View Full Version : Is David Icke the Second Coming of Christ?
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
freespark
30-08-2007, 11:52 AM
David Icke doesn't want to be a prophet. He is here to point us in the right direction...it's up to us to do with his information what we will.
spiraltrance
30-08-2007, 11:56 AM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
Personaly I'd say yes and no. I believe the second coming is an internal one and it will happen in all of humanity sooner or later. It's just happened in David Icke alot sooner than everyone else.
I'm no expert on christianity but I think the idea of an external individual being the second coming was a distorted teaching by the orgainsed church as a way of keeping hold of it's powerbase. The last thing organised religion needs is people discovering that God/Second Coming lies within and not in buildings, scripture and the clergy.
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 11:57 AM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
The Jesus fable suggests that people, no matter how rotten they are, will have all their evil deeds wiped clean, just as long as they submit to the ways of Jesus. Basically fostering the idea that one needn't worry too much about inner work, and that they needn't worry too much about responsibility because Jesus forgives.
I don't see how that is even remotely similar to David. David is not a messiah. David writes books, and talks to people, but what we do with the information that he presents is up to us individually. You'll notice that no two David Icke fans are the same. That's the idea. Be yourself, and don't conform to fit in.
It's a wonderful thing :)
synergy777
30-08-2007, 11:59 AM
icke is every clever, anyone clever, knows the tyranny of the majority and would never trust the people. look at every good person who ever came, what did the people do? name one who died happy, old, after doing good, not one, in the whole history of mankind, why, i tell you why, people are weak, and succumb to evil, why, they want money/power, its the reptile core. its the reptile core that has the survival instinct, fight/flight. so when people are snakes, its wrong, snakes only attack when scared, people are worse than snakes, they are people. people get upset, but fuck them, sensitive imbeciles, lol.
seanx
30-08-2007, 12:03 PM
You're barking up the wrong tree.
Also, it would be impossible for icke to be the second coming
of Christ when he believes the whole second coming of Jesus is
a complete con- an illusion created to keep people trapped in
the 'Matrix' - the limited illusionary world we have created all
around us.
auron
30-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Is David Icke the Second Coming of Christ?
No. It is Fantana. :D
seanx
30-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Tinmenace wrote:
The Jesus fable suggests that people, no matter how rotten they are, will have all their evil deeds wiped clean, just as long as they submit to the ways of Jesus. Basically fostering the idea that one needn't worry too much about inner work, and that they needn't worry too much about responsibility because Jesus forgives.
Excellent.
That's exactly the real purpose of this so-called religion.
Keep people looking OUTWARDS - EXTERNALLY.
seanx
30-08-2007, 12:08 PM
No. It is Fantana.
Now...that is the TRUTH!
synergy777
30-08-2007, 12:08 PM
the second coming, is every persons awakening, eg, you need to change. salvation is not a service/product, which with one easy payment, you get. its you and you alone, who must change, only you can save your soul.
yashuah gave the guidelines, like every teacher, he worked them out after suffering/observing/learning. which in this age of everybody being modern, educated, well one would think it would be very easy, lol
see times ain't changed, the products, material things have changed, but human nature hasn't, not one iota. man has not evolved at the rate of technology etc. changing the outside, doesn't change the inside., and yet in this age where image is king, its the complete opposite, outside is everything.
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Tinmenace wrote:
Excellent.
That's exactly the real purpose of this so-called religion.
Keep people looking OUTWARDS - EXTERNALLY.
Precisely!
Keep it controlled by institutionalizing it, and voila! Mass hypnosis.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
30-08-2007, 12:16 PM
I don't think he is a prophet.
He is merely "tuned-in" to the right frequency. That's to say:
He is on a enlightened path meant for most of us(if not all). Instead of becoming obbsessed with the physical and taking out the crazy parts and making millions by selling the books through well known illuminati publishers,
he is saying the entire thing. And telling us one thing that no one else was saying: You don't have to believe me, I'm just giving you information, that's all.
Of course he sells his books and dvd's ect.. But he needs to survive aswell. In a physical sense ofcourse. Why doesn't he just move to the rainforest and live amongst tribes? 1: His choice.. 2: Why should he? Who says you really have to be in one specific place to be properly "tuned-in"?
freespark
30-08-2007, 12:34 PM
the second coming, is every persons awakening, eg, you need to change. salvation is not a service/product, which with one easy payment, you get. its you and you alone, who must change, only you can save your soul.
yashuah gave the guidelines, like every teacher, he worked them out after suffering/observing/learning. which in this age of everybody being modern, educated, well one would think it would be very easy, lol
see times ain't changed, the products, material things have changed, but human nature hasn't, not one iota. man has not evolved at the rate of technology etc. changing the outside, doesn't change the inside, and yet in this age where image is king, its the complete opposite, outside is everything.
This idea is constantly perpetuated by the 'powers that be' from ever angle. Pop Idol, X-Factor, Britains Next Top Model, The Apprentice, Project Runway, Top Chef, Hells Kitchen, there are loads of these kind of shows.
If you watch these 'programmes' just take a look at how the 'panel' judges some of the people (i admit some of them a really crap singers, models, business people and wat not). It's done in a condesending/you will never make it in this business/you are worthless etc manner which subtley 'programs' the viewer that if you don't 'fit in' in you place in society, you are worthless. Image image image.
I am gonna use the system to make a nice buck...i have been egging my mate James to enter next years X Factor as he is a very good singer (also posseses sweet boyish charm and good looks, he is the perfect marketable 'product' for the teenage demographic). When he gets his Million Pound record contract (if he wins) we are gonna milk the system and play our own game. Sell dodgy 'snapshots' of James getting up to all sorts of nonsense to all the papers...make up shit, play the press and make a fortune. Then scarper out of this shit hole for warmer climes with a bag full of dosh!!
If it wasn't for David, how many of us would believe that reptilian bloodline families control the world through secret societies?
David Icke doesn't want to be a prophet. He is here to point us in the right direction...it's up to us to do with his information what we will.
I know he doesn't want to be one, he's just a guy with a message. Wasn't Jesus just a guy with a message? Forget what modern Christianity has turned the legacy of Jesus into, the man at the time was a humble man like David. He said he was the son of God, so did David - and perhaps both are misinterpreted by some people.
Precisely!
Keep it controlled by institutionalizing it, and voila! Mass hypnosis.
I don't believe Jesus or David want(ed) to start a religion.
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 12:46 PM
I don't believe Jesus or David want(ed) to start a religion.
Neither of them did.
Neither of them did.
Yes, that's what I said!
reptilianshapeshifter
30-08-2007, 12:52 PM
I don't think David is the 2nd coming because (as far as I know), the man isn't a very good carpenter.
I don't think David is the 2nd coming because (as far as I know), the man isn't a very good carpenter.
lol
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 12:55 PM
Yes, that's what I said!
Oh.
I don't want to be argumentative or anything, but are you saying that David DID start a religion but didn't mean to....or ?
I don't understand :confused:
Oh.
I don't want to be argumentative or anything, but are you saying that David DID start a religion but didn't mean to....or ?
I don't understand :confused:
No I'm saying that neither David or Jesus wanted to start a religion, a religion came out of Christianity, David has not started a religion. Both are prophets, men with messages to help mankind.
monique
30-08-2007, 01:00 PM
Project Bluebeam:
Uploading a holographic image of a blond (?) christ (Christian -flawed- iconography) making believe that ""He" has returned. (check out the Maitreya story) Ascended masters' trickery...
OR: Michael Tsarion is the second coming... :cool:
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 01:06 PM
No I'm saying that neither David or Jesus wanted to start a religion, a religion came out of Christianity, David has not started a religion. Both are prophets, men with messages to help mankind.
Gotcha.
Thanks
Project Bluebeam:
Uploading a holographic image of a blond (?) christ (Christian -flawed- iconography) making believe that ""He" has returned. (check out the Maitreya story) Ascended masters' trickery...
OR: Michael Tsarion is the second coming... :cool:
Yeah I read about that, I think they'll try that. But, I believe that David Icke is the prophesied Second Coming of Christ. If we all listen to his message, mankind can be 'saved' from the fascist world police-state. He is enlightening us all to how the system really is.
synergy777
30-08-2007, 01:57 PM
monique who you descrbe is christ to europe, but antichrist to us asiatic. the white christ is false, its the antichrist. or would they have different versions for different regions, lol
seanx
30-08-2007, 01:59 PM
David Icke is the prophesied Second Coming of Christ
I still don't get that.
How can he be should a thing when such a thing as a 'second
coming', as Icke points out, is pure nonsense.
I don't know where you're coming from? Do you know much
about icke's work or are you new to this?
binhdinh_khiwarrior
30-08-2007, 02:09 PM
we all are, icke included.
synergy777
30-08-2007, 02:15 PM
second coming, or the tenth avatar, al mahidi , al issa, and al dajal. lets wait for them, do fuck all, and when they don't turn up, cry like the bitches we are and embrace slavery to a satanic empire. thats what the nwo wants you do, "to do nothing", whilst waiting for quick fix from a superman, as it means you don't have to do anything. whilst you wait, they plot and proceed.
how about in this throw away age, some collective responsiblity. people see kids as throw away products, spouses as throw away products, parents as throw away products, pets as throw away products, the planet as a throw away product. people treat things like this, when they are to be frank, fuck all themselves, they are worse than animals. animals live in harmony with nature, we can't even manage our lives, finances, planet etc. we are at the bottom of spiritual life, it can't get no worst than this. people talk about like pilots when they can't even crawl.
or we could realise the same things they did, that we all have a soul, we all need to change, we need to utilise our brain/soul, we need to improve, we need compassion/vision, we need courage/wisdom. then maybe, we might be offer more resistence.
right now the nwo is a bowling ball, and the people are pins/skittles. however we starting to offer more resistence than the pins, lol
auron
30-08-2007, 02:25 PM
we all are, icke included.
Bingo! :)
mada88
30-08-2007, 02:32 PM
Most people don't want to be saved though. They are quite happy the way things are because they have not known of anything else. Its not about saving people. The masses are not going to wake up together. Do you need saving and if so what from?
When you read the end of infinte love you will read about davids take on purpose which is very good.
monique
30-08-2007, 02:46 PM
QUOTE=synergy777;112013]monique who you descrbe is christ to europe, but antichrist to us asiatic. the white christ is false, its the antichrist. or would they have different versions for different regions, lol[/QUOTE]
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Hiya Syn,
I know.. that's why I said flawed iconograpy.
It'll be interesting to see how these matters plays out, these are exciting days to be alive! If they're gonna pull 'a bluebeam' on us I will just die laughing.. :rolleyes:
reptilianshapeshifter
30-08-2007, 03:03 PM
Do you think in a thousand years it will be illegal to show David Icke in cartoon depictions with entire nations going ape shit about it ? :D
auron
30-08-2007, 03:06 PM
:D
joss classey
30-08-2007, 03:08 PM
we will all become the second coming of christ
auron
30-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Yes, like this:
http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/24573/2000149123179367988_rs.jpg
I still don't get that.
How can he be should a thing when such a thing as a 'second
coming', as Icke points out, is pure nonsense.
I don't know where you're coming from? Do you know much
about icke's work or are you new to this?
I know David's work and I'm not new to it, I understand what he says about us all being infinite consciousness and possibility, I think that in this plane we are in he is the new Jesus, the new prophet of our time. I know David himself may not realise he is or believe it.
He the part of 'us' that is pioneering to a new, free existence for us.
james777
30-08-2007, 06:30 PM
The Jesus fable suggests that people, no matter how rotten they are, will have all their evil deeds wiped clean, just as long as they submit to the ways of Jesus. Basically fostering the idea that one needn't worry too much about inner work, and that they needn't worry too much about responsibility because Jesus forgives.
I don't see how that is even remotely similar to David. David is not a messiah. David writes books, and talks to people, but what we do with the information that he presents is up to us individually. You'll notice that no two David Icke fans are the same. That's the idea. Be yourself, and don't conform to fit in.
It's a wonderful thing :)
You're way off!! If you'd actually have read the teachings of Jesus, you'd realize that you're just talking shit...
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 06:32 PM
You're way off!! If you'd actually have read the teachings of Jesus, you'd realize that you're just talking shit...
Nah Ah! :eek:
lydia78
30-08-2007, 06:42 PM
The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
What if the second coming is the rising of the goddess energy, to rebalance the masculine and feminine energy on the planet?
David has already said time and time again, we are all the messiah, we are all equal in infinite love and potential.
seanx
30-08-2007, 06:44 PM
Tinmenace hit it exactly on the head.
I've never read the whole con of this man-made religion expressed
so clearly, and so exactly in only a few sentences.
Enlightening stuff.
The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
What if the second coming is the rising of the goddess energy, to rebalance the masculine and feminine energy on the planet?
David has already said time and time again, we are all the messiah, we are all equal in infinite love and potential.
I understand what you mean, however, without David, how 'awake' would we be now?
spiraltrance
30-08-2007, 06:45 PM
I understand what you mean, however, without Davis, how 'awake' would we be now?
There are other ways to awaken than David Icke. I recieved my awakening from doing Ouija Boards. Other and lots of people recieve it through meditation.
What I am saying has nothing to do with man-made religion, it's about the pioneering part of us, the prophet of out time.
seanx
30-08-2007, 06:49 PM
lydia78 wrote:
The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
What if the second coming is the rising of the goddess energy, to rebalance the masculine and feminine energy on the planet?
David has already said time and time again, we are all the messiah, we are all equal in infinite love and potential
That's why its worth going on forums like this.
You get all the shit from the usual suspects - but read stuff like the
above - and what tinmenace just wrote- and it's worth waddling
through all the shit to get at these gems.
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 06:51 PM
The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
What if the second coming is the rising of the goddess energy, to rebalance the masculine and feminine energy on the planet?
David has already said time and time again, we are all the messiah, we are all equal in infinite love and potential.
Well said indeed!
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 06:51 PM
Tinmenace hit it exactly on the head.
I've never read the whole con of this man-made religion expressed
so clearly, and so exactly in only a few sentences.
Enlightening stuff.
:)
Wade through all the shit? There is no need to use language like that!
lydia78
30-08-2007, 07:00 PM
I understand what you mean, however, without David, how 'awake' would we be now?
Again, because we are equal and because our essential truth is love, waking up happens naturally anyway....although david has helped speed up the process and also bought likeminded people together on this forum so we can help each other out. :)
synergy777
30-08-2007, 07:02 PM
not masculine energy is bad, not all feminine enrgy is good, again trapped in duality, the secret is to balance yourself. balance the light/dark, the compssion with the shiva. like a hippy with shotgun, lol
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 07:12 PM
not masculine energy is bad, not all feminine enrgy is good, again trapped in duality, the secret is to balance yourself. balance the light/dark, the compssion with the shiva. like a hippy with shotgun, lol
:D
thirdwave
30-08-2007, 07:13 PM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
this is it... IF Jesus existed I still don't think he was what the bible makes out anyway.... I think he pretty much represents an age of many prophets and preachers.... a time when "christ" was understood. (or what ever it was called, probably depending on what part of the earth you were on) ... Jesus as well as many other people probably did feel the need to let this info out to people and try and help an awakening....
funny enough around the time where the Sumerian's claimed the star (nibiru) passed through us.... and now planex x is here within the same time frame...
so Im sure David Icke like a few others are like Jesus (if he existed) but not the Jesus that is made out in the bible.... just a man who has felt huge inspiration and has the desire to share it with people for the benefit of the world.
this is one of the reasons i get bad vibes from the church and when i see that dead body on the cross.... for me people who kneel before it are un knowingly submitting to a symbol which basically says death to enlightenment.
Were people like David Icke so advanced years ago that they did have magical abilities?, who knows..
but lets not forget the stuff on Jesus that is worth while taking note of, very much shows him as a person who does not see him self as a leader or an icon of worship, even though he supposedly new he would have to die for our sins?.... but something went wrong somewhere along the line.
synergy777
30-08-2007, 07:13 PM
one hand doobie blunt, the other hand rocket launcher, lol
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 07:16 PM
one hand doobie blunt, the other hand rocket launcher, lol
Stopppp! :D:D:D:D:D
BRB Loo!!! :p
lydia78
30-08-2007, 07:18 PM
one hand doobie blunt, the other hand rocket launcher, lol
ROFL:D
must be transparent!!:D
synergy777
30-08-2007, 07:30 PM
the bible/church tried to make jesus a submissive guy, so that you followed him and gave alleigence to the elite who killed him. they could hardly write, yep he exposed, us, hated us, we killed him, and then decided to paint ourselves as the good guys, so we could use you, your energy for empire. do miltary ads say go die for rich people, go die for oil?
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4799/jesuschekl9.gif
also jesus wasn't even his name, theres no j in hebrew alphabet, and j was recent addition to the english language, also he wasn't a blonde haired dude. yashuah ben yosef, yashua. yashuah as in (yahweh is salvation). what teh vatican created was MC-Christianity, lok at teh churches actions, what did yashuah say, "test them by the fruits". see the elite take the piss so much, they put his words, knowing full when, you will not listen to his words, but listen to the priests/elite. they know blind faith overpowers logic/intelligence, why, well they pander to the ego, via cultural/eurocentric doctrine. and boy did they do a sterling job, lol you have to realise the english bible is from greek, and their bible came from palestine/dead sea etc. they only made this new version in 325 ad, at the council of nicea. its a funny joke really.
yashuah was the ultimate rebel, anti authority, detested empire/clergy/elite stuck up for the oppressed. how many people do this?
seanx
30-08-2007, 07:33 PM
Wade through all the shit? There is no need to use language like that!
Sorry, S1lm, I was not referring to your thread - but referring to all the
crap certain people purposely spam on this forum.
You're new here- in a few days - you'll see what I'm getting at..
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 07:54 PM
The first never came and if he came was a disaster for the people.
Because someone has distorted his words. people like Paolo..
Falsity in bible manipolation.......
synergy777
30-08-2007, 07:57 PM
paolo formerly saul, then after damascus, lightning, oops i am good guy.
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 08:02 PM
[QUOTE=lydia78;112267]The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
Manipolation energy (energy that control the earth from the beginning)
is female. Male are under the control of the female energy when they go to war. So female energy control us and use male for their purpose.
Female energy became demonized because is not as robotic as male.
This is dangerous if you want the control.
thirdwave
30-08-2007, 08:28 PM
So who says the second coming is male?
I think the first coming was male and female and i think the second will be the same...
auron
30-08-2007, 08:29 PM
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spiraltrance
30-08-2007, 08:35 PM
[QUOTE=lydia78;112267]The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
That's one way of looking at it. I'd say the outer world is dominated by the yang male principle but the inner world is dominated by the yin female principle.
lydia78
30-08-2007, 08:38 PM
[QUOTE=yeiayel;112366]
That's one way of looking at it. I'd say the outer world is dominated by the yang male principle but the inner world is dominated by the yin female principle.
That's interesting, could you elaborate?:)
zigzagz
30-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Personally I think the Jesus story is only told to fool people into thinking there is only one or two
Jesus(if he was called that) was a starseed that was here to usher in the new age but he was not the only one is his time either and I believe there are many here now...JMHO
[QUOTE=yeiayel;112366]
That's one way of looking at it. I'd say the outer world is dominated by the yang male principle but the inner world is dominated by the yin female principle.
Inner world and outer world? I thought there was only one world, the one we create with our brains? What do you mean? The underground facilities in our planet where other creatures live, is this what you are referring to by 'inner world?'
thirdwave
30-08-2007, 08:56 PM
with out male there is no female and with out female there is no male....
none is more powerful than the other and none more important...
the reason why females are in this day and age more "precious" (if you know what i mean) is because at the moment there is not an even spread.... male is the dominant and the world is dominated by male energy.... so there for, if you have lots of Vit C and not enough Vit B, then anything with Vit B in is going to taste really good but you need both... if that makes sense.
Personally I think the Jesus story is only told to fool people into thinking there is only one or two
Jesus(if he was called that) was a starseed that was here to usher in the new age but he was not the only one is his time either and I believe there are many here now...JMHO
I don't think there are many people who would 'qualify' for 'like Jesus' status. Who else is another 'Jesus?'
with out male there is no female and with out female there is no male....
none is more powerful than the other and none more important...
the reason why females are in this day and age more "precious" (if you know what i mean) is because at the moment there is not an even spread.... male is the dominant and the world is dominated by male energy.... so there for, if you have lots of Vit C and not enough Vit B, then anything with Vit B in is going to taste really good but you need both... if that makes sense.
I don't think we should get bogged-down with worrying about male or female, as you rightly said, male/female, black/white, yin/yang, love/hate, etc.
tinmenace
30-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Well, if anyone had read Fantana's new book, they would know that Jesus lives right here in America. Jeez!
:D
lydia78
30-08-2007, 09:04 PM
I don't think we should get bogged-down with worrying about male or female, as you rightly said, male/female, black/white, yin/yang, love/hate, etc.
Yeah, it's more about integration of energy and balance anyway....:)
spiraltrance
30-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Ok by outer world I mean the physical world we see outwardly. Generaly controlled by the active yang principle and an enviroment more suited to men. By inner world I mean the internal world of emotion, feeling and intuition generaly under the yin influence and a enviroment more suited to women.
The idea that women are less powerful than men is a bit of an illusion they are generaly less powerful outwardly but generaly more powerful inwardly and vice versa.
Bear in mind these are subtle metaphors i'm trying to convey so don't see it as a physcial man vs women.
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 09:28 PM
[QUOTE=spiraltrance;112402]
Inner world and outer world? I thought there was only one world, the one we create with our brains? What do you mean? The underground facilities in our planet where other creatures live, is this what you are referring to by 'inner world?'
????????????? I never say this!
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 09:40 PM
Yes I think there is only one world.outer is the mirror of inner world.
Who manipulate the inner world manipulate outer world.
They use inner manipulation (female energy) to use male for outer domination.
mahabaratara
30-08-2007, 09:51 PM
No...
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 09:56 PM
Great point_ mahabarata you are worse than me that i don't know english:eek::D
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 09:59 PM
hey there is an identity robbery! to spiraltrance
mahabaratara
30-08-2007, 09:59 PM
A question was asked and I answered it succintly...:)
yeiayel
30-08-2007, 10:02 PM
A question was asked and I answered it succintly...:)
I have faith in you i belive and I do not require explanation:o you are my master.
mahabaratara
30-08-2007, 10:04 PM
No Worries man...See you around...
Take it easy...;)
Ok by outer world I mean the physical world we see outwardly. Generaly controlled by the active yang principle and an enviroment more suited to men. By inner world I mean the internal world of emotion, feeling and intuition generaly under the yin influence and a enviroment more suited to women.
The idea that women are less powerful than men is a bit of an illusion they are generaly less powerful outwardly but generaly more powerful inwardly and vice versa.
Bear in mind these are subtle metaphors i'm trying to convey so don't see it as a physcial man vs women.
Thanks for clarifying, I disagree with emotion and feeling being more suited to women, it's not a gender issue. I feel a lot, and I'm male.
astrocowboy
30-08-2007, 10:54 PM
He would poop laughing at that idea.
Jesus was a fairy tale people... know that!
C
auron
30-08-2007, 10:56 PM
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/jesusCum.jpg
zigzagz
31-08-2007, 02:32 AM
I don't think there are many people who would 'qualify' for 'like Jesus' status. Who else is another 'Jesus?'
Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Zoroaster.....the ones of our time have yet to be identified maybe Icke is one maybe not time will tell....
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
you are not serious? (i hope)
a few thousand reptilian-believers doesn't make him Hristos
chappel
31-08-2007, 03:05 AM
Icke exposes christianity though. Its just another form of sunworship.
Icke exposes christianity though. Its just another form of sunworship.
and?
chappel
31-08-2007, 04:53 AM
im just curious as to why people think hes jesus lol
earthseed
31-08-2007, 05:07 AM
David said if Jesus was actually real he shouldn't come back because we would just kill him again so I think there's your answer. Any higher level beings come here and I think they'd think twice about coming back to the ghetto of the cosmos. People bake puppies in ovens for fun here not a cute place.
jinjo5
31-08-2007, 09:36 AM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
Dont be silly;)....if david has read that he'll be cringing in a corner somewhere.
Anyway,there cant be a second coming,there wasnt even a first coming.
Which david says himself.
sevenworlds
31-08-2007, 10:54 AM
It's a state of consciousness. Does it really matter if Jesus was a real person or not? Whether his name was Jesus or not?
It's the state of being the stories represent that matters. Which is heavily obscured by the structures of the religions. Through all the ages there have always been a few 'prophets', who were no more than ordinary people, but who had access to the enlightened state of consciousness and tried to share that with the rest of humanity. We all have that power within us and these people have come at various times to remind us of that. Mostly, we haven't listened and more often than not, killed them.
So if there was a guy called Jesus then I don't think it's completely crazy to compare Icke to him, in the sense they both seem to be vehicles through which consciousness flows. Maybe the only difference is the level of enlightenment (how long and how deeply you can dwell there). Some are constantly in that state and others flit in and out. I see Icke as the latter. But I see both as messengers for consciousness. And there are a few others out there too in this time.
It's kind of laughable though anyway, because Jesus could be among us right now and if they had trouble acknowledging his presence the first time round, how the hell would anyone recognise him in this insane culture we live in? :D
synergy777
31-08-2007, 11:58 AM
auron you are an official twat for posting that pic, why don't do one of the devil. you peeps are lost, real fucking lost. you guys never attack evil, becuase you are spineless, attack somoene meek, well it makes you feel hard don't it.
auron
31-08-2007, 12:12 PM
I'm not attacking anyone mate! :D
I'm sure Jesus would have found that picture to be hilarious!
lydia78
31-08-2007, 12:15 PM
Dont be silly;)....if david has read that he'll be cringing in a corner somewhere.
Anyway,there cant be a second coming,there wasnt even a first coming.
Which david says himself.
I agree Jinjo5....but will they listen???
How many times do you have to quote david icke is not the second coming before people get it?:eek:
tinmenace
31-08-2007, 12:16 PM
I agree Jinjo5....but will they listen???
How many times do you have to quote david icke is not the second coming before people get it?:eek:
Right! What tf is it that disables their understanding of this simple fact?
lydia78
31-08-2007, 12:38 PM
Right! What tf is it that disables their understanding of this simple fact?
Could be lack of reading and understanding davids's work, his books or listening to what the guy is actually saying, versus some sort of temporial madness where the interpretation of david's work gets lost in the wogan hype of a million yrs ago?:eek:
Dunno.....what do you reckon Tin?;)
The whole idea of David being the second coming is totally ridiculous in my eyes, total waffle....
yeiayel
31-08-2007, 12:54 PM
Luca's gospel.(Luca, 19:27) Jesus Say: Get my enemies here: they don't want
submission in front of me and kill cutting someone's throat. In front of my eyes
So Jesus is evil!
bigus_dickus
31-08-2007, 01:09 PM
I'm not attacking anyone mate! :D
I'm sure Jesus would have found that picture to be hilarious!
nah, he would have found it to be ghey :p
yeiayel
31-08-2007, 01:11 PM
sorry, but behind jesus image from the bible there is catholic church
they are cold blood killer. million and million lose the life
jesus is not only evil, is a Demon
yeiayel
31-08-2007, 01:31 PM
Official jesus of the gospel is also a paedophile. I don' remember the parable
but there is.
Open your mouth..... children... and the behind also..
lifeofbrian
31-08-2007, 02:36 PM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
I doubt David Icke is a prophet.
Reason:
A river does not drink.
vienna
31-08-2007, 04:05 PM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
if you like this sort of speculation check out the BIlly Meier; The Talmud of Jmmanuel on video google
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=The+Talmud+of+Jmmanuel+
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=billy+meier++
vienna
31-08-2007, 04:33 PM
more speculation on this type of theme:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8157572997376243550&q=the+meier+case&total=96&start=10&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=5
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
truthseeker1980
31-08-2007, 04:38 PM
Like what someone said earlier in the posts, jesus is a fairy tale, he maybe someone who was exposing the truth he may not have even existed, why would david be the second coming of some bulcrap story years ago with no evidence that any of it is true. It was a story to further the sun worship religions of the reptilians. If he did exist and was exposing what maybe david is exposing then he was used as a scape goat to create a new sun worship religion, just a normal man like david, so it depends how you look at the question.
One thing i have been thinking about over the last few weeks though is, if the NWO really have a plan for 2012 and be it the playing out of the religious texts, a fake alien landing or whatever and the project goes in their favour with regards to keeping the masses unconcious to what is really going on then maybe they will use david as a scape goat in 200-300 years and change christianity to Ickanity, that's the only way i can see that David could be considered as the second coming.
teslafire
31-08-2007, 06:52 PM
So who says the second coming is male?
With the power of tantra, anything is possible.
synergy777
31-08-2007, 07:01 PM
its funny when informed people don't differentiate between vatican mithras jesus and yashuah. you actually take the piss out of yourself, you display the magnitude of your ignorance.
yeiayel
31-08-2007, 07:18 PM
Never mind if Jesus of the catholic church is tottaly different from the "real"
Jesus. Is in the name of jesus they try to destroy the people.
I know, jesus never told what the jesus of catholic church say but most people only knows this jesus no others
satori zen
31-08-2007, 07:21 PM
David Icke remarks upon his own experiences and his own take on things. By his own admission, he cares little for what other people do with what he writes/says.
Is he a prophet of any kind?
No.
He's a guy trying to make sense of his place in the Universe. And in that his findings are as relevant as any man/woman. He can articulate his thoughts better than most, this is all that makes him stand out from the crowd.
yeiayel
31-08-2007, 08:28 PM
With the power of tantra, anything is possible.
Teslafire: I never told...."who say the second coming is male"... There is a mistake on the forum page i think.
horus21
31-08-2007, 08:52 PM
I ask this in all seriousness. There have been many prophets over the ages, and now we have someone who is like Jesus in some ways: he has a following, he is ridiculed and derided by the establishment and most people. I believe he this the now prophet for our time, the Second Coming of Christ, to lead us through this time into a 'new world' where this fascist illusion comes crashing down and mankind is finally free and at peace.
Your quite right, theres infinite supporting evidence. He is actually Jesus now.
megafish33
31-08-2007, 08:57 PM
No.
mahabaratara
31-08-2007, 10:17 PM
http://www.foulmouthshirts.com/jesusCum.jpg
You are an idiot...
auron
31-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Thank you. :rolleyes:
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/walt.jpg
You are an idiot...
synergy777
31-08-2007, 10:36 PM
maha funny how us non christians get mad over yashuah, makes you wonder, ..... we know he was one us, we are a loyal bunch, lol
auron behave, now go and post a funny pic of bush, as penance.
auron
31-08-2007, 10:39 PM
I know what you're saying mate! :)
I apologize if people got "offended" by that picture.
synergy777
31-08-2007, 10:45 PM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1592/minime2bk0.png
auron
31-08-2007, 10:48 PM
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/07/bushbabyAP130706_479x600.jpg
herebynightfall
31-08-2007, 10:52 PM
This thread applies
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8741
give it a read, and some feedback please !
Auron, great photograph above
hahaha babies can sense his unlovingness.
yeiayel
01-09-2007, 01:30 AM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa35/gabriele_07/buonafortuna.jpg
lydia78
04-09-2007, 07:29 PM
The second coming as in my mind always been about the return of a higher frequency which is not assigned to any one particular individual but a collective effort wherein we reconnect to the long lost truth.
So who says the second coming is male?
The earth has been dominated by masculine energy while the female energy became demonized by religon.
What if the second coming is the rising of the goddess energy, to rebalance the masculine and feminine energy on the planet?
David has already said time and time again, we are all the messiah, we are all equal in infinite love and potential.
Bump lol
Just viewed michael Tsarion's take on the tarot, goddess, androgyny, and I cannot believe I never found it before....it's bang on!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3945939594164805621
Excellent video!!
bigus_dickus
04-09-2007, 07:59 PM
Bump lol
Just viewed michael Tsarion's take on the tarot, goddess, androgyny, and I cannot believe I never found it before....it's bang on!!
watching this... whoa, he makes many serious mistakes, some of them hilarious. especially regarding words.
synergy777
04-09-2007, 08:30 PM
lets settle this argument of the second coming. i will tell you everything, but first send me money, lol
see even if there is a second coming, that does not mean you are relieved of your duty, it doesn't mean you don't have to awaken. if yashuah/kalki comes or not, you still are accountable for yourself, you still have to change. the whole mesage has been for you to change/evolve, irrespective of his help. so change yourself, and let what is written happen.
awaken, evolve, become whole.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 09:24 PM
lets settle this argument of the second coming. i will tell you everything, but first send me money, lol
see even if there is a second coming, that does not mean you are relieved of your duty, it doesn't mean you don't have to awaken. if yashuah/kalki comes or not, you still are accountable for yourself, you still have to change. the whole mesage has been for you to change/evolve, irrespective of his help. so change yourself, and let what is written happen.
awaken, evolve, become whole.
LOL...cash or cheque?
The second coming is all about responsibilty, so totally agree with you syn, but the 'change' is all about the change or shift of energy within...the supressed feminine rises, what was hidden becomes clear through our dreams and right hem activity.....but again this is not about the second coming being about the female solely, but of male/female rebalance, temperance, equilibrum of the energies...to androgeny or union.
I know alot of people have the view that the concept of oneness and unity being promoted throughout the nwo, new age etc is but a fatal spiritual error and I agree, feel the true message has been hijacked completely and twisted into a new definition, the goddess and luciferism, the goddess and the masons, etc etc...
Imbalance has created the divide within us, but unifying our personal energy structures as individuals and collectivily can only bring about rebalance which potentially will usher in an age or frequency that is based on the harmony of energy and not the brutality of it.
So how much do you charge then?lol
synergy777
04-09-2007, 09:32 PM
i would charge, but as its not my info, well its good to share. all this stuff is old, from ancient times, we just have the technology now to increase its reach/access.
its true about the personal angle, we need to balance our yin/yang, i don't like the masculine, feminine wording, old school bloke, lol. also unity is better than the borg/hive mind oneness that the nwo want, they only want this hivemind, as its easier to control us. a union of individuals is whats needed, rather like a team.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 09:46 PM
i would charge, but as its not my info, well its good to share. all this stuff is old, from ancient times, we just have the technology now to increase its reach/access.
its true about the personal angle, we need to balance our yin/yang, i don't like the masculine, feminine wording, old school bloke, lol. also unity is better than the borg/hive mind oneness that the nwo want, they only want this hivemind, as its easier to control us. a union of individuals is whats needed, rather like a team.
ROFL.... no offence meant to the old school crew in tonight..lol..ying it is then...or goddess/god, lord/lady for the celts!
Yeah, a union of individuals, i like that :)
synergy777
04-09-2007, 09:50 PM
soul tribe/soul family etc, which is the point of the 12 tribes of israel uniting etc.
although i like football team idea, the creator as chairman/roman, me as coach/jose, lol although we do clash on tactics and transfer policy, lol i like the simple outlook, its easier to compute, faster, like machine code for processors.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 09:56 PM
You ever have a look at the tarot syn?
It's pretty interesting the division of the masc...i mean ying and yang energies of the four ruling elements..which are posed by the lords and lady's of the four elements..water, fire, air and earth...does reflect the mental, emotional, spiritual and physical division and unity that is played out within ourselves.
That's what old tsarion reminded me of when he was talking about the goddess and unifying our ying/yang into androgeny...it's an alchemical balancing of ying/yang
lydia78
04-09-2007, 09:57 PM
soul tribe/soul family etc, which is the point of the 12 tribes of israel uniting etc.
although i like football team idea, the creator as chairman/roman, me as coach/jose, lol although we do clash on tactics and transfer policy, lol i like the simple outlook, its easier to compute, faster, like machine code for processors.
I so KNEW you were gonna bring up football lol....yeah need to read up more on the 12 tribes, so long as beckham aint in it!!lol
synergy777
04-09-2007, 10:00 PM
not really looked into the esoteric/occult side of things like tarot.wicca, more science/history/religion etc, the mans view, lol. whats its all about then? this tarot stuff. i know being indian, that this sort of stuff, astrology, vedic stuff, magic, etc indian women are crazy about it, they swear by it, take it seriously etc.i don't discount it, am open to it, but not really skilled in that department.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 10:12 PM
Tarot as a divination tool has many purposes, depending how deep or light you want to keep it
It can be used to predict aspects of your immediate future...as much as in it is likened to a weather forecast, nothing is set in stone,so this is not fortune telling, it is a tool to help someone manage and learn about themselves albeit within the archtypal system towards self empowerment and balance.
It is used more as a self development tool, awareness of imbalance of our ying/yang, conformation of intuitive guidence, preparation if there are challenges ahead....there are many tarot cards culturally speaking, each with their own twist so to speak on the definitions of the cards, yet the core concepts are still the same.
You may well end up a natural syn!!:)
Can see you on the hill of tara, staff in one hand, laptop in the other,lol electronic tarot readings...I'll have one off ya!!!:)
synergy777
04-09-2007, 10:22 PM
Tarot as a divination tool has many purposes, depending how deep or light you want to keep it
It can be used to predict aspects of your immediate future...as much as in it is likened to a weather forecast, nothing is set in stone,so this is not fortune telling, it is a tool to help someone manage and learn about themselves albeit within the archtypal system towards self empowerment and balance.
It is used more as a self development tool, awareness of imbalance of our ying/yang, conformation of intuitive guidence, preparation if there are challenges ahead....there are many tarot cards culturally speaking, each with their own twist so to speak on the definitions of the cards, yet the core concepts are still the same.
You may well end up a natural syn!!
Can see you on the hill of tara, staff in one hand, laptop in the other,lol electronic tarot readings...I'll have one off ya!!!
i will leave this stuff to the ladies, its not my cup of tea. its all good you are into this stuff, but, i prefer my way. i am the sort that will leave things to the creator/source, and do what i can, thats it. after all its about teamwork, you do the cards, i'll have the laptop, lol
its a talent i think this stuff, you seem to have it, been blessed with it. i'm happy with my lot. as long as you use it for good, its all good.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 10:26 PM
i will leave this stuff to the ladies, its not my cup of tea. its all good you are into this stuff, but, i prefer my way. i am the sort that will leave things to the creator/source, and do what i can, thats it. after all its about teamwork, you do the cards, i'll have the laptop, lol
its a talent i think this stuff, you seem to have it, been blessed with it. i'm happy with my lot. as long as you use it for good, its all good.
There's a sure demo of ying/yang if I ever saw it...lol....ladies with the tarot...men with the facts...lol...nice one syn, i respect your work man...some great stuff. And yeah, no fear Love is the intention behind all my work:)
But think we can definately say icke ain't the second coming of christ eh..lol:)
synergy777
04-09-2007, 10:33 PM
i think icke is one the bravest though, not many have done what he has done, and kept themselvs strong in the face of global public ridicule/persecution. what he has done, none of us could do. we have it easy, because of him, he is a genuine legend, the gate opener, the pioneer...
icke well done, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be here, we should all be eternally greatful, i always will be. its easy to forget his work/sacrifices, us humans tend to forget easy. all the people who laughed at him, well he was right, wasn't he.
Buddha, Mohammed, Krishna, Zoroaster.....the ones of our time have yet to be identified maybe Icke is one maybe not time will tell....
I'm asking about now.
lydia78
04-09-2007, 10:36 PM
i think icke is one the bravest though, not many have done what he has done, and kept themselvs strong in the face of global public ridicule/persecution. what he has done, none of us could do. we have it easy, because of him, he is a genuine legend, the gate opener, the pioneer...
icke well done, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't be here, we should all be eternally greatful, i always will be. its easy to forget his work/sacrifices, us humans tend to forget easy. all the people who laughed at him, well he was right, wasn't he.
Hell yeah...absolute legend.
Remember as a kid seeing his infamous wogan appearence
I was wearing a turquoise shell suit too (although I just thought it was trendy at the time) liked him based on that principal..lol...your right, he has paved the way forward, made the path easier for those who follow after....he is great man!!:)
synergy777
04-09-2007, 10:38 PM
he is a midlands geezer, MG, from leicester, we midlanders are the best, lol.
It's a state of consciousness. Does it really matter if Jesus was a real person or not? Whether his name was Jesus or not?
It's the state of being the stories represent that matters. Which is heavily obscured by the structures of the religions. Through all the ages there have always been a few 'prophets', who were no more than ordinary people, but who had access to the enlightened state of consciousness and tried to share that with the rest of humanity. We all have that power within us and these people have come at various times to remind us of that. Mostly, we haven't listened and more often than not, killed them.
So if there was a guy called Jesus then I don't think it's completely crazy to compare Icke to him, in the sense they both seem to be vehicles through which consciousness flows. Maybe the only difference is the level of enlightenment (how long and how deeply you can dwell there). Some are constantly in that state and others flit in and out. I see Icke as the latter. But I see both as messengers for consciousness. And there are a few others out there too in this time.
It's kind of laughable though anyway, because Jesus could be among us right now and if they had trouble acknowledging his presence the first time round, how the hell would anyone recognise him in this insane culture we live in? :DYou understand where I'm coming from. But who else is at the 'level' of Icke?
Your quite right, theres infinite supporting evidence. He is actually Jesus now.
:D + yeah thanks, glad some people understand me.
synergy777
04-09-2007, 10:45 PM
there could be many in many lands away from publc/cyber exposure, we don't know. icke is the public figure that can inspire/unite us.
This thread applies
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8741
give it a read, and some feedback please !
Auron, great photograph above
hahaha babies can sense his unlovingness.
There are some people here who 'get it' and some who sadly don't.
lets settle this argument of the second coming. i will tell you everything, but first send me money, lol
see even if there is a second coming, that does not mean you are relieved of your duty, it doesn't mean you don't have to awaken. if yashuah/kalki comes or not, you still are accountable for yourself, you still have to change. the whole mesage has been for you to change/evolve, irrespective of his help. so change yourself, and let what is written happen.
awaken, evolve, become whole.I know, I never said that David will 'send us all to heaven' if we believe in him, he's communicating a message.
synergy777
04-09-2007, 11:30 PM
its all good, you started a great thread, sometimes we forget his contribution to us all.
1 love/peace bro.
herebynightfall
04-09-2007, 11:38 PM
There are some people here who 'get it' and some who sadly don't.
so you like that thread ?
so you like that thread ?
I like what you've written in it, I think you are right.
It doesn't really matter to me who Christ was 2000 years ago, if he existed etc. What happened or not in the past does not mater too much time me, but there has been a prophesy of a 'Second Coming' and I care about what is happening in my time, this time. David Icke is our Christ in my opinion, there is no-one else on the same 'level' as him, he is special, again my opinion. Christianity or religion has nothing to do with this, just the fact that Christ was prophesied to 'return.' You can debate who actually existed in the past, whether they were prophets or false prophets, but there have been people imho that have came to 'guide' mankind as prophets, in history, and Icke is the guy for our time imho.