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worlds beyond
15-10-2009, 11:13 PM
just received this in my email:




"Sunday, June 27, 2004


Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate


Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.

Barrack Obama


"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."


—AP


News Headlines | Home Page

Copyright © 2004 . The Standard Ltd"



link:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm






apparently, this 'news' was published back in 2004.... long before BO was touted for President. I'm not sure if article is legit or not, but if so, is interesting.

el jefe
16-10-2009, 12:47 AM
Its AP news. I find all sorts of sites like this. Check em out:

http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/

This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html



"Very rarely have I met a more impressive person than Tammy Duckworth," said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in an article the day before she announced her candidacy Dec. 18. "She just has the poise and exudes the type of character that I think would make her an astounding public servant."

Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai'i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have "a kama'aina connection."

Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.



Even his own cities paper says he was born in Indonesia

ben black
16-10-2009, 09:07 AM
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2006/Jan/08/ln/FP601080334.html



"Very rarely have I met a more impressive person than Tammy Duckworth," said Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in an article the day before she announced her candidacy Dec. 18. "She just has the poise and exudes the type of character that I think would make her an astounding public servant."

Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai'i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have "a kama'aina connection."

Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia, Duckworth in Thailand — and graduated from high school in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.



Even his own cities paper says he was born in Indonesia


This line appears to have been scrubbed.

el jefe
16-10-2009, 04:46 PM
This line appears to have been scrubbed.

Holy **** It was just there yesterday! This is a 2006 article! Im emailing them

saicosis
16-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Duckworth is happy to point out that she and Hawai'i-raised Punahou graduate Obama have "a kama'aina connection."

Both graduated from high schools in Honolulu — Punahou and McKinley, respectively.


This is what it shows right now.

el jefe
16-10-2009, 05:04 PM
This is what it shows right now.

Yep just emailed the editor and numerous editors at the paper demanding an explanation on why they would edit a 3 year old article. Forwarded the info to Orly Taitz and Berg and other media sources. Unreal....

silvermonkey
16-10-2009, 05:18 PM
If he was born in kenya which would seem to be the case , who is the president of the U.S.A atm . he cant be ? so who is ?. bush also cant be cos he served two terms . so who does it defualt too?

el jefe
16-10-2009, 05:39 PM
If he was born in kenya which would seem to be the case , who is the president of the U.S.A atm . he cant be ? so who is ?. bush also cant be cos he served two terms . so who does it defualt too?

If the election was illegal from the getgo I believe they would have to hold a new election. Would be scary if Biden/Hillary were next in line

silvermonkey
16-10-2009, 05:49 PM
so then the U.S.A would have no head of state atm ?.

could this have any benefit for an agenda . im not up on all the legality issues regarding this but could this be exploited in some way ?

ben black
16-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Holy **** It was just there yesterday! This is a 2006 article! Im emailing them

They edited the article AGAIN at 18:02 today.

http://www.chromium05.plus.com/img015.jpg

el jefe
16-10-2009, 06:14 PM
Thats 6pm tonight, how is that possible. Any idea what as edited?

ben black
16-10-2009, 06:22 PM
I just tried again and the "modified" time changed to the time that I logged onto that page. Scrap that post.

However - look at this page (http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/ap-declares-obama-kenyan-born/#comment-1098)

logos880
16-10-2009, 06:24 PM
Wow, this is some 1984 stuff right here! But honestly, unless they intended to out Obama as an illegal presidential candidate from the get go, I have a hard to believing this. Not that they wouldn't have an illegal candidate elected on any type of moral or ethical grounds but because it would be strategic suicide unless that was the intention all along. :confused:

ben black
16-10-2009, 06:34 PM
Wow, this is some 1984 stuff right here! But honestly, unless they intended to out Obama as an illegal presidential candidate from the get go, I have a hard to believing this. Not that they wouldn't have an illegal candidate elected on any type of moral or ethical grounds but because it would be strategic suicide unless that was the intention all along. :confused:

But what if that is the point?

They knew from the start that he wasn't lawfully eligible - but in Obama they had a man for all seasons - a secret he needs to keep about his birthplace, a willingness to do what his handlers tell him, the black vote etc etc.

If he steps out of line ( or if the PTB decide the outcome will favour thier agenda) - one of two things will happen.

1. He will go the same route as JFK
2. His birth will be "investigated" and he will be publically shamed and impeached - this will throw the US into turmoil and the right mode for civil war.

logos880
16-10-2009, 06:36 PM
But what if that is the point?

They knew from the start that he wasn't lawfully eligible - but in Obama they had a man for all seasons - a secret he needs to keep about his birthplace, a willingness to do what his handlers tell him, the black vote etc etc.

If he steps out of line ( or if the PTB decide the outcome will favour thier agenda) - one of two things will happen.

1. He will go the same route as JFK
2. His birth will be "investigated" and he will be publically shamed and impeached - this will throw the US into turmoil and the right mode for civil war.

That's what I was looking for there! Great insight! They wanted a candidate with some 'skin in the game' to make him easier to control. "We can make you or break you son."

ben black
16-10-2009, 06:46 PM
OK. I remember reading a few years ago an article that I saw on the Rense site with the title " Is this man our future president?" and yes - it WAS about Obama and from around 2004/2005 when no-one knew of him outside chicago.

I am trying to find that article but in the meantime:

http://www.rense.com/general67/over80.htm

"2. Did Russian president Putin, suspecting he might be blamed for Hurricane Katrina, jump the gun? Just prior to Katrina hitting the Gulf, Putin noted that two U.S. Senators were in Russia snooping around off-limits secret facilities. That is U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D., Ill.) originally from the former British colony of Kenya and a year previous, before Obama was elected, was publicly fingered by me as a British spy; and his accomplice in Russia, U.S. Senator Richard Lugar (R., Ind.)."


http://www.rense.com/general56/amen.htm

" Sharpton's mother cleaned house, Edwards dad worked in a mill, and Kerry's brush with roughing it, was his four months in Vietnam. There was really no contest here. Who could beat out Barack Obama of Illinois running for a U.S.Senate seat? A goat herder's son from Africa-a graduate of Columbia and Harvard-can't top that. I agree he was affable-and a refreshing change from, "Bring them on-they hate us-we're safe but not safe enough" rhetoric from Foggy Bottom. I guess it's this star status that is so disturbing. Barack seemed to be auditioning for acceptance into the Foggy Bottom -Cradle to Grave- Life's a Beach Club.


http://www.rense.com/general82/bral.htm

"If Barack Hussein Obama becomes the next president of the USA, it will be because the Republican power-brokers want him to be our next president.

The Republicans have enough dirt on Obama to make an absolute puppet out of him, through blackmail, coercion, intimidation and outright threats. "


Interesting: Barack Obama Calls For Military Action Against Iran (http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=43414) - 10/03/2004 03:15 AM

"Barack also says the US should use force to remove Pakistan's nuclear capability, should any coup attempts become successful in removing PM Musharaff."


I'll try to find the article

el jefe
16-10-2009, 06:57 PM
Wow, lets see how many sources we can find that state something other than his COLB

largejack
16-10-2009, 07:10 PM
This is what it shows right now.

Looks like Winston Smith's been at work again ?

el jefe
16-10-2009, 11:00 PM
They just added this to the Honolulu article

CORRECTION: A correction on this story was published on Sunday, Jan. 15, 2006: Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961. A Page One story last Sunday contained incorrect information about his birthplace.

mind1universe
16-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Oh who cares, where he's from. Or where he was born?


This is just more problem, reaction solution games.

carlperkins
16-10-2009, 11:18 PM
My money is still unfortunately on Hilary Clinton.

el jefe
16-10-2009, 11:34 PM
Oh who cares, where he's from. Or where he was born

300 million Americans should care, plus that thing we call the Consititution

graflok
16-10-2009, 11:34 PM
If B.O. is ineligible then so is Biden because B.O. selected him as his running
mate and the whole election would be invalid.

Next in line of succession would be Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi.

el jefe
16-10-2009, 11:44 PM
She would be worse than Obama

kasalt
17-10-2009, 12:26 AM
"Born in the U.S.A.: The truth about Obama's birth certificate"
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

ozpixie
17-10-2009, 01:02 AM
This is my prediction: If it does get really ugly, the PTB will shrug it off and wax lyrical that he is a citizen of the world and that he embodies all that is good and honourable about the world without borders or race and this kind of issue is why a centralised governance, free from hatred and racism is soooo needed. It would also give them another opportunity to kill off the US Constitution once and for all. And its possible that the reaction of the people to all this, when they realise en masse that they have been duped, will be too horrible to contemplate.

size_of_light
17-10-2009, 02:39 PM
Google’s archive shows Obama’s birth story has changed

October 15, 2009 by John Charlton
FIRST ONE STORY, THEN ANOTHER — Has Google scrubbed its own News Archive?

by John Charlton

(Oct. 15, 2009) — It’s the world’s largest online repository of Newspaper information, spanning the globe and more than a century of history: the Google News Archive. The Post & Email can attest to its utility and depth of coverage, which enabled it to research the biography of Judge Jerome B. Simandle and publically identify him as an ex-Naider’s Raider. This archive containes scanned images and or digitized text of printed newspapers and electronically available news reports for more than 100 years from papers and news agencies around the globe.

However, its results are skewed when you attempt to search for “Kenyan-born Obama”; results are missing; years prior to 2004 seem scrubbed; and when you click a link to an article in 2000, you get an article in 2004.

Deliberate sabotage of their own news archive?

This article will document what Google has done, for posterity’s sake.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=kenyan-born+obama

This seems a simply enough query: an attempt to verify the AP story which appeared in the East African Standard, Sunday Edition of June 27, 2004: “Kenyan-born U.S. Senator Obama hopeful….”

The results are not so simple:

The first result is for April 28, 1981: The New York Times — The results say the word Obama should appear: it does not; “Kenyan-born” is found with Leaky.

There is no mention of Obama from 1981 to 2000; despite all his “work with the poor” in Chicago.

Next, the Google Newspaper Archive, the most extensive in the world omits the article in the East African Standard for June 27, 2004, in which Obama is identified as “Kenyan-born”.

The fourth result is supposed to be to a PBS story from July 27, 2000, entitled, “Illinois Candidate for the Senate Barack Obama addresses the DNCC”, but the link leads to a report by Elizabeth Brackett, discussing Obama’s Senatorial race victory on July 27, 2004: in which she says many things about Obama, except where he was born.

The fifth link is to a July 28, 2004 story by Bill Nichols, USA Today; which it states that Obama’s father is Kenyan-born; but says nothing about the son’s birth place.

The sixth likewise, on July 27, 2004, fails to mention birth place; and just says “Kenyan-born father”.

The seventh is to the Evening Gazette (Middlesbrough, England), for Nov. 8, 2004, but which seemingly has nothing to do with Obama.

Then, you would not believe it; but all the newspapers in the world, during the period from Jan. 1, 2005 to April 12, 2006, don’t make one mention of Obama! Not even one.

In April of 2006, all three articles have the same verbiage: “a Kenyan-born father and an American mother”.

In a report from the Kansas City Infozine, on Dec. 17, 2007, a Kenyan student in Washington D.C., says that Obama is not a Kenyan, and has no legal bonds to Kenya.
Analysis: An Administration of Mendacity

It seems that following the AP story on June 27, 2004, Obama’s Campaign went mum about the birth place; and only began speaking about a “Kenyan-born” father. The Google Newspaper Archive has been scrubbed for all of 2005 and the first quarter of 2006. However, The Honolulu Advertiser was aware enough still on Jan. 8, 2006 that he had claimed a foreign birth; but by the summer of 2006 stories begin to appear claiming a Hawaiian birth. The reporter for the Honolulu Advertiser admitted in an email to Phil, the publisher of The Right Side of Life news site, that he had obtained his information from the web. Yet this same paper remained so convinced of Obama’s non-Hawaiian birth, that on Nov. 8, 2008, in a long piece ostensibly covering for Obama, it avoided all mention of the place of the birth. How is it that a newspaper in Hawaii after the election can’t bring itself to name the place of birth? — What did they know, that we don’t?*

What appears to have happened is what the American public has already noticed with Obama: he lies as he goes, and he makes up lies to suit his purpose; so many lies, you don’t know what the truth is; and frankly he does not seem to care.

However, if Obama cannot show documents which prove he is born in the USA; the mere fact that he has claimed to be born overseas and in the U.S.A.; first at one hospital in Hawaii and then at another; means that nothing he says in Court, and no document presented by his campaign could be taken as prima facie evidence of anything.

As one can see from the links piling up in the comment section below; the Obama Campaign had a serious problem with consistency of information, to put it mildly.

The moral of this story is that scrub history as much as you might try; you will always be found out; because the very act of scrubbing leaves holes; holes which will remain as silent witnesses to your crime and indicate indirectly what kind of information you wanted to suppress.

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FOOTNOTES — * As of 2 AM Oct. 16, 2009, Eastern Time, someone edited the Honolulu Advertiser page, and removed all reference to the foreign births of Duckworth and Obama; the date stamp on the modified file shows that this edit was done by someone in either the Eastern or Central time zones; because it was not yet Oct. 16th in Hawaii. The exact manner of the edit, is described here.

http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/googles-archive-shows-obama-birth-story-has-changed/

(link from rense.com)