I figured it out!

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Honestly, Icke was right. Get passed the web, and everything looks clear.

You see, it's all so very simple.

They need to rule, because they too, are looking for the meaning of life.

They have learned, that there is one great consciencness. That is all one. But they don't care if it's about love or hate or anything.

In my personal opinion, I think it's deeper than we think. When we look at the life of a bug, they seem to die quick. But for a bug, it's a long life. They feel it's about as long as ours.

Now, bare with me, this is just a thought...

What if, the great consciencness is not just real, but we are only surviving on an atomic scale?

What if, we are all just living inside the mind and body, of a catatonic human being? Someone that is completely lost...
But because we are so small(atmoic) we see things as if this person is the universe. And, to make it even worse; what if it was exactly the same for that person aswell? What if they too were just someone in an infinite consciencess...

So, what I think they could be doing, is trying to unify us in order to make a this person get out of their trance, and we become conscience again?

I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking waaaaaaay to deep.

[_underscore_]

_underscore_ has pondered the tiny universe inside a relatively massive universe inside of a relatively larger universe ad infinitum previously. It's a neat thought.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

So, if that was true.... Where does it end? x_O

[Anders Lindman]

What if, we are all just living inside the mind and body, of a catatonic human being? Someone that is completely lost...


If we look at nations it is clear that they behave like children fighting over candy. This is imo a sign of immaturity, not of a dysfunction when looking at it from a larger perspective. Humanity has so to speak not matured yet.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

If we look at nations it is clear that they behave like children fighting over candy. This is imo a sign of immaturity, not of a dysfunction when looking at it from a larger perspective. Humanity has so to speak not matured yet.

That's only humanity though.. What about others?

[_underscore_]

So, if that was true.... Where does it end? x_O


It probably doesn't. It's cyclical, just like everything else. The largest 'person' probably exists inside the smallest one.

[lightbeing]

Honestly, Icke was right. Get passed the web, and everything looks clear.

You see, it's all so very simple.

They need to rule, because they too, are looking for the meaning of life.

They have learned, that there is one great consciencness. That is all one. But they don't care if it's about love or hate or anything.

In my personal opinion, I think it's deeper than we think. When we look at the life of a bug, they seem to die quick. But for a bug, it's a long life. They feel it's about as long as ours.

Now, bare with me, this is just a thought...

What if, the great consciencness is not just real, but we are only surviving on an atomic scale?

What if, we are all just living inside the mind and body, of a catatonic human being? Someone that is completely lost...
But because we are so small(atmoic) we see things as if this person is the universe. And, to make it even worse; what if it was exactly the same for that person aswell? What if they too were just someone in an infinite consciencess...

So, what I think they could be doing, is trying to unify us in order to make a this person get out of their trance, and we become conscience again?

I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking waaaaaaay to deep.

I have learnt nothing is impossible............

But we are still stuck in a matrix / prison in our perceived reality...........

[i_am]

So, if that was true.... Where does it end? x_O

It doesn't. It is infinite;)

[barbitone]

Nice one mate.:D

Your exactly right. And that being IS waking up...... and because it is, so are we.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8149/50509751xe5.jpg

Our reality is like 2 mirrors staring in towards each other.
One image reflected into infinity in two opposite directions.

1 truth
2 polarities

Truth is infinite, therefore so are it's reflections.....

[Ian2day]

Nice one mate.:D

Your exactly right. And that being IS waking up...... and because it is, so are we.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8149/50509751xe5.jpg

Our reality is like 2 mirrors staring in towards each other.
One image reflected into infinity in two opposite directions.

1 truth
2 polarities

Truth is infinite, therefore so are it's reflections.....

It is the on and off, the binary 1 and 0 reflected inside an endless loop of fiber optic cable. A light switched on and off, ad infinitum. On off, on off, on off. With each cycle being reflected back off of each other to form an endless and infinite sequence of possibilities. That will never end, or ever start. It just is what it is. With us being the subatomic particles contained in the bald head of Homer Simpson :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cNV9FEKi9FQ

[mada88]

Thats a holographic universe for ya! :D Again with meaning and purpose, I don't believe that there is a higher purpose. At the same time though every possible purpose is the meaning of life.
Universes in universes is holographic. I liked the mirror pic way cool, I wonder if you could make a better one. Suppose you would have to get a good angle.

Combing the mirror!

[kblood]

Nice to see more people understanding the awareness and comming to like it :) I guess it is a bit like trying to figure out how we see the world. In the beginning we learn to see the world as good. We are told stories were good people always win through and nothing bad ever really happens. Later in life we find that good and evil might actually exist. That we have to be carefull and responsible for what we do and how we live life.

It is not the same for every person, since we are all different and lives very different lives. But I do believe that we all at some point will realise that there is not really any duality to this world, other than the duality we put on it. The duality of good and evil is simply a part of the equation that makes up the oneness. Part of the karma that makes life and time turn around and keep going on.

Its a wonderfull life :) Getting to the part of understanding oneness can be very difficult and for some it takes a long time, for others they might have known all along, but simply did not need to understand it. A few refuses to understand it and try to control it. Use the knowledge of the oneness for personal gain, and some are quite succesfull doing this. The more success... the longer the fall though ;)

[king]

Honestly, Icke was right. Get passed the web, and everything looks clear.

You see, it's all so very simple.

They need to rule, because they too, are looking for the meaning of life.

They have learned, that there is one great consciencness. That is all one. But they don't care if it's about love or hate or anything.

In my personal opinion, I think it's deeper than we think. When we look at the life of a bug, they seem to die quick. But for a bug, it's a long life. They feel it's about as long as ours.

Now, bare with me, this is just a thought...

What if, the great consciencness is not just real, but we are only surviving on an atomic scale?

What if, we are all just living inside the mind and body, of a catatonic human being? Someone that is completely lost...
But because we are so small(atmoic) we see things as if this person is the universe. And, to make it even worse; what if it was exactly the same for that person aswell? What if they too were just someone in an infinite consciencess...

So, what I think they could be doing, is trying to unify us in order to make a this person get out of their trance, and we become conscience again?

I don't know. Maybe I'm thinking waaaaaaay to deep.

i do not know what you are smoking...but one thing for sure -- i do not want that stuff that you are smoking

it seems that you are loosing it.

look, it is pretty simple;

on one hand we have bunch of psychopathic people in power who are promoting their new, yet insane system, they are perverting what is normal, good, kind... basically those mofos are destroying the humanity.

on other hand you have those who are following some gurus, New Age or otherwise.
they begin to analyze shit in their own butthole to a great detail

meanwhile the psychopaths are advancing their agenda because of too many people are analyzing each other's or own buttholes

how about if you forget what Icke has said and listen to your inner self?
just listen what your inner self is trying to tell you and you will know the answer.

nowadays Icke is in business to sell books and DVDS, that much is obvious.
Icke is not going to give you ANY solutions, because no one but you can know what the solution is for your case.



so, forget what your favorite guru is saying and thinking.
that does not matter, it only matters what you think, what is your solution to the problem

[Anders Lindman]

That's only humanity though.. What about others?

It seems that evolution goes from simple particles, then to atoms, molecules, single-celled organisms, multicellular organisms... Then next step would be: planetary organism. Other planets within our galaxy are probably in a similar state of development as ours. What about 2012? That could indicate an evolutionary leap, just as the other leaps such as atoms to molecules.

[yinon]

If we look at nations it is clear that they behave like children fighting over candy. This is imo a sign of immaturity, not of a dysfunction when looking at it from a larger perspective. Humanity has so to speak not matured yet.

Exactly!
The matrix contains numerous individuals in correlation. Some are more immature than others! Why? it's first a matter of awareness and counsciousness.

If as individual you did not learn to raise your role in this matrix, you risk to come back and play the same game forever. Observe many organisms , some are more complex than others..more evolved... As individual we choose to evolve - not all have the capacity to do it . Why? I think For humans ,the soul plays an important role in that but we cannot prove it's existence yet

Counsciousness makes you evolve at a faster speed

Thats a holographic universe for ya! Again with meaning and purpose, I don't believe that there is a higher purpose.


Yes there is a higher purpose for life. Observe an atom or a cell, they all have purpose. We have a personal mission- all of us! Maybe you are not conscious of it yet.


Looking at Cell Functions

Cells come in many sizes All cells have a purpose. If they don't do anything productive, they are not needed anymore. In the big picture, a cell's purpose is much more important than acting as small organizational pieces. They had their purpose long before they started working together in groups and building more advanced organisms. When alone, a cell's main purpose is to survive.

[yinon]

When alone a cells purpose is to survive!!!


Interesting!
Relationship matters!

That's why less evolved beings isolate the more evolved ones! To eliminate them...!

Think about Mandella..Add many names as you wish

The main purpose of some is to maintain low counsciousness on earth!

The purpose of others is to enhance our counsciousness!

[yinon]

meanwhile the psychopaths are advancing their agenda because of too many people are analyzing each other's or own buttholes

A bit Too easy!! Eliminate the more evolved ones and you gonna face the end of this world

How to behave with detractors? Here's the main question!

Realize that you are an ass hole as them!

and Teach them to act more wisely!

[Anders Lindman]

Observe many organisms , some are more complex than others..more evolved... As individual we choose to evolve - not all have the capacity to do it . Why?

It seems that evolution goes from simple particles, then to atoms, molecules, single-celled organisms, multicellular organisms... So evolution makes clear distinct leaps into higher forms of being, but at the same time it is consciousness that is the observer and experiencer, and consciousness is already fully complete I think, just as David Icke says. Form evolves, but formless consciousness is already complete.

The spooky thing is that there are no other individuals. There is only one consciousness, existing _now_. Of course there are other people and so on, but just as my own physical body they are projections.

[king]

A bit Too easy!! Eliminate the more evolved ones and you gonna face the end of this world

How to behave with detractors? Here's the main question!

Realize that you are an ass hole as them!

and Teach them to act more wisely!

please define "more evolved ones "
are those who kill "lesser" beings (just because they can) "more evolved" ???

your logic ain't logical here. i can detect some Cognitive dissonance

and, majority of the people are not " ass hole as them!" (as you said)

personally, i do not like to see other human being suffer. as a matter of fact i do not like to see an animal suffer, and i do not like to see natural habitat being destroyed needlessly, and even poisoning of the air with engine exaust
bothers me. I do not like to see anything that is destructive, it is just wrong
to be destructive.

so, i am not like them big psychopaths in power, and i am not like them
small psychopaths that serve big psychopaths.

[yinon]

just as David Icke says. Form evolves, but formless consciousness is already complete.

But some are more sophisticated receptors than others for higher frequencies

You cannot walk in this world without being pragmatical and only a spiritual freak!

[yinon]

please define "more evolved ones "
are those who kill "lesser" beings (just because they can) "more evolved" ???

your logic ain't logical here. i can detect some Cognitive dissonance

and, majority of the people are not " ass hole as them!" (as you said)

personally, i do not like to see other human being suffer. as a matter of fact i do not like to see an animal suffer, and i do not like to see natural habitat being destroyed needlessly, and even poisoning of the air with engine exaust
bothers me. I do not like to see anything that is destructive, it is just wrong
to be destructive.

so, i am not like them big psychopaths in power, and i am not like them
small psychopaths that serve big psychopaths.

You answered !

why ask me?

[yinon]

so, i am not like them big psychopaths in power, and i am not like them
small psychopaths that serve big psychopaths.

lol

More evolved ones can see them in everyone. You don't have to share the same bed! Only be aware of that part in yourself without using it to resolve your pragmatical challenge!

[Anders Lindman]

But some are more sophisticated receptors than others for higher frequencies

You cannot walk in this world without being pragmatical and only a spiritual freak!

People have different skills and abilities. But I don't think one person is more evolved than the next. The universe moves as a wholeness. Consciousness is already complete and infinite I think. The interesting thing is that more and more people are waking up to the mass media and political frauds that have been going on. Alex Jones said his knowledge about this was growing exponentially. :eek: I believe that is true, but what I have noticed is that when the understanding expands it becomes simpler. As more and more dots are connected the bigger picture begins to emerge and it's very easy to look at a big picture when most of the mess has been wiped off it.

[kblood]

In some ways I agree with Yinon. If I find a person with psychic powers above normal, I do get suspicous as to how this person is then accepting the gifts. Some people see the awakening as something forced upon them, and therefore might use this new freedom to serve their own purposes. If I see this happen, I do try to make this person realise that he or her is not above everyone else. Just because some people can do or see things others cannot, only makes us more aware. Makes us better at helping others as I see it.

If I do find one who has lost his or her way, that keeps being and immoral person, or endangers the lives of others without reason, I do face confront this person. I do not like to hurt others, but at this point, I do not have to worry about my own pain. I most of all have to worry about what happens if I "open my mind", since it is not easy to close it again after. And if something evil is to be done, I will be in torment for quite a while. Guess it might save me some time in hell to always feel sorry about what I have done, but I can only hope I get to fry a bit like everyone else anyway :)

Yup, I do believe in hell. I have seen beings that probably have been through some kind of hell to get like that, but they have never been beyond redemption :) That is why I always like to find one of these lost souls. Its like an adventure figuring out how to bring this soul back to the light. Knowing all the rules of these beings, it is easier to keep them at a distance, but they can still be dangerous for those that let their guard down.

Hope I did not get too much off topic. Yinons replies just made me feel compelled to write something like this again. I hope it makes sense.

[yinon]

People have different skills and abilities. But I don't think one person is more evolved than the next. The universe moves as a wholeness. Consciousness is already complete and infinite I think. The interesting thing is that more and more people are waking up to the mass media and political frauds that have been going on. Alex Jones said his knowledge about this was growing exponentially. :eek: I believe that is true, but what I have noticed is that when the understanding expands it becomes simpler. As more and more dots are connected the bigger picture begins to emerge and it's very easy to look at a big picture when most of the mess has been wiped off it.

I don't like to label people and things in terms of higher and lesser beings. I understand where you are going but when I look this picture I can say without any doubt that some of us are not far away from the animal stage

http://www.islam-watch.org/Assets/SwedenRape.gif

[yinon]

Yup, I do believe in hell. I have seen beings that probably have been through some kind of hell to get like that, but they have never been beyond redemption

Right!

What means immaturity?

People with high psychic powers have developped their habilities in that field. They are not mature for that reason if they still use it for their own purpose.

They are more sophisticated receptors but they are still drive by their egos

Redemption is the step for a quantum leap in counsciousness and humility ,the door to push your ass at another level

But guilts block the process!!!!

If you judge them they resist!

Give them support but stand when they use it for themselves

[space lizard]

Tommy the Zoo keeper taught me I should never stop pondering the true nature of reality, I said - Ahh, now I'm getting it. Tommy said, but are you really getting it. - A mystical flute sounded in the wind. Then I laughed and said, "I've got it now". Tommy nodded in approval and said 'Good'. he then raised his finger and said "but have you really got it now?", "and if you do really had got it now, would it really have been good". I contiunde to ponder the infinite question and then after a while I smiled and said to Tommy "I don't think I can ever get it, because its contradictorary by its very essence". After a while Tommy said "but is it really?" then I said, "just fuck off Tommy".

Did you get that, but did you really get it? That's enough now.

[Anders Lindman]

I don't like to label people and things in terms of higher and lesser beings. I understand where you are going but when I look this picture I can say without any doubt that some of us are not far away from the animal stage

http://www.islam-watch.org/Assets/SwedenRape.gif

It seems that this image has nothing to do with Sweden or Muslims:

Translation from AltaVista Babelfish:

"In Haarlem (minimalistisch village, exactly no Amsterdam) Saturday night on atrocious and extreem cowardly provincial manner a woman has been maltreated heavily and vervolgens almost violates. Round half three s night only cycled the woman on the subdued Oostersingelgracht then them of the bicycle were suddenly kicked by sinister provincials with inteeltgarantie. They was kicked firstly in each other whereupon the two daders its kleren of the lijf tore. Because there a car passed accidentally the agrarian nep-Amsterdammersnep-Amsterdammers nep-Amsterdammers beat on the flight. They used for that a bicycle, the usual transport means in Haarlem. The woman touched seriously wounded to face, abdomen and throat. Of course the police force has track still absolutely no and is there no description available. Liefhebbers communicate themselves by means of 0900-8844."

From: http://smartvannederland.nl/2007/04/16/23-jarig-meisje-ernstig-mishandeld-en-net-niet-verkracht/

[yinon]

Tommy the Zoo keeper taught me I should never stop pondering the true nature of reality, I said - Ahh, now I'm getting it. Tommy said, but are you really getting it. - A mystical flute sounded in the wind. Then I laughed and said, "I've got it now". Tommy nodded in approval and said 'Good'. he then raised his finger and said "but have you really got it now?", "and if you do really had got it now, would it really have been good". I contiunde to ponder the infinite question and then after a while I smiled and said to Tommy "I don't think I can ever get it, because its contradictorary by its very essence". After a while Tommy said "but is it really?" then I said, "just fuck off Tommy".

Did you get that, but did you really get it? That's enough now.


GIVE them support but stand when they use it for themselves!

I know one guy who is truly psychic but cannot face his dark side and abused in many ways of others!

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

I don't let him comes in my life.

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

I know that karma exists

Does he know it?

He says that everything is neutral

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

Many escape their responsaqbilities with that kind of thinking

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

FREE WORLD - and choose your environement - Create your home

[yinon]

It seems that this image has nothing to do with Sweden or Muslims:

Translation from AltaVista Babelfish:

"In Haarlem (minimalistisch village, exactly no Amsterdam) Saturday night on atrocious and extreem cowardly provincial manner a woman has been maltreated heavily and vervolgens almost violates. Round half three s night only cycled the woman on the subdued Oostersingelgracht then them of the bicycle were suddenly kicked by sinister provincials with inteeltgarantie. They was kicked firstly in each other whereupon the two daders its kleren of the lijf tore. Because there a car passed accidentally the agrarian nep-Amsterdammersnep-Amsterdammers nep-Amsterdammers beat on the flight. They used for that a bicycle, the usual transport means in Haarlem. The woman touched seriously wounded to face, abdomen and throat. Of course the police force has track still absolutely no and is there no description available. Liefhebbers communicate themselves by means of 0900-8844."

From: http://smartvannederland.nl/2007/04/16/23-jarig-meisje-ernstig-mishandeld-en-net-niet-verkracht/

Thanx for the correction

Some used the information to create more hate as I can see

But the translation is really bad

[kblood]

GIVE them support but stand when they use it for themselves!

I know one guy who is truly psychic but cannot face his dark side and abused in many ways of others!

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

I don't let him comes in my life.

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

I know that karma exists

Does he know it?

He says that everything is neutral

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

Many escape their responsaqbilities with that kind of thinking

Is that really good? Is that really bad?

FREE WORLD - and choose your environement - Create your home

I believe in being neutral when I do not feel I have love enough in me to do good. Sometimes I simply do not try to help others, because I know the help I give when my mind is far away and unfocused, might very well be no help at all.

I know I have a dark and light side to me. I have felt and experienced both. I have given in to both, and I have found that being neutral is a good way to stay to avoid crossing over to the dark side. Whenever I find it possible, I try to be good and spread love by doing good deeds that I do not really have to do. Thereby others might get a happier and easier day. It is quite funny seeing how many gets surprised and suspicous of you, when you do something for others, and do not expect anything in return ;) If they do manage to give a smile, that is enough to make me feel good about doing it.

Does that sound too much like star wars? :o

Nice story about the zoo keeper, Space Lizard :D I like talking like that with people, and it is quite funny having philosophical debates. They can usually keep you smiling and still find new answers to things you might not even have known you needed answers for :)

[Anders Lindman]

Thanx for the correction

Some used the information to create more hate as I can see

But the translation is really bad

Yeah, the translation was not easy to understand. For example, what does "agrarian nep-Amsterdammersnep-Amsterdammers" mean? However, it doesn't sound like Muslims. There are nasty people all over the world, but I don't think they are less evolved than other people.

[yinon]

Yeah, the translation was not easy to understand. For example, what does "agrarian nep-Amsterdammersnep-Amsterdammers" mean? However, it doesn't sound like Muslims. There are nasty people all over the world, but I don't think they are less evolved than other people.

I see maturity as a sign of wisdom and evolution.

Maybe my words don't express well what I am trying to say.

A monkey is more evolve and complex than a bug

The bug is already part of the monkey..The monkey is not in the bug yet...

maybe not better

[yinon]

I also know that humans are more complex creatures with more habilities and even that many continue to behave as ass holes

The capacity to truly love makes the difference between mature and immature beings

I have given in to both, and I have found that being neutral is a good way to stay to avoid crossing over to the dark side.

I like that part kblood

Immature beings cross that barrier more often

[Anders Lindman]

I see maturity as a sign of wisdom and evolution.

Maybe my words don't express well what I am trying to say.

A monkey is more evolve and complex than a bug

The bug is already part of the monkey..The monkey is not in the bug yet...

maybe not better

But the difference between a nasty person and an ordinary person is not like the difference between a monkey and a bug. A nasty person just has a different social conditioning/programming. Much of this programming takes place before the age of 6.

[yinon]

But the difference between a nasty person and an ordinary person is not like the difference between a monkey and a bug. A nasty person just has a different social conditioning/programming. Much of this programming takes place before the age of 6.


Bravo!

[king]

lol

More evolved ones can see them in everyone.


by your logic that is why they enjoy making them suffer or killing them?!

is that why "more evolved" Eugenics peddlers like Rockefeller are trying to eliminate "lesser ones"?

say yinon, do you consider your self "more evolved"?

[yinon]

by your logic that is why they enjoy making them suffer or killing them?!

is that why "more evolved" Eugenics peddlers like Rockefeller are trying to eliminate "lesser ones"?

say yinon, do you consider your self "more evolved"?

I have been loved

I can see they have not to behave as they do

I know that you can move mountains and ass holes - not with guns and bombs

Love is a sacred gift

You cannot buy it

Relationship is what matters if you want to transform this world for a better place to live

They run after money and power - control - They are sick - right
Why? Because their fathers was another ass hole who could not love them

and the wheel goes on and on!

Give a better exemple King !

Show the masses how their leaders reflect who they are

Materialistic crack pot!

Am I more evolved because I have been love?

I believe in karma and the law of return

[yinon]

People don't know how to love

Sometimes you must stand and reject people in the name of love for the well being of all.

Less power they have, more they gonna have to face themselves and stop to look outside for reconnaissance.

Thsat's why they act as they do: They want to be THE number One to be love

It's a call for love in my perception! They are kids in growing!

They are sick! yes

[space lizard]

I was just having a bit of fun, obviously your not familiar with the mighty boosh. - no harm intended!

here's a clip of zoo keeper Tommy, a man who spend too much time pondering the nature of reaility. Have fun.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[yinon]

I won't drive a Ferrari this life time

Not my trip

But the ones who fighted the TWIN SOULS bond. be sure they gonna have to pay the price for ever!

Here's the great shift!!!

Mother Earth won't receive them anymore!!!!

[mada88]

Purpose controls.

[yinon]

The eternal materialistic trip comes at end!

Control or quantum leap in consciousness????