The Most Important Video Ever - All Watch

[kashmirz]

Watch! now that i have your attention

i couldent upload this to putfile or you tube, kept getting errors, fuck sake

http://www.livevideo.com/video/9369994245984A119B1BFCCC095B5CF9/gggggggg.aspx

[hagbard_celine]

Is that you? Very cool. You're like an Australian John White.:D

You make some good points. It's better to say that we're interested in some of David Icke's stuff than to say "I'm a David Icke supporter". I for instance like David a lot, but I also pay attention to what Alan Wattt says. It's only by making a synthesis of all the inforamtion that you come across, regardless of the source, that you think is right, or what feels right to you.

[hagbard_celine]

I've finished watching it. I think that you're assessment of forum memebrs is unfair. It may be true in some cases, but certainly not all or even most. What may look like just talk-talk-talk, is for many of us just a striving for companionship; or at least that's a distinct impression I got. there is a sizable vallage of members, a hundred or more people who contribute regularly, but this village is spread all over the world. In terms of population densisty, there are many miles between us all. the spaces between us are filled with other people who don't alweays see our point of view. Many of them are hostile toards us. most we can't even begin to discuss this stuff with. It can get a bit lonely out there. So when it looks like we're just chatting and shooting the shit, it's just that. Like what people do in a pub! When push comes to shove most of us will do the right thing and take action. Many of us already are.

Take care,

Love and light in the true sense of the word!:)

[soglad]

Wow mate! That was something amazing and spoke my mind completely. I agree with you completely on the circular arguing motion that goes on here and how it holds us back, hence I don't even get involved. I just talk about love orientated things. Having come to sense of the bullshit of the world I don't need to keep revising and revising. I don't use the 9/11 section or Illuminati section of these forums (bar to check up since I mod) because I don't care. I know all about it, no need to keep going through it.

As for doing something I 100% agree. I have made serious big plans for myself and a few others on the forum that will take a few months until I get to do it so I'm spending my time on the forum up until then. But they're HUGE plans of living without the system and being self sufficient that I won't go into great detail. But I'm not just "sitting back" and convincing myself I'm doing good.

Again, amazing video and you should honestly speak in public.




Love & Peace.

Soglad

[steevo]

Hi Kashmirz what you said in the video is right. Too much talk not enough action. That is the reality whether we like to hear it said or not, although this forum is great for passing on the information we have to others.

We do waste alot of time on here discussing stuff but just like your video it can inspire us to make the necessary moves and it is informative to others who want more information.

I personally believe that we, as people, need other people for moral support on the road ahead, that is why i am here on this forum.

I want to meet and discuss this stuff and act upon it, the most I do at the moment is try to spread the word and distance myself from the system as much as I can.

The bottom line is I wanna meet people who believe the same stuff cos it's very frustrating discussing this stuff with just your nearest and dearest who havent reached "enlightenment" yet. And I dont just wanna discuss it I wanna actively do what's right. I think we need to have friends who understand and share the same goals.

I liked the honesty of the video. The stuff that may have "appeared" negative in your video (regarding the people in this forum) were sort of home-truths and I liked that :)

[kashmirz]

Thank you for your words on the video, understand my intent was not to undermine those that are doing something, i was well aware going into it that i may be perceived as doing so, but merely to try and fuel that more whilst also at the same time addressing the circle of hate we have growing :)

cheers

[revolutionary_jam]

brillian video from what I've seen so far! Thanks,

I'll watch the rest of it soon when I get a chance

[woghd]

Not bad at all!

You are quite a good speaker, you could do this for a living.

Archangel

[llogun]

Spot on , too much talk no action, how far down the line do we go before we do something together whatever that may be. Too many comfort zones at risk I think. The illuminati killed millions in world war 1 and 2 and when the times right we would be on the list next when we start refusing a micro chip. Things are getting worse by the day but no worrys just a coincidance lets start a thread about flowers.
We are a army of people who know the truth and together we can make a differance. On our own we havent got a chance. There is a saying, become a doer of the word and not a hearer, doers get things done.

[sirjohnthebadji]

Watched it. I just drop in here now and then, principally to get badge ideas. But that was a really energizing peroration. Thanks.

[revolutionary_jam]

Any suggestions of what we should do?

[john white]

Watch! now that i have your attention

i couldent upload this to putfile or you tube, kept getting errors, fuck sake

http://www.livevideo.com/video/9369994245984A119B1BFCCC095B5CF9/gggggggg.aspx

Nice one mate: express yourself

Just recently I've passed 2 years of being on the net: I certainly dont expect to be on the net forever:

I know you know that everything you have said to others is also what you are saying to yourself. I say it to myself to: and I try to live it. Its what we are here to do: to live

Re; forums. Of course. Forums are mind, round and round is what mind does

As such they have their uses: but dont "solve" anything: only consciousness can do that, as only consciousness creates and makes choices

You see it: your not alone in seeing it: your choosing it: your not alone in choosing it

And towards those who dont see it (yet!) and dont choose it (yet!): Compassion, IMVHO, is the way

Afterall, everyone is us: we are all each other

Look forward to your next vid Kashmirz! I appreciated your thoughts

[soglad]

Well, I don't want to tell people how to live, but my personal theory is to be completely self-sufficient and environmentally friendly. I have big plans for the next few months that involves such things and I'm only saving up my money to do it in the meantime. Don't apply yourself to things you know are false! Like ridiculous NON-NEEDED jobs that people are convinced are what we are supposed to do.

Working in a glue factory, is not a "real job". Working in an office doing paperwork is not a "real job". Working the stock markets is not a "real job". Our jobs are done for us by nature, and we neglect that and have been sent on the run to look for satisfaction by false means. Our TRUE job, is to live off nature and what she gives us. I want to work on a farm and be self sufficient and will have to leave this country to do so, so I will be. Very soon.

And the rest is expanding your consciousness my friend and being kind to yourself and everyone else you come across!

That's DOING something...



Love & Peace!

Soglad

[john white]

I want to work on a farm and be self sufficient and will have to leave this country to do so, so I will be. Very soon.


Where do you intend to go, if you can't do THAT on the Emerald Isle?

[soglad]

I can do that here, but unfortunately every bit of land here is regulated to hell and working on a farm here means that you HAVE to be payed through banks and gov with your earnings. Too much rain, and clouds, houses are IMPOSSIBLE to afford....Also, I've lost my liking for this country a long time ago and don't like where it or Europe is heading so, off to Australia with me! :D

[2013]

im sure there are lots of people who want to escape their lives and go back to nature in somewhere like say southern ireland , the thing is we spend lots of time trying to escape what we have and where we are .We might just have what we need without realising it .I have friends and family who have land and are doing it now self sufficient and growing more so by the day, good for them but if we do experience global or localised disasters then we cant be sure that we will be in the right place .Also a very good friend of mine who has always wanted to start a self sufficient community has always said that if the powers that be want the land you own they can just take it .What do we do turn your plough shears back into swords .Animal farm ? If thoughts create reality ? then thoughts are relevant here ,and maybe if it all breaks down then maybe thats when we can start to go back to the land and start again living in the right way :DThe thing is we all belieive we are right and for us we are because it is who we are at this point in time and space but any ideas beliefs we have wether others share them or not does not prove that they are right .If we experience near death or messages from beyond the grave or aline contact channelled or otherwise that doest prove that it exists we are experiencing that here and now in our conciousness.If we are all one mind experienceing itself then our thoughts are what creates this hologram so by expanding them and bouncing ideas off each other / ourselves here helps to awaken us more to our true nature if time is jsut an illusion the n does it matter how long it takes :confused:

[sirjohnthebadji]

Well,


Here's some spare memes, offered in friendship (communality?) garnered from this thread. All to be into one-off badges that will be launched into the noosphere.

ASSEMBLING
SANITY








No act
of kindness, no
matter how small,
is ever wasted






If you always
do what you've
always done then
you'll always get
what you've
always got
[/CENTER]






Thinking of
what one does
not have, manifests
itself in the perpetuation
of not having




Love
Yourself More
Than Money[/CENTER]





Squeegee your
third-fucking-eye

(Bill Hicks)





SLAVEMASON











JUMP
AND THE NET
APPEARS













HOLY
FUCKING SHIT
I COULD
BE WRONG









COG IN
THE SYSTEM?






FROM
THERE MY
MEMORY SORT
OF LAPSES










FASHIONABLY
UNHYGIENIC






LOCAL
DRUNK


[/CENTER]

[soglad]

LOCAL
DRUNK




Is that because I'm Irish? :o



Love & Peace.

Soglad

[2013]

Im sure it isnt alcohol exists in all cultures , if you type two handed does that mean your stereotyping ? :D

[zigzagz]

Spot on , too much talk no action, how far down the line do we go before we do something together whatever that may be. Too many comfort zones at risk I think. The illuminati killed millions in world war 1 and 2 and when the times right we would be on the list next when we start refusing a micro chip. Things are getting worse by the day but no worrys just a coincidance lets start a thread about flowers.
We are a army of people who know the truth and together we can make a differance. On our own we havent got a chance. There is a saying, become a doer of the word and not a hearer, doers get things done.

If you decide to fight them know this...you are only fighting a battle that they programmed you to fight all battles here on this planet in this dimension are pre-programmed this latest world wide exposition of debauchery is all a part of their plan.

See the truth-the whole truth cannot be seen from this dimension nor can it be explained in this dimension to get to the REAL battle you must first look inside yourself, improve yourself become your true higher self then you will see where the real fight has been all along, please don't die in fear and anger in the midst of a staged battle, the state of fear and anger involved in battle here is what allows them to reclaim your soul and start you back on your blind journey again...find the whole truth- experience some other dimensions, have some OOBE's, meditate on seeing the 11th dimension; then if you still want to fight by all means fight but know what it is you are getting into...JMHO

[2013]

Well,


i like this one
HOLY
FUCKING SHIT
I COULD
BE WRONG



and then

FROM
THERE MY
MEMORY SORT
OF LAPSES
:D:eek:


[/CENTER]



































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[sirjohnthebadji]

Is that because I'm Irish? :o



Love & Peace.

Soglad


No not you personally, would be

LOCAL
DRUNK


(green, obviously)

[sirjohnthebadji]

Drink, Drank, Drunk, the guy who started this thread had a great rant. I predict it will run and run, particularly after I introduce you people to The Psychotropon, which has been specifically designed to incorporate such insights.

Hasta La Vista, Boro Da.

Snore snore snore

Back on Monday.







http://www.parallel-youniversity.com/fraser/















ASSEMBLING
SANITY








No act
of kindness, no
matter how small,
is ever wasted






If you always
do what you've
always done then
you'll always get
what you've
always got







Thinking of
what one does
not have, manifests
itself in the perpetuation
of not having




Love
Yourself More
Than Money





Squeegee your third-fucking-eye

(Bill Hicks)





SLAVEMASON






JUMP
AND THE NET
APPEARS






HOLY
FUCKING SHIT
I COULD
BE WRONG



COG IN THE SYSTEM?



FROM
THERE MY
MEMORY SORT
OF LAPSES






FASHIONABLY
UNHYGIENIC



LOCAL
DRUNK

[kashmirz]

I just woke up, i must say that i appreciate the kind words.

I am refining my techniques as time goes on, i had alot of knowledge on the matter told to me during the eclipse the other day, that is partially why i was compelled to make this film, i didn't particularly wish to do it as i didn't want to seem attention whoring however it was necessary so it had to be done.

Zigzagz , your quite right , fighting them in this realm does nothing, but i don't fight them here :)

[john white]

i had alot of knowledge on the matter told to me during the eclipse the other day

Now that IS cool!

Tell us more: this is a good thing to talk about!

[llogun]

If you decide to fight them know this...you are only fighting a battle that they programmed you to fight all battles here on this planet in this dimension are pre-programmed this latest world wide exposition of debauchery is all a part of their plan.

See the truth-the whole truth cannot be seen from this dimension nor can it be explained in this dimension to get to the REAL battle you must first look inside yourself, improve yourself become your true higher self then you will see where the real fight has been all along, please don't die in fear and anger in the midst of a staged battle, the state of fear and anger involved in battle here is what allows them to reclaim your soul and start you back on your blind journey again...find the whole truth- experience some other dimensions, have some OOBE's, meditate on seeing the 11th dimension; then if you still want to fight by all means fight but know what it is you are getting into...JMHOI never mentioned the word fight and i cant see the point in going into other dimensions when there is need to sort this one out first

[i_am]

Hey kashmirz

How did one so young in earth years get to be so smart?

hmmm! Guess I just answered that :p

Earth years as opposed to the infinite consciousnss that we are :)

Well done!

[zigzagz]

I never mentioned the word fight and i cant see the point in going into other dimensions when there is need to sort this one out first

It was implied...not to mention I used the qualifier IF....so if you are looking for an argument you are looking in the wrong place it just won't happen with me...sorry...but I am totally open to having a nice civil difference of opinion.

If you are looking to sort this reality out you are looking to be unfufilled and miserable for a long time, you can only sort yourself out...what you are suggesting is like going into a casino and trying clean up all the booze and gambling because of your gambling/alchohol addiction this is their matrix you choose to participate in it for your own reasons(to help others out, to learn, to grow whatever your personal reasons are).

Eventually you will be able to create your own reality if you wish to(as you were able to create your own reality when you chose to come here) but this reality is theirs and as far as I am concerned they can have it I am just trying to assist in freeing those minds which are ready to be freed.

[william_mac]

What are people going to do if they don't have something to combat? No matter what that something be; including issues on these forums. That's the main thing, I don't have an answer for it, but that's just the way it is. Try as I may to run the situation across in my head, I think that people wouldn't know what to do, we thrive off of conflict. I'd like to think I'm different, but I'm trying the best I can to fight for the truth, blah blah blah, but if that were unnecessary, I'm not sure how I would react, or live, or if I would willingly seek out or create confrontation.

Either way, it's not a big deal. It's OK if people do what they do on here, silly as it may be. Doesn't really matter.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[zigzagz]

What are people going to do if they don't have something to combat?


-William
www.William-Mac.com

Create? Teach? Learn? Love? Grow? Bond? Share Information? Celebrate Differences of Opinions? I can think of at least million things to do besides combat...this reality is showing you the worst side of people don't get too wrapped up in that this is only one of an infinite number of perspectives...

[william_mac]

Hah, I'm going to vote a short video response to this and post it tomorrow for fun. I have a few rebuffings to make concerning this video. I agree with everything you said, but I'd like to give a different take by saying "we're taking ourselves too seriously" and so are you. And I'll explain. I dig it though, man.



-William
www.William-mac.com

[llogun]

It was implied...not to mention I used the qualifier IF....so if you are looking for an argument you are looking in the wrong place it just won't happen with me...sorry...but I am totally open to having a nice civil difference of opinion.

If you are looking to sort this reality out you are looking to be unfufilled and miserable for a long time, you can only sort yourself out...what you are suggesting is like going into a casino and trying clean up all the booze and gambling because of your gambling/alchohol addiction this is their matrix you choose to participate in it for your own reasons(to help others out, to learn, to grow whatever your personal reasons are).

Eventually you will be able to create your own reality if you wish to(as you were able to create your own reality when you chose to come here) but this reality is theirs and as far as I am concerned they can have it I am just trying to assist in freeing those minds which are ready to be freed.

Im not looking for a augument and im not a miserable and i am fullfilled. The thing is i must be able to see something you cant, the same i cant see what you see we must be reading diffrant books but never mind time will tell.

[zigzagz]

Im not looking for a augument and im not a miserable and i am fullfilled. The thing is i must be able to see something you cant, the same i cant see what you see we must be reading diffrant books but never mind time will tell.

Just wondering what do you plan on doing to sort this reality out? Because if you got any ideas besided self preparation I am open to them.

[barbitone]

I like the way the vid starts....:D

http://************************.org/files/infinitelove/smilies/bong.gif

[barbitone]

Isn't it funny Kash, that in this thread you've created, containing a vid which features you, passionately speaking your mind on the subject of this forum and the mis-use there of.......we have Zigzagz and llogan demonstrating your point for us. :D lol

[zigzagz]

Isn't it funny Kash, that in this thread you've created, containing a vid which features you, passionately speaking your mind on the subject of this forum and the mis-use there of.......we have Zigzagz and llogan demonstrating your point for us. :D lol

I am very sorry you must put down others on the internet instead of freely exchanging ideas but your criticism will not stop me from expressing myself

[llogun]

Just wondering what do you plan on doing to sort this reality out? Because if you got any ideas besided self preparation I am open to them.

My plan is the same as your plan this system is going down hill fast but how long do we keep talking about these things how could i speak to you if the internet was taken down how could we meet up if i dont know where you are.As a big group of people we should have things in place for when they happen because they will. Millions of people believe jesus christ is coming to save the day. This is one of the biggest lies told for 1000s of years. He never turns up and this is the illuminati trump card. As david icke as said, we human beings have got to mass together so the few cant control the many. But we need to have things in place and i dont mean fighting. I tryed to organise a meeting a few months ago. One person me and my son turned up out of all the people that said they would but thats past im looking forword the foarm is one tool to communicate but we need many tools for when one goes you still have others.

[zigzagz]

My plan is the same as your plan this system is going down hill fast but how long do we keep talking about these things how could i speak to you if the internet was taken down how could we meet up if i dont know where you are.As a big group of people we should have things in place for when they happen because they will. Millions of people believe jesus christ is coming to save the day. This is one of the biggest lies told for 1000s of years. He never turns up and this is the illuminati trump card. As david icke as said, we human beings have got to mass together so the few cant control the many. But we need to have things in place and i dont mean fighting. I tryed to organise a meeting a few months ago. One person me and my son turned up out of all the people that said they would but thats past im looking forword the foarm is one tool to communicate but we need many tools for when one goes you still have others.

Exactly, my point is that "dimension shifting" is the ultimate form of communication and the place where all enlightened people are meeting up is another dimension/frequency/level of reality....in my opinion the universe is like a big match-maker it doesn't match you to what you want it matches you to what you are therefore self improvement is the catalyst for shifting dimensions...all the "tools" we will need will be spiritual/mental/emotional not physical as you think of physical because what you think of as physical doesn't actually exist so what good are imaginary tools...

[barbitone]

I am very sorry you must put down others on the internet instead of freely exchanging ideas but your criticism will not stop me from expressing myself

I wasn't doing no such thing bro,chill, just an observation is it not? Are you not demonstrating the exact opposite of the critical point of this mans thread\video he has posted? Did you watch it all?

Isn't this moment a catalyst to change? A moment for self improvement?

Just talking mate......

:D
Peace.

[2013]

Hey i agree with JW can we have more on the insights you gained during the eclipse , seeing as we have a solar one coming up in 2 weeks tiem as well we stand between the two , insights flowing all over the place. I dreamt mike tyson lived by my mum and was in good shape training and ready to fight again but this time his head /life was sorted and he seemed happy , being at my mothers and him being cancerian like me (Thats where the similarity ends) i took it as me being in shape for what was to come on another level , it was tysons birthday inthe dream 30th june and riddick bowewas there as well along with apart of actors next door playing charades ? that says it all really :D Dont fight be prepared for the fight by being the best you can be on all levels i interpret it as, 10 /11 years ago i had a vision of a rip in the fabric of this space/ time and dark clothed horsemen riding thru at the time i said they whoever they where where breaking thru in an effort to push their agenda .seemed appropriate to add that .

[john white]

Hey i agree with JW can we have more on the insights you gained during the eclipse , seeing as we have a solar one coming up in 2 weeks tiem as well we stand between the two , insights flowing all over the place. I dreamt mike tyson lived by my mum and was in good shape training and ready to fight again but this time his head /life was sorted and he seemed happy , being at my mothers and him being cancerian like me (Thats where the similarity ends) i took it as me being in shape for what was to come on another level , it was tysons birthday inthe dream 30th june and riddick bowewas there as well along with apart of actors next door playing charades ? that says it all really :D Dont fight be prepared for the fight by being the best you can be on all levels i interpret it as, 10 /11 years ago i had a vision of a rip in the fabric of this space/ time and dark clothed horsemen riding thru at the time i said they whoever they where where breaking thru in an effort to push their agenda .seemed appropriate to add that .

I call it "Divine FM"

When I get "knowing" from the cosmos its like a complete "totalness" of information than unfolds as I seek to understand it.. its not words, or images, but a shape, a pattern of energy

I'm interested in how others experiance this, its something rarely talked about on forums

[zigzagz]

I wasn't doing no such thing bro,chill, just an observation is it not? Are you not demonstrating the exact opposite of the critical point of this mans thread\video he has posted? Did you watch it all?

Isn't this moment a catalyst to change? A moment for self improvement?

Just talking mate......

:D
Peace.

I disagree with you I am not proving any such point because I am not arguing or angry with anyone.

I have a different opinion than others but that is not arguing...its more like refining my belief system with the opinions of others. And I see this as self improvement NOT an energy stealing argument a constructive way to exchange ideas with others...incuding you....

In response to your original post you absolutely were trying to make yourself feel more enlightened than me and whomever I was disagreeing with by lowering our value that is a fact, the best thing you can do now is try and see why you needed to do that and try to stop yourself from doing it to others.

[william_mac]

Create? Teach? Learn? Love? Grow? Bond? Share Information? Celebrate Differences of Opinions? I can think of at least million things to do besides combat...this reality is showing you the worst side of people don't get too wrapped up in that this is only one of an infinite number of perspectives...

I just think people would be very bored... people now anyway, if they didn't have something to combat. Even I think I woudln't know how to handle it. I'm being honest with myself. I really don't know what I would do if we all suceeded and the world was at one and everything was neutral and OK.




-William

[steevo]

I just think people would be very bored... people now anyway, if they didn't have something to combat. Even I think I woudln't know how to handle it. I'm being honest with myself. I really don't know what I would do if we all suceeded and the world was at one and everything was neutral and OK.

Well I wouldnt be bored, I have loads of interests.

I am not on this forum for the fun of it, i am extremely concerned about what is going on in the world right now and we need to put it right so that we can all live in peace and harmony. When that day comes no-one will be more happier than me, bored...no way :)

[gremlin]

I would love to be in his situation, bet daddy is loaded;)

[zigzagz]

I just think people would be very bored... people now anyway, if they didn't have something to combat. Even I think I woudln't know how to handle it. I'm being honest with myself. I really don't know what I would do if we all suceeded and the world was at one and everything was neutral and OK.




-William

That is why this world here will never be the way you describe it(other than the fact that it totally is the way you described it now and always just not HERE in this five sense prison)...this is their matrix...they programmed it to be a certain way and that is the way it will be it is our choice whether or not we choose to participate.

Many people have been tricked into believing they do not have a choice and others choose to incarnate here to remind them they do have a choice.

[jagalman]

Man you are fucked!!! You are loosing your self!:eek:

Chillax dude! and stop screaming and can you plays stop saying the word fuck! yay

[jagalman]

Man i stoped watching this movie! you are a Frustrated person! Chillax dude! :eek: yay

[synergy777]

chillax, is mix of chill/relax, i had a lebanese teacher in new york who said that, is it a lebanese thing, jagal?

[jagalman]

chillax, is mix of chill/relax, i had a lebanese teacher in new york who said that, is it a lebanese thing, jagal?

Hehe! Yes it means to RELAX/CHILL, And i think it's a Lebanese thing! :D

ROFL

Have you seen the movie synergy! this dude is loosing control!!!

[anoninnyc]

nice video, but most important video ever????? false advertising mate

[kashmirz]

Hehe! Yes it means to RELAX/CHILL, And i think it's a Lebanese thing! :D

ROFL

Have you seen the movie synergy! this dude is loosing control!!!

You are used to meeting complacent people, i come from a very long life of study, and my resonance although in line with yours brother is completley different

as i went on to say, dont misplace my anger for actual anger, it is but my compassion as fuel that strives me forward.

I say again, you dont know the half of me my freind, but while people sit and talk i get things done.

anoninnyc yes it was false advertising :) intentionally so that you watched the video as i truly wished my message to be heard

Chillax and sit back with all that i know and can do ? not on your life :)

Inaction is not a solution, but i do appreciate your concern, even if it is based on misunderstanding perhaps

[william_mac]

That is why this world here will never be the way you describe it(other than the fact that it totally is the way you described it now and always just not HERE in this five sense prison)...this is their matrix...they programmed it to be a certain way and that is the way it will be it is our choice whether or not we choose to participate.

Many people have been tricked into believing they do not have a choice and others choose to incarnate here to remind them they do have a choice.

I know all of that. But seriously put yourself in the situation. Everything is OK, there is virtually little or no conflict, there is nothing to strive towards, work towards, struggle towards. There is nothing to do with our time except... do nothing.

I mean, I'm an artist, a filmmaker, and a writer of many forms (various types of journalism, fiction, and scriptwriting). Yet, I use all of these talents to promote peace in the world, tear people from their 9 to 5 reality, promote truth, expose the atrocities going on in other parts of the world and hidden parts of our own countries and states and communities, and I come up with stories for books and scripts and articles, as well as images for paintings.

Yet... all of these things that I spend my time doing, and that I feel lend some kind of meaning to my existence as a self-promoted warrior of truth, or some other title as equally lame, are spent attempting to influence as many people I can towards this common well-being of government by the people, education to prevent tyranny, and love/acceptance for all.

I wonder sometimes though. What happens if I -- we -- were to succeed. I mean, I would no longer have much use for creating stories for books and films that expose things and help people... because people are alright, and they know, and they don't need to be told anymore. And, as a person that is knowledgeable about his chosen industry, I can't fathom writing a fiction story that would be entertaining in the least if it weren't somehow touching on a commonly asked question, disdain, conflict, debate, or issue whether local, historical or global. Likewise, I'm certainly not the type to paint trees and oceans and shit, there are enough of those painters out there. So, what would I paint? What questions would I be attempting to provoke with the images if the answers were widespread and generally known as common sense.

It is pain, conflict, death, destruction, depression, overcoming obsticales, philosphical ideologies in a world wrought with wrong and so forth that make for stories and opinions and that provoke people to take sides on particular issues... etc. Yet... if there was none of that, and were generally no outstanding issues, and opinions were generally bound together in a universal selfless sense of love, mutual respect, and acceptance... then what in the hell would I be doing?

Now, I'm sure I'd figure something out. But, I'm not too prideful or scared to admit that I am inherently, in flesh and personality, scared to death of the thought. I would have no stories, no reasons for fervently struggling to accomplish some kind of goal... would basically make me... well, bored. I think that this is the same for almost all people, whether they admit it or not, people like conflict, even if the conflict they create is directed towards ending conflict.

I don't like to think about this too often, because it makes me want to kill myself or just lay down and stare at a wall until my heart gives out. It actually opens up the question that perhaps it's all meaningless in any spectrum at any time, and life is always going to go up and down like a roller coaster until the sun implodes. Which I'm actually sure it will.

Yet, I figure I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing because, for good or ill, It gives me some kind of personal meaning to my life and a reason to wake up in the morning.

See? it's a pretty interesting thing to wonder about.

So, I for one am just fine with debating. I like debating on here, it's the main reason I come. I like the news and stuff, because I may not of heard about it. But, god help me, I like stirring up a good heated debate. I like taking the opposite side of an issue, whether I particularly care about the issue or not, or agree with what most people are saying, and that is simply because I like taking the opposite side and exploring it and attempting to debate it... and to me, it's entertaining, healthy, fun, and important for these kinds of conflicts to go on even here in this forum.

The fact is, that you're doing the same thing. You're speaking out against something, and offering what you think is a solution. But, deep down inside I think you'll find yourself figuring that your solution is fairly much right, even if you're like me and try to convince yourself that you're open to all things. I mean, try as I may, I just think I'm probably right... even though I know I'm probably wrong.

I think to be in this kind of ironic convulsion and condradicting web dubbed "paradox" is to flow naturally with the energy of life in general. It's hard to wrap your brain around, I mean I can't really explain how I mean this. But, life in nature, in energy, and in universe contradicts itself and morals, beliefs, opinions, and so on have no place because it's never going to make sense. And, to think that there is some kind of solution for complete oneness is in and of itself an exercise in futality. For, what makes life one with itself is it's strange seperations and ironies within itself that somehow PERFECTLY work out. So, here we have a system full of the same thing, and it somehow just works out OK as a sort of self-sustaining habitat and equilibriam. Like digging a hole, filling it with water, and waiting for the birds to carry over fish eggs due to the fact that they just ate a fish, and for mosquitos to brood as larvie that will suck our blood, and for frogs to eat those mosquitos, and for snakes to eat the frogs, and for eagles to eat the snakes, and algae to grow, and moss, and plants. And... just this crazy ironic cycle of surviving and natural hierarchy.

So... in my mind, this whole system can't really be solved, because it's self perpetuating. And if it ever were solved then that would be the point in which we were all dead, because that is the only time we're going to be in that type of existence. So really, all we can do is do what we feel is best for each other, but even that is going to differ. Likewise, all we WILL do is what we think is best for us, whether or not that be telling people what we think is best for them.

It's a very strange system, and it can not be calculated, figured, solved, or anything. Because, well, it's just going to keep going.

So, to concentrate on that whole perfect onness everybody get a long thing is just a bad idea and waste of time. Perhaps we should just enjoy the challenge, and the struggle of aiding in the world in which we are a part of now... even though it may go to pots once the generation dies off. Get rid of a New World Order, then some rich bastards will decide they want to do it again down the road. You know?



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[zigzagz]

I know all of that. But seriously put yourself in the situation. Everything is OK, there is virtually little or no conflict, there is nothing to strive towards, work towards, struggle towards. There is nothing to do with our time except... do nothing.

I mean, I'm an artist, a filmmaker, and a writer of many forms (various types of journalism, fiction, and scriptwriting). Yet, I use all of these talents to promote peace in the world, tear people from their 9 to 5 reality, promote truth, expose the atrocities going on in other parts of the world and hidden parts of our own countries and states and communities, and I come up with stories for books and scripts and articles, as well as images for paintings.

Yet... all of these things that I spend my time doing, and that I feel lend some kind of meaning to my existence as a self-promoted warrior of truth, or some other title as equally lame, are spent attempting to influence as many people I can towards this common well-being of government by the people, education to prevent tyranny, and love/acceptance for all.

I wonder sometimes though. What happens if I -- we -- were to succeed. I mean, I would no longer have much use for creating stories for books and films that expose things and help people... because people are alright, and they know, and they don't need to be told anymore. And, as a person that is knowledgeable about his chosen industry, I can't fathom writing a fiction story that would be entertaining in the least if it weren't somehow touching on a commonly asked question, disdain, conflict, debate, or issue whether local, historical or global. Likewise, I'm certainly not the type to paint trees and oceans and shit, there are enough of those painters out there. So, what would I paint? What questions would I be attempting to provoke with the images if the answers were widespread and generally known as common sense.

It is pain, conflict, death, destruction, depression, overcoming obsticales, philosphical ideologies in a world wrought with wrong and so forth that make for stories and opinions and that provoke people to take sides on particular issues... etc. Yet... if there was none of that, and were generally no outstanding issues, and opinions were generally bound together in a universal selfless sense of love, mutual respect, and acceptance... then what in the hell would I be doing?

Now, I'm sure I'd figure something out. But, I'm not too prideful or scared to admit that I am inherently, in flesh and personality, scared to death of the thought. I would have no stories, no reasons for fervently struggling to accomplish some kind of goal... would basically make me... well, bored. I think that this is the same for almost all people, whether they admit it or not, people like conflict, even if the conflict they create is directed towards ending conflict.

I don't like to think about this too often, because it makes me want to kill myself or just lay down and stare at a wall until my heart gives out. It actually opens up the question that perhaps it's all meaningless in any spectrum at any time, and life is always going to go up and down like a roller coaster until the sun implodes. Which I'm actually sure it will.

Yet, I figure I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing because, for good or ill, It gives me some kind of personal meaning to my life and a reason to wake up in the morning.

See? it's a pretty interesting thing to wonder about.

So, I for one am just fine with debating. I like debating on here, it's the main reason I come. I like the news and stuff, because I may not of heard about it. But, god help me, I like stirring up a good heated debate. I like taking the opposite side of an issue, whether I particularly care about the issue or not, or agree with what most people are saying, and that is simply because I like taking the opposite side and exploring it and attempting to debate it... and to me, it's entertaining, healthy, fun, and important for these kinds of conflicts to go on even here in this forum.

The fact is, that you're doing the same thing. You're speaking out against something, and offering what you think is a solution. But, deep down inside I think you'll find yourself figuring that your solution is fairly much right, even if you're like me and try to convince yourself that you're open to all things. I mean, try as I may, I just think I'm probably right... even though I know I'm probably wrong.

I think to be in this kind of ironic convulsion and condradicting web dubbed "paradox" is to flow naturally with the energy of life in general. It's hard to wrap your brain around, I mean I can't really explain how I mean this. But, life in nature, in energy, and in universe contradicts itself and morals, beliefs, opinions, and so on have no place because it's never going to make sense. And, to think that there is some kind of solution for complete oneness is in and of itself an exercise in futality. For, what makes life one with itself is it's strange seperations and ironies within itself that somehow PERFECTLY work out. So, here we have a system full of the same thing, and it somehow just works out OK as a sort of self-sustaining habitat and equilibriam. Like digging a hole, filling it with water, and waiting for the birds to carry over fish eggs due to the fact that they just ate a fish, and for mosquitos to brood as larvie that will suck our blood, and for frogs to eat those mosquitos, and for snakes to eat the frogs, and for eagles to eat the snakes, and algae to grow, and moss, and plants. And... just this crazy ironic cycle of surviving and natural hierarchy.

So... in my mind, this whole system can't really be solved, because it's self perpetuating. And if it ever were solved then that would be the point in which we were all dead, because that is the only time we're going to be in that type of existence. So really, all we can do is do what we feel is best for each other, but even that is going to differ. Likewise, all we WILL do is what we think is best for us, whether or not that be telling people what we think is best for them.

It's a very strange system, and it can not be calculated, figured, solved, or anything. Because, well, it's just going to keep going.

So, to concentrate on that whole perfect onness everybody get a long thing is just a bad idea and waste of time. Perhaps we should just enjoy the challenge, and the struggle of aiding in the world in which we are a part of now... even though it may go to pots once the generation dies off. Get rid of a New World Order, then some rich bastards will decide they want to do it again down the road. You know?



-William
www.William-Mac.com

I disagree....I think that boredom is only a concept of the matrix... think about it this reality is not about "winning" you can't win a fixed game the house always wins and they are the house the only thing you can do is learn not to gamble...

This world here is THEIR matrix you can't fix something that is not broken it is functioning just as it is designed to...

The only thing we can do here is wake ourselves up and try to assist others that are ready to be woken up as well...jmho

[william_mac]

I disagree....I think that boredom is only a concept of the matrix... think about it this reality is not about "winning" you can't win a fixed game the house always wins and they are the house the only thing you can do is learn not to gamble...

This world here is THEIR matrix you can't fix something that is not broken it is functioning just as it is designed to...

The only thing we can do here is wake ourselves up and try to assist others that are ready to be woken up as well...jmho

See, I understand that menality. But, have you thought about what I said? And, if so, please tell me what we are supposed to wake up to. Meaning, what are we waking up to, and once we've woken up what are we supposed to have accomplished, or do?

I hear the terms "awakening" and "waking up" all of the time. And, it seems to primarily pertain to realizing that we are in a "matrix" and that we are confined within this false matrix of reality that leads us to believe that what we are doing, and what we perceive, is in reality false and that things do not need to be that way.

Well, I of course agree. However, the question is, once we realize that life does not need to be this way, are supposed to then make it some other way? I mean, really, what is this grand awakening supposed to really accomplish. Are we supposed to all of a sudden inherently know what this new system (because that is what it is) is to be?

I for one think that waking up and realizing that we're being controlled and that we're being manpulated, lied to, and thrust into an ever looping system doomed to repeat itself and make us slaves, cogs, and sprockets in a well-oiled self containing gerbil wheel in which we never get anywhere but turn the wheel that powers the machines for the elite, is only the middle point of waking up. I think that after we realize this we go through several stages of shock, anger, confusion, fatigue, and eventually we should just calm down.

We'll keep on doing what we're doing one way or the other. We'll step out of the wheel we're powering for the evil machine, and then step into another one that powers a machine of opposition, and once we destroy that "evil machine" and the fat rich men starve to death... then we'll find that we need to power a machine.

I think that to come to the full point of waking up is to start simple, become enslaved, realize we're enslaved, fight the enslavement, and then just become simple again in the knowledge that loving to the best of our knowledge of what love is is really all it's about. And, although we will continue, including myself, fighting the overwhelming and corrupt forces that be via education, media truth, and ideas of general well-being... the most important thing we can do is not fear, become anxious, or lose site of our humanity. Because simply paying a compliment to someone, enjoying the weather, or even feeling sad are all the best joys that come with waking up.

And the fact is that things aren't just going to change, and that people want to be in conflict... and I don't see how this is wrong. And I don't think it's wrong for me to do it. But at the end of the day, I would die for that other person, or even my enemy for that matter... because waking up is realizing the simple truth, which is ultimately the larger picture. That larger picture is that our only real true obligation in life is to love each other, but that certainly doesn't mean we can't argue with each other, or even combat each other, or any such thing. And that we will always be in conflict, we will always be protecting ourselves from what we percieve as evils.

There is no real answer. We just have to chill out and realize that it all may be utterly superfluous, and that positve change may not stick. It's OK though.



-William

[zigzagz]

See, I understand that menality. But, have you thought about what I said? And, if so, please tell me what we are supposed to wake up to. Meaning, what are we waking up to, and once we've woken up what are we supposed to have accomplished, or do?

I hear the terms "awakening" and "waking up" all of the time. And, it seems to primarily pertain to realizing that we are in a "matrix" and that we are confined within this false matrix of reality that leads us to believe that what we are doing, and what we perceive, is in reality false and that things do not need to be that way.

Well, I of course agree. However, the question is, once we realize that life does not need to be this way, are supposed to then make it some other way? I mean, really, what is this grand awakening supposed to really accomplish. Are we supposed to all of a sudden inherently know what this new system (because that is what it is) is to be?

I for one think that waking up and realizing that we're being controlled and that we're being manpulated, lied to, and thrust into an ever looping system doomed to repeat itself and make us slaves, cogs, and sprockets in a well-oiled self containing gerbil wheel in which we never get anywhere but turn the wheel that powers the machines for the elite, is only the middle point of waking up. I think that after we realize this we go through several stages of shock, anger, confusion, fatigue, and eventually we should just calm down.

We'll keep on doing what we're doing one way or the other. We'll step out of the wheel we're powering for the evil machine, and then step into another one that powers a machine of opposition, and once we destroy that "evil machine" and the fat rich men starve to death... then we'll find that we need to power a machine.

I think that to come to the full point of waking up is to start simple, become enslaved, realize we're enslaved, fight the enslavement, and then just become simple again in the knowledge that loving to the best of our knowledge of what love is is really all it's about. And, although we will continue, including myself, fighting the overwhelming and corrupt forces that be via education, media truth, and ideas of general well-being... the most important thing we can do is not fear, become anxious, or lose site of our humanity. Because simply paying a compliment to someone, enjoying the weather, or even feeling sad are all the best joys that come with waking up.

And the fact is that things aren't just going to change, and that people want to be in conflict... and I don't see how this is wrong. And I don't think it's wrong for me to do it. But at the end of the day, I would die for that other person, or even my enemy for that matter... because waking up is realizing the simple truth, which is ultimately the larger picture. That larger picture is that our only real true obligation in life is to love each other, but that certainly doesn't mean we can't argue with each other, or even combat each other, or any such thing. And that we will always be in conflict, we will always be protecting ourselves from what we percieve as evils.

There is no real answer. We just have to chill out and realize that it all may be utterly superfluous, and that positve change may not stick. It's OK though.



-William

What do you mean wake up to what? And there is no real answer? I am glad you understand my mentality because I just can't wrap my brain around yours...

I do agree it's OK though but there is so an answer(for everything) and the only thing to wake up to is reality (not this 5 sense prison real reality).

Acceptance and experiencing other dimensions to show you why you have let yourself be fooled into this 5 sense prison...the point is to see the truth once you see that then it really is OK and there really is an answer....have you ever even glimpsed another dimension besides this one? Have you ever taken anything like magic mushrooms lsd peyote or had a near death or "religious" experience?

Have you ever heard of the game Grand Theft Auto, if you don't like it then the thing to do is change the game disc in your machine not try to make the programmers change the game because the more you protest the worse the game will get....which is fine because there are way better games out there anyway...maybe thats a bad analogy but it is the best I could do lol

[kashmirz]

I disagree....I think that boredom is only a concept of the matrix... think about it this reality is not about "winning" you can't win a fixed game the house always wins and they are the house the only thing you can do is learn not to gamble...

This world here is THEIR matrix you can't fix something that is not broken it is functioning just as it is designed to...

The only thing we can do here is wake ourselves up and try to assist others that are ready to be woken up as well...jmho

Tell that to the ones i got rid of,

when my seal is finished, i am going to make a film JUST for you my freind, then perhaps you will understand.

[zigzagz]

Tell that to the ones i got rid of,

when my seal is finished, i am going to make a film JUST for you my freind, then perhaps you will understand.

I understand that you are caught up in a revolution...revolutions come and go in the matrix but the controllers are always in control(because if you really understand the truth you know our higher selves have no desire to control this prison)....a perfect metaphor is this forum I will probably be banned because it's the webmasters forum and I told him to fuck off not out of anger but because it is my opinion that he should fuck off and leave me alone so I am leaving this forum because he controls it....therefore he will leave me alone
Problem solved but as long as you post here you will play by his retarded rules which is your choice.
I may start posting on aurons http://************************.org/index.php but maybe not if he doesn't want me there because I told sean the webmaster here to fuck off....so if you make a video to help me understand post it there if I don't post there I will at least check in and read the posts.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8644&page=3

[Anders Lindman]

cogs, and sprockets in a well-oiled self containing gerbil wheel in which we never get anywhere but turn the wheel that powers the machines for the elite

It's not well-oiled. It runs with a huge amount of friction, and more and more sand is poured into it by the hour.

[kashmirz]

With all love and respect for you zigzag in COMPLETE honesty brother, you truly have no idea who or what i am, and no i am not open to publicaly talking on the manner.

Talk is talk yes, so i will show you in time, but know that you are perhaps misguided in your opinion of me.

I re iterate, no harsh feelings my friend.

Your comments on the webmaster, its not my place to say, to be frank the webmaster can do what he wants and sensor what he wants, if you are aware it is being done it should hold no consequence apon you.

either way truly this is not the appropriate place to discuss that i don't think

[zigzagz]

With all love and respect for you zigzag in COMPLETE honesty brother, you truly have no idea who or what i am, and no i am not open to publicaly talking on the manner.

Talk is talk yes, so i will show you in time, but know that you are perhaps misguided in your opinion of me.

I re iterate, no harsh feelings my friend.

Your comments on the webmaster, its not my place to say, to be frank the webmaster can do what he wants and sensor what he wants, if you are aware it is being done it should hold no consequence apon you.

either way truly this is not the appropriate place to discuss that i don't think

You are right this is not the appropriate place but if you don't want people knowing who you are you might not want to make and post videos...no harsh feelings on this end towards you either this will be my last post on this boards I have what I came here for...

[jagalman]

Inaction is not a solution, but i do appreciate your concern, even if it is based on misunderstanding perhaps

It's Not missunderstanding! It confuses me when i see you screaming! man you are depressed! chillax! and don't let the system make u loose control!

[kashmirz]

You are right this is not the appropriate place but if you don't want people knowing who you are you might not want to make and post videos...no harsh feelings on this end towards you either this will be my last post on this boards I have what I came here for...

Of course you have :) divide and conquer of course

I make videos because i have alot to say, and knowing my personal details is no reason for me not to do so... welcome to 2007 my friend, where it takes two seconds to make a video post and upload it as apposed to typing for two hours ;)

Ilusa veretch sispersanio elvite ;)

[lenejento]

Hi kashmirz

I kind of see what you mean and I liked what you said at the end "trust me, you know everything you need to know", I think this is what people actually find hard to trust, myself included, if you know what I mean, and so we continue to accumulate and discuss knowledge, when we already got all the wisdom we need inside, but we don't trust it, like you said about sitting on the edge of the cliff. We think we need all the external knowledge, the external truth, and for it to be completely precise (so we discuss), so that we will know exacly what to do about it. But we already know so much of the external truth, enough, more than most people on the planet, and yes it's damn overwhelming sometimes, and I'll be honest saying I have no idea what to do about it!

"I" don't know what to do, "I" feel very limited, but is this limitation true?

[sirjohnthebadji]

I like the way the vid starts....:D

http://************************.org/files/infinitelove/smilies/bong.gif



:eek: Is there an amazement emoticon?

[william_mac]

What do you mean wake up to what? And there is no real answer? I am glad you understand my mentality because I just can't wrap my brain around yours...

I do agree it's OK though but there is so an answer(for everything) and the only thing to wake up to is reality (not this 5 sense prison real reality).

Acceptance and experiencing other dimensions to show you why you have let yourself be fooled into this 5 sense prison...the point is to see the truth once you see that then it really is OK and there really is an answer....have you ever even glimpsed another dimension besides this one? Have you ever taken anything like magic mushrooms lsd peyote or had a near death or "religious" experience?

Have you ever heard of the game Grand Theft Auto, if you don't like it then the thing to do is change the game disc in your machine not try to make the programmers change the game because the more you protest the worse the game will get....which is fine because there are way better games out there anyway...maybe thats a bad analogy but it is the best I could do lol

Yeah, I know all of that. But, in the simplist way I can prove my point, I want you to clearly and concisely explain to me the truth you want us to wake up to, or the truth you are seeking to wake up to.

I hear "truth" and "wake up to the truth" and "5 sense prison" (all terms of which I understand completely) yet I don't see you, or many others, explaining them. I want to know if YOU know what you're talking about.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[william_mac]

It's not well-oiled. It runs with a huge amount of friction, and more and more sand is poured into it by the hour.

well if you go from the facet of a carefully contrived plan in which people are made to be perpetually slaving to power a looping wheel of pointlessness in order to continue the operations of an elite that don't have to worry about the people's scrutiny, then the fact that it's a whole lot of friction and hard work added onto the already pointless effort....then for the elite benefiting from the machine, it's pretty well-oiled, wouldn't you say? Well oiled, that is, by the majority of us human folks.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

[john white]

You are right this is not the appropriate place but if you don't want people knowing who you are you might not want to make and post videos...no harsh feelings on this end towards you either this will be my last post on this boards I have what I came here for...

Bye then! Thanks for stopping by :)

[e7304]

Well K ahmesriz that is a great video.

You are so right about the "conspiracy" community and how we think. I thought about doing something like this a awhile back but what you did is great.

A really good overall expose of what and how we "consiracy" people think.

Makes me wonder if we are totally controlled by the PTB. We have to admit that very powerful people are watching. And they wil do what soever to keep us DUMB.

..to be continued......

[steevo]

Yeah we do waste loads of time on here when we should be actively spreading the word. For example when we get into debates which go on for ages about whether Alex Jones and David Icke etc are one of "them", I am as guilty as the rest of 'em for discussing this pile of crap at length. What counts is what we do with the information NOT who said it, we all can filter out the BS. kashmirz said
"trust me, you know everything you need to know"


e7304 said
We have to admit that very powerful people are watching. And they wil do what soever to keep us DUMB.

I think that there are people on this forum who are planted here to "keep us dumb". I feel that I should not reply to their posts but if I do, then I will treat them with the same respect I do everyone else BUT I will not spend time discussing this BS.

NOW what can we do to spread the word ? :D

Check out the thread in the "What can we do" section entitled "A Leaflet to wake people up..."
I hope alot of us participate in THAT, but alas, there are not many people discussing it :(

[carlg1212]

Watch! now that i have your attention

i couldent upload this to putfile or you tube, kept getting errors, fuck sake

http://www.livevideo.com/video/9369994245984A119B1BFCCC095B5CF9/gggggggg.aspx

Cool.

[celtic isis]

I've finished watching it. I think that you're assessment of forum memebrs is unfair. It may be true in some cases, but certainly not all or even most. What may look like just talk-talk-talk, is for many of us just a striving for companionship; or at least that's a distinct impression I got. there is a sizable vallage of members, a hundred or more people who contribute regularly, but this village is spread all over the world. In terms of population densisty, there are many miles between us all. the spaces between us are filled with other people who don't alweays see our point of view. Many of them are hostile toards us. most we can't even begin to discuss this stuff with. It can get a bit lonely out there. So when it looks like we're just chatting and shooting the shit, it's just that. Like what people do in a pub! When push comes to shove most of us will do the right thing and take action. Many of us already are.

Take care,

Love and light in the true sense of the word!:)

very well said hagbard celine! :)

[celtic isis]

Watch! now that i have your attention

i couldent upload this to putfile or you tube, kept getting errors, fuck sake

http://www.livevideo.com/video/9369994245984A119B1BFCCC095B5CF9/gggggggg.aspx

YOURE FANTASTIC!!!!

I don't think i've ever encountered you before on here kashmirz :cool:

hehe you're like a mixture of tsarion and icke! Love your accent! you're almost hypnotic!

ok, i hear you, and i wonder this myself coming on this forum, particularly when i've had other members sugest i don't know anything abot "illuminati" symbolism etc when obviously i do seeing as i'm on the icke forum lol

When i come on here i do get completely overwhelmed cause there are so many conversations going on, which is fantastic but surely, as most of us on here are doing, we should come together to stop what we all know is happening deafeningly to us but silently to the sheeple...

Look, i don't think all the members of this forum are hopping on here willy nilly just talking about the same thing we know already...we're all still in the awakening process, we're all on different levels according to how long we've been on this journey for...of course now we're running out of time so maybe there sin't any time left to be pondering anymore...

i know i never give up trying to wake everyone i come into contact with about the agenda and why the world is the way it is. I never give up, never stop. I had a thread you can take a look at at the link in my signature which had almost 20, 000 people who viewed it who may never have come across this stuff before. I try and will never give up but it isn't easy. We all need to come back here to replenish ourselves, we're safer here, though lately not so much with all the bad feeling going on here lately!

You're a great speaker kashmirz, fair play to you for doing that vid and for sending that message out to us. We're all trying. I'll look out for you more on here now.

We need to get together on here and get the message out to the people, some innocent and some just plain ignorant who don't know of the agenda.

Any ideas guys?

I've said before i think th eonly way is through passing around DVDs cause i know most of the people i know wouldn't be hanging around on youtube etc, they just don't have the time. Whereas a FREE dvd they could just throw on...that would WORK. We need to get the word out quicker than ever and prepare the ground for what's to come.


The NWO is just on the horizon...