A look into how Handlers might use NLP

[siphon880di]

"The Door

This is another pattern that works with fractionation. You bring someone into a deep relaxed state, bring them up, and take them back under again. Each time they go in deeper.

Think about how a woman flirts with a man. She will give him a bit, then pull back, give him a bit more, pull back some more… it works quite well in making the man interested in her.

This pattern is designed to place an anchor of deep fear and loss in a woman after you’ve slept with her. It will link a great deal of pain to ‘the door’.

After you have sex with a woman, say, ‘what’s over there’? and point to the door. Continue with ‘you know, I’m a really positive person, but can you imagine, I mean, I don’t know what can happen from day to day. What would happen if I walked out that door, and as I left, it slammed shut, and no matter what you could never open it. You would never be able to look in my eyes again, you’d never be able to hear my voice or feel my touch.’ At this point she’ll probably say she doesn’t like this, and you cuddle with her and have sex and make her feel great again.

Afterwards when you’re resting, say ‘You know, a really terrible thing happened the other day. A friend of mine got hit by a truck. It’s almost as if… it would be horrible <point to the door> that even if you were to get that door open, you could search and never find him. At this point she would get upset again most likely, so kiss her and stop for a bit.

Keep doing this a few times, up and down, then get up and go to the bathroom and SLAM THE DOOR. This completes the routine and the anchor is now firmly in place. Any time she gives you a hassle in the future you need only to point to the door and the feelings of pain and loss will come back.

This can create slaves with this so please use your discretion."

[thetonic]

this is actually a quality example

this type of thing is applied to us in our daily lives in a much more discreet fashion

basically we are all under mind control , some more than others

[siphon880di]

Thanks. Not a lot of people seem to be saying anything here though :/

[greydove]

Or...................you could just relate to people with honesty, openess and compassion. There's a novel idea :rolleyes:

[deathcultreject]

"The Door

This is another pattern that works with fractionation. You bring someone into a deep relaxed state, bring them up, and take them back under again. Each time they go in deeper.

Think about how a woman flirts with a man. She will give him a bit, then pull back, give him a bit more, pull back some more… it works quite well in making the man interested in her.

This pattern is designed to place an anchor of deep fear and loss in a woman after you’ve slept with her. It will link a great deal of pain to ‘the door’.

After you have sex with a woman, say, ‘what’s over there’? and point to the door. Continue with ‘you know, I’m a really positive person, but can you imagine, I mean, I don’t know what can happen from day to day. What would happen if I walked out that door, and as I left, it slammed shut, and no matter what you could never open it. You would never be able to look in my eyes again, you’d never be able to hear my voice or feel my touch.’ At this point she’ll probably say she doesn’t like this, and you cuddle with her and have sex and make her feel great again.

Afterwards when you’re resting, say ‘You know, a really terrible thing happened the other day. A friend of mine got hit by a truck. It’s almost as if… it would be horrible <point to the door> that even if you were to get that door open, you could search and never find him. At this point she would get upset again most likely, so kiss her and stop for a bit.

Keep doing this a few times, up and down, then get up and go to the bathroom and SLAM THE DOOR. This completes the routine and the anchor is now firmly in place. Any time she gives you a hassle in the future you need only to point to the door and the feelings of pain and loss will come back.

This can create slaves with this so please use your discretion."

A typical example of malicious bullying.

We should do more to liberate and protect the targets.

[venusinpisces]

Siphon, I'm not quite sure what the purpose of posting this here is...:confused: Do you mean use at your discretion, and if so, why would anyone wish to use this technique? It sounds awful. Please excuse me if I am misinterpreting your words. This technique seems to be a variation of the typical NLP idea that you have to insult and degrade women in order to secure their interest. Or at least be the sort of dominant, alpha male type that always succeeds in life. Someone named Mastermagus, or something like that, was recently advocating these techniques. :rolleyes: I am interested in the idea that maybe we actually do have some kind of predatory drive encoded into human sexuality. If so, then this could tie into gnostic ideas about how our world is a fallen one that functions as a feeding ground for entities who may in turn have genetically engineered us in a way that would funnel our pranic output back into the karmic cycle. It is interesting to see how popular culture, music especially, has progressed from the innocent puppy love of the 50s into the sometimes grotesque displays of vapid sexuality that are so prevalent today. This is a bit of a tangent, but I think it ties back into this NLP thing because it appears to be a psychological operation designed to prod young men into relating to women in a very predatory way. We are bieng told that this is natural, but I don't think it is. There are so many sensitive guys out there that just don't do things this way, and unfortunately they are feeling that there is something wrong with them when in fact it may have more to do with being more spiritually evolved than their peers! All these books like "the Game" tie right into the ideas of evolutionary biologists who think that rape was a necessary and useful part of how humans developed.

[tracker]

"The Door

This is another pattern that works with fractionation. You bring someone into a deep relaxed state, bring them up, and take them back under again. Each time they go in deeper.

Think about how a woman flirts with a man. She will give him a bit, then pull back, give him a bit more, pull back some more… it works quite well in making the man interested in her.

This pattern is designed to place an anchor of deep fear and loss in a woman after you’ve slept with her. It will link a great deal of pain to ‘the door’.

After you have sex with a woman, say, ‘what’s over there’? and point to the door. Continue with ‘you know, I’m a really positive person, but can you imagine, I mean, I don’t know what can happen from day to day. What would happen if I walked out that door, and as I left, it slammed shut, and no matter what you could never open it. You would never be able to look in my eyes again, you’d never be able to hear my voice or feel my touch.’ At this point she’ll probably say she doesn’t like this, and you cuddle with her and have sex and make her feel great again.

Afterwards when you’re resting, say ‘You know, a really terrible thing happened the other day. A friend of mine got hit by a truck. It’s almost as if… it would be horrible point to the door that even if you were to get that door open, you could search and never find him. At this point she would get upset again most likely, so kiss her and stop for a bit.

Keep doing this a few times, up and down, then get up and go to the bathroom and SLAM THE DOOR. This completes the routine and the anchor is now firmly in place. Any time she gives you a hassle in the future you need only to point to the door and the feelings of pain and loss will come back.

This can create slaves with this so please use your discretion."

Yep - it is a good example alright -- a good one .

Also -- a good example of a control freek completley afraid to let nature take its natural course is my opinion .
This type of activity would belong to a real creepy person , one that "plays tricks on the mind" to falsely implant falsehood because nature would make any other person see them for the real creep they are .

Im not troling you Siphon , as said its a good example of how it could be used , I just feel sorry for those that would do it in that way .

yet folk like me would spot those patterns of behavour a mile away -----basicly because I am aware nearly all the time , yet a poor unsuspecting person be them male or female might not and this is why meees calls the operator a creepy no hoper who needs to basicly plant falsehood and lies because true nature would have them outcast from any natural occurances as far as a relationship is concerned .Thats why in truth it is not being clever ------its deviouse desceit .

:cool:

[siphon880di]

Siphon, I'm not quite sure what the purpose of posting this here is...:confused: Do you mean use at your discretion, and if so, why would anyone wish to use this technique? It sounds awful. Please excuse me if I am misinterpreting your words. This technique seems to be a variation of the typical NLP idea that you have to insult and degrade women in order to secure their interest. Or at least be the sort of dominant, alpha male type that always succeeds in life. Someone named Mastermagus, or something like that, was recently advocating these techniques. :rolleyes: I am interested in the idea that maybe we actually do have some kind of predatory drive encoded into human sexuality. If so, then this could tie into gnostic ideas about how our world is a fallen one that functions as a feeding ground for entities who may in turn have genetically engineered us in a way that would funnel our pranic output back into the karmic cycle. It is interesting to see how popular culture, music especially, has progressed from the innocent puppy love of the 50s into the sometimes grotesque displays of vapid sexuality that are so prevalent today. This is a bit of a tangent, but I think it ties back into this NLP thing because it appears to be a psychological operation designed to prod young men into relating to women in a very predatory way. We are bieng told that this is natural, but I don't think it is. There are so many sensitive guys out there that just don't do things this way, and unfortunately they are feeling that there is something wrong with them when in fact it may have more to do with being more spiritually evolved than their peers! All these books like "the Game" tie right into the ideas of evolutionary biologists who think that rape was a necessary and useful part of how humans developed.

I did not say to use at your own discretion. That's part of the quote, so it came from the same source that gave this technique.

I thought it's implicit that posts like these are for educational purposes only. I'm not advocating the use of it. But I want people to become more aware of this technique. I'm probably not going to post another one because you said this. People will have a good feel with just one example.

I do not agree that this is related to the Game. An alpha male does not need to control and manipulate a women. Alpha males aren't needy. They might appear like jerks, but they're actually flirting with a women. "You are nearly as tall as me. I like tall girls. Are those heels 4 or 5 inches?" When the women gives signs of interests, then the alpha male can stop flirting in the same way. This is called "negging". That's how flirting can be done at the top of the dating league between hot women and successful men, and it is quite expected of confident men because of the screwed up western culture. But the Game is not the same as placing anchors in someone's mind. Placing anchors in someone's mind is "mind control".

If you read the technique more carefully, you'll see that this technique is best done between handlers and celebrities, or between couples. That does not mean this is done for the dating scene. If you're thinking during one-night stands, yea maybe if you're that desperate.

[venusinpisces]

Ok, that was my misunderstanding. It was just a little confusing because you weren't citing the source of the quote and it seemed a bit random. I would have to disagree about this technique not having any similarity to the Game though. Just about all of those "seduction" ploys are in fact based in NLP. I think it is a great example of how mind control techniques are gradually seeded into mass society. Alpha male seduction maneuvers can function as a way to normalize these types of behaviors so that when they are openly used by politicians and entertainers, your average every day person will just say "oh that's no big deal, all the successful people do it". :cool:

[siphon880di]

Ok, that was my misunderstanding. It was just a little confusing because you weren't citing the source of the quote and it seemed a bit random. I would have to disagree about this technique not having any similarity to the Game though. Just about all of those "seduction" ploys are in fact based in NLP. I think it is a great example of how mind control techniques are gradually seeded into mass society. Alpha male seduction maneuvers can function as a way to normalize these types of behaviors so that when they are openly used by politicians and entertainers, your average every day person will just say "oh that's no big deal, all the successful people do it". :cool:

NLP seems to be more effective if you want to do that. Not everything is a conspiracy. But we can learn to disagree. :)

[thetonic]

Siphon, I'm not quite sure what the purpose of posting this here is...:confused: Do you mean use at your discretion, and if so, why would anyone wish to use this technique? It sounds awful. Please excuse me if I am misinterpreting your words. This technique seems to be a variation of the typical NLP idea that you have to insult and degrade women in order to secure their interest. Or at least be the sort of dominant, alpha male type that always succeeds in life. Someone named Mastermagus, or something like that, was recently advocating these techniques. :rolleyes: I am interested in the idea that maybe we actually do have some kind of predatory drive encoded into human sexuality. If so, then this could tie into gnostic ideas about how our world is a fallen one that functions as a feeding ground for entities who may in turn have genetically engineered us in a way that would funnel our pranic output back into the karmic cycle. It is interesting to see how popular culture, music especially, has progressed from the innocent puppy love of the 50s into the sometimes grotesque displays of vapid sexuality that are so prevalent today. This is a bit of a tangent, but I think it ties back into this NLP thing because it appears to be a psychological operation designed to prod young men into relating to women in a very predatory way. We are bieng told that this is natural, but I don't think it is. There are so many sensitive guys out there that just don't do things this way, and unfortunately they are feeling that there is something wrong with them when in fact it may have more to do with being more spiritually evolved than their peers! All these books like "the Game" tie right into the ideas of evolutionary biologists who think that rape was a necessary and useful part of how humans developed.

wow... excellent post

if you only knew how right you are ... this world is NOT what it appears

THIS is the 'awakening' that the illuminati are desperately trying to stifle right now... The knowledge of this manipulation and how it is affecting our 'reality'

[deathcultreject]

I did not say to use at your own discretion. That's part of the quote, so it came from the same source that gave this technique.

I thought it's implicit that posts like these are for educational purposes only. I'm not advocating the use of it. But I want people to become more aware of this technique. I'm probably not going to post another one because you said this. People will have a good feel with just one example.

Be careful about that, and denounce such things in big letters.

Some targets are very damaged, even more angry, trapped in knee jerk reactions, and dangerous on more than one plane of existence.

As for the Alpha male stuff in pua, they've just stalked men who women trust and presumed that everything they do is 'alpha male'.

Why?

Because they're dogmatists for 'Social Darwinism', and they can't even look at people having fun without imposing their delusion that there has to be a power structure.

[deathcultreject]

I do not agree that this is related to the Game. An alpha male does not need to control and manipulate a women. Alpha males aren't needy. They might appear like jerks, but they're actually flirting with a women. "You are nearly as tall as me. I like tall girls. Are those heels 4 or 5 inches?" When the women gives signs of interests, then the alpha male can stop flirting in the same way. This is called "negging". That's how flirting can be done at the top of the dating league between hot women and successful men, and it is quite expected of confident men because of the screwed up western culture. But the Game is not the same as placing anchors in someone's mind. Placing anchors in someone's mind is "mind control".

Alpha males do need to control and manipulate women, and (in the UK at least) grown women iether hate alpha males or don't take them seriously.

Your opinions come from misrepresentations spread by mind control, intended to make the victims spread these opinions further.

You might find a sad crowd in the younger generation who fell for it (because young people are easier to brainwash) but redefining 'Alpha Male' as 'whatever women feel comfortable around' is a dangerous and stupid thing to do, especialy with mind control.


Edited to add,

In the human species, Alpha males are old men in suits who start wars.

You tell me why a mind control movement with it's roots in MKULTRA would distort the facts to show the human alpha male as the ultimate sex god . . .

[deathcultreject]

THIS is the 'awakening' that the illuminati are desperately trying to stifle right now... The knowledge of this manipulation and how it is affecting our 'reality'

We need to find ways to study it without getting 'converted' and thinking it's cool.

They wouldn't have released this stuff through NLP unless the overall thing was developed to make people more suggestable.

"I'll just hypnotise the seminar so that everyone can 'learn' faster" :rolleyes:

[thetonic]

We need to find ways to study it without getting 'converted' and thinking it's cool.

They wouldn't have released this stuff through NLP unless the overall thing was developed to make people more suggestable.

"I'll just hypnotise the seminar so that everyone can 'learn' faster" :rolleyes:

no one is saying this si 'cool', quite the opposite actually ...

I think the OP was just giving examples and insight into how NLP works in a broader scope than its often referred to ...

[dusan]

Siphon, I'm not quite sure what the purpose of posting this here is...:confused: Do you mean use at your discretion, and if so, why would anyone wish to use this technique? It sounds awful. Please excuse me if I am misinterpreting your words. This technique seems to be a variation of the typical NLP idea that you have to insult and degrade women in order to secure their interest. Or at least be the sort of dominant, alpha male type that always succeeds in life. Someone named Mastermagus, or something like that, was recently advocating these techniques. :rolleyes: I am interested in the idea that maybe we actually do have some kind of predatory drive encoded into human sexuality. If so, then this could tie into gnostic ideas about how our world is a fallen one that functions as a feeding ground for entities who may in turn have genetically engineered us in a way that would funnel our pranic output back into the karmic cycle. It is interesting to see how popular culture, music especially, has progressed from the innocent puppy love of the 50s into the sometimes grotesque displays of vapid sexuality that are so prevalent today. This is a bit of a tangent, but I think it ties back into this NLP thing because it appears to be a psychological operation designed to prod young men into relating to women in a very predatory way. We are bieng told that this is natural, but I don't think it is. There are so many sensitive guys out there that just don't do things this way, and unfortunately they are feeling that there is something wrong with them when in fact it may have more to do with being more spiritually evolved than their peers! All these books like "the Game" tie right into the ideas of evolutionary biologists who think that rape was a necessary and useful part of how humans developed.



now i know im not crazy!!!!

thank you for such a wonderful post

[siphon880di]

Thank you thetonic.