does anyone else here see "things as they are?"

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

i see matter as energy, does anyone else here have the same "eyes"

[soglad]

I'm starting to see it. I see fractals appear out of nowhere for split seconds and I always see energy aura around things. I'm just begining. I guess it's going to get stronger over time! :cool:


Love & Peace!

Soglad

[auron]

http://spectraleyes.com/albums/artworx/namaskar.jpg

http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/24573/2000149123179367988_rs.jpg

[soglad]

Those two pictures are so precious to me!




Love & Peace!

Soglad

[thoth]

I'm starting to see it. I see fractals appear out of nowhere for split seconds and I always see energy aura around things. I'm just begining. I guess it's going to get stronger over time! :cool:


Love & Peace!

Soglad

Really? Through meditation, I have been able to see the energy field around people when I look at them for long enough. How did you first start?

[thoth]

Sometimes I get flashes of 'other things'. Not sure what they are, but sometimes its like blurrs or balls of light. Not really sure at this point. Mediation has started to make me feel different.

[soglad]

Only recently to be honest. I haven't tried with people yet, I'm always to busy talking to them or listening to them to stare around them like a weirdo! But things definitely have auras. For example, I can see the aura on the PC monitor right now.


Love & Peace!

Soglad

[pumma]

i see matter as energy, does anyone else here have the same "eyes"

It's hard to explain, to put it simple... I see everything (if not thinking) as waves (material not beeing solid) like a slowly moving jelly > breathing > expanding and going in different directions and then to its original shape etc.

[_underscore_]

Earlier this week _underscore_ was sitting in his living room, having a little discussion with his wife. At this time, _underscore_ saw a very interesting display of light on his ceiling. It wasn't a reflection or anything such, it was a very bright sparkling of light that moved 360 degrees in a clockwise motion, and then was gone (perhaps 3inch in diameter, very bright and sparkling). It was not a frightening sight, but almost comforting.

On a daily basis _underscore_ can see orbs such as those pictured in the following link:

http://www.angelsghosts.com/orb_ghost_picture_examples.html

_underscore_ is not really sure what the orbs are, but he has been able to see them since he was a child. The orbs kind of float lazily around, and once in a while seem to 'bounce'. Sometimes there are dozens of them, sometimes just one or two. _underscore_ has never met another person who could see them with their own eyes.

[scar]

Interesting. I notice sometimes blobs of light out of the corner of my eyes, then when I look to see what it is, it vanishes. Though I do see some auras around specific objects.

I wonder if meditation helps this?

[lightbeing]

I've been getting movement out the corner of my eyes for some time now, like a white object:confused: Also, been seeing a blue hazzy blob on the wall next to my tv:confused:
But I have come to accept I am being watched all the time by entities of some kind..............

[cyberdaemon]

I once saw a lot people in my corner of the eye and heard sounds , not anymore.And what are these flashes ? Its like all goes so lighted up as during the lightning storm , but there is not lightning , maybe even clear sky.I hear a lot "come to me" or "follow me" kind of sounds.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

It's hard to explain, to put it simple... I see everything (if not thinking) as waves (material not beeing solid) like a slowly moving jelly > breathing > expanding and going in different directions and then to its original shape etc.


that's what im talking about. including the flashes and stuff. but also with people. i see the body as a body and teh soul as a soul, and both togetehr as an interconnected "machine".

the "lightening" effect is somethingi have seen only recently, after 2 really weird things happened. there was a storm and it felt like the wind was being directed at the house, we nearly lost the roof, i grabbed this stream of air with my mind and made it subside and go around the house. the was (apparently-coz only my mum heard it) a noise like a "woosh!" then everythign went clam, this happened twice that night. a couple days later i was on the comp and i saw that lightening effect just to the right of me and the comp and slightley elevated. this happened again and again for a few hours every 10 minuts or so, it was always accompanied by a noise that sounded like the walls had some pressure suddenly on them-almost like a soft crunch- i went to bed, and woke up the next day nd we had no electricity becoz our line had snapped in the middle, no one else in the street had this problem,although there were power blackouts in surrounding areas. this weird shit started happeneing after i watched that stupid fuckin ufo summoner, and paused at the bit where u see the ufo, and i connected to whateva was insided-since then i have been having weird psychic attacks and feelings.

[kblood]

Unless I need to see things "clearly" I try to stick with my normal 3D kind of vision. I am not particularly fond of seing ghosts, auras and whatever other energies that are all around us. Instead of seeing it all, I feel it. I try not to do that either though. Sometimes my empathy is just out of control, and I can sense wether people around me is sexually aroused f.ex. (that being quite a strong emotion and energy around that person or those persons is faster and more active, also they are usually a bit warmer than others).

Since seeing the world "as it is" is very confusing (at least when trying to act like a regular person), I try to "shut off" all but the 5 senses. Sometimes music helps, or other things that can distract me. Drugs of any kind must have the opposite effect.

Seems you have opened one of the abilities in your mind and are feeling the after effects binhdinh_khiwarrior. I hope it doesnt take to long for it to pass. It might even be best to try getting rid of it, but I guess it is a part of the awakening. Learning to control it might be the only way. Ignoring it and trying to get rid of it, might just make it dormant and still uncontrollable.

[rasnalgoul]

ive noticed that i dont really care anymore as to what i see but to how i feel. To me its like the only things that are important anymore is what feels right. Even if something looks good or smells good or sounds good, i find myself always trying to interpret my inner feeling of those sensations and wether that is good or bad. But recently Ive been smokin herb and getting into altered states and now its like i can hear or see or smell the true reality behind something. For example I will witness some friends hanging out or having conversations and I can see what it is that draws them together or why they are friends. I hear music and I can hear what the true intention behind the music is, its message and sometimes that can be destruction, learning, positive thinking, and that helps me sort out the awful or nasty stuff. And smell has given me amazing scenery in my mind. A friend stopped through a drive through at Taco bell, and threw the driver side window as he pulled up to pick up, i could smell the inside of the place. I dont eat fast food, so I had never really interpreted the smell before but what I smelled was so awful, it was basically death, I almost threw up. In altered states I also sometimes think im a child again or in a different place or memory, and I see the false nature of this world, but when I come down it gradually wears off but everytime something stays with me. Right now that something is that strong intuition. does that sound familiar to anyone? - haha longwinded

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

Kblood>

yeah i know what u mean it can be hard putting on that 'mask' in societ when u see things other's do not, but it's been like that for me for since i was 14 and began to scry-it changed how my eyes worked, so it was permanently "on" which made it difficult for me for many years to go into a bathroom with a mirror in the dark, becausei knew i owuld see stuff-it wasn't taht i minded seeing stuff just that the mirror wasn't blessed-so any old bastard could come through, but at my current level that dosn't bother me any more. I have nothing to hide, and I do not fear reality (lot's of acid made sure of that!), actually once i had my first level of awakening and started to realise stuff-alot of my deep, constant depression left me-and is now often quite managble-except wen i smoke weed..sigh... Iknow what u mean though, wouldn't it be easier to just be the same? yep, but that's not the life God intended for us I guess, so..it's go with teh flow for me now lol!

Thoth>

yes, mediaton wil change how u see things, it's literally the "natural" weed/halluicnogen, it refines ur energy and elevates ur vibration-what a high! at certain levels it is possible to access the DMT in your brain to achioeve enlightenment! I'll discuss that one with u later, it's in the books i recommended.
Rasnalgoul
"draws them together or why they are friends.

yep i understand that one mate! that is the kind of experience i had on acid- weed and acid are related, acids like a 1000 times stronger, but it's very familiar to me-especially when i have it with weed-but ifu are having those kinds of experiences on weed i wouldn't recommend u to go any higher like with acid or something-you may not need that kind of experience to achieve those higher levels!

very interesting guys, thanks for ur replies! keep em comming if uv go more! at least now i don't feel so alone!

[rasnalgoul]

interesting, I always thought that everyone around me was as high as I was, but the other night my friend said to the group as we were sitting, ' i think he gets alot higher than everyone else'. I think thats true. I have fairly strong visuals, intense sensations, and often feeling of being in another time or time itself being false and me being in a timeless state where everything is drawn together, including childhood into one. Lately I feel as though I am in a wavy ocean. The feeling is like I am part of the ocean I am one with the water and I am washing about with it in waves. I could barely walk the other night, and It was just one hit from a bong. When I had some really good quality herb, I used to get this intense feeling or tingling running up my back starting from my tail bone through my spine and straight out my forehead like it was projecting. When this would happen I would either have to stand up and dance around, like step dancing , because my hips would just have so much energy. Once I swayed in placed and felt like a flame, dancing back and forth in the wind, I would have visuals. Sometimes I just sit and close my eyes as this feeling comes and I have visuals threw what I think is my third eye. It has to be. I remember learning about tribes in the souther deserts of africa who described this feeling which they called 'knum' pronounced nume- noom. They said it was your essence and it rised up your back and spine into the head like a burning sensation. They achieved through dances and tranceing in healing rituals. It was described as painful, but maybe the pain killin affect of weed neutralizes it. I would like to hear what you think of that. You also said I shouldnt try anything stronger like LSD. Im curious but also afraid I might be a bit overwhelmed. Suggestions bhindi?

[s1lm]

I frequently see 'flashes' which are like small circles coloured maybe white or pink, they stay for about - a very small amount of time, less than a second - then disappear.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

have fairly strong visuals, intense sensations, and often feeling of being in another time or time itself being false and me being in a timeless state where everything is drawn together- that's tripping :D weed shouldn't do that, unless you are sensitive.

yep u r right! that is ur "essence" you qi- (prenatal qi) comming up ur spin and out the nearest open hole which is ur thir eye chakra, if u have a trip it will open ur crown, this (4 u because of ur personality) would be permanent and could be quite devastating to ur mind-ifu can't handle it, i honestly don't think u need it, by the sounds of it! meditation and weed would have the same effects for u, for me to get that it took way too much acid, and about 10 years of qi training! so u must be very sensitive, acid would force that point open, violently, u may be able to handle it you may not, u won't know unless u try it, but i really would not recommend it, coz u sound special-and it might erase that part of u that u if you know whati mean! lol and hat would be bad! I think u should look into mantak chia's works, that will teach u alot about what's happening inside you.

another prob with opening ur crown, if ur not ready (i mean if u do not have control over ur own energy) blockages could accumulate in ur brain (this can happen with weed also), the affect of this i psychosis-the exact opposite of enlightmen/awakening, which u don't want trust me ;) ifu need some advice bout enerf\gy n stuff pm and i'll pointu in the right direction!

i'm so glad, that i actually have other's that i can talk about this kind of thing with, my "best" friends think i'm nuts...coz they don't understand and cannot conceptualize this kind of thing within their paradigm...thoth is also into energy work, he might be useful to chat to as well, i think he has the same problem that not many ppl understand!

with the pain killing bit-what is pain? info to ur brain in electrical signals saying somethings wrong...but that is not really the case exactly, what is the cause of that pain?...blockage in ur energy system, weed (it seems) prevents stagnation of ur energy "stream" in particular areas (it causes blockages in ur lung channels and ur brain too-that's a prob, but it can be controlled!). there is a fine line between pain and pleasure, they are in fact the same animal, if there is alot of qi comming out and ur not ready it couldbe quite painful, but if u have a blockage and it is realsed u might feel it as extreme high/pleasure.

anyway mate! i hope iwas of some help!

[rasnalgoul]

totally. I was with my friends again tonight, and Im still out there. They totally werent at the same level I was. It almost seemed as though they were very mild compared to me. Do you think doing yoga, and stretching will help calm the qi or equalize it? Because when I first smoke sometimes I feel as though I am turbulent water, like swashing energy. But sometimes when I stretch or do yoga it seems the pattern becomes predictable like a heart beat. Im sorry if this is just rambles, Im still out of it right now. Your really hitting the spot though, you seems to have all the answers.

[rasnalgoul]

what im trying to say is will proper stretching of my body and spine allow my qi to flow with out being stuck in blockages so my mind is always on this state of higher awareness?
you know what im saying?

[rasnalgoul]

ohh by the way, someone posted a terrance mckenna video on youtube, where he narrates about conspiracy, while this strange coliadiscope image just expands. Anyone know what Im talking about. It was posted on this forum somewhere a month or two ago.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

hey mate!


sorry for the late reply

Yes i think yoga could be very beneficial to your general health...


I think taht is why Qi training was "packaged" along with yoga/martial arts training (and for other reasons too) but if u generate qi but don't stretch it just stangnates inside u and becomes sickness and pain..

I know what u mean about the weed mate, wat i have found is that it does stimulate my energy body-unsticking certain areas, but sticking in others-like my lungs and brain...which is a problem if u don't realise it (cancer and psychocis-just what i need! great!). so waht i do sometimes is smoke weed mediatate and strech all together as a routine lol-well probably just high lol-but it helps...but honestly putting crap into ur lungs can't be good for ur energy body, that's for sure....

[joss classey]

i see streams of energy all around me

often i will see flashes of pure light like a rip in spacetime

[siliconpsychosis]

ohh by the way, someone posted a terrance mckenna video on youtube, where he narrates about conspiracy, while this strange coliadiscope image just expands. Anyone know what Im talking about. It was posted on this forum somewhere a month or two ago.


Terence McKenna collaborated with Spacetime Continuum on an album called Timewave Zero . McKenna talks over the entire album and he says some truly amazing stuff. This is the most profound album I have ever listened to.

If you listen to the album on acid you are likely to transcend. Without it you will still learn a great deal from one of the greatest thinkers ever.

[albie]

I sometimes see bits of the world wobble. A schizophrenic told me about seeing it, then years later I saw it.

http://files.myopera.com/Albie/albums/27650/god.jpg

[brogieman]

Soglad and auron,

I remember seeing those on boards.ie, how are you guys?

why were you banned Auron?