Why is Luciferianism Evil?

[unusual_suspect]

Ok, I have read a lot of gnostic material and studied occult matters and I see alot of people in the alternative media talk about the evil Luciferian agenda.

Luciferianism is often linked to Satanism, yet nothing I have read has convinced me that Luciferiansim is evil or bad. Many people have justified wrong things using various religions, for example, so does this mean that Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam etc are Satanic?

From what I can gather Lucifer was the light bringer and brings knoweledge, how is this bad?

[herushura]

nothing bad about it, Lucifer is the Roman translation of the Greek goddess of Love, phosphorus.

They turn good pagan gods and turn them evil to encourage them that paganism is evil, even though monotheisms encourages evil.

Satan was also a decent ancient god who was turn evil by bible writers.

[unusual_suspect]

nothing bad about it, Lucifer is the Roman translation of the Greek goddess of Love, phosphorus.

They turn good pagan gods and turn them evil to encourage them that its bad.

Satan was also a decent ancient god who was turn evil by bible writers.

Why are so many people freaking out about the Luciferian elite and their satanic agenda then? I am not clear on how people arrived at the conclusion that Luciferianism is a bad thing. I have researched this and it all seems pretty sound common sense stuff to me, but so are most religions, it's the people that spoil them.

[herushura]

Why are so many people freaking out about the Luciferian elite and their satanic agenda then? I am not clear on how people arrived at the conclusion that Luciferianism is a bad thing. I have researched this and it all seems pretty sound common sense stuff to me, but so are most religions, it's the people that spoil them.


mainly because of certain biblical quotes that banned Astrology, Astrology is the basis of Luciferianism, which is why they consider it evil.
lucifer never existed in the bible, it was deliberately inserted to counter paganism

[unusual_suspect]

mainly because of certain biblical quotes that banned Astrology, Astrology is the basis of Luciferianism, which is why they consider it evil.
lucifer never existed in the bible, it was deliberately inserted to counter paganism

This is the thing, there is no Luciferian agenda, the elite are just money grabbing, greedy people.

Do you think the whole conspiracy that has grown around the Luciferian/Satanic Agenda has been manufactured to keep people from seeing what is really going on. Luciferianism encourages one to take responsiblity for ones self and to turn within for gnosis, people who think Luciferiansim is evil do not have their facts straight.

[mind1universe]

Why are so many people freaking out about the Luciferian elite and their satanic agenda then? I am not clear on how people arrived at the conclusion that Luciferianism is a bad thing. I have researched this and it all seems pretty sound common sense stuff to me, but so are most religions, it's the people that spoil them.

Because fear creates evolution. Fear gives you the chance to value love. Fear helps you understand your shadow self. For Fear helps you appreciate your higher self likewise.

Lucifer represents as the light bearer, but the energy seems to stem as service of self rather than the word evil.

If there were no darkness within this universe it wouldn't exist. We wouldn't mould or experience what light actually is. The universe is interesting because you have the polarity of service of self and the service to the "all oneness"

This is the game of this universe. Enjoy it while it's "now"

[uncia]

Luciferianism is often linked to Satanism.
Same thing. The King of Tyre in the Bible (the original Lucifer) was a type or figure of Satan, being controlled by Satan.

Thus a luciferian is one controlled by, or under the influence of Satan.

[mind1universe]

This is the thing, there is no Luciferian agenda, the elite are just money grabbing, greedy people.

Do you think the whole conspiracy that has grown around the Luciferian/Satanic Agenda has been manufactured to keep people from seeing what is really going on. Luciferianism encourages one to take responsiblity for ones self and to turn within for gnosis, people who think Luciferiansim is evil do not have their facts straight.

The energy of Lucifer is 6th density, It is not evil at all.


6th density is where polarity is equal in darkness and light. You are one with both. 6th density beings that manifest the light and dark polarity into a lower dimension where they test themselves as the "experience" This one of many realties they would create. This world was a huge sacrifice to the Luciferans, as many E.Ts from different dimensions are playing roles here and not to mention that free will exists with equal negative and positive entities roaming together on this planet.

The reason this is done, is for 6th density beings to complete the 6th form to the divine. 666 is the number of man. Man is only a test to the divine. The 7th density assures that all below the heavens are in the order of the laws.

6th density is a tough process. My feeling its millions of years if not at least a 100million years to acend into the 7th density. I find it hard to explain it in word form. I've forgotten my 6th density form through child birth :D


So the Luciferans came to make a unique path. Though most people are tricked into thinking their are "evil", but this is because the human mind can only decifer reality from a physical manifestation experience of what is ie good vs evil complex. This doesn't exist in the higher realms. The 3rd and 4th density have service of self involved but after this it doesn't live very long in the higher dimensions.:)

[unusual_suspect]

Because fear creates evolution. Fear gives you the chance to value love. Fear helps you understand your shadow self. For Fear helps you appreciate your higher self likewise.

Lucifer represents as the light bearer, but the energy seems to stem as service of self rather than the word evil.

If there were no darkness within this universe it wouldn't exist. We wouldn't mould or experience what light actually is. The universe is interesting because you have the polarity of service of self and the service to the "all oneness"

This is the game of this universe. Enjoy it while it's "now"

Well, you hit the nail on the head, been thinking about how much conspiracy/alternative stuff that is about that seems to just throw you off on a tangent. If I believed all of it I would be a paranoid wreck.

I've always been a melancholic person, I have Saturn conjunct my Ascendant, sometimes my heart is so heavy and my mood is so black I seriously wonder how I will get through the day, never mind how I will make it to 2012. Then it hit me a while back, just try to savour every moment of goodness, all the little things and be truly thankfull for them. I truly am a miserable old bat and I have to constantly search for the tiny nuggets of gold in the quagmire we call life ;)

[herushura]

Same thing. The King of Tyre in the Bible (the original Lucifer) was a type or figure of Satan, being controlled by Satan.


What you said, make no sense? The king of Tyre is a King who ruled Tyre

[michael christopher]

It's not evil. People fear what they don't want to confront.

"The devil" is what people know are the worst qualities about themselves and they project these into a false entity which they direct their scorn and hatred at.

It's really quite primitive.

Satan is the darkness that must be confronted and defeated - and you defeat something by understanding it and canceling it's power.

Satan/Lucifer/thedevil/etc. is all nothing more than an initiation, and most people aren't ready for the trial.

[element]

"The devil" is what people know are the worst qualities about themselves and they project these into a false entity which they direct their scorn and hatred at.

I agree.

The rest about all of it is mythical, but taken literal by the mundane. Well, that's my take on it.

[michael christopher]

I agree.

The rest about all of it is mythical, but taken literal by the mundane. Well, that's my take on it.

It's always been the same. Some people have an esoteric understanding and see that the myths and legends are nothing more than psychological metaphors for the human experience.

However, the large majority of people have always chosen to be extremely ignorant and they take these myths and legends as literal stories to be worshiped and re-enacted. They have an exoteric understanding.

Morons, I say. Even if that gives me bad points from the angels. :D

[uncia]

What you said, make no sense? The king of Tyre is a King who ruled Tyre

Sorry, king of Babylon.

Is 14:4 "That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!
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Is 14:10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

Is 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, [and] the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Is 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

[michael christopher]

Sorry, king of Babylon.

Uncia, I'm sure you're not aware, but I should point out to you that you're quoting what can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to be a mistranslation. :)

Not that you are all that familiar with the original Bible... most people like you aren't. :)

STICK TO THE GOOD OLD KING JAMES!!!!! The 100% word of God!

Do you have any bumper stickers on the back of your car? :D

[uncia]

Uncia, I'm sure you're not aware, but I should point out to you that you're quoting what can be proven beyond the shadow of a doubt to be a mistranslation. :)
I am fully aware its a mistranslation, but it's the only place where "lucifer" occurs in the bible. It was the bible itself which was responsible for the propagation of the name "lucifer", as "lucifer" himself was only a minor Roman deity that would probably have been forgotten like most of the other deities, were it not for the bible.

But as I said, the King of Babylon (and the king of Tyre in fact) were both types or figures of the evil angle Satan, which is why Lucifier is now implicitly associated with Satan.

[unusual_suspect]

It's always been the same. Some people have an esoteric understanding and see that the myths and legends are nothing more than psychological metaphors for the human experience.

However, the large majority of people have always chosen to be extremely ignorant and they take these myths and legends as literal stories to be worshiped and re-enacted. They have an exoteric understanding.

Morons, I say. Even if that gives me bad points from the angels. :D

This is no good when people are seeking the truth. This esoteric knowledge has been repressed because it empowers and frees people. I remember a recent thread about some "satanic" school book, people have been scared off exploering the esoteric when there is nothing to fear.

[michael christopher]

I am fully aware its a mistranslation, but it's the only place where "lucifer" occurs in the bible. It was the bible itself which was responsible for the propagation of the name "lucifer", as "lucifer" himself was only a minor Roman deity that would probably have been forgotten like most of the other deities, were it not for the bible.

But as I said, the King of Babylon (and the king of Tyre in fact) were both types or figures of the evil angle Satan, which is why Lucifier is now implicitly ssociated with Satan.

So, uh, you still associate Lucifer with Satan even though you know the only mention of Lucifer in the Bible is a mistranslation?

That's real smart.

BTW, it's not the only mention, Jesus calls himself Lucifer in Revelations 22:16, except in the English translation instead of saying "Lucifer" they make it say "Morning Star" so people don't figure out the game they're playing. You're playing.

[michael christopher]

This is no good when people are seeking the truth. This esoteric knowledge has been repressed because it empowers and frees people. I remember a recent thread about some "satanic" school book, people have been scared off exploering the esoteric when there is nothing to fear.

My favorite parts about that thread were how the picture of the roller coaster and the letter G were considered "Satanic symbols." Isn't it strange how people on this forum fail to realize how absolutely ridiculous they make themselves look?

[herushura]

Sorry, king of Babylon.

He was the King of Babylon called Nebuchadnezzar, why would you assume that he is Satan or Lucifer.

[uncia]

So, uh, you still associate Lucifer with Satan even though you know the only mention of Lucifer in the Bible is a mistranslation?

That's real smart.

BTW, it's not the only mention, Jesus calls himself Lucifer in Revelations 22:16, except in the English translation instead of saying "Lucifer" they make it say "Morning Star" so people don't figure out the game they're playing. You're playing.
I am fully aware than "morning star" is in Rev 2:28 & Rev. 22:16 but also star is referred to in Num 24:17.

Satan was the false star, the star that led people astray. Christ was the true star, as prophecied in Num 24:17. I suppose that the KJV translators wanted to distinguish this false star from the true morning star, so they used the name "lucifier". They did things like that elsewhere too, translating the Hebrew "anointed one" in Daniel as "messiah" to make some specific point.

Num 24:17 "There shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth."

[michael christopher]

He was the King of Babylon called Nebuchadnezzar, why would you assume that he is Satan or Lucifer.

Because the intentional King James mistranslation was "divinely inspired" - don't ask him why, his heart tells him this is the truth! ;)

[michael christopher]

I am fully aware than "morning star" is in Rev 2:28 & Rev. 22:16 but also star is referred to in Num 24:17.

Satan was the false star, the star that led people astray. Christ was the true star, as prophecied in Num 24:17. I suppose that the KJV translators wanted to distinguish this false star from the true morning star, so they used the name "lucifier". They did things like that elsewhere too, translating the Hebrew "anointed one" in Daniel as "messiah" to make some specific point.

Satan couldn't have been a false star, because Satan is the fucked up version of the name Saturn which is a real star. You're not a very good Kronus worshiper or you would know that. God might have to send you down to the party with us if you're not careful... you wouldn't want that would you?

You suppose the KJV translators... haha, let's stop there.

You suppose.

The end.

[herushura]

Satan couldn't have been a false star, because Satan is the fucked up version of the name Saturn which is a real star.

You suppose the KJV translators... haha, let's stop there.

You suppose.

The end.

Dont confuse Roman god Saturn with the planet Saturn.

[michael christopher]

Dont confuse Roman god Saturn with the planet Saturn.

They named the planet Saturn after the Roman God Saturn, or vice versa - they represent the same type of energy.

Astrology is extremely tied in with mythology. The gods are emanations of Qabalistic sephiroth, which are represented by the planets in our solar system.

Mercury = Mercury/Hermes/Thoth
Venus = Venus/Lucifer/Horus/Freya/Enki
Mars = Aries/Mars
Jupiter = Zeus/Jupiter/Odin/Enlil
Saturn = Satan/Saturn/Kronus/Chronos
Uranus = I don't know
Neptune = Poseidon/Neptune
Pluto = Hades/Pluto

Just a fact. :)

[herushura]

They named the planet Saturn after the Roman God Saturn, or vice versa - they represent the same type of energy.

Astrology is extremely tied in with mythology. The gods are emanations of Qabalistic sephiroth, which are represented by the planets in our solar system.

Mercury = Mercury/Hermes/Thoth
Venus = Venus/Lucifer/Horus/Freya/Enki
Mars = Aries/Mars
Jupiter = Zeus/Jupiter/Odin/Enlil
Saturn = Satan/Saturn/Kronus/Chronos
Uranus = I don't know
Neptune = Poseidon/Neptune
Pluto = Hades/Pluto

Just a fact. :)

Sure, as a Separate personas, but i researched all these gods, and the above system is inaccurate and doesn't fit there mythologies

[michael christopher]

Sure, as a Separate personas, but i researched all these gods, and the above system is inaccurate and doesn't fit there mythologies

That's odd, seems our research comes to conflict. :) Oh well, we are free to believe whatever we want to.

I personally believe and am pretty sure I know that Satan is Saturn, Kronos the god of Time.

[uncia]

Satan couldn't have been a false star, because Satan is the fucked up version of the name Saturn which is a real star. You're not a very good Kronus worshiper or you would know that.
BS. "Satan" is a transliteration from Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew in turn, and means "adversary", and has nothing to do with the Roman "Saturn".

[michael christopher]

BS. "Satan" is a transliteration from Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew in turn, and means "adversary", and has nothing to do with the Roman "Saturn".

Right, right. Keep telling yourself that.

As long as it helps you sleep with the fact that you worship a God that commands babies to be killed. :)

[herushura]

That's odd, seems our research comes to conflict. :) Oh well, we are free to believe whatever we want to.

I personally believe and am pretty sure I know that Satan is Saturn, Kronos the god of Time.

Well, with old research i did, the Greek god that fits in with Satan is actually Poseidon, Originally Poseidon was a Agriculture and Sun God. In the story of Atlantis, Zeus caused Poseidon and Atlantis to sink in the ocean, that is why Poseidon is now the god of sea which is why he holds a trident.

Satan is also pictured holding a trident, the only reason that Satan should be holding a trident if he were a Sea god. Secondly Underworld or hell actually means the same thing as under-the-ocean. thirdly the story in which Satan is cast down to hell by god is very well paralleled with Zeus casting down Poseidon into the ocean.

Book of Revelations have remarkable parallels with the Story of Atlantis

Po-Seidon ~ Po-Satan

[michael christopher]

Well, with old research i did, the Greek god that fits in with Satan is actually Poseidon, Originally Poseidon was a Agriculture and Sun God. In the story of Atlantis, Zeus caused Poseidon and Atlantis to sink in the ocean, that is why Poseidon is now the god of sea which is why he holds a trident.

Apollo was the Sun God, Poseidon was the god of the sea. I don't know where you got the idea that he was previous a sun god because I have been researching mythology since I was five years old and I've never heard anything even remotely like that.

Satan is also pictured holding a trident, the only reason that Satan should be holding a trident if he were a Sea god. Secondly Underworld or hell actually means the same thing as under-the-ocean. thirdly the story in which Satan is cast down to hell by god is very well paralleled with Zeus casting down Poseidon into the ocean.

Po-Seidon ~ Po-Satan

Zeus never cast Poseidon into the ocean. Satan is more correlated with Prometheus/Lucifer who gave fire to man, and whom Zeus punished for having done so.

Where did you see the myth that Zeus cast Poseidon into the ocean? I love Greek mythology and I've never even heard of that.

I see the trident thing but that is because Satan is primarily a combination of a bunch of different gods. However, he correlates most strongly to Saturn, the God of repression and time.

[herushura]

Apollo was the Sun God, Poseidon was the god of the sea. I don't know where you got the idea that he was previous a sun god because I have been researching mythology since I was five years old and I've never heard anything even remotely like that.

Zeus never cast Poseidon into the ocean. Satan is more correlated with Prometheus/Lucifer who gave fire to man, and whom Zeus punished for having done so.



from platos atlantis account
Poseidon sat down laws for Atlantis which the rulers were to fellow. The ruling body was to meet regularly. It was to consist of ten rulers which represented the first rulers, Atlas and his nine brothers, who reigned with absolute power of life and death over their subjects. These meeting occurred in the temple of Poseidon where the first rulers inscribed the laws on a pillar of orichalcum. First, as required by ancient ceremony, pledges were exchanged. Then a sacred bull was captured and killed. The body was burned as a sacrifice to the god. Then the blood was mixed with wine and poured over the fire as a act of purification for each man. The rulers were served wine in golden cups, each poured a libation over the fire and swore by oath to give judgment according to the inscribed laws. When ending his vow each drank his wine and dedicated his cup to the temple. This was followed by a dinner which preceded the rulers putting on magnificent blue robes in which they judged matters concerning the kingdom according to Poseidon's laws.

As long as they judged and lived by Poseidon's laws they and the kingdom prospered. When the laws began to be forgotten trouble began. More of the rulers eventually began marrying mortals and started acting like foolish humans. Soon pride overtook the rulers who soon began grasping for greater power. Then Zeus saw what had happened to the rulers. They had abandoned the laws of the gods and acted in an evil coalition as men. He assembled all the gods of Olympus around him and was to pronounce judgment on Atlantis

interesting genesis parallel above?

[michael christopher]

from platos atlantis account
Poseidon sat down laws for Atlantis which the rulers were to fellow. The ruling body was to meet regularly. It was to consist of ten rulers which represented the first rulers, Atlas and his nine brothers, who reigned with absolute power of life and death over their subjects. These meeting occurred in the temple of Poseidon where the first rulers inscribed the laws on a pillar of orichalcum. First, as required by ancient ceremony, pledges were exchanged. Then a sacred bull was captured and killed. The body was burned as a sacrifice to the god. Then the blood was mixed with wine and poured over the fire as a act of purification for each man. The rulers were served wine in golden cups, each poured a libation over the fire and swore by oath to give judgment according to the inscribed laws. When ending his vow each drank his wine and dedicated his cup to the temple. This was followed by a dinner which preceded the rulers putting on magnificent blue robes in which they judged matters concerning the kingdom according to Poseidon's laws.

As long as they judged and lived by Poseidon's laws they and the kingdom prospered. When the laws began to be forgotten trouble began. More of the rulers eventually began marrying mortals and started acting like foolish humans. Soon pride overtook the rulers who soon began grasping for greater power. Then Zeus saw what had happened to the rulers. They had abandoned the laws of the gods and acted in an evil coalition as men. He assembled all the gods of Olympus around him and was to pronounce judgment on Atlantis

interesting genesis parallel above?

So?

Nowhere does that imply that Poseidon was cast into the sea and that he was once the god of the sun.

I will say however that Apollo, the God of the Sun, is cast as the "beast of the abyss" in Revelations.

[herushura]

So?

Nowhere does that imply that Poseidon was cast into the sea and that he was once the god of the sun.

I will say however that Apollo, the God of the Sun, is cast as the "beast of the abyss" in Revelations.

Poseidon was the king and God of Atlantis, he represented Atlantis. So if Atlantis Sunk - He Sunk?

In the middle of Atlantis was a temple was built to honor Poseidon which housed a giant gold statue of Poseidon riding a chariot pulled by winged horses

a golden Poseidon riding a golden chariot pulled by horses are clear indication he was a sun god.

[michael christopher]

Poseidon was the king and God of Atlantis, he represented Atlantis. So if Atlantis Sunk - He Sunk?

In the middle of Atlantis was a temple was built to honor Poseidon which housed a giant gold statue of Poseidon riding a chariot pulled by winged horses

a golden Poseidon riding a golden chariot pulled by horses are clear indication he was a sun god.

It's not a clear indication at all. You are making an awful lot of assumptions. Riding in golden chariots pulled by horses is something a lot of wealthy people did back then, you know.

[herushura]

It's not a clear indication at all. You are making an awful lot of assumptions. Riding in golden chariots pulled by horses is something a lot of wealthy people did back then, you know.

Just Read Plato's account of the Story of Atlantis

[michael christopher]

Just Read Plato's account of the Story of Atlantis

But I have...

And nothing says Poseidon was once a sun god.

[herushura]

But I have...

And nothing says Poseidon was once a sun god.

Well of course, Poseidon isn't going to say " I am Poseidon the sun god"
nor would he say "I am Poseidon the sea god"

Apollo is not primarily equated with the sun, he is equated with Music and poetry. the primary sun god of the Greeks is Helios.

[michael christopher]

Well of course, Poseidon isn't going to say " I am Poseidon the sun god"
nor would he say "I am Poseidon the sea god"

Apollo is not primarily equated with the sun, he is equated with Music and poetry. the primary sun god of the Greeks is Helios.

Apollo actually is directly and primarily noted as the Sun God... :-\

He rides the chariot into the sky each day upon which the sun trails. I mean... no offense, but unlike your assertion than Poseidon was once a sun god, I can offer a great deal of evidence to the fact that both the Greeks and the Romans worshiped Apollo as the God of the Sun.

[herushura]

Apollo actually is directly and primarily noted as the Sun God... :-\

He rides the chariot into the sky each day upon which the sun trails. I mean... no offense, but unlike your assertion than Poseidon was once a sun god, I can offer a great deal of evidence to the fact that both the Greeks and the Romans worshiped Apollo as the God of the Sun.


Wrong

Apollo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
quote; As a quintessentially Greek god, Apollo had no direct Roman equivalent,

[herushura]

Wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
quote; As a quintessentially Greek god, Apollo had no direct Roman equivalent,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/86/Apollo_ny_carlsberg_glyptotek.jpg

[michael christopher]

Wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
quote; As a quintessentially Greek god, Apollo had no direct Roman equivalent,

The Romans simply did not change his name, but they still worshiped him.

On the very site you link to:

Apollo was worshipped in both ancient Greek and Roman religion, as well as in the modern Greco-Roman Neopaganism.

C'mon, it's only a few sentences down. Did you even read the page?

BTW: What a shame Apollo's cock is broken off on that statue. As the god of homosexuality, I'm sure he would be quite monstrous down there. :(

[thelucifer]

Ok, I have read a lot of gnostic material and studied occult matters and I see alot of people in the alternative media talk about the evil Luciferian agenda.

Luciferianism is often linked to Satanism, yet nothing I have read has convinced me that Luciferiansim is evil or bad. Many people have justified wrong things using various religions, for example, so does this mean that Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam etc are Satanic?

From what I can gather Lucifer was the light bringer and brings knoweledge, how is this bad?

The ultimate case of mistaken identity, Jesus/Lucifer villified as Satan (or in cahoots with Satan).

The ultimate irony is Christians calling Luciferianism evil when Luciferianism is Christianity, and to say they love and KNOW Jesus yet call Lucifer evil.



Cant make this shit up.

[majorlee]

nothing bad about it, Lucifer is the Roman translation of the Greek goddess of Love, phosphorus.

They turn good pagan gods and turn them evil to encourage them that paganism is evil, even though monotheisms encourages evil.

Satan was also a decent ancient god who was turn evil by bible writers.


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[yhwhschild]

Ok, I have read a lot of gnostic material and studied occult matters and I see alot of people in the alternative media talk about the evil Luciferian agenda.

Luciferianism is often linked to Satanism, yet nothing I have read has convinced me that Luciferiansim is evil or bad. Many people have justified wrong things using various religions, for example, so does this mean that Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, Islam etc are Satanic?

From what I can gather Lucifer was the light bringer and brings knoweledge, how is this bad?

Shalom'

There are differing ideas as to who lucifer is but the fact that he fell from heaven and is said to be the bringer of the false light which is also equated with Satan. Whether these two are the same fallen angel I don't know but the both were kicked out of Heaven so that says enough because the true light resides in the consienceness of YHWH.

Ever since the war in the heavens happened between light and darkness the angels that fell are known as the angels of the false light/darkness.

After Satan's role in the fall of man he was told by YHWH that he would face destruction through the coming Messiah out of Eve's seed.

Ever since then he has been doing every thing in his power to stop YHWH's plans by firstly having his angels make babies with human women to destroy the chance of the Messiah coming. Secondly, masquerade as benevolent alien/gods and create a new religion opposite to the Torah( Cain and Able new the Torah even before Mt Sinai). Then change his religion to fit into the belief systems of all the major nations (same religion different names) and also create new ones that copy and use the teachings of the Tenakh. This is called the false light as it looks like the light of the Torah but is not because it leads you away from YHWH.

There is only one true light which comes from the universal consienceness YHWH every thing that is opposite to that comes from Satan, Lucifer, Molech, Ba'al. Ra etc etc... as these are the holders of the false light pretending to be messengers of the Truth.

Satan needs an army as he thinks he can defeat YHWH in the end so he is using every single method he can think of to get us to join his side.