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rodin
07-10-2009, 08:29 PM
David Cameron's alliance with controversial parties in Europe came under renewed pressure tonight as the representative body of British Jews wrote to the Tory leader raising questions about their partnership and the head of Stonewall pulled out of a Pride event at the conference.

A letter was sent from Vivian Wineman, the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, in a sign of the Jewish community's concerns over Cameron's pact with rightwing parties in Poland and Latvia.

In response, the Tories appeared dismissive of the discontent, saying in a statement the board had been swayed by "politically motivated allegations made by the Labour party".

Ben Summerskill, head of the equality group Stonewall, pulled out of the Pride event in protest at appearances by Michal Kaminski and Roberts Zile.

"There is no doubt the progress that has been made in the last couple of years has genuinely been historic," Summerskill told Channel 4 News. "But the event tonight has been overshadowed by the presence, not just at conference but on the same platform as some senior members of the party, of people of such extreme and offensive views."

Kaminski, the Polish leader of the Tories' caucus in the European parliament, the European Conservatives and Reformists Group, and Zile, leader of the Latvian Fatherland and Freedom party, both appeared and defended their political careers at a fringe meeting at the Tory conference in Manchester today.

The pair received only gentle questioning, and Kaminski had been expected to speak at a late afternoon event held by the Conservative Friends of Israel, but did not appear. He did, however, earlier attend lunch with the group, where the Israeli ambassador to the UK, Ron Prosser, was present. Last week the board said it had looked into Kaminski and found nothing objectionable in his background, but its decision to write to Cameron suggests misgivings have become substantial.

Last week the foreign secretary, David Miliband, said at the Labour party conference that Kaminski had an "antisemitic past" and highlighted that members of Zile's party take part in annual celebrations of a Latvian unit of the Waffen SS.

Zile said of the attack today: "What has surprised me on this issue was I never thought this would come from a western democratic party. I would expect it to come from Moscow or the Kremlin, as it does from time to time.

"What happened was during the second world war [Latvian] people were often conscripted against their will to fight for both sides, Germans and Russians. Once a year these people commemorate their war dead, the people they fought alongside. They don't in any way commemorate Hitler or the Nazi regime. We would never do business with anyone who we thought glorified the SS."

The shadow minster for Europe, Mark Francois, said: "This is a slur which comes from the Soviet era, that was thrown by the Soviet authorities at the Latvian people. They in no way whatsoever commemorate anything to do with Hitler or the Nazi regime. The Latvian ambassador in London has chided the foreign secretary for using this tack, which basically dates from the days of Soviet propaganda."

Francois added: "All the parties in the group are signatories to the Prague protocol and we are perfectly happy with all of our partners that they believe in a liberal society and full respect for human rights."

Although the fringe event was carefully stage-managed – terse political lines trotted out and limited time for questions – there was one unfortunate mistake. The basement room in which delegates gathered to hear the controversial Tory allies was in Manchester's Midland Hotel, a building Hitler is said to have liked so much that he would have made it his northern residence if he had invaded.Earlier in the day comedians Eddie Izzard and Stephen Fry, both Labour supporters, published a letter condemning the alliance. The views of the Poles and Latvians were, they said, at odds with the Tories' new social liberalism.

A Tory spokesman said: "We're concerned that the politically motivated allegations made by the Labour Party and their allies have been noted by the Board of Deputies." "All these allegations have repeatedly been shown to be false. We will talk to the Board of Deputies about the lack of evidence behind them and their partisan nature. People should take account of the fact that the Polish chief rabbi has said that his remarks have been misrepresented, that the Latvian foreign minister has called David Miliband about his remarks, that the Latvian ambassador in London has spoken to the Foreign Office about the matter."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/oct/06/david-cameron-eu-alliance-questioned

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The Russians dragooned some 75,000 Latvians into their ranks, the Germans conscripted about 150,000. Families were torn asunder, and fathers and sons ended up on opposing sides. Barely a family in the country was not directly affected. Under German occupation, in 1942-43, about 80,000 Latvian Jews were massacred. Latvian extermination squads and police battalions took part in the local holocaust. Several thousand of these killers and war criminals then volunteered for the SS divisions in 1944.

"It's easy to say they were shooting Jews," insists Dobelis. "But I have no such information. They were not connected with the Latvian legion. There is no connection. Give me the names."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/oct/06/freedom-party-refute-miliband-claims

Juri Lina goes into great detail about this in 'Under the Sign of the Scorpion'. A different picture emerges from the history book version

bowtiedaddy
07-10-2009, 10:21 PM
They're all Nazis. Every government in the western world. It should be assumed automatically that they'll have weird shrines to Hitler that they stroke their members to when no-one is looking. If they could stand up on TV and scream Seig Heil and throw their arm up in a salute, they'd do it. I bet you they plan, that when they get rid of all of us, to erect huge Nazi monuments all over the place. They almost do that much now.

rodin
07-10-2009, 10:41 PM
They're all Nazis. Every government in the western world. It should be assumed automatically that they'll have weird shrines to Hitler that they stroke their members to when no-one is looking. If they could stand up on TV and scream Seig Heil and throw their arm up in a salute, they'd do it. I bet you they plan, that when they get rid of all of us, to erect huge Nazi monuments all over the place. They almost do that much now.

Are you referring to our leaders? Have you checked their provenance?

decim
08-10-2009, 02:14 PM
No menion of the milliband twins origins or their or their father's anti-'Gentile' ideologies.

Last week the foreign secretary, David Miliband, said at the Labour party conference that Kaminski had an "antisemitic past"

yozhik
08-10-2009, 03:12 PM
David Cameron's alliance with controversial parties in Europe came under renewed pressure tonight as the representative body of British Jews wrote to the Tory leader raising questions about their partnership and the head of Stonewall pulled out of a Pride event at the conference.

A letter was sent from Vivian Wineman, the president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, in a sign of the Jewish community's concerns over Cameron's pact with rightwing parties in Poland and Latvia.

So why doesn't he just tell the nosey slag to mind her own business and fuck off?


280,000 'British Jews' out of a total population of ... what? ... 66,000,000?
So around 0.4% of the total population?
A bit like the dung beetle dictating to the elephant where and how to shit ...

rodin
08-10-2009, 05:57 PM
2/3 of Tories and 2/3 of Labour are members of 'Friends of Israel'

...The rest have dual passports

I heard Harman got done
for a hit n run

- the other car wasn't moving according to a witness report - MI five live this morning :D

I wonder how many other countries have 'Friends of' camps in 'our' parliament?

Still at least the speaker's neutral :eek:

jesuitsdidit
11-10-2009, 01:28 AM
Jews hav been hated for a long time
probably bcoz they were allowed to practice usury during the middle-ages
whereas Christians werent
and maybe for other reasons too

however they are NOT the ptb
but they HAVE been set-up by ptb to take the blame for NWO

this is a distraction from the real criminals..

rodin
11-10-2009, 12:57 PM
Jews hav been hated for a long time
probably bcoz they were allowed to practice usury during the middle-ages
whereas Christians werent
and maybe for other reasons too

however they are NOT the ptb
but they HAVE been set-up by ptb to take the blame for NWO

this is a distraction from the real criminals..

So these are a distraction? Not real criminals?

http://jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com/

Read

http://iamthewitness.com/books/Douglas.Reed/The.Controversy.of.Zion/

jesuitsdidit
11-10-2009, 07:26 PM
Jews do not run NWO
they have been placed there as a diversion

13 million Jews vs 1 billion Catholics
unlikely..

jesuitsdidit
11-10-2009, 07:32 PM
also the Holocaust had to happen
to justify establishment of state of Israel
which is necessary coz NWO will be ruled from there

there is only one thing more imp 2 ptb than the rebuilding of Babylon
the creation of Israel

yes
the Dreyfus Affair led 2 WW1
which led 2 WW2
which led 2 Israel
which will lead 2 WW3
which will lead to NWO

but if they get the vaccines in
they wont need to bother with WW3
coz we'll all be dead anyway

see the plan??

bendelapidate
11-10-2009, 09:38 PM
They're all Nazis. Every government in the western world. It should be assumed automatically that they'll have weird shrines to Hitler that they stroke their members to when no-one is looking. If they could stand up on TV and scream Seig Heil and throw their arm up in a salute, they'd do it. I bet you they plan, that when they get rid of all of us, to erect huge Nazi monuments all over the place. They almost do that much now.

Absolutely. People forget that it was the conservative party that took Britain into the EEC in the first place and that it was they who signed the Maastricht treaty and others. Camoron is a lying, cheating sack of shit, just like the rest of the houses of parliament. The conservative vision is for a neo-liberal paradise in which workers and people are granted the same respect and rights as a worker in China.

decim
11-10-2009, 09:43 PM
No one in the media questions labour tory or liberals links to isreal, through 'friends of' network though.

Very odd.

rodin
11-10-2009, 09:50 PM
Jews do not run NWO
they have been placed there as a diversion

13 million Jews vs 1 billion Catholics
unlikely..

There has to be a top of the pyramid. And I reckon there are many more Jews than admitted.

Look @ Obama and Bliar becoming Catholic. They both look to be Jewish origins. Are they really converting to Catholicism, or is Catholicism being converted to Judaism?

Also you have to ask - are these guys 'patsies' or hoods?

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

Rothschild hold the Vatican money do they not? Control of the money means control of the country and a global central banking system means control of the world.

All power groups now answer to the money masters from everything I can see.

jesuitsdidit
11-10-2009, 09:58 PM
There has to be a top of the pyramid. And I reckon there are many more Jews than admitted.

Look @ Obama and Bliar becoming Catholic. They both look to be Jewish origins. Are they really converting to Catholicism, or is Catholicism being converted to Judaism?

Also you have to ask - are these guys 'patsies' or hoods?

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

Rothschild hold the Vatican money do they not? Control of the money means control of the country and a global central banking system means control of the world.

All power groups now answer to the money masters from everything I can see.

its too complicated to go thru now
read eric phelps
vaticanassassins.org
or daily b/c on unhived mind w/s..

rodin
12-10-2009, 12:32 AM
its too complicated to go thru now
read eric phelps
vaticanassassins.org
or daily b/c on unhived mind w/s..

have you read

http://www.controversyofzion.info/Summary_eng.htm

meksar
12-10-2009, 12:49 AM
its too complicated to go thru now
read eric phelps
vaticanassassins.org
or daily b/c on unhived mind w/s..

I believe that the Vatican is of course a very powerful spiritual centre for the agenda and it has many hidden histories and treasures kept in private. Phelps openly calls himself a Zionist and is linked to the Israeli diamond trade, Oxley is another man who has interesting research but is spinning it enough to make the Rothschilds seem subservient to the SNOM and Jesuits.

You can criticize the Vatican openly in the media and get away with it, however you're not allowed to criticize the Jews, everyone knows that and it will soon be law. Zionist Jews do run the media and Hollywood, this a fact also there are Zionist Jews in the majority of powerful positions of influence in finance and government and various other powerful institutions. Most Jewish are the same as everyone else, however there is a fundamental problem with some of them - Zionists and pro-Israelis.

In my honest opinion these Zionist Jews position themselves into a corner more and more every day. Bombing kids throwing rocks, jailing old men for five years for disputing so-called "history?". It's almost like dealing with a cheating wife / girlfriend. The more you dig in to get the truth out of them, the more ridiculously defensive they get. They, just like these Zionist Jews can't stand anyone knowing the hideous truth! they are on the run from their own lies!.

jesuitsdidit
12-10-2009, 01:04 AM
@mek
there r 6 kinds of Zionism
depends which one u r referring to

@rodin
i dont know why Jews historically persecuted by RCC (pagans)
presumably coz they were the first to believe in God as one being
and refute idols

will deal wth this again 2moro..

meksar
12-10-2009, 01:06 AM
To get it all into perspective

Vatican City- Spiritual and Intelligence centre

City of London- Financial and Corporate centre

Washington D.C- Political and Military centre

jesuitsdidit
12-10-2009, 01:39 AM
To get it all into perspective

Vatican City- Spiritual and Intelligence centre

City of London- Financial and Corporate centre

Washington D.C- Political and Military centre

my view

vatican top of pramid
london n w'ton outposts of the Anti-Christ..

bendoon
12-10-2009, 02:07 AM
Every time the Pope goes off message they wheel some story out about Catholic Priests abusing children to get him back into line.

So who is pulling the strings ? certainly not the Pope

realy
12-10-2009, 04:23 AM
Every time the Pope goes off message they wheel some story out about Catholic Priests abusing children to get him back into line.

So who is pulling the strings ? certainly not the Pope

interesting.

rodin
12-10-2009, 07:26 PM
Every time the Pope goes off message they wheel some story out about Catholic Priests abusing children to get him back into line.

So who is pulling the strings ? certainly not the Pope

Yes seems to me the Vatican is controlled not controlling

bemore
12-10-2009, 07:34 PM
Why did millions of jews die in both WWs along with millions of other people if they are the ones controling the NWO????

Is it some revenge tactic for the holocaust or just a switch in power???

realy
12-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Why did millions of jews die in both WWs along with millions of other people if they are the ones controling the NWO????

Is it some revenge tactic for the holocaust or just a switch in power???

cause the 'power jews' wanted certain jews who would stand in the way of there master plan exterminated.

meksar
12-10-2009, 08:09 PM
Why did millions of jews die in both WWs along with millions of other people if they are the ones controling the NWO????

Is it some revenge tactic for the holocaust or just a switch in power???

Millions of Jews did not die and the holocaust is inflated like a balloon and its only a matter of time before it bursts in their faces. Jewish people were rounded up for deportation by the Nazi's, but the Rothschilds understood the common Jews were worth more dead than alive. 20 million Ukrainians were killed in cold blood by that Zionist agent Stalin, have you ever seen a Hollywood film about that?, or what about Arabs by mercilessly slaughtered by these imposter Jews on land that does not and will never rightfully belong to them.

jesuitsdidit
12-10-2009, 08:30 PM
cause the 'power jews' wanted certain jews who would stand in the way of there master plan exterminated.

rubbish
visit vaticanassassins.org

jesuitsdidit
12-10-2009, 08:32 PM
Yes seems to me the Vatican is controlled not controlling

what is yr definition of Vatican?

realy
12-10-2009, 08:39 PM
rubbish
visit vaticanassassins.org

i think you=eric jon phelps
:D

meksar
13-10-2009, 02:21 AM
Why did millions of jews die in both WWs along with millions of other people if they are the ones controling the NWO????

Is it some revenge tactic for the holocaust or just a switch in power???

There are plenty of Historians who know the official version Holocaust is a fraud, but they don't want to end up in prison for questioning the Zionist version of WWII. Proves the Holocaust is a hoax and that Zionists are the real leaders in many Western countries and increasingly the world.

teardropexplodes
13-10-2009, 02:46 AM
Eric John Phelps? How can anyone seriously push that idiot on here? He is even more of a disinfo agent than Alex Cohen.

realy
13-10-2009, 07:09 AM
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/nobel_dees.jpg

bendoon
14-10-2009, 03:50 AM
Alex Cohen.

Would that be the person sometimes known as Alex Cohen-Jones by any chance ? :D :D

yozhik
14-10-2009, 09:13 AM
Yes seems to me the Vatican is controlled not controlling

You've overlooked the role Switzerland plays.

The Swiss Guards are the guards of The Vatican.
Are they there for his protection and to ensure his safety? Or are they there to protect 'their'a sset and to ensure his compliance?

B.I.S ... based in Switzerland.
The Central Banks', Central Bank.
Has a signed 'sovereignty' agreement with all major countries.

rodin
14-10-2009, 10:19 AM
There are plenty of Historians who know the official version Holocaust is a fraud, but they don't want to end up in prison for questioning the Zionist version of WWII. Proves the Holocaust is a hoax and that Zionists are the real leaders in many Western countries and increasingly the world.

Yep. Controlling the money and what you can say and hear. Thats a surefire signpost