View Full Version : 'Naked' scanner in airport trial
free thinker
13-10-2009, 08:00 AM
A human X-ray machine that produces "naked" images of passengers has started a trial at Manchester Airport
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8303983.stm
lynfowars
13-10-2009, 08:46 AM
Very one-sided reporting on the tv this am. All happy to be obeying the man, for the oxymoron of 'giving up our liberties for more security'.
They say it has the 'anonymity of thousand of people going through every day'.
Won't be quite so anonymous though if you are famous, bet they take a hard copy of them for the canteen wall!
anthony65
13-10-2009, 09:15 AM
Isn't the woman at the end of the BBC clip scary.... :eek:
antinwo
13-10-2009, 09:21 AM
Well I don't travel abroad and wont be after this
bones
13-10-2009, 09:37 AM
i think everyone should get a metal paint like alluminium one coat, and write davidicke.com on there belly....
i wont be using it!!!
comma berenices
13-10-2009, 10:12 AM
We knew it was coming:eek:
The comment from the woman at the end is unbeleivable,"security" Who's might i ask.:rolleyes:
I won't even get a new passport because of the chip in them,so no traveling for me anymore,shame really i loved seeing other countries and experiencing their culture's.
Why is no-one questioning the radiation factor from x-ray's i wonder :mad:
djhooker
13-10-2009, 10:16 AM
and what's wrong with x-ray machine? didn't that work well enough?
gods sun
13-10-2009, 11:07 AM
the lady has a wealthy income from the man next to her and likes to show her dominance through marxism bloody cow. im gona xray you several times in that machine see if money can buy your life.
yozhik
13-10-2009, 11:13 AM
Well I don't travel abroad and wont be after this
OK ... that's one, voluntarily, plantation bound slave then ... excellent; they will be pleased their plan is working so effortlessly.
disorder2k8
13-10-2009, 11:17 AM
OK ... that's one, voluntarily, plantation bound slave then ... excellent; they will be pleased their plan is working so effortlessly.
lol plantation.. we have none any more in this country mate, they were all outsourced to india
justin_pushka
13-10-2009, 11:18 AM
Generally i dont like new technology and its invasions of our privacy. However i see some fun we can have with this so we can turn the tables a little. If i go abroad im going to rub myself in the loo to get roused so they have to be confronted with my huge hardon. Its not often you can get legaly naked in public and thres no need to feel intimidated by being naked infront of the black clad world police. Its all about turning negativity into a positive. Id use it to show myself off a bit rather like david did on thecover of I am me I am free. Lets all show how free we realy are in th face of these fascists and show em were not scared by going through with hard ons or love eggs in! :)
free thinker
13-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Anything to Declare Sir? what is that in your pocket?.....He's got a gun......Down! everybody get down on the floor, Now...Do it NOW!!!
*justin_pushka is the subject of six armed police officers, crosshairs trained on his forehead*
"Erm no, y, y, you have... made a m,m,mistake, it's not a gun, look..".:D:D
unusual_suspect
13-10-2009, 01:52 PM
Generally i dont like new technology and its invasions of our privacy. However i see some fun we can have with this so we can turn the tables a little. If i go abroad im going to rub myself in the loo to get roused so they have to be confronted with my huge hardon. Its not often you can get legaly naked in public and thres no need to feel intimidated by being naked infront of the black clad world police. Its all about turning negativity into a positive. Id use it to show myself off a bit rather like david did on thecover of I am me I am free. Lets all show how free we realy are in th face of these fascists and show em were not scared by going through with hard ons or love eggs in! :)
lol, they would probably make you take the love eggs out and then give you an anal probe!
Seriously though, they have metal detectors already so I see no reason for this, also I wouldn't go through one, people might see my cellulite :eek:
tzlr_17
13-10-2009, 01:54 PM
I've been through one of these scanners. Didn't bat an eyelid.
Why the hysteria?
Would you rather have some big burly bloke pat you down, or step through one of these machines?
This doesn't bother me one bit. The prospect of brain scanners would though!
unusual_suspect
13-10-2009, 01:56 PM
I've been through one of these scanners. Didn't bat an eyelid.
Why the hysteria?
Would you rather have some big burly bloke pat you down, or step through one of these machines?
This doesn't bother me one bit. The prospect of brain scanners would though!
Uh, I'd rather have the bloke pat me down actually, it doesn't seem as bad.
anthony65
13-10-2009, 02:08 PM
I've been through one of these scanners. Didn't bat an eyelid.
Why the hysteria?
Would you rather have some big burly bloke pat you down, or step through one of these machines?
This doesn't bother me one bit. The prospect of brain scanners would though!
Why the hysteria?
It's another literal stripping of our private spheres. Another invasion of our personal space.
And why are they doing it?
9/11....
Which was of course an inside job.
To combat islamic terrorism, which again was a creation of the western intelligence agencies.
As for the brain scanners. Don't expect them to announce their existence before they are officially introduced. Just watch what you think at all times... :eek:
tzlr_17
13-10-2009, 02:08 PM
Fair enough - any particular reason why?
Is it the thought of someone seeing a grainy xray image of you for a few seconds or something else?
tzlr_17
13-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Why the hysteria?
It's another literal stripping of our private spheres. Another invasion of our personal space.
Sorry, IMO someone physically searching you is more of an invasion of privacy than stepping though an xray scanner? No?
unusual_suspect
13-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Fair enough - any particular reason why?
Is it the thought of someone seeing a grainy xray image of you for a few seconds or something else?
Idk, just a gut reaction.
crf250 rebel
13-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Anything to Declare Sir? what is that in your pocket?.....He's got a gun......Down! everybody get down on the floor, Now...Do it NOW!!!
*justin_pushka is the subject of six armed police officers, crosshairs trained on his forehead*
"Erm no, y, y, you have... made a m,m,mistake, it's not a gun, look..".:D:D
total recall comes to mind
anthony65
13-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Sorry, IMO someone physically searching you is more of an invasion of privacy than stepping though an xray scanner? No?
The only personal searches I can remember were with the magic wands. I haven't flown anywhere for a while and I don't intend to.
My point is that this is intended to get people to accept infringements of their personal sphere in the name of combatting a terrorism that was planned and created by the same people who are now busy stripping away not just our freedom but our humanity.
stevensons1987
13-10-2009, 02:31 PM
Fair enough - any particular reason why?
Is it the thought of someone seeing a grainy xray image of you for a few seconds or something else?
This is slightly concerning. It's clearly a stepping stone. Its just another version of "if youve got nothing to hide, what are you worried about?"
itsallinus
13-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Or perhaps its real purpose is to see who is human and who is reptilian.
whiterain
13-10-2009, 02:51 PM
haha had a dream last night that i was naked and flying past police checkpoints in a train station. i dont think this scan will be quite as fun though
decim
13-10-2009, 03:10 PM
Doesn't scan for infectious diseases though does it, something that could wipe out the majority of the UK.
Catch one bloke with contraband?
A crock of s##t.
TB CDif Diphtheria Plague AIDs MRSA
Don't smoke & kill yourself slowly, we TPTB will bring numerous exotic diseases to the UK to put you & yours at risk, your children will require 35 vaccinations though, all good for our, I mean THE economy hey what.
entrainment
13-10-2009, 03:16 PM
I can see a massive increase of air travel lazy flashers they wont even need to get it out anymore, just wear loose pants and give it a giggle lol
veritasvoice
13-10-2009, 03:27 PM
I've been through one of these scanners. Didn't bat an eyelid.
Why the hysteria?
Would you rather have some big burly bloke pat you down, or step through one of these machines?
This doesn't bother me one bit. The prospect of brain scanners would though!
I hope the phrase "totalitarian tiptoe" holds some meaning for you...otherwise look up the frog in the pot analogy.
When people are mutely compliant and desensitized by guards ordering them to walk through these new scanners, THEN we will see brain scanners wheeled out to detect "hostile thoughts".
They are prepping the tech as we speak:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3069960/New-airport-screening-could-read-minds.html
And while you will be standing up saying "no, this is wrong, this is a complete invasion of privacy!" there will be those who say "I don't see what your problem is, I don't have anything to hide, doesn't bother me one bit. Why the hysteria?"
You can't just stand up to protest these things when it directly affects you - you have to do it on principle.
Also trialled at Manchester:
http://www.itpro.co.uk/605589/face-scanning-border-tech-tested-at-manchester-airport
decim
13-10-2009, 03:34 PM
One of our possible futures..
http://img4.sidereel.com/_icon/15f0.jpg
biblegirl
13-10-2009, 03:40 PM
anyone care about the radiation exposure?
they also said radiation in regualr x-rays was safe, and later found out they were injuring unborn children in the process
the truth is they haven't had any long term studies on intentional radiation exposure and it's affect on the human body...we are merely part of experimental technology as usual, only to be part of a lawsuit for radiation damage 20 years from now...i like how this guy says someone can go through 5000 times and be fine, cause the radiation is tiny :rolleyes:
lynfowars
13-10-2009, 04:01 PM
Have you seen BBC News coverage of this? The airport's talking-head 'Sarah', she looks like the child of the Cheshire Cat mating with Marty Feldman, what the hell is she so happy for, this is a disaster for our liberties!
Only a matter of time before this is compulsory by being the only option, and many people with natural reserve or similar reasons, will be be brow beaten into not travelling. So much for our liberties!
anthony65
13-10-2009, 04:17 PM
I hope the phrase "totalitarian tiptoe" holds some meaning for you...otherwise look up the frog in the pot analogy.
When people are mutely compliant and desensitized by guards ordering them to walk through these new scanners, THEN we will see brain scanners wheeled out to detect "hostile thoughts".
They are prepping the tech as we speak:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3069960/New-airport-screening-could-read-minds.html
And while you will be standing up saying "no, this is wrong, this is a complete invasion of privacy!" there will be those who say "I don't see what your problem is, I don't have anything to hide, doesn't bother me one bit. Why the hysteria?"
You can't just stand up to protest these things when it directly affects you - you have to do it on principle.
Also trialled at Manchester:
http://www.itpro.co.uk/605589/face-scanning-border-tech-tested-at-manchester-airport
Lots of good points!
Look how far we've come already... :(
pri01
13-10-2009, 04:20 PM
anyone care about the radiation exposure?
they also said radiation in regualr x-rays was safe, and later found out they were injuring unborn children in the process
the truth is they haven't had any long term studies on intentional radiation exposure and it's affect on the human body...we are merely part of experimental technology as usual, only to be part of a lawsuit for radiation damage 20 years from now...i like how this guy says someone can go through 5000 times and be fine, cause the radiation is tiny :rolleyes:
If these machines work using the same technology as x-rays then I would be very worried about a)working around them long term and b) repeated use as a result of frequent travel. X-ray elecromagnetic radiation is high up there on the spectrum. So I would not be happy. Repeated exposure to this type of radiation at this level of intensity is harmful to living cells.
adzboarder
13-10-2009, 04:44 PM
Comments are hilarious!
I think it would be very embarrassing to go throughout the scanner. But if it is going to keep us safe from terrorists then it is worth it and essential. I'm sure the person seeing the images will see so many every day that they will not be in the least bit interested in our naked bodies.
Roy Woolnough, Watford
So what fucking Terrorists is he referring to? Will Gordon Brown, Tony Blair and Obama be going through this thing then?
If I was seeing naked bodies all day I would be VERY interested, so what a crock of shite this dickhead is spouting. Funny that this gets published eh?
tzlr_17
13-10-2009, 08:04 PM
From the manufacturers website:
Q: How much radiant energy is a person exposed to?
A: Each full body scan of the Secure 1000 produces approximately 3 microREMs of emission. This is equivalent to the exposure every person receives each five minutes from naturally occurring background environmental radioactivity.
Q: Is background radiation exposure really a good comparison?
A: Yes, because Secure 1000 scanning and background radiation both expose a large portion of the body to a very low level of X-rays. The only difference is that background radiation has slightly higher X-ray energy resulting in deeper penetration.
unusual_suspect
13-10-2009, 08:05 PM
Will they be able to see my wavering bikini line?
ndc777
13-10-2009, 08:05 PM
This scanner could have been in a Carry On film. Imagine Sid James as one of the security guards!
http://content6.flixster.com/photo/49/86/44/4986448_tml.jpg
entrainment
13-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Will they be able to see my wavering bikini line?
absolutly! and much more id bet, will bring new meaning to camel toe lol
tzlr_17
13-10-2009, 08:25 PM
I hope the phrase "totalitarian tiptoe" holds some meaning for you...otherwise look up the frog in the pot analogy.
When people are mutely compliant and desensitized by guards ordering them to walk through these new scanners, THEN we will see brain scanners wheeled out to detect "hostile thoughts".
They are prepping the tech as we speak:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3069960/New-airport-screening-could-read-minds.html
And while you will be standing up saying "no, this is wrong, this is a complete invasion of privacy!" there will be those who say "I don't see what your problem is, I don't have anything to hide, doesn't bother me one bit. Why the hysteria?"
You can't just stand up to protest these things when it directly affects you - you have to do it on principle.
Also trialled at Manchester:
http://www.itpro.co.uk/605589/face-scanning-border-tech-tested-at-manchester-airport
I do take your point. All I've heard at work and on the radio though is people going crazy about the prospect of being seen 'naked' - which I don't really understand. No mention whatsoever of any other objection.
In Geneva I was given the option of taking my shoes off and joining a queue to be searched, or joining a much shorter queue for the x-ray machine. I chose the machine. I believe they have been using the system for some time, basically to take the extra strain off customs when there's an influx of passengers.
Security technology like this will only keep on getting more sophisticated and intrusive, as long as the masses are perpetually fooled into thinking it's for their own safety.
...I guess this is just another step.... Tell the public you're putting brain scanners in lampposts and there would be mass outrage. Implement the same system incrementally whilst constantly bombarding the public with propaganda about how much danger they're in and eventually they'll be crying out for the lamppost scanners!
I was just thrown by the whole naked issue.
rhydra
13-10-2009, 08:45 PM
What if someone is ridiculously endowed? I'm pretty sure the image will be saved and passed around at the Customs officer's Christmas party.:p
if i was a terrorist i would fly in a private or chartered plane and avoid all these protocols ... ever notice bigwigs in corporate and private jets don't go threw these or other security measures? they get off their g5 and into their stretch limo and are off the tarmac in minutes instead of hours? shouldn't these security measures be for everyone including president's and the like? just like our parents used to say to us do as i say not what "i" do
biblegirl
13-10-2009, 09:16 PM
What if someone is ridiculously endowed? I'm pretty sure the image will be saved and passed around at the Customs officer's Christmas party.:p
lol you totally know they will!
unusual_suspect
13-10-2009, 09:21 PM
What if someone is ridiculously endowed? I'm pretty sure the image will be saved and passed around at the Customs officer's Christmas party.:p
lol you totally know they will!
yeh, this is why I think the whole thing is very wrong.
disorder2k8
15-10-2009, 03:23 PM
What if someone is ridiculously endowed? I'm pretty sure the image will be saved and passed around at the Customs officer's Christmas party.
Yeah thats the new fingerprinting, can't get away from the law if you happen to hung like a baboon.