Horoscope Questions

[dude111]

I hope i dont seem like an idiot here,but i was wondering if someone could answer something for me?

What does 1st house theu 12th house mean??

For example one of my forecasts says

"Your lunar low begins as the Moon enters Virgo and your twelfth house of secrets this evening, urging you to spend some quiet time alone."

This is for Wensday

What if it was my 5th house of secrets or my 2nd house??

What do all those mean?? (1st-12th houses of whatever) I reckon it has something to do with the months of the year...

Hope i dont seem dumb!!

Thanx for the help here :)

[suicidal_martyr]

I hope i dont seem like an idiot here,but i was wondering if someone could answer something for me?

What does 1st house theu 12th house mean??

For example one of my forecasts says

"Your lunar low begins as the Moon enters Virgo and your twelfth house of secrets this evening, urging you to spend some quiet time alone."

This is for Wensday

What if it was my 5th house of secrets or my 2nd house??

What do all those mean?? (1st-12th houses of whatever) I reckon it has something to do with the months of the year...

Hope i dont seem dumb!!

Thanx for the help here :)

I think it represents 12 signs and 12 planets. I am not too sure, I read a book on it but forgot the content lol. I know you interpret things based on the movement of planets or constellations or what not, like libra in the house of mercury, then look at associated traits of that planet to determine what to expect during that time. Thought I would take a guess since no one replied, I can't remember the stuff I read about so don't take my word for it. lol. And no you aren't dumb, asking questions is actually the opposite, or so people say. All I know is the signs are the 12 houses and how the planets move, what constellation/sign they are closest too, determines how you read the signs, another way is like, Mars in the house of pisces, then i think you would determine the outcome by gathering the traits of that planet, or the traits of the sign that corresponds to that planet. Assuming you are reading material about it, I typed all this in hopes of helping you better understand but like I said, don't take my word for it. I don't know a lot about it to be talking really! :eek:

[dude111]

Thank you my friend,im quite surprised there hasnt been more replies.....

[fishonwheels]

In so called modern western astrology they don't simply look at your sun sign. If you have the exact time and date of your birth they could cast your birth chart. 360 degree in the zodiac, each sign taking up 30, at the exact moment of your birth a specific degree of a sign would be "rising" over the horizon. You could be Virgo but have Gemini "rising," for example.

Picture a horizontal flat line representing the horizon that cuts a circle in half. At the 9:00 position, that's your "ascendant," beginning of the first house, representing your "persona," physcial body, early upbringing, look, first impression, etc. There are twelve houses, each representing a different area of your life. At the time of your birth your sun, moon, and planets will be in different signs and different houses.

If you search online there are a wealth of info on astrology. When you read your horoscope in the paper, the astrologer does not have your birth info, so she puts your sun sign in the first house and works out which signs all the planets are moving through and which "houses," therefore which areas of your life will be affected.

I don't think much of this approach; it's strictly entertainment. I found an accurate birth chart with accurate birth info works FAR MORE ACCURATELY IN REVEALING ONE'S PERSONALITY, PSYCHOLOGY, AND LIFE.

To cast a chart check out www.astro.com sign up for an account. They also have astrology for beginners type tutorials.

I'm amateur but have gotten to the point that if i observe a person for a period of time, get to know them a little, and have their birthdate I'm able to guess their ascendant sign with uncanny accuracy, far beyond statistical probability. Proof that there is something to astrology.

The question is how come. How come planetary positions can reveal something about each of us?

can suggest a few links if still interested

[azureangel]

I like some of your posts so here's a bit of info. Other posters had good stuff too; if you're interested, astro.com is a good place to start. Each house is represented by a planet and has its own "flavor". The progression mimics the planet and their signs of the Zodiac: Mars/Aries, Venus/Taurus, Mercury/Gemini, Moon/Cancer, Sun/Leo, Mercury/Virgo, venus/Libra, Pluto/Scorpio, Jupiter/Saggitarius, Saturn/Capricorn, Uranus/Aquarius and 12th house is ruled by Neptune/Pisces.
A good way is to study the planets and the star (Sun) of course now the astronomers have "made" Pluto not an official planet but that is only in their estimation. We also look at some asteroids like Chiron which may be the true ruler of Virgo and the north node of the Moon which is a karmic placement and really helpful if you're studying your chart in the style of evolutionary astrology. Which posits that there are octaves of each sign, and the reason to study is to assist us in evolving, learning the lessons of the placements of the planets and to move forward into the higher octaves of each sign.

Once you begin to have the flavor of the planets, then you begin to apply some of that to the houses, which have more to them than just their planetary rulers. Then, you can learn what are called the aspects, or the relations of the planets to each other in your natal chart and the meanings. The more you look at your chart, you frequently find themes which repeat. These are what we call "double signatures" to your life path: your luck, talents and probably, direction (or in some cases, challenges). Finally, you can look at the current planetary positions in juxtapostion to your natal chart to see how the planets are affecting you at a given time. It's a fascinating field and has helped me to understand my life and others much better. Have fun!
Love, angel

[dude111]

Thank you Guys :)

[fishonwheels]

Try this out and see if it works for you.

Once you have an astro.com account it's time to input your birth data. Under the "my astro" tab it'll ask for your birth data; you'll need your birth time and place. Once you've saved your data go to the "free horoscopes tab" and under "short reports" you'll see "personal portrait." Once you've clicked on that you'll see a brief personality interpretation for you.

Is this you? More than kind of?

If not sure try running birth data for people you know well. I think you can add at least several more under "my astro." Are their portraits accurate?

Now under "free horoscopes" you might want to go to "astro click portrait" and click away on the symbols on the chart for a deeper look into the dark moldy dungeonｓ　ｏｆ　ｙｏｕ　ａｎｄ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｆｒｉｅｎｄｓ’　ｐｓｙｃｈｅ　（ｊｏｋｉｎｇ）。

Ａｒｅ　ｔｈｅｓｅ　ｒｅａｄｉｎｇｓ　ｅｖｅｎ　ｍｏｒｅ　ａｃｃｕｒａｔｅ？　Ｔｈｅｓｅ　ｗｏｕｌｄ 　ｂｅ　ｗｈａｔ　Ａｚｕｒｅａｎｇｅｌ　ｗａｓ　ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ　ａｂｏｕｔ，　ｔｈｅ　＂ｐｌａｎｅｔ ａｒｙ　ａｓｐｅｃｔｓ。＂　

Ａｓｔｒｏｌｏｇｙ　ｃａｎ　ｄｏ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｔｈａｎ　ｐｅｒｓｏｎａｌｉｔｙ　ｒｅａｄｉｎｇｓ。　Ｔ ｈｉｎｇｓ　ｒｅａｌｌｙ　ｇｅｔ　ｉｎｔｅｒｅｓｔｉｎｇ　ｗｈｅｎ　ｙｏｕ　ｇｅｔ　ｉｎｔｏ　ｆｏｒ ｅｃａｓｔｉｎｇ／ｔｉｍｉｎｇ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅｒｅ　ａｒｅ　ｍａｎｙ　ｓｙｓｔｅｍｓ　ｉｎ　ｕｓｅ　 ｔｏｄａｙ　ｉｔ’ｓ　ｆｕｎｎｙ　ｂｕｔ　ａｓｔｒｏｌｏｇｅｒｓ　ｒｅｇｕｌａｒｌｙ　ｈａｖｅ　ｉｔ 　ｏｕｔ　ｆｏｒ　ｅａｃｈ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｂｅｃａｕｓｅ　ｏｆ　ｔｈｅｉｒ　ｄｉｆｆｅｒｉｎｇ　ｏｐｉ ｎｉｏｎｓ　ａｎｄ　ｍｅｔｈｏｄｓ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｃｏｎｔｒｏｖｅｒｓｙ　ｙｏｕ　ｓｅｅ　ｉｎ　ｏ ｔｈｅｒ　ｆｉｅｌｄｓ　ａｌｓｏ　ｈａｐｐｅｎｓ　ｈｅｒｅ。　

Ｎｏｗ　ｔｈａｔ　ｙｏｕ’ｒｅ　ｓｏｌｄ　ｏｎ　ａｓｔｒｏｌｏｇｙ　ｃｕｒｉｏｓｉｔｙ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｄ ｒｉｖｅ　ｙｏｕ　ｔｏ　ｌｅａｒｎ　ｍｏｒｅ　ａｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｉｎｔｅｒｎｅｔ　ｈａｓ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｔ ｈａｎ　ｅｎｏｕｇｈ　ｉｎｆｏ　ｆｏｒ　ｔｈｅ　ａｍａｔｅｕｒ。　Ｐｒｅｔｔｙ　ｓｏｏｎ，　ｙｏｕ　 ｗｉｌｌ　ｈａｖｅ　ｇｏｎｅ　ｂｅｙｏｎｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｐｏｉｎｔ　ｏｆ　ｎｏ　ｒｅｔｕｒｎ 。

Ｗｈｙ　ｄｏｅｓ　ａｓｔｒｏｌｏｇｙ　ｅｖｅｎ　ｗｏｒｋ？　

[azureangel]

Astrologers in total don't "have it out for each other" in general. Astrology is a very old science, there are many versions, one of which is Vedic which I don't know but have a great respect for. Part of astrology if well done I believe is also intuitive ability. It's another way to gain insight, like Tarot, divination, runes, etc. I would avoid any astrologer, as any therapist, who puts down other's ways of working. Have fun! Love, angel

[fishonwheels]

Astrologers in total don't "have it out for each other" in general. Astrology is a very old science, there are many versions, one of which is Vedic which I don't know but have a great respect for. Part of astrology if well done I believe is also intuitive ability. It's another way to gain insight, like Tarot, divination, runes, etc. I would avoid any astrologer, as any therapist, who puts down other's ways of working. Have fun! Love, angel

They don't necessarily put down other people's methods, but they disagree with the methods and don't use them and I'm sure you've witnessed heated debates among people in any field. Sometimes you wonder if they're talking about the same subject matter lol.

Social Sciences like to talk about confirmation bias, availability heuristics etc etc. If folks are in the same field and their ways of gathering information are similar why do they get night and day pictues?

Matters are further complicated in the "intuitive arts," since you can't exactly define and duplicate the methodology from one practitioner to the next. Do you ever use helio-centric charts? There's very little info on this branch of astrology. It's like the conspiracy world of the "real world," on the margin. I believe many astrologers will change the subject if you ask them about Helio-As.

I guess in the end of the day it's what works; surely some can do extremely accurate readings from tea leafs.

I sometimes wonder if astrology would get a little recognition if someone takes the time to use statistical rigor on a large properly randomized sample, which any determined and funded person can do. Hell, I probably can given time and funds. Gauquelin tried it. Haven't read his work but there's gotta be something easier to narrow down than athleticism and careers or what not.

Some very basic, easily identifiable variable. Perhaps Vedic astrology is better at pinpointing something. Be nice if a seasoned and passionate astrologer teams up with a career-suicidal social scientist lol.

Why is it important to give astrology a little mainstream legitimacy? Well, if astrology works even just a little bit, then the school version of the world is some what incomplete, which it is. What? You mean all that work just to prove what we already know? It's a way to involve the skeptics, if just a little; they work for the people who hold the purse strings, who know already.

If i'm stating the obvious pardon me, perhaps it has to do with chart ruler most elevated planet saturn in ninth house in dynamic aspects to personal planets, with many "double signatures" involved.

I forgot what my point was to be.....uh....oh well.......

[dude111]

I asked an astrologer about this also AND INVITED HIM HERE and he said this

The zodiac ("circle of animals") is an imaginary circle, projected onto the celestial sphere (the appearance of the heavens to us on earth). The circle of the Zodiac is a zone or belt in space through which the planets move. Around 15 to 18 degrees wide, it is divided into 12 signs, of 30 degrees each (there are 360 degrees in the zodiac) with the ecliptic, the apparent path of the Sun, as its middle line. These 12 signs are named after constellations (groups of stars), but are not exactly the same as them. Each sign takes about a month to pass, as the Sun travels slightly more than 1 degree a day through the Zodiac. The movement of the planets through the Zodiac and their relationships to each other and to their position in the Zodiac marks the parade of events on Earth. The Zodiac is a division of the annual pathway of the Sun as seen from the Earth, due to the Earth's annual orbit around the Sun. Each sign has a set of characteristics that flavour the planetary influences. See our page on Astrological Signs, http://www.astrologycom.com/signs.html , which has links to an explanation of the meaning of each of the signs.


The houses are another way of dividing the heavens, this time based on the Earth's diurnal (daily) revolution on its own axis. Each house has a particular field of reference to events on Earth, or in a person's life. See our page on Astrological Houses, http://www.astrologycom.com/houses.html , which has links to brief explanations regarding the meaning of each house. There are 12 houses, so each house takes approximately two hours to rise over the horizon (some faster, some slower, but all around that time), as there are 24 hours in a day.


The houses and signs need not be the same. For example, if you have Sun in Scorpio (intensity; sexuality) and were born around sunrise, you would also have Scorpio rising, so your first house (self-image; personality) would be Scorpio. However, were you to have been born around sunset, you would have the opposite sign, Taurus, rising at the time you were born, and even though Sun is still in Scorpio, Scorpio would be on the cusp of the 7th house, so your Sun would be in the 7th house (partnership, marriage, open confrontation).. Taurus would therefore be on the cusp of your first house, and you would have Taurus rising.Im still kinda confused though :D

I hope he will join us here :)


Thanx for all the replies on the thread!!

[linda28]

I hope i dont seem like an idiot here,but i was wondering if someone could answer something for me?

What does 1st house theu 12th house mean??

For example one of my forecasts says

"Your lunar low begins as the Moon enters Virgo and your twelfth house of secrets this evening, urging you to spend some quiet time alone."

This is for Wensday

What if it was my 5th house of secrets or my 2nd house??

What do all those mean?? (1st-12th houses of whatever) I reckon it has something to do with the months of the year...
Hope i dont seem dumb!!

Thanx for the help here :)

The 12th house is about secrets.
If your moon transits your 5th house a day that would not be about secrets since the fifth house is about exposing. About creativity, children, parties, romance, etc. So your moon, or "emotions" would be relating to those issues. But of course, it depends on other planetary positions as well.

I never pay attention to where the moon transits (since it's so subtle), but rather to the days it conjunct my sun. Those are "power days".

The 12 houses are different life areas and energies that are either active or passive.

[fishonwheels]

I asked an astrologer about this also AND INVITED HIM HERE I hope he will join us here :)

I hope he will. I got lots of questions for him.

dude111, did you check out astro.com??

[fishonwheels]

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Ｉｔｓ　ｔｒａｎｓｉｔｓ　ｃａｎ　ｔｅｌｌ　ｙｏｕ　ａｌｏｔ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｗｈａｔ’ｓ　ｇｏｉｎｇ　 ｏｎ　ｉｎ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｌｉｆｅ　ｒｉｇｈｔ　ｎｏｗ。　

[dude111]

dude111, did you check out astro.com??Yes an interesting site thank you :)