to you, my brothers and sisters

[herebynightfall]

Jesus, from nazareth, was a pretty intelligent fellow.

For he called the people of his time, all people in his time,

called them his brothers and sisters.

He clearly was on a higher level of conciousness than most people of his time.

Which is nothing that should be worshipped. Though I appreciate him sending signals from our homeland of conciousness, as he tried to spread clarity amongst his peers, who knew not that they were his peers, because they could not do or think like he could.

Such as David Icke is in this day. People flock to him, because his message is so great. Great at least, in the perspective of those that are unaware of themselves.

But people who are aware, do not see their connection to David as a teacher/student relationship.

But more of a completely PEER relationship.

I'm grateful that I've picked up David's signal that he has sent from the TRUE HOMELAND, that is conciousness.

And being awake, I see a fellow being, bearing the weight of the world on his shoulder's, using his undying energy to emit the power of love throughout the grid. And I respect the notion of what that man is doing so effing much.

INFINITY, itself, is the only truth
and LOVE is a really good option

(art and whacky inutitiveness are great options to)

[synergy777]

yashuah/yeshua of nazareth was very good person. have you read the dead sea stuff, essenes.

[synergy777]

The Arab Capital of Israel

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0377-919X(199621)25%3A3%3C103%3ATACOI%3E2.0.CO%3B2-H


http://www.domqom.com/

"As I would not be a slave, I would not be a master." Abraham Lincoln

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html

it could be yashuah the nazarite, or nazareth a family/village name?


http://www.plands.org/maps/nazareth.htm

nazareth and bethelem are palestinian places, so is jerusalem, salem/peace, maybe jeru-salem, city of peace?

[auron]

http://www.mikebogo.com/images/jesus.jpg

[synergy777]

Nazareth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Etymology
see also: Gennesaret (Ya-Nezareth)
The etymology of Nazareth from as early as Eusebius up until the 20th century has been said to derive from netser, a "shoot" or "sprout", while the apocryphal Gospel of Phillip derives the name from Nazara meaning "truth".[2] There is speculation and biblical indication that Nazarene meaning "of the village of Nazareth", was confused with "Nazirite," meaning a "separated" Jew who had taken a vow of holiness

Nazirite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A nazirite or nazarite, (in Hebrew: נזיר, nazir), refers to a Jew who took an ascetic vow described in Numbers 6:1-21. The term "nazirite" comes from the Hebrew word nazir meaning "consecrated" or "separated".[1] This vow required the man or woman to:

Abstain from wine, wine vinegar, grapes, raisins, and according to some - alcohol and vinegar from alcohol
Refrain from cutting the hair on one's head
Avoid corpses and graves, even those of family members, and any structure which contains such
After following these requirements for a designated period of time (which would be specified in the individual's vow, and not to be less than 30 days), the person would immerse in a Mikvah and make three offerings, a lamb as a "burnt offering" (olah), a ewe as a "sin offering" (hatat), and a ram as a "peace offering" (shelamim), in addition to a basket of unleavened bread, grain offerings and drink offerings, which accompanied the peace offering.


Nazarene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Essenes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Essenes (sg. Essene, IPA: [ɛˈsin], possibly from the Aramaic Yssyn, healer[1]) were a Judaic religious group that flourished from the 2nd century BC to the 1st century AD. Many scholars today argue that there were a number of separate but related groups that had in common mystic, eschatological, messianic, and ascetic beliefs that were referred to as the "Essenes".

Contemporary ancient sources
The main source of information about the life and belief of Essenes is the detailed account contained in a work of the 1st century Jewish historiographer Flavius Josephus entitled The Jewish War written about 73-75 AD (War 2.119-161) and his shorter description in his Antiquities of the Jews finished some 20 years later (Ant. 18.11 & 18-22). Claiming first hand knowledge (Life §§10-11), he refers to them by the name Essenoi and lists them as the followers of one of the three sects in "Jewish Philosophy'" (War 2.119) alongside the Pharisees and the Sadducees. The only other known contemporary accounts about the Essenes are two similarly detailed ones by the Jewish philosopher Philo (fl. c. 20 AD - c. 54 AD; Quod Omnis Probus Liber Sit XII.75-87, and the excerpt from his Hypothetica 11.1-18 preserved by Eusebius, Praep. Evang. Bk VIII), who, however, admits to not being quite certain of the Greek form of their name that he recalls as Essaioi (Quod Omn. Prob. XII.75), the brief reference to them by the Roman equestrian Pliny the Elder (fl. 23 AD - 79 AD; Natural History, Bk 5.73). Pliny, also a geographer and explorer, located them in the desert near the northwestern shore of the Dead Sea, where the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in 1947.

The Dead Sea Scrolls, found in caves at Qumran, are widely believed to be the work of Essenes or to reflect Essene beliefs. See below.


Name
Josephus uses the name Essenes in his two main accounts (War 2.119, 158, 160; Ant. 13.171-2) as well as in some other contexts ("an account of the Essenes", Ant. 13.298; "the gate of the Essenes", War 5.145; "Judas of the Essene race", Ant. 13.311, but some manuscripts read here Essaion; "holding the Essenes in honour", Ant. 15.372; "a certain Essene named Manaemus", Ant. 15.373; "to hold all Essenes in honour", Ant. 15.378; "the Essenes", Ant. 18.11 & 18; Life 10). In several places, however, Josephus has Essaios, which is usually assumed to mean Essene ("Judas of the Essaios race", War I.78; "Simon of the Essaios race", War 2.113; "John the Essaios", War 2.567; 3.11; "those who are called by us Essaioi", Ant. 15.371; "Simon a man of the Essaios race", Ant. 17.346). Philo's usage is Essaioi, although he admits this Greek form of the original name that according to his etymology signifies "holiness" to be inexact (NH XII.75). Pliny's Latin text has Esseni. Josephus identified the Essenes as one of the three major Jewish sects of that period.

According to a controversial view put forward by Dead Sea Scrolls Scholar Géza Vermes, both Josephus and Philo pronounced the Essenes' name as "Esaoin", which means in Arabic followers of "Esa", which Vermes says is the name of Jesus according to the most ancient mosaic portrait found in Turkey dated 70 A.D. which says underneath "Esa our Lord". Mainstream scholars usually stress a number of fundamental differences between Dead Sea Scroll theology and early Christian theology to argue that the Essenes cannot be considered identical to any kind of Christianity.

In Eerdman's Beyond the Essene Hypothesis, Gabriele Boccaccini (p.47) implies that a convincing etymology for the name Essene has not been found, but that the term applies to a larger group within Palestine that also included the Qumran community.

It is possible that the Talmudic statement (Kiddushin Ch. 4) "the best of the physicians will go to hell" were referring to the Essenes. The Talmudic term for healer is Assia. (Reuvein Margolies Toldot Ha'Adam)


Location
According to Josephus the Essenes had settled "not in one city" but "in large numbers in every town" (War 2.124). Philo speaks of "more than four thousand" Essaioi living in "Palestinian Syria" (Quod Omn. Prob. XII.75), more precisely, "in many cities of Judaea and in many villages and grouped in great societies of many members" (Hyp. 11.1).

Pliny locates them "on the west side of the Dead Sea, away from the coast ... [above] the town of Engeda"

Some modern scholars and archeologists have argued that Essenes inhabited the settlement at Qumran, a plateau in the Judean Desert along the Dead Sea, citing Pliny the Elder in support, and giving credence that the Dead Sea Scrolls are the product of the Essenes. This view, though not yet conclusively proven, has come to dominate the scholarly discussion and public perception of the Essenes.

Josephus' reference to a "gate of the Essenes" in the Temple Mount perhaps suggests an Essene community living in this quarter of the city or regularly gathering at this part of the Temple precincts.

Asceticism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sadhus, men believed to be holy, are known for the extreme forms of self-denial they occasionally practice. These include extreme acts of devotion to a deity or principle, such as vowing never to use one leg or the other, or to hold an arm in the air for a period of months or years. The particular types of asceticism involved vary from sect to sect, and from holy man to holy man. Rules and Regulations of Brahmanical Asceticism - Yatidharmasamuccaya of Yadava Prakasa/ Translated by Patrick Olivelle (Sri Satguru Publications/ Delhi) is a must read book in this context.

Sadhu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Etymology

The Sanskrit terms sādhu ("good man") and sādhvī ("good woman") refer to renouncers who have chosen to live a life apart from or on the edges of society in order to focus on their own spiritual practice.[2]

The words come from the Sanskrit root sādh, which means "reach one's goal", "make straight", or "gain power over".[3] The same root is used in the word sādhana, which means "spiritual practice".


now yashuah was nazarite/asetic, living like the saddhus/buddhists of india, doing yoga, etc, before he started his ministry, imho.

[herebynightfall]

synergy, i don't want to know all of that information about jesus.

i simply was stating that we are all the same, no one more important than another, it only seems that way when we are asleep before we wake up.

Jesus is only big, because he was a concious being who's been exploited, and foolishly worshipped, instead of emulated at the same level he was working on in this world.

I personally feel on par with everybody else. even that Yeshewa man.

I've just tapped into my potentiality. As he did too.

[synergy777]

i was trying to show you thats jesus/yashuah, was like the spiritual people of today, eg yoga, etc. you never see this in the bible. so the people who move away from him, can see the very spiritual things they do to unlock their potential eg meditation, compassion, is exactly what he did. so when people go leftfield, and try the chakra stuff, etc, are doing what he wanted us to do. this is why organised religion hides this, they don't want you unlock your potential, like he wanted you to do.

[herebynightfall]

yeah okay syn.
pretty much exactly that, actually.


i wasn't understand you with all that info charge in the other posts lol.


http://www.derykthomas.com/artwork/img/infinity.jpg

[synergy777]

its all good, i tried to make it flow, like a chart. one thing to another. its all good.

[herebynightfall]

yep

while they choose to flip a coin


i roll the dice ;o)

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/fs19/300W/f/2007/243/3/1/kosci_by_milicja.jpg

[kashmirz]

amen to that

[synergy777]

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3220/ghandhiqr5.jpg

[herebynightfall]

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/216/e/a/If_Jesus____by_Rikkenian.jpg

[tejas]

Well said well put :)

INFINITY, itself, is the only truth
and LOVE is a really good option

[foreverspirit]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazareth

Abstain from wine, wine vinegar, grapes, raisins, and according to some - alcohol and vinegar from alcohol
Refrain from cutting the hair on one's head
Avoid corpses and graves, even those of family members, and any structure which contains such
After following these requirements for a designated period of time (which would be specified in the individual's vow, and not to be less than 30 days), the person would immerse in a Mikvah and make three offerings, a lamb as a "burnt offering" (olah), a ewe as a "sin offering" (hatat), and a ram as a "peace offering" (shelamim), in addition to a basket of unleavened bread, grain offerings and drink offerings, which accompanied the peace offering.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes

[/B]



With all due respect, abstain from natural life giving foods for 30 days and then go out and cause torture and suffering to and by killing an animal? How freakin retarded are these folks who have written these words. Simply mind boggling!!

I am overcome with chuckling!! But I am willing to be schooled!!:cool:

Oh Yeah, Wikpedia????