9/11 and the 20 $

[converger]

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what a coincidence some geometric shapes create a prophecy .
9+11=20
what do you think about is it bizzare ...

[triforcharity]

No, I don't. With enough free time, anyone can make just about anything saay whatever they want.

[secondsun]

No, I don't. With enough free time, anyone can make just about anything saay whatever they want.

...hmmmm!..... really?

...well i have been playing with this empty Golden Virginia pouch now for about ten minutes or so and cant get it to look like an Aston Martin DB9 for love nor money!

...or maybe its just you have not worked out how big this Conspiracy thing is and how long its been going on!?

[frase]

TENUOUS SHITE..Dont waste your time on this crap.
Gives the 9/11 truth movement a bad name.
Stick to the facts and what can be proved and spread the word.

[secondsun]

TENUOUS SHITE..Dont waste your time on this crap.

...personally i dont hink its crap.... but i dont waste too much time on it!

Gives the 9/11 truth movement a bad name.

...does it?.. think its quite interesting... to a lesser extent maybe!?

Stick to the facts and what can be proved and spread the word.

...ok!.... in respect to The WTC... you could not design a building to look more like a number 11 if you tried!!!..... fact!

[quetzalcoatl]

Well considering this & all other inconvenient 'coincidences' (hollywood hints, portrayals of Arabs) & the fear based propaganda & programming is very much in both 'theaters' - war on consciousness anyone?? I think it's obviously a Illuminati / Masonic plan that's been in the making a very long time.. a plan to 'justify' an on-going war, muscle in on 'depleting' oil reserves, make a quick couple of bucks & instill a sense of fear & need of protection in the general populace.. - all profit & control motivated.. :( yet weakly veiled as 'spreading democracy' & 'liberation of peoples'.. :mad:

Thing I struggle with is how uncanny these depictions resemble the event.. - wouldn't @ all be surprised if, for some beneficial reasons, the game plan & MO was placed in 'plain sight'. After all the 'beast loves to put it's signature' on everything..

[triforcharity]

How is it propaganda when Bin Laden has attacked us before, and proved he was serious about doing it again??

USS Cole ring a bell?? How about the Embassy Bombings??

[quetzalcoatl]

How is it propaganda when Bin Laden has attacked us before, and proved he was serious about doing it again??

USS Cole ring a bell?? How about the Embassy Bombings??

How bout does false flag ring a bell??

Bin Laden.. ahhahaha! das a good 'un.. :p

USS Cole:- Yeah! :rolleyes: Al 'CIA' Qaeda successfully 'infiltrate' US Navy intelligence, then in under 2 hours of mooring in Aden harbor, Yemen, manage to send 2 suicide bombers in a dingy, with a 'Shaped Charge' attached to the front - which just so happen to hit directly where crew-men were lining-up for lunch, killing 17 sailors.

Possible. Yet, I'm pretty sure it ain't so black & white.. ;)

USS Cole bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can a shaped charge traveling @ 'dingy speed' do that damage?? - un-educated guess would say this looks like torpedo damage.. :confused:

Or;

Check out the picture; it even sorta looks like it's been 'blown outwards' - as opposed to an external blast.

President Bill Clinton declared, "If, as it now appears, this was an act of terrorism, it was a despicable and cowardly act. We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable".

Some critics have pointed out that, under U.S. law, an attack against a military target does not meet the legal definition of terrorism.

The bombing, said President Clinton, in his speech at the USS Cole memorial ceremony was the act of "hate-filled terrorists" who "envy our strength without understanding the values that give us strength. For them, it is their way or no way: their interpretation, twisted though it may be, of a beautiful religious tradition; their political views; their racial and ethnic views."

Don't worry, I'm sure they're not lying to ya.. :rolleyes:

[triforcharity]

A "shaped charge" sitting perfectly still could do that also. Ie: Okalhoma City Bombing.

Now, what is so suspicious that the area that was hit also happened to be the mess hall?? A much better place to hit would be where the munitions were held, as the damage that would be done would have been SUBSTANTIALLY larger.

A torpedo would have done MUCH more daamage to the inside of that ship. It would have been a much bigger damage pattern, and it would have killed many more people. Aand most likely, would have sunk that ship.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/MV_Blue_Marlin_carrying_USS_Cole.jpg

Does this look to be an blown from the inside?? Sure looks like it mostly goes in from that view.

[tb303]

A "shaped charge" sitting perfectly still could do that also. Ie: Okalhoma City Bombing.



Are you suggesting that other explosives were used at the Oklahoma bombing apart from the truck bomb?

[quetzalcoatl]

A "shaped charge" sitting perfectly still could do that also. Ie: Okalhoma City Bombing.

Now, what is so suspicious that the area that was hit also happened to be the mess hall?? A much better place to hit would be where the munitions were held, as the damage that would be done would have been SUBSTANTIALLY larger.

A torpedo would have done MUCH more daamage to the inside of that ship. It would have been a much bigger damage pattern, and it would have killed many more people. Aand most likely, would have sunk that ship.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/MV_Blue_Marlin_carrying_USS_Cole.jpg

Does this look to be an blown from the inside?? Sure looks like it mostly goes in from that view.

Well, like I said twas an un-educated guess - I simply would have thought a shaped charge would have required some considerable 'forward thrust' to penetrate armor / targets etc.. merely going by the fact they're usually used as missiles, RPG's, torpedo's etc.. yet it totally doesn't surprise me in the least, with the technological 'achievements' these days. Also, I was only looking @ the Wiki-link picture, where the L/H side seemed to buckle out-ward.

Although, would it really matter (to the 'evidence' we're left with) if it were a couple of 'towel brothers' in a dingy or internally planted devices?? - Considering:-

Shaped charge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They are also used to demolish large obsolete structures by precisely placed and progressively timed cutting charges with the intent of causing an inward collapse that confines the debris to the structure's footprint. (This method is termed Building implosion.)


Oh noes! - if it sunk, the option of pawning it off as scrap metal, to say China, would diminish.. (*HINT*) :p

Either-way, do you really think war is not strategically planned in advance & 'consent' is not manufactured?? :cool:

Also, I can't see clearly in this picture. ;)

[triforcharity]

Are you suggesting that other explosives were used at the Oklahoma bombing apart from the truck bomb?

No, I am not, as I do not have that much working knowledge of the OKC bombing.

But, thanks for twisting my words, trying to put words in my mouth, and taking things out of context.

[tabea_blumenschein]

Can a shaped charge traveling @ 'dingy speed' do that damage?? - un-educated guess would say this looks like torpedo damage.. :confused:

What about the many stationary shaped charges that have been used against heavily armored American military vehicles in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Would they have been more effective if the insurgents had picked them up and thrown them?

[triforcharity]

Tabea,

No, not at all. The purpose of a shaped charge is to control its trajectory. Ie: Arranging the charge to be shaped like a half moon, the majority of that explosive force is not going to blow towards the convex side, it will blow to the concave side.

If they were to throw them, it could have a negative effect on the power and trajectory.

[tabea_blumenschein]

Tabea,

No, not at all. The purpose of a shaped charge is to control its trajectory. Ie: Arranging the charge to be shaped like a half moon, the majority of that explosive force is not going to blow towards the convex side, it will blow to the concave side.

If they were to throw them, it could have a negative effect on the power and trajectory.

Oh, I understand that. What I asked was a rhetorical question intended to be a counterexample for quetzalcoatl's benefit.

Maybe I should have phrased it a bit more sarcastically ... ;)

"dingy speed! ..." :p

[merlincove]

Are you suggesting that other explosives were used at the Oklahoma bombing apart from the truck bomb?

i thought that was a given standard, explosive experts have said that the Oklahoma building suffered extensive internal damage that could only have been caused with placed explosives, many have said the internal collums of the building had exploded outwards.

David covered this in his book, i think it was alice and the 911.

[quetzalcoatl]

"dingy speed! ..." :p

Good one eh?? :p

:D

What about the many stationary shaped charges that have been used against heavily armored American military vehicles in both Iraq and Afghanistan? Would they have been more effective if the insurgents had picked them up and thrown them?

How silly! ;) - I only know a little about the Gulf War & Iraq never stood a chance then, they totally had no hope now.. considering the design of 'heavily armored vehicles' - guess the 'best' they can do is slow movement down some..

Anyway.. I like hypothesizing, & will continue to do so.. ;) - was this not clear?? :p

Over-all, it doesn't take a genius to figure out war is 'big business' & utterly evil to the core.. you have 'allied countries' selling out-dated hardware & arms to the 'enemy' - which no-one really has any extensive training with (unless the CIA step-in as 'friend-lies' to train as pawns against a 'bigger threat' or secondary objective / 'resource' IE; Iran).. So how bout some nit-picking here then?? ;)