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space lizard
28-08-2007, 02:28 AM
Owen Wilson, attepted....

.... to watch one of his own films a slashed his wrists.

fuckin 'ell, what a bloody mess this guy is. shite movies + no talent. My guess is he watched one of his own films, realised he's no talent and not funny then rang his handler who was busy and Owen came to the conclusion that his free ride on the celebrity train was about to come to an abrupt halt so decided to get off on a plea for help bargain. Oh well there's no such thing as bad publicity!

If you a friend of Owen Wilson, be sure to let him know for next time -
The reaper is waiting down the highway not across the street.

soglad
28-08-2007, 02:31 AM
A very random thing for him to do.

He must have just realized his whole life is a sham :o

limelady
28-08-2007, 02:41 AM
A soul in distress.

Regardless of what you think of Owen Wilson's talent, please try and think kind thoughts rather than negative ones .....even movie stars are battling to make sense of this reality, and we don't know what has been troubling him . :(

LL

soglad
28-08-2007, 02:43 AM
Yes, is everyone noticing a strange thing happening to celebs? I think it's the consciousness change destroying their egos and leaving them with nothing. This can be hard. So yes, do be nice. Think about Owen in hospital now realizing he failed and the press he'll have to deal with. :(

I feel for him...

fantana
28-08-2007, 02:44 AM
Owen Wilson is great.

Seems he cut his wrists and took some pills, I guess it is easier for him to get a large quantity of them. You can only buy one packet at a time here, so you have to go from shop to shop. Unless you can get something good prescribed.

I wonder how much thought he put into it, the cut wrist, was he in a hot bath? Did he use alcohol with it? Does he live near a high bridge?


How is his life is a sham more than anyone elses?

soglad
28-08-2007, 02:46 AM
How is his life is a sham more than anyone elses?

Well, his job buy description is to pretend to be different people all the time. And adhere to the "celebrity" scene, which is all founded and lies and falsities. This can be very hard for a person to deal with...

fantana
28-08-2007, 02:50 AM
Well, his job buy description is to pretend to be different people all the time. And adhere to the "celebrity" scene, which is all founded and lies and falsities. This can be very hard for a person to deal with...


People lie all the time, to themselves, to each other. Hiding their true intentions. Role playing. Getting paid to do it and enjoy doing it, cool.

I don't know what the celebrity scene looks like, I don't care, but if it is anything like where people go out and get as drunk as they can to escape the reality they live in but will go back to without change then it doesn't seem much too different to anything else. Maybe they just have more expensive beer.

sean
28-08-2007, 02:58 AM
Owen is a funny guy on the big screen.

We hold celebrities and actors in such a high regard, and then salivate at their demise which i find rather sad. Hope everything turns out ok.


Maybe they just have more expensive beer.
And moisturiser.

aelusis
28-08-2007, 03:23 AM
Celebrities are created and destroyed by the Hollywood machine everyday, and the reality of celebrity is, it lies in the hands of unknown producers and film financiers. Who gets a role in a movie, especially if its given that bullshit
'oscar contender' label cause the scripts half decent, is determined and handed out like a job promotion. A perfect example of this is Clint Eastwood, a celebrity deep in the illuminaties possesion. You think it's a fluke nearly every movie he's made since he 'decided' to start directing has been 'critically acclaimed' and 'oscar-nominated'? He's given these scripts by the powers that be cause he's their lap dog.

I almost enjoy following certain celebrities careers, trying to figure out which ones actually made it on their own steam and talent and which ones were simply created by the machine. Someone like Hillary Duff is a good example of this, who's entire career's been created and marketed by Disney since day one.

Then within this realm of manufactured celebrity, I think it goes deeper then dirty harry selling his soul to satan. I think a lot of these celebrities have been put through mind-control programs in their youth, when it was predetermined who they would become later in life. I cite Brittany Spears as an example, from my personal beliefs. Just look at what's happening to her now. I think Tom Cruise could fall in this category, too.

How this relates to Owen Wilson is simply that, knowing Hollywood is an illuminati machine, you can never know what's happening behind the curtain. Following Owen Wilson's career, I don't think it was manufactured. I think he was just fortunate to meet Wes Anderson, a very talented filmmaker, before either of them had 'made it big', and the rest is history. Why he would do this can be left up to speculation until eternity, keeping in mind that all we know about the guy is what the machine wants us to know. My love goes out to Owen Wilson, I hope he can find his place in the sun.

And on a strange Post-Script, I just happened to see a movie called 'the minus man' with owen wilson just last night by coincidence (I didn't hear of this suicide till now). The movie sucked to be honest, and I spent the next hour asking myself 'why the hell did I rent that movie, it didn't even look good on the cover'. I just rented it without thinking. Spooky:)

space lizard
28-08-2007, 04:01 AM
If I see owen wilson with a scar from elbow to palm I'll be geniunely sorry for my lack of concern. A nik on the wrist and necking a packet of polos is a cry for help not a genuine suicide attempt. I'm just ridiculing the guy because I have a misanthropic view of hollywood + it socialites for the reasons outlined above which have to do with handlers and lack of talent.

A good outcome would be if he dropped out of the circit and resurfaced with a soul and something to say.

chris
28-08-2007, 04:18 AM
It will be hard for a funny guy to get work now that everyone knows he's not having fun.

chris
28-08-2007, 04:27 AM
And what's the deal with rehab? It's like a pr stunt to say once they've come out that they are okay again...All rehab did for my friend was rob him of his piss and then sent him home. Maybe the rehab clinics are just trying to collect celebrity piss like an exotic trophy.

woghd
28-08-2007, 04:35 AM
If someone is crying for help, should we not help them?
Archangel

whitelightrabbit
28-08-2007, 05:26 AM
Owen Wilson, attepted....

.... to watch one of his own films a slashed his wrists.

fuckin 'ell, what a bloody mess this guy is. shite movies + no talent. My guess is he watched one of his own films, realised he's no talent and not funny then rang his handler who was busy and Owen came to the conclusion that his free ride on the celebrity train was about to come to an abrupt halt so decided to get off on a plea for help bargain. Oh well there's no such thing as bad publicity!

If you a friend of Owen Wilson, be sure to let him know for next time -
The reaper is waiting down the highway not across the street.

LMAO you sick bastard!
it's true what someone said though... celebrities are acting strangely lately.

space lizard
28-08-2007, 05:50 AM
personally I think its co-ordinated, not owen wilsons suicide attempt (although to be honest I've done more self harm whilst masturbating as a teenager). I'm talking about the whole 'movement'.

teen idols crashing cars whilst high on coke outruning the cops and binge drinking, getting caught shop lifting, getting divorced after 5 minutes, shaving their heads and crying in public, adopting loads of starving babies, switching religions like underware, not wearing underware whilst clambering out of cars legs akimbo, being put on youtube acting like idiots, releasing pop videos that are almost porn, lyrics about absolute shite degrading women, women degrading themselves, abusing the law etc.

I think the handlers of all these puppets have all put heads together and decided the youth of today need more inspiration to revolt against parents because the pills are not working enough alone.

Having said that, owen wilson has been a good boy up until now. so maybe your right, he could be a real person in trouble.

space lizard
28-08-2007, 06:07 AM
One definite indicatior / sign if a celeb is an illuminati puppet is previous acting experience in porn. This is the noose they must put their heads through to make it into the arena.

Every now and then a tame video is released exposing a talentless celeb having talentless sex, this is done to keep them in line. It's as if the handlers are warning them, don't dream your free for an instant or the real tapes will come out.

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On another note, I went to see a film called "Mr. Brooks" 2 weeks ago, I was dragged in. It's a kevin Costner movie. The violence was so real and sickening I left the cinema on 4 or 5 occasions and only returned because my wife likes physco movies and wanted to watch it.

Why put nasty shit like this on film and repeatedly surprise the audience with the most realistic image of a naked woman being shot in the forehead over and over again?

conditioning people to accept images like that is not what I paid for. Had I been alone I would have asked for my money back.

william_mac
28-08-2007, 07:22 AM
I like Owen Wilson. He's funny, and he's fun to watch, and he's in a lot of good movies, just not the really mainstream ones. He's sort of like Christopher Walken as far as their obscure fame is concerned... and I like both of them.

I'm familiar with suicide because I've been around it an awful lot. I'm all for laughing about someone who commits suicide in a strange way, and I've done it before... or even someone who tries to commit suicide. However, I do believe you need to keep a certain level of reverence. Don't go walking on the graves, whether they be old of freshly dug and waiting for a new casket. You know? Depression is a strange and gripping thing, and it is much more sinister than people who are not afflicted by it -- or not around it -- will ever really know.

I'm just pointing that out. Remember respect and reverence towards a suicide attempt or a succesfull one. It takes a lot of guts to try to commit suicide and/or a lot of mental torture.



-William

william_mac
28-08-2007, 07:29 AM
It will be hard for a funny guy to get work now that everyone knows he's not having fun.

Comedians are the most sad and depressed people on the earth... I swear to god. I mean... I've never met a more sad person that a comedian... any of them. Just take Mitch Hedberg for example.

In my mind, as a filmmaker/writer comedies are the loftiest form of truth, and satire is the most sorrowful form of knowledge; it is an ironic throwing up of hands, and devestatingly depressing laughter, but some people can only laugh for so long.

Comedians really are the saddest people, and they use their comedy to both explain their true feelings, yet shroud them at the same time. Comedians will tell a horribly personal and depressive story about their lives, and make everyone laugh, but the fact is that he/she will be hiding behind that laughter, but all the while he/she will be taking it seriously.

This doesn't have anything to do with Hollywood or anything, primarily comedians fit the personality type of an abused, neglected, and overly thoughtful child... just like cops fit the personality of overly abusive, bullying, athoritative, neglected, un-knowledgeable brutes that wish to further their bullying with a uniform. Everyone fits a profile, and a lot of the time the predictions of their personality and why a they came to a certain point holds true. Not all of the time, but a lot of the time.



-William

i_am
28-08-2007, 08:42 AM
Nobody can know the pain another is suffering. IME suicide attempts are a call for help. And as william has stated, those who make others laugh are quite often the saddest and loneliest people.

1 2 free
28-08-2007, 09:28 AM
Owen Wilson is the co writer and executive producer on 'Rushmore' which is one of my favourite films ever. I love his stuff with Wes Anderson. 'Bottle Rocket' (he co wrote and starred in) is another gem. I think the only big Hollywood movie I've seen him in is Zoolander which was okay. I don't go much for Hollywood movies. He's a really talented guy though.

Regardless of who he is it's sad to see anyone so unhappy that they would attempt to end their life. Be it a real or be it 'a cry for help' I hope he's okay. The same goes for all the unhappy people out there.

william_mac
28-08-2007, 09:33 AM
Owen Wilson is the co writer and executive producer on 'Rushmore' which is one of my favourite films ever. I love his stuff with Wes Anderson. 'Bottle Rocket' (he co wrote and starred in) is another gem. I think the only big Hollywood movie I've seen him in is Zoolander which was okay. I don't go much for Hollywood movies. He's a really talented guy though.

Regardless of who he is it's sad to see anyone so unhappy that they would attempt to end their life. Be it a real or be it 'a cry for help' I hope he's okay. The same goes for all the unhappy people out there.

Not to mention The Royal Tenenbaums and The Life Aquatic. It's all genious, those movies were fucking AMAZING, and Owen did a grand and fabulous job in all of them. Him and Wes Anderson make a great duo as far as film relations are concerned. And, I have to give props to Bill Murray too; go Bill Murray.... go.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

1 2 free
28-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Not to mention The Royal Tenenbaums and The Life Aquatic. It's all genious, those movies were fucking AMAZING, and Owen did a grand and fabulous job in all of them. Him and Wes Anderson make a great duo as far as film relations are concerned. And, I have to give props to Bill Murray too; go Bill Murray.... go.


I resisted running through all the Wes Anderson films but absolutely. :D All unique and brilliant. Their new one 'The Darjeeling Limited' looks fantastic too.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/thedarjeelinglimited/

william_mac
28-08-2007, 10:11 AM
I resisted running through all the Wes Anderson films but absolutely. :D All unique and brilliant. Their new one 'The Darjeeling Limited' looks fantastic too.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox_searchlight/thedarjeelinglimited/

I hadn't heard about that! I just watched the trailer and it looks fucking amazing. That is the thing about Wes, he makes the mundane, normal, and detrimental side of human action and thought become a paramount tragicomedy that urges us to not take ourselves so seriously... because even in our drama and feelings will we find humor and absurdity. Not only that, but in the comedic expressions of ol' Wes, we find not only the aforementioned, but we also find peace, un-touched emotion, and community through absurd trials that end up becoming nothing more than silly obstacle courses, and we realize that we -- each other -- are what really matters. And that is the common theme with Wes Anderson. And it's just so commendable and respectable and aspirational to watch his films.

Yeesh, I can only hope to get to that level of notoriety while, at the same time, not sacrificing my soul to the Hollywood markatebility machine that says I have to churn out the same old popular shit. Wes Anderson did his own thing, and he promotes truth, love, self-realization, and humility in his viewers, and he actually fucking SUCCEEDED at doing so. That is just... bah, outstanding.

I mean, I still get tears in my eyes when Richie Tenenbaum escapes from the hospital and walks into Margo Tenenbaum's little tent as Velvet Underground plays, and at the end when they both sit on the roof smoking a cigarette with Mordecai the falcon. And I get tears when Bill Murray sits under the ocean in his yellow submarine (totally Beatles) as the "Jaguar Shark" shows itself, and he has tears in his eyes. And other similar moments in all of his other films... and it is just enlightening.

I can't wait to see the film.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

space lizard
28-08-2007, 02:08 PM
I started this thread, and its gone all serious. So on a serious note....

I've had more depression and suicidal thoughts from a young age in my life then most people. And thats why I'm taking the piss out of owen wilson. Forgive me for being a bit of a misanthrope, but a half packet of aspin and tracing a line over your wrist with a red biro doesn't cut it with me. If your thinking of killing yourself, get help. If your a celebrity and your star is on the wane, do something else with your life. As I said, if Owen Wilson emerges from hospital with a 7 inch long gash from elbow to palm, I'll swiftly appologise and eat my words. If however, (and I suspect its going to be the case) he emerges with a couple of stitches and a rejuvinated career, I'll not be that interested in him.. Where self destructive behaviour is concerned, I get disappointed when people light themselves on fire and only come out with 2nd degree burns.


Some people in the public eye make pityfully weak attempts at self harm just to cling on to public sympathy, razor blade in one hand, phone in the other speaking to a PA. unbelievable.

Look at John Brogden in Australia, boo hoo, I didn't win a political seat. slashes wrists with an electric razor. piss off.

synergy777
28-08-2007, 02:22 PM
he saw her without make up, then broke up, lol

1 2 free
28-08-2007, 04:07 PM
I hadn't heard about that! I just watched the trailer and it looks fucking amazing. That is the thing about Wes, he makes the mundane, normal, and detrimental side of human action and thought become a paramount tragicomedy that urges us to not take ourselves so seriously... because even in our drama and feelings will we find humor and absurdity. Not only that, but in the comedic expressions of ol' Wes, we find not only the aforementioned, but we also find peace, un-touched emotion, and community through absurd trials that end up becoming nothing more than silly obstacle courses, and we realize that we -- each other -- are what really matters. And that is the common theme with Wes Anderson. And it's just so commendable and respectable and aspirational to watch his films.

Yeesh, I can only hope to get to that level of notoriety while, at the same time, not sacrificing my soul to the Hollywood markatebility machine that says I have to churn out the same old popular shit. Wes Anderson did his own thing, and he promotes truth, love, self-realization, and humility in his viewers, and he actually fucking SUCCEEDED at doing so. That is just... bah, outstanding.

I mean, I still get tears in my eyes when Richie Tenenbaum escapes from the hospital and walks into Margo Tenenbaum's little tent as Velvet Underground plays, and at the end when they both sit on the roof smoking a cigarette with Mordecai the falcon. And I get tears when Bill Murray sits under the ocean in his yellow submarine (totally Beatles) as the "Jaguar Shark" shows itself, and he has tears in his eyes. And other similar moments in all of his other films... and it is just enlightening.

I can't wait to see the film.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

Well I wish I could put my thoughts down as well as you, William. You summed it all up rather perfectly and I'm looking forward to the new film a lot too. It looks fantastic.

synergy777
28-08-2007, 04:21 PM
one we shouldn't fear death at all, its merely tansition, like you go to sleep/dream/wake up, such is the transition of life from this plane of existence to another. 2, life is a blessing, and their are forces at work that take care of you, all you need it trust/faith/courage in love/compassion/creator, then everything opens up, like the red sea.

goodgirl
28-08-2007, 07:02 PM
I hope he overcomes his personal demons and recovers from whatever situation/s drove him to attempt suicide.

william_mac
28-08-2007, 10:06 PM
I started this thread, and its gone all serious. So on a serious note....

I've had more depression and suicidal thoughts from a young age in my life then most people. And thats why I'm taking the piss out of owen wilson. Forgive me for being a bit of a misanthrope, but a half packet of aspin and tracing a line over your wrist with a red biro doesn't cut it with me. If your thinking of killing yourself, get help. If your a celebrity and your star is on the wane, do something else with your life. As I said, if Owen Wilson emerges from hospital with a 7 inch long gash from elbow to palm, I'll swiftly appologise and eat my words. If however, (and I suspect its going to be the case) he emerges with a couple of stitches and a rejuvinated career, I'll not be that interested in him.. Where self destructive behaviour is concerned, I get disappointed when people light themselves on fire and only come out with 2nd degree burns.


Some people in the public eye make pityfully weak attempts at self harm just to cling on to public sympathy, razor blade in one hand, phone in the other speaking to a PA. unbelievable.

Look at John Brogden in Australia, boo hoo, I didn't win a political seat. slashes wrists with an electric razor. piss off.


Look, Owen Wilson tried to kill himself, and he can do what he wants. It wasn't because he was trying to get sympothy and shit, and no one probably knew that he was going to kill himself. I mean, my neighbors father commited suicide last week, he and his mother went away for 2 days, they come back and he had shot himself. They didn't even know he owned a gun, and he was a doctor, and there is no explination.

Another friend of mine shot himself in a car while his friends were with him. Once again, no warning, no sense. He was at a stop light, he takes a gun out of his pocket and he just fucking blows his brains out without saying a word of warning. Just... no reason, and everybody was going out to eat when he did it in the car.

So, Owen probably just... decided to buy the ticket and head off. I don't think it's bad for people to commit suicide, and I really don't care if they do or not. But, I do reverence their decision for whatever reason they may have offed themselves. So, I think that we shouldn't really touch on the subject at all, and especially mention that he's a "bad actor" and jest that he watched one of his own movies and decided to kill himself. That's just a cheap blow, even if you're light hearted. Owen is a good actor, and he is in a lot of absolutely amazing movies, but people for some reason know him as the stupid guy in a lot of stupid comedies... but he has amazing underground work, as to most actors, that non-movie buffs never catch wind of. I mean, Elijah Woods for example gets flack all of the time, or Orlando Bloom, but thye have amazing underground films.

So, I just think we need to leave it alone. I mean, really, his career is in no way going to be ruined. Now, Lindsey Lohan and Brittany Spears and Paris Hilton and all of these other bubble gum dumbasses are out there for the publicity and public wayning of emotions, what the fuck crazy shit has Owen done? Absolutely nothing except try to kill himself.

Yet, we're over here saying "HEY! You better have bitter slits on your wrist than that, or I'm not going to belive it!"



-William

william_mac
28-08-2007, 10:09 PM
Well I wish I could put my thoughts down as well as you, William. You summed it all up rather perfectly and I'm looking forward to the new film a lot too. It looks fantastic.

I write a lot of music/lifestyle pieces for magazines and album, book and movie reviews come into the picture. It's a habit to break randomly into pros like that, hah hah. It's even worse when you accidentally do it in a conversation, before you know it you've gone off on like a 5 minute tanget like a poetry recital or touching monologue, and everyone is staring at you like "what the fuck?" Silly.



-William
www.William-Mac.com

space lizard
28-08-2007, 10:39 PM
Maybe its the oversell I got tired of. for about 5 years every comedy made had Vince Vaugh, Ben Stiller, Luke and Owen Wilson, Will Ferrell. But to be honest, Owen Wilson is the least of the offenders in that list.

kblood
28-08-2007, 11:05 PM
I watched one of his newest movies: You, Me and Dupree. His role is a lonely person whos world seems to be falling apart the whole movie. He is loosing his best friend who is getting married, he cannot find a woman to love, who loves him back, and he believes in a mothership that comes to bring people up when it is time.

Might be a fluke, but seems to me this role hit the nail on Owen Wilson and his personality. I believe he might be awakening like so many of us is, and the attempted suicide confirms this in my book. One of the steps in becomming aware is the feeling of hopelessness. Seems it is taking his toll on him. Also I read that the reason for his suicide attempt was because of his girlfriend or ex-girlfriend. Do not know wether they are still together or not.

I am just happy that he is still alive and looking forward to his next movies.
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0005562/ - Owen Wilsons IMDB page.

1 new movie being released and 3 more already planned :D

Seems some might have become bored with Owen's movies, but I think he has only begun showing his true potential. Also I really love his humor :)