when will we all start fighting back and how?

[thebeach2002]

Hi i keep reading that this and that is happening behind the scene false reality
and i 100% agree with is eg twin towers, crime and order,iluminati etc, the problem is we are all banging on about the corruption and mind controls that are rife in sociaty and the hidden agenda, and david is bang on with problem reaction and solution, but i need to ask ,when and how do we start fighting back , we all on here have or are having our eyes now wide open and looking behind the big brother scenario, but i feel frustrated as i want to be able to take action , i have spoken out to friends and familly and as david points out one of the key things is not to be afraid of what people think of the truths, but i feel its not enough
how do you change things when you have no money to get away from the rat race and planned agenda of the few
is there not more WE can all do
the truth will prevail
gary

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

yep that is a problem for all of us, well alot of us lol

it would be nice to have a fund or something to chuck our spare 20c peices in ove3r the nbext few years, or a massive joint bank account. but the prob is that someone wuld eploit it...difficult problem, maybe we could make contact groups or communities that could stockpile food for a planned number of participants...i dunno...just thinking out load i guess

[cruise4]

There's only one thing to be done by most of us at this point... spread the relevant news as wide and as far as possible.

[binhdinh_khiwarrior]

yeah i thinks that's probably about the limit we could do until (unless u go vigilante-and that's dangerous for everyone-even us). personally i am trying to find these "reptillians" with my mind, and attacking the integrity of thier energy fields,i don't see much point in directing that sort of attack to say Bush, coz if Icke's right then he's not even in control of himself. sending love throughout the world as a vibration couldn't hurt either...

[cruise4]

Vigilante time may come but although it sounds romantic, the reality would be a pain in the butt. It would be nice to get some sense into proceedings before then. But if we have to fight, I'll fight. They are not having a free ride and I'm not scared of dying as I believe we don't die.

[zigzagz]

Seems to me that the "fighting" is what got us here in the first place. The only way any idividual is going to experience a better reality is by actual self improvement, no offense but bitching about what everyone else is doing and how you are doing nothing to stop it is the attitude that landed us all in this reality. I think that if there are infinite possibilities then your consciousness is matched to possibility by frequency and the best way to change the possibiliy you land in at the next moment is to change yourself improve you attitude and raise your frequency. It's just a theory...and it sounds bitchier than I intended so I apologize in advance.

[soglad]

Ignore it and don't get involved. I myself have been "boycotting" society for a while now. I don't work (unless it's real work like growing food etc. which I plan to do when I leave this God-forsaken city) and I don't apply myself to falsities. I only go out with my friends all the time to parks, walks along the sea-side, pubs but I don't drink/get drunk. I'm pretty easy on the world, I don't consume much and as Ghandi said:

"Be the change you want to see in the world."

So I'm trying my best to get to my goal of being totally self sufficient.

Love & Peace!

Soglad.

[cruise4]

Ignore it by all means. Personally I think that will not stop them from carting you off at the first opportunity. If that occurs and you still don't fight then you committed suicide in my opinion.

If you turn out to be right then precautions won't matter but that is putting all your eggs in one basket... not a good idea.

Fighting is a problem. We all know that. But if someone is smashing your face in then what choice do you have?

"The only way any idividual is going to experience a better reality is by actual self improvement" only really applies on a personal level. If the cause is exterior to the person, then this attitude doesn't actually help.

But if someone can 'prove' we are in a holographic universe and prove the world will re-juvenate (or whatever), then I won't worry about the 5 sense matrix. But so far no-one has even come close. It could also be argued that Belief systems have got us to the point we are today.

[the_pale_man]

But if someone can 'prove' we are in a holographic universe and prove the world will re-juvenate (or whatever), then I won't worry about the 5 sense matrix. But so far no-one has even come close.

But cruise, if we ARE in a matrix, then it is absolutely impossible to actually prove that we are in a matrix, because "proof" would be irrefutable physical evidence, and irrefutable physical evidence does not exist within a virtual reality program.

Imagine that you are dreaming, and that you suddenly realize that you are dreaming. How could you possibly prove to someone else in that dream that you are both inside of a dream, when everything that exists, even your own bodies, are imaginary?

[thebeach2002]

hi all its nice to know im not the only one feeling this way,
i like the ignore it and drop out response, to try and live life the way you want to has got to be right, also if you give off love you should attract the same vibrations is also cool, over the years i worry about this and that , and its always happens i seem to induce the things im worried about.
i have always had the believe and used the thoughts treat others how they treat you but i only now see that this is wrong as im judging them when i deal with them , but i have no right to judge others surely. the gandi quote is one of the best things i have heard.
when i used the phrase when do we start fighting back ,i didnt meanin the violent sense i meant in a positive action way and yes i agree , fighting is how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
i just need to learn a way to get my head around negitive thoughts and learn how to stay in a positive mode , learning HOW TO IGNORE IT, any ideas will be welcomed, how do you do it how to you manage to ignore it and live your life true to you, i love the ideal of self-sufficent life , whats frustrating is that i dont need material things , yet i fight myself all the time,what if this or that, how can i, you know all the same old thing
anyway thanks for you suggestions
peace to you all
gary

[majicdragon]

When we no longer have a choice, we'll fight back by growing our own food and dropping out of society.

[agate]

When we no longer have a choice, we'll fight back by growing our own food and dropping out of society.

To somebody who has a job.

1, Knowing how to protect yourself by the (human right) laws, in which country you are living.

2, Do not ask for or accept your coming promotion for any reason either for the company or for your family.

3, Do not change your job career only for making more money, for the money never belongs to you, but being put into the illuminati's bank.

4, Do not accept any job offers from any job agents, for most of the job agents are the family members of the illuminati, in order to manipulate people to move from lower class to higher, or change locations from close to far.

5, Only change your job for your living convenience or LOVE reasons, and do not hesitate.
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Throw out any FEAR even if you have to face the BOSS.

Learn to be an Virus in the illuminati control system.

[zigzagz]

"The only way any idividual is going to experience a better reality is by actual self improvement" only really applies on a personal level. If the cause is exterior to the person, then this attitude doesn't actually help.


I don't think you understood what I was trying to say, it has to do with infinite possibility...I believe that each individual conscious experience is a match between a frequency of the consciousness to the reality that consciousness will experience in the next moment meaning if you are in a good stable place psychologically then the next moments wave functon will collapse into a more suitable reality for that attitude/emotional state, (in your percieved individual experience at least, remember that we are not matter but only potential matter therefore every possibility exists it is up to each individual consciousness to "decide" which possibility to experience by deciding ones own emotional state) conversly the worse the psychological state of the consciousness the worse the reality that consciousness will experience...unfortunately most of us in this particular reality are victims of the one step forward two steps back syndrome....It's really complicated(and I am probably doing a pretty crappy job explaining it) but in my theory we have more control than you were interpreting. I don't believe we should ignore the problem at all I believe we should fix the prolem and the only way to do that is individual self improvement in my opinion but what the fuck do I know anyway?

[_underscore_]

But cruise, if we ARE in a matrix, then it is absolutely impossible to actually prove that we are in a matrix, because "proof" would be irrefutable physical evidence, and irrefutable physical evidence does not exist within a virtual reality program.

Imagine that you are dreaming, and that you suddenly realize that you are dreaming. How could you possibly prove to someone else in that dream that you are both inside of a dream, when everything that exists, even your own bodies, are imaginary?


Levitation. Fly around the room or something. If the person in the room with you isn't totally floored, then you know something is amiss.

[cruise4]

"But cruise, if we ARE in a matrix, then it is absolutely impossible to actually prove that we are in a matrix, because "proof" would be irrefutable physical evidence, and irrefutable physical evidence does not exist within a virtual reality program."

So you are saying we are in a virtual reality world with no escape? In which case we had better sort the place out.

If there is an escape... then its proveable. Neo had it proved to him via the red Pill. Who sells these?