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Anders Lindman
29-08-2007, 11:08 PM
As described by experts on this topic, the real reason for the FEMA concentration camps and the PATRIOT act and so on and so forth is the preparation for the mass hysteria among the public and financial traders when they discover that the Peak Oil crisis will permanently prevent further economic growth.

How's that for a fear mongering message? ;)

Anders Lindman
29-08-2007, 11:37 PM
People like Alex Jones are used as a propaganda tool to try to steer away the public from finding out about the Peak Oil crisis.

"In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed."

From: http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Oct05/041005oil.htm

More from that article:

"Flying in the face of the so called peak oil crisis are the facts. If we are running out of oil so quickly then why are reserves being continually increased and production skyrocketing?"

The reason was explained in a video (I don't remember which). Oil producers artificially create reports about lower productions, so that they can later report an increase of oil production where in actuality no such increase has taken place.

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 04:40 AM
"For the most part the true victims aren't aware of how they pay the bills. The license to create money out of thin air allows the bills to be paid through price inflation. American citizens, as well as average citizens of Japan, China, and other countries suffer from price inflation, which represents the 'tax' that pays the bills for our military adventures. That is until the fraud is discovered, and the foreign producers decide not to take dollars nor hold them very long in payment for their goods. Everything possible is done to prevent the fraud of the monetary system from being exposed to the masses who suffer from it. If oil markets replace dollars with Euros, it would in time curtail our ability to continue to print, without restraint, the world's reserve currency." -- Ron Paul

"Remarkable to see this argument put forward so directly in this Special Order speech by Rep. Paul. It's been an issue of immense interest to Energy Bulletin readers, accounting for some of our most popular articles ever. William Clark has written from a similar perspective whilst incorporating Peak Oil into his analysis." -- Editorial Notes

From: http://www.energybulletin.net/12987.html

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 04:50 AM
People like Alex Jones are used as a propaganda tool to try to steer away the public from finding out about the Peak Oil crisis.


This was only speculation on my part. I take it back. But it would be interesting to find out if Alex Jones ever has brought up the subject of the dollar-oil relationship, and the serious problem with it as Ron Paul has pointed out.

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 05:11 AM
it would be interesting to find out if Alex Jones ever has brought up the subject of the dollar-oil relationship

I found articles about the dollar-oil relationship on prisonplanet.com, for example:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_chittum_052303_barbarians.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/170206dollar.htm

So it looks like Alex Jones is not trying to hide this as I suspected. My bad. :o :D

cruise4
30-08-2007, 03:45 PM
Alex Jones is only a recent convert to the idea that Peak Oil is a scam. For years he thought otherwise..

I think there's plenty of Oil. Iraq is now NOT producing and its possible thats another reason for the invasion... to STOP oil production. Its the 'lack of' argument that they want for increasing prices. They are not so constrained. Just us.

A guy who invented the Afterburner has a machine driven by water that outputs power. This unit could be installed in the water supply network as its both flow adjustable, scaleable and can be installed in Series.

Thats just one possibility of many alternative virtually free energy arrangements we could have now.

Oil is a scam. Pure and simple. We don't need it at all. They do and they want a limited supply.

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 04:22 PM
I think there's plenty of Oil.

You could be right. I have found it difficult to find solid information about how much oil there is and how much is produced. One thing that could point to peak oil having been reached or will be reached shortly is that fewer and smaller oil reserves have been found.

It would be interesting to do more research about this, but I'm too lazy to do a more thorough research, plus it's difficult to tell in what degree the public information about this can be trusted.

Another approach is to do dot-connecting a la David Icke in order to try to get the bigger picture. To connect Peak Oil, 911, global warming, Steorn, Monica Lewinsky, the Iraq war, the possible Iran war, the EU expansion, petro dollar, Amero, American Union, PATRIOT act, U.S. presidential election 2008, ID cards, UN, fractional reserve banking, European Central Bank, Federal Reserve, Bank for International Settlements, chemtrails, fluoride, vaccine, AIDS, religions, religious organizations, ancient scriptures, ancient sites, JFK assassination, cold war, intelligence agencies, secret organizations, Roswell, MK ULTRA, HAARP, revolutions, wars, illegal drug trade, organized crime, symbolism, media manipulation, rigged financial markets and on and on.

synergy777
30-08-2007, 05:32 PM
ron paul said the collapse is only being held back, its inevitable, soon the central banks, won't have any money, no one will buy debt via cdo's/hedge funds, the party's over. then again he's a politicians, and this conspiracy lark, all rubbish. god save the.......... get me drift, lol

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 06:00 PM
ron paul said the collapse is only being held back, its inevitable, soon the central banks, won't have any money, no one will buy debt via cdo's/hedge funds, the party's over. then again he's a politicians, and this conspiracy lark, all rubbish. god save the.......... get me drift, lol

If the same fractional banking system is kept as it is, then surely it will collapse, or rather, the compounded debt it creates will become a heavier and heavier burden so that the system will become less and less efficient. It's like pouring more and more sand into an engine that already is running with a lot of friction.

I hope Ron Paul will be able to replace the engine.

synergy777
30-08-2007, 07:11 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aLHJ4TKSRS90&refer=home

Britain's Housing Lenders Tighten Subprime Credit

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=atGzs.T9jjaQ&refer=home

Bernanke May Hear Call for Fed Activism on Regulation (Update1)


the feds/central banks, foreign reserves of eastern countries and insider deals are what keeping us up. they are buying the stock after it crashes, they are spending dollars while they are still worth something. see when they buy enough, then it will crash, they will own the companies, and enjoy the recovery/controlling stakes. buy low, sell high. see they can't wait to buy after the crash, as the dollar will be worthless. so they cash in now, take a hit, which in the longterm, will prove worthwhile.

its a dirty game, but they just love playing it.

Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 08:12 PM
its a dirty game, but they just love playing it.

In this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4046564743329239954

...there is a lot of scare mongering talk about peak oil and how China is desperately sweeping the planet for energy sources. Plus China is now buying so much concrete that it reduces the U.S. ability to build. And China is importing massive amounts of other heavy materials such as steel in addition to concrete as fast as possible because they are aware of the peak oil crisis and that transportation of heavy material will become very expensive in the near future. And loads of other very scary things are described in the video. I don't know how much of it is true, but it's frightening if just some of it is true.

A real estate bubble is much less problematic, because real estate is a lasting asset. Oil on the other hand is consumed very quickly at a faster and faster rate and if there is not enough oil and concrete etc, then building new houses will be more costly and more limited.

The same with interest rates, stock market indexes and so on. Their importance pales in comparison with oil it seems.

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30-08-2007, 08:27 PM
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Anders Lindman
30-08-2007, 08:46 PM
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No problem. This thread is too friggin' gloomy. Maybe we should delete it.