Livrepool shooting

[pedsi]

Does anyone think the recent shooting of the 11yr old boy in liverpool may be a black op to forward some agenda here in the UK.As we know it wouldnt be the first time such a terrible attrocity has been commited in the interests of the crown.

[cf24]

Well if they can take out thousands by flying planes into buildings then I would have thought the Liverpool shooting would be a piece of cake....

[pedsi]

Well if they can take out thousands by flying planes into buildings then I would have thought the Liverpool shooting would be a piece of cake....

My thoughts exactly;)

[cheesedanish]

This sort of thing happens all the time here - yeah it made news here
too, for us it oh just another shooting. Anyways, it creates fear, fear
and more fear and more security and more gun control and more
surveillance and more police and more control etc. etc.

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7074

Successful Immigrants Fleeing "Decaying" Britain's "Surveillance State"

Hilary White – LifeSiteNews.com July 30, 2007

Citing rising rates of violent crime among Britain's black community, the decline of academic rigour in public schools, the enormous cost of housing, unprecedented rates of taxation and general social decay, The Daily Mail reports record numbers of former immigrant families are leaving Britain to return to Jamaica.

The Daily Mail said Saturday that between 20,000 and 30,000 Jamaicans, some of whom have lived for decades in the UK, and young Britons of Jamaican ancestry, will return home in the next five years. Britain's sinking standard of living, rising violent gun crime among black British youths and the new "surveillance state" in which Britons are spied upon by government cameras on almost every major city street, are driving what some are calling an exodus of well-to-do Britons of Jamaican descent.

Michael Eboda, editor of New Nation, Britain's biggest black newspaper told the Times, "People want a better standard of living and better schools. Then there is the question of gun crime. In the Caribbean, black kids are not shooting one another in the random way it happens in Britain."

"People say there is no freedom in Britain. There are cameras everywhere, there is a traffic warden on every corner and the police are more likely to stop you. Add to that the tax burden. You cannot make real money in this country."

This social decay has been largely ignored and denied through the New Labour's decade-long tenure. In comments this spring, then-Prime Minister Tony Blair reluctantly admitted, "of course marriage is a good thing" but downplayed a need to support the institution through tax reform, and denied that British society is "broken."

Blair's comment came in response to a speech by David Cameron, leader of Britain's once-mighty Conservative party, who identified support for traditional marriage as the key to restoring what he called Britain's "broken society". "I'll tell you what's wrong," Cameron said. "We have too many children behaving like adults and too many adults behaving like children."

Cameron promised to end unfair tax regulations on married couples and said that he wanted to see "more couples stay together, and we know the best way to ensure this is to support marriage".

"If we are to rebuild our broken society," Cameron said, "we have to get the foundation right. And the foundation of society is - or should be - the care of children by the man and the woman who brought them into the world."

Some have said, however, that David Cameron's flirtation with his party's traditional socially conservative constituency was short-lived. Since his comments in March, the Cameron strategy of moving the party to the left to follow Labour voters has backfired. In two key by-elections on July 19, Britain's official opposition party took a heavy hit at the ballot box. In Sedgefield in the north and the west London of Ealing Southall, Tories took third place behind Labour and the Liberal Democrats.

Despite the setback Cameron, calling for support from his backbenchers, said he would not be returning the party to its traditional policies. "Now is not time to change our strategy, now is the time to reaffirm our strategy. Remember that elections are always won on the centre ground," he said.

Tories now lag nine points behind Labour, according to the latest YouGov poll in the Daily Telegraph, and the Herald reports that Cameron's popularity has sunk from 43% to 27% since February. The poll specifically cited the Tories' move to the left as the cause. The Telegraph reports that the survey of 1,877 people revealed voters consider the party's faithful to be well to the right of its leaders.

www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jul/07073006.html

nwo policy/tavistock is confuse gender roles, break up the family unit, social engineering, you only have to take a look at the uk today, to see its working a treat.

[qasrose]

Well if they can take out thousands by flying planes into buildings then I would have thought the Liverpool shooting would be a piece of cake....

well said :D did anyone notice that both maddy and this boy that was shot are everton supporters?? not that I'm saying anything, just thought I'd point that out. and I find it too be a bit odd..

[icecoldmeltz]

I think that is exactly the case here. like David Say's , problem' solution' reaction.. i believe blair & his cronies have let the crime situation, get to such a state' That the public are going to demand a solution. gangs of kids terrorising communities, shootings, stabbings, car jacking. you name it' its in are face every single day. I dont know how long the government are going to let this drag-out. I would welcome any reaction. to feel a little safer on are streets. Anyone watch the series ROME... Anything ring a Bell'' We are living a modern day version.

[cruise4]

Never lose sight of the fact that ALL the trouble in the world and UK is stemming from the manipulations of the NWO. And it wouldn't take long to fix it if the system was destroyed.

[pedsi]

Still no one charged:confused:

[banjaxo]

the real issue is why has society been unable to eradicate violence and why is gun crime rife ?

the obvious answer is that guns are becoming more and more available ...

[2013]

[QUOTE=synergy777;110318]http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7074

Britain's "broken society". "I'll tell you what's wrong," Cameron said. "We have too many children behaving like adults and too many adults behaving like children." [/B]

QUOTE]

that must be the first true and sensible thing i have heard or read a politician say .They have indeed broken down the family , i always found it strange when claiming benefit that you could get more money as a single claimant then living asa couple so the state encouraged the break up albiet on an official level only of the family by rewarding seperation .Just one ofthe many ways they seek to divide and rule :D

[phildee3]

the real issue is why has society been unable to eradicate violence and why is gun crime rife ?

the obvious answer is that guns are becoming more and more available ...

The obvious answer to me is years of mind-programming thru video games creating an army of "sleepers." Throw in mobile phones, broadcasting commands to action (along with years of Orwellian double-speak training to confuse the mind between the "reality" of the streets with the "fantasy" of video games). Not to mention that kids have always liked to emulate adults!

PS Ron Paul is right on gun control. Guns don't kill people...

[2013]

I think they are reffering to problem reaction solution , creat a big enough problem and then you can offer a solution .I lived in everton and moved just as the gun thing was taking hold the whole youth culture hip hop gangster thing as well as video games etc to create that reality for people .The more desensitised people become the easier it is for people to be controlled watching movies or playing video games creates that mind set but the reality of the violence cant hit home until it is done .We have more cctv than any other country and the police now have taser gun training ready to use on the street not to mention eye in the sky robots liverpool was the first to try it out too .:D

[cf24]

Yes, more control. What exactly I don't know, but you can be sure that it will restrict the liberty of everyday people.....

[eternal_spirit]

The stupid little shits can't see beyond their own gang wars.
They don't realise that they are creating a future of More Police powers.

The Citys are the worst for this type of violence, but small Towns, Villages shootings do happen now and then. It would seem it's mostly gang/drug related. The media may well be exaggerating the real figures. It's true it's dangerous after dark in some areas, but think back a 100 years ago it was much worse back then, we didn't have an obsessive media throwing the bad news in our faces every day of the week.

So is it any worse now than the so called good( bad) old days?
I'm in two minds, I think most of the kids are good kids, but there are always some and always was in the past who are just bad.

[cf24]

The stupid little shits can't see beyond their own gang wars.
They don't realise that they are creating a future of More Police powers.

The Citys are the worst for this type of violence, but small Towns, Villages shootings do happen now and then. It would seem it's mostly gang/drug related. The media may well be exaggerating the real figures. It's true it's dangerous after dark in some areas, but think back a 100 years ago it was much worse back then, we didn't have an obsessive media throwing the bad news in our faces every day of the week.

So is it any worse now than the so called good( bad) old days?
I'm in two minds, I think most of the kids are good kids, but there are always some and always was in the past who are just bad.

I agree, I was a little shit when I was younger, but most of them will see the error of their ways in time. The difference is guns weren't on the streets when I was growing up like they are now. If they were, it maybe that the groups that I was involved with may have carried them, so I don't see much difference in the kids, just the external influences of the time. Its actually seen as cool to have a gun by some groups, how times have changed.....

[eternal_spirit]

Its actually seen as cool to have a gun by some groups, how times have changed.....
..........

It used to be who had the biggest knife, most would run when a knife was pulled on them unless they pulled out :eek:a bigger knife! Fortunately air rifles ( pellet guns ) where all kids could get hold of some years ago.

Kids don't think of the consequences, bang bang you're dead one pull of the trigger just like in the movies, the reality of their actions doesn't register with some of them.

[cf24]

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It used to be who had the biggest knife, most would run when a knife was pulled on them unless they pulled out :eek:a bigger knife! Fortunately air rifles ( pellet guns ) where all kids could get hold of some years ago.

Kids don't think of the consequences, bang bang you're dead one pull of the trigger just like in the movies, the reality of their actions doesn't register with some of them.

Yes pellet guns, ouch!

[pedsi]

one thing to remember here.....we are being told it was a kid who done the shooting ,doesn't mean that it was....
you see the programings working...people here are talking about kids with guns,how different it was back in the day etc.

[jinjo5]

Does anyone think the recent shooting of the 11yr old boy in liverpool may be a black op to forward some agenda here in the UK.As we know it wouldnt be the first time such a terrible attrocity has been commited in the interests of the crown.
again,the likeliest answer is some thick fuck of a teenager who decided to have a "bit of fun"....there is no need for fancy explanations.:mad:

[pedsi]

again,the likeliest answer is some thick fuck of a teenager who decided to have a "bit of fun"....there is no need for fancy explanations.:mad:

Thank you for your words of wisdom...........why didnt I think of that:rolleyes:

[jinjo5]

Thank you for your words of wisdom...........why didnt I think of that:rolleyes:
.....thank you,youre welcome.:D
It sounds a bit harsh,its how i felt at the time.

[phildee3]

again,the likeliest answer is some thick fuck of a teenager who decided to have a "bit of fun"....there is no need for fancy explanations.:mad:

...except that the cops must be that much thicker fuckers not to have caught the thick fuck.