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herebynightfall
29-08-2007, 10:22 PM
My room is usually a natural clutter.
And I was looking at a shirt on my bed today.
And I thought " I want that shirt to be in my closet "
And sure enough, I picked it up, and put it in my closet.
Does it marvel anybody else of our ability as human beings to move things with our mind.
And all we have to do,is think about what we want to move, to make ourselves will that object to move with our "physical bodies"
It is telekinesis to me in the way that I am perceiving it.
So, good on us for taking the ability to move things that we want with our minds, for granted.
Much love and infinite knowledge.
P.S.
Take your comp. mouse for instance. You want it to go somewhere specific on the screen.
And what do you make it do? With a little bit of mental effort, not really physical. You make it navigate the contraption for you.
It's a thinker for sure, but I hope you see where I'm coming from, in the not so completely physical world, even though we think it's our physical selves reacting with the environment.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
29-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Well, the point of why we are here is to experience 3D reality of this extent. Most likely, those that can move an object without touching it, in my opinion at least, are not just here for experience, but are here for something more. To show us that there is reality beyond this one.
herebynightfall
29-08-2007, 10:41 PM
Well, the point of why we are here is to experience 3D reality of this extent. Most likely, those that can move an object without touching it, in my opinion at least, are not just here for experience, but are here for something more. To show us that there is reality beyond this one.
You're missing my point.
We aren't experiencing a 3D physical reality, we only think of it as such because it's ingrained into us from birth that we are.
Everything we experience is inside our brains.
When you accept, that our interaction with everything that there is to interact with, no limits, or anything preventing you from perceiving this WORLD in a way that it is all technically in your mind,
when you accept that, you use your 'physical' self to navigate through life and time and space that is our world. and you come to terms with everything.
and you never have a fixed viewpoint on anything, and you allow room for change, and unpermanance prevails over the mindset that 'this is how it is, theres no other reasoning behind it.'
i don't even like the word physical anymore.
what is physical? i can make things happen through touching things, and expressing myself to those around me. and understanding their emotions and language.
but when it comes down to it. i show emotions, and make things fall over, and throw things, and talk... all because i run it through my head to process that it is possible. and that there doesnt always have to be cause or reason for things that occur.
i use my mental energy to kick something far.
if i kick a metal ball, and i hurt my toes. my toes dont hurt because of physicality. my toes hurt because my mind was using energy to propel the leg part of my whole self, really fast into a dense metal object. and consequences of that action apply in the presence of pain.
that's it for now. hope you try and comprehend that how i meant to signal it out to you all.
this realization has been the biggest part of my awakening yet.
and great experiences have been happening.
i've been relearning everything and percieving everything more clearly and it seems to right not to be the way. kinda like the first time i listened to david icke.
father_pyramid
29-08-2007, 11:12 PM
You got it. Thoughts are all that is needed to bring forth the challenges needed to accomplish the thought. Thoughts are intangible, and therefore anything that a thought creates is intangible. That is why we create "reality" and can "be whatever we want to be". This is also why what we think is "reality", is an illusion, and actual reality is consciousness. An illusion is opposite to reality, so some will argue that reality can't be an illusion - and that's right, it can't be, because consciousness isn't an illusion and consciousness is reality, so when we say "reality" is an illusion, it means that what we think is reality is an illusion, because only illusions are perceivable, where as actual reality(consciousness) is not perceivable.
herebynightfall
30-08-2007, 12:26 AM
sorta ?
father_pyramid
30-08-2007, 12:50 AM
sorta ?
Not sorta; but Exactly. :)
i always thought how is it that we do something and dont paln each tiny step of the process like walking to the shop 2 buy something we just automatically do it without really thinking not move this foot next then head in this familiar direction closer now to where we want to be , we just do it sort of auto pilot because we think its what we want to do , so if thats what you mean then ye i get it :D
herebynightfall
30-08-2007, 01:05 AM
Not sorta; but Exactly. :)
eh, no. i meant sorta.
i personally believe that what is here on earth. is everything that exists.
or if not, it represents everything that exists.
because in our bodies, every part represents the whole.
we can experience. and we are concious.
so i believe that we are part of another being that can also experience, and is concious.
thus the statement "It's all relative" .and it is.
what we experience is and how its affects us is based on perception.
when i am working at the bookstore that i work at.
i don't stress over anything. i have fun with everything.
when i'm stocking the shelves with books, i look forward to what i'm about to do. make a game out of it usually,in my head.
when i'm just walking around, i don't take one step of the capability of mobility that we call walking, for granted. i hop on one leg sometimes, not to be foolish, but because i can.
why not change up how we reach a particular destination. and do what we know isnt as crazy as we've been taught to percieve.
why waste a day being sad ??!
when you can love that there's bodily movements to be made.
when there is tastes to be had.
feelings to be felt.
our possibilities at this moment might be limited. but the availability of what is possible is fucking fucking huge.
get out there and use your true instincts. meditation helps with this.
helps you find your true self, your true home, and what you want, need, and teaches you the vastness that is possibility.
father_pyramid
30-08-2007, 01:25 AM
What I mean is that...lets say...
You want to learn to play guitar...
First the thought is created from "nothing" and it signals your brain to do what is needed to be done to do it. The thought becomes the challenge. If you accept the challenge, you will say, in time, go get a guitar, and learn it. Therefore the thought brought forth the challenge needed to acomplish the thought. And since thoughts are intangible, how could anything that a thought create, be real. Everything is an illusion that we create from thoughts and control with our thoughts.
This example works with anything. Anything you want to do you can do. Want to be a great guitarist? Want to travel around the world? You can do anything that is possible, all you have to do is create the thought to do it from "nothing", and accept the challenges brought for by those thoughts. What you think is what you are.
Want to live in a world of peace? Live a "life of infinite love", and you're doing your part, as soon as everyone else lives a "life of infinite love", that thought becomes our percieved reality(illusion). Thats why the solution to this whole mess is simply changing ourselves. That's it, that's all it takes. Not a physical revolution (well maybe thats what changing ourselves eventually leads to, or is needed to complete the change). But nothings going to happen overnight, perhaps martial law, or some crazy shit to go down, is what is needed for us to change ourselves. Maybe people won't 'wake up' until that has happened. Either way, the point is we all control the environment around us, it does not control us. We are it(and everything that exists), and we control us.
father_pyramid
30-08-2007, 01:27 AM
eh, no. i meant sorta.
i personally believe that what is here on earth. is everything that exists.
or if not, it represents everything that exists.
because in our bodies, every part represents the whole.
we can experience. and we are concious.
so i believe that we are part of another being that can also experience, and is concious.
thus the statement "It's all relative" .and it is.
what we experience is and how its affects us is based on perception.
when i am working at the bookstore that i work at.
i don't stress over anything. i have fun with everything.
when i'm stocking the shelves with books, i look forward to what i'm about to do. make a game out of it usually,in my head.
when i'm just walking around, i don't take one step of the capability of mobility that we call walking, for granted. i hop on one leg sometimes, not to be foolish, but because i can.
why not change up how we reach a particular destination. and do what we know isnt as crazy as we've been taught to percieve.
why waste a day being sad ??!
when you can love that there's bodily movements to be made.
when there is tastes to be had.
feelings to be felt.
our possibilities at this moment might be limited. but the availability of what is possible is fucking fucking huge.
get out there and use your true instincts. meditation helps with this.
helps you find your true self, your true home, and what you want, need, and teaches you the vastness that is possibility.
Well I think something is not being understood from my previous post then, because I agree 100% with that. :)
herebynightfall
30-08-2007, 02:07 AM
What I mean is that...lets say...
You want to learn to play guitar...
First the thought is created from "nothing" and it signals your brain to do what is needed to be done to do it. The thought becomes the challenge. If you accept the challenge, you will say, in time, go get a guitar, and learn it. Therefore the thought brought forth the challenge needed to acomplish the thought. And since thoughts are intangible, how could anything that a thought create, be real. Everything is an illusion that we create from thoughts and control with our thoughts.
This example works with anything. Anything you want to do you can do. Want to be a great guitarist? Want to travel around the world? You can do anything that is possible, all you have to do is create the thought to do it from "nothing", and accept the challenges brought for by those thoughts. What you think is what you are.
Want to live in a world of peace? Live a "life of infinite love", and you're doing your part, as soon as everyone else lives a "life of infinite love", that thought becomes our percieved reality(illusion). Thats why the solution to this whole mess is simply changing ourselves. That's it, that's all it takes. Not a physical revolution (well maybe thats what changing ourselves eventually leads to, or is needed to complete the change). But nothings going to happen overnight, perhaps martial law, or some crazy shit to go down, is what is needed for us to change ourselves. Maybe people won't 'wake up' until that has happened. Either way, the point is we all control the environment around us, it does not control us. We are it, and we control us.
yeah we are on the same page then.
We are it, the environment around us.
YES
how else could it be here, unless we make it so.
that's why i like harry potter so much.
all the magic that goes on.
when i was little. i read it cause it was a new world to me.
where you can do whatever you want just out of will, and a wand.
and i envied that they could use that magic and i was pissed that i didn't have that capability. and i had to do everything physically using my plain old hands and use all of my effort and strength.
then i read the whole series again, recently, and wow
JKRowling is a genius.
everything that can happen with magic.
we can do as well.
we just need te will to do it.
i want to creat fire out of know where.
bam i pull out a lighter. which is available because beings of a previous time had the intuition to create that invention for humanity.
and through persistance, it has gotten to the point where i can purchase this instant fire contraption at the local shop 2 minutes away.
then there is wingardium leviosa, the levitating spell.
i always wished i could do that. and now with my perception.
boom. i percieve myself having the will to pick something up and move it somewhere else, just as amusing as if i had a wand in my hand moving it.
we manipulate this world through our being here. and i no longer need to be pissed off that i can't do everything by just using a wand.
because i know that in essence, my wand is my body, and my knowing that my body is my connection to everything that is in the world. every interaction i want.
lol and to pyramid.. i've bee wanting to learn gutar for the past 5 years...
i finally got an acoustic recently.
i can't pick up on how to play, for the life of me.
but i'm not going to stop, becaus ei want the know how of that instrument.
just wanting to know how means a lot to me.
and the path of learning should be very fun once i start picking up on it.
herebynightfall
30-08-2007, 05:55 PM
i think this thread died because i write absolutely too much.
i can't hold myself back.
i'll write a book sometime when my head is capable of fitting enough juicy stuff in it.
oh well, yer missing out i guess.
father_pyramid
30-08-2007, 06:04 PM
i think this thread died because i write absolutely too much.
i can't hold myself back.
i'll write a book sometime when my head is capable of fitting enough juicy stuff in it.
oh well, yer missing out i guess.
You have good content, but the way your posts are typed, it comes across as .... crazy? It's like a coherent message that you are presenting through a bunch of unconnected incoherent thoughts. They aren't incoherent, but it seems like it when you type it the way you do.
joss classey
30-08-2007, 06:08 PM
My room is usually a natural clutter.
And I was looking at a shirt on my bed today.
And I thought " I want that shirt to be in my closet "
And sure enough, I picked it up, and put it in my closet.
Does it marvel anybody else of our ability as human beings to move things with our mind.
And all we have to do,is think about what we want to move, to make ourselves will that object to move with our "physical bodies"
It is telekinesis to me in the way that I am perceiving it.
So, good on us for taking the ability to move things that we want with our minds, for granted.
Much love and infinite knowledge.
P.S.
Take your comp. mouse for instance. You want it to go somewhere specific on the screen.
And what do you make it do? With a little bit of mental effort, not really physical. You make it navigate the contraption for you.
It's a thinker for sure, but I hope you see where I'm coming from, in the not so completely physical world, even though we think it's our physical selves reacting with the environment.
holy shit. i can't actually believe i am reading this.
i was thinking THE EXACT same recently. literally the exact same. talking about it with people. something playing on my mind. fuck. this is weird. it's such a unique idea too. weird weird weird
cool!
herebynightfall
30-08-2007, 06:10 PM
eh i write what comes naturally to me.
try to make it organized and easy to make a checkpoint if you get distracted.
just a mindless rant anyway this thread isn't too important to get across to people.
because if they are awake, they know the content in this thread already.
or i'd hope it comes naturally to them as it did to us.
yeah we are on the same page then.
We are it, the environment around us.
YES
how else could it be here, unless we make it so.
that's why i like harry potter so much.
all the magic that goes on.
when i was little. i read it cause it was a new world to me.
where you can do whatever you want just out of will, and a wand.
and i envied that they could use that magic and i was pissed that i didn't have that capability. and i had to do everything physically using my plain old hands and use all of my effort and strength.
then i read the whole series again, recently, and wow
JKRowling is a genius.
everything that can happen with magic.
we can do as well.
we just need te will to do it.
i want to creat fire out of know where.
bam i pull out a lighter. which is available because beings of a previous time had the intuition to create that invention for humanity.
and through persistance, it has gotten to the point where i can purchase this instant fire contraption at the local shop 2 minutes away.
then there is wingardium leviosa, the levitating spell.
i always wished i could do that. and now with my perception.
boom. i percieve myself having the will to pick something up and move it somewhere else, just as amusing as if i had a wand in my hand moving it.
we manipulate this world through our being here. and i no longer need to be pissed off that i can't do everything by just using a wand.
because i know that in essence, my wand is my body, and my knowing that my body is my connection to everything that is in the world. every interaction i want.
lol and to pyramid.. i've bee wanting to learn gutar for the past 5 years...
i finally got an acoustic recently.
i can't pick up on how to play, for the life of me.
but i'm not going to stop, becaus ei want the know how of that instrument.
just wanting to know how means a lot to me.
and the path of learning should be very fun once i start picking up on it.
Crowley wrote in his book magic if i recal correctly it was 15 or more years since i read it , that in modern times magic works like this , for example if you feel ill you invoke a doctor to treat you and cure you by invoking an elemental in this case the secretary thru a phone call to book for you an appointment. that was the gist i think magic works on all levels so if i got that right then yes you are corect , well you are anyway no matter waht crowley wrote :D
herebynightfall
01-09-2007, 06:48 AM
http://realityshifters.com/media/matrixspoon.jpg
there is no spoon
kblood
01-09-2007, 12:13 PM
My room is usually a natural clutter.
And I was looking at a shirt on my bed today.
And I thought " I want that shirt to be in my closet "
And sure enough, I picked it up, and put it in my closet.
Does it marvel anybody else of our ability as human beings to move things with our mind.
And all we have to do,is think about what we want to move, to make ourselves will that object to move with our "physical bodies"
It is telekinesis to me in the way that I am perceiving it.
So, good on us for taking the ability to move things that we want with our minds, for granted.
Much love and infinite knowledge.
P.S.
Take your comp. mouse for instance. You want it to go somewhere specific on the screen.
And what do you make it do? With a little bit of mental effort, not really physical. You make it navigate the contraption for you.
It's a thinker for sure, but I hope you see where I'm coming from, in the not so completely physical world, even though we think it's our physical selves reacting with the environment.
Yup, you found telekinesis. Probably one of the most usefull abilities I think. I have found it very nice for disarming someone :)
What I basicly do (to make it easier for myself to believe I guess), is moving my body and use my mind to make what my body is doing, happen somewhere else. Wether it is within my sight range or within range of my body, might not be an issue. Only when it comes to believing in it.
I once used it to punch a guy (he had done something I was quite angry about). He then had a blue eye for a few days :p The most amazing thing is that he was wearing glasses at the time, and they did not get a scratch. He dropped them, but that was the only thing that happened to them. If my own fist had been used directly, the glasses would have been smashed of course.
I have also used it to make someone running away "slip" :D Yup, I like to use it to subtly have persons doing bad deeds, understand that they better do as I say. It is for their own good anyway. I havent used it for a long time though. I think it might be a kind of "out of body" thing, so it could be unhealthy for the mind, doing it too much.
Most of the time I cannot just will it to happen. I need some good reason, or at least a bit of enthusiasme to make it happen. By now, it is hard to be enthusiastic about these mental powers though, unless there is a very good reason... or drugs maybe, havent tried that though.
Nice thread, and thanks for sharing :)
http://realityshifters.com/media/matrixspoon.jpg
there is no spoon
AH the KEY ANU !
megafish33
02-09-2007, 04:21 AM
Oh yeah, this is a fascinating subject.
A professor at a top tier private university (that I don't attend :( ) told me that nothing even really touches! Just "communicates" via some vibration (although that word doesn't even do it justice) and then that data of communication talks to your data, which agrees on what frequency it will use to give your nerves/or brain/(I forget exactly how he described it) that data. He also said, he believes, due to his research, that our brain is given that signal to interpret those data vibes, even before they're "given" to your body. Something quantum is going on there.
shottie
02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
If consciousness is part of or comes from the body/mind, and the body comes from the elements of the earth then we are part of the eternal reality of this perceived existence that we all share.
I recommend a good (but limited) film about telekinesis staring John Travolta called Phenomenon.
We look at an object and see and think it is still. When in fact nothing is still, it is always moving/vibrating. As Icke says anything that moves/vibrates is illusion.
Perhaps we all have an inner body that we can control without moving our solid body and move objects.
kblood
02-09-2007, 09:25 PM
Phenomenon? A movie I havent seen? :eek: I better look it up :D
Some of the first things that made me aware of us being able to do telekinesis was a ghost (quite rare, and harmless without attention), rumours and my belief in auras and so on I think.
The thing is I learned quite early (or more of a theory I guess) that everything seems to have a larger range of being than what we see. The most common term is aura. But usually aura is something we say only living beings have. Our perception of what a living being is might be a bit limited though. There are theories about life comming from nonliving elements, but I do not believe those really. What I do believe is that everything might have an aura, due to the nature of atoms and therefore molecules.
If we see in a science show or something an image of how an atom is believe to be, then it has a sphere of energy around it, made up by the electrons and neutrons I think they are called. They are like the male and female parts of an atom, and they are what makes the atom "physical". The electron and the neutron simply stabilizes the atoms, and they are also what makes them unstable.
The thing is that the more atoms that are gathering in one molecule, the larger more energy it will have to emit. The more molecules gathered in whatever they become when gathered, the more bigger the energy sphere around this will be. This energy sphere or aura that I believe everything must have (more or less), therefore shows what the being or item/something contains of any kind, will show in the "aura". Our energy flow changes due to our emotions and warmth and so on, because that is all part of our energy flow. A rock on the other hand, has just about no "energy flow" in it. That makes its aura sphere very small I guess. It still radiates cold or warmth though (and whatever else it might have been in contact with).
I had already come to know this when I first encountered this ghost. And the ghost smashed an object in a room, while a 3rd person was there to see it. She saw I was not the one who did it, and therefore she knew that it at least could be the doings of a ghost. I knew that if a ghost could do something to our world, the we must be able to do whatever they could do, by "semi-leaving" our body I guess. At least I have come to control it quite well, when needed. It does take alot of focus though, and it is easier if I do not use my eyes while doing it. Apparantly our eyes uses alot of our "brain-power", so I think that is why we sometimes loose our sight. I do at least, when using strong mental powers.
Yea, another long block of text that turned into. If you want to know about telekinesis, it is very hard to explain in 3 lines of text though.
I would like to hear if anyone else has succeeded in using telekinesis? I think I had it mapped in the brain during a CT scan or maybe it was a CAT scan, where I tried to help map these abilities. I am not sure how clear the readings of it where though. Also it might not help a whole lot knowing what part of the brain "might" control telekinesis, since it doesnt really make it easier to use it.
herebynightfall
02-09-2007, 09:32 PM
yeah, phenomenon was a really good film.
serpentoffire
02-09-2007, 09:56 PM
Yesterday evening, while I'm posting on this web site, something has hit the table where I put my laptop. I was alone in my room.
Today morning at 6.00 AM I listened a flow of water while I sleeping. I wakeup thinking it was raining. Once I got up I realized that the sound was coming from the toilet. I saw the water mixer completely opened. I closed it and I went to sleep. After several minutes I felt a smell of perfume for man.
At breakfast I asked to my wife and my children if they used the toilet during the night leaving the water mixer opened. Nobody used it after 00.30 AM.
At 5.00 P.M we left from home to bring the children to park. I found the battery of my car broken. Yesterday the battery worked perfectly.
At 8.00 P.M. we returned from park and we found the light of kitchen balcony switched on.
I think an entity is infesting my home, attracting my attention with these tricks.
Can anyone help me to handle this paranormal activity in my home?
Thanks in advance
Regards
herebynightfall
07-09-2007, 05:08 AM
bump.
dark86
07-09-2007, 08:04 AM
ok what about this one. you do a 4 hour drive and dont even think about driving - you are daydreaming / listening to music. what the hell is driving the car - its like some autopilot. your mind is not driving it nor is your 'physical'
herebynightfall
17-10-2007, 07:07 PM
This was a fave of mine
mountain
17-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Yesterday evening, while I'm posting on this web site, something has hit the table where I put my laptop. I was alone in my room.
Today morning at 6.00 AM I listened a flow of water while I sleeping. I wakeup thinking it was raining. Once I got up I realized that the sound was coming from the toilet. I saw the water mixer completely opened. I closed it and I went to sleep. After several minutes I felt a smell of perfume for man.
At breakfast I asked to my wife and my children if they used the toilet during the night leaving the water mixer opened. Nobody used it after 00.30 AM.
At 5.00 P.M we left from home to bring the children to park. I found the battery of my car broken. Yesterday the battery worked perfectly.
At 8.00 P.M. we returned from park and we found the light of kitchen balcony switched on.
I think an entity is infesting my home, attracting my attention with these tricks.
Can anyone help me to handle this paranormal activity in my home?
Thanks in advance
Regards
I have had similar trouble with entities. Simply bless your house by shouting for them to come forward, then demand that they leave in peace! This shall do it if you are not afraid. Also, when you feel their presence, talk to them and ask what is it they want? I personally have told entities that I will not tolerate any evil around me, and if that was their intent then they must go.
tejas
17-10-2007, 09:44 PM
That is crazy trippy shit nightfall
I love it! :D
herebynightfall
17-10-2007, 09:55 PM
danke, tejas.
This is how threads should be.
So much good info and perspectives !
herebynightfall
17-06-2008, 12:25 AM
bump!!!!!!!!!