There are problems in the world because ... (Poll)

[deathcultreject]

Just thought I'd put it to the vote

Further discussion on the matter is welcome on this thread.

[mike martin]

Because people live here!

Mike

[simplysimon]

Other

Because I still have so much to learn

[deathcultreject]

Because people live here!

Mike

Well that's not going to put people's minds at rest if they think you guys are controlled by an inner secret society who want to cull the human herd. :eek:

Can you be a bit more specific about what you mean by that?

[phildee3]

Other.
There are too many government officials in freemasonry.

[deathcultreject]

Other.
There are too many government officials in freemasonry.

Makes sense to me.

[keystone]

Other becaue there are too few people in government applying genuine masonic principals to their life and work irrespective of whether or not they are freemasons.

Cheers

[montag]

There are no problems, only solutions - John Lennon

[keystone]

There are no problems, only solutions - John LennonI prefer "challenges" to "problems" myself.

Cheers

[montag]

I prefer "challenges" to "problems" myself.

Cheers
Or opportunities for growth :D

[cheeney1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq7FKO5DlV0


more like this too many twats in suits white collar crimanals

[deathcultreject]

Other becaue there are too few people in government applying genuine masonic principals to their life and work irrespective of whether or not they are freemasons.

Cheers

Does this mean that there are freemasons in government who are corrupt freemasons?

[truth finder]

because humans inhabbit here, not all are bad....but there are an awfull lot in the world......

P.S i choose other...

[deathcultreject]

because humans inhabbit here, not all are bad....but there are an awfull lot in the world......

P.S i choose other...

You're not saying 'cull the herd' are you?

I'd say it's because abusers seek too much power, and the rest of us don't do enough to stop them.

Too many people give their personal empowerment away, giving power to the bad guys.

[free thinker]

I chose other, because there are people in government who can pull strings much more than any Freemason can!

[flyermay]

I chose other, because there are people in government who can pull strings much more than any Freemason can!

+1

[eastbeast]

Other.

Not enough common sense is applied, too much time and money is wasted in pointless arguaments, too many people are doing 'nothing' jobs, too many people are being paid to study for 'nothing' jobs, too many people are being paid FAR too much money for doing far little (e.g. Footballers)

And

Lastly
Not enough people go to Church anymore,
There is too much violence on TV and in Video games.

You don't get respect by pointing a Gun at someone.

[martg]

Other

because of me :o

[element]

I don't think the existence we live in will ever be without problems. Birth and death are the reality here, and so is suffering. In a temporary existence where things like time and matter are the norms, you will never be without problems.

Situations can improve, but problems will never dissappear here because of what I said above.

[keystone]

Does this mean that there are freemasons in government who are corrupt freemasons?Errm no that is not what I said. Failing to apply the principals fully does not imply corruption for one single nanosecond.

Cheers

[krakhead]

None of the above. We have problems because we have people.

[deathcultreject]

Errm no that is not what I said. Failing to apply the principals fully does not imply corruption for one single nanosecond.

Cheers

So you wouldn't throw them out?

[deathcultreject]

None of the above. We have problems because we have people.

Out of curiosity,

Do you live in Bridgend?

[barney_rubble]

Other

Greed!

[keystone]

So you wouldn't throw them out?I think we are at cross purposes and its getting slowly worse. Shall we start again. What specifically did you not understand or was I woolly about in my first post?

Cheers

[deathcultreject]

Other becaue there are too few people in government applying genuine masonic principals to their life and work irrespective of whether or not they are freemasons.

Cheers

So people in government who are masons aren't applying masonic principles to their life and work?

If so, you see this as failure to do so, rather than corruption.

[jimj_wpg]

There are problems in the world because . . .

The Reptilians & Dragons did it!

[skaff]

Does this mean that there are freemasons in government who are corrupt freemasons?

There are people in the world that are corrupt freemasons
There are freemasons in the world that are corrupt people
However that does not translate to all freemasons being corrupt!

I chose other because i feel the human race has started talking the term 'race' literally.

Also, the choices given hardly reflect the magnitude of the question

[ksigmason]

Man is to blame for the problems of the world. Man is err to corruption and greed, no matter what group he is affiliated with. I know some politicians who are Freemasons, but hardly ever attend Lodge. I would find it a shame if the politicians who are in office and Freemasons could not practice the Masonic values and principles.

[angelthecat]

You are not going to believe this but there is a problem in the world because of "The curse of Canaan"
and they hate their enforced masters? [us the from the tribe of Shem (true Semites) and that is an ultimate truth, from the second beginning] ;) This is why they keep to their own bloodline [they do believe that book and it does not matter if you do, it is the book of rules to this crazy chess game, you are just a pawn, so learn the rules, get to the other side of the board and choose which player you want to be]

[the rational thinker]

There are no problems, only solutions - John Lennon

There are no solutions, only tradeoffs - the rational thinker

[phildee3]

Some god divided us into male and female.
We've been fighting ever since.

[lightgiver]

Some god divided us into male and female.
We've been fighting ever since.

Nonsense.

[phildee3]

Nonsense.

See?

[lightgiver]

See?

See what,I just dont agree thats all,but if thats your opinion thats fine.

[marisabia]

Nonsense.

That was the first word that game to my mind.

[tarragon]

Just substitute republican and democrat,
or christian and moslem,
or capitalist and communist,
or sephardic and ashkenazi
or dog and cat, etc.etc.,etc.
We've been fighting ever since.

It's called the Hegelian dialectic.
or the Machiavellian principle,
or divide and conquer.

Wow... have we got some big thinkers here.

[phildee3]

See what, I just dont agree



Exactly.

[lightgiver]

Exactly.

Some god


Which god are you talking about ?

divided us into male and female.


You come from your mothers ovum and your fathers sperm...Male and Female.

[phildee3]

Which god are you talking about ?



The creator-god in the book of Genesis:

"The LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman."



You come from your mothers ovum and your fathers sperm...Male and Female.



Correct.
Where did the first mother and father come from?
According to Moses, his god divided the original human body into two and this was the beginning of conflict in the world.
Gen. 3:15 "I will put enmity between thee and the woman."

All problems in the world (imo) are the result of conflict.
Moses describes the origin of conflict.

[lightgiver]

The creator-god in the book of Genesis:

"The LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; and the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman."



Correct.
Where did the first mother and father come from?
According to Moses, his god divided the original human body into two and this was the beginning of conflict in the world.
Gen. 3:15 "I will put enmity between thee and the woman."

All problems in the world (imo) are the result of conflict.
Moses describes the origin of conflict.

Eve (Hebrew: חַוָּה, Ḥawwāh in Classical Hebrew, Modern Israeli Hebrew: "Khavah", Arabic:حواء) was, according to the Canonical texts, the first woman and the second person created by God, (although Eve was preceded by Lillith in the Apocrypha) and an important figure in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3561/reptiles4001.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/reptiles4001.jpg/)

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1060138346&postcount=161

[phildee3]

Eve (Hebrew: חַוָּה, Ḥawwāh in Classical Hebrew, Modern Israeli Hebrew: "Khavah", Arabic:حواء) was, according to the Canonical texts, the first woman and the second person created by God,



Correct.
But he created her out of Adam's body parts.
He divided Adam,

and division is at the root of conflict.

[lightgiver]

Correct.
But he created her out of Adam's body parts.
He divided Adam,

and division is at the root of conflict.

"Allah created the sexes, the male and the female,
from a drop of ejected semen.... He who is the Lord of Sirius
-----Sura 53,The Koran

Royal and Priest imply that it was the Sirian group that encouraged Adam and Eve to eat of the Tree of Knowledge in the story of the Garden of Eden, as contained in the Bible.

The last one, Ninti (Lady Rib), is also a pun on Lady Life, a title of ... who was made from the rib of Adam, in a strange reflection of the Sumerian myth

Pine al G land
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7835/whitehallcaduceus.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/whitehallcaduceus.jpg/)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_13a.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

[mcstyles21]

Other - The world is fucked due to the Ego, spiritual imbalance where the ego wants everything - greed, money, superstar status, power, attention, anything it can get to survive. This false identity that rules our consciousness is why people think of 'me, me, me' instead of us.

[phildee3]

"Allah created the sexes, the male and the female,
from a drop of ejected semen.... He who is the Lord of Sirius
-----Sura 53,The Koran

Royal and Priest imply that it was the Sirian group that encouraged Adam and Eve to eat of the Tree of Knowledge in the story of the Garden of Eden, as contained in the Bible.

The last one, Ninti (Lady Rib), is also a pun on Lady Life, a title of ... who was made from the rib of Adam, in a strange reflection of the Sumerian myth

Pine al G land
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7835/whitehallcaduceus.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/whitehallcaduceus.jpg/)

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_13a.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland

None of which has any relevence to what I said.

[phildee3]

Other - The world is fucked due to the Ego, spiritual imbalance where the ego wants everything - greed, money, superstar status, power, attention, anything it can get to survive. This false identity that rules our consciousness is why people think of 'me, me, me' instead of us.

Exactly.
Which is what I said.
Seperation, division, lack of awareness of the oneness of humanity that was our original state.

[lightgiver]

None of which has any relevence to what I said.

Really.

Some god divided us into male and female.
We've been fighting ever since.

"Allah created the sexes, the male and the female,
from a drop of ejected semen.... He who is the Lord of Sirius
-----Sura 53,The Koran

Freeman Dr. Michael Salla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COkQyogYQmc&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/COkQyogYQmc

Freeman Sirius, Draco, reptiles and Dr. Michael Salla of Exopolitics

Sirius Star System & The Sirians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwZkFJP_2cw&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/xwZkFJP_2cw

Orion, Sirius & The Pyramids Of Egypt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19oxQMVzYE&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/J19oxQMVzYE

[phildee3]

"Allah created the sexes, the male and the female,
from a drop of ejected semen.... He who is the Lord of Sirius
-----Sura 53,The Koran



Different author. Different MS. Different culture. Different creation myth. Nothing to do with what I said.

[jesusistruth]

Sin. No one would be able to touch you if you had no sin.

[herushura]

Religious Schizophrenia

[lightgiver]

Sin. No one would be able to touch you if you had no sin.

Sin (Akkadian: Su'en, Sîn) or Nanna (Sumerian: DŠEŠ.KI, DNANNA) was the god of the moon in Mesopotamian mythology. Nanna is a Sumerian deity, the son of Enlil and Ninlil, and became identified with Semitic Sin. The two chief seats of Nanna's/Sin's worship were Ur in the south of Mesopotamia and Harran in the north.

The Semitic moon god Su'en/Sin is in origin a separate deity from Sumerian Nanna, but from the Akkadian Empire period the two undergo syncretization and are identified.

The original meaning of the name Nanna is unknown. The earliest spelling found in Ur and Uruk is DLAK-32.NA (where NA is to be understood as a phonetic complement). The name of Ur, spelled LAK-32.UNUGKI=URIM2KI, is itself derived from the theonym, and means "the abode (UNUG) of Nanna .

Religious Schizophrenia

Some god divided us into male and female.


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