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sithnemesis

11-10-2009, 10:24 AM

May he rest in peace and his soul be set free.
Let's 'hope' that he was not forcibly 'suicided'.
Is that the price some of the 'cele-brit-ies' have to pay.
This adds up to the list of celebrities dying in their sleep...

He was 33... (Jesus's age - ritual - or may be I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist)

It's probably a heartless thing to say but marketing-wise, boyzone will be making a much more recognised and lucrative come-back... fans will be worshipfully attending the concerts... more like a pilgrimage. This will feature on the UK X-factor show and the ratings will be quite ridiculously high.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/18/article-1183749-04F89807000005DC-719_468x617.jpg
That's him in make-up, playing dead in a 'horror-flick' 2008.

http://alexwakeford.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/sg1.jpg

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/reviews/dcurseb.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html)

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/feb2007/7/0/CA9748FE-C256-F0DC-605638DF45CB0F44.jpg skull and bones

mrerisian

11-10-2009, 10:31 AM

A victim of gay sex games gone wrong.

Been looking all round the net. Can't find any evidence of this. You weren't just lying were you? That's genuinely sick. As the previous posters point out. He's JUST died a few hours ago! I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt before I condemn you but in the event that you're getting your kicks out of making shit up about some bloke who never did you any harm I suggest you have a bit of a think. Pretty horrible way to stoke the boner on a Sunday morning.

boy better know

11-10-2009, 11:00 AM

A mother's son.

Have some damned respect.

I had no respect for him. he never had any talent.

Really? I've not noticed that in any of the MSM coverage. Where's your source? How unfortunate for the poor guy. That'll be a real smear on his reputation. To think, some people will use that to mock him when his body isn't even cold. The tabloids will have a field day.

Why would it be a smear on his reputation? Are you suggesting that there is something wrong with gay people enjoying edgy sex games in the same way that some straight people do?

As yet there is no information on what killed him. At this point gay sex games gone wrong is as good a guess as any.

91181

11-10-2009, 11:02 AM

May he rest in peace and his soul be set free.
Let's 'hope' that he was not forcibly 'suicided'.
Is that the price some of the 'cele-brit-ies' have to pay.
This adds up to the list of celebrities dying in their sleep...

He was 33... (Jesus's age - ritual - or may be I'm just a crazy conspiracy theorist)

It's probably a heartless thing to say but marketing-wise, boyzone will be making a much more recognised and lucrative come-back... fans will be worshipfully attending the concerts... more like a pilgrimage. This will feature on the UK X-factor show and the ratings will be quite ridiculously high.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/05/18/article-1183749-04F89807000005DC-719_468x617.jpg
That's him in make-up, playing dead in a 'horror-flick' 2008.

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/reviews/dcurseb.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html)

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/feb2007/7/0/CA9748FE-C256-F0DC-605638DF45CB0F44.jpg skull and bones

Intresting info ,thanks for sharing..

bones

11-10-2009, 11:11 AM

i thought the group was ok not my cup of tea but special to many young teens yrs ago.

i hope nothing sinister is involved but as we all know nothing reported in the msm can be gospel.

my first impressions thinks drugs!! i have no proof of it so call it intuition.
could be a sacrafice being 33 and all?

time may tell..

anyways RIP .

mrerisian

11-10-2009, 11:25 AM

As yet there is no information on what killed him.

So you did just make it up. Expected more, don't know why. Hey ho.

boy better know

11-10-2009, 11:36 AM

So you did just make it up. Expected more, don't know why. Hey ho.

The way that I wrote that post should have told you that I was just stating a theory.

And you still haven't explained why it would be a smear on his repuation. Everyone can suffer from accidents, even when involved in sex games, gay or straight.

Are you some kind of gay hater?

keystone

11-10-2009, 11:38 AM

The way that I wrote that post should have told you that I was just stating a theory.Theorys need some sort of evidence to back them up. You were speculating or making a WAG - whatever please don't pretend its a "theory".

Cheers

marpat

11-10-2009, 11:43 AM

Quite shocked by this, so young 33 is such a key age number. No details as to what's happened.

One of his bigger hits[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOuapehgNU8&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOuapehgNU8&feature=related

Why is it a key number?

cafetimes1991

11-10-2009, 11:49 AM

May he rest in peace.

francis

11-10-2009, 11:54 AM

Been looking all round the net. Can't find any evidence of this. You weren't just lying were you? That's genuinely sick. As the previous posters point out. He's JUST died a few hours ago! I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt before I condemn you but in the event that you're getting your kicks out of making shit up about some bloke who never did you any harm I suggest you have a bit of a think. Pretty horrible way to stoke the boner on a Sunday morning.

He did plenty of people harm. Have you not heard their songs?

boy better know

11-10-2009, 11:59 AM

Theorys need some sort of evidence to back them up. You were speculating or making a WAG - whatever please don't pretend its a "theory".

Cheers

The evidence is that he died "suddenly" while on an apparently booze filled bender holiday in spain.

candygirl

11-10-2009, 12:03 PM

The guy went into the music industry machine and they spat him out like many before him his death is going to make them £££££&$$$$$ they really couldn't give a shit. Such a high price to pay to be famous.
R.I.P.
And lest we forget all victims of Big Pharma, the war machine and the celeb machine all very sad.

keystone

11-10-2009, 12:04 PM

The evidence is that he died "suddenly" while on an apparently booze filled bender holiday in spain.And just precisely please how many other 33 year old died suddenly on a worldwide basis yesterday. Do you know? Do you have a theory? A lot of noise and fluff is being generated because he's a "celebrity". You don't (nor do Sky News apparently) have anything else to talk about this morning and you are in the process of trying to justify what was IMO a very hasty ill judged post in the first instance. Unfortunately your post has turned out not to be so clever as you first thought. Never mind. Thats my view and my opinion. I'm not going to debate it.

Cheers

steevo

11-10-2009, 12:16 PM

the white knight

11-10-2009, 12:20 PM

I can see a Christmas No1 on the horizen. There record company and them are going to make themselves even more millions.

infin8_possibility

11-10-2009, 12:25 PM

Have you ever wondered why the mainstream newspapers only "out" SOME of the gays in show business, but they leave others alone ? There are tons of gay celebrities but only certain ones (at particular times) get focussed on.

The mainstream newspapers blackmail famous people and celebrities (and especially polititians), with threats of "outing" them. Every famous person will have a file down at MI5.
The "managers" of pop bands prefer to employ people who have "skeletons" in their closets, and if they DONT have any "skeletons", then they have to use plan B. I am NOT saying that Gately was a victim of foul play, only his close friends and family will have any idea if that was the case, but the mainstream media dont tell the truth so WE shall probably never know.

Where have you got this theory from steevo? A specific source, hearsay or just personal opinion?

I don't necessarily disagree with what you have said, it seems more than plausible and I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed the case.

If I remember correctly, It was Stephen himself that "came out" in the media. For what reason, I don't know.

Maybe Stephen was blackmailing that hideous Irish knome Loius Walsh for being gay too. So Loius sent his gounes in and clipped him. ;)

illuminumnuts

11-10-2009, 12:26 PM

Why is it a key number?

Maybe some freakish, elitist, sheeple muppets think it is, which of course doesn't mean it is, but you get the picture i'm sure. :)

steevo

11-10-2009, 12:30 PM

Where have you got this theory from steevo? A specific source, hearsay or just personal opinion?

I don't necessarily disagree with what you have said, it seems more than plausible and I wouldn't be surprised if it was indeed the case.

If I remember correctly, It was Stephen himself that "came out" in the media. For what reason, I don't know.

Maybe Stephen was blackmailing that hideous Irish knome Loius Walsh for being gay too. So Loius sent his gounes in and clipped him. ;)

They are my opinions.

Yes I think that Gately may have "outed" huimself, but I dont know for sure. By outing yourself, that means it makes it harder for the PTB to blackmail you. I am not saying that Gately was being focussed on (or blackmailed by the mainstream newspapers), but they DO do that in my opinion. It's plain to see. The newspapers arent only there to make money, they serve a purpose.

illuminumnuts

11-10-2009, 12:37 PM

They are my opinions.

Yes I think that Gately may have "outed" huimself, but I dont know for sure. By outing yourself, that means it makes it harder for the PTB to blackmail you. I am not saying that Gately was being focussed on (or blackmailed by the mainstream newspapers), but they DO do that in my opinion. It's plain to see. The newspapers arent only there to make money, they serve a purpose.

From memory, not gospel, I think he was going to be outed and jumped the gun on them.

infin8_possibility

11-10-2009, 12:37 PM

They are my opinions.

Yes I think that Gately may have "outed" huimself, but I dont know for sure. By outing yourself, that means it makes it harder for the PTB to blackmail you. I am not saying that Gately was being focussed on (or blackmailed by the mainstream newspapers), but they DO do that in my opinion. It's plain to see. The newspapers arent only there to make money, they serve a purpose.

Simon Cowell must be paying the papers an insane amount of money then? Right?

boy better know

11-10-2009, 12:38 PM

And just precisely please how many other 33 year old died suddenly on a worldwide basis yesterday. Do you know? Do you have a theory? A lot of noise and fluff is being generated because he's a "celebrity". You don't (nor do Sky News apparently) have anything else to talk about this morning and you are in the process of trying to justify what was IMO a very hasty ill judged post in the first instance. Unfortunately your post has turned out not to be so clever as you first thought. Never mind. Thats my view and my opinion. I'm not going to debate it.

Cheers

Right. Well If it emerges that he did die in a gay sex game gone wrong you are now going to look bloody stupid for writing that.

steevo

11-10-2009, 12:38 PM

curtaincat

11-10-2009, 12:41 PM

I thought that all boybands are gay or bi. who cares?

On the news, it said he had a husband, so sending condolences to the husband, how sad for him :(

I have never watched a boyband in my life, unless you count the Osmond Brothers and the Jackson 5. but they are more of a brothers band, i guess.

havent even seen a girlband. Although, i sort of know about those Spicegirls but they are old-fashioned by now, i think.

infin8_possibility

11-10-2009, 12:43 PM

Actually infin8_posibility, have you seen that episode of Louis Theroux where he goes around with Max Clifford.
Max Clifford is clearly blackmailing Simon Cowell with threats of exposing his homosexuality alledgedly.

Mate, I was going to mention that, YES I have seen it.

Clifford may well be blackmailing Cowell, Clifford feeds the papers an obscene amount of stories about Cowells hetrosexual exploits with models (kiss and tells.) :confused::rolleyes:

Whatever the situation, Clifford is certainly gettin' some serious cash off Cowell.

candygirl

11-10-2009, 12:45 PM

Anybody involved with Cowell is in deep trouble.
A man not to be trusted.

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 12:46 PM

a young man of 33 who seemed a genuinely nice lad, who had a stint in a pop band, has died. He leaves behind a lover and his famly/friends who this will be a shock to. Making quips and being funny has its time and place, to think this thread is the time and the place reveals more about the poster than the newly deceased being the subject of the joke. (I just made my own pun there and corrected it :o)

he certainly came out on his own, and therefore the industry moguls lost their bargaining chip instantly....cant have gone down well. I would not be suprised if more evidence of the unsavoury/slanderous variety starts to come to light :rolleyes:

RIP

steevo

11-10-2009, 12:47 PM

Mate, I was going to mention that, YES I have seen it.

Clifford may well be blackmailing Cowell, Clifford feeds the papers an obscene amount of stories about Cowells hetrosexual exploits with models (kiss and tells.) :confused::rolleyes:

Whatever the situation, Clifford is certainly getin some serious cash of Cowell.

They control Cowells HUGE ego by using the "carrot and the stick" method.

steevo

11-10-2009, 12:49 PM

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 12:52 PM

THIS QUOTED POST HAS BEEN DELETED BY THE MODERATORS

oh show some compassion instead of vileness ffs :rolleyes:

give me Stephen anyday the week over someone who comes out with written shite like that

boy better know

11-10-2009, 12:55 PM

oh show some compassion instead of vileness ffs :rolleyes:

give me Stephen anyday the week over someone who comes out with written shite like that

Listen to yourself. You didn't know him. You never met him. You have no idea what kind of person he was.

gilly

11-10-2009, 12:58 PM

A mother's son.

Have some damned respect.

Well said!

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 12:58 PM

Listen to yourself. You didn't know him. You never met him. You have no idea what kind of person he was.

and neither did you

but regardless of knowing someone, I would respect them in their time of death...rather than take it as a cheap oppurtunity to have a bop at their expense.

maybe you should listen to yourself

boy better know

11-10-2009, 01:06 PM

and neither did you

but regardless of knowing someone, I would respect them in their time of death...rather than take it as a cheap oppurtunity to have a bop at their expense.

maybe you should listen to yourself

Don't you think it is more important to respect someone while they are still alive, rather than after they are dead?

He is dead and gone now. what you or I say about him now makes no difference to him. But it would have made a differnece when he was still alive.

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 01:10 PM

Don't you think it is more important to respect someone while they are still alive, rather than after they are dead?

He is dead and gone now. what you or I say about him now makes no difference to him. But it would have made a differnece when he was still alive.

Sudden deflection there, but however, I did respect him while he was alive, for coming out and not being outed out

What you say about someone dead does make difference...it concerns you and your own journey.

steevo

11-10-2009, 01:11 PM

Mate, I was going to mention that, YES I have seen it.

Clifford may well be blackmailing Cowell, Clifford feeds the papers an obscene amount of stories about Cowells hetrosexual exploits with models (kiss and tells.) :confused::rolleyes:

Whatever the situation, Clifford is certainly gettin' some serious cash off Cowell.

Ex-pop star Sinitta SUPPOSEDLY dated Cowell. She has since made a "comeback" as a Judge on a "reality" tv show.

Sinitta also apparently dated David Essex and Brad Pitt.

keystone

11-10-2009, 01:16 PM

Right. Well If it emerges that he did die in a gay sex game gone wrong you are now going to look bloody stupid for writing that.Whereas you will, no doubt, be preening yourself and crowing from the rooftops about "how you were right" which would be bollocks because all you did was post an ill-judged wild assed guess designed to make you look big in the first instance. If such represents the worth and extent of your research capabilities as a "trooffer" then you are a liability IMO. Your post was nothing less than a childish cheap shot.

Cheers

infin8_possibility

11-10-2009, 01:19 PM

Ex-pop star Sinitta SUPPOSEDLY dated Cowell. She has since made a "comeback" as a Judge on a "reality" tv show.

Sinitta also apparently dated David Essex and Brad Pitt.

Yeah, she was signed under his label right? Possibly she obliged to play the charade of dating him out of appreciation for sortin' her out with a record deal?

Dunno what you mean by making a comeback as a realty TV judge. :confused: Or maybe I need some sleep...

There's been loads of women he's been "linked" to. It seems it benefits both parties, Cowell gets the public perception of being a lady killer and the women get a fist full of cash.

boy better know

11-10-2009, 01:27 PM

Whereas you will, no doubt, be preening yourself and crowing from the rooftops about "how you were right" which would be bollocks because all you did was post an ill-judged wild assed guess designed to make you look big in the first instance. If such represents the worth and extent of your research capabilities as a "trooffer" then you are a liability IMO. Your post was nothing less than a childish cheap shot.

Cheers

A cheap shot at whom? Stephen Gately does not exist anymore, so it can't of been a cheap shot against him.

grachtengordel

11-10-2009, 01:34 PM

Yeah, she was signed under his label right? Possibly she obliged to play the charade of dating him out of appreciation for sortin' her out with a record deal?

There's been loads of women he's been "linked" to. It seems it benefits both parties, Cowell gets the public perception of being a lady killer and the women get a fist full of cash.

Someone who worked on reception at his record company office told me that simon cowell pays a PR man called Max clifford to arrange fake 'girlfriends' and orchestrate the photos of him with these paid actresses. apparently the reason cowell persists in this ridiculous charade is to please his mother

ethnic ink lover, wild as in free, crazy, northun bitch, loving each and every blessing, but would trade it all in for the truth..."Ahimsa" to you all xxx
http://www.ahimsacosmetics.co.uk

are you using your 'signiture' to advertise a commercial profit making business?

curtaincat

11-10-2009, 01:34 PM

Sudden deflection there, but however, I did respect him while he was alive, for coming out and not being outed out

What you say about someone dead does make difference...it concerns you and your own journey.

Last sentence, true :cool:

I had thought everyone here knew that... that is why i never say RiP, i say seeya later or have fun on your journey, or words to that effect.

Dead / Alive means nothing really...

although it is not good for anyone to be a smart arse about anyone.

nice post :)

sithnemesis

11-10-2009, 01:36 PM

oh show some compassion instead of vileness ffs
give me Stephen anyday the week over someone who comes out with written shite like that

I agree with the compassion bit wildhorse... shame... come on Gods Sun Stephen Gately is dead at 33. You don't have to keep murdering him in your consciousness just because you did not develop any gay behaviours... In layman's terms, that's very vibrationally bad credit-rating for your soul

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Iran
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Germany - Berlin Now
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Stephen Gately - Gay - a talented Human Being nonetheless
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truth finder

11-10-2009, 02:03 PM

What a tradgedy.....We actualy lost a good singer...R.I.P and thoughts to his family:(

redskywalker

11-10-2009, 02:16 PM

Well, the views held by a few on this forum have always left me cold, the shills and trolls irritate. These past few weeks in news behind the news have been disturbing, the truth cannot be said while threats can? Then we have the disrespectful, hurtful almost vengeful lack of compassion in here regarding this famous young mans sudden untimely death and I am left feeling sickened. I don't associate with low level brain in real life, but i'll be damned if I don't make the point, judging or not, hey i'm not an angel, the man is dead! His family and friends and less so his fans and associates are all grieving, but in they come, the poison dwarf rats who can't wait to spew venom everywhere! The Arseholes of humanity and all you energy vampires ...

SUCK THIS!

and choke you bastards!

infin8_possibility

11-10-2009, 02:22 PM

michael_mac

11-10-2009, 03:16 PM

What has Steven Gately got to do with this message board?

What is the conspiracy? What is the point?

meksar

11-10-2009, 03:17 PM

Ritual sacrifice and of course 33 is the highest initiate level of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 03:21 PM

Someone who worked on reception at his record company office told me that simon cowell pays a PR man called Max clifford to arrange fake 'girlfriends' and orchestrate the photos of him with these paid actresses. apparently the reason cowell persists in this ridiculous charade is to please his mother

are you using your 'signiture' to advertise a commercial profit making business?

no cos im not selling at mo...

but i have other info on there

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 03:23 PM

are you using your 'signiture' to advertise a commercial profit making business?

are you just trying to cause trouble?

enga

11-10-2009, 03:27 PM

Death is only the end of the 3d holographic body. Best to you Stephen wherever you are.

keystone

11-10-2009, 03:28 PM

A cheap shot at whom? Stephen Gately does not exist anymore, so it can't of been a cheap shot against him.You were just tying to show what a really, really big boy you are. You failed. I'm not the only one to take exception to this and it has nothing to do with the subject matter. Tough. Get over it or grow some balls and admit you were out of order.

Cheers

cpfc12

11-10-2009, 03:34 PM

Can't say i liked his music, well most pop and indie rock i hate, as i am a led zep/hendrix/cream/classic music/nwa fan
however i hope he transcends into his afterlife with ease
and r.i.p
try to leave out the disrespectful comments, he may have helped lower the worlds collective conciousness with the generic music but he still was a mother's son and probably a good guy too.

shipoffools

11-10-2009, 03:34 PM

I mourn the loss of a great, great talent.

Where will I find another boy band now?

sedate_solution

11-10-2009, 03:47 PM

I so fancied him, New Beginning; what a chooon !

wakeupworld

11-10-2009, 03:58 PM

d9d9d9

11-10-2009, 04:03 PM

Why is it when someone famous dies and it is rightly put in the today`s news section do we have so much ill feeling and contempt to the deceased individual here?
They are victims too of the illuminati and the mass media. They have been lied too and duped just like the rest of us.

I disagree. They are not victims, they are tools of the mass media and are essential in an attempt to keep you/us sedated.

marpat

11-10-2009, 04:10 PM

Ritual sacrifice and of course 33 is the highest initiate level of Scottish Rite Freemasonry.

So what ritual was he invovled in. Do you have some details. And what is the connection with scottish freemasonry. Plenty of stabs in the dark I believe

wakeupworld

11-10-2009, 04:19 PM

I disagree. They are not victims, they are tools of the mass media and are essential in an attempt to keep you/us sedated.

I respect your opinion and agree that they are tools. Yet even so to me they are victims because if they were not so brainwashed and used and really knew what was going on and their part in it then they would be awake but they are not they are asleep to all this.

vetis

11-10-2009, 04:37 PM

sithnemesis hate to burst your theory but Boyzone already have been touring in 2009, it wont create a comeback tour.

meksar

11-10-2009, 04:42 PM

So what ritual was he invovled in. Do you have some details. And what is the connection with scottish freemasonry. Plenty of stabs in the dark I believe

His death was a ritual sacrifice you O.T.O numbnut, have you noticed how many murders in recent times have been allegedly committed by people who are "coincidentally" 33 years old. With their DNA database and squad of satanic pedophile judges and law enforcement they can murder and have innocent people blamed for their crimes.

grachtengordel

11-10-2009, 04:56 PM

are you just trying to cause trouble?

i just object to being bombarded by advertising, a million 'banners' telling me "go to www." , there are adverts on public transport, radio, tv, on 'sportsmen' , some people even buy overpriced clothes..... with a big advert on the front of it , they even walk up to my door and stuff paper adverts in

i don't want to see another advert if i can help it and your 'signiture' links to a commercial site retailing products for personal profit, so i class that as an advert.

I think it is wrong and immoral to subject people to the maddening clamour of the 'marketplace' at every oppurtunity

sorry to go 'off topic' , we can start a separate thread about this if you like

wildhorse

11-10-2009, 05:08 PM

i just object to being bombarded by advertising, a million 'banners' telling me "go to www." , there are adverts on public transport, radio, tv, on 'sportsmen' , some people even buy overpriced clothes..... with a big advert on the front of it , they even walk up to my door and stuff paper adverts in

i don't want to see another advert if i can help it and your 'signiture' links to a commercial site retailing products for personal profit, so i class that as an advert.

I think it is wrong and immoral to subject people to the maddening clamour of the 'marketplace' at every oppurtunity

sorry to go 'off topic' , we can start a separate thread about this if you like

personal profit?????

proof of claim pls cos I would reeeeeallly like to see this profit you hark on about (which if you knew me you would see that profit is not my intention with Ahimsa, but getting ethical cosmetics at a lower cost IS)

oh you poor little lamb..if the sight of a web address that links THIS site and praises david icke, causes you soooo much distress...then may I suggest that you put me on ignore....cos I will be ignoring your lil tantrums from now on. Toodle pip.

on a more serious note...the late Stephen Gately passed 10th october (10th month) 2009

10 10 29 =11 11

theres that bloody number combo...along with his age 33... it looks suss I have to admit

Ian2day

11-10-2009, 05:14 PM

personal profit?????

proof of claim pls cos I would reeeeeallly like to see this profit you hark on about (which if you knew me you would see that profit is not my intention with Ahimsa, but getting ethical cosmetics at a lower cost IS)

oh you poor little lamb..if the sight of a web address that links THIS site and praises david icke, causes you soooo much distress...then may I suggest that you put me on ignore....cos I will be ignoring your lil tantrums from now on. Toodle pip.

on a more serious note...the late Stephen Gately passed 10th october (10th month) 2009

10 10 29 =11 11

theres that bloody number combo...along with his age 33... it looks suss I have to admit

Announced on the 11th as well. Killed by the same people that killed MJ and Carradine no doubt. These killers are the talentless ones. That use to wait for everyone to go to class so they could rifle in the coats and bags left in the cloakroom for loose change and furry toffees. Little do they know what I use to do to the toffees before leaving them in the cloakroom by mistake.

keystone

11-10-2009, 05:17 PM

meksar

11-10-2009, 05:24 PM

OK Meksar. How many 33 year olds died yesterday? On a worldwide basis. Take your time.

Cheers

I'm talking about stories in the mainstream media recently where people have been killed in the streets and even elderly women beaten to death in their homes allegedly by people aged 33 years old.

marpat

11-10-2009, 05:31 PM

His death was a ritual sacrifice you O.T.O numbnut, have you noticed how many murders in recent times have been allegedly committed by people who are "coincidentally" 33 years old. With their DNA database and squad of satanic pedophile judges and law enforcement they can murder and have innocent people blamed for their crimes.

So give us the details then. Was he actually murdered as well? not only are you assuming he was murderd but that it was part of a ritual. Back this up with something. There is a lot more to freemasonry than the 33 deg of scottish masonry, which is only one aspect.

I like it, you call me a numbnut but you have no proof, just crap guesswork. I can just imagine them stating he died of an overdose and you will be sitting in disbelief blaming the masons like some sad twat.

marpat

11-10-2009, 05:32 PM

I'm talking about stories in the mainstream media recently where people have been killed in the streets and even elderly women beaten to death in their homes allegedly by people aged 33 years old.

Maybe they should kill some 97 and 92 years olds as well according to the degrees or memphis and mizraim :rolleyes:

meksar

11-10-2009, 05:45 PM

So give us the details then. Was he actually murdered as well? not only are you assuming he was murderd but that it was part of a ritual. Back this up with something. There is a lot more to freemasonry than the 33 deg of scottish masonry, which is only one aspect.

I like it, you call me a numbnut but you have no proof, just crap guesswork. I can just imagine them stating he died of an overdose and you will be sitting in disbelief blaming the masons like some sad twat.

This coming from a cross dressing nutcase, if he died of a so called overdose like many other celebs then i am within my right to suspect foul play, remember Michael Jackson and Heath Ledger for example had lethal injections or med pills switched. They are slowly introducing people to their global religion without them realizing the evil intentions behind it.

Remember what Crowley said about every man being born as a star, well when you become a music or movie star they will do everything in their power to turn that star upside down. A upside down star is known as the reverse pentagram which is common in satanic rituals and gatherings, this is also symbolic for the Baphomet or otherwise known as the goathead.

lostworld

11-10-2009, 06:00 PM

It's eerie in retrospective: Stephen's character in Credo (released in the US as Devil's Curse) is found dead in bed with his throat slashed - and now Stephen himself was found dead in bed...
Pics from the movie here:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html

Here's the UK movie poster. One eye + pentagram:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5159/credoposterfeb2009.jpg

Stephen was also working on a book, and here we have the big number 3 again:
During the three years prior to his death, Gately had been writing a children's fantasy novel called The Tree of Seasons. In an April 2009 interview with the Press Association he declared that he was nearly finished, had publisher interest, and hoped for a Christmas 2009 release. (Wiki)

Gately's body was discovered on 10 October 2009 while on holiday in Majorca, Spain. The cause of death has yet to be determined, although it was reported that he had "gone out for drinks, returned to his accommodation and fallen asleep, but never woke up." (Wiki)

Sound like some lethal drug in the drinks... :(

Stephen Gately, 1976-2009 R.I.P
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6976/stephengately.jpg

conspicioastrum

11-10-2009, 06:13 PM

on a more serious note...the late Stephen Gately passed 10th october (10th month) 2009

10 10 29 =11 11

theres that bloody number combo...along with his age 33... it looks suss I have to admit

I'm not a fan of numerology but that is too much to be coincidence. I'm really starting to wonder now. How do the PTB benefit from doing this? It's very bizarre.

Ian2day

11-10-2009, 06:15 PM

I think its a load of bollox. A second false paradigm of news. Plenty of stars or their family members get reported dead before they are, reported as dieing again and again. The msm is full of shit. Until we see another band member talk about it in detail it is all bollox. A psy-op.

tb303

11-10-2009, 06:19 PM

Someone who worked on reception at his record company office told me that simon cowell pays a PR man called Max clifford to arrange fake 'girlfriends' and orchestrate the photos of him with these paid actresses. apparently the reason cowell persists in this ridiculous charade is to please his mother

This was detailed in 'When Louis Theroux met Max Clifford'. It's been deleted from Youtube, but you can watch it here if you install Veoh Web Player - I haven't, so don't know if there's a catch.

When Louis Theroux Met Max Clifford (http://www.veoh.com/collection/louistherouxseries/watch/v4152959qN8WWCS#)

ragman

11-10-2009, 06:51 PM

What has Steven Gately got to do with this message board?

What is the conspiracy? What is the point?

I think this has everything to do with this message board ; its essential that we are consistantly critical of all ' NEWS' that we see and hear from the media, there will and always has been false reporting/ repeating on the news; the reason we are here on this forum is because we are willing to search deeper than the majority of others , thats why i think anything reported in the media is of interest to us , peace out .

ragman

11-10-2009, 06:54 PM

I'm not a fan of numerology but that is too much to be coincidence. I'm really starting to wonder now. How do the PTB benefit from doing this? It's very bizarre.

i dont understand , could someone help me on this one , ????? cheers folks

ragman

11-10-2009, 06:55 PM

marpat

11-10-2009, 06:59 PM

This coming from a cross dressing nutcase, if he died of a so called overdose like many other celebs then i am within my right to suspect foul play, remember Michael Jackson and Heath Ledger for example had lethal injections or med pills switched. They are slowly introducing people to their global religion without them realizing the evil intentions behind it.

Remember what Crowley said about every man being born as a star, well when you become a music or movie star they will do everything in their power to turn that star upside down. A upside down star is known as the reverse pentagram which is common in satanic rituals and gatherings, this is also symbolic for the Baphomet or otherwise known as the goathead.

:D. What an active imagination you have. Do you know what the outside of your house looks like?

grachtengordel

11-10-2009, 07:17 PM

This was detailed in 'When Louis Theroux met Max Clifford'. It's been deleted from Youtube, but you can watch it here if you install Install Veoh Web Player - I haven't, so don't know if there's a catch.

When Louis Theroux Met Max Clifford (http://www.veoh.com/collection/louistherouxseries/watch/v4152959qN8WWCS#)

I found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf6HxmXuKBE

diamond dogs

11-10-2009, 07:26 PM

[http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/reviews/dcurseb.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1183749/Stephen-Gately-leave-Boyzone-fans-screaming--gory-make-new-horror-flick.html)

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m3/feb2007/7/0/CA9748FE-C256-F0DC-605638DF45CB0F44.jpg skull and bones

The four remaining members of Boyzone described Gately as "our friend and brother".

tribe_of_david

11-10-2009, 08:08 PM

R.I.P

Dont know if this has already been mentioned but what are the odds on after the Autopsy it states Steven had some 'underlying medical condition'.

Over the last few wonths this phrase has been used more and more. Firstly with all the initial deaths due to the Swine Flu, That the people dying had 'underlying medical issues'.

Then the girl in Coventry after having the vaccination at school, turns out she had 'underlying medical condition'.

Maybe i have just got my Conspiracy hat on today but if the autopsy comes back as he had 'underlying medical condintion' then we here the phrase again.

Like when in the MSM we hear 'weapons of mass destruction' over and over again. And saturated coverage of various knfe crimes, gun crimes ect ect .... hope yer follwing what i mean.

seaweed

11-10-2009, 08:18 PM

Whilst I was not particularly a fan of his music, I had the pleasure of spending some time with Stephen Gately at a 'showbiz' party, and can confirm that he was indeed a lovely person; charming, polite, humble, and somewhat awed in the presence of the bigger 'stars' who were also in attendance.

The party in question was the aftershow of a charity event where Stephen had performed on stage alongside big name musicians including Elton John and Sting. Stephen had felt out of his depth, but had performed excellently and had won over the audience with his honesty and vulnerability.

At the time he was about to appear as Joseph in the West End, and said how proud he was to be doing so, and how determined he was to perfect his performance in the role, as he was concerned that he might not be taken seriously, having come from a boy band.

This is indeed a terrible loss for his family and friends.

steevo

11-10-2009, 08:19 PM

I found this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf6HxmXuKBE

It's a real shame that they took those videos off youtube cos they were essential viewing IMO.

candygirl

11-10-2009, 08:36 PM

lostworld

11-10-2009, 09:24 PM

Thank you lost your info as always makes sense in this mad bad world. The more i think about this it saddens me even more how can such a young guy just fall asleep and not wake up again???
Something just is not right.
Just another victim of the Music machine v sad.
Does anyone think the blue eyes are relevant in all this?

Thanks Candy for your kind words. :)
These things keep happening and yet so many think this is just "normal deaths", "accidents", "suicides" etc, all due to a self-destructive lifestyle :rolleyes:

People are being killed off. It's a reality and part of the agenda. So wake up!
(And no, I'm not gonna post any evidence to back my claims. That's already been done. Both here and on other forums. So you critics - who doesn't even bother to study this and connect the dots yourself - can hold your horses.)

bendelapidate

11-10-2009, 09:42 PM

I will miss him like I miss all the other talent in the factory-pop world.

You have to question the morality of plucking complete strangers from obscurity and then making them into performing puppets for the pop-daddys - it must have an element of psychological trauma and subsequent need to indulge in strange sexual practices, class A drugs and a hedonistic lifestyle. Strange.

wisdomgirl

11-10-2009, 09:50 PM

A cheap shot at whom? Stephen Gately does not exist anymore, so it can't of been a cheap shot against him.

You sound like quite a sick individual, the coldness in your posts are really quite astounding! "Being matter of fact" in your posts give the impression you are very tactless and hard.

If anything if those were your true honest feelings on the death of steven gately then fine everyone has the right to their opinions. But you must also realize at the same time that people viewing such comments by you are done for affect which i find sad.

So just a little bit of sensitivity at least, the fact steven was a homosexual man shouldn't take away the fact that this young man has lost his life, and he also seemed like a nice person, if you have any proof of your comments being actually true then please post the evidence. Otherwise be a bit more human and show some respect (respect can be shown to the dead and the living)

frase

11-10-2009, 09:51 PM

Simon Cowell on his Jetski emblazoned with the Masonic symbol on the front.....hmmmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1100664/Aint-life-drag-Simon-Cowell-enjoys-cigarette-taking-break-jet-skiing.html

blackster

11-10-2009, 10:28 PM

Death is only the end of the 3d holographic body. Best to you Stephen wherever you are.

Here here well said I second that.

RIP

keystone

11-10-2009, 10:34 PM

............then i am within my right to suspect foul play.................Yes but to convert your suspicion into a statement of fact seems a little OTT and premature.

Cheers

candygirl

11-10-2009, 11:15 PM

Thanks Candy for your kind words. :)
These things keep happening and yet so many think this is just "normal deaths", "accidents", "suicides" etc, all due to a self-destructive lifestyle :rolleyes:

People are being killed off. It's a reality and part of the agenda. So wake up!
(And no, I'm not gonna post any evidence to back my claims. That's already been done. Both here and on other forums. So you critics - who doesn't even bother to study this and connect the dots yourself - can hold your horses.)

It is time every one connected the dots the deaths are not just normal deaths.
The music/celeb machine is full of programming and symbolisim, it's a war on the human soul.
We can all be like the 3 monkeys if we wish, "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil," and be critics no end screaming "where's the proof?" but that is pure naivety cos there will never be proof in black and white. ( the agenda must be hidden from view).
It may be painful facing the truth for some but it's time to face the sordid truth about how deep this all goes.
Whether famous or not the human race are just pawns to be played with and controlled no matter what.
The elite just use humans for their agenda of rituals to feed their psychopath egos and dark energy.
We could equate the suspect deaths of celebs to the flu mantra we are all supposed to chant when we get a sniffle " Catch it, bin it, kill it." that's what we all are to the elite something to use and discard when we have outlived their purpose.
Lost keep up the good work!. Thank you for connecting the dots :)

adbasque

11-10-2009, 11:33 PM

So you did just make it up. Expected more, don't know why. Hey ho.

No they came back at night three of them homosexuals, him and his partner and another one.
Who cares what they did, he is dead, he is not the first to die in his sleep, millions die everyday, we all going that way.

He is human being, it's always sad when a human being dies I don't care who he is, some people somewhere will miss him.

Drugs or alcohol or just naturally died what difference does it make, is it going to bring him back, no.

So let the guy alone, I am not saying you Mrerisian, I am talking in general.

For many years we thought other celebrities died from tragic accidents or just dropped dead, and 30 years later we found out that they were executed.

Jim Morrison
Jimmy Hendrix
Marilyn Monroe
Kurt Cobain
and many many more the list is endless, and yet none of them died from natural causes.

Time will tell, what really happened.

Peace everyone, I personally didn't like the band I couldn't see no talent whatsoever not just him but all of them.

I am not a fan of pre-fabricated bands.

The same way I don't like take that and all of these made up bands, singers, etc.., although If I had to choose between Boyzone and Take that I think i'd prefer take that, but at the moment none.

They are not at all my cup of tea.

boy better know

11-10-2009, 11:38 PM

You sound like quite a sick individual, the coldness in your posts are really quite astounding! "Being matter of fact" in your posts give the impression you are very tactless and hard.

If anything if those were your true honest feelings on the death of steven gately then fine everyone has the right to their opinions. But you must also realize at the same time that people viewing such comments by you are done for affect which i find sad.

So just a little bit of sensitivity at least, the fact steven was a homosexual man shouldn't take away the fact that this young man has lost his life, and he also seemed like a nice person, if you have any proof of your comments being actually true then please post the evidence. Otherwise be a bit more human and show some respect (respect can be shown to the dead and the living)

It is pointless to show respect for something that no longer exists.

And I have shown no disrespect to him. I have said that I did not respect him when he was alive. Refusing to respect someone is not the same as disrespect.

I merely stated an early theory on what caused his death. As I have repetedly stated in this thead, gay people have as much right to engage in sex games as straight people do.

It sounds like you are the one who has a hang up about him choosing to live a gay lifestlyle.

lostworld

11-10-2009, 11:43 PM

It is time every one connected the dots the deaths are not just normal deaths.
The music/celeb machine is full of programming and symbolisim, it's a war on the human soul.
We can all be like the 3 monkeys if we wish, "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil," and be critics no end screaming "where's the proof?" but that is pure naivety cos there will never be proof in black and white. ( the agenda must be hidden from view).
It may be painful facing the truth for some but it's time to face the sordid truth about how deep this all goes.
Whether famous or not the human race are just pawns to be played with and controlled no matter what.
The elite just use humans for their agenda of rituals to feed their psychopath egos and dark energy.
We could equate the suspect deaths of celebs to the flu mantra we are all supposed to chant when we get a sniffle " Catch it, bin it, kill it." that's what we all are to the elite something to use and discard when we have outlived their purpose.
Lost keep up the good work!. Thank you for connecting the dots :)

Thank you so much :) :o

And very true what you say. Let them demand impossible proof all they want. They will be the first in line to go anyway and never know what hit them until it's too late. I for one will not be sorry seeing some of them go... :p
Of course I want as many people as possible to wake up but some are just out of reach and clearly they don't wanna listen either. It will be a tough lesson though... much more painful than facing the truth now when they still have the chance... :rolleyes:

candygirl

12-10-2009, 12:07 AM

Thank you so much :) :o

And very true what you say. Let them demand impossible proof all they want. They will be the first in line to go anyway and never know what hit them until it's too late. I for one will not be sorry seeing some of them go... :p
Of course I want as many people as possible to wake up but some are just out of reach and clearly they don't wanna listen either. It will be a tough lesson though... much more painful than facing the truth now when they still have the chance... :rolleyes:

Well said!.
Thank you again my friend:)
You have shown methe truth and connecting the dots, that's for sure and i will never go back to being blinkered to the truth.

mrerisian

12-10-2009, 12:47 AM

The way that I wrote that post should have told you that I was just stating a theory.
You didn't add a question mark. You stated it as fact.

Then you go on to spit on his still warm body with comments like:
I had no respect for him. he never had any talent.

Now you're trying to squirm out of it as you realise everyone here is horrified by your callous post, rather than laugh along like football hooligans.
you are in the process of trying to justify what was IMO a very hasty ill judged post in the first instance. Unfortunately your post has turned out not to be so clever as you first thought.

The tide is changing buddy. People on this board are starting to reject nasty homophobic posts like the one you enjoyed writing moments after you heard a young gay man had died.

Your attempts to justify the original comment only serve your ego while they make your position even worse:
Right. Well If it emerges that he did die in a gay sex game gone wrong you are now going to look bloody stupid for writing that.

If it emerges that he did, I stand by my first response. What a shame to have the private details of your sex life posted at your time of death. The logic of your above post tacitly admits you realise that currently YOU look 'bloody stupid for writing that'. I agree. As do the majority of posters here. Furthermore it's sickening to know that you will be secretly hoping for any suggestion of something like that. Rest assured that if that is the case, none of us will be impressed by you:
preening yourself and crowing from the rooftops about "how you were right" which would be bollocks because all you did was post an ill-judged wild assed guess designed to make you look big in the first instance. If such represents the worth and extent of your research capabilities as a "trooffer" then you are a liability IMO. Your post was nothing less than a childish cheap shot.

What I suggest is that you do the decent thing and APOLOGISE for being a twunt instead of shamelessly trying to re-write your allegation:

He is dead and gone now. what you or I say about him now makes no difference to him.

It matters to those who knew him, some of whom will read your unfounded allegation as proof that we live in a world where a gay man is DEFINED by his sexuality.
You were just tying to show what a really, really big boy you are. You failed. I'm not the only one to take exception to this and it has nothing to do with the subject matter. Tough. Get over it or grow some balls and admit you were out of order.

The sheer weight of posters who are horrified at your behavior must surely have cost you as you read this string. That is unless you're some sort of sociopath who cares not a jot for the feelings of your fellow human beings. People are so embarrassed by the savaging you're getting they're even asking us to stop trying to get you to do the decent thing and apologise:
let the guy alone, I am not saying you Mrerisian, I am talking in general.

Sorry, adbasque, I respect your posts on here but this is exactly the sort of B.S. I'm sick of on this forum. He can make it stop with a simple apology. Until then this kind of crap needs to be confronted and changed. It's 100% opposite to Icke's message.

In fact, I seem to remember Icke using a Boyzone track at one of his talks?

The point remains, the guy ain't even cold and we're getting speculation like that, not in the tabloids (as I first thought when I read the post) but here in 'enlightenment central'. It's got to stop.

lostworld

12-10-2009, 12:50 AM

Well said!.
Thank you again my friend:)
You have shown methe truth and connecting the dots, that's for sure and i will never go back to being blinkered to the truth.

It makes me really glad to hear you say that Candygirl. Again, thank YOU. I really appreciate it. :)

It's great that the Stepford thread and other good threads on this forum can help people on their journey to discover the truth...

:) :) :) :)

candygirl

12-10-2009, 12:52 AM

My tribute to a great singer and performer.
Stephen you did this song justice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMahtAaJ6EA

adbasque

12-10-2009, 12:58 AM

You didn't add a question mark. You stated it as fact.

Then you go on to spit on his still warm body with comments like:

Now you're trying to squirm out of it as you realise everyone here is horrified by your callous post, rather than laugh along like football hooligans.

The tide is changing buddy. People on this board are starting to reject nasty homophobic posts like the one you enjoyed writing moments after you heard a young gay man had died.

Your attempts to justify the original comment only serve your ego while they make your position even worse:

If it emerges that he did, I stand by my first response. What a shame to have the private details of your sex life posted at your time of death. The logic of your above post tacitly admits you realise that currently YOU look 'bloody stupid for writing that'. I agree. As do the majority of posters here. Furthermore it's sickening to know that you will be secretly hoping for any suggestion of something like that. Rest assured that if that is the case, none of us will be impressed by you:

What I suggest is that you do the decent thing and APOLOGISE for being a twunt instead of shamelessly trying to re-write your allegation:

It matters to those who knew him, some of whom will read your unfounded allegation as proof that we live in a world where a gay man is DEFINED by his sexuality.

The sheer weight of posters who are horrified at your behavior must surely have cost you as you read this string. That is unless you're some sort of sociopath who cares not a jot for the feelings of your fellow human beings. People are so embarrassed by the savaging you're getting they're even asking us to stop trying to get you to do the decent thing and apologise:

Sorry, adbasque, I respect your posts on here but this is exactly the sort of B.S. I'm sick of on this forum. He can make it stop with a simple apology. Until then this kind of crap needs to be confronted and changed. It's 100% opposite to Icke's message.

In fact, I seem to remember Icke using a Boyzone track at one of his talks?

The point remains, the guy ain't even cold and we're getting speculation like that, not in the tabloids (as I first thought when I read the post) but here in 'enlightenment central'. It's got to stop.

I have to agree with you, we as human beings, we owe each other at least this little respect, regardless whether we liked the person while they were still alive or not, he still is a human being, what he did in his life it's his business.

I don't like his music but as a fellow human being who passed away, ceased to live, we owe him some respect.

I don't care who it is, a human being is a human being, he has his family people who will be sadened by his death we need to show some respect, this is the least we can do.

As you said we don't even know yet what happened and we started speculating this and that.

Yes there are strong possibilities he might've been a victim of something or it could simply be a tragic accident.

Bottom line we must show respect to our fellow human being, this man never did anything to me good or bad, he may rest in peace.

End of story :)

candygirl

12-10-2009, 01:01 AM

It makes me really glad to hear you say that Candygirl. Again, thank YOU. I really appreciate it. :)

It's great that the Stepford thread and other good threads on this forum can help people on their journey to discover the truth...

:) :) :) :)

:D
too right:)

boy better know

12-10-2009, 01:42 AM

Now you're trying to squirm out of it as you realise everyone here is horrified by your callous post, rather than laugh along like football hooligans.

No. I stand by every word. The man is dead. What I write or say about him makes no difference to Mr Gately BECAUSE MR GATELY DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.

The tide is changing buddy. People on this board are starting to reject nasty homophobic posts like the one you enjoyed writing moments after you heard a young gay man had died.

No. You were the one who made a homophobic statement by writing that there is something wrong with gay people engaging in sex games in the same way that some straight people do. You said it was a "smear on his reputation".

I didn't say that, you did.

Your attempts to justify the original comment only serve your ego while they make your position even worse:

Boy better know I gave up caring about how things look, and what is popular or not, a long time ago.

I don't care about what is popular, I care about what is righteous.

If it emerges that he did, I stand by my first response. What a shame to have the private details of your sex life posted at your time of death. The logic of your above post tacitly admits you realise that currently YOU look 'bloody stupid for writing that'. I agree. As do the majority of posters here. Furthermore it's sickening to know that you will be secretly hoping for any suggestion of something like that. Rest assured that if that is the case, none of us will be impressed by you:

The only reason you are able to pay your worthless platitudes to this man who no longer exists is because the media have told you that he is dead. The very same media that will now procceed to dig deeper into the case so they can benifit form a story with "legs" that will run and run.

You can't have it both ways.

What I suggest is that you do the decent thing and APOLOGISE for being a twunt instead of shamelessly trying to re-write your allegation:

You don't seem to understand that I am not the one who made a homophobic statement. You are deflecting.

It matters to those who knew him, some of whom will read your unfounded allegation as proof that we live in a world where a gay man is DEFINED by his sexuality.

As I recall Mr Gately made quite a hansom sum of money out of the exclusive interviews he did regarding his sexuality when he came out.

So according to you it is ok for him to turn his sexuality into an issue he can make money out of when he was alive, but after he no longer exists -and it makes no difference to him - I am in the wrong for even mentioning it?

The sheer weight of posters who are horrified at your behavior must surely have cost you as you read this string. That is unless you're some sort of sociopath who cares not a jot for the feelings of your fellow human beings. People are so embarrassed by the savaging you're getting they're even asking us to stop trying to get you to do the decent thing and apologise:

I don't care about what is popular I care about what is righteous. That does not make me a sociopath.

Sorry, adbasque, I respect your posts on here but this is exactly the sort of B.S. I'm sick of on this forum. He can make it stop with a simple apology. Until then this kind of crap needs to be confronted and changed. It's 100% opposite to Icke's message.

Make it stop? You write as if you and the rest of the reactionary mob on here are inflicting some kind of hardship om me, or causing me some kind of pain.

OH! Please Please Please make it stop! For the love of god make it stop!

Have a guess whether or not I could care less what you all think.

marc_o

12-10-2009, 01:45 AM

Listen to yourself. You didn't know him. You never met him. You have no idea what kind of person he was.

How can you defend that comment?

I'm going to be honest, gay sex games did pop into my head as a possible reason he might have died, but to be discusting and graphic, as well as disrespectful like the chap you defend is abhorrent. I'm not a fan of homosexuality, but SG was a human, who deserves our love.

RIP Stephen.

For shame boybetterknow.

marc_o

12-10-2009, 01:50 AM

No. I stand by every word. The man is dead. What I write or say about him makes no difference to Mr Gately BECAUSE MR GATELY DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.

No. You were the one who made a homophobic statement by writing that there is something wrong with gay people engaging in sex games in the same way that some straight people do. You said it was a "smear on his reputation".

I didn't say that, you did.

Boy better know I gave up caring about how things look, and what is popular or not, a long time ago.

I don't care about what is popular, I care about what is righteous.

The only reason you are able to pay your worthless platitudes to this man who no longer exists is because the media have told you that he is dead. The very same media that will now procceed to dig deeper into the case so they can benifit form a story with "legs" that will run and run.

You can't have it both ways.

You don't seem to understand that I am not the one who made a homophobic statement. You are deflecting.

As I recall Mr Gately made quite a hansom sum of money out of the exclusive interviews he did regarding his sexuality when he came out.

So according to you it is ok for him to turn his sexuality into an issue he can make money out of when he was alive, but after he no longer exists -and it makes no difference to him - I am in the wrong for even mentioning it?

I don't care about what is popular I care about what is righteous. That does not make me a sociopath.

Make it stop? You write as if you and the rest of the reactionary mob on here are inflicting some kind of hardship om me, or causing me some kind of pain.

OH! Please Please Please make it stop! For the love of god make it stop!

Have a guess whether or not I could care less what you all think.

OMG! There is no reasoning with stupidity so peeps lets not bother with this chap, he is clearly a vile egotistical individual.

Another case of a person bending reality around his arguement. I'm sure if an initial post disagreeing with him also included a compliment then he would have couragously apologised for any insensitivity. Such is the behaviour of the ego.

boy better know

12-10-2009, 01:56 AM

OMG! There is no reasoning with stupidity so peeps lets not bother with this chap, he is clearly a vile egotistical individual.

Another case of a person bending reality around his arguement. I'm sure if an initial post disagreeing with him also included a compliment then he would have couragously apologised for any insensitivity. Such is the behaviour of the ego.

Every single one of you is invited to place me on ignore.

I will not be doing the same to any of you.

infin8_possibility

12-10-2009, 02:15 AM

It's a real shame that they took those videos off youtube cos they were essential viewing IMO.

Here's a torrent to every episode Louis Theroux has ever done, just deselect all the other episodes before downloading if you only want the Max Clifford episode.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4869061

Maybe someone could download it and up it to YT? If anyone doesn't know how to use torrents, PM me. :)

life2live

12-10-2009, 02:34 AM

I guess this is partially directed at Boy Better Know, there is a tradition in both the UK and Ireland of when someone dies you try to remember the positive things about them. I find it a very sad human that is not able to uphold that tradition.

I find it even more sad we don't celebrate the positive things about people whilst they are still here. RIP Stephen.

bulletproofheart

12-10-2009, 02:41 AM

Here's a torrent to every episode Louis Theroux has ever done, just deselect all the other episodes before downloading if you only want the Max Clifford episode.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4869061

Maybe someone could download it and up it to YT? If anyone doesn't know how to use torrents, PM me. :)

Max Clifford could sink hundreds of celebrities if he wished...believe me.Uk singer Craig David is on his books as well.The cover ups with him are bizzare.

Louix Theroux has stood on a few peoples toes.I thought for a while he would no longer have a show.

boy better know

12-10-2009, 02:46 AM

I guess this is partially directed at Boy Better Know, there is a tradition in both the UK and Ireland of when someone dies you try to remember the positive things about them. I find it a very sad human that is not able to uphold that tradition.

You find it sad that I choose not to follow tradition? I don't fox hunt either, are you sad about that?

I find it even more sad we don't celebrate the positive things about people whilst they are still here. RIP Stephen.

Absolutley right.

rashhead

12-10-2009, 03:08 AM

God bless the man whatever, I'm so sorry to hear about this

I wish his family and loved ones the greatest respect and peacefulness

armoured_amazon

12-10-2009, 04:26 AM

'Andy was alone in the flat when he discovered Stephen's body,' she said. 'It was absolutely horrific.'

Mr Cowles made a desperate attempt to revive Gately - giving him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

But Gately, who was wearing pyjamas, had drowned from the fluid on his lungs.

Friends said Mr Cowles was in a terrible state and told them: 'I can't believe he's gone.'

Gately was discovered at 1.45pm on Saturday in the apartment in the exclusive resort of Port Andratx in south west Majorca.

One investigator said: 'He was in a strange position. He was found squatting down on the sofa almost in a praying position.'

A post-mortem examination is expected to be carried out tomorrow because it is a public holiday in Spain today.

Convenient that they can't do the post-mortem until enough time has passed for any suspicious drugs to have disappeared from his system, huh?

The position thing's weird. And what would cause fluid in the lungs?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219727/Boyzone-star-Stephen-Gately-partner-asked-Bulgarian-1m-apartment.html#ixzz0TgPrVvNy

limelady

12-10-2009, 04:32 AM

Convenient that they can't do the post-mortem until enough time has passed for any suspicious drugs to have disappeared from his system, huh?

The position thing's weird. And what would cause fluid in the lungs?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219727/Boyzone-star-Stephen-Gately-partner-asked-Bulgarian-1m-apartment.html#ixzz0TgPrVvNy

There can be many causes for fluid to accumulate in the lungs.....pneumonia, heart disease for a start. But if it was an existing medical condition, his condition would be known (surely?), and his symptoms would most likely have shown up much earlier in the day, well before he got to the stage where he was unable to breathe.

So I'm thinking this was likely caused by something very unexpected.

armoured_amazon

12-10-2009, 04:41 AM

There can be many causes for fluid to accumulate in the lungs.....pneumonia, heart disease for a start. But if it was an existing medical condition, his condition would be known (surely?), and his symptoms would most likely have shown up much earlier in the day, well before he got to the stage where he was unable to breathe.

So I'm thinking this was likely caused by something very unexpected.

Yes, usually fluid in the lungs would be related to something else and a person wouldn't feel up to clubbing on holiday and bringing a third person back. What a shame. It always makes me question my own mortality when someone young dies. And also in a practical sense, because my house is a mess atm, and I wouldn't want someone to have to sort through all my junk. I need to tidy up. :o

mind1universe

12-10-2009, 05:28 AM

By better know.

Have some respect please. If you hate the man pick another time at least. please let the man rest in peace for crying out loud. If you really can't stand the man why are you getting hot and bothered on a thread under his name.

Go and take a walk in a park and don't come out till you sort your temper trantrums and outbursts. Take a deep breath, it will do wonders to you. Your posts are embarrassing and out of line.

RIP Stevan. He was a great singer with talent. It seems some people haven't dropped the habit on knocking someone down for it. The man is dead can we at least say something positive about the man.

Peace
Mind1 :)

strawberries

12-10-2009, 08:00 AM

The leader of 2be3, the most famous french boys band of the 90s, died recently too. Filip Nikolic , on the 16th september.
They had a tremendous success, and all of a sudden, after going to the USA for an english album, signing with another label which ripped them off, the media ruined them and the phenomenon disappeared.
I think the Illuminati didnt like them. They gave a good example for the youngsters. Young, sports, no drugs, heterosexual, no violence and sex in the songs,etc...
Their most famous song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpOYdzSayE0
Filip is the one with brown hair, he's so cute.:):p
Their success was real and big, they werent illuminati puppets. Quite rare.

boots

12-10-2009, 08:46 AM

Convenient that they can't do the post-mortem until enough time has passed for any suspicious drugs to have disappeared from his system, huh?

The position thing's weird. And what would cause fluid in the lungs?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1219727/Boyzone-star-Stephen-Gately-partner-asked-Bulgarian-1m-apartment.html#ixzz0TgPrVvNy

One investigator said: 'He was in a strange position. He was found squatting down on the sofa almost in a praying position.'

That is weird. Who die's in a body position like that? No one in their right mind would place him this possies after they found him dead.

.

cheeney1

12-10-2009, 08:52 AM

Man on Page Four already, ....:rolleyes: what a waste i can see it now by page 20 there will be posts saying he was cloned, by pg 50 he was replaced .....:cool:

I read posts on here have some dignity he died.... OH For .FFS :mad:

For somebody thats just a Tool , a drone of a siloette of a talentless Meatbag to spew out Top 20 Shite which a majority of people could not not give a Fuck sbout except teenage school girls who loved & adore them as Pin up Poster Idles Known as Boyzone

Here is a Question Was He Real.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grachtengordel

12-10-2009, 11:37 AM

Now you're trying to squirm out of it as you realise everyone here is horrified by your callous post, rather than laugh along like football hooligans.

speak for yourself , and ONLY yourself, I am not horrified, ;boybetterknow' has done nothing wrong, he merely stated the facts that its likely that a perverted sex practice was involved in this mans death. a pretty good guess considering it now emerges that another homosexual was present in the hotel room that night. Hard drugs were probably involved as a majority of homosexuals seem to be into hard drugs. it's just the most likely scenario.

you are projecting your emotional reactions onto 'boybetterknow' who has been curteous and honest all the way

grachtengordel

12-10-2009, 11:42 AM

Max Clifford could sink hundreds of celebrities if he wished...believe me.Uk singer Craig David is on his books as well.The cover ups with him are bizzare.

so whats the scoop on craig david? did he perform 'favours' to get his record deal?

zyphus

12-10-2009, 01:50 PM

I told a joke about him the other day and a couple of people got really offended.

It's only words...

fekdemasons

12-10-2009, 02:08 PM

so whats the scoop on craig david? did he perform 'favours' to get his record deal?

Yeah ,

how many of today's manufactured shite " you dont know what this means to me " here today gone tomorrow popstars , have actually gobbled the porridge from cowell / walsh etc etc..

Apart from the obvious will young

Maybe that's what cured gareth Gates stutter , a good walshing:eek::eek:

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 02:32 PM

could be public conditioning in preparation for the 'murder' of a prominent middle aged homosexual??

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 02:33 PM

or as has been said b4
maybe he refused to stick his cock in some kids ass
at the NWO garden-party??

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 02:40 PM

fluid in lungs is wot kills u after a cytokine storm
which is what happens when u r injected with squalene
which ptb use as a preservative in vaccines..

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 02:43 PM

died at 33
hmm we know wot that means
like Pope JPI who died after 33 days..

wisdomgirl

12-10-2009, 02:44 PM

I'm really rather devastated by his death, i wasn't a boyzone fan or even a fan of his music either, but i really liked him whenever i saw him being interviewed on tv. He aways seemed really really sweet and had the cutest little face, i'm really quite emotional and had a little cry and said a prayer from him and his family.

It's strange which deaths affect you, you would think someone your a huge fan of would upset you more, i'm a huge michael jackson fan but steven gately's death has affected me more and i don't know why?

RIP STEVEN!! :(

zyphus

12-10-2009, 03:03 PM

Don't worry, 'you are not alone'. 'Life is a roller coaster' and it's a 'new beginning' for him. 'In this life' it's easy to think 'if only you were here' there would be 'brighter days' ahead. 'I will miss you', especially 'when the tough gets tougher'. But I'm 'strong enough', 'I believe'. I'm a 'daydream believer' and I will 'walk on'. I 'should be missing you now', but 'no matter'. 'We speak as one'. Stephen, and you say it best 'when you say nothing at all'.

I don't 'wanna be where you are', 'if only you were here'.

'At the end of a perfect day' 'I will miss you'..

Couldn't resist :D

lupa

12-10-2009, 04:53 PM

A couple of things have made me think there's more to his death than meets the eye. firstly something my mum said yesterday. she said she saw steven plastered all over the telly for a few days and that show that's on once a year, britains heros?? its called something like that, anyway my mum said when she watched that, they kept zooming in to steven all the way through the awards, it was only after she heard he'd died that she wondered why they were focusing on him all the time. then the bbc news did a little tribute to him but the clip they showed was of him acting..what did he talk about in the clip? a pentagram in a circle:eek: i thought that was strange showing that being as he was known for signing and not for acting. were the media conditioning us to accept his death?

mrerisian

12-10-2009, 05:12 PM

No. I stand by every word. The man is dead. What I write or say about him makes no difference to Mr Gately BECAUSE MR GATELY DOES NOT EXIST ANYMORE.
Dude - you're going round in circles here. I've already explained to you that people who knew him and met him will read your words. We've already had people who've stepped forward and posted on here who met him.

You're trying to twist things and no one is buying it. This isn't a forum for idiots, it's for people can see through the spin. Particularly yours.

No. You were the one who made a homophobic statement by writing that there is something wrong with gay people engaging in sex games in the same way that some straight people do. You said it was a "smear on his reputation".
The above is precisely what I'm talking about.

Boy better know I gave up caring about how things look, and what is popular or not, a long time ago.

And did you give up caring about how things look before or after you posted your thoughts on a forum for other people to look at?
C'mon buddy this is yet more Mandlesonesque spin. We can see through it.

I don't care about what is popular, I care about what is righteous.

However, if you wrote that with a straight face you deserve a medal.

As I recall Mr Gately made quite a hansom sum of money out of the exclusive interviews he did regarding his sexuality when he came out.

So according to you it is ok for him to turn his sexuality into an issue he can make money out of when he was alive, but after he no longer exists -and it makes no difference to him - I am in the wrong for even mentioning it?

No - you know what people have objected to. We're not concerned that you mentioned he's gay. We're concerned by the baseless allegation you made moments after hearing of his death. An allegation informed only by prejudice.

Make it stop? You write as if you and the rest of the reactionary mob on here are inflicting some kind of hardship om me, or causing me some kind of pain.

OH! Please Please Please make it stop! For the love of god make it stop!

Have a guess whether or not I could care less what you all think.

Ok - Mr Spindoctor, if you're not bothered about what people think of your 'righteous' (or not) statements perhaps you should stop posting up pathetic defences for a comment that is universally recognized on this board as tactless and insensitive.

The fact you keep posting up your transparent spindoctoring nonsense means I'm inclined to guess that you do care. That's good, it means you're learning to change. I'll bet you don't repeat this mistake in the future. ;)

steevo

12-10-2009, 07:57 PM

marpat

12-10-2009, 08:21 PM

I was reading that there was a mystery guest as well but I dont think it will be Barrymore

pipsicle

12-10-2009, 08:28 PM

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 08:37 PM

IN his last movie Stephen played one of five students who tried to summon the devil. In the movie he's later found dead.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/StH7W8WPBvI/AAAAAAAAVxM/e_J4ptfZJ4g/s1600-h/credo_dvd_face_2small.jpg

interesting

anyway i say calm down dears
it could be one of those moves to deflect fm sth else
i wonder if NWO has got the balls to come out with hands up n say fair cop gov, game over once theyre cornered or will they drag it on to the bitter end??

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 09:02 PM

remember they control and manipulate everything
thru film tv and print media
much of it orchestrated by The Tavistock Institute

jesuitsdidit

12-10-2009, 09:23 PM

remember they control and manipulate everything
thru film tv and print media
much of it orchestrated by The Tavistock Institute

see
Mustvideo Tavistock Institute Global Manipulation

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86164

sylviasilver

12-10-2009, 11:37 PM

Have you ever wondered why the mainstream newspapers only "out" SOME of the gays in show business, but they leave others alone ? There are tons of gay celebrities but only certain ones (at particular times) get focussed on.
The mainstream newspapers blackmail famous people and celebrities (and especially polititians), with threats of "outing" them. Every famous person will have a file down at MI5.
The "managers" of pop bands prefer to employ people who have "skeletons" in their closets, and if they DONT have any "skeletons", then they have to use plan B. I am NOT saying that Gately was a victim of foul play, only his close friends and family will have any idea if that was the case, but the mainstream media dont tell the truth so WE shall probably never know.

..do you mean, for example, the gay, in the closet likes of Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh, Phillip Schofield, Andy Peters..etc..(the list is far too endless).. Quite obviously their 'club' mates in the industry are protecting them for a very good reason, no doubt if they do not tow their company line, they too will be suicided..:eek:

Very interesting observation with regards to managers and pop bands..wasn't the same with that guy from Westlife?...another band managed by Mr [hetro..:rolleyes:] Walsh...

..or am I being a tad cynical?

sylviasilver

12-10-2009, 11:43 PM

Ex-pop star Sinitta SUPPOSEDLY dated Cowell. She has since made a "comeback" as a Judge on a "reality" tv show.

Sinitta also apparently dated David Essex and Brad Pitt.

Yeah, and didn't she do some article where she was bangin on about how "great he was in bed"..hmmm...why does she need to say that? Cowell controls EVERYTHING that is written about him, including absurd rubbish like that

the others guys on the list..all really, really, deffo, hetro...;)

..aren't the likes of her referred to as a 'beard'..?

;)

sithnemesis

12-10-2009, 11:54 PM

Stephen Gately dead...

WHO DID IT ? :D

sylviasilver

12-10-2009, 11:59 PM

Max Clifford could sink hundreds of celebrities if he wished...believe me.Uk singer Craig David is on his books as well.The cover ups with him are bizzare.

Louix Theroux has stood on a few peoples toes.I thought for a while he would no longer have a show.

..so is Max Clifford the J Edgar Hoover of the celeb world?...Craig David, yeah, another one who has yet to be outed..

I really do not understand why the stars feel the need to cover up their sexuality, from the beginning, there is no shame in being gay, SO MANY people in the ent industry are gay, probably more than hetrosexual, so why is it still classed as something that should be hidden????

Elton John, Will Young, George Micheal, all came out, and their popularity is not diminished..I think it is even worse in the States, how many openly gay entertainers there? Not many !

adbasque

13-10-2009, 02:49 AM

..so is Max Clifford the J Edgar Hoover of the celeb world?...Craig David, yeah, another one who has yet to be outed..

I really do not understand why the stars feel the need to cover up their sexuality, from the beginning, there is no shame in being gay, SO MANY people in the ent industry are gay, probably more than hetrosexual, so why is it still classed as something that should be hidden????

Elton John, Will Young, George Micheal, all came out, and their popularity is not diminished..I think it is even worse in the States, how many openly gay entertainers there? Not many !

Because that is exactly what the Elite wanted right from the word go, it's a psychological game, they hide it for while to give that impression of being afraid of coming out, and then they come out of the "closet" two things will happen.

One is they will cause controversy, no such thing as a bad publicity it's all a psychological game.

Two, they will be "abused" insulted brought down by the media etc.. and then their popularity will rocket, they will gain people's sympathy and most people will end up pointing the finger at themselves of being intolerant.

It's a deep deep psychological technique used time and time again.
it's been done for years and years now, the same thing happened to Rock Hudson, Freddy Mercury, and many others.

Yes these people have well and truly been used by the "media" = Elite
But the game is played on the rest of us, these people are just puppets like the politicians and so on..

They can even kill a homosexual and accuse some lunatic to have done it and he always hated homosexuals blah blah which means we are all lunatics, unless we become homosexuals.

It's not good enough for them, to just be tolerant, to be indifferent, but you must be part of it or you're a bigot.

That's where they are driving at and I tell you something with time they might succeed to turn half the population either homsexuals or bisexuals.
Anyway that's their plan.
And of course legalise paedophilia, legalise all sorts of things.
Even human sacrifice one day it will be legalised, yes go on call me crazy or paranoid I don't really care but I can almost predict it.

pri01

13-10-2009, 08:05 AM

I haven't managed to read over the previous posts so my apologies if this has already been commented on. I couldn't help but question a news bullitin yesterday where the reader said that the Spanish police had ruled out 'foul play'. Without any post-mortem investigation etc. how can they draw such rapid conclusions? Kind of looks like a cover up to me where the human psych is conditioned to believe a certain path from the outset.

Just an example and I know this is vey different, but remember when news bullitins on 9-11, they had people being interviewed saying things like 'it was the extreme heat from the fire that meleted the structure that brought the towers down'. To me it's the same thing. The media newsreaders unwittingly getting us to believe a certain viewpoint.

accuracy

13-10-2009, 10:09 AM

blood money

13-10-2009, 03:25 PM

an occurance of 'gay' headlines all in the a tight time frame.

1. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/an...e-and-suicide/ - matt lucas

2. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lys-death.html - stephen gaytely

3. - lady gaga - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRNsl_0AZOs&feature=player_embedded - National Equality March Rally: Lady Gaga speaks

not saying its a conspiracy, jus an observation...

adbasque

13-10-2009, 04:02 PM

grachtengordel

13-10-2009, 04:45 PM

..do you mean, for example, the gay, in the closet likes of Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh, Phillip Schofield, Andy Peters..etc..(the list is far too endless).. Quite obviously their 'club' mates in the industry are protecting them for a very good reason, no doubt if they do not tow their company line, they too will be suicided..

louis walsh too? i suppose he probably is looking at the 'bands' he produced

and to think that some parents actually let their sons go off to 'boot camp' with these 'people'

grachtengordel

13-10-2009, 04:48 PM

Because that is exactly what the Elite wanted right from the word go, it's a psychological game, they hide it for while to give that impression of being afraid of coming out, and then they come out of the "closet" two things will happen.

One is they will cause controversy, no such thing as a bad publicity it's all a psychological game.

Two, they will be "abused" insulted brought down by the media etc.. and then their popularity will rocket, they will gain people's sympathy and most people will end up pointing the finger at themselves of being intolerant.

It's a deep deep psychological technique used time and time again.
it's been done for years and years now, the same thing happened to Rock Hudson, Freddy Mercury, and many others.

Yes these people have well and truly been used by the "media" = Elite
But the game is played on the rest of us, these people are just puppets like the politicians and so on..

They can even kill a homosexual and accuse some lunatic to have done it and he always hated homosexuals blah blah which means we are all lunatics, unless we become homosexuals.

It's not good enough for them, to just be tolerant, to be indifferent, but you must be part of it or you're a bigot.

well said.

grachtengordel

13-10-2009, 04:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRNsl_0AZOs&feature=player_embedded

that is disgusting. all in the shadow of the masons phallic obelisk in washington DC. no coincidence.

that creature is NOT a human female

"bless god and bless the gays" it says. how can you 'bless' god?

adbasque

13-10-2009, 05:09 PM

that is disgusting. all in the shadow of the masons phallic obelisk in washington DC. no coincidence.

that creature is NOT a human female

"bless god and bless the gays" it says. how can you 'bless' god?

I thought it was God that did the blessing not us blessing him lol

Well these people are just plain zombies, they don't have a brain.

pipsicle

13-10-2009, 05:44 PM

..do you mean, for example, the gay, in the closet likes of Simon Cowell, Louis Walsh, Phillip Schofield, Andy Peters..etc..(the list is far too endless).. Quite obviously their 'club' mates in the industry are protecting them for a very good reason, no doubt if they do not tow their company line, they too will be suicided..:eek:

Not sure about Philip but the others are very, very obvious.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/StIV-pt2JJI/AAAAAAAAVyU/g4YkXtrD_4I/s1600-h/wiz1.jpg

fekdemasons

13-10-2009, 05:56 PM

Not sure about Philip but the others are very, very obvious.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jXMIsK3dV50/StIV-pt2JJI/AAAAAAAAVyU/g4YkXtrD_4I/s1600-h/wiz1.jpg

I know for a fact that Andy peters and Jason Donovan where an item a few years ago.

I could also tell you the who the straight dancers are on Strictly !!

pipsicle

13-10-2009, 06:20 PM

Very nice man, Jason Donavon. And again, very obviously gay.

steevo

13-10-2009, 07:09 PM

I dont reckon Jason Donovan is gay.

seaweed

13-10-2009, 07:18 PM

adbasque

13-10-2009, 07:37 PM

Very nice man, Jason Donavon. And again, very obviously gay.

He is not a homosexual, he is married with two kids and he has been married for a while. whether he is bi I don't know but he is not a homosexual.

Simon Cowel even if I don't like the guy he is a puppet of the NWO again maybe bisexual but not a homosexual, he is like a dog around women.

He loves women, so possibly bisexual, but definitely not homosexual.

steevo

13-10-2009, 07:40 PM

Simon Cowel even if I don't like the guy he is a puppet of the NWO again maybe bisexual but not a homosexual, he is like a dog around women.

He loves women, so possibly bisexual, but definitely not homosexual.

Have you see that Louis Theroux episode with Max Clifford ? If so then you may not be SO sure about Cowell.

adbasque

13-10-2009, 07:40 PM

I dont reckon Jason Donovan is gay.

No he is not I am sure of that, he was in love with kylie for years and then he got married to another girl had two girls with her and they have been married for ages, now if he is bisexual I don't know, but homo No.

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 07:59 PM

adbasque

13-10-2009, 10:09 PM

Have you see that Louis Theroux episode with Max Clifford ? If so then you may not be SO sure about Cowell.

I know he lived with Sinnita for ages, if he is bisexual I don't know, but I don't think he is a homosexual and to be honest I don't care it's his life, I don't like him anyway loll

What episode with max clifford?

steevo

13-10-2009, 10:13 PM

I know he lived with Sinnita for ages, if he is bisexual I don't know, but I don't think he is a homosexual and to be honest I don't care it's his life, I don't like him anyway loll

What episode with max clifford?

If you go through my posts a few pages or so back you will see a link that Infin8_possibility posted.

I dont mind that Cowell is gay, I dont like him but his sexuality is his own business, not mine. But Cowell has a MASSIVE problem with regards to his sexuality. He is being blackmailled ALLEDGEDLY by "Max Clifford".

sithnemesis

13-10-2009, 10:29 PM

Remember how OK Magazine ran Jade Goody's obituary in issue 666, while she was still alive?

Well issue 696 (flip the 9 and we're back there) has Stephen Gately's obit as one of their main features.

Weekly magazines go to press Friday or Saturday, let's give OK the benefit of the doubt and say Saturday or Sunday. The police weren't alerted to Stephen's death until 1.45pm on Sunday. It didn't give them much time to get it into issue 696, yet they managed it. They must be psychic...

OK Magazine issue No. 666

JADE GOODY
http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/e/z/ezcjj2uad2afau2j.jpg

http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/e/z/ezcjj2uad2afau2j.jpg (http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/e/z/ezcjj2uad2afau2j.jpg)

OK Magazine Issue No. 696
Stephen Gately

http://www.ok.co.uk/dynamic/magazines/230x308/705.jpg

http://www.ok.co.uk/dynamic/magazines/230x308/705.jpg (http://www.ok.co.uk/dynamic/magazines/230x308/705.jpg)

..

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 10:32 PM

What's the 666 stuff supposed to mean? That the Devil did it?

adbasque

13-10-2009, 10:48 PM

What's the 666 stuff supposed to mean? That the Devil did it?

No the Elite the Masons believe in the 666 it means a great deal to them.
They do things with rituals and it doesn't matter whether we believe it or not, they believe in it.

They do things with dates, symbols etc..

For instance Michael Jackson just before he died his agent had signed him for 50 concerts, he was 50 years old, even though michael didn't want 50 concerts.

Which means either his agent knew that MJ was going to get killed so they can scam the insurance or something like that.
Or he was ordered to book him for 50 concerts.

It's more than just a coincidence that at age 50 he was booked for 50 concerts, you can't do 50 concerts even if you were 20.

So it begs the question.

Anyway you can make what you want out of it, your guess is as good as anybody's in here :)

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 10:55 PM

No the Elite the Masons believe in the 666 it means a great deal to them.

Ok - at the risk of going off topic a bit, aren't the Masons supposed to be the sort who get hot and bothered by 666? I thought it was mainly a Christian based organization? I'd have thought they would dislike 666 because of it being the mark of the beast etc.

Not an expert on Freemasons but just from my limited experience of them I suspect 666 might be the sort of number they'd dislike.

For instance Michael Jackson just before he died his agent had signed him for 50 concerts, he was 50 years old, even though michael didn't want 50 concerts.

Which means either his agent knew that MJ was going to get killed so they can scam the insurance or something like that.
Or he was ordered to book him for 50 concerts.

It's more than just a coincidence that at age 50 he was booked for 50 concerts, you can't do 50 concerts even if you were 20.

I don't think it does mean that. I think it might be a co-incidence. How does it point towards anything? It's not 'proof' on it's own. It might be circumstantial but you'd need a bit more than that for it to be beyond reasonable doubt.

seaweed

13-10-2009, 10:56 PM

What's the 666 stuff supposed to mean? That the Devil did it?

Perhaps that the people or organizations who believe in and align themselves with the Devil, or whatever they consider 666 to represent, intend for it to appear to be a sacrifice?

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 10:58 PM

Perhaps that the people or organizations who believe in and align themselves with the Devil, or whatever they consider 666 to represent, intend for it to appear to be a sacrifice?

But who seriously aligns themselves with the devil?

seaweed

13-10-2009, 11:07 PM

But who seriously aligns themselves with the devil?

This guy, perhaps. Not the best video about this, but there are a lot of others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XgOdOIXnnI

Anyway, I'm getting off topic here.:)

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 11:15 PM

This guy, perhaps. Not the best video about this, but there are a lot of others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XgOdOIXnnI

Anyway, I'm getting off topic here.:)

Oh dear. I actually think this is bang on topic. So, we're talking about a bloke who remixed a Jay Z tune and added the barely distinguishable 'Murda Murda Jeeeeeeeeeeeesus 666' which to be honest I can't really make out. It was only after I read what he's supposed to be saying that I could pretend it was there.

That's proof of what exactly?

To my mind it's proof that some people will buy a load of bullsh**.

sithnemesis

13-10-2009, 11:30 PM

Ok - at the risk of going off topic a bit, aren't the Masons supposed to be the sort who get hot and bothered by 666? I thought it was mainly a Christian based organization? I'd have thought they would dislike 666 because of it being the mark of the beast etc.

You must be kidding right :D

Not an expert on Freemasons but just from my limited experience of them I suspect 666 might be the sort of number they'd dislike.

I don't think it does mean that. I think it might be a co-incidence. How does it point towards anything? It's not 'proof' on it's own. It might be circumstantial but you'd need a bit more than that for it to be beyond reasonable doubt.

It sounds like you are in denial of the obvious as the probability of this being true seems uncomfortable to you... Take some time to do some un-learning mrerisian This is not a court of law, so please spare us the 'beyond reasonable doubt' bit... by the way I am not homophobic though categorised as a Conspiracy Theorist

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/pics/borninblood.jpg

mrerisian

13-10-2009, 11:45 PM

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/pics/borninblood.jpg

Ok, so if I read Brother Robinson's book I'll learn that Freemasons are secretly satanists? I suspect not, particularly given that he joined up not long after writing that book.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/books/pilgrim.htm

He left behind this interesting resource: http://www.msana.com/

So, where are we now? You provided some pictures, I googled them and we're left with no proof Freemasons are a satanic organisation obsessed with 666. That's not to say they aren't, it just doesn't prove they are. Which is what kicked this off in the first place.

Finding numerical patterns doesn't prove Gately was murdered by Satan Loving Freemasons.

sithnemesis

14-10-2009, 12:10 AM

Ok, so if I read Brother Robinson's book I'll learn that Freemasons are secretly satanists? I suspect not, particularly given that he joined up not long after writing that book.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/books/pilgrim.htm

He left behind this interesting resource: http://www.msana.com/

So, where are we now? You provided some pictures, I googled them and we're left with no proof Freemasons are a satanic organisation obsessed with 666. That's not to say they aren't, it just doesn't prove they are. Which is what kicked this off in the first place.

Finding numerical patterns doesn't prove Gately was murdered by Satan Loving Freemasons.

Wow you like to be handed everything on a silver platter!!! Do you seriously believe that proof would be scattered around the internet for your convenience? :D

You have provided no pictures so therefore we are left with no proof that the Freemasons are not a satanic organisation obsessed with 666.

Do you have any evidence that Gately was not murdered? What evidence do you have that Freemasons were not involved in any fashion?

Both arguments are biased... you will admit and we could go on countering our arguments forever without coming to a settlement.

But the question is why are you here on this forum if you are not willing to see things with a different eye? If not then believe me, we are all nut-cases and you will be in for a bit of a laugh :D

adbasque

14-10-2009, 12:23 AM

Ok - at the risk of going off topic a bit, aren't the Masons supposed to be the sort who get hot and bothered by 666? I thought it was mainly a Christian based organization? I'd have thought they would dislike 666 because of it being the mark of the beast etc.

mind you this is not what I believe, this is what they believe and want the rest of us to believe too.

I don't know if you know this definition
hexakosioihexekontahexaphobia

Let me try and give you what I know so far, what they want to make us believe too.
666 when added it comes to number 9
9 Stands for Greediness and natural disasters

Not an expert on Freemasons but just from my limited experience of them I suspect 666 might be the sort of number they'd dislike.

I don't think it does mean that. I think it might be a co-incidence. How does it point towards anything? It's not 'proof' on it's own. It might be circumstantial but you'd need a bit more than that for it to be beyond reasonable doubt.

One thing you need to understand, they are doing everything they can to link anything and everything to the 666 number.

The same thing goes for number 13, they don't want people to find out what's in the 13th level, hotels don't use 13th floor, people avoid houses numbered 13, and usually things happen to them, not because of the number, but because some people will make those things and relate them to that number.

To create the superstition and a belief system.
Check This link (http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html)

Check out the UPC (Universal Product Code) barcode.
There are other codes too such as
EPC (Electronic Product Code)
and many others.
However not all barcodes are UPC and all have the 666, but many of them do have it.

You probably need to check out what is known in maths as "Magic Square"

I don't know how good you are in maths, but do check out the Magic Square.

it is largely used in Jewish texts of Tanakh and Talmud, notably in those associated with the Kabbalah.

The best-known example of Gematria is the Hebrew word Chai ("life"), which is composed of two letters which add up to 18. This has made 18 a "lucky number" among Jews, and gifts in multiples of $18 are very common among Jews.

Some believe that the 666 number encodes the letters that form the Anti-Christ's name.

I suggest you do some thorough research on this, don't take the first explanation you come across that's all :)

But it's certainly not BS.

adbasque

14-10-2009, 12:30 AM

mrerisian

We don't have any proof that Jim Morrison was killed either
We don't have any evidence that 9/11 was an inside job
There are too many things to which we have no evidence, and if you're waiting for a confession it ain't going to happen.

There are a lot of people who were murdered by them, do you think they will kill somebody and leaving fingers pointing at them?

In the freemasons you have all sorts of people at different levels, the ones at the bottom usually haven't got a clue what's going on at a higher level.

You have to use your common sense.
The 9/11 80% of the world's population knows that it was an inside job, has anyone yet been charged with the mass murders? No

So there you are, not because you can't prove someone is guilty it makes them innocents :)

mrerisian

14-10-2009, 01:35 AM

Wow you like to be handed everything on a silver platter!!! Do you seriously believe that proof would be scattered around the internet for your convenience? :D

No but I did at least expect the book you posted to be in some way relevant to the debate, which clearly it was not. In fact even more googling shows that you couldn't have picked a worse book as evidence of a Satanic conspiracy rotting at the heart of Freemasonry.

As for proof - I'm not making any claims. I'm just asking for proof of the claims being presented to me. That's how it works.

But the question is why are you here on this forum if you are not willing to see things with a different eye? If not then believe me, we are all nut-cases and you will be in for a bit of a laugh :D

Finally, I clearly see things with a different eye mate. Hence the conversation we're currently having over a point of difference. Logic eh?

steevo

14-10-2009, 01:38 AM

No but I did at least expect the book you posted to be in some way relevant to the debate, which clearly it was not. In fact even more googling shows that you couldn't have picked a worse book as evidence of a Satanic conspiracy rotting at the heart of Freemasonry.

As for proof - I'm not making any claims. I'm just asking for proof of the claims being presented to me. That's how it works.

Finally, I clearly see things with a different eye mate. Hence the conversation we're currently having over a point of difference. Logic eh?

Interrogators apparently know that a person is guilty when the accused keeps saying "PROVE IT! PROVE IT!" :p

mrerisian

14-10-2009, 01:44 AM

Interrogators apparently know that a person is guilty when the accused keeps saying "PROVE IT! PROVE IT!" :p

I hope you're not interrogating me! ;)

steevo

14-10-2009, 01:50 AM

I hope you're not interrogating me! ;)

Definitely NOT! :D

limelady

14-10-2009, 09:04 AM

Oh blimey.....this thread has gone well off topic. :(

Would you please try hard to bring it back on-topic please folks?

Those who wish to discuss Satanism within Freemasory (and related subjects) are free to do so on existing threads on these topics, or start their own within THIS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=9) sub-forum.

This thread is primarily related to the recent death of Steven Gately.

Thanks all. :)

armoured_amazon

14-10-2009, 12:07 PM

No but I did at least expect the book you posted to be in some way relevant to the debate, which clearly it was not. In fact even more googling shows that you couldn't have picked a worse book as evidence of a Satanic conspiracy rotting at the heart of Freemasonry.

As for proof - I'm not making any claims. I'm just asking for proof of the claims being presented to me. That's how it works.

Finally, I clearly see things with a different eye mate. Hence the conversation we're currently having over a point of difference. Logic eh?

Seems to me you're a mason.

As one gets further up in the society, one learns the truth; that (their) god they worship, is really satan. Just 'cause YOU can't grasp that, or are trying to dispel the rumour, doesn't make it any less real.

mrerisian

14-10-2009, 02:01 PM

Seems to me you're a mason

I love how you just ignore the suggestion to bring it back on topic...

Stephen Gately's death continues to be mulled over in the news and it looks ever less likely that it was a "gay sex game gone wrong" as alleged on this forum almost immediately. However it does sound like Stephen was in an open relationship. Full story here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2679145/Bulgarian-Georgi-Petrov-Dochev-says-he-woke-up-to-find-Stephen-Gately-dead-after-a-wild-night-partying-with-him-and-husband-Andy-Cowles.html

grachtengordel

14-10-2009, 04:41 PM

Stephen Gately's death continues to be mulled over in the news and it looks ever less likely that it was a "gay sex game gone wrong" as alleged on this forum almost immediately.

The 'news' has been saying that he died of 'natural causes'

If someone restricts a man's air supply enough, it is quite 'natural' for that man to stop breathing

armoured_amazon

14-10-2009, 04:43 PM

I love how you just ignore the suggestion to bring it back on topic...

Stephen Gately's death continues to be mulled over in the news and it looks ever less likely that it was a "gay sex game gone wrong" as alleged on this forum almost immediately. However it does sound like Stephen was in an open relationship. Full story here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2679145/Bulgarian-Georgi-Petrov-Dochev-says-he-woke-up-to-find-Stephen-Gately-dead-after-a-wild-night-partying-with-him-and-husband-Andy-Cowles.html

Didn't read the whole thread; wasn't aware it was a new rule.

pipsicle

14-10-2009, 05:36 PM

He is not a homosexual, he is married with two kids and he has been married for a while. whether he is bi I don't know but he is not a homosexual.

Simon Cowel even if I don't like the guy he is a puppet of the NWO again maybe bisexual but not a homosexual, he is like a dog around women.

He loves women, so possibly bisexual, but definitely not homosexual.

Maybe I'm wrong about JD, although some gay men marry women. And it's *because* Cowell makes such an effort to tell everyone about his exploits with women that I don't buy it. They seem like PR stunts to me.

pipsicle

14-10-2009, 05:48 PM

Simon & Max as described by Steevo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf6HxmXuKBE

mrerisian

14-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Cowell makes such an effort to tell everyone about his exploits with women that I don't buy it. They seem like PR stunts to me.

Me too. But as I've said, it's really no one else's business. However, on topic, it's one of the reasons I felt sorry for the death of Mr Gately. He made a decision to come out and therefore face the homophobia (which you can see on this string) and abuse.

jesuitsdidit

16-10-2009, 12:18 AM

seeing his lungs filled with fluid
it cd b to condition ppl not to query
when ppl start dying from cytokine storm
(which results in lungs filling with fluid)
which they will if the vaccine contains squalene

having 'lanced the boil' ppl wont put 2+2 together until its too late..??

accuracy

16-10-2009, 11:56 AM

Like i say ...another one bites the dust.......................aka
murdered

cheeney1

16-10-2009, 12:00 PM

Like i say ...another one bites the dust.......................aka
murder

yeah right, who would want to kill this fuckin twat :rolleyes:

lupa

16-10-2009, 12:41 PM

yeah right, who would want to kill this fuckin twat :rolleyes:

oh I don't know probably the same twat's that want to kill you. are you worth killing?

is the bile being spread on here due to him being gay? or just that he was a puppet of them? or that your just sick in the mind? wont be long for your shot so be a good boy eh ;)

nofuture

16-10-2009, 01:08 PM

Why there was nothing 'natural' about Stephen Gately's death

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1220756/Why-natural-Stephen-Gatelys-death.html#ixzz0U618HpT3

cheeney1

16-10-2009, 01:47 PM

oh I don't know probably the same twat's that want to kill you. are you worth killing?

is the bile being spread on here due to him being gay? or just that he was a puppet of them? or that your just sick in the mind? wont be long for your shot so be a good boy eh ;)

people have tried, I'm not bullshitting either, they failed .could not give a flying fuck if he was gay straight, necrophilliac, beatiallity a week ago no one really gave a shit about the twat :cool:

steevo

16-10-2009, 04:52 PM

people have tried, I'm not bullshitting either, they failed .could not give a flying fuck if he was gay straight, necrophilliac, beatiallity a week ago no one really gave a shit about the twat :cool:

:rolleyes:

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 09:29 PM

Matt Lucas's ex-husband Kevin McGee hangs himself after leaving Facebook suicide note

The couple had been together for nearly six years when they announced their split in June 2008.

Police broke into McGee's flat in the Bruntsfield district of Edinburgh at 8am yesterday and he was found hanged.
The ominous message had been posted less than four hours earlier, at 4.26am - after which a fearful friend alerted the police.

Matt Lucas, 35, was said to be 'utterly destroyed' by the news and was being comforted by close friend and comedy partner David Walliams at his home in Marylebone, London.
He was too devastated to comment last night and did not attend an awards ceremony where he and Walliams were due to make a guest appearance.
Until further notice, he has also pulled out of West End play Prick Up Your Ears in which he is starring.
A friend of Lucas and McGee said: 'Matt was floored when he heard the news.
'He always loved Kevin despite their differences and their difficult marriage.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1218387/Kevin-McGee-ex-husband-Little-Britain-star-Matt-Lucas-hangs-leaving-Facebook-suicide-note.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1218387/Kevin-McGee-ex-husband-Little-Britain-star-Matt-Lucas-hangs-leaving-Facebook-suicide-note.html)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/10/22/article-0-0234A812000005DC-67_468x343.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 09:58 PM

Grief of EastEnders star Samantha Janus after father is found hanged

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:16 AM on 25th August 2009

EastEnders star Samantha Janus has been left devastated after her father was found hanged in an apparent suicide.

The distraught actress was pictured in floods of tears outside Noel Janus’s one-bedroom council flat in Brighton yesterday.
The 36-year-old was accompanied by her husband, actor Mark Womack, who said: 'She asks to be left alone to grieve with her family.'

Mr Janus, 60, was the brother of George Best’s ex-wife Angie and was believed to have been suffering from depression.

Neighbour John Austin, 63, said: 'As far as we knew he hanged himself.
'He was a nice chap and I got on with him. I saw him coming back with his dog on Friday evening.

'He seemed quite bright even though he had heart trouble.'

Samantha, who plays barmaid Ronnie in EastEnders is believed to have had a strained relationship with her father.

The former songwriter, who had worked with bands including Fleetwood Mac, left his wife and Samantha when she was just six years old.

He attended her wedding earlier this year, but was said to be upset when he was not included in any of the photographs from the event.

He described the snub as ‘a dagger to the heart.
'The whole of Sam's side of the family, including myself and her mother, have been completely left out of all the photos.

'They show only Mark's side of the family. It's like we weren't there - we don't exist.'

His daughter also refused to allow him to walk her down the aisle or make a speech on her big day.

Mr Janus had told neighbours he was suffering from heart trouble.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208603/Grief-EastEnders-star-Samantha-Janus-father-hanged.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208603/Grief-EastEnders-star-Samantha-Janus-father-hanged.html)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/08/24/article-1208603-062A19BA000005DC-739_233x354.jpg http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00472/SNN1903S_472298a.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 10:11 PM

David Carradine found dead in wardrobe of Bangkok hotel

The body of Carradine, 72, was discovered by a maid early on Thursday morning. He was in the Thai capital to shoot Stretch, his latest film.

A spokesman for the US Embassy confirmed that Carradine had died either late on Wednesday or early on Thursday, but said he could provide no further details.

Thai police told the BBC the 72-year-old was found by a hotel maid sitting in a wardrobe with a rope around his neck and other body parts.

The local Bangkok newspaper, The Nation, cited unidentified police sources as saying Carradine was believed to have committed suicide and had hanged himself with a curtain cord in his suite at the Park Nai Lert Hotel.

He failed to join fellow cast and crew members for dinner on Wednesday night but they did not raise the alarm, believing that he was resting.

Carradine was a leading member of a venerable Hollywood acting family that included his father, character actor John Carradine, and brother Keith.

In all, he appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby.

But he was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin priest traveling the 1800s American frontier West in the cult TV series Kung Fu, which aired in 1972-75.

He reprised the role in a mid-1980s TV movie and played Caine's grandson in the 1990s syndicated series Kung Fu: The Legend Continues.

He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino's two-part saga Kill Bill.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5444839/David-Carradine-found-dead-in-wardrobe-of-Bangkok-hotel.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5444839/David-Carradine-found-dead-in-wardrobe-of-Bangkok-hotel.html)

http://www.thailand-travelonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/hollywood-actor-david-carradine-dead-in-bangkok.jpg

his death (http://api.ning.com/files/MJ0leRMMpaODn3ZrozMqvVn5QWrhRnykKNBkWtK*xybPvBWi2h *2jZXT-xn8CV5xcHpdsTr23uCFAp6ziEvhPXFDo3s1s38Q/DavidCarradineHangingPhotopicturepic2.jpg)

http://www.islandcrisis.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/anon1244267631-bangkoknewspaperpublishesdavidcarrad877087_lg.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 10:28 PM

Filip Nikolic is dead

16-09-2009 15:02

Filip Nikolic, former leader of the boysband 2 Be 3, has gone forever. The singer & actor died this morning (September 16), according to his lawyer. He was 35.

The end of a 90's icon. Filip Nikolic, former member of 2 Be 3, died this morning, probably because of a drug overdose. For some months, he had psychologic problems & has been taken to hospital twice, according to his lawyer François Gibault, on Europe 1. He was 35 & had a daughter, Sasha, 4.

The singer was producing his first solo album, with lyrics written by Sylvain Moraillon (Patricia Kaas, Faudel, Michel Fugain & Daniel Lavoie) & Philippe Osman (Vanessa Paradis). Some of his songs, "Tim" & "Quelque Chose A Changé", were available on his official MySpace.

Back from Serbia, where he was filming "Sur La Route De La Terre Promise", back from theatres where he was playing "Drôle De Famille" with Maurice Risch & Julie Arnold, Filip Nikolic was going to write a book about his career. About his private life, the singer had left Valérie, his daughter's mother, after 10 years of relationship.

Filip Nikolic, a young gymnast, founded a band with his friends Frank & Adel & got signed to EMI France, releasing their first single, "Partir Un Jour". Everybody knew boysbands at the time (Worlds Apart, East 17 & Backstreet Boys), so France launched a French-speaking one. There started the beautiful adventure. Success came & their first single sold 800,000 copies. The 3 other singles from the album, "Toujours Là Pour Toi", "Donne" & "La Salsa" have been hits too. All tour dates have been sold out in Zénith, until Bercy in 1998. Following this success, AB Productions hired the 3 men for a TV series, "Pour Être Libre", aired on TF1. In 2000, after the release of their English album Excuse My French, it failed & the story was over. Filip Nikolic has played in "Simon Sez" with Dennis Rodman & Dan Cook, but also in the French film "Fragments". He also played in the TV series "Brigade Navarro", on TF1 too.

http://artists.letssingit.com/2-be-3-filip-nikolic-is-dead-96dsd/news/317384/1 (http://artists.letssingit.com/2-be-3-filip-nikolic-is-dead-96dsd/news/317384/1)

http://www.christophe.benazeth-guillamon.com/media/01/02/185132550.jpg http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_NKIsliJFfus/SrEbYxkzagI/AAAAAAAABBw/8c6LjgrVBoY/s400/filip-nikolic.jpg http://cache.20minutes.fr/img/photos/20mn/2009-09/2009-09-16/article_2be3.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 11:10 PM

DJ AM found dead in New York apartment
Adam Goldstein had openly discussed history of drug addiction

Tim Boyles / Getty Images
DJ AM, whose real name was Adam Goldstein, had openly discussed past addictions to crack cocaine, Ecstasy and other drugs, addictions so bad he once tried to commit suicide by shooting himself in the head — but the gun jammed.

updated 12:58 p.m. ET Aug. 29, 2009
NEW YORK - DJ AM, the celebrity disc jockey who publicly acknowledged his history of drug addiction and had filmed a reality show in which he offered to help other addicts, was found dead in his apartment. He was 36.

Police found a crack pipe and prescription pills in the Manhattan apartment, said a law enforcement official, who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing. Paramedics had to break down the door before they found him, shirtless and wearing sweatpants, in his bed around 5:20 p.m. on Friday, the official said.

A friend had called police to say he was unable to get into the home in the trendy SoHo neighborhood. There was no evidence of foul play, and a medical examiner will determine the cause of death.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32602310/ns/entertainment-music/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32602310/ns/entertainment-music/)

http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200809/r294711_1265326.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 11:36 PM

I am very sorry for little Ivan. :(

David Cameron's first born dies

http://www.independent.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00139/cameron1_139075t.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-disabled-son-dies-1631548.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-camerons-disabled-son-dies-1631548.html)

Gordon Brown's first born dies

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42984000/jpg/_42984089_familly_other406.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6701961.stm# (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6701961.stm#)

John Travolta's first born dies

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/276/68/449296076_Y5kf7-M.0.0.0x0.400x301.jpeg

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/01/02/jett-travolta-dead-john-travolta-son/ (http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/01/02/jett-travolta-dead-john-travolta-son/)

Kym Marsh's and Jamie Lomas's first born dies

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/12/article-1143183-037D9ADA000005DC-232_468x441.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1143183/Coronation-Street-star-Kym-Marsh-devastated-death-premature-baby.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1143183/Coronation-Street-star-Kym-Marsh-devastated-death-premature-baby.html)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/soaps/article2239868.ece (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/soaps/article2239868.ece)

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lordofangels

16-10-2009, 11:44 PM

Great posts sithnemesis (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=9917),

Suicides? More like sacrafises (sp)

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 11:45 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_en_ot/eu_france_obit_gordon (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090521/ap_en_ot/eu_france_obit_gordon)

By JEAN-PIERRE VERGES, Associated Press Writer Jean-pierre Verges, Associated Press Writer – Thu May 21, 1:42 pm ET
PARIS – British actress Lucy Gordon, who appeared in "Spider-Man 3," was found dead in her Paris apartment after apparently committing suicide, French police said Thursday. She was 28.

http://www.htzfm.com/files/htzfm/images/lucy%20gordon.jpg

An autopsy has been ordered to determine the cause of death, though it appeared to be a suicide, said an official with the Paris police headquarters. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of police agency policy, gave no details.

Gordon, who would have turned 29 on Friday, appeared in a dozen films, including as reporter Jennifer Dugan in "Spider-Man 3." She portrays British singer and actress Jane Birkin in an upcoming biopic about Serge Gainsbourg.

Gordon's father said the death was a "complete shock."

Speaking from the family's home in Oxford, Richard Gordon told Britain's Press Association that his daughter was "a natural actress all her life, since she was about 2."

"She's always loved being on stage and in front of the camera and she has kept all her naturalness and charm all the way through. She has been the most beautiful daughter. We are obviously devastated."

He said she loved her latest role, in the Gainsbourg film, and thought the cast was "wonderfully creative and supportive."

He added that his daughter spent much of her childhood and her summer vacations in France and was bilingual. She recently moved to Paris after living in New York.

Gordon's agents did not return phone calls seeking comment Thursday.

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Last Year

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Actor Heath Ledger was found dead Tuesday of a possible drug overdose in a Lower Manhattan apartment, the New York Police Department said.

Heath Ledger was unresponsive when a housekeeper found him in a Manhattan apartment Tuesday.

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/22/heath.ledger.dead/art.ledger.obit.gi.jpg The Academy Award-nominated actor was 28.

Ledger was found naked and unresponsive, facedown on the floor at the foot of his bed by a housekeeper trying to wake him for an appointment with a masseuse, said police spokesman Paul Browne.

"Pills were found in the vicinity of the bed," he told CNN.

"This is being looked at as a possible overdose, but that is not confirmed yet."

Browne later told reporters some prescription medications were found in the room, including sleeping pills.

But he stressed police have made no determination of the cause of Ledger's death -- that would be done by the medical examiner.

He said the pills were not "scattered about."

No note was found and there was no indication of foul play, Browne said. Ledger was found at about 3 p.m., and was pronounced dead at the scene by emergency personnel about 3:30 p.m.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/22/heath.ledger.dead/index.html (http://edition.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/22/heath.ledger.dead/index.html)

http://olivier.quenechdu.free.fr/spip/IMG/jpg/lucy-gordon.jpg

sithnemesis

16-10-2009, 11:53 PM

Great posts sithnemesis (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=9917),

Suicides? More like sacrafises (sp)

Thanks lordofangels :)

Very Suicided !!!

steevo

17-10-2009, 12:12 AM

Cheers sithnemesis, very interesting posts.

1971

17-10-2009, 01:26 PM

seaweed

17-10-2009, 02:26 PM

Listen to the lyrics at 2:44 :eek: sounds like 'Stephen Gatley we love you!'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOIINRlDqjo&feature=PlayList&p=6EF3F0E0115902BB&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ADQJeCgIY

Oh, my god, it really does!

Is this another example of forewarning of a future sacrifice? After all, he has proved to be extremely well-loved by the public in the light of his death, and the best sacrifice is always the most prized subject.

91181

17-10-2009, 02:42 PM

Cheers sithnemesis, very interesting posts.

I second that.. Good stuff..

seaweed

17-10-2009, 09:26 PM

I second that.. Good stuff..

I third it :)

boy better know

19-10-2009, 02:08 AM

I love how you just ignore the suggestion to bring it back on topic...

Stephen Gately's death continues to be mulled over in the news and it looks ever less likely that it was a "gay sex game gone wrong" as alleged on this forum almost immediately. However it does sound like Stephen was in an open relationship. Full story here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2679145/Bulgarian-Georgi-Petrov-Dochev-says-he-woke-up-to-find-Stephen-Gately-dead-after-a-wild-night-partying-with-him-and-husband-Andy-Cowles.html

He went back to the room with his boyfriend and a gay bulgarian.

mrerisian

19-10-2009, 09:54 PM

He went back to the room with his boyfriend and a gay bulgarian.

You should write for The Daily Fail.

pipsicle

20-10-2009, 06:40 PM

Gay, straight, the death is still unexplained IMO.

sithnemesis

21-10-2009, 11:34 PM

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/ronantattooPA_450x535.jpg

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/shanetattooPA_450x560.jpg

Ronan Keating and his Boyzone bandmates have had tattoos to mark the death of Stephen Gately.
Keating's tribute to his former bandmate was just visible as he appeared at Majorca's Palma Airport today, before accompanying the coffin home to Dublin.

The devastated group arrived in Dublin Airport this afternoon.

As the visibly upset singer spoke, the numbers "76 09" were apparent beneath his T-shirt sleeve.

http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?Boyzones_tattoo_tribute_to_Stephen_Ga tely&in_article_id=753620&in_page_id=7 (http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?Boyzones_tattoo_tribute_to_Stephen_Ga tely&in_article_id=753620&in_page_id=7)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/16/article-1220657-06D8928E000005DC-248_468x533.jpg