Robbie Williams Interview 9/11 Swine Flu,Zeitgeist

[frase]

Well done Robbie....
Good start...
You should have come out with it and said though-9/11 was an inside job...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-UlnpW7ks

[sodi]

I love Robbie Williams

[branjo]

It's a +1 for Robbie in my book.

Good man.

[mace]

He's still a bit of a cock. But fair play to him for talking about it on air. Good start...

[bendelapidate]

Sorry but I couldn't watch for more than 44 seconds. The guy is a creation of the illuminati paternalistic-pop-daddy industry and yet here he is, babbling on about conspiracy theories like it's the new iPhone or something.

I always believed that these people are tools of the elite. They are used to propagate memes and themes to the so-called "ignorant sheep". Why would it be that he is talking in these terms? Could it be that his attention to popular conspiracy theories makes people feel like somebody they idolise is actually on their side?

Nothing will change unless we become the change we desire.

[size_of_light]

Well done Robbie....
Good start...
You should have come out with it and said though-9/11 was an inside job...

Why not?

You're on this forum and have got more money and material security than all the rest of us combined.

And we're all saying it wherever we can.

Nobody sane wants or expects you to start a "Hi I'm Robbie Williams - Any Questions?" thread, but FFS, use your celebrity leverage to speak out like a man and tell it like it is, son!

P.S. Who are you?

P.P.S. Can I have your autograph?

[sithnemesis]

Robbie Williams has got balls of feckin steel... :)

http://www.savethehubble.com/arquivos/imagens/griffins_balls_of_steel.jpg

[dainis bophary]

Well Done Robster!:D

[take it easy]

nice one robbie, the years of drug abuse have served your mind well.

i wonder what his username is on here?

[dainis bophary]

Another thread on this subject:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86077

[bendelapidate]

nice one robbie, the years of drug abuse have served your mind well.

i wonder what his username is on here?

Everything he says has been put into him by his puppeteers. I can't take him seriously, though I'm sure a lot of naive youth who've latched on to conspiracy theories will lap it up. It makes you wonder if they are about to do something that will discredit everything he said on the matter in the minds of his followers.

[citroen999]

Everything he says has been put into him by his puppeteers. I can't take him seriously, though I'm sure a lot of naive youth who've latched on to conspiracy theories will lap it up. It makes you wonder if they are about to do something that will discredit everything he said on the matter in the minds of his followers.

so what? as long as millions of his fans jump on the conspiracy train and find their own way....

we can only get stronger by more people joining....

from small acorns etc.........

[sodi]

He didnt really say that he believes it all. He just likes the magic behind it. He keeps an open eye for things and thats really how I see it.

[mrerisian]

these people are tools of the elite. They are used to propagate memes and themes to the so-called "ignorant sheep". Why would it be that he is talking in these terms? Could it be that his attention to popular conspiracy theories makes people feel like somebody they idolise is actually on their side?

What tosh. He's a bloke who just happens to be more talented and successful than you. That's the only real difference. Deal with it.

This 'movement' has an inbuilt self destruct system which infuriates me. How do you ever expect a mass awakening if people like you are always sat on the sidelines sniping away? Where's your evidence for the allegation you post?

Everything he says has been put into him by his puppeteers.

Same question to you benderapidate - give me your evidence for this allegation.

[branjo]

Well I think its good that he even talks about it, than say nothing about it at all.

[marc_o]

mrerisian, I completly agree.

[frase]

Well I think its good that he even talks about it, than say nothing about it at all.

I agree.
He introduced it in a clever way too-mentioned all the things, and didn't commit either way...just said he was interested......
Nicely done.
can totally see why he did it in this way......
Would be career suicide and he knows it.....

[freespark]

Sorry but I couldn't watch for more than 44 seconds. The guy is a creation of the illuminati paternalistic-pop-daddy industry and yet here he is, babbling on about conspiracy theories like it's the new iPhone or something.

I always believed that these people are tools of the elite. They are used to propagate memes and themes to the so-called "ignorant sheep". Why would it be that he is talking in these terms? Could it be that his attention to popular conspiracy theories makes people feel like somebody they idolise is actually on their side?

Nothing will change unless we become the change we desire.

Gotta start somewhere tbh...

Every little bit helps..... and he reaches alot of people. ;)

THE GLASS IS HALF FULL :)

[frase]

You know all that money we spend on the military every year - trillions of dollars? Instead, if we use this money to feed and clothe the poor of this world, which it would do many times over, then we can explore space, inner and outer, together, as one race.

- Bill Hicks


KIND OF LIKE A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT EH MR HICKS?

[paolo]

Bodies video with lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzDZHNTlCw
UK in entropy. I feel it's really fucking me? Stunning pics of chemtrails? Robbies making good his Icke connections on the sly

[mrerisian]

KIND OF LIKE A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT EH MR HICKS?

See - this is part of the same problem. Icke fans are not a religion but some of us are getting dogmatic. Icke himself admits there's nothing in essence wrong with a one world Government.

Just because the NWO likes it doesn't mean it's EVIL.

[secondsun]

...i picked his Manager up in my cab about 6 months ago now i think... she said "he has become a bit of recluse these days and spends all of his time away in LA with the woman in his life staring up at the sky looking for UFO`S!"

...so expect any subsequent Icke treatment from the Media!

[hitithard]

I agree, i am begining to understand the concept of a one world government not necessarily being a bad one. It is quite possibly the nutural path for our evolution to take, the way that we can develop as a civilisation, as one. Not being devided up by invisible boarders. I guess we can have a good one world government or a bad one...thats the fundamental problem. Then again, bad for some is good, good for some is bad...

Bit off topic there,

Back on to topic, I like Robbie. People are saying how he is working alongside the media and currupt/evil music industry but its not like he is doing it in silence. He is open to his ideas and views and talks about them, I think it can only be a possitive thing. You guys who slate him, have no personal reasons too. Other than he was in take that ;)

[tien an]

As a musician, I have to say that any other musician that freely admits that he's "not the best singer in the world", but is adamant that he puts a lot of work into giving a good performance...that can sing 'Angels' the way he does, and sounds like he means it (I normally don't like his material...too gooey for me), is someone balanced, is at ease with himself, with the talent he has and the world around him, is genuine...the real McCoy.
The man's got balls to mention even mention the fact that he thinks about this stuff.

Stop slagging off the guy...he's (just) a 'prominent person' that is propagating the notion that there's something awry in the world.

There are quite a few negative posts so far in this thread...why not expend that (intellectual) energy in sending the guy a positive vibe by mentioning him to people you know like him...?

FFS, as a certain Mr. Icke said many times in his talks; (paraphrased) "Find out what you agree on, and build on that."

Spread the word...

tian an.

[juddfinn]

Bodies video with lyrics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lzDZHNTlCw
UK in entropy. I feel it's really fucking me? Stunning pics of chemtrails? Robbies making good his Icke connections on the sly

Skillful Means...

If I ask "Do you think 9/11 was an inside job?" that has opened it up. If I TELL you "9/11 WAS an inside job" That's closed it down... Remember that US stand-up who said on a TV interview that she could say allsorts of contentious stuff with a cute Puppy in her hand, "like 9/11 was an inside job... look, a puppy" that was 'sly' and worked a treat. And, now we have '20QUESTIONS with/for the President' by Charlie Sheen, very smart, as question hold the power afterall... It's ALL SKILFUL MEANS:)

Robbie had all his "needs" met long ago, the drugs don't do it any more, so now the "magic" for him is in the Conspiracy Agenda, UFO's, Icke etc - and he seems to feel it enough to now talk openly about it all. It's a kind of coming out... and will make David Icke's job a lot easier too.

So maybe 'we' should encourage Robbie a bit more.

... there comes a time.

It's all good:p

[largejack]

Do you think he was covering his back a bit by not stipulating whether he truly believed it or not, and I hate the words 'conspiracy theories' don't use that term Robbie please???

[frase]

Yeah, He was introducing it, saying he was interested, and that he wasn't sure......He seemed like he had to justify it all...Just in case people thought he was a "nut"......
He knows the score though....Too bad he mentioned Zeitgeist though......
Althought the 9/11 section is kick ass....
Zero-An investigation into 9/11 is the bollocks though.....
Any doubters giv ethem a dose of Zero and step back.....!

[omnit]

People just stop and think for one minute!

Just imagine how many pop/robbie fans of all ages are going to see that little interview. I'd say thousands will see it, and he's planted little seeds in the minds of them all!

And mentioning Zeitgeist was pure genius, even if you dont agree with it, its a place were many people start on the road to seeing this world for what it really is!

It all gets a hell of alot of people asking a hell of alot of questions doesnt it?

He will do more waking up than all of us put together with this!

Fine job Robbie, and the song 'boddies' sounds like it was wrote on this site, just listen to it and try to take in what he's actually trying to say!

Question everything, the truth has no need to hide, if it is good and just!

[tien an]

Fine job Robbie, and the song 'boddies' sounds like it was wrote on this site, just listen to it and try to take in what he's actually trying to say!



Exactly.

tian an.

[reptileslayer]

Well done Robbie....
Good start...
You should have come out with it and said though-9/11 was an inside job...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-UlnpW7ks
Ok my first line, I am NOT bashing Robbie Williams here.
But i spotted a few things in this interview that gives me cause for concern regarding where williams head really is. He said the stuff about the Illuminati, The grove, 9/11, might be true, or it might all be rubbish and the conspiracy theorists might all be crackpots? WTF Williams, if you research all them things properly, you will very quickly find out that they are real and actually 'conspiracy fact' if you want to find out the real truth of this planet, please do some proper deep research! Another point is that you said that you like magic in your life WTF again, I personally don't think that this very evil illuminati group that is shafting and killing the human race by its evil activities, is a magic fun thing.
You make it sound like its a walt disney fantasy thing, for your use, in your own fantasies and self indulgence.

I hope you read this post Mr Williams, please get a grip son. Until i saw this interview, i thought you were really getting your head around what is really going on in the world. Its very important for people like yourself to get the real truth out there. ;)

[dusan]

smells too fishy ...

pop stars, famous actors...talking about it...
talking about it, selling it to people.

i really think the elite does not really care that we know about as long as we keep our heads on the problem not the solution.

so lets go people lets talk about conspiracy...but lets forgot who we trully are!!!

thats what i think..

[paolo]

Ok my first line, I am NOT bashing Robbie Williams here.
But i spotted a few things in this interview that gives me cause for concern regarding where williams head really is. He said the stuff about the Illuminati, The grove, 9/11, might be true, or it might all be rubbish and the conspiracy theorists might all be crackpots? WTF Williams, if you research all them things properly, you will very quickly find out that they are real and actually 'conspiracy fact' if you want to find out the real truth of this planet, please do some proper deep research! Another point is that you said that you like magic in your life WTF again, I personally don't think that this very evil illuminati group that is shafting and killing the human race by its evil activities, is a magic fun thing.
You make it sound like its a walt disney fantasy thing, for your use, in your own fantasies and self indulgence.

I hope you read this post Mr Williams, please get a grip son. Until i saw this interview, i thought you were really getting your head around what is really going on in the world. Its very important for people like yourself to get the real truth out there. ;)
He says it's all a self thing in his Bodies video
He is a little self made self promoting celebrity
Still he is reaching out, finds magic in conspiracy that takes him beyond his self supporting belief, ie he feels empty and the knowledge of what is going on takes that empty celebrity crap away
He's actually got it whilst not wanting to state it quite openly

[branjo]

Ok my first line, I am NOT bashing Robbie Williams here.
But i spotted a few things in this interview that gives me cause for concern regarding where williams head really is. He said the stuff about the Illuminati, The grove, 9/11, might be true, or it might all be rubbish and the conspiracy theorists might all be crackpots? WTF Williams, if you research all them things properly, you will very quickly find out that they are real and actually 'conspiracy fact' if you want to find out the real truth of this planet, please do some proper deep research! Another point is that you said that you like magic in your life WTF again, I personally don't think that this very evil illuminati group that is shafting and killing the human race by its evil activities, is a magic fun thing.
You make it sound like its a walt disney fantasy thing, for your use, in your own fantasies and self indulgence.

I hope you read this post Mr Williams, please get a grip son. Until i saw this interview, i thought you were really getting your head around what is really going on in the world. Its very important for people like yourself to get the real truth out there. ;)

Well if he would have came on TV all serious talking about 3/4 of the world is going to be killed, or what project bluebeam is or how the "elite" are building D.U.M.B's to hide in because of some kind of destruction is coming. Do you think that he would have even got the airtime to say it?

It doesn't matter how he said it, the underlying fact is someone that loves Robbie Williams and who has never heard of any of this stuff will turn on the PC and Google the things he said and that's at least, a start.

Why is everyone looking for someone else to be the "Hero" for them. Robbie Williams is on TV talking about the things we talk about here, in that brief interview he reached probably more people than David Icke has in his life time, and Robbie's audience are young people too, the most important if you ask me.

Would you rather he just stick to talking about his new songs, or who he is wearing this year or what his favorite foods are, c'mon man, cut him some slack.

[siliconpsychosis]

So Robbie Williams decides to share his interest in conspiracies and some people seem to think this in itself is some kind of TPTB agenda. On that basis I better stop listening to everyone who has an ounce of celebrity in case they are being manipulated into expressing themselves. Sorry Icke that must include you too then. lol.

Better still perhaps I should ignore everything anyone says, celeb or no celeb, just in case they too have ulterior motives.

[dusan]

So Robbie Williams decides to share his interest in conspiracies and some people seem to think this in itself is some kind of TPTB agenda. On that basis I better stop listening to everyone who has an ounce of celebrity in case they are being manipulated into expressing themselves. Sorry Icke that must include you too then. lol.

Better still perhaps I should ignore everything anyone says, celeb or no celeb, just in case they too have ulterior motives.


listen no one but yourself

[limelady]

Ok my first line, I am NOT bashing Robbie Williams here.
But i spotted a few things in this interview that gives me cause for concern regarding where williams head really is. He said the stuff about the Illuminati, The grove, 9/11, might be true, or it might all be rubbish and the conspiracy theorists might all be crackpots? WTF Williams, if you research all them things properly, you will very quickly find out that they are real and actually 'conspiracy fact' if you want to find out the real truth of this planet, please do some proper deep research! Another point is that you said that you like magic in your life WTF again, I personally don't think that this very evil illuminati group that is shafting and killing the human race by its evil activities, is a magic fun thing.
You make it sound like its a walt disney fantasy thing, for your use, in your own fantasies and self indulgence.

I hope you read this post Mr Williams, please get a grip son. Until i saw this interview, i thought you were really getting your head around what is really going on in the world. Its very important for people like yourself to get the real truth out there. ;)

Robbie said he'd only researched in 'bits and bobs', so it seemed to me as though he's only been dabbling so far, or perhaps that's the perception he'd prefer 'out there' at the moment. I think he merely testing the water with this interview.....to see how his fan-base and the media will react to his 'conspiracy hobby' confession.

I get the feeling there is more to come from Robbie yet, and lets face it, whatever he says or does, he will be dammed by a few within our own ranks. Funny really isn't it how well known people (celebrities) are really stuffed either way.....dammed if they do and dammed if they don't speak out? No matter what they do, the conspiracy 'hard-nosers' (or the very paranoid) will point the finger at them for either NOT speaking out (they are PTB tools/puppets, so must be in on it it), and when they DO speak out like Robbie, they get slammed because 'they are PTB tools/puppets so must be in on it'! :rolleyes:

As far as I'm concerned, Robbie is just a well known fella, no different from most of the fellas on this forum, well, other than he probably has a few more dollars to fire around because he has made a success of his chosen career. So my thoughts are lets just accept what he has offered and be grateful......at this stage in the game we need all the help we can get!

[camreeno]

Who the hell is that guy? I'm from the US and never heard of him.

[limelady]

Who the hell is that guy? I'm from the US and never heard of him.

http://www.robbiewilliams.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_Williams

[camreeno]

http://www.robbiewilliams.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbie_WilliamsI already checked Wikipedia. I was hoping for some sort of synopsis from actual people who are familiar with him.

[branjo]

Who the hell is that guy? I'm from the US and never heard of him.

This must all seem like Chinese to you then...lol.

He was in a boy band that actually after all the usual boy band jokes had faded and the army of boy bands started to become common everyday occurrence, they weren't that bloody bad at all...lol. They were called "Take That".

Then Robbie left and started his solo career which proved a very good move, then he got into drugs a little and had to do the whole rehab thing to appease the record industry. Then it got to the point where he just said fuck it and he started to have an opinion separate from the music.

He actually has pretty good voice and I am sure you have heard of a few of his tracks, some are still good. I haven't heard any of his late stuff since I left the UK but 5 -6 years ago he was still knocking the hits out, and probably still is.

A few of his famous ones you might know, and after I listened to them now, there are a few lyrics thrown in there that let a little light shine on what he is saying now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73KIIOBCfK0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GlJSU6KecY

The last video was banned for a heck of a while for the way it gets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Op42vS3O44

(I am not a fan although I sound like I'm a fifteen year old girl with a room of Robbie posters...lol? But I am not I assure you). Anyway this is just between us, no one will know ;)

[camreeno]

^Ok thanks for clearing that up. I still don't think I've heard any of those songs. lol

[branjo]

lol...Doh

The last video half way through when he rips his skin off was pretty freaky I thought, people were like WTF! :eek:

[wakeupworld]

Never really liked him as an individual when seeing a documentary on him potraying an immense ego, but recently heard him on radio 2 (bbc) talking about his interest in UFO`s.

In my opinion he is still very much egostical that`s why I believe he is not saying that he actually believes in it all. The fact that he`s met Icke who would explain everything succinctly I suspect Robbie has done a lot of research and probably believes in it.

Forget his ego as long as he gets the message out then great.

[branjo]

Never really liked him as an individual when seeing a documentary on him potraying an immense ego, but recently heard him on radio 2 (bbc) talking about his interest in UFO`s.

In my opinion he is still very much egostical that`s why I believe he is not saying that he actually believes in it all. The fact that he`s met Icke who would explain everything succinctly I suspect Robbie has done a lot of research and probably believes in it.

Forget his ego as long as he gets the message out then great.

An ego would be hard to restrain when you are in that kind of lifestyle. All performers are egotistical though, its the nature of the beast.

But you have a point there.

[anthony65]

I was disappointed with this interview.

The things that stood out for me were that conspiracies are for people who don't want to grow up (Robbie says 8 year olds). He also uses the PARANOIA word so beloved of those who seek to marginalize anyone who questions the mainstream. He wants a bit of magic (or would that be magick?) in his life...

He does go into some detail about the writing of the New Testament and at this point I started to wonder whether this is the real focus of the Robbie Williams / conspiracy stuff.

This interview didn't do any favours for those who are seriously asking questions about critical issues of today or yesteryear.

I'll wait and see how Robbie presents his opinions in the future (as a celebrity he does reach a lot of people), but compared to the excellent recent statements by Jim Corr for example, Robbie's presentation was more of an own goal for those who want to seriously address serious issues.

Sorry Robbie! I'd love it if you proved me wrong!

[pureheart]

If Rob had come out there and said "9/11 was an inside job and we're all descended from aliens" he would have been crucified by the media and lost all credibility (think Bruce Willis' 'rant' about bankers).

I think he has played it very cleverly, he has just said that it's what interests him. He hasn't tried to preach to people (always a very good way to shut them down) and he hasn't come across as thinking that he knows better than the general public. He's given them a little taster and encouraged them to go out and see for themselves.

I think Rob's intellect is very underrated. He's a smart man.

[fekdemasons]

I was disappointed with this interview.

The things that stood out for me were that conspiracies are for people who don't want to grow up (Robbie says 8 year olds). He also uses the PARANOIA word so beloved of those who seek to marginalize anyone who questions the mainstream. He wants a bit of magic (or would that be magick?) in his life...

He does go into some detail about the writing of the New Testament and at this point I started to wonder whether this is the real focus of the Robbie Williams / conspiracy stuff.

This interview didn't do any favours for those who are seriously asking questions about critical issues of today or yesteryear.

I'll wait and see how Robbie presents his opinions in the future (as a celebrity he does reach a lot of people), but compared to the excellent recent statements by Jim Corr for example, Robbie's presentation was more of an own goal for those who want to seriously address serious issues.

Sorry Robbie! I'd love it if you proved me wrong!

Look at it this way,

He was testing the water... Wait till he rejoins take that and then watch Gary Barlows face sink when their live on stage and Robbie starts changing the lyrics....

"All the stars are coming out tonight , aligning with the galactic centre etc etc the queen is a reptile ...."


will you be happy then ? ;)

[anthony65]

If Rob had come out there and said "9/11 was an inside job and we're all descended from aliens" he would have been crucified by the media and lost all credibility (think Bruce Willis' 'rant' about bankers).

I think he has played it very cleverly, he has just said that it's what interests him. He hasn't tried to preach to people (always a very good way to shut them down) and he hasn't come across as thinking that he knows better than the general public. He's given them a little taster and encouraged them to go out and see for themselves.

I think Rob's intellect is very underrated. He's a smart man.

I don't know. Robbie is star. He's allowed to be a bit mad. In fact, it's part of his whacko image.

But the average Joe or Josie in the street wants to cuddle up close to the herd for fear of being isolated / ridiculed.

Maybe Robbie is speaking to those fearless enough to risk ridicule, but they are probably already questioning stuff anyway. The vast majority of people prefer to play it very safe. The buzz word "paranoia" is hardly going to encourage many to follow Robbie's example.

He's not saying anything new here. He's made his interests clear in the past.

I remain... Disappointed.

I'd love an evening with the Corrs though... :rolleyes:

[pureheart]

I don't know. Robbie is star. He's allowed to be a bit mad. In fact, it's part of his whacko image.

I really don't wish to appear disloyal (love you Robbie, honest) but did anyone else watch X Factor last night? I thought he looked stoned. I really hope I'm wrong, but his eyes weren't right at all and he looked pretty bewildered :(

[djhooker]

i think if i had to go on that piece of shit programme i'd be reaching for the drugs too!

[listener]

Some of the comments made about Robbie seem a little harsh.

Ya know when you read that first David Icke book or saw a clip of truth being offered in a tv programme that gave you that coldshiver feeling! You babbled on for hours to who ever would give you their time to sit and nod, rather than crush you with their ego by calling you mad !
He's no different to the rest of us who talk about the truths that sit so well with us . He's talking publicly about off the wall stuff that he's learning about ,why put him down for talking about topics we read about on these forums everyday!

We've all heard David talk about how he couldn't walk down the street after the Wogan Show or go for a drink in the pub without being laughed at.
Fair play to you Robbie ,you have had it all thrown at you from all heights so a little bit of ignorance won't dent your wanting to share this new world in disorder that's found you. No pun intented there !

We all want our voice to be heard , it's human nature isn't it. Having just been well and truly ripped off by so called 'friends' recently. Causing my family to be homeless and skint , it's the idea that everything is temporary if we want it to be keeps me thinking with hope through the dark moments.

Life is a test for us all , shouldn't we be supporting like minded people ,not putting them down cos we don't like them or the way they use their fame !

I soooo hope Robbie's new path continues to show him how sane he is, rather than how mad he may have thought he was.

You go Robbie, I love you.
I don't want to die but I'm not keen on living either ! ;)

* Jumps off soap box *

Julie :)

[bealert]

Who cares what Robbie Williams as to say..

[pureheart]

Ahhhh. Bless you Julie. :)

I was only saying last night that I think the reason that 'Robbie' is so successful is that he is lovable. I don't mean that in a cheesy way, and it's a little hard to vocalise, but I think beneath all the showbiz stuff we can all see a nice bloke called Rob from Stoke. He's a little bit of a jack the lad, sometimes a show-off, sometimes shy and contemplative, but what we love about him is the fact that he's very mortal. Like us, he has his weaknesses and insecurities, but he is kind and wants to please. He may remind us of a brother, a friend or a lover we once had, but I think there is just something about him that sparks a certain recognition. Women want to mother him and (secure) men want to be his mate. When he falls, we're all willing him to get back up again and when he's on top of the world, then we're up there with him sharing the glory. :D

[anthony65]

Some of the comments made about Robbie seem a little harsh.

Ya know when you read that first David Icke book or saw a clip of truth being offered in a tv programme that gave you that coldshiver feeling! You babbled on for hours to who ever would give you their time to sit and nod, rather than crush you with their ego by calling you mad !
He's no different to the rest of us who talk about the truths that sit so well with us . He's talking publicly about off the wall stuff that he's learning about ,why put him down for talking about topics we read about on these forums everyday!

We've all heard David talk about how he couldn't walk down the street after the Wogan Show or go for a drink in the pub without being laughed at.
Fair play to you Robbie ,you have had it all thrown at you from all heights so a little bit of ignorance won't dent your wanting to share this new world in disorder that's found you. No pun intented there !

We all want our voice to be heard , it's human nature isn't it. Having just been well and truly ripped off by so called 'friends' recently. Causing my family to be homeless and skint , it's the idea that everything is temporary if we want it to be keeps me thinking with hope through the dark moments.

Life is a test for us all , shouldn't we be supporting like minded people ,not putting them down cos we don't like them or the way they use their fame !

I soooo hope Robbie's new path continues to show him how sane he is, rather than how mad he may have thought he was.

You go Robbie, I love you.
I don't want to die but I'm not keen on living either ! ;)

* Jumps off soap box *

Julie :)

Sorry to hear that you've been having a difficult time Julie.

At the end of the day, Robbie is a human being trying to make sense of the world like the rest of us. I wish him well, but I would apply the same criteria to Robbie as I would to David Icke or anyone.

We don't truly support people through unquestioning loyalty, but I think it shows whether criticism is well intended or not. Sometimes it's a jungle out there, as you seem to be experiencing at the moment, but your attitude does you great credit! I wish you and your family all the best. Who are the true heroes people ask? People like you, Julie! :)

[pureheart]

Mission accepted. :)

While I was looking I found this - you may have seen it before but it mentions DI at the bottom.

ROBBIE WILLIAMS has sold 55 million albums worldwide and has more Brit Awards to his name than any other artist in history.

But the star believes he would struggle to get through to the final stages of The X Factor - because his singing voice isn't up to scratch.
Robbie, 35, is convinced he would be no match for the contestants competing for a record deal this year.
And that's a big statement considering he has six No1 singles and eight No1 albums to his name.
In the third instalment of Robbie's exclusive interview with The Sun, he said: "I would definitely have entered The X Factor if I was a kid now. Of course I would have.
"I'd be excited and overwhelmed by the opportunity of getting through one of the rounds.
"It would be the only format to do that for someone like me.
"My voice isn't as good as some of these people competing. I might not have got through because I am lucky if I can get through a song and I've sung it in key. These people can really f****** sing."
Robbie is appearing on the hit ITV show tomorrow as a mentor.

But the singer, who will test his nerves by performing on the show tonight, was apprehensive about what he could offer the hopefuls.
He said: "I've got to go and do mentoring and I haven't got a clue what I am going to say.
"I wouldn't know what to tell myself. If there are little nuances that need to be changed in the music and the way they are singing, I am not going to spot them.
"I could be the most boring mentor since Mariah Carey. God bless her, she's ace. But all she said was, 'That's great. God bless you'."
With some gentle coaxing Robbie soon opened up with his views on the show so far.
And he has definitely been doing his homework.
"Well, I don't know what happened to Danyl. I saw his first audition and I just thought, 'There's the fella that has come and will take the crown away.'
"I will have a chat with him and I'll tell him to chill out. Let them walk around you, don't go to them.
"I thought he was phenomenal in the first audition he did.
"I thought Rachel is already fully-formed and a really interesting character. I can tell she will have some good, interesting things to sing about and interesting ways to say them.
"John and Edward are the Marmite of this show. I can see something interesting in them. They kind of scare me. There's something there. Maybe it's a show on Nickelodeon?

"And I think Olly, the Essex guy, is really good."
One person who has really impressed Robbie is X Factor judge and music boss Simon Cowell.
"I love Simon. I am a big fan of his. I think he is incredible. He's the most charismatic man on the planet right now. He's a very, very interesting man indeed."
And Cheryl Cole has also caught his eye: "Cheryl Cole. She's fit isn't she? Incredibly pretty."
Robbie is about to release his brilliant new album Reality Killed The Video Star, his eighth studio release. The album will go head-to-head with JLS, last year's runners-up on The X Factor and 2009's answer to Robbie's former band Take That.
But the singer isn't worried about the chart battle.
He is more concerned about a return to the stage - where he will be forced to confront a crippling stage-fright problem.
He said: "I'll find out if I can still do it this weekend. Then I have a gig at the BBC Electric Proms.
"I have been worried about that. I have got to go and be somebody I am not, which is what I do when I get on stage.
"I haven't done it for three years. All I have got to do is stand up and sing some songs. That's how I have got to view it." One thing Robbie won't be doing this weekend is handing out his mobile number to hopefuls.
And it's for a very simple reason - he no longer has his own mobile phone, relying on girlfriend Ayda Field to filter all his messages.
He admitted: "I don't have a mobile. People get hold of my number and basically if anyone asked for it I'd hand it out.
"I'd be waking up every day and out of ten texts that I got, eight would be asking me for things.
"I am not very good on the phone anyway. I never have been. I get a bit clumped up on it. So I decided I'd be best without one of these so I got rid of it. I am an e-mail man."
A lot has been written recently about Robbie rejoining Take That.
A mention of a reunion, and new material, earns a gigantic grin, plus a nod and a wink from the singer.
He even played their album The Circus to me and sang along to Gary Barlow's vocals.
"The Take That tour was fantastic. The show was amazing," he said. "It was f****** phenomenal. I did fancy being part of it. Yes I did.

"When they all got together on stage and played instruments, it was awesome. That's a band I want to be in. Their last album was really good.
"I did wish I had written some of it. The Circus album, whatever way you look at it, is a f****** good album. They all write on it. They all chip in.
"My favourite track is How Did It Come To This. When I heard it I was thinking, 'I wish that was on my album.' The Garden is class. I love it all. Hold Up The Light is great too. They are such good lads."
Earlier this year Robbie and Gary made peace during a trip to see Arsenal v Manchester United at the Gunners' Emirates Stadium.
And even though Robbie is about to move back to LA permanently, the Port Vale fan, who was born in Stoke-on-Trent, still lives for the beautiful game.
"I think United are a bit s*** this year. Scholes' legs have gone. It's a shame," he said. "He doesn't say much, Rooney, does he?
"He is the most shy person. He has been to see a couple of gigs and I love him to bits."
The star, who raises millions of pounds with a celebrity football match for Unicef every year, added: "Stoke are doing well. I'd love to go to the Britannia Stadium but I think I'd probably have my arms and legs ripped off if I did."
When Robbie isn't in his studio, watching DVDs with "the missus" or engrossed in online pool, he harbours a huge fascination with UFOs.
He scours YouTube for footage of conventions and attends meetings in LA to hear testimony from people who have had "sightings".
During our conversation I ask about his friendship with David Icke, the former TV broadcaster branded a crackpot for his eccentric theories about the future of the human race.
He said: "I am into all that stuff David Icke talks about. He never mentions the reptilian stuff. I speak to him every now and again. I'm incredibly interested in it, to be honest with you.
"I am really, really open-minded. So much so, my brain may have fallen out! I am not going to discount anything he says. Which might be, publicly and perception-wise, to the detriment of myself.
"If you look at it and you don't know much about it, it might come across as lunacy. And it might be. It might be just that."
But there's no lunacy in Robbie's new album Reality Killed The Video star, out on November 9. It has No1 written all over it. His single Bodies, is available for download tomorrow and in shops on Monday.

http://www.purerobbie.com/showthread.php?p=1463314#post1463314

[lookfar]

I don't think it's fair to slate the guy. He's playing it safe by not fully committing himself either way - but tbh I do that myself too when I'm not sure what the reaction is going to be with people. You can't knock him for that & I'm pleased to see that he's speaking out about it all - good onya Robbie, keep it up!:D

Planting the seeds is what counts - if people want to take it further & research for themselves, then that's another person who's been made aware. If they don't, then that's ok too - you can't say you didn't try!

[wakeup2nwo]

People just stop and think for one minute!

Just imagine how many pop/robbie fans of all ages are going to see that little interview. I'd say thousands will see it, and he's planted little seeds in the minds of them all!

And mentioning Zeitgeist was pure genius, even if you dont agree with it, its a place were many people start on the road to seeing this world for what it really is!

It all gets a hell of alot of people asking a hell of alot of questions doesnt it?

He will do more waking up than all of us put together with this!

Fine job Robbie, and the song 'boddies' sounds like it was wrote on this site, just listen to it and try to take in what he's actually trying to say!

Question everything, the truth has no need to hide, if it is good and just!

i agree totally. he has planted the seed and it will grow, great job Robbie, dont hold back, keep it up and stay strong!

[pureheart]

ROBBIE was caught up in an accident outside the X Factor studios last night when a photographer fell under the wheels of his chauffeur-driven car. The cameraman was taken to hospital with minor injuries.


Whoops :eek:

[pureheart]

Well he woke at least one person up judging by the comments on here...

http://www.robbiewilliams.com/news-blogs/international-round?page=1


The video clip on this link is longer and is good quality.

[branjo]

ROBBIE was caught up in an accident outside the X Factor studios last night when a photographer fell under the wheels of his chauffeur-driven car. The cameraman was taken to hospital with minor injuries.


Whoops :eek:

Fucking photographers, always somewhere were they shouldn't be.

I'd have just drove on, and considered it a speed bump. :D

[wakeup2nwo]

this might be nothing but did anyone notice on the video to bodies, when hes on the motorbike his number plate is number 6, but there are three plates on a motocross bike, one at the front and one at each side, so hes moter bike says 666, i picked up on this straight away, and i dont think its a coincidence, what do you think????

[mrerisian]

WTF Williams, if you research all them things properly, you will very quickly find out that they are real and actually 'conspiracy fact' if you want to find out the real truth of this planet, please do some proper deep research!

See it's interesting you should say that because I've found the total opposite. Real 'proper deep research'* made, The Grove a little less clear cut for me. Same for 9/11.

*I've put up a string about this elsewhere. I'm not sure how many people agree on this board as to what research really is. What I'm talking about is direct communication with people involved (specifically RE: The Grove) plus a lot of time on the net.

[pureheart]

I know what you mean. I always look for statements made by 'real people' rather than 'stories' on the internet. I know that they could be lying, but at some point you just have to use your instinct on who to trust.

[mrerisian]

at some point you just have to use your instinct on who to trust.

Or suspend 'judgement' for another day. I'm at the Robert Anton Wilson stage, just don't believe anything.

[pureheart]

More synchronicity - I just checked out your Robert Anton Wilson on Wiki and he had post-polio syndrome. I'd never heard of that until this morning when I was reading about ME possibly being post-polio syndrome. :confused:

[erthiz]

I think hes a genuine guy, i dont believe hes an illuminati puppet or anything.

Fair play to him for doing this, i heard he spent a bit of time with David recently talking about it all.

[narcolepticwatchman]

Or suspend 'judgement' for another day. I'm at the Robert Anton Wilson stage, just don't believe anything.

I don't know if thats possible bud. You gotta believe something even if it is that you aren't going to believe anything. I understand a lot of what you have said in this thread and I have had very similar thoughts. I think the Grove is a pile of pish. The fact that jones got in was for me, the deciding factor. If it were as bad and powerful as its made out he wouldn't have got anywhere near. No doubt there is loads of disinformation out there, in fact, I would probably say that its possibly as high as 80% of the shit you read on these sites but again, if you were in control, if you were the hidden hand, the disinformation would be one of your greatest tools. For me, all I need is to see it for my own eyes. No giant leaps required. If someone has been saying for over 50 years that there is a new world order planned and it happens, its good enough for me (See Eustace Mullins) if I read the Protocols which were translated over 100 years ago and the majority of stuff outlined in them has happend, again its good enough for me. I know people will say it was ruled a forgery in a court of law....but you cannot forge something which does not exist in the 1st place so by denouncing it as a forgery they have, to me, admitted that the document exists.

Again, I know enough to know this is all fucked up. That is enough without getting bogged down in the fine detail. That would just drive you insane.

[kimone]

Sorry but I couldn't watch for more than 44 seconds. The guy is a creation of the illuminati paternalistic-pop-daddy industry and yet here he is, babbling on about conspiracy theories like it's the new iPhone or something.

I always believed that these people are tools of the elite. They are used to propagate memes and themes to the so-called "ignorant sheep". Why would it be that he is talking in these terms? Could it be that his attention to popular conspiracy theories makes people feel like somebody they idolise is actually on their side?

Nothing will change unless we become the change we desire...... I agree with you on this,i watched a video called " bodies" by Robbie Williams,thats when i thought something isnt right with him, i thought the vidoe was a bit strange. i would put a link up of that video,but havent got a clue how to do it :o:confused:

[goldenbear]

why do people have to read everything bad into it when someone says they have researched the conspiricy theories. the whole point of the truther movement is to reach out to all on our planet and make them think for themselves.

if he says hes not sure about everything he has read why cant we leave it at that.why does the illuminate have to be bought into everything a person says.

we all know that they control the media/music buisness but it doesnt mean people have lost their very wills to live and are living like zombies (i know there are some out there who will argue this point).

if he is like some of you are suggesting a puppet. then maybe we have all got it wrong. the illuminate,top of the food chain. ect.... are wanting us to wake up and have a revolution.so they can say."there it is you need us to take over,and stop yourselves from creating yet another war" (whether its being a physical or spiritual war)

anyway what do i know.im just a slave.;)

[goldenbear]

just to add another point. i like robbie. there is something that appears to be genuine about the man.

i mean hes got his demons,like us common mortals.but he just comes across as human. not like some of the herps. you know dead eyes,fixed smile sort of thing.

i wish him all the best and hope his life is good.

its not our place to slate everyone.only the ones we proove to be a herp.:D

[reptileslayer]

I don't know. Robbie is star. He's allowed to be a bit mad. In fact, it's part of his whacko image.

But the average Joe or Josie in the street wants to cuddle up close to the herd for fear of being isolated / ridiculed.

Maybe Robbie is speaking to those fearless enough to risk ridicule, but they are probably already questioning stuff anyway. The vast majority of people prefer to play it very safe. The buzz word "paranoia" is hardly going to encourage many to follow Robbie's example.

He's not saying anything new here. He's made his interests clear in the past.

I remain... Disappointed.

I'd love an evening with the Corrs though... :rolleyes:
MMMM The corrs especially andrea corr :p
And i like Jim corrs attitide he's spot on.

[grachtengordel]

I was only saying last night that I think the reason that 'Robbie' is so successful is that he is lovable. I don't mean that in a cheesy way, and it's a little hard to vocalise, but I think beneath all the showbiz stuff we can all see a nice bloke called Rob from Stoke. He's a little bit of a jack the lad, sometimes a show-off, sometimes shy and contemplative, but what we love about him is the fact that he's very mortal. Like us, he has his weaknesses and insecurities, but he is kind and wants to please. He may remind us of a brother, a friend or a lover we once had, but I think there is just something about him that sparks a certain recognition. Women want to mother him and (secure) men want to be his mate. When he falls, we're all willing him to get back up again and when he's on top of the world, then we're up there with him sharing the glory.

what a pile of shite. are you his agent or something

robbie is a pawn. nothing more. his songs are written for him, or bought from real songwriters, he is a puppet, a marionette playing a role.

[sardonicus]

Goldenbear: if he says hes not sure about everything he has read why cant we leave it at that. Why does the illuminati have to be bought into everything a person says... its not our place to slate everyone.


AGREE. The Robster is rich and famous which means that by showing interest
in David Icke's work (and those like him), he will get torn to shreds, especially
here on this forum!!, well, at least until all the hype about his 'interests' has
died down, or he somehow proves himself to those who blindly believe
that 'EVERYTHING is a psy-op' or 'an illuminati plot'.

So, for the time being, I'm gonna cut Robbie Williams some slack here too.
Anyways, just because he's rich and famous doesn't mean that he's
an 'illuminati puppet' or a "tool of the elite." What utter nonsense!

IMO Mr Williams has just as much right as anyone else to research and be
interested in conspiracy theories and talk about those interests without ridicule
and persecution. There are some decent, sincere awakened people amongst
the rich and famous too. Having money and a priviledged position can also be
used for GOOD - and people in Robbie Williams' position are able to reach
many people via the media.

Yes, I agree, Robbie isn't saying anything new. Yes, the song lyrics and video
are a bit weird, but it's clear what 'subliminal messages' Robbie is conveying
here about his true beliefs and 'interests'.

[pureheart]

what a pile of shite. are you his agent or something

robbie is a pawn. nothing more. his songs are written for him, or bought from real songwriters, he is a puppet, a marionette playing a role.

Who exactly are you to call my opinion 'a pile of shite'? Sorry, I didn't know that God was a member of this message board. :mad:

I was merely trying to explain why, in my opinion, Robbie is so popular. The fact that he sold out Knebworth for three nights in a row and that you can't buy tickets for his comeback concert for less than £500 proves that fact. It's not just speculation - a lot of people love the man.

If you think he is such a puppet, then prove it. Oh you can't? Didn't think so.

[mrerisian]

what a pile of shite. are you his agent or something

robbie is a pawn. nothing more. his songs are written for him, or bought from real songwriters, he is a puppet, a marionette playing a role.

I thought it was a pretty good description of his appeal. It certainly fits the facts. What FACTS are you bringing to the table grachtengordel? Why do you think in the way you do?

[ragman]

i think Robbie is great in what hes done , he's given people the idea to perhaps research and look into the conspiracy theories , regardless of whether he is a pawn or a tool by the iluminati , from then on peoples research into everything will snow ball on its own , they will follow their own path from then on , but to get started into this , it needs to be simple to begin with , something that people can relate to . BUT i would like to see Robbie on the forums if he is a true supporter and belieever of it all, also i would like to think that the people on here wouldnt digress off topic if robbie were to make an appearence on the forums, and people would look beyond the fact he is a musical artist and treat him no different to everyone else.

[listener]

Ahhhh. Bless you Julie. :)

I was only saying last night that I think the reason that 'Robbie' is so successful is that he is lovable. I don't mean that in a cheesy way, and it's a little hard to vocalise, but I think beneath all the showbiz stuff we can all see a nice bloke called Rob from Stoke. He's a little bit of a jack the lad, sometimes a show-off, sometimes shy and contemplative, but what we love about him is the fact that he's very mortal. Like us, he has his weaknesses and insecurities, but he is kind and wants to please. He may remind us of a brother, a friend or a lover we once had, but I think there is just something about him that sparks a certain recognition. Women want to mother him and (secure) men want to be his mate. When he falls, we're all willing him to get back up again and when he's on top of the world, then we're up there with him sharing the glory. :D

I think of Robbie as a lost soul constantly wishing he could walk through the doors in his mind ,but has no idea what he's looking for. We're all a bit like that at times eh!
He's easy to care about , like you are I sense! :)

[listener]

Sorry to hear that you've been having a difficult time Julie.

At the end of the day, Robbie is a human being trying to make sense of the world like the rest of us. I wish him well, but I would apply the same criteria to Robbie as I would to David Icke or anyone.

We don't truly support people through unquestioning loyalty, but I think it shows whether criticism is well intended or not. Sometimes it's a jungle out there, as you seem to be experiencing at the moment, but your attitude does you great credit! I wish you and your family all the best. Who are the true heroes people ask? People like you, Julie! :)

Thank you very much for saying that ...... so kind of you .
I've been lost in anger and frustration along with the urge to spew hurt on them, but as Mike , he's my hubby ,keeps reminding me . The Law of Attraction will deal with the situation. Negative thought from us will only attract more problems.

Much love Anthony. X

[pureheart]

ROBBIE was caught up in an accident outside the X Factor studios last night when a photographer fell under the wheels of his chauffeur-driven car. The cameraman was taken to hospital with minor injuries.


Whoops :eek:

I've just found this (more info about the photographer).

Poor lad :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219782/Robbie-Williams-tears-driver-runs-teenage-photographer-outside-X-Factor-studios.html

[tzlr_17]

Great. The words 'conspiracy theories' and 'crackpots' within the first few seconds.

More perpetuating the automatic assumption that anyone who 'believes in conspiracy theories' is a 'crackpot'.... hasn't he done a fair amount of drugs recently - enough for him to be added to the pile of 'conspiracy nutters'?

If he really believes 9/11 was an inside job this is not the best way of getting the message across to the people of the world. He's just setting himself up to be 'another conspiracy nut' people can ignore / ridicule.

I am biased against the man though - mainly because I absolutely loathe his music, and because someone I know won a competition to meet Robbie. He did a runner after realising that the girl was, to put it bluntly, a bit fat and ugly!

To be fair I suppose if this gets through to some of the sheeple it may be a good thing. But I'm not convinced.

[luka6000000]

British C. Sheen.

Every country should get one.

[ilponn]

he planted seeds in people minds that good enough for me , well done robbie :)


you should run for PM

[edelweiss pirate]

Well done Robbie....
Good start...
You should have come out with it and said though-9/11 was an inside job...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-UlnpW7ks

Does he believe in God?... he seems to have an 'odd relationship'..... 'sorry God' he says, feels fear and judgement from 'God' .......... NOT NECESSARY...without wisdom any communication can become further distortion in theplanetary human field. Need to have BASICS of WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AND WHY!

He seen a few movies and surfs the web... so what? Does he have any personal experience of extra material concepts, like transcendendence, out of body travel?

It's a step in the right direction, just realise we are beings in amnesia who have A LOT to remember.......

A lot of people blame God for all their problems and even go so far as to say it doesn't exist.....

As I say, there's a lot to remember..

Robert Williams read Robert Monroe Trilogy ASAP!!!

WE WILL ALL BE FREE!

[bendelapidate]

What tosh. He's a bloke who just happens to be more talented and successful than you. That's the only real difference. Deal with it.

I don't have anything to deal with. I've never idolised people like him and I certainly don't measure success in material terms. By the way, I'm successful in my own way (that isn't being a pop star), but then you wouldn't know because you don't actually know me.

If you can't express an opinion without being insulting, you shouldn't be here.


This 'movement' has an inbuilt self destruct system which infuriates me. How do you ever expect a mass awakening if people like you are always sat on the sidelines sniping away? Where's your evidence for the allegation you post?

I'm not sniping - I'm giving my opinion over what he's said. Deal with it.




Same question to you benderapidate - give me your evidence for this allegation.
No need, it's self evident to most. Manufactured pop star with a history of drug abuse, alcohol addiction etc. suddenly starts talking about conspiracy theories in the mainstream media. The day the "conspiracy" goes mainstream is the day it's been discovered that the mainstream media can make money out of peddling untruths and claiming outrageous things with zero evidence. Oh, wait a minute...

[whiterain]

I've just found this (more info about the photographer).

Poor lad :(

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219782/Robbie-Williams-tears-driver-runs-teenage-photographer-outside-X-Factor-studios.html

anyone notice in here robbie talks about his drug problems then it says 'you can buy sativa which is like lsd for 5 minutes'

have they misprinted salvia or has robbie found himself some exceptional weed? it seems he is certainly looking behind the veil. good for him. anyone with the guts to speak out in his position doesnt really deserve the shit hes getting on this thread, no matter what you think of his past

[bendelapidate]

http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/images/eye-of-horus-tattoo.jpg

[iane78]

I've never particularly liked Robbie (he seems up himself) or his music, but I was suprised and initially impressed when I heard he'd done this. I've seen the interview however, and cannot believe some people are congratulating him. He is completely discrediting this movement, trivialising it, lumping everything together, yeah it's cool Robbie, magic(!), we all need magic in our lives! "It may be nonsense... they may all be nutters". This isn't helpful. He doesn't appear to know what he's talking about. It's all very vague and trivial. Would you want people to think he speaks for you??? Yeah this "Swine Flu conspiracy... maybe we should take it, maybe not" jist. He may as well have talked about fairies, and Santa, and the toothfairy, and Magic! I love magic me... Oh and I used to take drugs, and I align, well maybe I do, I'm not so sure of myself... bit confused.. Paranoia... with the conspiracy nuts... I mean truthers. He's either just brainless, or working for this agenda. And some people call Alex Jones a Disinfo Agent!!

I'm sorry for the stream of consciousness type ramble, but that's the best I can express myself at this moment. Like I say, the guy is either a fake, or coming across as an idiot. It's not a joke Robbie. If you're for real Robbie, that interview wasn't very helpful.

If he'd have come out and said "Don't take the Swine Flu vaccine!" and left it at that I would've had some respect for him. Done more harm than good in my opinion...

[decode reality]

I've been mooching about on Robbie William's forum and haven't seen any reference to the interview. There could be.

I'm sure one or two might be intrigued enough to explore those little soundbytes but what you often find with the majority of music fans is that they'll take on board their songs but not necessarily their idol's personal/"political" interests.

www.robbiewilliams.com

[venividivici2311]

http://www.freetattoodesigns.org/images/eye-of-horus-tattoo.jpg

:eek: OMG!!!
AN EYE?! disinfo i tell you,blasfemy!!!
but what about the eye in David Icke's book company logo then????
.....oh wait.....thats just because it looked good.....;)

[sade]

Having a tattoo of the eye of Horus is evil, I presume, bendela? It must mean he is mind-controlled?

Robbie, like over 70% of the people reading into conspiracy theories are reminded and even ASKED to do their OWN research and not to believe everything they read, but even then you have these dimwits who believe that AJ got inside the Bohemian Grove without being noticed, that satellites are sending waves in to our brain to make us eat aspartame, reptilians, the apocalypse...It's unbeliavable, really. And yet, conspiracy theorists have the balls to look down upon the "sheep", when they are the being leaded just as much as the majority is.

[decode reality]

I've never particularly liked Robbie (he seems up himself) or his music, but I was suprised and initially impressed when I heard he'd done this. I've seen the interview however, and cannot believe some people are congratulating him. He is completely discrediting this movement, trivialising it, lumping everything together, yeah it's cool Robbie, magic(!), we all need magic in our lives! "It may be nonsense... they may all be nutters". This isn't helpful. He doesn't appear to know what he's talking about. It's all very vague and trivial. Would you want people to think he speaks for you??? Yeah this "Swine Flu conspiracy... maybe we should take it, maybe not" jist. He may as well have talked about fairies, and Santa, and the toothfairy, and Magic! I love magic me... Oh and I used to take drugs, and I align, well maybe I do, I'm not so sure of myself... bit confused.. Paranoia... with the conspiracy nuts... I mean truthers. He's either just brainless, or working for this agenda. And some people call Alex Jones a Disinfo Agent!!

I'm sorry for the stream of consciousness type ramble, but that's the best I can express myself at this moment. Like I say, the guy is either a fake, or coming across as an idiot. It's not a joke Robbie. If you're for real Robbie, that interview wasn't very helpful.

If he'd have come out and said "Don't take the Swine Flu vaccine!" and left it at that I would've had some respect for him. Done more harm than good in my opinion...

You've pretty much summed up my thoughts but I doubt he's really done any harm. And I don't really wonder if he's working for "them". I mean, if his website is anything to go by, most of his fans aren't interested. And it's not as though everything he says is now front page news, as opposed to a few years back. They're interested in the single and the next gig/album, that's about it.

I'm not disappointed but my own feeling from his approach was that he may as well have been talking about 'Chariots Of The Gods' or Dan Brown. In other words, "Coffee table conspiracies".

[bendelapidate]

I've never particularly liked Robbie (he seems up himself) or his music, but I was suprised and initially impressed when I heard he'd done this. I've seen the interview however, and cannot believe some people are congratulating him. He is completely discrediting this movement, trivialising it, lumping everything together, yeah it's cool Robbie, magic(!), we all need magic in our lives! "It may be nonsense... they may all be nutters". This isn't helpful. He doesn't appear to know what he's talking about. It's all very vague and trivial. Would you want people to think he speaks for you??? Yeah this "Swine Flu conspiracy... maybe we should take it, maybe not" jist. He may as well have talked about fairies, and Santa, and the toothfairy, and Magic! I love magic me... Oh and I used to take drugs, and I align, well maybe I do, I'm not so sure of myself... bit confused.. Paranoia... with the conspiracy nuts... I mean truthers. He's either just brainless, or working for this agenda. And some people call Alex Jones a Disinfo Agent!!

I'm sorry for the stream of consciousness type ramble, but that's the best I can express myself at this moment. Like I say, the guy is either a fake, or coming across as an idiot. It's not a joke Robbie. If you're for real Robbie, that interview wasn't very helpful.

If he'd have come out and said "Don't take the Swine Flu vaccine!" and left it at that I would've had some respect for him. Done more harm than good in my opinion...
+1

[frase]

Robbie was testing the water with this, kind of understand why he presented the info as he did.....
Didn't like the way he tried to justify it all though, using words like nutter etc...
Should have just said yeah..Im interested in all of it...
its very compelling and I have many questions....
Have some balls Rob if you are reading this, I know you come on the forum....
Must try harder Rob...Blow this shit wide open dude.
Maybe a 9/11 Inside Job T Shirt next time you play at Knebworth in front of thousands......
The time is now....
These scumbags aren't worth protecting-Dont be scared.......

[frase]

If I was Robbie-I'd come out with it live on TV in front of millions.
On the X factor th eother night would have been good....

[branjo]

Oh please, how many people get the opportunity to address this many people and say exactly what they think?. If Robbie Williams were to do that then you would watch the painful death of his career, and never see him on TV again. How many mainstream sources would put David Icke on national TV? None!

Whatever David Icke says is only going to ever be heard by people who are interested firstly in what he says by word of mouth from one person to another. More people know Robbie Williams exists than they do David Icke.

He made a exclamated point of saying "watch Zeitgeist", that will undoubtedly have a lot of his fans hitting the google searches for it. It also says a lot of things that you just CANNOT say on national television. No matter how people think Zeitgeist is a NWO tool or agenda, you cannot escape the debate about it, as soon as you google it there are pro's and cons relating to it. The information in it will take people into new areas they hadn't even considered.

Of course he is up himself he has a gifted lifestyle, he hasn't had to slum it in quite a while and there are people in awe of him. All I hear is people that can't work out one single way of helping themselves let alone the world around them, all there is aimed at this guy is pure jealousy and contempt for him having a podium to speak about such things.

He is hardly going to start calling the Queen a shape shifting lizard that eats babies now is he? Or tell the people that the Media is a bunch of controlled puppets and liars, Or the British and American governments have been funding terrorism against their own people, and still expect the interview to make it to the internet never mind the TV.

Grow a brain ffs. What he did in 2 minutes most of us will not accomplish in our life times with the amount of people he reached.

We know its not a joke, "HE" knows its not a joke. But the people who do think it is all a joke don't see it as a threat, and making it out to be a joke got it right past the censors nose.

The information will reach who it is meant to reach and not one person more.

Added:

Bill Hicks was a stand up comedian, George Carlin was a stand up comedian are we to assume that just because they made jokes, that it was a joke to them?
The people who can read between the lines are the only people you can reach, the rest will just wave it off as nothing, you cannot force people to listen.
The harder you try the worse you look, why would anyone listen to someone point of view when they are confused, paranoid, angry and afraid.
No one want's themselves to look like that, so people actually stay away from the information that is associated with all that emotion.
A passing joke or a few well chosen words can go a heck of a lot longer than standing on a street corner chanting like a moron with placard in hand.

[sithnemesis]

If I was Robbie-I'd come out with it live on TV in front of millions.
On the X factor th eother night would have been good....

and then you would get 'suicided' as you go to sleep and never wake up to see the pills scattered around you with a prescription nearby explaining how you were addicted to sleeping pills, anti-depressants and pain-killers. :)

[mrerisian]

all there is aimed at this guy is pure jealousy and contempt for him having a podium to speak about such things
100% agree.

Great. The words 'conspiracy theories' and 'crackpots' within the first few seconds.
Yeah because there's no connection in real life is there? Do you ever read this forum? We've got out fair share of rubber stamped wackos.

To the wider group of people who are attacking him - if you want to keep 'conspiracy theory' as an exclusive club keep going the way you are. If you want a mass awakening brace yourself for more of this kind of thing.

Lets take the following example of the overall problem...

I don't have anything to deal with. I've never idolised people like him and I certainly don't measure success in material terms.
Meethinks the lady doth ...


I'm successful in my own way (that isn't being a pop star), but then you wouldn't know because you don't actually know me.

If you can't express an opinion without being insulting, you shouldn't be here.

Sorry you were so insulted by my assertion. Perhaps you should think about why that is?


The day the "conspiracy" goes mainstream is the day it's been discovered that the mainstream media can make money out of peddling untruths and claiming outrageous things with zero evidence. Oh, wait a minute...
Finally - the above is the most important part. Jealousy is being combined with classic "that's my band" syndrome. I used to love Suede then suddenly every kid in school loves Suede. Ruined it for me!

Conspiracy theories - if you believe in them - should not be dogged by the same logic. It's not a fashion statement.

[frase]

You are right...I guess he has to be careful.....
Sheen is ok though isn't he?
He hasn't been suicided......

[adzboarder]

Hey guys, I have an interesting Robbie story for you and I hope indeed that the real Robbie Williams himself is reading this.

My sister was obsessed with this guy during the Take That era, she was 14 or whatever so I received an education about him from her when we were younger and living with our parents.

I quite like some of his stuff, Jesus in a Campervan for example and Me and my monkey are just 2 of the coolest tracks.

So anyway the anecdote is that I have read the autobiography "Feel". But the interesting thing about this book is that I read it exclusively while I was taking a dump. It lived in my toilet for about a year and this is no word of a lie. I found it really quite interesting to see how the press invents shit about him and he seems to let it all bounce off and has a devil may care attitude anyway. Seems a cool guy and its good for someone of his stature to make comments like this, maybe now its time to step up to the plate with some solid facts.

Anyway, I highly recommend Feel for a good book to read whilst taking a shit. You can get through it in about a years worth of toilet time.

[iane78]

Oh please, how many people get the opportunity to address this many people and say exactly what they think?. If Robbie Williams were to do that then you would watch the painful death of his career, and never see him on TV again. How many mainstream sources would put David Icke on national TV? None! [I agree]

Whatever David Icke says is only going to ever be heard by people who are interested firstly in what he says by word of mouth from one person to another. More people know Robbie Williams exists than they do David Icke.

He made a exclamated point of saying "watch Zeitgeist", that will undoubtedly have a lot of his fans hitting the google searches for it . It also says a lot of things that you just CANNOT say on national television. No matter how people think Zeitgeist is a NWO tool or agenda, you cannot escape the debate about it, as soon as you google it there are pro's and cons relating to it. The information in it will take people into new areas they hadn't even considered. [I agree]

Of course he is up himself he has a gifted lifestyle, he hasn't had to slum it in quite a while and there are people in awe of him. All I hear is people that can't work out one single way of helping themselves let alone the world around them, all there is aimed at this guy is pure jealousy [nonsense, jealous of what exactly? Not bothered about money, fame etc. I don't think he's talented, and I think the guy has an inflated ego - understandable, he's a performer!] and contempt for him having a podium to speak about such things.

He is hardly going to start calling the Queen a shape shifting lizard that eats babies now is he? Or tell the people that the Media is a bunch of controlled puppets and liars, Or the British and American governments have been funding terrorism against their own people, and still expect the interview to make it to the internet never mind the TV. [no, but he could speak about the Swine Flu vaccine for instance, and know some of the facts. That would be helpful, wouldn't you agree?]

Grow a brain ffs. [No need to fling insults :)] What he did in 2 minutes most of us will not accomplish in our life times with the amount of people he reached. [Not many people will see this interview I would suggest, agreeing with a previous poster]

We know its not a joke, "HE" knows its not a joke. [Is "he" not a dude, dude? :) He wasn't telling jokes, he wasn't presenting any informed stuff relating to this either though was he?] But the people who do think it is all a joke don't see it as a threat, and making it out to be a joke got it right past the censors nose.

The information will reach who it is meant to reach and not one person more.

Added:

Bill Hicks was a stand up comedian, George Carlin was a stand up comedian are we to assume that just because they made jokes, that it was a joke to them? [Both Hicks and Carlin were brilliant and were deadly serious about their material, more so than these "moral", serious people, politicians etc. You missed my point re jokes entirely]
The people who can read between the lines [I would suggest that on this particular subject you are not reading between the lines] are the only people you can reach, the rest will just wave it off as nothing, you cannot force people to listen.
The harder you try the worse you look, why would anyone listen to someone point of view when they are confused, paranoid, angry and afraid. [Or even, someone spouting vague theories, without backing up their musings? But good point, and I agree with you]
No one want's themselves to look like that, so people actually stay away from the information that is associated with all that emotion.
A passing joke or a few well chosen words can go a heck of a lot longer than standing on a street corner chanting like a moron with placard in hand. [I agree, but like I say you misunderstood my point about "jokes", maybe this was my bad wording]

I found myself agreeing with you about the Zeitgeist bit and that people may google it, but how will they take the film based on Robbie's recommendation? Hmmm yeah it's a bit interesting this. An interesting "theory". Now when's X Factor on.....

[adzboarder]

and then you would get 'suicided' as you go to sleep and never wake up to see the pills scattered around you with a prescription nearby explaining how you were addicted to sleeping pills, anti-depressants and pain-killers. :)

Some of that pre-conditioning ^ has been done already.

[orderoutofchaos]

quality Robbie, well done son.

[orderoutofchaos]

Robbie was testing the water with this, kind of understand why he presented the info as he did.....
Didn't like the way he tried to justify it all though, using words like nutter etc...
Should have just said yeah..Im interested in all of it...
its very compelling and I have many questions....
Have some balls Rob if you are reading this, I know you come on the forum....
Must try harder Rob...Blow this shit wide open dude.
Maybe a 9/11 Inside Job T Shirt next time you play at Knebworth in front of thousands......
The time is now....
These scumbags aren't worth protecting-Dont be scared.......


He is testing the water. There is no other way he could have did it. At least he is mentioning it, unlike 99.9% of other celebrities

[bendelapidate]

100% agree.


Yeah because there's no connection in real life is there? Do you ever read this forum? We've got out fair share of rubber stamped wackos.

And that's what people were referring to David Icke as in 1990, but see how things he discussed back then have come to pass.


To the wider group of people who are attacking him - if you want to keep 'conspiracy theory' as an exclusive club keep going the way you are. If you want a mass awakening brace yourself for more of this kind of thing.

Nobody is attacking him, they are attacking what he said. there is no agenda, there is no "movement", just a bunch of individuals expressing an opinion and choosing for themselves what to accept and what to reject. You raise the notion of a "conspiracy private club" yet that is exactly what it is becoming - and it was being promoted by a pop star in the same way as he might "dig" any other new mass consumer product.

A glib treatment of subject matter that is far from frivolous does it no favours. If anybody has any balls, they stand up for what they believe. If you think swine flu vaccine is bad, you say so, in no uncertain terms, you don't dick around with the subject in the same way as you might talk about the latest fashion bra.





Sorry you were so insulted by my assertion. Perhaps you should think about why that is?


I don't know. Maybe you have the hots for Robbie Williams. His Tintin-esque hairdo and cheeky smile are enough to give teenage girls wet pantys but it doesn't cut it with me. I prefer my men to be honest and courageous and his reference to various conspiracies pays lip service to their gravity.


Finally - the above is the most important part. Jealousy is being combined with classic "that's my band" syndrome. I used to love Suede then suddenly every kid in school loves Suede. Ruined it for me!

Conspiracy theories - if you believe in them - should not be dogged by the same logic. It's not a fashion statement.
100% agree.

[orderoutofchaos]

He has also mentioned David Icke in the SUN Newspaper saying" i am into the stuff he is into" and that they have spoken on occassions.

During our conversation I ask about his friendship with David Icke, the former TV broadcaster branded a crackpot for his eccentric theories about the future of the human race.

He said: "I am into all that stuff David Icke talks about. He never mentions the reptilian stuff. I speak to him every now and again. I'm incredibly interested in it, to be honest with you.

"I am really, really open-minded. So much so, my brain may have fallen out! I am not going to discount anything he says. Which might be, publicly and perception-wise, to the detriment of myself.

"If you look at it and you don't know much about it, it might come across as lunacy. And it might be. It might be just that."

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2676917/Robbie-Williams-I-might-not-have-got-through-X-Factor-Im-lucky-if-I-can-sing-in-key.html#ixzz0TlPbl4Sn


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2676917/Robbie-Williams-I-might-not-have-got-through-X-Factor-Im-lucky-if-I-can-sing-in-key.html

[iane78]

He has also mentioned David Icke in the SUN Newspaper saying" i am into the stuff he is into" and that they have spoken on occassions.

During our conversation I ask about his friendship with David Icke, the former TV broadcaster branded a crackpot for his eccentric theories about the future of the human race.

He said: "I am into all that stuff David Icke talks about. He never mentions the reptilian stuff. I speak to him every now and again. I'm incredibly interested in it, to be honest with you.

"I am really, really open-minded. So much so, my brain may have fallen out! I am not going to discount anything he says. Which might be, publicly and perception-wise, to the detriment of myself.

"If you look at it and you don't know much about it, it might come across as lunacy. And it might be. It might be just that."

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2676917/Robbie-Williams-I-might-not-have-got-through-X-Factor-Im-lucky-if-I-can-sing-in-key.html#ixzz0TlPbl4Sn


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2676917/Robbie-Williams-I-might-not-have-got-through-X-Factor-Im-lucky-if-I-can-sing-in-key.html

I didn't know he was Icke's buddie. To be honest, there have been times where I have questioned all this, and I continue to. Maybe it is all lunacy! Maybe WE ARE all infact lunatics!! I'm prepared to accept that reality, but I sincerley believe in what I believe, but that's probably because I'm nuts!!

My point is there are certain things you share with your mates/the world and things you keep to yourself. People don't need more ammunition to label you crazy! I really don't think he's helping. Still, it is important to be honest :)

[sithnemesis]

I didn't know he was Icke's buddie. To be honest, there have been times where I have questioned all this, and I continue to. Maybe it is all lunacy! Maybe WE ARE all infact lunatics!! I'm prepared to accept that reality, but I sincerley believe in what I believe, but that's probably because I'm nuts!!

My point is there are certain things you share with your mates/the world and things you keep to yourself. People don't need more ammunition to label you crazy! I really don't think he's helping. Still, it is important to be honest :)

I'm definitely nuts that's why I'm here...

I like being labelled as a crazy conspiracy theorist. It's great fun :)

[iane78]

I'm definitely nuts that's why I'm here...

I like being labelled as a crazy conspiracy theorist. It's great fun :)

Yeah, who wants to be normal anyway?! Over-rated. :D

[gwynned]

Sorry but I couldn't watch for more than 44 seconds. The guy is a creation of the illuminati paternalistic-pop-daddy industry and yet here he is, babbling on about conspiracy theories like it's the new iPhone or something.

I always believed that these people are tools of the elite. They are used to propagate memes and themes to the so-called "ignorant sheep". Why would it be that he is talking in these terms? Could it be that his attention to popular conspiracy theories makes people feel like somebody they idolise is actually on their side?

Nothing will change unless we become the change we desire.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!! As I have mentioned before on this forum, I met him at the Trout Lake ranch when ATS was there. Being older and American, I had no idea who he was. He was humble, helpful, funny and sincere. He talked at length about his paranormal experiences, etc. and I'm convinced he is a sincere seeker of the truth. I for one am thrilled that he can use his celebrity status to help shed some light for a larger audience.

[gwynned]

Well done Robbie....
Good start...
You should have come out with it and said though-9/11 was an inside job...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z-UlnpW7ks

Everytime I click on this, it says 'operation aborted' and my screen disappears. Is anyone else having difficulty or, better yet, have a different link?

Thanks.

[bendelapidate]

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!! As I have mentioned before on this forum, I met him at the Trout Lake ranch when ATS was there. Being older and American, I had no idea who he was. He was humble, helpful, funny and sincere. He talked at length about his paranormal experiences, etc. and I'm convinced he is a sincere seeker of the truth. I for one am thrilled that he can use his celebrity status to help shed some light for a larger audience.

I'm glad your experience of him was better than the experience of watching this video clip. I do wish his sincerity about subjects such as 9/11 and swine flu vaccination would lead the audience of this video clip to get a consistent message but it doesn't. It's ambiguous. If that sows the seeds in peoples' minds then all well and good. I hope it leads them to the conclusion that is right for them.

[grachtengordel]

If I was Robbie-I'd come out live on TV in front of millions.
On the X factor th eother night would have been good....

It amazes me that such foolish people here expect 'robbie' to further what they see as thier 'cause'. The very fact that 'robbie' is prepared to go on 'X FACTOR' is undisputable proof that he is working for THEM.

'x factor' is VERY sinister, it is NOT 'harmless family fun for drones' , it is indoctrination, corrupting and insideous. Mass mind control. 'x factor' does not educate, uplift or inform. it is not there to set you free, it is there to keep you in the box, dumbed down and buying thier products which will enforce the programming.

anyone who believes the 'susan boyle' episode was anything other than a mass hysteria experiment/operation are still more programmed than they realise.

we are ALL riddled with neurosis and manias, we ALL have our hang ups and states of mental 'dis-ease'. the media, movies, TV install myriad nefarious 'programs' which disrupt and misdirect the natural development and prosperity of our spirits. 'robbie' is there to enforce these negative programs and assist in implanting new ones.

'robbie' is a servant of the mind control machine, he is a puppet and proves this (and his 'rank' in the hierarchy) by serving simon cowell (who claims he is not a homosexual) on the x factor show. how do you think cowell (who claims he is not a homosexual) gets international puppets like 'bayonce' or 'shitney spears' on his shows? because they all 'work' for the same bosses. hey are promoting the same luciferian agenda.

If that many of you trust 'robbie williams' when he is appearing on blatant 'them' shows like 'x factor', then there is not much hope, they have got us totally managed and neutralised

[grachtengordel]

Oh please, how many people get the opportunity to address this many people and say exactly what they think?. If Robbie Williams were to do that then you would watch the painful death of his career, and never see him on TV again. How many mainstream sources would put David Icke on national TV?

what you seem to miss is that David Icke has INTEGRITY. He does his work well, without gimmicks and cheap promotional tricks. David Icke has been doing this work for over 15 years, releasing books, dvd, doing talks, he works hard at finding the info, interpreting it and getting it out there.

'robbie' on the other hand promotes his ego, his 'career' which is to be 'the star' , the 'entertainer'. his 'carrer' has been froning 'lowest common denominator' pop music, made to a recipe that is already popular, just with a 'robbie' on top. 'robbie's career has been posing for photos, miming to a backing track for a tacky pop video while anonamous and irrelevant models dance around in the background (what is that about? what is he trying to convince us of?). He has pathetically clung to smuggery and 'eyebrow raising' cuntishness thoughout his 'competition' with gary barlow, "swing when you are winning" is a great example. "winning"? win what exactly? competetive insane egotist nonsense. that album wasn't even released in US cos it was so poor, plastic and play-acting

David Icke has done REAL valuable work, promoting truth to set us free for over 15 years , 'robbie' has just promoted himself to keep us enslaved and buy his vapid manufactured pop music. just because he says he's seen zietgiest or repeats the tired and already neutralised slogans like "911 was an inside job", does not mean he is on a par with David Icke as the deluded comment that i quoted seems to imply

If 'robbie' had ANY integrity, he would abandon his 'career' making pop music, he has more than enough cash to get by without his 'career',he should campaign FULL TIME to get the truth out for like a year or two, then he should go live in the mountains with a guitar, actually LEARN to play, write, compose, arrange music that HE likes, which may or may not be popular but would have INTEGRITY

[largejack]

Everyone has their own individual experience, and there is no wrong or right way to deal with this knowledge, like going up into the mountains and learning to play the guitar properly. That might not be his experience?

Yes, Robbie did cover his back slightly by kind of turning it into an interest rather than something deadly serious that is about to affect us all, but that is still how most people tend to view this whole agenda. I think however he was trying to wink and say "check this out for yourselves folks!"

ANyway he'll reach out to more people in the showbiz world than alone on a mountain.

What also amazes me is the frequency the term Illuminati is now used, when I first started researching this stuff I thought I would never hear that word mentioned anywhere?

[grachtengordel]

Of course he is up himself he has a gifted lifestyle,

he worked for all his cash. it was hardly "gifted" to him. 'robbie' had to dance in a lot of homosexual clubs for years before he got famous as 'the naive one' in male stripper troupe 'take that'. The man has probably has to swallow gallons of 'genital mucus' to get this far, oh no, it wasnt a "gift" , he has WORKED for it, believe me.

there are people in awe of him.

idiotic people will be "in awe" of whatever the media tells them to be "in awe" of

He is hardly going to start calling the Queen a shape shifting lizard that eats babies now is he? Or tell the people that the Media is a bunch of controlled puppets and liars, Or the British and American governments have been funding terrorism against their own people, and still expect the interview to make it to the internet never mind the TV.

so he is a puppet

the harder you try the worse you look, why would anyone listen to someone point of view when they are confused, paranoid, angry and afraid.

thats quite a projection. why do you think the superhuman 'robbie' would be 'confused, paranoid, angry and afraid'?

the harder you try the worse you look

yes black truly IS white

A passing joke or a few well chosen words can go a heck of a lot longer than standing on a street corner chanting like a moron with placard in hand.

lot of projecting going on

[91181]

Riobbie had the chance the other nite LIVE on tv and all he did was promote his new album..


He looked totally off his tits too if you ask me , his eyes looked completly different ,very wierd ..

[grachtengordel]

Do you ever read this forum? We've got out fair share of rubber stamped wackos.

"rubber stamped"? by who, the ministry of sanity? sir you are RIDDLED with 'buzzwords' and 'catchphrases'

classic "that's my band" syndrome. I used to love Suede then suddenly every kid in school loves Suede. Ruined it for me!

http://jimfairthorne.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/nelson-muntz.jpg

suede? pseud more like. they were such whingeing, insipid posers

[gaias child]

I don't blame Robbie for the way he did it. If you look at the front pages of papers this morning they are already implying his mental health state isn't right.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219929/X-Factor-Wild-eyed-Robbie-Williams-thought-Pop-Eyed-ol.html

This is what tptb do, they did it to John Lennon and Michael Jackson for speaking out against the system.

[hoffy]

I don't blame Robbie for the way he did it. If you look at the front pages of papers this morning they are already implying his mental health state isn't right.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219929/X-Factor-Wild-eyed-Robbie-Williams-thought-Pop-Eyed-ol.html

This is what tptb do, they did it to John Lennon and Michael Jackson for speaking out against the system.

and he hasn't even spoken out yet. They are premepting his speak out. Stitch.

[flamesong]

The screen capture quality of that vide is pretty dreadful!

I located the original and embedded it here:

Robbie Williams Interview (http://www.okulonews.com/themedia/music/408-video-interview-with-robbie-williams)

[pureheart]

grachtengordel you really sicken me with all your jealousy and venom. I'm not even going to quote you as what you said makes me feel ill. :(

Clearly you have a MAJOR issue with Robbie's success which leads me to suspect that you are probably a failed musician. I think you have a lot of issues to deal with and you should keep your homophobia to yourself.

As has been said before, if Robbie had started telling people what to do he would have been labelled a lunatic. I imagine that he used the words 'conspiracy theory' and 'nutjob' as a pre-emptive move in the same way that overweight women might make fat jokes. He knows how the media works, and he knows how to spin it to get the message across. If people are at the right stage to wake up, then what he said may or may not be the trigger.

We all know that if he goes too far he is quite likely to end up the same way as John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain etc etc etc.

[branjo]

grachtengordel you really sicken me with all your jealousy and venom. I'm not even going to quote you as what you said makes me feel ill. :(

Clearly you have a MAJOR issue with Robbie's success which leads me to suspect that you are probably a failed musician. I think you have a lot of issues to deal with and you should keep your homophobia to yourself.

As has been said before, if Robbie had started telling people what to do he would have been labelled a lunatic. I imagine that he used the words 'conspiracy theory' and 'nutjob' as a pre-emptive move in the same way that overweight women might make fat jokes. He knows how the media works, and he knows how to spin it to get the message across. If people are at the right stage to wake up, then what he said may or may not be the trigger.

We all know that if he goes too far he is quite likely to end up the same way as John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain etc etc etc.

Ditto that, or should I say "Take That"...:D lol.

Yeah the second grachtengordel comes out with a post with the slightest bit of common sense in it, I'll reply. Not holding my breath though.

Seems to me some people just want other people to change the world for them so they don't have any responsibility for themselves. Like if the world goes to shit, it's Robbie Williams fault or something.

"We're all on FEMA trains shackled like sheep, Oh Robbie why did't you say something when you had the chance, this is all your fault Whhaaaaaaaa! whaaaaaaaaa!", Please.

The guy had a very clear choice, to say something, or say nothing.

[mrerisian]

And that's what people were referring to David Icke as in 1990, but see how things he discussed back then have come to pass.

I dunno how much you know about David Icke but his style has changed quite considerably since the heady days of Wogan. He's not always been the slick performer you see today. Sorry to burst that bubble for ya!

Robbie Williams is unlikely to make the sort of journey/predictions that Icke has. He's just not cut out like that. He'd be ridiculed and then forgotten about.


If anybody has any balls, they stand up for what they believe.
But he's not your puppet. He should do as he wills. That should be the whole of the law. Just because he's strayed into your territory doesn't mean you suddenly get to tell him what to do and say.

Your answer to my question doesn't make any sense - I suspect that reveals something about you.

I don't know. Maybe you have the hots for Robbie Williams.

The following post backs up what I thought after hearing a couple of interviews with Robbie on ATS & then later on Radio 4:
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!! As I have mentioned before on this forum, I met him at the Trout Lake ranch when ATS was there. [...] I'm convinced he is a sincere seeker of the truth. I for one am thrilled that he can use his celebrity status to help shed some light for a larger audience.

So, the above post is based on FIRSTHAND EVIDENCE and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT.

WTF is this post based on?

The very fact that 'robbie' is prepared to go on 'X FACTOR' is undisputable proof that he is working for THEM.

'x factor' is VERY sinister, it is NOT 'harmless family fun for drones' , it is indoctrination, corrupting and insideous. Mass mind control. 'x factor' does not educate, uplift or inform. it is not there to set you free, it is there to keep you in the box, dumbed down and buying thier products which will enforce the programming.

anyone who believes the 'susan boyle' episode was anything other than a mass hysteria experiment/operation are still more programmed than they realise.


Where's your evidence for those claims? Why do you think that? Notice how the last guy cited reasons for his thinking? Just saying it's sinister doesn't quite cut it. Reasons why!

Now, for the next part I reserve the right to speak for myself - this is the same for everyone else on here. You can only do the same. I'm therefore going to change words like US and WE to ME and I and I'M etc. Seems fair? Alterations marked in red.


I AM riddled with neurosis and manias, I have MY hang ups and states of mental 'dis-ease'. the media, movies, TV install myriad nefarious 'programs' which disrupt and misdirect the natural development and prosperity of MY spirits. 'robbie' is there to enforce these negative programs and assist in implanting new ones.

[...]

If that many of you trust 'robbie williams' when he is appearing on blatant 'them' shows like 'x factor', then there is not much hope, they have got ME totally managed and neutralised

Makes for interesting reading when you put it like that. Remember all I'm doing is factually correcting the words. You can't speak for others but you have every right to speak for yourself. Since you went for words like 'we' and 'us' you clearly include yourself in your words, hence the corrections.

My answer would be that you should stop forcing your own problems onto everyone else. Might make you happier.:)

[grachtengordel]

We all know that if he goes too far he is quite likely to end up the same way as John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Kurt Cobain etc etc etc.

Cobain was MK ultra controlled and is widely known to have been raped as a young man and worked as a homosexual prostitute before david geffen bought his soul.

lennon was a mi5 agent, a crowley follower and a is rumoured to be crypto-scouse

michael jackson was abused and mind controlled

so yes 'robbie' will definately be going the same way whatever he says, they will just wait for the most profitable time to 'off' him. if they can discredit the 'conspiracy nutjobs' at the same time then they are laughing

I imagine that he used the words 'conspiracy theory' and 'nutjob' as a pre-emptive move in the same way that overweight women might make fat jokes. He knows how the media works, and he knows how to spin it to get the message across

sounds like you really KNOW him. whats it like in there? inside 'robbies' head i mean

[grachtengordel]

Makes for interesting reading when you put it like that.

do you expect anyone to believe that you are entirely without ANY neurosis, manias, hang ups, paranoia, delusions, 'ocd' ?

out of everyone in the whole world, only YOU have zero mental 'dis-ease' and are totally 100% perfect, at all times, forever

well that seems likely.

[mrerisian]

out of everyone in the whole world, only YOU have zero mental 'dis-ease' and are totally 100% perfect, at all times, forever

well that seems likely.

Well thankyou. I think you've misunderstood the point of my post but there we are...

Cobain was MK ultra controlled and is widely known to have been raped as a young man and worked as a homosexual prostitute before david geffen bought his soul.

lennon was a mi5 agent, a crowley follower and a is rumoured to be crypto-scouse

michael jackson was abused and mind controlled

Any evidence for this kind of thing? I remember looking into the Kurt stuff and encountering obvious made up nonsense... as for Lennon's murder, possibly something to it.

[grachtengordel]

Any evidence for this kind of thing? I remember looking into the Kurt cobain stuff and encountering obvious made up nonsense... as for Lennon's murder, possibly something to it.

check The EXCELLENT 'cobain' thread in the 'cover-ups' sub forum

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=300350&postcount=70

Read HunkaHunka and Soulja's informative and well researched posts

[mrerisian]

Thanks for the link but as I flicked through it I began to recognise the usual 'some bloke I met told me' stuff. I've looked into the major stuff on that Justice for Kurt site etc. Nick Broomfield's film makes a good case for more investigation but I can't see why people think the intelligence services were involved.

The faked suicide note with totally different handwriting is also quite compelling.

As is the gun he couldn't have used to shoot himself with given that it was too big.

Just don't see any evidence for CIA mind control etc.

[bendelapidate]

I dunno how much you know about David Icke but his style has changed quite considerably since the heady days of Wogan. He's not always been the slick performer you see today. Sorry to burst that bubble for ya!

I met Icke for the first time in 1994 and there were about 20 people in the audience. His style didn't bother me, it was the content that mattered. As he reached a wider audience and got more practice, his presentation improved. It helps get the message across that he's able to speak for 7 or more hours and that's how dedicated he is to putting it across.


Robbie Williams is unlikely to make the sort of journey/predictions that Icke has. He's just not cut out like that. He'd be ridiculed and then forgotten about.

True. A serious player in the truth game must be prepared to stand up to ridicule and sacrifice some comfort. That's one of the things I admire the most about Icke. He was dismissed from the BBC because they didn't want to be associated with "a nutter" as the popular press were referring to him as. He stood up for his beliefs and was prepared to accept the negative consequences of airing them in public.



But he's not your puppet. He should do as he wills. That should be the whole of the law. Just because he's strayed into your territory doesn't mean you suddenly get to tell him what to do and say.

Your answer to my question doesn't make any sense - I suspect that reveals something about you.

Which question was that?


The following post backs up what I thought after hearing a couple of interviews with Robbie on ATS & then later on Radio 4:


So, the above post is based on FIRSTHAND EVIDENCE and PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THE SUBJECT.

WTF is this post based on?


It's based on what I saw in a video clip, which albeit limited is the only avenue through which I've experienced said icon.


Where's your evidence for those claims? Why do you think that? Notice how the last guy cited reasons for his thinking? Just saying it's sinister doesn't quite cut it. Reasons why!

What, the claims about his coke habit, the binge drinking etc.?


Now, for the next part I reserve the right to speak for myself - this is the same for everyone else on here. You can only do the same. I'm therefore going to change words like US and WE to ME and I and I'M etc. Seems fair? Alterations marked in red.





Makes for interesting reading when you put it like that. Remember all I'm doing is factually correcting the words. You can't speak for others but you have every right to speak for yourself. Since you went for words like 'we' and 'us' you clearly include yourself in your words, hence the corrections.

My answer would be that you should stop forcing your own problems onto everyone else. Might make you happier.:)

It might do, but then again, it might not. My only problem is that the world I live in is rapidly changing from somewhere that I used to find fairly tolerable to a landscape that's dominated by appearances, hiding the truth and a depressing lack of awareness in the people I meet on a daily basis. But then, that's just my experience of it.

I don't wish to change the world so I do anything in my power to improve my experience of it. It might be true that if you change yourself then the world changes with you, but that's only true to the extent that you can isolate yourself from the things you find most unpleasant. I started by throwing away my TV, taking "the news" with a pinch of salt and doing what makes me happy.

[mrerisian]

I met Icke for the first time in 1994 and there were about 20 people in the audience. His style didn't bother me, it was the content that mattered.
His content has changed quite considerably over the years though, don't you agree?


He was dismissed from the BBC because they didn't want to be associated with "a nutter" as the popular press were referring to him as. I think your chronology is out a bit. He left the BBC first, then had his awakening didn't he?

You seem to get a bit confused by the rest of my post, not all of which is directed at you...

What, the claims about his coke habit, the binge drinking etc.?
No, the claims being made by gretchegotel. I'm quoting him saying that Robbie Williams and the X Factor are part of a 'mass hysteria experiment/operation'. There's no evidence for that claim.

[bendelapidate]

His content has changed quite considerably over the years though, don't you agree?

Definitely. It went from tame "new agey" stuff in "The Truth Vibrations" to much more hardcore with "The Robots Rebellion". It was me that pointed out to him that the publisher he originally used for "The Truth Vibrations" was Thorsons, an imprint of "News International". I think that might have had something to do with the content being tame by comparison to his self-published stuff.


I think your chronology is out a bit. He left the BBC first, then had his awakening didn't he?

The impression I got from his autobiography was that he still did contract work for the BBC at the time of his awakening.


You seem to get a bit confused by the rest of my post, not all of which is directed at you...
No, the claims being made by gretchegotel. I'm quoting him saying that Robbie Williams and the X Factor are part of a 'mass hysteria experiment/operation'. There's no evidence for that claim.

Sorry, I didn't have my reading glasses on at the time.

[mrerisian]

Definitely. It went from tame "new agey" stuff in "The Truth Vibrations" to much more hardcore with "The Robots Rebellion".

I wonder how people on here would react to oldskool Icke were he to come round now?

[bendelapidate]

I wonder how people on here would react to oldskool Icke were he to come round now?

That was your 666th post. :D

I'm not sure but I suspect the difference he's made to peoples' general awareness would mean far less jeering than back then. That's what I hope anyway.

[bulletproofheart]

I agree with grachtengordel.Here we have a self absorbed chav that got lucky.

The constant "poor me" stress of being worth millions and the stress of fame etc...then give it up go and work in Mcdonalds.I suspect most of his stuff is written soley by Guy Chambers and others with little input from him.

Every interview or documentary about him has people saying they think he is in the closet has he come out...no?

He was toe curlingly naff in take that squeezing his paunch into Lycra,now its just considered a different kind of shite.He took every chance to try and destroy Gary Barlow and make him a laughing stock.Treated Andrea Corr like a used dish rag.

His new song,"jesus really died for me" "jesus really tried for me,then later in the song "jesus didnt die for you".Perhaps he did write it after all.

If he had not have been discovered he would be father to a dozen kids with asbos and a wife named Debbie.

[pureheart]

It's based on what I saw in a video clip, which albeit limited is the only avenue through which I've experienced said icon.

What, the claims about his coke habit, the binge drinking etc.?

My only problem is that the world I live in is rapidly changing from somewhere that I used to find fairly tolerable to a landscape that's dominated by appearances, hiding the truth and a depressing lack of awareness in the people I meet on a daily basis. But then, that's just my experience of it.



So you are judging someone on the strength of one video clip, when you know nothing about them? How would you come across if somebody made a soundbyte of you having a random conversation? We are not all polished public speakers with autocues on the inside of our eyelids.

[pureheart]

I agree with grachtengordel.Here we have a self absorbed chav that got lucky.

The constant "poor me" stress of being worth millions and the stress of fame etc...then give it up go and work in Mcdonalds.I suspect most of his stuff is written soley by Guy Chambers and others with little input from him.

Every interview or documentary about him has people saying they think he is in the closet has he come out...no?

He was toe curlingly naff in take that squeezing his paunch into Lycra,now its just considered a different kind of shite.He took every chance to try and destroy Gary Barlow and make him a laughing stock.Treated Andrea Corr like a used dish rag.

His new song,"jesus really died for me" "jesus really tried for me,then later in the song "jesus didnt die for you".Perhaps he did write it after all.

If he had not have been discovered he would be father to a dozen kids with asbos and a wife named Debbie.

That's very snidey. Who are you to judge him? He has a stunning girlfriend actually - she's in his video. He also has a lot of sex appeal (good sense of humour, nice body, loves women) so even if he wasn't famous he'd probably still have a gorgeous wife. He's also quite moral, having been brought up by a strict catholic mother, so on what grounds can you claim that his children would have ASBOs?

I think some men just don't like him because he gets to kiss women like Kylie, Daryl Hannah and Nicole Kidman and it makes them feel inadequate. There seem to be a lot of guys on this forum that feel very threatened by homosexuality. I wonder why that is? :confused:

[element]

That's very snidey. Who are you to judge him? He has a stunning girlfriend actually - she's in his video. He also has a lot of sex appeal (good sense of humour, nice body, loves women) so even if he wasn't famous he'd probably still have a gorgeous wife. He's also quite moral, having been brought up by a strict catholic mother, so on what grounds can you claim that his children would have ASBOs?

I think some men just don't like him because he gets to kiss women like Kylie, Daryl Hannah and Nicole Kidman and it makes them feel inadequate. There seem to be a lot of guys on this forum that feel very threatened by homosexuality. I wonder why that is? :confused:

They are secretly homosexuals.. Or so goes the popular belief..:D

He wasn't all too serious, but made some good points. He doesn't have to be all serious and showing a zombie face, although I'm sure some people here are attracted to that and see a serious-face as genuine only. Not everyone is as depressed as the critics here. Robbie does it differently, which could work to many.

I think he makes people curious with this. ;)

[mrerisian]

He wasn't all too serious, but made some good points. He doesn't have to be all serious and showing a zombie face, although I'm sure some people here are attracted to that

Agree with the above. Go to the news section and watch all the WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE threads that pop up from day to day. It's like these people haven't even read Icke.

Imagine if he'd gone on the live X Factor and started screaming about their plan to kill off 80% of the world's population. He's getting slated enough as it is and all they could say was he had staring eyes. Haha! The irony of that has just struck me - The Daily Mail criticising him for daring to have his eyes wide open!! Funny.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1219929/X-Factor-Wild-eyed-Robbie-Williams-thought-Pop-Eyed-ol.html

[pureheart]

__________________
Have become bored of the homophobia, Antisemitism (no not anti-Zionism, I know the difference,) racism and overall boring group think which infects conspiracy theorists. Sorry if my tone is over emotional.

Yes Mrerisian - me too. ;)

[bulletproofheart]

That's very snidey. Who are you to judge him? He has a stunning girlfriend actually - she's in his video. He also has a lot of sex appeal (good sense of humour, nice body, loves women) so even if he wasn't famous he'd probably still have a gorgeous wife. He's also quite moral, having been brought up by a strict catholic mother, so on what grounds can you claim that his children would have ASBOs?

I think some men just don't like him because he gets to kiss women like Kylie, Daryl Hannah and Nicole Kidman and it makes them feel inadequate. There seem to be a lot of guys on this forum that feel very threatened by homosexuality. I wonder why that is? :confused:

I am gay!,so thats your theory down the pan my love..

[edelweiss pirate]

I am gay!,so thats your theory down the pan my love..

Classic pwnage....

PC drones...'you must hate gays then' blahblahblah.

[bendelapidate]

So you are judging someone on the strength of one video clip, when you know nothing about them? How would you come across if somebody made a soundbyte of you having a random conversation? We are not all polished public speakers with autocues on the inside of our eyelids.

No, I'm saying that what he said in that interview sounded crass. If you are serious about something you wouldn't toy with the ideas in a way that makes them sound like they could be the realm of madmen. One minute of listening to that was quite enough for me to know that he can't be serious, else he would have repeated it though other sources and it would be on the front page of all the major newspapers.

[mrerisian]

No, I'm saying that what he said in that interview sounded crass. If you are serious about something you wouldn't toy with the ideas in a way that makes them sound like they could be the realm of madmen.

You've obviously never read any Robert Anton Wilson.


One minute of listening to that was quite enough for me to know that he can't be serious, else he would have repeated it though other sources and it would be on the front page of all the major newspapers.

For a day.

Then when they'd stopped laughing at him he'd be finished.

Pretty stupid strategy if you ask me.

[bendelapidate]

You've obviously never read any Robert Anton Wilson.


You're right, I've not read any of his stuff but he looks like an interesting character. Any particular work that you would recommend?


For a day.

Then when they'd stopped laughing at him he'd be finished.

Pretty stupid strategy if you ask me.

True, but it depends on whether your convictions are strong enough to overcome public ridicule and just move on. For somebody whose wealth and security are pretty much assured for life, I would say it's a case of shedding the attention of those who are only interested in you in a superficial way.

[pureheart]

I am gay!,so thats your theory down the pan my love..

I thought even gay men were in love with Kylie ;)

[nicholaq]

Ive never been a Robbie Williams fan, but I think well done Robbie!!
The majority of the entertainers these days are cowards and wouldnt have opened there mouth.;)

[moon monkey]

He's got some balls saying what he did that's for sure. What is stranger still is that the mass media hasn't slaughtered him for it yet !

RESPECT.

[bulletproofheart]

I thought even gay men were in love with Kylie ;)


Oh yes that goes without saying.When her duet with robbie plays on her greatest hits cd I just skip it.

And I just got her Mens fragrance for my birthday.

[mrerisian]

You're right, I've not read any of his stuff but he looks like an interesting character. Any particular work that you would recommend?


Yep. Cosmic Trigger is a good start. Easy to read and lots of fun.

PM me if you actually do get round to reading it - I'd be interested in your thoughts.

Hail Eris!

[655321]

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kLShuFfXxUY/0.jpg

[mrerisian]

I blame Grant Morrison.

[hells hero]

Nothing will change unless we become the change we desire.

Didn't Cameron or Brown say that the other week...probably both!

[onourwayto2012]

Ive never been a Robbie Williams fan, but I think well done Robbie!!
The majority of the entertainers these days are cowards and wouldnt have opened there mouth.;)
well it seems they're just going with the crazy Robbie stuff now so that would fit right in