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hann_93
04-10-2009, 11:36 PM
My question is: What is déjà vu?
What do you guys think?

Here's something from Wikipedia:

-Since the last years of the 20th century, déjà vu has been subject to serious psychological and neurophysiological research. Scientifically speaking, the most likely explanation of déjà vu is not that it is an act of "precognition" or "prophecy", but rather that it is an anomaly of memory giving the impression that an experience is "being recalled".
This explanation is substantiated by the fact that the sense of "recollection" at the time is strong in most cases, but that the circumstances of the "previous" experience (when, where, and how the earlier experience occurred) are quite uncertain. Likewise, as time passes, subjects[where?] can exhibit a strong recollection of having the "unsettling" experience of déjà vu itself, but little or no recollection of the specifics of the event(s) or circumstance(s) they were "remembering" when they had the déjà vu experience. In particular, this may result from an overlap between the neurological systems responsible for short-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the present) and those responsible for long-term memory (events which are perceived as being in the past). The events would be stored into memory before the conscious part of the brain even receives the information and processes it.-

I thought it could be something to do with dreams - parts of dreams, that are precognitive, we don't remember. Don't remember until it actually happens, that is - this could be the strong sense of recollection.

If time doesn't play out in a straight line, déjà vu could be time overlapping itself - maybe that's what precognition is in the first place, and you're more perceptive to it in an unconscious state, i.e. asleep, dreaming.

...just a thought really...

killuminatiday
07-10-2009, 09:55 AM
my personal opinion is that deja vu is like a hidden memory of a dream u had that just happens to come true. I have had so many dreams in my life that I cant remember until something jogs my memory and usually the deja vu appears immediatly. just my opinion

azureangel
07-10-2009, 11:27 AM
Hi, I read years ago and believe that deja vu is simply remembering what we already previewed while in the dream state. We spend time each night previewing the next day, then choose our behavior as it unfolds. I also agree that there might be a time-loop component. Recently I've had a few incidents of deja vu which were repeats. I suspected that the incident (never something of importance, just a situation, a few words said...) was somehow repeating itself. But now knowing better the cyclic nature of time, I believe is was a cycle repeat.
Love, angel

creepingdave
07-10-2009, 01:04 PM
I've always been interested by it, though not really had one for a while. I've always thought it was something i've dreamt at some point which i'm remembering.

Anyone have weird ones where you have de ja vu of a de ja vu and the original event? That kind of supports a repeated time-loop argument, an experience thats happened not just once, but twice or more.

martg
07-10-2009, 01:12 PM
I remember reading once that déjà vu was caused by a chemical imbalance between the the short and long term memory centres of the brain, but since I have 'woken up' to the holographic nature of reality that now seems like a scientists bulls**t answer and I think there is more to it.

anahata
07-10-2009, 03:38 PM
I thought it could be something to do with dreams - parts of dreams, that are precognitive, we don't remember. Don't remember until it actually happens, that is - this could be the strong sense of recollection.

If time doesn't play out in a straight line, déjà vu could be time overlapping itself - maybe that's what precognition is in the first place, and you're more perceptive to it in an unconscious state, i.e. asleep, dreaming.



Crease in the bind of parallel planes?

As for dreams, they're not necessarily any more or less real than this continuum, you're only conscious of the effects of the 'now' you're resonating with. This is an experience, a dream is an experience. So maybe deja vu is a movement between parallel 'dreams'? It probably happens more often than we're aware of but because it happens faster than our conscious mind is able to deal with, maybe we just don't notice?

pinkfreud
07-10-2009, 07:07 PM
If time doesn't play out in a straight line, déjà vu could be time overlapping itself - maybe that's what precognition is in the first place, and you're more perceptive to it in an unconscious state, i.e. asleep, dreaming.

But now knowing better the cyclic nature of time, I believe is was a cycle repeat.


i agree.

the more i read up on linear time being nothing but an illusion, the more i am convinced deja vu is actually a little 'glitch' in the matrix- aka a moment when we actually see/experience a non-linear existence even if it seems very, very brief.

time is illusory and fundamentally, it does not exist; time is a construct of our collective minds. reality in itself is multi-dimensional... the dimension in which we are existing currently leads us to believe time is linear and finite, which is not the case; it could possibly be the greatest illusion of our time, who knows?

so when it comes to deja vu... in this original state where our higher selves know there is no time and that all things- past present and future- exist simultaneously, deja vu could perhaps serve as a reminder to our personalities living in a lower perspective of reality and and give us a brief glimpse into the infinite nature of non linear time.

nimlyn
08-10-2009, 12:39 AM
I have kind of experienced déjà vu in a dream…:)

30.04.02: - [2:30 p.m] I fell asleep on the big couch in the theatre room and I dreamed that I awoke after hearing a masculine voice saying, “She’s rude”.

The following day I fell asleep again in the afternoon however this time I was resting on the smaller couch in the same room. When I woke I saw my husband walking out of the room and he was talking to the dogs saying the words “She’s rude”.

The comment was made because the husband was reacting to a hand gesture which our daughter (sitting by the table in the dining room) had just shown him…:D

spiral_out
08-10-2009, 03:15 AM
I can go along with the 'glitch in the matrix' theory, but whenever I have deja vu I'm always reminded of the movie Donnie Darko. If you've seen it you know what I'm talking about. Donnie crosses over his path in time and visualizes this tube coming out of his stomach leading him to his future and he decides to follow. It's almost like a reassurance that you are doing the right thing at the right moment.

hann_93
13-10-2009, 08:15 PM
Thanks a lot guys, this is interesting stuff :) !! I agree that our current 'understanding' of reality is incorrect, it's something that fascinates me.

Crease in the bind of parallel planes?

The universe could be layered and we're on one particular plane - "crease in the bind of parallel planes" - unable to see the others ^_^ ghosts and other unexplained phenomena, and perhaps deja vu, could be a result of 'leaks' from other planes...

"Glitch in the matrix" - referring to this, what do you guys think reality actually is?

madamlasher
16-10-2009, 08:10 AM
I believe it is remembering a dream, something your loved ones on the other side have shown you and it's an affirmation you're on the right track.

Imagine been permanently in a state of déjà vu? I wonder if this could happen.

I like déjà vu, it feels mysterious and familiar :)

jakeuk999
16-10-2009, 09:04 AM
I read somewhere that it is when the brain places a current event in the wrong place or places the new memory in long term memory by accident then you get this kind of paradox thing going on.

dreifus
15-01-2010, 11:27 AM
Déjà vu is the experience of being certain that you have experienced or seen a absolut new situation previously. An attempt is made to correlate the occurrence of dreaming and the déjà vu phenomenon in 58 patients seen in psychotherapy. All 10 who reported as not dreaming also reported as not having experienced the déjà vu; dreaming generally correlated with experiencing the déjà vu.

timelord
15-01-2010, 08:26 PM
I'm sure I've seen this thread before! :)

chovexano
16-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Lol

Actually had a moment of deja-vu closure (or something like that, i dunno the term) this week. Something like a year ago, I had a moment of deja-vu, and this week I had that exact same deja vu, it was like one was a start point and the other an end point, I felt as though something on a higher level had been exchanged between the two moments after the conclusion deja-vu. Was odd, but not the first time this has happened.

mr stoppitall
24-01-2010, 12:13 PM
I read somewhere that it is when the brain places a current event in the wrong place or places the new memory in long term memory by accident then you get this kind of paradox thing going on.
Close to my theory, I always thought it more of a mistake made by the brain when creating memory. That the memory then was relayed to consciousness by mistake creating the illusion.

morethanatheory
28-01-2010, 10:49 PM
To be honest, i've heard all sorts of speculations.

Supposedly, it is when one of your eyes has a delay, due to some textbook science babble, and the other eye processes it first, so when the other eye adjusts within a split second, it seems as you have experienced it before. In reality, you just experienced it mili seconds before.


I think that's bullshit.