View Full Version : Windows 7 can track your every move
rodin
07-10-2009, 01:37 PM
And I don't mean on the internet - I mean physically.
Geo-tracking is the new buzz - in an inverse of sat nav which informs you where YOU are - geo-tracking is to tell THEM where you are.
From FireEagle to iPhone apps that use your current location, everyone it seems is racing to get on the geo-aware software bandwagon. So far most geo-aware features have been opt-in and offer reasonable privacy controls (FireEagle is a good example of this), but Microsoft’s upcoming Windows 7 plans to offer developers location tools at the operating system level and the company doesn’t seem to think users care about control or privacy.
Before you freak out at the thought that Redmond will soon be tracking your every move, keep in mind that the new features will be disabled by default. That’s the good news.
The bad news is that if you turn the geo features on, there are very few controls available and, yes, Microsoft could easily track your every move. Now you can freak out.
According to CNet, which saw a demo of the new geo features, once the service is turned on, there are only two means of limiting the geo-tracking — you can either limit to a specific user, or you can limit it to just traditional applications (rather than services running in the background).
But here’s the essential problem: If you enable the geo-tracking for say, a restaurant searching app in your gadgets collection, there’s no way to stop other apps from accessing your location as well. It’s an all or nothing feature.
http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Windows_7_Will_Let_Microsoft_Track_Your_Every_Move
You should assume your exact physical is already being beamed to Tel Aviv implemented by backdoors, connection ID etc. in any device you carry that is connected to any global network. Imagine this feature is considered as 'war intelligence'.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78551
djhooker
07-10-2009, 02:00 PM
good job i use vista then!
martg
07-10-2009, 02:07 PM
keep in mind that the new features will be disabled by default
hmm, yeah sure :rolleyes:
I'll stick with XP ;)
flyermay
07-10-2009, 02:55 PM
They can track you already through your mobile, can't they :confused:
yozhik
07-10-2009, 03:08 PM
mobile and router
logos880
07-10-2009, 04:17 PM
The more powerful the tool the more potential for misuse.
rollotomaz1
07-10-2009, 04:18 PM
mobile and router
And much much more, all of which will fit neatly inside your very own, and wait for it, little black box recorder, the size of a cigarette packet or smaller which could be fitted to any new car, its all there waiting for the NWO to give the go ahead,
Every car with tracker and whacker, whacker includes self confessional speeding fines,
Automaticaly stop when you last drove antwhere if you have no insurance, tax, mot etc,
GPS now tracking 24-7 with personal driver information.
Mobile phone fines if using phone whilst car is driving even if not in driving seat.
they are thinking of fitting regulating speed devices where a car can be dissabled by police wanting to your stolen car,
Speed limiter when in town speed limits, this one was invented way back in 1990 by Leeds univercity.
Its all as cheap as chips
rodin
07-10-2009, 04:36 PM
And much much more, all of which will fit neatly inside your very own, and wait for it, little black box recorder, the size of a cigarette packet or smaller which could be fitted to any new car, its all there waiting for the NWO to give the go ahead,
Every car with tracker and whacker, whacker includes self confessional speeding fines,
Automaticaly stop when you last drove antwhere if you have no insurance, tax, mot etc,
GPS now tracking 24-7 with personal driver information.
Mobile phone fines if using phone whilst car is driving even if not in driving seat.
they are thinking of fitting regulating speed devices where a car can be dissabled by police wanting to your stolen car,
Speed limiter when in town speed limits, this one was invented way back in 1990 by Leeds univercity.
Its all as cheap as chips
Lot to be said for an old vehicle that can be repaired without recourse to a computer for diagnostics. Grapes of Wrath stylee
andyh
07-10-2009, 04:57 PM
Nothing new tbh, Dell have been selling pc's and notebooks for yonks with BIOS level tracking, nevermind via the operating system.
Linux is the very embodiment of freedom.
http://distrowatch.com/
rollotomaz1
07-10-2009, 07:32 PM
Nothing new tbh, Dell have been selling pc's and notebooks for yonks with BIOS level tracking, nevermind via the operating system.
Is that like the extreme tracking thing then ? I knew that they can get into any system that is on line and I think see what your typing before its posted but don't quote me on that one,
I know a guy who used to be a private dick, this was a few years ago now and the stuff he has then, was mind blowing, he showed me the contents of a case he had at work with him one evening and I was amazed at how easy it is to follow you even from his car in another town,
God knows what they have thats mobile now and probably so small you wouldn't see it if it was in front of you, which I suppose is our computer today,
rollotomaz1
07-10-2009, 07:36 PM
The more powerful the tool the more potential for misuse.
When the tv goes fully digital thats going the walk, I will keep the PC for a while yet though, its much better than the TV anyway and you don't need a tv licence as far as I know, anyone have a firm on that one,
realy
07-10-2009, 08:34 PM
When the tv goes fully digital thats going the walk, I will keep the PC for a while yet though, its much better than the TV anyway and you don't need a tv licence as far as I know, anyone have a firm on that one,
the newer tv sets are gonna be stereoscopic 3d. they probably will start rolling out this holiday season but wont be standard for a few more years.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/10/worlds-first-46-inch-stereoscopic-3d-tv-from-hyundai-on-sale-in/
andyh
07-10-2009, 08:47 PM
Is that like the extreme tracking thing then ? I knew that they can get into any system that is on line and I think see what your typing before its posted but don't quote me on that one,
I know a guy who used to be a private dick, this was a few years ago now and the stuff he has then, was mind blowing, he showed me the contents of a case he had at work with him one evening and I was amazed at how easy it is to follow you even from his car in another town,
God knows what they have thats mobile now and probably so small you wouldn't see it if it was in front of you, which I suppose is our computer today,
http://www.absolute.com/products
It's called computrace, it works from the BIOS, you don't need any software installed on the OS at all, works on any pc with any operating system inc linux.
Intel also do asset tracking on their mobos along with the likes of Asus,Gigabyte etc etc.
realy
07-10-2009, 09:47 PM
http://www.absolute.com/products
It's called computrace, it works from the BIOS, you don't need any software installed on the OS at all, works on any pc with any operating system inc linux.
Intel also do asset tracking on their mobos along with the likes of Asus,Gigabyte etc etc.
if thats the case then the tracker is on the motherboard, probably removing the little battery would help, best thing is to build your own pc anyway.
dantesinferno
08-10-2009, 12:08 AM
All microchips have a specific serial number hard wired into the chip that can be tracked remotely, they can also deactivate the chip remotely, this has been in most chips i.e. Intel and AMD for at least 10 years.
unreality
08-10-2009, 01:10 AM
I'm using Windows 7 (release candidate) right now. It hasn't asked me about my location. It's better than Vista. I also have an iPhone, and apps ask you for permission to track your current location, which you can deny.
Of course, these features have the potential to be abused; but they also have the potential to offer very useful features in apps in the future.
We have to understand not every techological advance is a conspiracy. No-one has been knocking at my door since I owned my iPhone or Windows 7 RC.
dantesinferno
08-10-2009, 01:35 AM
It would be easy for any intelligence agency to access your computer if you are connected to the internet, all operating systems have hidden back doors programmed into them,
as stated in the original post by Rodin, most hardware like routers and switches have hardwired backdoors in them.
Bottom line is if your are targeted for some reason, even by the police, they will access your system with ease, that is unless you really know what you’re doing security wise, and I dont mean a software firewall and antivirus.
This stuff is common knowledge in the tech industry.
rollotomaz1
08-10-2009, 01:44 AM
All microchips have a specific serial number hard wired into the chip that can be tracked remotely, they can also deactivate the chip remotely, this has been in most chips i.e. Intel and AMD for at least 10 years.
I thought as much, you have just aswered a few of questions I mentioned a few days ago, what we think is our 39 steps is not actually ours at all, again, once we know what they want us to know the can pull it just like WTC 7 and then something that has done a lot of the thinking for us will be gone and the children of the modern world will loose another vital and mental ability, maybe it will be a good thing if it does hapen because it will them allow them to start thinking for themselves.
I wonder if this is what they have been doing so we buy more newer and better computers, does anyone know how much further we can go with the old type chips before people get bored with them, are we at the pinnacle of the highest speed yet.
skunksmash
08-10-2009, 01:46 AM
when will you lot learn :p....nothing which is plugged into the phone-line is safe, NOTHING!!
any encryption software, firewall, password can be bypassed using the same software your using to encrypt, lock or hide it...
its just code at the end of the day, anyone can edit code on the worst PC on earth....TPTB use mind boggling supercomps to churn out code...
this does not mean everyone is monitored & all media is cataloged, it just means if you pop up on their radar for whatever reason they can access anything on a HDD plugged into the net. :(
Iall operating systems have hidden back doors programmed into them
Really? Linux too?
dantesinferno
08-10-2009, 02:02 AM
Really? Linux too?
good point..
I would think so yes, unless you compile the kernel yourself and check the code then who knows what’s in there in the end?
Not saying every build would have it but I would imagine that the finals do.
But then I am just assuming with linux, so could be wrong, lots of geeks check that shit so also hard to imagine that someone wouldnt find it.
Edit#
this is interesting
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7388
adzboarder
08-10-2009, 02:16 AM
OMG so does that mean that "they" will know that I am sitting in exactly the same place like I do every single night reading bullshit like this in the David Icke forum?
Oh the heavens! Lord Save us!
My privacy has been invaded, INVADED I tell you!
Ahem.
Yes and in more worrying news, have you seen Google Latitude where all these funky kids with their Ipod-phones can track and trace where their mates are! It's worse on mobile technology because you take them everywhere with you. Don't worry I am sure there will be a massive news story soon across all media where the police were able to save a child's life and it's all thanks to Google Latitude (tm) halleleujah, halleleujah praise the lord!
Then everyone wants to be on Google Latitude and everyone can track everyone everywhere all the time. Wow isn't Google wonderful!
We are being processed like cattle every single day....
good point..
I would think so yes, unless you compile the kernel yourself and check the code then who knows what’s in there in the end?
Not saying every build would have it but I would imagine that the finals do.
But then I am just assuming with linux, so could be wrong, lots of geeks check that shit so also hard to imagine that someone wouldnt find it.
Too many paranoid eyes looking at the same code. :)
Edit#
this is interesting
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7388
Great example, somebody tried to slip rotten patch but something like that gets detected on time.
dantesinferno
08-10-2009, 02:20 AM
lol a good rule is if you don’t want people to know something then keep it in your head, oh but then don’t they have tech to look in there?
But on a serious note again, privacy is virtually a thing of the past sadly, give it a decade and it will be all but gone.
655321
08-10-2009, 04:34 AM
Can it suck any harder than Vista?
xapla
08-10-2009, 07:16 AM
If you are fed up with windows why not try gnu/linux, an open community of people work on the software. I recommend trying ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com) if your a newbie. I've been using it for a long time now, it's rock solid. I can do everything that I want to on it. There are some limitations when it comes to certain pieces of software, such as gaming, and other products which are targeted specifically towards windblows, but even then it is still possible to get around this on linux.
anyuser
08-10-2009, 07:46 AM
If you are worried about privacy use this free service (others are also around by searching for vpn) but a free one is www.itshidden.com . If your provider blocks pttp traffic you may have to google search openvpn to get one that works for you if your blocked. Also itshidden has an update for if your blocked so perhapse they went open vpn too. Anywho,
How is my privacy maintained?
When you connect to ItsHidden.com we create a 'Tunnel'. This is another word for a connection between us and you. All data in this 'Tunnel' is encrypted so that only you and ItsHidden.com know the contents of what is being sent. The data is encrypted to 128 Bits. This is an excellent level of security whilst maintaining good levels of performance, even on older machines and lower powered devices such as Phones and Netbooks.
Whatever your computer may be doing won't be your concern b/c you won't have to worry about privacy anymore. It is always good to check your pc for viruses/spyware/worms & stuff though but if one slips through, you won't have to worry about what that botnet is doing while your computer is infected.
I remember one time my pc was working fine but it had about 4500 incoming connections & 2274 outgoing connections bC THE Av cough some crap & put it in the quarantine bin. Unfortunately I didn't know that the files inside the quarantine bin still can function so when I checked about a month later, I had the above stats. I never did figure out what the heck the crap was, but had I been protected, I would be a lot less wondering. Anywho, use those vpn lines people.
noewhan
08-10-2009, 01:16 PM
I've updated to W7. It's a lot faster than Vista, much better... But still there's always something wrong with Microsnuff.
I don't mind if they track me. It's good that they waste time on me and not someone else.
white rabbit
08-10-2009, 06:06 PM
If you are fed up with windows why not try gnu/linux, an open community of people work on the software. I recommend trying ubuntu (http://ubuntu.com) if your a newbie. I've been using it for a long time now, it's rock solid. I can do everything that I want to on it. There are some limitations when it comes to certain pieces of software, such as gaming, and other products which are targeted specifically towards windblows, but even then it is still possible to get around this on linux.
It will be a good idea to promote linux use to have a free(freedom, not spyware) computer here in the forums, I use it since red hat 9, I use ubuntu because is very nice with a debian base
I doubt Linux has hidden back doors with so many eyes on the source code it would not be hidden for long.
rydeon
08-10-2009, 07:40 PM
Lot to be said for an old vehicle that can be repaired without recourse to a computer for diagnostics. Grapes of Wrath stylee
That's one of the reasons I own an old landrover...