a wierd dream I just had without cliffnotes

[killuminatiday]

Ok let me first give you a brief preface. I have been dreaming since I was about 20 years old (before that I never had a dream, at least that I am aware of) and I am 30 now. the past two years has been really strange because the dreams are becoming more and more frequent and vivid. lately I have been able to control my dreams in the way that in the past if I realized I was dreaming I would just wake up right away uncontrolably but lately I have been able to stay dreaming even if I became aware during my dreamd along with other controlable variables. I would also like to say Im not a racist or anything and I love and hate everybody equally based on what they do not how they look.

this evening I laid down to go to sleep at about 11pm eastern time but because I had been upset prior to going to sleep it took me about an hour to finally pass out around midnight. So the earliest part of the dream I can remember is I am talking to a girl I used to date, we will call her kristen, who happens to be the love of my life and although circumstances have made it hard for us to be together we still are friends and talk on the phone once in a while.

anyway in my dream we were hangin out in front of her house and she was upset, she was telling me how everything was going wrong in her life recently and how her car had now just broken down and I assured her I can relate as my car is in the same shape as hers tho it still runs but barely. she went on to say that she needed a car to get to work or else her kids were going to starve, I felt horrible about this and quickly offered her my car so she can get to work and such.

now after this part of the dream I seem to not be able to remember what happened next, there seems to be a blackout or something as sometimes happens. anyway the next part of the dream I remember is Im in my car with her and we are driving and chatting and I feel like someone else is in the car with us but I dont see anyone. anyway after driving and chatting about meaningless everyday stuff we pull up in front of her house and she says I need to run inside to get a drink and some cigs so I say ok I will wait here. next thing I know this black guy jumps in the driver seat and I remember thinking he was the other guy in the car who I felt but couldnt see. he starts to drive away while Im in the passenger seat and Im saying "who the fuck are you?" "where the fuck are you going" and he says "fuck you dont worry about it bitch".

so again the next part of the dream seems to be a blackout but the next part I recall of the dream is I am sitting there and he reaches into the middle console of my car and pulls out 37 dollars and pockets it. Im like "dude wtf thats all the money I got, and Im giving it to Kristen, I promise you Im gonna kill you if you dont give it back" he then pulls out a gun and lays it on his lap. I shut up briefly and I remember thinking about something but now I cant remember what.

eventually he pulls up in front of this house I lived in when I first met the girl in this dream and since the car is stopped I make a grab for the gun and the money which are both sitting in his lap and he grabs it first and bolts from the car and starts walkin away. I remember thinking fuck this shit and Im goin after him and I get out the car. as I step out the car I look towards the house and I see my mom talking to an elderly couple who I clearly remember thinking looked mighty swedish (this is weird because I live in the states) I wave to them and run after the black guy and he turns around before I can reach him and he shoots me twice in the left shoulder and neck area. in the dream I remember feeling pain and shock and feel like Im dying and I look around as I hit the ground and the swedish people are dancing. at this point I wake up and I am semi convulsing, I was shaking as if i really was shot for about 5 minutes after I woke up.

anyway I just wanted to see if anyone here has any opinions or views as to what this might mean because Im not versed in what dreams mean. thanks for reading

[alrick888]

And was there any part in this dream where you started to realize you were dreaming? And took control of it?

Because I can't imagine you like the way it ended now.

[relax]

Absolutely stunned that you dont recall any dream before 20, that is VERY strange.

[killuminatiday]

And was there any part in this dream where you started to realize you were dreaming? And took control of it?

Because I can't imagine you like the way it ended now.

lol no I didnt like the way it ended but I really couldnt control it after the point where I got shot, it seems to me I just died in my dream and then I woke up shaking violently but not in a scared way more so in the way that somone would shake from the shock of getting shot. it was a very disturbing dream to say the least

[alrick888]

Okay, it seems to me the thing for you to do would be to ask 'Kirsten' if she has made any new friends lately. You could confront her and ask directly if she has somebody else now. Then if she asks why, you can say you have been having these visions and you feel she is in severe danger. Try to do this out of genuine concern for her and not let any jealous feelings take over.

That would be a way to find out if this is just something you made up by worrying over the possibility, or if it is based in some real situations she is in. Because the mind can make up such stories as an excuse for not being willing to let go of someone from the past.

But even it were real, the ending of the dream seems to suggest probably the only thing you can do about it is warn her. And after that you would have to let go of it.

[killuminatiday]

that sounds like good advice, I will try that. TY

[chrysoprase]

I have some experience in dream interpretation - so I would like to try to analyze this.

First of all, when a caucasion (not sure if you are but I am guessing) has a dream of a black person either taking the place of someone or all of a sudden just appearing - it means a change in attitude.

For instance, I was in a relationship (I was in love) but things were not going as well as I would have liked. I had a dream that I was having dinner with this man. All of a sudden he was gone and there were about five black people at our table. They were laughing and very happy. <cut to the chase> things got bad very quickly in this relationship. And when this man was out of my life - I realized how much happier I was. Quicker to laugh, enjoying life. I would have never guessed this because I was in love with him. But without him I realized how much joy I was feeling. My attitude towards him changed. I still cared about him. But I cared about myself also - and chose the route of happiness.

Anyways - on to your dream:

You offered Kristen your car: You are generous towards her, and concerned for her well-being.

While you and her are driving you sense someone else is in the car, but can't see them. To me, this would signify that you are sensing something different about Kristen - but only on the subconscious level. (maybe you are blinded by your own love - so cannot see this change consciously). But on a subconscious level your attitude is changing - you just not have recognized it or accepted it.

The guy who took Kristen's place jumps in the driver seat. (he is in charge) He takes money from you. He is taking advantage of you. You ask him "who the fuck are you?". I am guessing that you might see a side of Kristen soon, and that you will not even know her anymore. But she will tell you "not to worry about it"

The fact that you specifically remember it was $37 also has meaning. (but I do not know what that is). The guy hold a gun on his lap. = Kristen is holding you hostage by your emotions toward her - and again, she is in the drivers seat so has the control.

Now for the part where you pull up in front of the house that you used to live in. What comes to your mind first when you think of Swedish people? How would you describe them - off the top off your head?

Also - has your mom every offered any opinions about Kristen? Think about her and the Swedish people (as well as dancing).

It seems that maybe if you would have joined your mom and the Swedish people - instead of running after the guy - you could have avoided being shot.

Of course, take everything I say with a huge grain of salt. Dreams are a funny thing. But if you take the time to remember them, patterns emerge.

Sometimes I have had a dream which I don't know the meaning of until much, much later. I think we all have our own symbology (to a point) so pay attention to that too. I think that our dreams can be kind to us and gently nudge us towards the truth. Sometimes, when alot of symbology is used - it is to gently filter that truth in a slow way until we can accept it. But the use of the gun in the dream seems to be a wake up call.

Interesting dream. If I am wrong about things - please forgive me!

I wish you well. May happiness and fulfillment be yours!

[killuminatiday]

I have some experience in dream interpretation - so I would like to try to analyze this.

First of all, when a caucasion (not sure if you are but I am guessing) has a dream of a black person either taking the place of someone or all of a sudden just appearing - it means a change in attitude.

does this change in attitude always mean a bad change or a good change or could be both?



Now for the part where you pull up in front of the house that you used to live in. What comes to your mind first when you think of Swedish people? How would you describe them - off the top off your head?

Also - has your mom every offered any opinions about Kristen? Think about her and the Swedish people (as well as dancing).

I dont feel anything negative towards swedes in fact I think of them as happy and neutral for the most part, oh and blonde too lol. I also want to make it clearer that the swedes I saw in my dream were dressed the way old school swedes dressed and not like todays modern swedes if that makes sense lol. as far as my mom goes she only met kristen a few times and she liked her but then again my mom loves any woman who is willing to put up with me so im not sure how much that factors in.


It seems that maybe if you would have joined your mom and the Swedish people - instead of running after the guy - you could have avoided being shot.
ya I feel that way too:( i think thats the part of the dream that bothers me most is I went after him and it fucked me so to speak. hopefully I can have this dream again and go with my mom and the swedes next time to see what happens

Interesting dream. If I am wrong about things - please forgive me!

I wish you well. May happiness and fulfillment be yours!

Ya I thought it was interesting too to say the least. I dont think your too far from the truth here and alot of what u say sounds about right, thank you for taking the time to chime in, I appreciate it. good be with you!

[chrysoprase]

Hi killilluminiday!

As far as the change in attitude goes - it just means that you will see/feel things differently. Could be good, could be bad - but it will be different.

The swedes dressed in "old school" clothes is funny. Could it be something about the house you lived in and the "old school" way of thinking/feeling?

It will be interesting to see if you meet a blood swede in your future, who teaches you the old school way of things. Heh.

Take care!

[alrick888]

That's an interesting explanation. The reason I didn't go for the symbological explanation was that the dream was (almost) lucid. But it seems worthwhile to look at it this way.

So the black guy might be another aspect of Kirsten.
Another way to look at it would be as him being an aspect of you, the dreamer. A sort of shadow-side. More violent and possibly exploitative of others. And then see if that makes sense.

[killuminatiday]

well I ended up talking to kristen about this dream today and she told me something kind of disturbing. I started the convo with a lil small talk and then it went something like this

me "so I had this dream the other night and you were in it"

kristen "I had a dream about you too, about a month ago but I didnt have time to call you and tell you about it and then I totally forgot until now"

me "well what happend in your dream?"

kristen "we were hangin out and talking and you were upset about sean" (sean is some kid she has been dating since a lil while after we broke up and dude got his shit together and I dont, she told me about him and I knew so it really wasnt a secret even tho I am obv not happy about it)

me "so what happend next?"

kristen "well you were upset and you were yelling about how sean is bad for me and you were going to do something about it one way or the other" (now you have to understand I am not possesive or typically into threatening anyone)

me "and then?"

kristen "I dont want to talk about it anymore, I shouldnt have said anything in the first place, can we change the subject?"

me " LOL GTFO finish the dream, you cant just say that shit and leave me hangin"

kristen after a long pause "well if you really want to know you started a fight with him and then you pulled a gun on him and said you were going to kill yourself if I didnt dump sean and get back with you" (its important to understand that while I truly do love this girl I would never kill myself over her)

me "thats pretty crazy what happend next?"

kristen "you put the gun to seans head and looked like you were about to pull the trigger when one of his friends appeared out of no where and shot you"

me super shock and long pause "well what else happend next, do you remember anything else?"

kristen "after he shot you they were celebrating about it like they were happy and while this was going on I was crying and they kept laughing at me"

me "what did seans friend who shot me look like?"

kristen "some black kid I never seen before, and I know all his friends it wasnt anybody I knew"

me "did anyone tell you about my dream? your fuckin with me right?"

kristen " um no its true what are you talking about?"

I then told her about my dream and after I finished she sounded as if she was just about to cry again and she said she doesnt want to talk about it anymore so I let it go.

I got to say I have been thinking about this all day and I still cant even grasp what the hell is going on. is it possible for two people to have such a similar dream, I mean it was almost exactly the same as mine for the most part and the worst part is I know for a fact she didnt know about my dream before she told me this

[newworldengineer]

well I guess if there ain't any jealousy issues left on your part, you could cross off the fact that your dream was a spiteful dream about not getting your own way, which included stealing and agression and the like...

It could be an intuitive dream about Sean and his unsavoury compardres, that he's a control freak stealing/vamping off her and he doesn't like the fact that you're still a part of your ex-girlfriends life?

It's quite a demonic dream either way, so maybe you just came face to face with an evil spirit diguised as human fucking with ya cos you have some unresolved shadow processing to do?? Might want to look at what's going on in your life that maybe key to having dreams like this.

[alrick888]

See I told you this dream was not symbolical but literal. That is confirmed by her having the same dream with more detail. It would have been interesting to know if she had it on the same night as you did.

Well the good news is she still dreams about you. So that could even mean she might eventually come back to you. But for that happen you might have to really let her go. You are probably justified in being worried about her. But it still is basically an excuse to not let go of her.

If she wants to be with someone who is bad for her it is painful to watch but it is still her choice. And that can be very hard to accept.

[chrysoprase]

Below is my SECOND response to you. After that you can read my first (and quite opposite) response.

well you were upset and you were yelling about how sean is bad for me and you were going to do something about it one way or the other

Is it possible that she was having an intuitive dream about you and your innermost feelings?

In which case I would say that her behaviour (and dream) is fear on her part because of what she thinks you might do or are capable of. And she is trying not to upset you, but she feels caught in the middle. She just doesn't want anyone to get hurt.

And maybe she didn't even want to hear you dream because she knows how you feel, and just didn't want the conversation to go there - out of feeling protective towards you and your feelings.

For these same reasons she did not want to share all of her dream with you. Out of protection or caring.

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me "so I had this dream the other night and you were in it"

kristen "I had a dream about you too, about a month ago but I didnt have time to call you and tell you about it and then I totally forgot until now"

(when someone says they had a dream about me - I am ALWAYS eager to hear about it.

A friend who I hadn't seen in awhile called and said they had a dream about me - and I also had a dream about them that same night! Well we were both so excited and wanted to share every detail! Even the not so good ones... you couldn't get either one of us to shut up or slow down. We both wanted ALL the information.)

But instead of asking you about your dream, she says WELL I had one too.

(And then you have to prod her to tell you about it?)

me "well what happend in your dream?"

kristen "we were hangin out and talking and you were upset about sean" (sean is some kid she has been dating since a lil while after we broke up and dude got his shit together and I dont, she told me about him and I knew so it really wasnt a secret even tho I am obv not happy about it)

me "so what happend next?"

kristen "well you were upset and you were yelling about how sean is bad for me and you were going to do something about it one way or the other" (now you have to understand I am not possesive or typically into threatening anyone)

me "and then?"

kristen "I dont want to talk about it anymore, I shouldnt have said anything in the first place, can we change the subject?"



She tells you this much and asks to change the subject? If she doesn't want to talk about it and shouldn't have said anything in the first place, then why did she stop you when you told her you had a dream, by saying that she had one too?

If there was something troubling in her dream that she thought you shouldn't know then why didn't she keep it to herself and let you talk about your dream? Is she really that flaky and self-absorbed?

Or was this an attempt at derailing the conversation of your dream - and it backfired on her?

kristen after a long pause "well if you really want to know you started a fight with him and then you pulled a gun on him and said you were going to kill yourself if I didnt dump sean and get back with you" (its important to understand that while I truly do love this girl I would never kill myself over her)

"Well if you really want to know...." Why wouldn't you want to know? She dangles this dream in front of you, and then is a little put out that you would want to know all of it??? I dunno..... already I am not liking Kristen.

She said that you were going to kill yourself - but you instead put the gun to Sean's head.

Do you think that this is how she sees you? Is she upset at telling you this? (she should be). Or is she just uncomfortable in discussing it?

me "thats pretty crazy what happend next?"

kristen "you put the gun to seans head and looked like you were about to pull the trigger when one of his friends appeared out of no where and shot you"

me super shock and long pause "well what else happend next, do you remember anything else?"

kristen "after he shot you they were celebrating about it like they were happy and while this was going on I was crying and they kept laughing at me"

me "what did seans friend who shot me look like?"

kristen "some black kid I never seen before, and I know all his friends it wasnt anybody I knew"


One of Sean's friends appears out of nowhere (those are her words).

According to Kristen she never saw this guy before and she knows all of Sean's friends. But in the dream she described him as Sean's friend who was protecting Sean from you.

You should ask Kristen why (in the dream) she thought of this guy as Sean's friend. And listen more to how she responds, rather than what she says.

Does she get defensive? Does she say she doesn't want to talk about it? Shouldn't she understand and sympathize with YOUR concerns and want to get to the bottom of this? Especially because of the dream you had!

In her dream - you are not only the one who got shot - you are also the instigator. She is the innocent bystander, and the black guy is protecting Sean from your harmful actions. So - is this how things really are (at least in her mind) Does she think you might hurt Sean?

How does she feel about Sean laughing at her tears? I would be interested in knowing her take on this and how it makes her feel.

Does it confuse her feelings? Is this why she doesn't want to talk about it? Is she conflicted and not ready to face her own feelings? If so, you should give her lots of space and let her figure things out.

Personally, I think it shows a great deal of insensitivy on her part to even think to tell you that dream. The one she originally did not have time to tell you - and then forgot, and didn't even remember until you brought the subject up.


"did anyone tell you about my dream? your fuckin with me right?"

kristen " um no its true what are you talking about?"


Umm, no? What are you talking about? You were talking about your dream! Why was she not interested in hearing about it? Why is she playing dumb? The questions a sincere person would ask (and what to know) is "What was your dream?"

And after you tell her your dream - she doesn't want to talk about it! There is something in your dream, that makes her more uncomfortable with herself, then being concerned for you and your well-being. That is a selfish response.

It sounds like she wants to keep you in the picture - but at the same time does not want to discuss things or be open with you.

Anyone who has the maturity and sincerity to care about you (and not just about themself) would not shut you down or ask to change the subject out of discomfort of having the truth revealed.

I say - let Sean have her. She sounds shady and more trouble than it is worth.

Take the love you feel for her and reinvest it back into yourself. There is someone better around the corner for you. (perhaps a beautiful Swedish girl?) But you may not get to meet her until you are ready. And you can't be ready as long as Kristen is in your life.

It could be that Kristen is the bullet that you need to dodge.

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(Also, I have always felt that people who don't like the subject of dreams - have something to hide).

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I then told her about my dream and after I finished she sounded as if she was just about to cry again and she said she doesnt want to talk about it anymore so I let it go.


Some people use tears to get a person to back off - to avoid confrontations with the truth. These people will seem overly sensitive when it comes to protecting themselves - and conversely insensitive when it comes to protecting others.

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Whew! I spent alot of time on that. My posts are usually too long - but this might take the cake - even after editing!

If anything, I hope it causes you to think things through. Wait for her to call you - and be busy/in a hurry. Because she needs to think also.

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May good be with you. ;)

[alrick888]

Huh...what? Nobody even read that post. :rolleyes:

[killuminatiday]

Below is my SECOND response to you. After that you can read my first (and quite opposite) response.



[QUOTE]Is it possible that she was having an intuitive dream about you and your innermost feelings?
I am very new to officially trying to interpret my dreams, in the past I would just have them and wake up and think about it for a lil while but never tried to disect them however I do believe it was an intuitive dream of some sort the more and more I think about this crazyness. I also believe it has something to do with her feeling for me however It will prolly take me a long time to figure this out if ever lol

In which case I would say that her behaviour (and dream) is fear on her part because of what she thinks you might do or are capable of. And she is trying not to upset you, but she feels caught in the middle. She just doesn't want anyone to get hurt.

ya I think she has a lil fear in her that I would be capable of doing something bad to this kid(never to her tho). I dont want to get too into detail but when we met we were pretty young and back then I was a bit of a bad ass as she was too except for the fact I didnt hide my bad assness but she would certainly mask hers and so much so that alot of people who claimed to have known her really didnt know half the shit I knew she was capable of. to be honest tho it was one of the things about her that turned me on, she was like the bonnie to my clyde so to speak. I do agree tho she prolly really does feel trapped in the middle sometimes and even tho she has done some shady shit in the past I know she would never hurt anyone or want to see them hurt.

And maybe she didn't even want to hear you dream because she knows how you feel, and just didn't want the conversation to go there - out of feeling protective towards you and your feelings.

I really do think this is the reason she was so stand offish and evasive about the dream at first. kristen and I have always been opposites when it comes to alot of stuff like for instance Im atheist and she is religous(mostly stuff like that for example sake) but no matter how far apart we were seeing things from each other we always had each others back no matter what and in general she used to be very protective of me in her younger days.



[I](when someone says they had a dream about me - I am ALWAYS eager to hear about it.


But instead of asking you about your dream, she says WELL I had one too.

(And then you have to prod her to tell you about it?)


She tells you this much and asks to change the subject? If she doesn't want to talk about it and shouldn't have said anything in the first place, then why did she stop you when you told her you had a dream, by saying that she had one too?

If there was something troubling in her dream that she thought you shouldn't know then why didn't she keep it to herself and let you talk about your dream? Is she really that flaky and self-absorbed?

Or was this an attempt at derailing the conversation of your dream - and it backfired on her?

I used to feel the same way as you, I would always be intrigued by people having dreams about me but I have to admit lately its not as much fun as it used to be lololol. I think when I mentioned my dream it was just her natural reaction to spit it out right away just because it crossed her mind at that exact moment but I still believe that she wanted to retract it the minute it left her lips. that was the feeling I got anyway, her actions and vibe felt to me like as if she was saying "oh fuck I didnt mean to tell you that" sorta like I caught her in something. In general she does have diarrhea of the mouth alot and it genuinly is accidental 99% of the time, I just think she spouts what every comes to mind without really thinking about how it applies first lol, at times she really does come off as flaky and self absorbed if you dont know her, people actually make this judgement of her alot at first lol. I also think part of it was a backfire at attempting to derail the convo.

"Well if you really want to know...." Why wouldn't you want to know? She dangles this dream in front of you, and then is a little put out that you would want to know all of it??? I dunno..... already I am not liking Kristen.

I think she was just hoping for one last shot that this convo would stop right there and turn into "hey how about them yankees?" lol but ya she does shit like that all the time when she realized she said something she shouldnt have lol. I dont think she felt put out about it I think it was more like fuck now I have to tell him what I know cuz of my big mouth type of deal tho I can be wrong maybe

She said that you were going to kill yourself - but you instead put the gun to Sean's head.

Do you think that this is how she sees you? Is she upset at telling you this? (she should be). Or is she just uncomfortable in discussing it?

ya see this is the part that made me say wtf too! after talking to her and after thinkin about this for a while I just couldnt really understand and I thought maybe she explained it wrong or something so with all my brilliance I called her at work today to harrass her about this dream and convo a bit more lol. Im a glutton for punishment I guess. anyway after briefly talking about this again and upsetting her again she said "you had the gun to his head first, then you aimed the gun at yourself and then at him again" atleast this is how she best recalls it. I suppose this is why she got the feeling I would kill myself but idk I could be wrong. I think she sees me as a loose cannon because thats how I was when I was younger, I have sinced changed but since we broke up before I changed I guess its fair to understand she just really hasnt gotten to see the changed side of me so much.


One of Sean's friends appears out of nowhere (those are her words).

According to Kristen she never saw this guy before and she knows all of Sean's friends. But in the dream she described him as Sean's friend who was protecting Sean from you.

You should ask Kristen why (in the dream) she thought of this guy as Sean's friend. And listen more to how she responds, rather than what she says.

Does she get defensive? Does she say she doesn't want to talk about it? Shouldn't she understand and sympathize with YOUR concerns and want to get to the bottom of this? Especially because of the dream you had!

lol Its kinda wierd how much you and I think alike, it just so happens that was another question I asked her. she claims the reason she assumed this guy was seans friend is because of the way he was protective of sean and also because of the manner in which they were celebrating about me getting shot, she claims it wasnt like they were two strangers celebrating but more like two friends because they were like high fiving and bumping each other(almost like athletes would do, like team mates). at this point she said her boss wanted her and she had to go but she would call me when she got home.


In her dream - you are not only the one who got shot - you are also the instigator. She is the innocent bystander, and the black guy is protecting Sean from your harmful actions. So - is this how things really are (at least in her mind) Does she think you might hurt Sean?

like I said I dont blame her for for feeling I would hurt him because to be honest 6-7 years ago I would have put him in the hospital so fast it would make his head spin. thing is I have really changed it alot as far as my beating people up but even tho I told her this and I think she believes me and understands its true, she either doesnt have evidence of it or she just remembers the old crazy me too much, im not really sure which, maybe its both.

How does she feel about Sean laughing at her tears? I would be interested in knowing her take on this and how it makes her feel.

Does it confuse her feelings? Is this why she doesn't want to talk about it? Is she conflicted and not ready to face her own feelings? If so, you should give her lots of space and let her figure things out.

Personally, I think it shows a great deal of insensitivy on her part to even think to tell you that dream. The one she originally did not have time to tell you - and then forgot, and didn't even remember until you brought the subject up.

to be honest I didnt even go there about asking her how it makes her feel that he laughed at her and I prolly wont in the future lol as its just setting myself up for an allout mindfucking for her and I. I personally think she thinks sean is a dick most of the time and on some level she knows he got some bad karma coming to him for various shit I have heard from her and others about him and stuff he has done but she still cares about him. she was the same way with me and I dont expect it to change really




Umm, no? What are you talking about? You were talking about your dream! Why was she not interested in hearing about it? Why is she playing dumb? The questions a sincere person would ask (and what to know) is "What was your dream?"

And after you tell her your dream - she doesn't want to talk about it! There is something in your dream, that makes her more uncomfortable with herself, then being concerned for you and your well-being. That is a selfish response.

Im not convinced that she didnt want to hear it so much as she knew she didnt want to relive it, from the beginning of the convo she was uncomfortable about the whole thing and I think its mostly because her dream(even before I told her mine) rattled her somehow and when I told her or attempted to tell her my dream she knew it wasnt gonna be a fairytale type lol. the more I think about her, me, and this dream I start to think she really does want me to be the one shes with but she is opting to go with him because he can provide the house and stability she and her kids need where as I am more of a "what do we need a house for? we got love baby" type




Whew! I spent alot of time on that. My posts are usually too long - but this might take the cake - even after editing!

If anything, I hope it causes you to think things through. Wait for her to call you - and be busy/in a hurry. Because she needs to think also.


May good be with you. ;)

Ya brotha this might be the longest post I have yet to make on this forum lolol but its worth it for such a crazy topic. good to all and to all a good nite

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well I guess if there ain't any jealousy issues left on your part, you could cross off the fact that your dream was a spiteful dream about not getting your own way, which included stealing and agression and the like...

It could be an intuitive dream about Sean and his unsavoury compardres, that he's a control freak stealing/vamping off her and he doesn't like the fact that you're still a part of your ex-girlfriends life?

It's quite a demonic dream either way, so maybe you just came face to face with an evil spirit diguised as human fucking with ya cos you have some unresolved shadow processing to do?? Might want to look at what's going on in your life that maybe key to having dreams like this.

Ya really Im not jealous at all, Im completely understanding of why she is with him, for her and her kids its just a much better fit. I really do feel this dream is very intuitive in regards to sean and his friends and I do feel hes a shit heel and doesnt deserve her. I know it drives him nuts that she is with him but still hangs with me here and there and calls me alot, I think it actually helps me cope with not being with her, it gives me satisfaction knowing she would rather be with me but she cant cuz I dont have my shit together. I smile when I think of how pissed he must get knowing it too lol.

Im not sold on the dream being demonic and the such but more so just a sign that things could be getting worse if I purue her more. It has however made me realize I can and should be looking at life in different ways than I have been. Im hoping this is the last horrible dream I have for a while.