what do the Russians want with the North Pole

[freethinker]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6916662.stm

any suggestions what is really going on ?

[december]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6916662.stm

BBC= blatant bullshit channel :)

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7932

:)


any suggestions what is really going on ?

Freethinker, we discussed this topic already...
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6402

I assume it is YOU who want to know the answer and not those people from BBC. Correct? :)

Well, here it is:

"The goal of the expedition is not to reserve Russia's rights but to prove that our shelf reaches the North Pole," Sergei Lavrov said.

http://img.rian.ru/images/5362/33/53623343.jpg

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070802/70174426.html


But the Illuminati are upset about it....


U.S. Senator Lugar says Russia wants Arctic energy reserves

http://img.rian.ru/images/6558/60/65586011.jpg



WASHINGTON, May 16 (RIA Novosti) - U.S. Senator Richard G. Lugar said Russia is aspiring to take control over potential energy reserves in the Arctic Ocean at the expense of U.S. interests.

The senator, known for his anti-Russian statements, urged the U.S. authorities to join the struggle for the polar oil and gas resources by ratifying the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.

The issue has acquired importance in view of dwindling global energy resources. Experts forecast that oil reserves on land would soon be exhausted and the only available fields will be in Persian Gulf and on deep sea shelves.

Lugar said Russia had claimed the right to develop the reserves, which could become more accessible due to ice melting in climate change. The Russian government is expected to meet this week to discuss hydrocarbon production on the sea.

The U.S. parliamentarian's warnings followed a statement by President George W. Bush Tuesday, which called on the Senate to ratify the convention.

Lugar said the convention had been adopted in Cold War times to protect national interests against the Soviet Union and aggressively developing countries. If ratified, the document will grant Washington control over the vast energy and fish wealth lying 200 miles off the American coast, he said.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070516/65556146.html

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6402

[freethinker]

HI December - thanks for that

it strikes that there must be something very worthwhile down there !

[december]

HI December - thanks for that

it strikes that there must be something very worthwhile down there !

Well, of course there IS something very worthwhile down there... :)

Putin's Arctic invasion: Russia lays claim to the North Pole - and all its gas, oil, and diamonds


Russian President Vladimir Putin is making an astonishing bid to grab a vast chunk of the Arctic - so he can tap its vast potential oil, gas and mineral wealth.

His scientists claim an underwater ridge near the North Pole is really part of Russia's continental shelf.

One newspaper printed a map of the "new addition", a triangle five times the size of Britain with twice as much oil as Saudi Arabia.

The dramatic move provoked an international outcry. The U.S. and Canada expressed shock and environment campaigners said it would be a disaster.

Observers say the move is typical of Putin's muscle-flexing as he tries to increase Russian power.

Under current international law, the countries ringing the Arctic - -Russia, Canada, the U.S., Norway, and Denmark (which owns Greenland) - are limited to a 200-mile economic zone around their coasts.


http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_03/northpolegraph_468x219.jpg

A UN convention says none can claim jurisdiction over the Arctic seabed because the geological structure does not match the surrounding continental shelves.

But Russian scientists have returned from a six-week mission on a nuclear ice-breaker to claim that the 1,220-mile long underwater Lomonosov Ridge is geologically linked to the Siberian continental platform - and similar in structure.

The region is currently administered by the International Seabed Authority but this is now being challenged by Moscow.

Experts estimate the ridge has ten billion tons of gas and oil deposits and significant sources of diamonds, gold, tin, manganese, nickel, lead and platinum.

A Russian attempt to claim Arctic territory was rejected five years ago, but this time Moscow plans to make a far more serious submission to the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf. A British diplomatic source warned

that Russia was planning to secure its grip on oil and gas supplies "for decades to come".

READ MORE -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=464921&in_page_id=1811

[synergy777]

russian want it for the same reason you took lands, bomb the middle east,. resources. asian are undergoing a holocaust, but its fine isn't it, just one last act of folly from cowboy bush, and the collapse starts.

depleted uranuims, mutating our dna, the laws of karma are going to by quite a shock. if people, being good christian, read their bible, they would realise the crerator would curse the tribe of dan, with the worst fate, barren/extinction, look at your bithrates, son of perdition. jesus ain't presents and turkey.

[tinmenace]

They want to harvest the Autumn Fruit from the lands within the Hollow Earth :)
Makes great wine, I hear.


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/hollowearth.jpg


Ok, I'm being flippant, but yeah, it's a really good question. Is the NORTH POLE, that is frozen over for 9 months of the year, REALLY REALLY the best place to find gas/diamonds/oil/whatever?

It's a logistical nightmare, and I don't buy it for ONE FREAKING SECOND.

[synergy777]

theres gas reserves, in the sea bed. also with climate change, theres enough freshwater/ice breaking up, to make it easier to exploit. its just a bit rich when the west engages in three fakes wars to rape continents for resources then gets all shocked when russia beats it. russia should be commended for its visionary act, its economic spirit, its enterprising spirit, irony hey.


commodities is the future, oil, wheat, water, grains, metals etc. things are the next new thing, not cheap credit fuellled property speculation or basing a economy on consumer spending and ignoring production/manufacturing. you've been sold down the river, and still support the doctrines of those who sold you, its all rather sweet, love is truly blind, lol

[tinmenace]

theres gas reserves, in the sea bed. also with climate change, theres enough freshwater/ice breaking up, to make it easier to exploit. its just a bit rich when the west engages in three fakes wars to rape continents for resources then gets all shocked when russia beats it. russia should be commended for its visionary act, its economic spirit, its enterprising spirit, irony hey.


commodities is the future, oil, wheat, water, grains, metals etc. things are the next new thing, not cheap credit fuellled property speculation or basing a economy on consumer spending and ignoring production/manufacturing. you've been sold down the river, and still support the doctrines of those who sold you, its all rather sweet, love is truly blind, lol

Perhaps. Russia is vast, and I'm certain that there is a lot of space that is untapped. This is very sudden. I may have missed it, but I don't recall any reconnaissance trips to the pole, on which these claims of resources are based.

[synergy777]

one russia is rather secretive about its tech, emp etc. they can map the sea bed floor, take geological studies, gather data about the compostion of the ocean floor. they also wouldn't claim it if it was worthless, and america wouldn't be pissed. remember the alaska scam. america knew there was oil underneath, the russian's didn't. they brought it off russia for 3 million usd, this is russia's reply back. thats why bush is pissed, he needs oil and water. canada has oil and water, watch him try to grab that via companies, the oil sands are another source of oil for usa. either he will get them via corporations or the proposed american union.

[tinmenace]

one russia is rather secretive about its tech, emp etc. they can map the sea bed floor, take geological studies, gather data about the compostion of the ocean floor. they also wouldn't claim it if it was worthless, and america wouldn't be pissed. remember the alaska scam. america knew there was oil underneath, the russian's didn't. they brought it off russia for 3 million usd, this is russia's reply back. thats why bush is pissed, he needs oil and water. canada has oil and water, watch him try to grab that via companies, the oil sands are another source of oil for usa. either he will get them via corporations or the proposed american union.

Other countries surrounding the Arctic are also up in arms. I don't believe this is simply a Russia vs USA thing.

[synergy777]

canada, what military have they got. if anyhting the alaskan lands, north pole, should be the inuits/eskimos.

the inuits are indian/oriental mix, who migrated via the beiring strait, or in earlier times.

[hagbard_celine]

The Arctic region has always been an important strategic foothold. From it you can literally look down on all thw world. What's more I think the Hollow Earth theory may be involved here. There's another struggle going on for the southern polar region. Some of it has been in secret, as in Britain's secret war in Antarctica, and some of it open, as in the Falklands War.

Is something going on in the Inner Earth that the Loomies know about, but we don't? Are the Agarthans planning to break their silence and come out of their shell?

[freethinker]

North Pole Inner Earth Expedition - YouTube

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOv02YPVn9I

Brooks Agnew took over after the previous organizer died. It sounds all very fascinating, but they're charging £15,000 a ticket! What's more this is the third supposed expedition. The last two both went the same way: just before the departure date the website went down and we heard notihng for a coupel of months; then it came back up, advertizing next year's expedition!

Are they ever going to actually go?

[tinmenace]

Brooks Agnew took over after the previous organizer died. It sounds all very fascinating, but they're charging £15,000 a ticket! What's more this is the third supposed expedition. The last two both went the same way: just before the departure date the website went down and we heard notihng for a coupel of months; then it came back up, advertizing next year's expedition!

Are they ever going to actually go?

If this is the same guy I'm thinking of (name doesn't seem to be the same, but I'll double check), not only did he die, he died "suddenly from SIX brain tumors"! WTF?? :eek: How do you not know that you have a brain tumor, never mind SIX of them? Seemed very suspect to me because I was following the progress and updates of that expedition very carefully, and then wham! All over. Done with.

Very strange. :confused:

Edit: The guy that died suddenly was Steve Currey

Source (http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm)