of the body.

Mental

Loss of the ability to react logically to stimuli
Loss of cognitive ability in general
Racing thoughts (often based on fear; a repeated or illogical worry)
Loud internal dialogue
Feeling of impending doom
Feeling of "going crazy"
Extreme worried feeling
Feeling of extreme nervousness

Emotional

Terror, or a sense that something unimaginably horrible is about to occur and one is powerless to prevent it
Fear that the panic is a symptom of a serious illness
Fear of losing control
Fear of death
Fear of going crazy
Flashbacks to earlier panic trigger [citation needed]

Perceptual

Tunnel vision
Heightened senses
The apparent slowing down or speeding up of time
Dream-like sensation or perceptual distortion (derealization)
Dissociation, or the perception that one is not connected to the body or is disconnected from space and time (depersonalization)



If you google panic attack symptoms or anciety attack symptoms, you can check for yourself and - if nothing else - rule that possibility out?

Panic attacks are fairly common, and a lot of stuff can set one off.

Shallow breathing or too much coffee or nicotine for example. If the body thinks it's being poisoned or suffocating it will struggle to alarm through jolting/shocking the whole system into staying alive, and so the nervous system goes a bit haywire for a while.

Best thing to do for most is to be proactive and take care of ones health, breathe properly and use the body in some kind of exercise regularly in order to get rid of internal stress, etc.

All the best to you.


I suffered from panic attacks for a while. Mostly it was the fear of having a panic attack that brought on the panic attack. But anyway,

I found the best way to "beat" them (panic attacks) is to literally let them "take you". You treat the Panic Attack as an "old friend" and dont try to fight it at all, like, no breathing execises, no running away from stuff, just relaxing and letting the panic attack have its way.

As soon as you do this the panic attack goes away, its quite extraordinary. You no longer fear panic attacks, and in turn they just stop eventualy.

Anyway it worked for me, and while this guys experainced seemed nothing like the ones i used to have, i felt it was relevent to post this here as it might help somebody.

[cleft_asunder]

Ashyr, will you please post the info you think got you in trouble?

[ashyr]

I've had experiences like yours except that I am literally frozen stiff. It takes all the energy I can possibly muster to just lift an eyelid, I get that loud noise of energy that you described...I don't know what it is but I think I am having a seizure when it happens.


yeah man. i was trying to continue talking to the 2 people with me conforting me. i had to talk otherwise i was going to be taken over by it. i was fully just tallking and talkin. comparing it to things i know. saying how i felt

the whole time i was convulsing. they were trying to stop me shaking like a spastic,

..


to the person who said about the KUNDALINI and sparks.

the times i goto cemetaries after dark and have visitations in the night etc. i get the same thing. the burning ball in my chest. the spark and i start to shake uncontrolable. like im frozen stiff. but im burning in my chest like my core. but im freezing on the outside. then after i EXPELL it. i feel drained or like some magicians or people do in rituals. its truely something

the weird thing is that i only get these things when i kinda envoke it.

sometimes i do what i call "CONSIOUS CREATIVE CONUNDRUM"

when u get 2 or more people and you bounce ideas and thoughts around in a WIRLPOOL of thoughts but there basically infront of you in energy and u envoke that same BALL OF ENERGY. usually the weak link int he chain breaks it by iether. "giving up" or "folding" "walking away" leaves me expelled and shaking like im having a FIT.

but the weird thing about this was it just came on. there was a TV program on the tv at the time "WATERLOO ROAD" i cant remember anything about it. didnt really watch it cause i was posting that stuff about CHARLIE ADAMS when 2 seconds after logging of it happend. i asked my girl what was on the tv. what happend. what was going on the TV when it happend. ruling out maybe a TV trigger? but yeah man

im sorry to post this thread saying im giving up. it was just a shock reaction i spose. man the fear of something so powerful like that can just do that. you kinda wonder what else could happen.

the whole tightrope of life and death rings true. so much you guys have posted here makes alot of sense.

and im not going to rule out PANIC ATTACK OR ANXIETY either. because they are relative explanations.

yet also i dont think ive ever had a mental breakdown as such or panic attacks in my life. i have Attention deficit disorder. and some people even say i have mild case of aspergus syndrome? so yeah i never get stressed. im always chirpy and happy unless i want to feel different. many ppl get really pissed off at me cause i dont feel the 9-5 stress like they do. they say things like "rob fuck you man, how can u just be like that. why are you always happy. you never down man,"

yeah ill keep on keeping on. like my greatest motto is "anything that presents itself like this is just a further confirmation of it actually existing" thats why i thought being into this whole david icke or even the whole spiritual/concept/conspiracy/underworld whatever you call it. you would experience less and less of these things because your aware and they dont want to show you they are there so they avoid people like us?

[28th kingdom]

Ashyr... yer fight is NOT against some secret police in unmarked vehicles... it is an internal battle between love and fear... so which side will you serve?

Will it be love... or will you let fear be yer master?

[ashyr]

ohhhhhhh you want me to post that info lol

ohhh is that tempting fate? ok here goes.

[ashyr]

Look. why is this constantly being deleted? why is it that the NZSIS is covering this shit up.

Disturbing revelations are slowly coming to light. The informtion that has been produced so far that a man by the name of Charlie Armstrong Adams fled Sydney on the day the FBI opened office in Sydney. Numerous assassination attempts were made on Charlie Armstrong Adams life that were made to look like complex accidents.


Charlie had information that a terroist attack was to take place in New Zealand early in the year to scare citizens to vote for John Howard who is all for the war in Iraq. Charlie claims he was set up on assault charges and placed into a mental institution for the sake of loading him up on drugs. He was interviewed by a inderpendant psychologist and released. Charlie did not tell the psychologist about what went on in that 5 days of illegal incarceration without access to a lawyer in fear the psychologist would think he was crazy. Charlie new these tricks were designed to ensnare him.

He was then placed on work party woth other supposed sentanced people who would mention things fron his past and intimidate him. And on the street the same. Even the accomadation he was harrassed. It seems the goverment were trying to flush him out of the New Zealand not giving the court case a chance and the truth about what really was gonig on. The NZSIS bashed him giving him a swollen face and black eyes. Charlie found refuge in a chuch elders home. When all this was going on a CIA plane was parked at Wellington Airport with hundreds of agent's and staff supposedly here for the NZSIS 50 th Birthday. Why so many people including the director of the CIA? ASIO, MI5, ,MI6 and the CSIS were all in New Zealand. Reports of saddam's baath party members were in New Zealand at the same.

I simply can not understand if nothing rotten is going on, then why cant this all be transparent? I have noticed many people are claiming Charlie Adams is mentally ill. It seem a lit ...

[deca]

check the Symptoms out
http://www.mindcontrol-victims.eu/

also http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617

ok, this shit is real ok and more people are suffering seems to be an increase since 2004.




ps the perps are have took the piss and tried out a reptilian fake voice out on me sort of water gergally sound.

[cleft_asunder]

Look. why is this constantly being deleted? why is it that the NZSIS is covering this shit up.

Thanks but... where's the rest?:confused:

[ashyr]

wtf. this forums gone mental. all these posts are showing up on 1 page. can you not see the rest of the info.

? i posed like over 200 words

[ashyr]

your joking right? you can see the massive quote paste i made its like 1 whole screens worth

[cleft_asunder]

your joking right? you can see the massive quote paste i made its like 1 whole screens worth

No, it ends here:

I simply can not understand if nothing rotten is going on, then why cant this all be transparent? I have noticed many people are claiming Charlie Adams is mentally ill. It seem a lit ...

Nothing more. Why don't you just post the whole think minus the quote tag?

[ashyr]

its being deleted again.

man this is bizarre. i cant find the rest of it.

wtf do you think is going on ?

[28th kingdom]

Ashyr... I think yer just imagining things.

http://messageboards.aol.co.uk/aol/en_gb/articles.php?boardId=441993&func=5&articleId=780&channel=uknews&ignoreKillFile=1

[herebynightfall]

troll.

stfu about this shite. and dont worry.

shit happens. deal and move on.

or else how else can things get better ?

[ashyr]

okay . whatever.


im on top of it.

so yeah move on i guess. =D


thanks everyone

[herebynightfall]

leave the thread on a good note.

and if you leave here with a little bit more understanding than you came in with.

than good on you, and congrats.

that's what we're here for.

for eachother.

this is my place of solice lately.

and it lifts me up almost always, when i am down, or question whether or not i want to step back into the matrix dreamworld.

[oceanwave]

leave the thread on a good note.

and if you leave here with a little bit more understanding than you came in with.

than good on you, and congrats.

that's what we're here for.

for eachother.

this is my place of solice lately.

and it lifts me up almost always, when i am down, or question whether or not i want to step back into the matrix dreamworld.

but, but...

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/787/cypherim5.jpg

it tastes so damn good!

;)

[limelady]

I know I'm coming in here from a totally different angle here, but the symtoms ashyr described sound almost identical to the list of symptoms a friend told me she experiences immediately prior to and during an epileptic fit.

I'm not a big fan of doctors, but they are useful for diagnosing (via medical tests) certain medical conditions, so if this 'attack' ever happens again ashyr, I'd be incllined to see a doctor for tests, if for no other reason than to rule out the possibility that you may have developed epilepsy.

LL :)

[herebynightfall]

but, but...

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/787/cypherim5.jpg

it tastes so damn good!

;)

funny, i had that scene in my head as i wrote that.

the wachowski brothers really knew their stuff.

for they went through it all as we are now.

and they know the bigger picture to.

and how hard it is. when its tough in the real world, not when its tough in the matrix.

because with great power (comparitively)
comes great responsibility.

[oceanwave]

funny, i had that scene in my head as i wrote that.

the wachowski brothers really knew their stuff.

for they went through it all as we are now.

and they know the bigger picture to.

and how hard it is. when its tough in the real world, not when its tough in the matrix.

because with great power (comparitively)
comes great responsibility.

indeed,..

i'd like to pose a question (which doesn't require an answer)

the real world is the external, and the 'matrix' is the internal

why is it we are focussed on the real and not the matrix?...

hmm, fish for thought (hehee)

;)

[herebynightfall]

the real world and the matrix consist of the same content, and substance.

it's just perception of possibilities and limitations from different perspectives.

those of the real world not being anymore internal or external as those is in the matrix. both having the same capabilities, just not realizing it due to limitations and boundaries from birth.

the real world must be relearned. reinvented, and then known.

[strider]

Call me paranoid or delusional or mental whatever.

last night I think i got to close to something, I was following a subject that is being covered up in my country (seriously) and i found all the articles i was replying to and checking fastly being destroyed and removed from the NET.
so luckily i had a copy of some of the info so i reposted it.
i then sat down on the couch with my girl.
i started to feel a tad bizaare like i was really hot but going to faint.
so i stood up and went for the outside door for some cold air.
i got there and the sensation seemed to disapear.
i then returned back to the seat and as soon as i sat down i realised it wasnt disapeared it was coming on stronger than ever.

i ran for the door this time. as i got towards the door. my vision was disapearing, and i lost my legs. they went all jelly and i managed to get to the door. i told my girl i dont feel to good, then i was outside. i was leaving my body, i seriously thought i was dying. so i heard my girl running over the room towards me, this is when i was thinking "this might be the last moment of my conciousness" so i said "call an ambulance" and i crumbled on the ground.
thats when it hit me.

something (spiritually,or mental, or sonic attack) just engrossed my hole body. my body was all fuzzy all round me, my vision disolved, my thing i have is a big ringing from all my kundalini energy, but this was like 2 million times louder than ever. my head was like an electric microphone, it seriously felt like someone had shoved a gigantic GLASS tube right thru my head. everything was so increased in intensity and clarity. but not volume, by that time my girl had ran and got the neighbour because this was definatly serious. but i could hear everything, but there was no LEFT OR RIGHT. if i heard something it was all around me. there was no hearing a noise in left ear. it was equal sides of me. i then said to my girl "someones attacking me, something, some weapon or sound thing its attacking me, whats going on, can u hear that, is it just me,"
then the neighbour appeared. and i forced myself to throw up incase it was poison or something. by the time the neighbour appeared i was covered invomit and shaking uncontrollable i was dilerious, out of it. they were all so concerned. now i began to come back, things began to get less intense. but the TUBULAR SOUND thru my head didnt disapear. now its been like 12 hours and i suppose ive got used to that SOUND i can definaltly hear it still now.

this i cannot explain. i'm seriously freaked me the hell out. and you all know me very well. im very strong with this stuff, but nothing like this has ever happend on this scale before. i was so far gone. so far out of my comfort zone.

something is after me. something attacked me. i dont know what it was

i think its either 1 of 4 things.
1. "directly related to the info i reposted (when i shouldnt have?)
2. "a sonic weapon or new kind of mind control device"
3 "some kind of subconcious programming, triggered by a tv or something?"
4 "something to do with the ormus because its coming up to the 9month period"

anyway im taking precautions. and i know someone is following me. i was followed by a unmarked police car with a blueshirt driving, he drove past thismorning before i left my girls place and he fully looked at me when he drove past. then i left and came home. now im clearing my computer and database of all this stuff. im going to burn a CD and hide it and then im out. i dont want to be a victim of this shit. and its in my best interest to stop posting on this site or the next attack might be very serious.

thank you all . youve been great. and i hope you all continue to push the limits.

i cant fully say i will not post or visit this site again .maybe ill keep readin but im not making my presense known for safety sake =D. thank you

Dude, from what you have described, it sounds like you were either introduced to kundalini energy for real, or had a massive 'upgrade' in a short space of time. Or it could be neither.

If it is to do with your kundalini, then I know it can seem like a bit of a trauma, and it doesn't get much easier for a while. I was very unceremoniously introduced at the tender age of 17 and it took me a while to even begin to re-adjust, and then a lot longer to find out what it actually was.

For ages, I had a really nasty ringing noise, felt weak and felt far too aware of my surroundings, amongst a whole host of other things. My vision and hearing changed dramatically, my senses were magnified big time, whether it was a good or bad sensation and it felt like my mind was racing at 100mph, 24 hours a day. I even had experiences of everything slowing down, things making noises (even doors and walls for god sake :) ) But thank god, it eventually calmed down.

I hope it is your kundalini as you're in for a very exciting ride :D but if not then I'm sorry I can't help you, i just thought I would stick my oar in as I know that if it is kundalini then I might have some useful info..

[oceanwave]

the real world and the matrix consist of the same content, and substance.

it's just perception of possibilities and limitations from different perspectives.

those of the real world not being anymore internal or external as those is in the matrix. both having the same capabilities, just not realizing it due to limitations and boundaries from birth.

the real world must be relearned. reinvented, and then known.

spot on!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

Hed had an entity attached to him, it was psychic attack.

[nickatnoon61]

spot on!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif
now ur talkin Ow........stay there....when I sobewr up......I'll get back to ya..........Kennedy..and still ,livin..................:eek:

[ashyr]

heh. the first thing that came to my mind was the whole orme thing. i am very aware of the kundalini. and since starting orme awareness 8 or 9 years ago. i started taking it 9 months ago. if you know about orme you know about the connection to kundalini and its major amplitude. the big ring. vision thing. the only thing i can directly compare it to. is that of kundalini. its actually really crazy you said. massive upgrade. thats probably the 2nd thought that raced through nz head. so was i attacked by myself? thats a whole new perspective. please share with me what you know about k energy and its timeline. btw thanks to all the replyr and support. its so wonderful to have co army of thought.

[ashyr]

just to add. i had a energy session wit binhdinh. helped me equalise my energy. i think i have a major blockage in my neck shoulder area. but also we found there was a definate feeling of oppression surrounding my spirit. thanks mate. you really helped. btw just want to add. don't call me a troll. i recently found out what that is. and also ignore the typing mistakes im browsing and replying via my mobile. sometimes my becomes nz.

[kblood]

Just out of curiousity... what kind of mobile are you using to write on this forum? Is it a phone or a mobile computer? I am trying to find the phone that has a few more functions that I would like to have on the phone instead of having to use a laptop...

Sorry about that unrelated part. Good to hear about you getting a bit better Ashyr :) I am a bit busy these days, so not much on this forum anymore. Compared to being here 10 times a day at least ;)

[ashyr]

yeah a mobile phone. i'm more than just a pretty face. i can tell you this much. i have free just about everything on my awesome mobile. its not even a windows mobile. nor is it a iphone. i've used my incredible genius to hack vodafone. ill recammend you some if you wanna pm me. seeing is believing. heh its all part of my incredible skills.

[supertzar]

Maybe your shit is getting fucked up because you are into satanism and shit.

[ashyr]

hey no maybe!

[james777]

Call me paranoid or delusional or mental whatever.

last night I think i got to close to something, I was following a subject that is being covered up in my country (seriously) and i found all the articles i was replying to and checking fastly being destroyed and removed from the NET.
so luckily i had a copy of some of the info so i reposted it.
i then sat down on the couch with my girl.
i started to feel a tad bizaare like i was really hot but going to faint.
so i stood up and went for the outside door for some cold air.
i got there and the sensation seemed to disapear.
i then returned back to the seat and as soon as i sat down i realised it wasnt disapeared it was coming on stronger than ever.

i ran for the door this time. as i got towards the door. my vision was disapearing, and i lost my legs. they went all jelly and i managed to get to the door. i told my girl i dont feel to good, then i was outside. i was leaving my body, i seriously thought i was dying. so i heard my girl running over the room towards me, this is when i was thinking "this might be the last moment of my conciousness" so i said "call an ambulance" and i crumbled on the ground.
thats when it hit me.

something (spiritually,or mental, or sonic attack) just engrossed my hole body. my body was all fuzzy all round me, my vision disolved, my thing i have is a big ringing from all my kundalini energy, but this was like 2 million times louder than ever. my head was like an electric microphone, it seriously felt like someone had shoved a gigantic GLASS tube right thru my head. everything was so increased in intensity and clarity. but not volume, by that time my girl had ran and got the neighbour because this was definatly serious. but i could hear everything, but there was no LEFT OR RIGHT. if i heard something it was all around me. there was no hearing a noise in left ear. it was equal sides of me. i then said to my girl "someones attacking me, something, some weapon or sound thing its attacking me, whats going on, can u hear that, is it just me,"
then the neighbour appeared. and i forced myself to throw up incase it was poison or something. by the time the neighbour appeared i was covered invomit and shaking uncontrollable i was dilerious, out of it. they were all so concerned. now i began to come back, things began to get less intense. but the TUBULAR SOUND thru my head didnt disapear. now its been like 12 hours and i suppose ive got used to that SOUND i can definaltly hear it still now.

this i cannot explain. i'm seriously freaked me the hell out. and you all know me very well. im very strong with this stuff, but nothing like this has ever happend on this scale before. i was so far gone. so far out of my comfort zone.

something is after me. something attacked me. i dont know what it was

i think its either 1 of 4 things.
1. "directly related to the info i reposted (when i shouldnt have?)
2. "a sonic weapon or new kind of mind control device"
3 "some kind of subconcious programming, triggered by a tv or something?"
4 "something to do with the ormus because its coming up to the 9month period"

anyway im taking precautions. and i know someone is following me. i was followed by a unmarked police car with a blueshirt driving, he drove past thismorning before i left my girls place and he fully looked at me when he drove past. then i left and came home. now im clearing my computer and database of all this stuff. im going to burn a CD and hide it and then im out. i dont want to be a victim of this shit. and its in my best interest to stop posting on this site or the next attack might be very serious.

thank you all . youve been great. and i hope you all continue to push the limits.

i cant fully say i will not post or visit this site again .maybe ill keep readin but im not making my presense known for safety sake =D. thank you


I'm no professional, but it does sound like MK Ultra has penetrated your mind.........you may want to read up on 'Lake Meade' and take a serious look at where and what your childhood was......there could be a connection here......I'll tell you that 'Lake Meade' will appear like a closed down US Air Force base.......but look deeper!!

[ashyr]

what on earth do you mean. i live in new zealand.

[yinon]

Who the fuck are you????

The unatural Dora with her numerous ennemies ????????

Fu,k - She is a part of all of us but not that much

[lottie]

This is actually a decent thread- dont let it end up in the rant room guys...im sure Ashyr wont appreciate it being highjacked by personal insults thrown about.....

Cheers :)

[nickatnoon61]

Maybe your shit is getting fucked up because you are into satanism and shit.

EXACTLY Supertzar!!!!

[ashyr]

you cant turn me.

so dont even try.

fools.

[bennett211085]

I had something like this happen to me whilst laying in bed asleep. I awoke feeling extremely ill and after a while I couldnt even move or get out of bed cause it felt so bad to move. Then everytime I shut my eyes I could feel myself slipping away, and eventually I did and it was an idescribable mental confusion that felt like my brain was bieng interfered and reprogrammed??!. It was deffinently real and it scared the shit out of me!. Either I'd fully lost my mind and was about to die, slip into deep permanent brain damage, or what I thourght was going on which was being attacked with some type of weapon!

The whole thing didnt last more then an hour with me anyway, but still really shock me up.