Help! My nephew is to be named MASON!

[therealedeal]

My sister wants to name her first born Mason!

She knows nothing of the secret society, nor their corrupt ways!!

Can anyone guide me to the best and easy to follow anti-mason videos!

Please help!

Thanks!

[boots]

This thread started in general might help.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058346900#post1058346900



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[keystone]

Juri Lina makes extremely interesting reading but you have to read it.

Cheers

[stevepenny]

My sister wants to name her first born Mason!

She knows nothing of the secret society, nor their corrupt ways!!

Can anyone guide me to the best and easy to follow anti-mason videos!

Please help!

Thanks!

You can run, but you can't hide....;)

You know we'll get you in the end so best give it up now or we'll set the goats on you ;)

[therealedeal]

You can run, but you can't hide....;)

You know we'll get you in the end so best give it up now or we'll set the goats on you ;)

I do not run.

I stand.

I do not hide.

I have no secrets.

[keystone]

I do not run.

I stand.

I do not hide.

I have no secrets.I think he was taking the piss just a little bit actually. LoL.

Cheers

[therealedeal]

Why do you guys bother?

This is a serious thread for me.

I need help in convincing my sister not to do what she is about to do.

She doesn't know any better.

I will not be able to socialise with the word Mason being called out and used in conversation.

This topic may offend you.

But its more offensive to me that you think the breakdown of a sibling relationship is something to be joked about.

[keystone]

OK this post is by way of trying to help by analysing your situation - so don't go off the deep end begfore you've digested what I've written please.

I need help in convincing my sister not to do what she is about to do.Why - because it offends you? Aren't you disrespecting your sister in this?

She doesn't know any better.Looking in the mirror works both ways.

I will not be able to socialise with the word Mason being called out and used in conversation.So it does offend you and its actually a me, me, me situation rather than concern for your sister and your nephew.

This topic may offend you.Not at all.

But its more offensive to me that you think the breakdown of a sibling relationship is something to be joked about.Absolutely not but it seems to me that you are hell bent on breaking down this relationship over something which really has nothing to do with you. Its her son and her decision what she calls him. Is it not?

Cheers

[therealedeal]

OK this post is by way of trying to help by analysing your situation - so don't go off the deep end begfore you've digested what I've written please.

Why - because it offends you? Aren't you disrespecting your sister in this?

No, she has simply stated "I like the name", she read it in a name book. She does not know of the Freemasons or their history.

Looking in the mirror works both ways.

So it does offend you and its actually a me, me, me situation rather than concern for your sister and your nephew.

The word mason makes me feel angry. I do no wish to change all my beliefs and morals due to a whimsical decision.

Not at all.

Absolutely not but it seems to me that you are hell bent on breaking down this relationship over something which really has nothing to do with you. Its her son and her decision what she calls him. Is it not?

Absolutely it is. But there are consequences to decisions. The consequence here is that I will not be able to be the loving uncle/brother I want to be.

Cheers

Its simple really. Its not that I wish to change her mind. Its that I want to offer her a basic explanation of my opinion, and that there will be consequences of the decision.

[stevepenny]

Its simple really. Its not that I wish to change her mind. Its that I want to offer her a basic explanation of my opinion, and that there will be consequences of the decision.

In all seriousness; if the name is that important to you then why not just talk to her and ask her to reconsider.

Alternatively you could just for one minute, put the prejustice to one side, and try to find out a little more about Freemasonry.

You mentioned guys at work who 'hate you', is it because they are Freemasons or simply that they don't like you. Do you hate them because they are Freemasons or because you just don't like them?

I'm not sure what country you are in but if your sister named her son after a player in a local football (soccer) team that you didn't support; would you still be as anti?

As regards showing her an anti-mason video; how is that putting a balanced argument to her?

Why not suggest MASUN which is a French name for a stone worker?

[size_of_light]

Its simple really. Its not that I wish to change her mind. Its that I want to offer her a basic explanation of my opinion, and that there will be consequences of the decision.

Simple.

Show her the search results for "masons are evil".

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=%22masons+are+evil%22&meta=&fp=2b6a54a9ce7131a8

There's 97,300 results.

Before any Masons on here jump in - the point isn't whether or not Masonry is evil. The point is how to dissuade somebody from naming their kid 'Mason'.

[decim]

A CRAFTSMAN you mean, some one proficient in working Stone & actually builds structures with Stone.

As a opposed to a freemason who is proficient only in the wallet & the wearing of jewels, kind of like a christmas tree.

The christmas tree non mason masons.



Why not suggest MASUN which is a French name for a stone worker?

[therealedeal]

In all seriousness; if the name is that important to you then why not just talk to her and ask her to reconsider.

I have. I do not want to have to tell her I will not be calling her son Mason. Or that If I hear the word, I will end the conversation. She is irrational and will not understand my view if I tell her this.

Alternatively you could just for one minute, put the prejustice to one side, and try to find out a little more about Freemasonry.

I know enough. I do not need/want any extra information. I just want some basic videos that explain their corrupt ways.

You mentioned guys at work who 'hate you', is it because they are Freemasons or simply that they don't like you. Do you hate them because they are Freemasons or because you just don't like them?

Either, either. I do not like secrets, I do not like people who keep secrets. I do not like Freemasons. I do not like people who suck up to them because they have power/control.

I'm not sure what country you are in but if your sister named her son after a player in a local football (soccer) team that you didn't support; would you still be as anti?

No. Any name is fine. Except Mason. I would prefer Adolf over Mason.

As regards showing her an anti-mason video; how is that putting a balanced argument to her?

I do not want to present a balanced argument, I want her to understand THAT I DO NOT LIKE MASONS. Is it really that hard to understand?

Why not suggest MASUN which is a French name for a stone worker?

That is ridiculous. The spelling does not change the phoenetic sound of the word.



Again, simple.

Do not try to change my mind.

[mike martin]

A CRAFTSMAN you mean, some one proficient in working Stone & actually builds structures with Stone.
Hmm, I feel kinda sorry for all those Artists, Carpenters, Painters, Plasterers, Joiners, Masons, Bricklayers, Stione workers, Blacksmiths, Jewellers etc (all of whom are "Craftsmen" as they learn and practise a "craft") that your little made-up definition leaves out.

This of course being what the word "Craftsman" actually means in the real world. A craftsman or craftswoman is an artisan who practises a handicraft or trade.

Mike

[mike martin]

Why do you guys bother?

This is a serious thread for me.

I need help in convincing my sister not to do what she is about to do.

She doesn't know any better.

I will not be able to socialise with the word Mason being called out and used in conversation.

This topic may offend you.

But its more offensive to me that you think the breakdown of a sibling relationship is something to be joked about.

Mediiiic

Mike

[decim]

Freemason Implying, Someone who is Free & a MASON.

A MASON, someone who works with STONE, you amateur dramatics DO Not Work with STONE, as you have Admitted more than Once..

The non masonry masons.

FAKES

Hmm, I feel kinda sorry for all those Artists, Carpenters, Painters, Plasterers, Joiners, Masons, Bricklayers, Stione workers, Blacksmiths, Jewellers etc (all of whom are "Craftsmen" as they learn and practise a "craft") that your little made-up definition leaves out.

This of course being what the word "Craftsman" actually means in the real world. A craftsman or craftswoman is an artisan who practises a handicraft or trade.

Mike

[se19_london]

My sister wants to name her first born Mason!

She knows nothing of the secret society, nor their corrupt ways!!

Can anyone guide me to the best and easy to follow anti-mason videos!

Please help!

Thanks!

I wouldnt worry too much - it's just a new "trendy" styled name that seems to be the in thing at the moment....

On the positive side.....she could have opted for apple, hudson or to my horror....my god-daughters name....LONDON!! :S

[stevepenny]

Freemason Implying, Someone who is Free & a MASON.

A MASON, someone who works with STONE, you amateur dramatics DO Not Work with STONE, as you have Admitted more than Once..

The non masonry masons.

FAKES

http://www.myspace.com/alterati

Decim - About me:

This is a statement, not an appeal. Most great art movements, like surrealism, dada, or situationism all started with a manifesto, a statement of position. Here is our position: We are already here. The proscenium has been breached, disbanded and dismantled. Information networks span the globe, and cultures, ideas, and realities are converging and being redefined minute-by-minute.

Decim - Who I'd like to meet:

This revolution will not be broadcast, although it may be televised, on demand, portable and configurable— but it will be your choice. Possibly, it will be your creation. Remember the Future of “no future”? Well, this is it. That’s not a statement of doom. It’s an expression of freedom. Kill your clocks, burn your calendars, and hang out. Alterati has built the platform. All you need do is show up.

47 and single...now why am I not surprised ;) Toooooo much LSD in the 60's and 70's........

[decim]

Steve penny - about me

I am a non masonry mason, I one day hope to build solomons temple from stickle bricks & playdoh..

Steve penny - the one I'd like to meet

I renounce zionism secret nepotism & wanting to build jewish temples from stickle bricks & playdoh, I like a pint of heavy, porridge & don't wear skirts.
Non masonry masons have built a power structure of subversion lies, war & criminal enterprise which is now crumbling. All you have to do is set yourself free by telling your story to the worlds press.

Fat 40 something, living with mum, feeding on deep fried mars bars & Buckfast, supporting St Mirren intermittently for 3 decades.

Nb. wrong age, wrong status, wrong drug, Nil pointe.

Louis Prima - Just a gigolo - YouTube

http://www.myspace.com/alterati

Decim - About me:

This is a statement, not an appeal. Most great art movements, like surrealism, dada, or situationism all started with a manifesto, a statement of position. Here is our position: We are already here. The proscenium has been breached, disbanded and dismantled. Information networks span the globe, and cultures, ideas, and realities are converging and being redefined minute-by-minute.

Decim - Who I'd like to meet:

This revolution will not be broadcast, although it may be televised, on demand, portable and configurable— but it will be your choice. Possibly, it will be your creation. Remember the Future of “no future”? Well, this is it. That’s not a statement of doom. It’s an expression of freedom. Kill your clocks, burn your calendars, and hang out. Alterati has built the platform. All you need do is show up.

47 and single...now why am I not surprised ;) Toooooo much LSD in the 60's and 70's........

[agneau]

Freemason Implying, Someone who is Free & a MASON.

A MASON, someone who works with STONE, you amateur dramatics DO Not Work with STONE, as you have Admitted more than Once..

The non masonry masons.

FAKES

Free Mason is, one has to admit, an oxymoronic term, and although this society is an open secret one is often met with a deafening silence when some pretty ugly accusations are made. But almost exactly the same mistakes are made by those who are clearly confused about Freemasonry (and this would be seriously funny if it wasn’t really a tragic comedy). In their unbiased opinions Freemason do not act naturally, and are clearly hiding the truth as something is found missing in their answers. The exact estimate of numbers involved on either side are a constant variable, but when left alone together they make more noise than a peacekeeper missile. A lot of liquid gas. But this is old news. I’m typing this in Microsoft Works, and as I’m running out ideas, I think my only choice is to come to a rolling stop. Original copies of this are available in paperback.

[stevepenny]

Steve penny - about me

I am a non masonry mason, I one day hope to build solomons temple from stickle bricks & playdoh..

Steve penny - the one I'd like to meet

I renounce zionism secret nepotism & wanting to build jewish temples from stickle bricks & playdoh, I like a pint of heavy, porridge & don't wear skirts.
Non masonry masons have built a power structure of subversion lies, war & criminal enterprise which is now crumbling. All you have to do is set yourself free by telling your story to the worlds press.

Fat 40 something, living with mum, feeding on deep fried mars bars & Buckfast, supporting St Mirren intermittently for 3 decades.

Nb. wrong age, wrong status, wrong drug, Nil pointe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CodmlmxpZeQ

Nothing wrong with St Mirren, at least not since the goat started to play for them ;)

[decim]

Goats made fro Girders...

Nothing wrong with St Mirren, at least not since the goat started to play for them ;)

[agneau]

Free Mason is, one has to admit, an oxymoronic term, and although this society is an open secret one is often met with a deafening silence when some pretty ugly accusations are made. But almost exactly the same mistakes are made by those who are clearly confused about Freemasonry (and this would be seriously funny if it wasn’t really a tragic comedy). In their unbiased opinions Freemason do not act naturally, and are clearly hiding the truth as something is found missing in their answers. The exact estimate of numbers involved on either side are a constant variable, but when left alone together they make more noise than a peacekeeper missile. A lot of liquid gas. But this is old news. I’m typing this in Microsoft Works, and as I’m running out ideas, I think my only choice is to come to a rolling stop. Original copies of this are available in paperback.

margaritas ante porcos....

[macneil]

My sister wants to name her first born Mason!

She knows nothing of the secret society, nor their corrupt ways!!

Can anyone guide me to the best and easy to follow anti-mason videos!

Please help!

Thanks!

Better than Oddfellow I guess...

[keystone]

Simple.

Show her the search results for "masons are evil".

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=%22masons+are+evil%22&meta=&fp=2b6a54a9ce7131a8

There's 97,300 results.

Before any Masons on here jump in - the point isn't whether or not Masonry is evil. The point is how to dissuade somebody from naming their kid 'Mason'.Interesting that your link gives me only 8,780 hits and the first 20 returns are either largely neutral to the question or positive.

Cheers

[keystone]

Its simple really. Its not that I wish to change her mind. Its that I want to offer her a basic explanation of my opinion, and that there will be consequences of the decision.Thanks for your reply. My cousins eldest is about to produce her fourth child with her third man. From a family perspective its a selfish decision, from a home perspective its wrong and from a financial consideration its also wrong. Actually she's being downright irresponsible. Everyone in the family thinks this and we all know that there is going to be pain which will impact on all of us at one stage or another. Nobody is going to tell her though and we are keeping our individual feelings to ourselves (distress in some closer to the scene of the accident). Thats because the mother and child are the most important. I am realy sorry to say it but my original analysis suggested you were being rather selfish and I still believe that to be the case.

A mothers relationship with her first child is extremely important. You really, IMHO, shouldn't be putting pressure on that relationship with your "consequences". Suggesting there will be "consequences" is really quite threatening and you are forcing her to make a choice whether you think you are or not. Don't upset your sister or your relationship over the name she has chosen for her child. It isn't worth it. Sometimes we all have to accept a little pain in order to enhance the happiness of a loved one. Give the poor kid a nickname and use that. It'll probably get called Mase anyway which, hopefully, you can accept.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

[camreeno]

A mason is just someone who carves stuff out of stone. Nothing to worry about.

[solarwindspirit]

Nothing wrong with St Mirren, at least not since the goat started to play for them ;)


Well, that's pretty good. . .but I dont' I have a problem or whether it's a positive attribute

I renounce it all!

[bluehorseman]

It's not your baby mate she can call it what she likes.

[texdallas]

Why do you guys bother?

This is a serious thread for me.

I need help in convincing my sister not to do what she is about to do.

She doesn't know any better.

I will not be able to socialise with the word Mason being called out and used in conversation.

This topic may offend you.

But its more offensive to me that you think the breakdown of a sibling relationship is something to be joked about.


Whats sad is your willing to break down a relationship with your sister over a name. You make it sound like she's better off calling the child Mason and wishing you all the best

[stevepenny]

Goats made fro Girders...

They'd be GUERDERS then...never could do the rolling 'R' thing..

http://www.boycevoice.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/goat-know-your-goat.jpg

[therealedeal]

Whats sad is your willing to break down a relationship with your sister over a name. You make it sound like she's better off calling the child Mason and wishing you all the best

I wont be breaking it down intentionally.

Everytime I hear that word I will feel intense anger and disgust.

I will naturally not want to be around her family as much, due to associating angry feelings with their company.

[texdallas]

i wont be breaking it down intentionally.

Everytime i hear that word i will feel intense anger and disgust.

I will naturally not want to be around her family as much, due to associating angry feelings with their company.

you need to get some help

[krakhead]

I wont be breaking it down intentionally.

Everytime I hear that word I will feel intense anger and disgust.

I will naturally not want to be around her family as much, due to associating angry feelings with their company.

Well then the issue is yours, not hers. Can't you just suck it up and enjoy the fun your nephew will bring to your family?

He may become a famous actor......

http://epguides.lougrant.net/lg_adams1.jpg

[lauren_almighty]

One of my cousins is named Mason.

It doesn't mean he's evil or anything and it's actually a nice sounding name.

[grandsecretary]

It's not your baby mate she can call it what she likes.

:eek:

[therealedeal]

you need to get some help

Absolutely, refer to title of thread.

[therealedeal]

Well then the issue is yours, not hers. Can't you just suck it up and enjoy the fun your nephew will bring to your family?


Wow, really? ZOMG I never thought of it like that :rolleyes:

I will enjoy his life.

I will not enjoy his name.

[therealedeal]

One of my cousins is named Mason.

It doesn't mean he's evil or anything and it's actually a nice sounding name.

Well of course it doesnt MEAN anything.

It is not a nice sounding name to me.

Id rather he was called Anus McCunt Shit, than that other horrid, dreadful name.

[texdallas]

Absolutely, refer to title of thread.

By help I mean medical professional help. Suck it up and get over yourself it's a name nothing more than a sound. Putting a name your sister calls her son in the way of your family relationships. Like I said if your that touchy she's as well off having you out of her young childs life. Enjoy your life of ignorance and paranoia what a fearfull place you've decided to occupy.

[barney_rubble]

Look dude (sorry I will use a local term - mate)..

I think someone famous once said:
What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.

And someone else famous said:
And that's all I have to say about that.

[lauren_almighty]

Well of course it doesnt MEAN anything.

It is not a nice sounding name to me.

Id rather he was called Anus McCunt Shit, than that other horrid, dreadful name.

Well then you are really shallow. You are making a big deal about a name. It's just a word. It shouldn't matter.

[ekim]

Why do you guys bother?

This is a serious thread for me.

I need help in convincing my sister not to do what she is about to do.

She doesn't know any better.

I will not be able to socialise with the word Mason being called out and used in conversation.

This topic may offend you.

But its more offensive to me that you think the breakdown of a sibling relationship is something to be joked about.

You are acctually going to let this bother you?

A little paranoid maybe?

Get outside more ;)

[kanz]

it's only a name , granted not normal but its not the end of the world.

[skyver]

it's only a name , granted not normal but its not the end of the world.


Exactly, just a name. i think the OP is being too petty.

[vetis]

i think its an awesome name.. Mason..good solid sounding name. its not a rare name either. the fact that you are completely neurotic and paranoid is your problem, no-one elses.

Mason is a somewhat common first name for men (#632 out of 1220) and an even more common last name for both men and women (#135 out of 88799). (1990 U.S. Census)

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/Mason

Well of course it doesnt MEAN anything.

If it doesnt MEAN anything then there is no reason to get worked up is there? so either it does mean something or it doesnt..you invalidated your argument yourself(that the name is so offensive you couldnt hear it spoken indicates it has strong meaning) or you are mentally all over the place.