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thebrownbunny
18-10-2009, 07:49 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

fekdemasons
18-10-2009, 10:49 PM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Bedrest !:D

thebrownbunny
19-10-2009, 11:02 PM
Bedrest !:D

I thought of that already.

Problem is, I'm a bed-wetter so going to bed can be quite frustrating for me and not at all rejuvenating.:(

diamond dogs
19-10-2009, 11:14 PM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?


Do you suffer from depression?

the nine
20-10-2009, 12:29 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

well, my prognosis is..

take some natural peruvian maca powder, to start with..
I think this would be benificial as a natural start..then, after
maybe some iodine in the form of Kelp tablets and maybe some bee pollen and wheatgrass then you could take some spirulina powder..by this time you will be feeling human again..then you could start some walks in the open air before trying exercise.

hope this helps

childofthetao
20-10-2009, 07:02 AM
What does your diet consist of? And what is your sleeping pattern? I assume your tired upon waking, but are your tired when you go to be at night? (if it IS at night that is)?

Peace
Child of the Tao

quetzalcoatl
20-10-2009, 10:41 AM
I thought of that already.

Problem is, I'm a bed-wetter so going to bed can be quite frustrating for me and not at all rejuvenating.:(

Oh so really? how comes that?? - reckon I might have a cure for that, maybe - if ya ever wanna meet up, I shall administer it.. ;)

devanshoom
20-10-2009, 11:47 AM
your doctor is right.....the lethergy comes from being inactive all the time...force yourself to do some excersice everyday and you will notice a difference in your energy levels...I would also recommend some deep breathing to oxygenate your cells...inflate the lungs and hold it for about 10 seconds....do it at least once a day for a period of 5 minutes.

The 2 above strategies work for me......I need to do them cos i have a standing heart rate of 47 (bradychardia) and it makes me feel pretty lazy most of the time.

if you really cant be arsed making an effort then consider doing yourself in and seeing how you fare on the other side.

childofthetao
20-10-2009, 02:04 PM
Oh so really? how comes that?? - reckon I might have a cure for that, maybe - if ya ever wanna meet up, I shall administer it.. ;)

What is the name of that cartoon in your avatar? It looks so familiar...

Peace
Child of the Tao

margaretr
20-10-2009, 10:20 PM
This looks like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome to me.
Beware of exhausing what little energy you have by excercise.
This website with a free e-book might be helpful
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/articles.cfm?subject=Fatigue

foobar
20-10-2009, 10:40 PM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Try summoning up a burst of willpower and make yourself do a short, easy bit of exercise. It might make you feel better. If it does, then do it again the next day, perhaps just a bit more exercise.

If it doesn't work try something else.

pureheart
20-10-2009, 10:47 PM
You could be celiac. Try giving up wheat for a few days and see if you feel better.

Bladder irritation is also a symptom of food allergy but I think dairy is a more likely culprit for that. ;)

delamo1999
20-10-2009, 11:35 PM
This looks like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome to me.
Beware of exhausing what little energy you have by excercise.
This website with a free e-book might be helpful
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/articles.cfm?subject=Fatigue

Or you may be experiencing Ascension Symptoms. And if this is the case no allopathic doctor will have a good answer to tell you. I've been told that meditation, lots of water, light exercise, and rest will help you get through this. But the best advice I can give you is to just be gentle with yourself and don't allow yourself to get attached to other peoples negative energies.

:)

quetzalcoatl
20-10-2009, 11:41 PM
What is the name of that cartoon in your avatar? It looks so familiar...

Peace
Child of the Tao

Tis the old D & D cartoon.. ;)

I use to love dat shit! :D

quetzalcoatl
21-10-2009, 07:26 AM
I thought of that already.

Problem is, I'm a bed-wetter so going to bed can be quite frustrating for me and not at all rejuvenating.:(

Well could be something true somewhere, sometime, somehow.. - yet this joker is a liar! of-course! ;)

& lies make me mad az injured snake! :D

pureheart
21-10-2009, 11:10 AM
Or you may be experiencing Ascension Symptoms. And if this is the case no allopathic doctor will have a good answer to tell you. I've been told that meditation, lots of water, light exercise, and rest will help you get through this. But the best advice I can give you is to just be gentle with yourself and don't allow yourself to get attached to other peoples negative energies.

:)

Good advice. :)

I always feel a lot worse when I'm around angry people.

rowan22
25-10-2009, 10:41 PM
From my experience there are a lot of people whose system is being badly affected by yeast overgrowth. Chlorine in drinking water helps to destroy the friendly bacteria in our guts. This can allow an overgrowth of the usually tolerated yeast. Once you have an overgrowth, the stomach can be damaged which can allow large molecules of undigested food to pass through the lining and into the bloodstream. This can trigger the immune system to think the food is a virus and attack it. Too much stimulus and the system can begin to attack your own tissues. A common target for this antibody short circuit is the thyroid gland. So as well as the tiredness which results from immunological over stimulation the main control over the speed of your metabolism and therefore energy levels is affected. It all combines into a downward spiral until you recognise what is going on. Filter your water, add lemon juice to it to improve the alkalinity and hinder yeast growth. Grapefruit seed extract works well also (citrisidol). Re populate the gut with lactobacillus acidophilus. Cut down on caffeine as this stimulates the stress hormone cortisol. This also weakens the digestive system.

Get rid of all polycarbonate plastic bottles you have. They contain an estrogenic compound that wreaks havoc on your body’s endocrine system. Hope this helps.

delamo1999
26-10-2009, 05:57 AM
Good advice. :)

I always feel a lot worse when I'm around angry people.


About ascention, many people's bodies are assimilating to the new higher frequencies. This can cause people to want to sleep more because they are not used to the higher energies. Best advice is to take this time to slow down and be gentle to yourself during this process. Things like lots of water, light exercise, and meditation can really help.

tjohn
11-11-2009, 11:20 AM
From my experience there are a lot of people whose system is being badly affected by yeast overgrowth. Chlorine in drinking water helps to destroy the friendly bacteria in our guts. This can allow an overgrowth of the usually tolerated yeast. Once you have an overgrowth, the stomach can be damaged which can allow large molecules of undigested food to pass through the lining and into the bloodstream. This can trigger the immune system to think the food is a virus and attack it. Too much stimulus and the system can begin to attack your own tissues. A common target for this antibody short circuit is the thyroid gland. So as well as the tiredness which results from immunological over stimulation the main control over the speed of your metabolism and therefore energy levels is affected. It all combines into a downward spiral until you recognise what is going on. Filter your water, add lemon juice to it to improve the alkalinity and hinder yeast growth. Grapefruit seed extract works well also (citrisidol). Re populate the gut with lactobacillus acidophilus. Cut down on caffeine as this stimulates the stress hormone cortisol. This also weakens the digestive system.

Get rid of all polycarbonate plastic bottles you have. They contain an estrogenic compound that wreaks havoc on your body’s endocrine system. Hope this helps.Candida - I had it and after doing research on the Internet came to similar conclusions as yourself in regard molecules of food getting into the blood and the immune system. I took some tablets from the doctor to help clear the Candida and also some Probiotic tabs which I got from the chemist and it did make a difference.

However, I have other symptoms (a lot of them) and was diagnosed with ME/CFS which I gather involves an autoimmune disorder in itself. Then there's more: many symptoms appeared when I came off Seroxat about 7 years ago, including dreadful electric zaps in my head. My hands sometimes move by themselves and I still get very tired, have pain all over like I have the flu and at times I cannot see properly. As far as I am concerned, Seroxat/Paxil has cause me serious damage.

rowan22
11-11-2009, 03:46 PM
Candida - I had it and after doing research on the Internet came to similar conclusions as yourself in regard molecules of food getting into the blood and the immune system. I took some tablets from the doctor to help clear the Candida and also some Probiotic tabs which I got from the chemist and it did make a difference.

However, I have other symptoms (a lot of them) and was diagnosed with ME/CFS which I gather involves an autoimmune disorder in itself. Then there's more: many symptoms appeared when I came off Seroxat about 7 years ago, including dreadful electric zaps in my head. My hands sometimes move by themselves and I still get very tired, have pain all over like I have the flu and at times I cannot see properly. As far as I am concerned, Seroxat/Paxil has cause me serious damage.

I've P.Md you John.

nirvana
17-11-2009, 10:42 AM
I went through the chronic fatigue and the best thing i ever did was to take creatine. It really does work.

mikelambert
28-11-2009, 05:31 PM
well, my prognosis is..

take some natural peruvian maca powder, to start with..
I think this would be benificial as a natural start..then, after
maybe some iodine in the form of Kelp tablets and maybe some bee pollen and wheatgrass then you could take some spirulina powder..by this time you will be feeling human again..then you could start some walks in the open air before trying exercise.

hope this helps

If you are feeling extremely tired all the time you need to get it checked out. Apart from depression, there are many other issues, Glucose handling, Candida, Thyroid and others. However, before you can treat something you need to know what your treating. Have you had blood tests, or any other diagnostics?

morjo
13-12-2009, 04:13 AM
Your problem could be anything that has been stated in this post, I'd go to a few different doctors if I were you and see what the problem is, no doubt most will think it's depression and push drugs onto you.

When I feel tired and lazy the best thing to boost my energy levels is to get outside and walk. Try and walk fast and walk as far as you can while breathing in and out as much as you can, fresh air is very very important. Exercise doesn't have to mean jogging or doing weights. Go walk in a park or walk around your town or cities streets and see what everybody is up to or do some window shopping. Stuffy air indoors can play havoc with energy levels.

Also eat healthy instead of eating highly processed foods.

Hope your looking into some of the advise here.

armoured_amazon
13-12-2009, 04:38 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Just lie on the sofa. It's general malaise - in a world such as this, why make an effort? (that's what I think, sometimes)

sofa king
13-12-2009, 04:49 AM
Do you suffer from depression?

x2


depression doesn't necessarily mean feeling sad.

non-pharma treatment is lots of B vitamins and fish oils, avoid caffeine!!!! Caffiene triggers it.

justin_pushka
16-12-2009, 09:32 PM
You could try an orgonite parasite zapper from orgonise africa. Get rid of the heavy load of parasites you may have that way yourl be eating the food not all the other critters. Then as others have sugested try weatgrass id recomend it highly. Start eating more veg if you can. Check for a weat or dairy alergy. Ive had your very symptoms for years. I found i had a wheat, lactose alergy and diabeties. Once you find out what it is yourl be able to put it right in no time and feel better. Orgonite in the house and garden is also recomended.

mikelambert
17-12-2009, 09:49 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

An interesting discovery is that the body excretes a molecule known as Interleukin 6 when the body has been under physical exertion of possibly extreme stress. IL-6 makes us feel tired and therefore stops us from overdoing it and damaging ourselves. When researchers injected IL-6 into healthy people they became fatigued.
I feel that IL-6 may underpin CFS and fatigue.
If you do exercise keep it to mild exertion otherwise you may be creating your problem. Mike

quetzalcoatl
21-12-2009, 12:05 PM
An interesting discovery is that the body excretes a molecule known as Interleukin 6 when the body has been under physical exertion of possibly extreme stress. IL-6 makes us feel tired and therefore stops us from overdoing it and damaging ourselves. When researchers injected IL-6 into healthy people they became fatigued.
I feel that IL-6 may underpin CFS and fatigue.
If you do exercise keep it to mild exertion otherwise you may be creating your problem. Mike

That's nice of you & others here to offer helpful advice but unfortunately this guy is a lying troll, here in attempts to lambaste me, just trust me! ;) - so I apologize. Although it's not completely in vain though, for he was surely quite stressed. Stressed in his imaginings people (me included obviously) were trying to get him fired - & from a factory job of all places! :rolleyes: - Pathetic thing is, this was about 3-4 years ago...

The strain was plain to see... Once we were chilling out-side during lunch, chatting, having some laughs, as ya do & a guy I knew just so happen to be in the hood & dropped in to say hey, whom was also of similar ethnicity to this chap & since we were chatting & purely out of social consideration, so-as not to be rude, I just introduced them & this guy (the OP) fully dropped his nuts, for some odd reason... :p well, he looked really uncomfortable, to say the least - like a sneaky child caught being dis-honest - seriously it was quite wierd...

Das what happens! ;)

white horse
22-01-2010, 02:03 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Best advise, really it is!!

I honestly believe that exercise would be the first thing I would recomend too! Regualr exercise would make an enourmous difference to you!

See if you can try it.

Just half an hour a day; especially in the morning.

Just try doing 20 mins of steps. Walk up and down a step, placing each foot sqaurly down, follwoed by the other, for 20 mins. Put some music on, and do it for 5 songs or something.

Try it.

i guarantee after 5 days you will feel different! (the key is your body's supply of oxygen. It is not getting enough. The only way to resolve this is to force the muscles to draw in more oxygen. After 5 days they will start to do it naturally. You will feel better!)

Maybe also try some herbal teas (coffee WILL NOT help you, it will make you worse!) - something with a bit of zing... folks around here will know what will help!

Over to you DIFers...

born_free
22-01-2010, 04:10 AM
Could be anything!! These suggestions people are giving you are good to try.
You have bed wetting + tiredness.

Do you have these, too?
Charley-horses (spontaneous muscle tightening in calves, feet, or other voluntary muscles)?
Sensitive teeth or bad teeth (caries)?

If you do, you have a calcium deficiency. Take calcium especially at night before bed. There are different forms of calcium, some better than others. (Calcium with magnesium in gel or liquid form is one of the better choices.)

geezer661
22-01-2010, 08:37 PM
exercise everyday, drink alot of water, tke creatine, tke protein. dnt just mindlessly exercise. Set goals and aim hard for them it mkes it more enjoyable and yes u cant be bothered to strt with but tht goes after a week or two and you strt to enjoy it when you see the diff it mkes

quetzalcoatl
26-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Well of-course you guys dun get it, or worse ya perpetuate the mis-conceptions... - this guys has got it wrong across the board, sometimes it's a matter of time making a fool of us all, others are mis-interpretations due to seeing everything for his own intentions / expectations... (also note this is over 3-4 years ago...) & despite my capability of explaining it all & also elucidating to this characters true nature, I simply will not, I couldn't care less... & I do mean it! - it's really the perfect guise & will only help ensure I find what I'm looking for...

jimj_wpg
19-03-2010, 07:31 PM
15,000 IU's of Vitamin D
B75 Complex (Stress)

Get yourself a (or more than one if you're in a large home) HEPA air filter for your home.

Get off the Aspartame and HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) soft drinks and switch to ones that use sugar cane (Jones). You can buy beverages made with sugar cane from almost any health food store.

Purchase a herbal detox kit - Bentonite and Psyllium

Purchase a bottle of colloidal silver - Take 1 teaspoon a day. It's a natural anti-depressant!

Purchase a tincture bottle of oil of oregano to clear your sinus cavaties.

Start here. And in 3 to 4 months you should start feeling terrific (normal) again.

Find something (a hobby) that you enjoy and go do it!

Jim

jimj_wpg
19-03-2010, 07:43 PM
From my experience there are a lot of people whose system is being badly affected by yeast overgrowth.

Yes, I agree. Also known as a candida infection. :eek:

Bentonite & Psyllium and/or Colloidal Silver will clear it up in a few weeks.

Jim

quetzalcoatl
20-03-2010, 12:24 AM
15,000 IU's of Vitamin D
B75 Complex (Stress)

Get yourself a (or more than one if you're in a large home) HEPA air filter for your home.

Get off the Aspartame and HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) soft drinks and switch to ones that use sugar cane (Jones). You can buy beverages made with sugar cane from almost any health food store.

Purchase a herbal detox kit - Bentonite and Psyllium

Purchase a bottle of colloidal silver - Take 1 teaspoon a day. It's a natural anti-depressant!

Purchase a tincture bottle of oil of oregano to clear your sinus cavaties.

Start here. And in 3 to 4 months you should start feeling terrific (normal) again.

Find something (a hobby) that you enjoy and go do it!

Jim

No, you do all that... - I'm too far gone, go on without me... save yourselves!!! :D

It's a FAKE thread FFS!!!!!

LMAO! :D

mikelambert
20-03-2010, 11:22 PM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

If you have checked out that there is no obvious cause, and that you do not feel depressed, you might consider looking at you Vit 3D levels. We may be able to offer some advice on how you might do this.

quetzalcoatl
21-03-2010, 05:58 AM
*Face-Palm*

quetzalcoatl
21-03-2010, 06:02 AM
If you have checked out that there is no obvious cause, and that you do not feel depressed, you might consider looking at you Vit 3D levels. We may be able to offer some advice on how you might do this.

Besides (it being a FAKE thread! grrr! :p) I would have thought you may have prognosticated something different, ESPECIALLY considering the conditions you've ruled out... - wouldn't natural plants or synthetic supplements from the B-group help more with energy levels???

But hey, you're the expert... :)

mikelambert
21-03-2010, 08:51 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

If you have had yourself checked out for possible medical factors and conditions such as depression have been ruled out, and I have previously posted the Interleukin 6 possibility also, then you might want to consider another option, that being Vit D deficiency syndrome. Don't like many people do assume that just because you have read about Vit D deficiency syndrome that you have it. You have to establish it. If you would like to explore this please get back to me.

quetzalcoatl
22-03-2010, 07:40 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Ahhhh... yeah, those were the days... - busting my ass off in a totally unappreciated (of-course) factory job & never-ever whining about it... working @ least twice as hard as every-other drifting around pansies there, prolly moving thrice as fast as them also :p yeah, walking / running / riding or driving there & back, having to listen to every-other flounder there complain about how much they hate the bosses & how crap everyone else is etc... & this guy can't take - nor even give either :p - a joke??? Yet really, some of these leachy (in more ways than one, damn thieves) vampires were really quite draining...

Guess das pretty much what my days consisted of; 8 hours in a factory job, get home bust a work-out (or sometimes later in the evening) or do some work on a car I was working on (basic stuff angle-grinding / sanding rust / bog etc...) then help a mate with a cleaning contract for a few hours, all in-between running around serving & maintaining a small non-profitable business (which again leachy vampires took advantage of), then maybe wind down to a book or some on-line games for a bit, crash & 5-7 hours sleep later get-up, rinse & repeat... - hardly had time to even think about 'tired & lethargism' (bar silly / paranoid whinos spreading their negative shite about how people are trying to get them fired - well I guess that ones been 'resolved' LMAO!), if I had any spare time @ all, twas beer in the sun, refreshing swims @ the lake etc... good times... :D

I'm in-fact addressing the real topic / 'issue' here, everyone else is off-topic 'troll'! :p lol

& I am holding-back / saving the 'best' & waiting in case of his return... Muahahahaah!

farros
22-03-2010, 08:45 AM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

there is no solution if your to lazy to help yourself.

jimj_wpg
22-03-2010, 05:24 PM
If you have checked out that there is no obvious cause, and that you do not feel depressed, you might consider looking at you Vit 3D levels. We may be able to offer some advice on how you might do this.

WOW! Where can I get those 3D Vitamin D's? Do they come with those special 3D glasses you use for the movies? :D

quetzalcoatl
24-03-2010, 09:24 PM
WOW! Where can I get those 3D Vitamin D's? Do they come with those special 3D glasses you use for the movies? :D

Das not dat funny... :p

If you have had yourself checked out for possible medical factors and conditions such as depression have been ruled out, and I have previously posted the Interleukin 6 possibility also, then you might want to consider another option, that being Vit D deficiency syndrome. Don't like many people do assume that just because you have read about Vit D deficiency syndrome that you have it. You have to establish it. If you would like to explore this please get back to me.

I'd do the same, if I were un-sure, err on the side of caution..?? just in-case, type of thing..?? :) - yet with all due respect, I might have also @ least acknowledged / explored / investigated differing - in this case real / accurate - perspectives... Oh well... was basically juz tryna save ya some time... ;)

Ya know, I've been taking vit D3 for a few months now - quite un-awares of the fact (until I checked just now!) - in the form of a high potency B group supplement (with ginseng also)... & don't feel much different @ all TBH, although I suspect the 'placebo effects' are near limit-less... maybe... :D

Tis a synthetic (as far as I know) multi-vit; so it's probably rather crap & makes little or no difference as far as I can tell - apart from perhaps a slight increase in energy & a few hours of lost sleep here & there... The vit D3 is in the form of Cholecalciferol 2.5mcg... - tell me this shites even remotely beneficial??? anyone?? :confused:

anna
28-04-2010, 02:24 PM
I feel extremely tired and lethargic all the time and can't be bothered to do anything. Also, nothing in life interests me.

If I go to the doctor he tells me to exercise!! But of course, if I could be bothered to exercise I wouldn't have this problem in the first place!

So what's the solution?

Has hair analysis been mentioned? Maybe that's something to consider having done also.

I wish you all the best.

blue2
29-04-2010, 12:32 PM
Has hair analysis been mentioned? Maybe that's something to consider having done also.

I wish you all the best.

I think it could be hormonal deficiencies-what other symptoms are there? take a look at Thyoid UK and Thyroid Patient Advocacy and Thyroid Tears-if it is this then no amount of other treatments will work long term. Also consider Colonic Irrigations as they do rid body of toxins that drag your body down and gives you energy.You need to do a few though by Qual Practitioner.

blue2
29-04-2010, 12:48 PM
Also detoxyourworld.com has some Men's and Lady's PQ multi-vit/mins in capsule form. It could also be Magnesium deficiency along with other minerals and transdermal and ionics are best for this. Most folks are full of crap toxic build up from todays foods and water and tea n coffee.Colonics.

pipsicle
29-04-2010, 07:01 PM
I think it could be hormonal deficiencies-what other symptoms are there? take a look at Thyoid UK and Thyroid Patient Advocacy and Thyroid Tears-if it is this then no amount of other treatments will work long term. Also consider Colonic Irrigations as they do rid body of toxins that drag your body down and gives you energy.You need to do a few though by Qual Practitioner.

Great advice blue. If it's the thyroid only thyroid treatment will work. If you colon cleanse you may wish to follow through with black walnut hulls and wormwood for parasites.

dalem
30-04-2010, 02:19 AM
There is some good info already written here but I would check out your Iodine levels as soon as you can. The iodine test is quite straightforward and gives an approximate guide to your Iodine levels. A more comprehensive test would involve Urine Samples. Blood samples to test for Iodine are not that conclusive. Source: Dr David Bernstein. "Iodine - The Most Misunderstood Nutrient"

Also if you could write here what your diet consists of it would help.

Flouride, Bromine and Chlorine (All halogens ) dump the Iodine out of your body and replace it with themselves. ( If taken in sufficient quantities ) Remember these halogens are everywhere, your drinking water, toothpaste, Bromine is even sprayed on strawberries.

mikelambert
14-05-2010, 07:33 AM
Has hair analysis been mentioned? Maybe that's something to consider having done also.

I wish you all the best.

A while back I posted a suggestion that a lot of fatigue and tiredness could be associated with increased levels of Interleukin 6. As I said I.6 is released to stop us damaging ourselves by making us feel tired. For example following exercise. Quite to my surprise I have been contacted by doctors's who, having read my theory want to carry out blood tests (which are a bit more elaborate than usual) to explore if the theory is correct. I think it is in its greater part, and that is why orthodox med. is struggling to treat it. It is looking in the wrong place. Watch this space over the next few months.

quetzalcoatl
19-05-2010, 06:47 AM
He's probably just a lazy little shit... :D - look he can't even be fuct acknowledging all this wonderful advice...

Guess we'll neva kno... :rolleyes:

PS; I'm the only one on topic ere! :p

mikelambert
19-05-2010, 08:57 AM
There is some good info already written here but I would check out your Iodine levels as soon as you can. The iodine test is quite straightforward and gives an approximate guide to your Iodine levels. A more comprehensive test would involve Urine Samples. Blood samples to test for Iodine are not that conclusive. Source: Dr David Bernstein. "Iodine - The Most Misunderstood Nutrient"

Also if you could write here what your diet consists of it would help.

Flouride, Bromine and Chlorine (All halogens ) dump the Iodine out of your body and replace it with themselves. ( If taken in sufficient quantities ) Remember these halogens are everywhere, your drinking water, toothpaste, Bromine is even sprayed on strawberries.

An interesting development has just occurred re my suggestion that Interleukin 6 might be the underlying culprit in many cases of fatigue. Doctors have now approached me with great interest regarding this and have offered to explore the possibilities of them (NHS) funding the blood test.
I will keep you up to speed.

quetzalcoatl
28-05-2010, 09:27 AM
A while back I posted a suggestion that a lot of fatigue and tiredness could be associated with increased levels of Interleukin 6. As I said I.6 is released to stop us damaging ourselves by making us feel tired. For example following exercise. Quite to my surprise I have been contacted by doctors's who, having read my theory want to carry out blood tests (which are a bit more elaborate than usual) to explore if the theory is correct. I think it is in its greater part, and that is why orthodox med. is struggling to treat it. It is looking in the wrong place. Watch this space over the next few months.


An interesting development has just occurred re my suggestion that Interleukin 6 might be the underlying culprit in many cases of fatigue. Doctors have now approached me with great interest regarding this and have offered to explore the possibilities of them (NHS) funding the blood test.
I will keep you up to speed.

Alright mate... bump it forward for ya, in-case anyone missed it... :D

mikelambert
31-05-2010, 11:14 AM
Alright mate... bump it forward for ya, in-case anyone missed it... :D

Everyone with Fatigue should consider taking the Candida Indicator Test to be found on the main page - www.theshenclinic.com You should also consider taking it if you have dark colouring around your eyes. Candida, can exhaust you, and depress you, leaving you feeling absolutely washed out. Remember Candida is diamorphic - one part of it feeds off fermented sugars, hence bloating, whilst the other part of it extends feelers through the mucosa of the digestive track the both feeds and breeds off its hosts body. Maybe Yours.

Dealing with Candida can be a problem because of its capable of re-colonise other parts of the body at unbelievable speed. You have to treat your whole digestive system in my view - naturopharma.com has some specialist products to assist with this.

mikelambert
31-05-2010, 11:15 AM
Alright mate... bump it forward for ya, in-case anyone missed it... :D

Everyone with Fatigue should consider taking the Candida Indicator Test to be found on the main page - www.theshenclinic.com You should also consider taking it if you have dark colouring around your eyes. Candida, can exhaust you, and depress you, leaving you feeling absolutely washed out. Remember Candida is diamorphic - one part of it feeds off fermented sugars, hence bloating, whilst the other part of it extends feelers through the mucosa of the digestive track then both feeds, and breeds off its hosts body. Maybe Yours.

Dealing with Candida can be a problem because of its capable of re-colonise other parts of the body at unbelievable speed. You have to treat your whole digestive system in my view - naturopharma.com has some specialist products to assist with this.