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richardhastings
15-10-2009, 06:00 PM
Shame of drunken student caught urinating on war memorial during 'Carnage' mass pub crawl
In full public view a drunken young man urinates over a city centre war memorial, soaking wreaths of poppies laid as a tribute to the dead.
It's a shocking scene that will appal any person, even in a country where binge-drinking has become an accepted pastime for so many.
Ironically, it will come as no surprise to discover the man concerned is a 19-year-old university student who was taking part in an organised mass pub crawl in Sheffield
For their money they got an official T-shirt and access to all seven club and bar venues involved in the event.
As dozens of students in Sheffield were drinking themselves into oblivion similar scenes were taking place in Cardiff where around 3,000 university students took part in a Carnage UK event there
As the night progressed two people were taken away in ambulances and one was arrested by police in the Welsh capital for a nightclub assault on a woman.
Splashed across the back of the official t-shirt was a list of 'tasks,' including 'have fun with a fresher, harass a steward and snog five randoms,' which according to the event's Facebook page needed to be fulfilled 'by those getting in to the spirit of things.'
Many of the students were in fancy dress to adhere to the 'doctors and nurses' theme.
By the end of the night at least half of the students who stumbled out of Embrace nightclub in Sheffield city centre appeared worse the wear for drink.
None more so than Philip Laing, 19, a sports technology student at Sheffield Hallam University.
At around midnight he was in such a shocking state that he curled up for a sleep in front of a shop window, only to be woken by a group of giggling girls. Laing then ran across the street, falling down and hitting his head on the pavement in the process.
He was then helped to his feet and walked over to the First World War memorial in Baker's Pool where he urinated over the monument.
People in the area seemed oblivious to his actions. But the incident was reported to security staff who washed down the memorial with buckets of water. South Yorkshire Police said if he had been seen he would have received a fixed penalty fine.
He described the student's actions as a 'despicable act.'
He said: 'Whether he has intentionally done it or not realised because of drink it is deplorable and outrageous.
'There are people of his age who are currently serving in Afghanistan who have suffered as a result.
This is a war memorial and stands for the sacrifices people have given in the past and continue to do so today. Behaviour like this is appalling.
The company, headed by managing director Paul Bahia, 29, has faced criticism from student groups for being 'irresponsible' and there have been calls for such events to be banned.
The website warns students that 'ID will be required at all venues' and states that 'Carnage encourages responsible drinking.'
Free soft drinks and discounted food is available to revellers, while guidelines advise those taking part to 'drink in moderation and do not binge.' It also insists the venues do not offer cut-price drinks promotions and unpaid stewards are on hand to 'supervise' and monitor drinkers going from one venue to another
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/richardsladehastings/pissingonwarmemorial.jpg
passing
15-10-2009, 06:05 PM
Why single this guy out?
Perhaps he's a stupid arse but he didn't hurt anyone.
How many violent crimes went unreported that day?
Does anyone seriously think a monument in Sheffield doesn't get regularly pissed on?
nicolaj
15-10-2009, 06:06 PM
well is he at oneness or not
size_of_light
15-10-2009, 06:07 PM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
gods sun
15-10-2009, 06:21 PM
funny if 2 days later the same thing happened
delamo1999
15-10-2009, 09:55 PM
It's amazing how powerful and baffling the effects of this drug are. And most people worship this drug as though it were a god.
Time to wake up.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
gods sun
15-10-2009, 10:43 PM
indie skinny jeans they stole from there sister and long hair that looks like somthing out of a hentai movie and a hole in there ear to hold a fag.
drhemp
15-10-2009, 10:58 PM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
Indeed. Who sold him all the booze in the first place and who collects huge amounts of tax from that booze, which funds the wars that slain those who we are asked to remember.
Let us have Dutch style coffeeshops if you want to see less of this kind of behavior in Britain. They wont do that though.
mrerisian
16-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Thorin sits downs and starts singing about gold.
OR in short:
Meh! Next.
lyrag
16-10-2009, 12:36 AM
Maybe the guy knows how good and sterile urine is and was helping to clean the place up
haukipesukone
16-10-2009, 12:40 AM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
Right on. If your symbol can't take a bit of piss, your symbol isn't worth much.
firstlook
16-10-2009, 12:44 AM
Divide and Conquer
Have a nice day:)
nofuture
16-10-2009, 01:20 AM
More disrespect.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/8309714.stm
sceptic
16-10-2009, 02:25 AM
That picture of the wanker urinating makes my blood boil. How dare he show such disrespect. How would he like it if someone pissed on his belongings.
And he is supposed to be intelligent enough to go to uni. God help us in the future.
ozpixie
16-10-2009, 02:29 AM
Sadly, it seems to be fairly common. Last week we saw a young bloke was peeing on a car outside the pub as we drove home after shutting the shop. A couple of years ago someone peed on the handle of my car door. As it was very late at night (we were working shifts then) I didn't see it in time. Needless to say the yuk factor still lingers.
silvermonkey
16-10-2009, 02:50 AM
a dude taking a pee . reminds me of ozzy and the alamo
who cares he pissed on something he didnt harm hurt anyone . i could n ow babel on about all the drunks making there familys lives a misery but theres no point .ill finnish as i started
a dude taking a pee
haukipesukone
16-10-2009, 02:53 AM
What if someone pees on a stone memorial or a car? The stone won't corrode, the car won't rust. It would be different had he peed on a book or something.
tb303
16-10-2009, 03:30 AM
That picture of the wanker urinating...
Is that technically possible?
Hmmm...I'll have a go later and report back.
freedomnonfighter
16-10-2009, 03:38 AM
It's amazing how powerful and baffling the effects of this drug are. And most people worship this drug as though it were a god.
Time to wake up.
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Amen to that. What a stupid drug - and this is what it does, and regularly, too.
It doesn't increase awareness, expand consciousness, it does the opposite - hence why people do stupid shit and don't remember it. But that's the very reason it's legal of course, don't want anyone actually becoming more aware of themselves, nonono!
I agree this guy shouldn't be singled out - the drug should!
decim
16-10-2009, 03:59 AM
YouTube tony bennett the good life - YouTube
tb303
16-10-2009, 04:13 AM
Amen to that. What a stupid drug - and this is what it does, and regularly, too.
It doesn't increase awareness, expand consciousness, it does the opposite - hence why people do stupid shit and don't remember it. But that's the very reason it's legal of course, don't want anyone actually becoming more aware of themselves, nonono!
I agree this guy shouldn't be singled out - the drug should!
Don't fall for this demonisation of alcohol propaganda. It's part of the conspiracy to reduce the population.
http://www.poster.net/anonymous/anonymous-beer-helping-ugly-people-have-sex-4900448.jpg
duckandcover
16-10-2009, 05:26 AM
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/richardsladehastings/pissingonwarmemorial.jpg
I would say this prats mental age is in years as his penis is in inches, :D Id be more than happy to teach him some respect :rolleyes:
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 06:03 AM
Here's the real story:
- Elite controllers practice murder, desecration of the dead and violation of sacred spaces as religion for hundreds of years
- Elite controllers manufacture two world wars and other smaller wars throughout the course of the 20th century
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Gullible and compliant public obediently fill Elite cemeteries by the millions
- Elite controllers build monuments to gullible compliant corpses designed to glorify their power over the public and attract more corpses in the future by appealing to romantic notions of 'sacrifice' and 'nobility'
- Elite controllers manufacture two more major wars at the beginning of the 21st century and other smaller conflicts all over the planet
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Elite controllers, through their military arm, use weapons of death to piss on innocent men, women and children all around the planet, blowing their heads apart, ripping their bodies to shreds, and burning them alive
- Elite Masss Media continues to sell this as 'legitimate' to gullible and compliant public
- Elite Mass Media promote the scandal of a young drunk guy urinating on Elite monument to their power over gullible and compliant public
- Gullible and compliant public express shock and outrage over despicable behaviour of drunk teenager
- Gullible and compliant public cry out to the Elite that 'Something must be done'
montag
16-10-2009, 06:08 AM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
Good posting..
hadabusa
16-10-2009, 06:27 AM
hes barefeet?:eek::confused:
atleast he didnt,uh,you know,a turd......
cheeney1
16-10-2009, 06:35 AM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
You've Got To Be Fucking Kidding Right, Typical idiotic response this is.......
Hey I Might come round to your house and Piss all over your front door step and have a dunk and leave it in your letter box eh :rolleyes:
Here's the real story:
- Elite controllers practice murder, desecration of the dead and violation of sacred spaces as religion for hundreds of years
- Elite controllers manufacture two world wars and other smaller wars throughout the course of the 20th century
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Gullible and compliant public obediently fill Elite cemeteries by the millions
- Elite controllers build monuments to gullible compliant corpses designed to glorify their power over the public and attract more corpses in the future by appealing to romantic notions of 'sacrifice' and 'nobility'
- Elite controllers manufacture two more major wars at the beginning of the 21st century and other smaller conflicts all over the planet
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Elite controllers, through their military arm, use weapons of death to piss on innocent men, women and children all around the planet, blowing their heads apart, ripping their bodies to shreds, and burning them alive
- Elite Masss Media continues to sell this as 'legitimate' to gullible and compliant public
- Elite Mass Media promote the scandal of a young drunk guy urinating on Elite monument to their power over gullible and compliant public
- Gullible and compliant public express shock and outrage over despicable behaviour of drunk teenager
- Gullible and compliant public cry out to the Elite that 'Something must be done'
The real story ,only to you Mate some peoples have got to point and blame someone for the big pile of shit the masses have created :cool:
Good posting..
This So Fucking original, coming From An Advisor what the fuck would you know about pain misery and suffering, fuck all thats what :mad:.
This is is most idiotic austrailian thing I have ever heard ..........
vetis
16-10-2009, 06:37 AM
his behaviour is appalling and unforgivable..but yes lets give thieves, burglars and other criminals help, counselling and understanding..because its the system and society at fault not theirs. Makes sense to me :confused:
kurupted_flesh
16-10-2009, 06:39 AM
Shame of drunken student caught urinating on war memorial during 'Carnage' mass pub crawl
In full public view a drunken young man urinates over a city centre war memorial, soaking wreaths of poppies laid as a tribute to the dead.
It's a shocking scene that will appal any person, even in a country where binge-drinking has become an accepted pastime for so many.
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/richardsladehastings/pissingonwarmemorial.jpg
http://bbg-aura.gaia.com/photos/44/437945/small/LaughingSmiley.jpg
That lad's got the idea!
Shame he didnt,uh,you know,a turd......
Agreed!
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 06:39 AM
The real story ,only to you Mate some peoples have got to point and blame someone for the big pile of shit the masses have created :cool:
You're right - the masses have created this problem for themselves, by turning on one another whenever the Elites tell them to.
cheeney1
16-10-2009, 06:46 AM
You're right - the masses have created this problem for themselves, by turning on one another whenever the Elites tell them to.
Sorry did'nt mean to rip your head off, bad week we have the Swine flu in my house hold again :mad:
Don't take it personally you're not a bad chap :D for an Aussie, if you are an Aussie ;)
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:02 AM
Sorry did'nt mean to rip your head off, bad week we have the Swine flu in my house hold again :mad:
Don't take it personally you're not a bad chap :D for an Aussie, if you are an Aussie ;)
All good - except for the swine flu bit :eek:
Who's got it?
duckandcover
16-10-2009, 07:07 AM
You're right - the masses have created this problem for themselves, by turning on one another whenever the Elites tell them to.
What excuse do the masses have in countries not ruled by the elite ? still they rape and slaughter each other, when will you come to terms with the fact that as a species we are fucked up, we dont need to be told to turn on one another, it comes naturally, suppose its easier to blame somebody then you can still live in the dreamworld that life would be some sort of paradise without them.
diaphos
16-10-2009, 07:22 AM
What happened to personal responsibility, there are no excuses for what this student did? It's always someone elses fault
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:24 AM
etc...etc...carry on and get it out of your systems.
cheeney1
16-10-2009, 07:31 AM
All good - except for the swine flu bit :eek:
Who's got it?
I Had it Wifes got it on with the Thread :cool:
1ndividua1
16-10-2009, 09:48 AM
What an utter load of trash some of you spout.
You moan about the 'youth of today' having no respect for others, then shrug when one of them urinates over the dead memorial.
'Oh they died defending this poxy state and their lies'.
So what? They died because they were lied too - but they still died in innocence - believing they were making the world a better place by fending off the evil >insert favourte government fabricated hate group here< It isn't the war fought for it's the lies that made them fight initially.
Fair enough if he was urinating in the face of the government officials themselves, but to shrug this off as more media bs is just bs.
The man showed gross disrespect, he may as well be urinating on a grave itself.
And you talk about 'waking up' indeed.
Nice.
rapunzel
16-10-2009, 10:13 AM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
"The poor guy was pissed off his head ............." You make it sound as if he was a victim and had no choice in the matter. He did have a choice and chose to pickle his brain; not good.
curtaincat
16-10-2009, 10:19 AM
What an utter load of trash some of you spout.
You moan about the 'youth of today' having no respect for others, then shrug when one of them urinates over the dead memorial.
'Oh they died defending this poxy state and their lies'.
So what? They died because they were lied too - but they still died in innocence - believing they were making the world a better place by fending off the evil >insert favourte government fabricated hate group here< It isn't the war fought for it's the lies that made them fight initially.
Fair enough if he was urinating in the face of the government officials themselves, but to shrug this off as more media bs is just bs.
The man showed gross disrespect, he may as well be urinating on a grave itself.
And you talk about 'waking up' indeed.
Nice.
The poor chap was drunk ... end of. And peeing on Obelisks, well, that is just dicky, aint it? :p:)
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 10:52 AM
What happened to personal responsibility, there are no excuses for what this student did? It's always someone elses fault
So the kid was drunk/made a mistake/did something wrong/acted poorly.
Put it in the context of things to get outraged about that are going on in this world and it's so laughably trivial that it's virtually invisible.
This story was brought to you by a giant, hypocritical mass media machine that manipulates you with one hand into getting your rag in a knot and feeling indignant disgust over stupid little inane things like a kid urinating somewhere he shouldn't have, while it goes on manipulating you into submission with the other hand so that it's masters can go on pissing in the face of all humanity by carrying out real, horrific atrocities on a grand scale every day, that the very same media that pretend to be morally shocked over what this kid did, then actively covers up.
It's easy and tempting and very small-minded to chose little, individual targets to direct all your anger and frustration at, and the media knows it, which is why it serves up a steady, daily stream of these idiotically irrelevant 'shock' stories.
passing
16-10-2009, 10:59 AM
^
x2
devanshoom
16-10-2009, 11:59 AM
What a joke.
The poor guy was pissed off his head and made the mistake of urinating on a piece of concrete designated as a monument to glorify sacrifice to the State.
Fuck the State and I hope this young fella doesn't become one more of the endless victims to it by being made into a media scapegoat in yet another contrived, bullshit pseudo-scandal.
I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now.
very much in agreement with this sentiment.....
the nine
16-10-2009, 12:32 PM
indie skinny jeans they stole from there sister and long hair that looks like somthing out of a hentai movie and a hole in there ear to hold a fag.
whats a hentai movie?
the nine
16-10-2009, 12:35 PM
That picture of the wanker urinating makes my blood boil. How dare he show such disrespect. How would he like it if someone pissed on his belongings.
And he is supposed to be intelligent enough to go to uni. God help us in the future.
what you on about..its ver symbolic..its a artistic call to arms..
"when you gotta go, you gotta go!"
:)
the nine
16-10-2009, 12:37 PM
Amen to that. What a stupid drug - and this is what it does, and regularly, too.
It doesn't increase awareness, expand consciousness, it does the opposite - hence why people do stupid shit and don't remember it. But that's the very reason it's legal of course, don't want anyone actually becoming more aware of themselves, nonono!
I agree this guy shouldn't be singled out - the drug should!
yeah..the koran was right after all..
but, remember,
people have, and should have choices
:rolleyes:
the nine
16-10-2009, 12:53 PM
I would say this prats mental age is in years as his penis is in inches, :D Id be more than happy to teach him some respect :rolleyes:
its funny how people get all upset at the memories of the dead soldiers..
they are called heroes, the media plays the merry tune for the dance of nostalgia by those being told how to think..
the soldiers pay with their lives, and in return get a dressed stone monument in some town center, en route to a shopping area.. maybe outside a pub.
but when the wars are being waged, the masses are silent, listening to the politicians declarations of the need to overcome an enemy..yet their own children never go..and nobody gets upset..they just cheer the boys and men off to war for the price of oil and supply of herion with a side issue of breaking a peoples spirit, killing innocents and creating a scene of violence and turbulence which will last for decades, and could possibley end in a third world war, a nuclear war even.. but thats ok, by the mind of th masses..
so long as you..
"just dont piss on those fucking memorial stones!"
icarus
16-10-2009, 01:12 PM
If it was meant as an ironic anti war statement, I support him.
The real disrespect to those dead soldiers is the vermin lining up to place wreaths on monuments that are loomed over by a phallic masonic luciferian obelisk. Isnt' it funny how you never here the controlled media ask just why so many war memorials feature this symbol instead of, say, a cross.
This man merely pissed on the memorial, whereas the vermin elite and their puppet politicians shit on the men it is there to remember, and their families, and the men who are currently serving these creatures in modern wars for profit.
tb303
16-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Is that technically possible?
Hmmm...I'll have a go later and report back.
I couldn't manage it.
Has anyone else ever managed it - males of course?
kweli
16-10-2009, 01:29 PM
I couldn't manage it.
Has anyone else ever managed it - males of course?
I'm interested in your experiment, but yes we need more volunteeers to give a true answer. I'm female so can't really help.
curtaincat
16-10-2009, 01:29 PM
If it was meant as an ironic anti war statement, I support him.
The real disrespect to those dead soldiers is the vermin lining up to place wreaths on monuments that are loomed over by a phallic masonic luciferian obelisk. Isnt' it funny how you never here the controlled media ask just why so many war memorials feature this symbol instead of, say, a cross.
This man merely pissed on the memorial, whereas the vermin elite and their puppet politicians shit on the men it is there to remember, and their families, and the men who are currently serving these creatures in modern wars for profit.
At least you realised that much, and even a cross, eek!
sort of a good post .
haukipesukone
16-10-2009, 01:47 PM
What happened to personal responsibility, there are no excuses for what this student did? It's always someone elses fault
What if someone pisses against a tree? Oh no, the inhumanity!!! I'd consider trees more sacred than any monument.
jonahmc
16-10-2009, 02:02 PM
I would rub this vile scum bags head in his own piss. He is on par with those who desecrate graves. He should be giving a year's hard labour in prison.
hollo
16-10-2009, 02:22 PM
ah come on who hasnt had a little widdle on a monument now and then?:rolleyes:
seriously tho its not desecration - i think there are a lot better places to take
a wee - if we condem and hate all the time it will catch up with us and
we will end up in a really bad place
if anyone knows him - tell him to urinate in a phone box like everyone else :D
the nine
16-10-2009, 02:30 PM
I would rub this vile scum bags head in his own piss. He is on par with those who desecrate graves. He should be giving a year's hard labour in prison.
you sound like you are a real hard case..
how do you manage your ego?
or does your ego control you?
if anyone is pissing on the memory of those men who lost their lives it the governments..lib/lab/con
all causing wars, and maintaining them.
jonahmc
16-10-2009, 02:53 PM
you sound like you are a real hard case..
how do you manage your ego?
or does your ego control you?
if anyone is pissing on the memory of those men who lost their lives it the governments..lib/lab/con
all causing wars, and maintaining them.
Ego does not come into it. I would feel the same way if he was pissing on a any memorial to the dead. One of mine, your's, or anyone's family.
tb303
16-10-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm interested in your experiment, but yes we need more volunteeers to give a true answer. I'm female so can't really help.
kweli, thank you for your support on this pressing matter.
You may find these links of interest:
Urinate and ejaculate at the same time (http://www.steadyhealth.com/Urinate_and_ejaculate_at_same_time_t108536.html)
Hello, I am male who is 16 years old. For months now, whenever I try to masturbate, I end up ejaculating and urinating at the same time. Any idea what the problem is or how to deal with it?
Ejaculation After Urination (http://ehealthforum.com/health/topic40639.html)
have something very strange happening to me. A few years ago I started having a full ejaculation right after I pee. This isn't just a little bit of semen, but a volume more like if I had an actual orgasm during sex. Just as soon as the urine flow stops out comes the streams of ejaculate. Problem is I can't tell that it is happening unless I look down and happen to catch it visually. I am fully flacid and it doesn't feel like anything is occuring. This is especially embarrassing if I don't realize it is about to happen before putting everything back into my pants.
jonahmc
16-10-2009, 03:17 PM
ah come on who hasnt had a little widdle on a monument now and then?:rolleyes:
seriously tho its not desecration - i think there are a lot better places to take
a wee - if we condem and hate all the time it will catch up with us and
we will end up in a really bad place
if anyone knows him - tell him to urinate in a phone box like everyone else :D
It's a memorial to the dead. Same as a gravestone to one of your family. Regardless of being drunk or not there is no excuse for insulting the memory of the dead. If I was in such a drunken state that I did not know what I was doing
and did what this cretin did I would be so ashamed that I beg to be punished. I would recommend the court prison and punish me, such would be my dishonour.
hollo
16-10-2009, 06:31 PM
It's a memorial to the dead. Same as a gravestone to one of your family. Regardless of being drunk or not there is no excuse for insulting the memory of the dead. If I was in such a drunken state that I did not know what I was doing
and did what this cretin did I would be so ashamed that I beg to be punished. I would recommend the court prison and punish me, such would be my dishonour.
i know what you mean as in he shouldnt have done it
i have um... spoken with my "dead" reletives and as i understand it - nothing dies
it just changes - the physical monument is only for ppl to acknowledge and pay respect
for what has happened in history - the truth is - you dont need an expensive monument
to mourn the dead - it dosent affect the dead either way.
if you fight fire with fire (anger with anger whatever) then you will live in a world
full of anger when everyone wants peace
diaphos
16-10-2009, 06:49 PM
What if someone pisses against a tree? Oh no, the inhumanity!!! I'd consider trees more sacred than any monument.
He did not piss up against a tree did he, he was in a city center prob 5 mins from a public house with a toilet dont be such a pillock
That monument might feel important to some people who have lost someone in war even if they did not agree with the war, speaking as someone who has a family member in the armed forces right now facing danger and death i am sick and tired of the liberal left anti war idiots on here who blame the soldiers for what the goverment tell them to do GROW UP
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:02 PM
speaking as someone who has a family member in the armed forces right now facing danger and death i am sick and tired of the liberal left anti war idiots on here who blame the soldiers for what the goverment tell them to do GROW UP
Don't give me any of this 'liberal left anti war idiot' bullshit.
And don't attempt to claim indemnity from a rational argument by invoking the 'family of someone in the armed forces' crap either to evade the point that it's insane to put yourself in a position where you're compelled to slavishly obey the orders of others, or try to argue that once you've signed up and done that, it somehow magically abrogates all of your own moral responsibilities.
diaphos
16-10-2009, 07:06 PM
Don't give me any of this 'liberal left anti war idiot' bullshit.
And don't try to claim indemnity from a rational argument by invoking the 'family of someone in the armed forces' crap either to evade the point that it's insane to put yourself in a position where you're compelled to slavishly obey the orders of others, and that once you've signed up and done that, it somehow magically abrogates all of your own moral responsibilities.
What world do you live in? what do you suggest soldiers do?
GROW UP leave your bedroom and join the real world ,
mephibosheth
16-10-2009, 07:12 PM
'There are people of his age who are currently serving in Afghanistan who have suffered as a result.'
HAHAHAH...what a joke...so some guy pisses on bit of stone idolatry and then--somehow--it makes soldiers fighting in an aggressive economically motivated 'war' 'suffer'?
I think everyone should piss on these stupid monuments. There is nothing appauling or deplorable about this. A guy was drunk and he pissed on some stone. Get over it. Maybe those Islam4UK dudes are correct--implement Sharia and tear down the monuments.
:rolleyes:
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:13 PM
What world do you live in? what do you suggest soldiers do?
GROW UP leave your bedroom and join the real world ,
Join the armed forces or get behind the soldiers, no matter what they're made to do.
Is that what you really mean?
diaphos
16-10-2009, 07:15 PM
Join the armed forces or get behind the soldiers, no matter what they're made to do.
Is that what you really mean?
No of course not i am against the war myself, but we are talking about the real world not some fantasy utopia that some people on here think they live in
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:17 PM
No of course not i am against the war myself, but we are talking about the real world not some fantasy utopia that some people on here think they live in
What's the real world then? You'll have to explain it to me.
mephibosheth
16-10-2009, 07:18 PM
It's a memorial to the dead. Same as a gravestone to one of your family.
And the dead, thank goodness, are quite dead. As in long gone and turned to dust. They have no cares no more, and nothing is relevant to them.
Regardless of being drunk or not there is no excuse for insulting the memory of the dead.
How can a person insult a memory?
'Your memory wears army boots.'
'Yeah, I f####d your mom's memory last night and it loved it!'
If I was in such a drunken state that I did not know what I was doing
and did what this cretin did I would be so ashamed that I beg to be punished. I would recommend the court prison and punish me, such would be my dishonour.
Let's hope you never get into government.
:rolleyes:
diaphos
16-10-2009, 07:40 PM
What's the real world then? You'll have to explain it to me.
The real world is that some young men and women today believe in what there doing or have got very few if any employment options. We could argue all night about the reasons why and would probably agree on 99%, but you and I both know that soldiers are always going to do what they are told and that my friend is the real world, and everyone on this forum in some way does what he or she is told and lives according to societies rules,
We live in a world that most of us can never have any real say on things that’s the real world not some fantasy.
danster82
16-10-2009, 07:46 PM
I dont get why people are defending this guy,
Do they not see the poppie reefs lthat have been laid? what possible excuse have you got to defend this?
If you were to lay flowers on a grave of friend or family then you would be perfectly happy for some drunk to come and piss on the flowers and the grave?
The morals of the war and dieing in the war has nothing do with this situation btw, so I dont know why thats even being brought up.
There is right and theres wrong its pretty simply, please get in touch with your common sense.
diaphos
16-10-2009, 07:49 PM
I dont get why people are defending this guy,
Do they not see the poppie reefs lthat have been laid? what possible excuse have you got to defend this?
If you were to lay flowers on a grave of friend or family then you would be perfectly happy for some drunk to come and piss on the flowers and the grave?
The morals of the war and dieing in the war has nothing do with this situation btw, so I dont know why thats even being brought up.
There is right and theres wrong its pretty simply, please get in touch with your common sense.
They are defending him because he pissed on a war memorial, how pathetic
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 07:54 PM
The real world is that some young men and women today believe in what there doing or have got very few if any employment options.
The old 'I'm a poor, downtrodden retard and killing for hire pays the best, so it's all ok' defence.
Gotcha ;)
We could argue all night about the reasons why and would probably agree on 99%
I doubt it.
but you and I both know that soldiers are always going to do what they are told
Which makes them what exactly? Anything more than complete fucking idiots?
and that my friend is the real world, and everyone on this forum in some way does what he or she is told and lives according to societies rules
Which are enforced by complete fucking idiots like soliders who 'are always going to do what they're told.'
We live in a world that most of us can never have any real say on things that’s the real world not some fantasy.
Not the way you're going, you're right.
Why would you need any say on things, anyway?
You'd be dangerous, based on your current mindset.
marpat
16-10-2009, 07:59 PM
I thought it would be only a matter of time before this headline made its way in here. How happy people are to gloat that this drunken tit decided to piss on a memorial to people who have died in war. Maybe people would be just as amused if he pissed on their parents graves. There is nothing clever about what this guy did and if you look at the rest of the article you see the other idiots on the same night out doing other stupid stuff but nobody seems to mention that because they want to bitch about him being condemned for pissing on something that they resent.
It really says a lot when people get behind that sort of person but fail to see the wrong of what he is doing.
size_of_light
16-10-2009, 08:07 PM
It really says a lot when people get behind that sort of person but fail to see the wrong of what he is doing.
How tiny is your mind?
mephibosheth
16-10-2009, 08:48 PM
No one can soil a memory except the person whose mind contains it.
Pissing on a grave does nothing whatsoever but help the grass grow.
For stones, it does even less.
There's your common sense.
If you put more stock in a stone or an idol than common sense, you need to tear that idol down.
sarrin
16-10-2009, 08:51 PM
despicable behavior! Are some people on this posting advocating this? really?
Yeh well, let us remember we would all most likely be speaking kraut if it wasent for the people marked by that monument. wheres the respect?
diaphos
16-10-2009, 09:00 PM
despicable behavior! Are some people on this posting advocating this? really?
Yeh well, let us remember we would all most likely be speaking kraut if it wasent for the people marked by that monument. wheres the respect?
Bloody hell mate you cant say something like that on here, some people on this forum think giving the German army a hug and waving at the Luftwaffe would have done the trick
outelligent
16-10-2009, 09:01 PM
How tiny is your mind?
Anyone with another opinion to you has a tiny mind..:eek:
How ironic!
frase
16-10-2009, 09:09 PM
Here is how I see it for what it is worth.....
The photo doesn't look good at all....
These guys died which is tragic, sent to die by a load of corrupt scumbags, and their memory should be respected, it wasn't their fault....
I just think the guy was smashed out of his face..hell i have pissed on the landing at home in front of my mother when i was younger, having no idea where I was...and no recollection of it the next day.He was under the influence and I am sure him and his family are mortified today..........
Another question though...........
How the hell did it get in the paper to begin with?
sarrin
16-10-2009, 09:09 PM
But really is this the kind of tosser that rises to the top of our education system? discracefull product of our sometimes to liberal society.
jonahmc
16-10-2009, 09:39 PM
And the dead, thank goodness, are quite dead. As in long gone and turned to dust. They have no cares no more, and nothing is relevant to them.
How can a person insult a memory?
'Your memory wears army boots.'
'Yeah, I f####d your mom's memory last night and it loved it!'
Let's hope you never get into government.
:rolleyes:
You are a cretin. You don't have any decency or honour. Your head is filled with crap. You can't ever grasp the basic concept of human spirituality. You read a few basic books on spirituality and you think you have got it. You havn't. For starters memories are real. We honour our dead, that is what separate us humans from savages and animals.
And so I take it you would be quite happy if some low-life, pissed or daubed shit over one of your family members grave stone?
Well, how about if we take the "it's all an illusion, therefore, don't matter idea" one step further. Memorial stones are inaminate objects, right? But so are peoples cars and houses. So what you are also saying is you would not mind if somone pissed and shat in your car and in your house?
Bet you would that, ha!
frase
16-10-2009, 09:40 PM
But really is this the kind of tosser that rises to the top of our education system? discracefull product of our sometimes to liberal society.
He is at Sheffield uni/Poly-Hardly the "top" of our education system...Im sure he is a nice lad who knows it was wrong-Im sure he just didnt know where he was or what he was doing-That is possible-Too much has been made of this.
he needs to come forward and apologise, but surely there are far more important things to be talking about.
wispa
16-10-2009, 09:45 PM
Give the poor guy a break people.
He was drunk for goodness sake.
I am sure a lot of people have done things they would rather not admit to under the influence of alcohol.
hollo
16-10-2009, 09:45 PM
look at it this way - if i died and someone pissed on my grave...
nothing would happen
ppl would only take offence if they decide to
everything has many perspectives/layers so to shout about 1 of them
and say its right is misleading
rydeon
16-10-2009, 09:46 PM
Indeed. Who sold him all the booze in the first place and who collects huge amounts of tax from that booze, which funds the wars that slain those who we are asked to remember.
Let us have Dutch style coffeeshops if you want to see less of this kind of behavior in Britain. They wont do that though.
You can change the record but you can't change how the typical boozing Brits are wired.
Blair started this 24 hr drinking biz knowing full well that Britain will never be akin to our continental cousins mindset and ideology.
danster82
16-10-2009, 09:56 PM
No one can soil a memory except the person whose mind contains it.
Pissing on a grave does nothing whatsoever but help the grass grow.
For stones, it does even less.
There's your common sense.
If you put more stock in a stone or an idol than common sense, you need to tear that idol down.
no one is putting stock in an idol, no one could care less about the stone grave, what people care about is the respect for others for what it means to them, the fact this needs to be pointed out to you is exactly why you lack common sense.
jonahmc
16-10-2009, 10:13 PM
No one can soil a memory except the person whose mind contains it.
Pissing on a grave does nothing whatsoever but help the grass grow.
For stones, it does even less.
There's your common sense.
If you put more stock in a stone or an idol than common sense, you need to tear that idol down.
How about someone piss over you, then you might grow some common sense.
marpat
16-10-2009, 10:43 PM
How tiny is your mind?
About the same as yours. Does mind actually have a size?
marpat
16-10-2009, 10:46 PM
No one can soil a memory except the person whose mind contains it.
Pissing on a grave does nothing whatsoever but help the grass grow.
For stones, it does even less.
There's your common sense.
If you put more stock in a stone or an idol than common sense, you need to tear that idol down.
Well why dont we all pop round and piss on your families graves then if you dont mind. At the end of the day that guy is a dick.
marpat
16-10-2009, 10:49 PM
Here is how I see it for what it is worth.....
The photo doesn't look good at all....
These guys died which is tragic, sent to die by a load of corrupt scumbags, and their memory should be respected, it wasn't their fault....
I just think the guy was smashed out of his face..hell i have pissed on the landing at home in front of my mother when i was younger, having no idea where I was...and no recollection of it the next day.He was under the influence and I am sure him and his family are mortified today..........
Another question though...........
How the hell did it get in the paper to begin with?
The full article was about students binge drinking and creating all sorts of problems. The papers were carrying various pictures including ones of young woman so pissed they couldnt stand up. Nice to see that these so called educated type know how to spend their grants then bitch about having nothing. That guy was just one of the losers. I bet he feels like a right tit when he looks back.
jakemaverick
16-10-2009, 10:58 PM
well...maybe he was just dying for a piss!!! and whatever did happen to freedom of speech?
kweli
16-10-2009, 10:58 PM
The full article was about students binge drinking and creating all sorts of problems. The papers were carrying various pictures including ones of young woman so pissed they couldnt stand up. Nice to see that these so called educated type know how to spend their grants then bitch about having nothing. That guy was just one of the losers. I bet he feels like a right tit when he looks back.
Where's the worst/best place you've ever pissed marpat? Come on.. we've all got a story? You tell first then I'll follow. Could make a very interesting thread this.. :rolleyes:
leviathanstaar
16-10-2009, 11:52 PM
I agree with certain posters.
$#%$ the state and their fake memorial for the people USED in whatever fake confilct that was about.
Since what he did causes damage that is only symbolic, lets look at the rest of the symbolism involved shall we?
Wait we dont even have to, we know the state and their military "memorial" are a fraud.
the nine
17-10-2009, 02:06 AM
Give the poor guy a break people.
He was drunk for goodness sake.
I am sure a lot of people have done things they would rather not admit to under the influence of alcohol.
alleluia
some people on here would inflict harm on this guy if they had the oppertunity..:rolleyes:
size_of_light
17-10-2009, 05:29 AM
Anyone with another opinion to you has a tiny mind..:eek:
No.
But anyone who chooses to work themselves up into a disgusted rage over a kid pissing somewhere he shouldn't have, does have a tiny mind, and is a moral coward, if he doesn't then also express a relative level of outrage (i.e. x 3 million ) over an incident such as this:
Israel bombs Gaza cemetery - YouTube
You only need to watch the first 13 seconds if you have a short attention span.
If you want something that actually is ironic, how about a media that covers up and conceals vision of similar atrocities going on all around the world, and then cynically tosses you a photograph of a kid taking a piss on a monument, so that you can all scream and rant and rage at how wrong he was to do that.
hadabusa
17-10-2009, 06:08 AM
these monuments are sacrifice plants for the rulers.
a disgrace if you ask me.
yeah, he pissed on it,so what.
our rulers piss on us 247 and tell us its raining.
ill piss on clintons grave too,btw:cool:
marpat
17-10-2009, 09:38 AM
I agree with certain posters.
$#%$ the state and their fake memorial for the people USED in whatever fake confilct that was about.
Since what he did causes damage that is only symbolic, lets look at the rest of the symbolism involved shall we?
Wait we dont even have to, we know the state and their military "memorial" are a fraud.
But are those who go their to honour their dead friends and family frauds because they gather there? dont forget that many of the dead are not buried in Britain so its not like a person can visit their dead friends grave so they honour their memory by going to such monuments. Are these people wrong who wish to honour their friends and family killed in war and if not then why should it be wrong for them to place wreaths on such a monument?
Again I dont understand why people are acting as it that dickhead actully did nothing wrong. I wonder if he feels like an idiot when he saw his photo in the paper.
I also notice a lack of comments about all the other crap that went on. It would appear that the anti-government type prefer to focus on this guy because he did something that they respect, which shows a lot about their morality. Pissing on a memorial to the dead, what a heroic way to show disrespect for the rulers :rolleyes:
marpat
17-10-2009, 09:47 AM
No.
But anyone who chooses to work themselves up into a disgusted rage over a kid pissing somewhere he shouldn't have, does have a tiny mind, and is a moral coward, if he doesn't then also express a relative level of outrage (i.e. x 3 million ) over an incident such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oXFRTXi2tk
You only need to watch the first 13 seconds if you have a short attention span.
If you want something that actually is ironic, how about a media that covers up and conceals vision of similar atrocities going on all around the world, and then cynically tosses you a photograph of a kid taking a piss on a monument, so that you can all scream and rant and rage at how wrong he was to do that.
First 13 seconds of what?
I wasnt under the impression that I was screaming and ranting. That is more the area of the deranged conspiracy theorists.
How is the mdeia covering things up? perhaps it is just a fact that they do not go out with every single patrol.
I tell you who the moral cowards are. Every person in here who goes on about death and murderous conspiracies, chemtrails, etc. but who doesnt do anything about it except talk in a forum. The keyboard warrior generation full of disgust and contempt for the system but who dont even know what the outside of their own doors looks like. I dont see mass protests about chemtrail and about the royals being blood drinking reptiles yet people constantly go on about these things. Lets see it then hero, lets see you do something that counts. That guy pissing on a memorial was no hero. If he did it out of contempt then he was a coward because he done it when there was little chance of retribution, and that is what marks out the coward, those who wont act because they fear a backlash. Perhaps Icke should do such a thing to to show his disapproval, or maybe he is not that lacking in stupidity.
hawks29
17-10-2009, 09:56 AM
Here's the real story:
- Elite controllers practice murder, desecration of the dead and violation of sacred spaces as religion for hundreds of years
- Elite controllers manufacture two world wars and other smaller wars throughout the course of the 20th century
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Gullible and compliant public obediently fill Elite cemeteries by the millions
- Elite controllers build monuments to gullible compliant corpses designed to glorify their power over the public and attract more corpses in the future by appealing to romantic notions of 'sacrifice' and 'nobility'
- Elite controllers manufacture two more major wars at the beginning of the 21st century and other smaller conflicts all over the planet
- Elite controllers sell these engineered conflicts as 'legitimate struggles' to a gullible and compliant public through it's propaganda arm, the Mass Media
- Elite controllers, through their military arm, use weapons of death to piss on innocent men, women and children all around the planet, blowing their heads apart, ripping their bodies to shreds, and burning them alive
- Elite Masss Media continues to sell this as 'legitimate' to gullible and compliant public
- Elite Mass Media promote the scandal of a young drunk guy urinating on Elite monument to their power over gullible and compliant public
- Gullible and compliant public express shock and outrage over despicable behaviour of drunk teenager
- Gullible and compliant public cry out to the Elite that 'Something must be done'
But the guys who went fighting didn't know that at the time and do deserve some respect, no matter how much you disagree with what went on.In my eyes, to piss on the poppies is disgusting, somebody has laid them there as a mark of respect.
However, for it to make the national papers is strange and will have something to do with that alcohol points card thing that the labour guy was on about and probably a raise in tax to combat binge drinking.
montag
17-10-2009, 09:56 AM
Again I dont understand why people are acting as it that dickhead actully did nothing wrong. I wonder if he feels like an idiot when he saw his photo in the paper.
I think that most of us on the thread agree that the actions of that guy were wrong, he was pissed and fucked up I don't think anyone disagrees with that. It is more the way this stuff is put out there to cause outrage that is the issue, it's another distraction. Personally I'd like to see less of these kinds of stories posted here, they are by there very nature designed to be divisive as it causes the reader to take a position either way for or against. I'd like to think that a lot of us here are beyond that by now and see this for what it is, another distraction.
cheeney1
17-10-2009, 10:05 AM
well...maybe he was just dying for a piss!!! and whatever did happen to freedom of speech?
more like freedom of piss :cool:
boy better know
17-10-2009, 10:09 AM
I agree with him pissing on it.
Lets build shrines to honor the men who bravely refused to go and kill their fellow men when their leaders told them to instead.
hawks29
17-10-2009, 10:12 AM
No one can soil a memory except the person whose mind contains it.
Pissing on a grave does nothing whatsoever but help the grass grow.
For stones, it does even less.
There's your common sense.
If you put more stock in a stone or an idol than common sense, you need to tear that idol down.
I would suggest that if you had taken the time to go there and lay down a wreath for someone you had loved and lost due to that heinous war and someone came and pissed on it, you would feel considerably different.
marpat
17-10-2009, 10:19 AM
I think that most of us on the thread agree that the actions of that guy were wrong, he was pissed and fucked up I don't think anyone disagrees with that. It is more the way this stuff is put out there to cause outrage that is the issue, it's another distraction. Personally I'd like to see less of these kinds of stories posted here, they are by there very nature designed to be divisive as it causes the reader to take a position either way for or against. I'd like to think that a lot of us here are beyond that by now and see this for what it is, another distraction.
That was not the only photo having anything to do with that student night out. The fact is that papers sell by grabbing people attention and what is more likely to seel, him pissing on a memorial or his slashing in a phone box. I think it is more to do with money and sales than anything else. The actual article wasnt even about him specifically but about the cheap drinks.
hawks29
17-10-2009, 10:19 AM
I agree with him pissing on it.
Lets build shrines to honor the men who bravely refused to go and kill their fellow men when their leaders told them to instead.
You think that the guys who went to war knew that they were being set-up. Look how the information about these things still hasn't reached the mass population despite it being here on the internet. All they had was govenment propaganda from newspapers and radio.
They went to war thinking they were defending their families and their country. Your lack of empathy and understanding of what these monuments mean to the families who lost someone is quite sad actually.
marpat
17-10-2009, 10:23 AM
I agree with him pissing on it.
Lets build shrines to honor the men who bravely refused to go and kill their fellow men when their leaders told them to instead.
A person can diasgree with the nature of a memorial but to say you agree with that sort of behaviour speaks more of your own moral weakness than any sense of altruism. Is that how people make their feelings known, by pissing on something when they are drunk then scuttling away like a rat?
size_of_light
17-10-2009, 10:25 AM
First 13 seconds of what?
I wasnt under the impression that I was screaming and ranting. That is more the area of the deranged conspiracy theorists.
How is the mdeia covering things up? perhaps it is just a fact that they do not go out with every single patrol.
I tell you who the moral cowards are. Every person in here who goes on about death and murderous conspiracies, chemtrails, etc. but who doesnt do anything about it except talk in a forum. The keyboard warrior generation full of disgust and contempt for the system but who dont even know what the outside of their own doors looks like. I dont see mass protests about chemtrail and about the royals being blood drinking reptiles yet people constantly go on about these things. Lets see it then hero, lets see you do something that counts. That guy pissing on a memorial was no hero. If he did it out of contempt then he was a coward because he done it when there was little chance of retribution, and that is what marks out the coward, those who wont act because they fear a backlash. Perhaps Icke should do such a thing to to show his disapproval, or maybe he is not that lacking in stupidity.
Just total silliness.
marpat
17-10-2009, 10:26 AM
Just total silliness.
And your post was just full of illuminating points :rolleyes:
size_of_light
17-10-2009, 10:32 AM
And your post was just full of illuminating points :rolleyes:
You're not sticking to the topic. You're just mixing and matching different things to confuse the issue. Replying with references to chemtrails, Icke, blood-drinking reptiles...pure silliness.
marpat
17-10-2009, 10:41 AM
You're not sticking to the topic. You're just mixing and matching different things to confuse the issue. Replying with references to chemtrails, Icke, blood-drinking reptiles...pure silliness.
It was an example about how people claim all sorts of evil are going on yet doing nothing about it except type. You spoke of moral cowardice and I just showed how people in here can also be accused of such. My point was to not act as if you are somehow a moral lighthouse when you too can be accused, although in another way.
The fact is that you seem to support a guy who may have acted not out of any sense of morality but out of pure stupidity. Who knows, if he was sober and reading about that in paper then he might have thought it was stupid too. The full article was about more than just one guy but you lot have just focussed on the bit you want to which is typical, just ignore the full picture of what the article was about and try and make an issue of one aspect of it.
tusme
17-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Where's the worst/best place you've ever pissed marpat? Come on.. we've all got a story? You tell first then I'll follow. Could make a very interesting thread this.. :rolleyes:
Hmm...High School showers, after sports, p!ssing up me mates leg :D...not before it was done to me of-course... :D
tb303
17-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Pissed student bangs head and then pisses on war memorial.
11 pages of argument over this?
WTF are you lot on?
Here's some real fucking news:
The Deceit of Depleted Uranium use in Afghanistan - Part 1 (http://www.paltelegraph.com/opinions/editorials/2611-the-deceit-of-depleted-uranium-use-in-afghanistan-part-1)
size_of_light
17-10-2009, 10:57 AM
It was an example about how people claim all sorts of evil are going on yet doing nothing about it except type. You spoke of moral cowardice and I just showed how people in here can also be accused of such. My point was to not act as if you are somehow a moral lighthouse when you too can be accused, although in another way.
You do what you can, when and where you can. Your example collapses in a heap, because you presume that anyone typing on an internet forum about things you personally disagree with somehow equates to them doing nothing else at all.
I think you've got an expectation in your mind that everyone who criticises the power structures should be out marching in the streets or chaining themselves to military installations (probably so you can then shout at the TV and tell your wife that they're all irresponsible hippie terrorists anyway and the government should crack-down on the lot of them).
The fact is that you seem to support a guy who may have acted not out of any sense of morality but out of pure stupidity.
I don't 'support him'. It's just a dumb, drunk kid who pissed somewhere he shouldn't have and was unlucky enough to get photographed doing it. Maybe you took my "I feel like pissing on a monument myself right now' statement from my original post literally.
Who knows, if he was sober and reading about that in paper then he might have thought it was stupid too. The full article was about more than just one guy but you lot have just focussed on the bit you want to which is typical, just ignore the full picture of what the article was about and try and make an issue of one aspect of it.
Do you have the link to the full article? It's not in the OP.
diaphos
17-10-2009, 11:24 AM
Just one of the people the memorial is dedicated to
Private Levers
He served in the notoriously dangerous Ypres Salient in the Great War and was killed on October 26 1917.He was one of three
Brothers who served in the conflict, which claimed 16 million lives. Edwin's brother Robert served with the 10th battalion Durham Light Infantry but was killed aged 27 in April 1917 - six months before his older brother. The third brother served with the Royal Engineers and survived the war. Private Ievers was survived by three children he was buried at the famous Tyne Cot war graves cemetery - the largest British armed forces graveyard with 12,000 burials - in Flanders after his battalion suffered staggering losses in the muddy swamps of Passchendaele.His unit moved to the front on October 18 in advance of an all-out attack on a line of enemy pill boxes.They took up a position south of the Houthulst Forest and on October 26 went over the top where they were met by a hail of machine gun fire. More than 1,000 allied troops died on the first day of the battle, including 100 members of the 1st/7th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers.
Thst is just one mans story, I mention this becuase the man who urinated on the memorial urinated on a wreath laid by a member of Private levers family
jonahmc
17-10-2009, 12:36 PM
Just one of the people the memorial is dedicated to
Private Levers
He served in the notoriously dangerous Ypres Salient in the Great War and was killed on October 26 1917.He was one of three
Brothers who served in the conflict, which claimed 16 million lives. Edwin's brother Robert served with the 10th battalion Durham Light Infantry but was killed aged 27 in April 1917 - six months before his older brother. The third brother served with the Royal Engineers and survived the war. Private Ievers was survived by three children he was buried at the famous Tyne Cot war graves cemetery - the largest British armed forces graveyard with 12,000 burials - in Flanders after his battalion suffered staggering losses in the muddy swamps of Passchendaele.His unit moved to the front on October 18 in advance of an all-out attack on a line of enemy pill boxes.They took up a position south of the Houthulst Forest and on October 26 went over the top where they were met by a hail of machine gun fire. More than 1,000 allied troops died on the first day of the battle, including 100 members of the 1st/7th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers.
Thst is just one mans story, I mention this becuase the man who urinated on the memorial urinated on a wreath laid by a member of Private levers family
And that piss head pisser and all who condone his moronic behaviour would not be fit to tie this soldiers boot laces. The only good that they could be used for is for there head to be used as mop to clean up this piss.
hollo
17-10-2009, 04:26 PM
And that piss head pisser and all who condone his moronic behaviour would not be fit to tie this soldiers boot laces. The only good that they could be used for is for there head to be used as mop to clean up this piss.
it is good to know that ppl do change - we are all making the long journey
from the dark into the light :)
Ian2day
17-10-2009, 05:06 PM
I take it that the 10th battalion Durham Light Infantry has been disbanded. Otherwise I expect we would of heard something taking place. Or perhaps they are not the sort to take insult, no matter the provocation. Infinite love aint it great.
dooby
17-10-2009, 07:08 PM
Problem: Student urinates on memorial statue
Reaction: Disgust, outrage
Solution: Enforce ID cards, possibly ban student piss ups in future
ge_mike
17-10-2009, 07:37 PM
I don't care about that piece of concrete, but I'm disgusted he defaced the beautiful poppies.
size_of_light
17-10-2009, 07:41 PM
I don't care about that piece of concrete, but I'm disgusted he defaced the beautiful poppies.
Not the poppies! :eek:
Chip him!
NOW!!!!! :mad:
EDIT: Break his nose first!
marpat
17-10-2009, 07:42 PM
Problem: Student urinates on memorial statue
Reaction: Disgust, outrage
Solution: Enforce ID cards, possibly ban student piss ups in future
Wow that is so original
dooby
17-10-2009, 08:02 PM
Wow that is so original
Hey, thanks! I wasn't trying, but glad you noticed :D
entrangermercenary
17-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Problem: Student urinates on memorial statue
Reaction: Disgust, outrage
Solution: Enforce ID cards, possibly ban student piss ups in future
Dooby, any 1 in ??
entrangermercenary
17-10-2009, 09:33 PM
What I will say on the subject is the dead soldiers wherever they are :) are probably having a bit ov a laugh thinking hey we are dead, now we are being pissed on... can it get any worse !! :)
marc_o
17-10-2009, 10:11 PM
Shame of drunken student caught urinating on war memorial during 'Carnage' mass pub crawl
In full public view a drunken young man urinates over a city centre war memorial, soaking wreaths of poppies laid as a tribute to the dead.
It's a shocking scene that will appal any person, even in a country where binge-drinking has become an accepted pastime for so many.
Ironically, it will come as no surprise to discover the man concerned is a 19-year-old university student who was taking part in an organised mass pub crawl in Sheffield
For their money they got an official T-shirt and access to all seven club and bar venues involved in the event.
As dozens of students in Sheffield were drinking themselves into oblivion similar scenes were taking place in Cardiff where around 3,000 university students took part in a Carnage UK event there
As the night progressed two people were taken away in ambulances and one was arrested by police in the Welsh capital for a nightclub assault on a woman.
Splashed across the back of the official t-shirt was a list of 'tasks,' including 'have fun with a fresher, harass a steward and snog five randoms,' which according to the event's Facebook page needed to be fulfilled 'by those getting in to the spirit of things.'
Many of the students were in fancy dress to adhere to the 'doctors and nurses' theme.
By the end of the night at least half of the students who stumbled out of Embrace nightclub in Sheffield city centre appeared worse the wear for drink.
None more so than Philip Laing, 19, a sports technology student at Sheffield Hallam University.
At around midnight he was in such a shocking state that he curled up for a sleep in front of a shop window, only to be woken by a group of giggling girls. Laing then ran across the street, falling down and hitting his head on the pavement in the process.
He was then helped to his feet and walked over to the First World War memorial in Baker's Pool where he urinated over the monument.
People in the area seemed oblivious to his actions. But the incident was reported to security staff who washed down the memorial with buckets of water. South Yorkshire Police said if he had been seen he would have received a fixed penalty fine.
He described the student's actions as a 'despicable act.'
He said: 'Whether he has intentionally done it or not realised because of drink it is deplorable and outrageous.
'There are people of his age who are currently serving in Afghanistan who have suffered as a result.
This is a war memorial and stands for the sacrifices people have given in the past and continue to do so today. Behaviour like this is appalling.
The company, headed by managing director Paul Bahia, 29, has faced criticism from student groups for being 'irresponsible' and there have been calls for such events to be banned.
The website warns students that 'ID will be required at all venues' and states that 'Carnage encourages responsible drinking.'
Free soft drinks and discounted food is available to revellers, while guidelines advise those taking part to 'drink in moderation and do not binge.' It also insists the venues do not offer cut-price drinks promotions and unpaid stewards are on hand to 'supervise' and monitor drinkers going from one venue to another
http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp71/richardsladehastings/pissingonwarmemorial.jpg
Personally I see nothing wrong with taking a wazz in the streets. Who cares if it's on a piece of stone thats been singled out to 'honour' the unfortunate fools who died in war. Its a bloody rock.
Its not like he's pissed on the bereaving family members front door. That would be unacceptable.
antinwo
17-10-2009, 10:14 PM
where's the worst/best place you've ever pissed marpat? Come on.. We've all got a story? You tell first then i'll follow. Could make a very interesting thread this.. :rolleyes:
pmsl :D
hollo
17-10-2009, 10:42 PM
i still cant believe they pixelated his wee!
hitithard
17-10-2009, 11:11 PM
Personally,
I think he is a dumb fuck for urinating on it. I know most of you who have posted here, if not all, don't give two fucks that he did...but i donno..I think that this is a wasted comment.I can't be assed arguing why he should of or shouldn't off. Its a stupid arguement, seeing as in the end of the day its a rock on the ground.
But let me take one guess that his granddads name wasn't on the memorial and that his mum didn't lay down the poppies.
passing
18-10-2009, 12:00 AM
I wouldn't do it, I've never done it, it'd be better if he hadn't done it, but he did it and it doesn't really matter.
tb303
18-10-2009, 04:04 AM
i still cant believe they pixelated his wee!
Yeah, not as bad as the piss stains, is it?
icarus
18-10-2009, 11:39 AM
Ah, the old "not fit to tie the boots of brave soldiers" line.
Soldiers in the world wars were mostly drafted and didn't really want to be there. If they had known the true background to that conflict, and most conflicts, they would probably have refused to go.
My Grandfather was dragged off by the vermin who created that war and all wars, and he woke up big time in a POW camp. He came back militant and educated about the true nature of our world, something that I have inherited from him, but sadly died just after returning, from the effects of five years incarceration.
Soldiers these days join up for money, low education or ambition, low self esteem, or becuase they gravetate towards an industry that will indulge and reward their darker motivations.
Many soldiers full enjoy the pissed up steaming drunk culture in the forces, and the easy availability of drugs in places like Afghanistan. If such people get iced serving demons, good.
The only people who worship our military are the vermin elite and their slaves in the media and the general misinformed and ignorant, not to mention largley uncaring, cattle public.
mrerisian
18-10-2009, 07:35 PM
I wouldn't do it, I've never done it, it'd be better if he hadn't done it, but he did it and it doesn't really matter.
Now why didn't I think of saying that?
Good post.
unusual_suspect
18-10-2009, 07:39 PM
i still cant believe they pixelated his wee!
Yes, that was the icing on the cake for me :D
My 10 year old son caught me reading this thread and was shocked and outraged at the young man urinating on the poppy wreaths!