YouTube banning truthseeker videos

[flyermay]

This week I saw on YouTube some truthseekers that have been banned or threatened just for speaking out about the NWO.

Alex Jones' channel has already been closed when he was getting over 1 million views per week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjobG6XphH0

Now the guys from "Everything is O.K." had been threatened by YouTube, supposedly due to 'privacy' issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQrWkBsBHg

Is this just coincidence, or has YouTube alternative reasons to shut down these people? (like the rest of the MSM)

[marpat]

But is it because they speak out or because what they say is offensive to persons or perhaps unproven accusations (which could create problems and lead to legal tangles, etc)

Why should youtube be used as a vessel for people to say anything they want and get away with it?

Is it just NWO vids that are being banned or just a host of vids that are infringing the rules? do those vids contain music that people have no license to reproduce, etc?

[wildhorse]

notice how they dont ban many other 'offensive' vids, ones that take the piss out of somebody on a very low level and the likes

but get some truth about tptb out there...boomf....vid gone, even if its indirectly linked

freedom of speech ??? :rolleyes:

[flyermay]

But is it because they speak out or because what they say is offensive to persons or perhaps unproven accusations (which could create problems and lead to legal tangles, etc)

Why should youtube be used as a vessel for people to say anything they want and get away with it?

Is it just NWO vids that are being banned or just a host of vids that are infringing the rules? do those vids contain music that people have no license to reproduce, etc?
Because we are told that no censorship and free speech exists???

I don't think that copyright issues are the same as free speech.

And what is more offensive: killing innocent women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan, or calling the Bush-Blair / Obama-Brown administrations criminals? Of course it's offensive, but aren't other criminals called by their name in the MSM everyday without any concern about it being offensive?

[flyermay]

notice how they dont ban many other 'offensive' vids, ones that take the piss out of somebody on a very low level and the likes

but get some truth about tptb out there...boomf....vid gone, even if its indirectly linked

freedom of speech ??? :rolleyes:

Exactly!!!

"One law for all, none for the PTB"

[marpat]

notice how they dont ban many other 'offensive' vids, ones that take the piss out of somebody on a very low level and the likes

but get some truth about tptb out there...boomf....vid gone, even if its indirectly linked

freedom of speech ??? :rolleyes:

Perhaps it has more to do with who can back up a legal fight. I know somebody about who an article was printed in a paper years ago and it had a really negative effect on his life. The reporter phoned him before publication to ask if he had £20,000 because that is what would be needed to make a legal challenge to the article. He did not have the money so it got printed.

Perhaps it is to do with outlets of free speech getting shut down or perhaps the people who run youtube dont want a corporation or powerful politician taking a huge chunk of money from them.

[marpat]

Exactly!!!

"One law for all, none for the PTB"

Or footballers, or anyody who is very wealthy for that matter

[marpat]

Because we are told that no censorship and free speech exists???

I don't think that copyright issues are the same as free speech.

And what is more offensive: killing innocent women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan, or calling the Bush-Blair / Obama-Brown administrations criminals? Of course it's offensive, but aren't other criminals called by their name in the MSM everyday without any concern about it being offensive?

But there must be a limit as to what people can say. Example, you piss somebody off so they make a video claiming you mother was on the game, they produce 'witnesses' that testify on the video to say that this is true. The video is then put on youtube for all to see. Not only would it be false but it could be hugely damaging to your family and friends, etc. Can you appreciate that the site managers might want to avoid such things occuring?

Now if people have an issue with governments and present their own views on things, without having all the facts to hand, then what they could be saying may be false, damaging lies.

There are articles in MSM that criticise the legality of the current wars so why would youtube put a ban on that?

Innocents are being killed but who is doing it? too many people are happy to place the blame on the west and not mention the fact that insurgents are often very indiscriminate with their weapons and bombs.

[flyermay]

Or footballers, or anyody who is very wealthy for that matter

Oh, no, celebs are in a different league; no way near the "above the law" status that the elite enjoys.

The reason is simple: who makes the law?

[marpat]

Oh, no, celebs are in a different league; no way near the "above the law" status that the elite enjoys.

The reason is simple: who makes the law?

Well some members of the royal family have been issued with fines and points on their licenses for driving offenses. Also, Baroness sctoland is a law maker and has ended up being fined for breaking a law that she helped to bring in. They are not totally immune

[skunksmash]

LOL.....ive been away for 2 months & you two (Marpat / Flyermay) are still at loggerheads ;):p

still flying the flag of disbelief Marpat......:D

[marpat]

Are you saying that what I posted is not factual? did the baroness not get fined £5000 for hiring an illegal immigrant, an offence under laws that she helped create?

[flyermay]

But there must be a limit as to what people can say. Example, you piss somebody off so they make a video claiming you mother was on the game, they produce 'witnesses' that testify on the video to say that this is true. The video is then put on youtube for all to see. Not only would it be false but it could be hugely damaging to your family and friends, etc. Can you appreciate that the site managers might want to avoid such things occuring?

Yes, that would be true; but in this case, YouTube is not liable for the opinions of those who upload videos (like many other media that shows external collaborations and opinions).

Now if people have an issue with governments and present their own views on things, without having all the facts to hand, then what they could be saying may be false, damaging lies.

But then, according to you, governments are allowed to present their own views to taxpayers also without having the facts right (i.e. Gulf of Tonkin sinking, babies killed in incubators, weapons of mass destruction, Osama hiding in Afghanistan, and on, and on, and on...).

The problem is, if someone says something about my mother in YouTube, the worst thing that can happen is that 1 or 2 people could die. But when governments feed fabricated evidences to the MSM, millions of innocent men, women and children die. Don't you see the difference?

There are articles in MSM that criticise the legality of the current wars so why would youtube put a ban on that?

Perhaps, everything is for sell in this world; even one's integrity. Corporations don't look to be fair and honest, but to make the highest profits (whether they come in the form of money, political or business favours). Or they could be simply threatened by the PTB; they wouldn’t be the first!!!

Innocents are being killed but who is doing it? too many people are happy to place the blame on the west and not mention the fact that insurgents are often very indiscriminate with their weapons and bombs.

I don't see what's wrong with insurgents. What would you do if a foreign government invades your country, steals all the wealth, manipulates your government, and leaves death, misery and destruction wherever they pass through? Wouldn't you also rebel?

[flyermay]

LOL.....ive been away for 2 months & you two (Marpat / Flyermay) are still at loggerheads ;):p

still flying the flag of disbelief Marpat......:D

:D I've also been off for more than a month.

But this time I'm not fighting with Marpat, just exchanging points of view. ;)

[flyermay]

Well some members of the royal family have been issued with fines and points on their licenses for driving offenses. Also, Baroness sctoland is a law maker and has ended up being fined for breaking a law that she helped to bring in. They are not totally immune

Let's put it this way: imagine that you drop a penny on the street by accident... would you bend down to pick it up? That's what our fines mean for the elite... peanuts!!!

Though fines take a good chunk of our income, don't they?

"...and justice for all" (or so they say) :)

[marpat]

Let's put it this way: imagine that you drop a penny on the street by accident... would you bend down to pick it up? That's what our fines mean for the elite... peanuts!!!

Though fines take a good chunk of our income, don't they?

"...and justice for all"

I agree with that. I still think that there is a lot that will be totally unaccountable. Has the world ever been any different throughout its history? it is embarrasing for a top law maker to be in such a situation though. I always thought there was something fishy about her anyway, she doesnt look Scottish :D

[flyermay]

I agree with that. I still think that there is a lot that will be totally unaccountable. Has the world ever been any different throughout its history? it is embarrasing for a top law maker to be in such a situation though. I always thought there was something fishy about her anyway, she doesnt look Scottish :D

Well... you're right, the world was never perfect or fair or just; and probably we are living in the best moment in history.

Just 3 issues:

It's a petty that billions have to suffer for us to be so prosper
The elite is not responsible for any social improvements (at the contrary), but pressure from the masses.
And we are still a long way to go til perfection (specially now that we have taken some steps backwards).

[marpat]

Well... you're right, the world was never perfect or fair or just; and probably we are living in the best moment in history.

Just 3 issues:

It's a petty that billions have to suffer for us to be so prosper
The elite is not responsible for any improvements social improvements (at the contrary), but pressure from the masses.
And we are still a long way to go til perfection (specially now that we have taken some steps backwards).


I think for anybody to have great propserity will mean that somebody else lacks it purely due to limitation of resources. If we equalled it out then these issues would probably begin to disappear but there is no way the extremely rich and powerful are going to giv etheir power up. The only way they will lose it is by force or the intervention of something greater than their ability to control or neautralise.

I agree that it is popular pressure that pushes real social reform and progress.

Is perfection a real goal or just an ideal? what is perfect?

[george tatum]

notice how they dont ban many other 'offensive' vids, ones that take the piss out of somebody on a very low level and the likes

but get some truth about tptb out there...boomf....vid gone, even if its indirectly linked

freedom of speech ??? :rolleyes:

Sadly, this is not the case.

Youtube have banned a multitude of videos for all kinds of reasons. Some are totally harmless, but unfortunately they breached copyright law. Others breached personal boundaries and when complaints were received the website made their own decision based on the evidence and took action. They don;t need to say why - that is their right as owners of the website.

The point is, when you sign up to youtube, there are TERMS AND CONDITIONS. The website is free and for the most part it is VERY open minded. You can find everything from executions to white supremacist propoganda, guitar lessons, deleted scenes from the 'Dawn of the Dead', otters, frogs, tampons, 9/11 debates and NWO rantings. Arguably it is one of the greatest and most important things to have happened to the internet in terms of freedom of information.

However, if someone oversteps the mark and breaches the rules youtube are perfectly entitled to ban them. Lest we forget they are providing a FREE SERVICE!

If anyone has any complaints they should simply come up with an innovative concept for a new website and take away youtube's audience. It worked for Facebook when they snatched a high percentage of Myspace's fanbase.

Alternatetively, just post your videos elswhere where there are no terms and conditions. Simple as that.

[flyermay]

I think for anybody to have great propserity will mean that somebody else lacks it purely due to limitation of resources.

I don't think that's the case. With the current state of development all 7 billion of us could live in paradise; but the offer doesn't include decadent luxuries.

Now imagine what would happen if all our efforts were put to make our and other's lives better, instead of using it to kill, control and manipulate: "we could even conquer space and live in happiness and harmony forever" (Bill Hicks) :)

If we equalled it out then these issues would probably begin to disappear but there is no way the extremely rich and powerful are going to giv etheir power up. The only way they will lose it is by force or the intervention of something greater than their ability to control or neautralise.

Yes, absolutely true. Well... worse for them, if they don't give it up we will have to take it by force; their choice!!! :D

Is perfection a real goal or just an ideal? what is perfect?

Not sure if absolute perfection is possible, but we can certainly achieve higher levels (or even fall in more imperfections).

[marpat]

I don't think that's the case. With the current state of development all 7 billion of us could live in paradise; but the offer doesn't include decadent luxuries.

Now imagine what would happen if all our efforts were put to make our and other's lives better, instead of using it to kill, control and manipulate: "we could even conquer space and live in happiness and harmony forever" (Bill Hicks) :)



Yes, absolutely true. Well... worse for them, if they don't give it up we will have to take it by force; their choice!!! :D



Not sure if absolute perfection is possible, but we can certainly achieve higher levels (or even fall in more imperfections).

So Bill Hicks makes a remark and its true? true humanity could attain so much more but I think there will always be differences and this is where conflicts come from. Not everybody wants the same thing and though people may want peace for themselves do not always want it for those that they dislike.

Could everybody on the planet truly live in paradise or is that an ideological speculation?

[fekdemasons]

So Bill Hicks makes a remark and its true? true humanity could attain so much more but I think there will always be differences and this is where conflicts come from. Not everybody wants the same thing and though people may want peace for themselves do not always want it for those that they dislike.

Could everybody on the planet truly live in paradise or is that an ideological speculation?

So in essence by your definition , any ideological speculation is unobtainable?

Puting a man on the moon was once an ideological speculation.

THe word " Or " implies a difference. like " Black or White "

[flyermay]

So Bill Hicks makes a remark and its true?

Of course not, it just happens that I agree with him on that one (actually, in most of what he said).

He also said that women like "goat-men", but I don't agree with him on that one. :D

true humanity could attain so much more but I think there will always be differences and this is where conflicts come from. Not everybody wants the same thing and though people may want peace for themselves do not always want it for those that they dislike.

Yes, I agree, but conflicts could just lead to arguments or simple fights, or to horrible wars promoted by the elite for their own benefit.

Imagine that you live in paradise (whatever your idea of paradise is), would you volutarily go to war with those you dislike or disagree with?

Could everybody on the planet truly live in paradise or is that an ideological speculation?

That depends on what we call paradise. Some people could think that paradise is having lavish mansions and dozens of serverts; but I don't think it would be paradise for those who serve, so it can't be a real paradise.

For some reason every time I see a documentary about a lost tribe that has little or no contact with civilization, I think of paradise; so I guess I'll conform with little for my own paradise (and that's surely not an unreachable dream).

[roserenouf]

I watched David Icke and Arizona Wilder on youtube tonight. I looked up a guy called Dr. Mengele or is it Dr. Mangala. When I look it up on internet I my computer was attacked by viruses and they it tryed to shut it down.

[tothestars]

I watched David Icke and Arizona Wilder on youtube tonight. I looked up a guy called Dr. Mengele or is it Dr. Mangala. When I look it up on internet I my computer was attacked by viruses and they it tryed to shut it down.

Dr. Green

Josef Mengele

not a nice guy (i am sure we all agree on that)

http://www.illuminati-news.com/graphics/josef-megele4.jpg

[flyermay]

I watched David Icke and Arizona Wilder on youtube tonight. I looked up a guy called Dr. Mengele or is it Dr. Mangala. When I look it up on internet I my computer was attacked by viruses and they it tryed to shut it down.

That happened to me twice in the past 6 months while looking at YouTube videos (once with they computer's power supply and with the monitor -both suddenly stopped working-). But since I'm always between YouTube and Icke's forum, the chance of that not happening would be tiny.

I bet it's just a coincidence.

[freeyourmind85]

notice how they dont ban many other 'offensive' vids, ones that take the piss out of somebody on a very low level and the likes

but get some truth about tptb out there...boomf....vid gone, even if its indirectly linked

freedom of speech ??? :rolleyes:

Exactly! I've seen vids on YT that are literally pro-pedo and they don't get taken down or banned. It's sick :mad: However they will take down videos that tell the truth. WTF :eek:

[macneil]

Exactly! I've seen vids on YT that are literally pro-pedo and they don't get taken down or banned. It's sick :mad: However they will take down videos that tell the truth. WTF :eek:

I don't understand why they permit this either, it's obvious. I was looking at stuff on you tube last night and a Breast Feeding vid came into the relative videos. I was interested to check how many hits and it had something like 16 million. I done a search there now on the subject and it's obvious people are getting off on this...

Similar to other 'innocently' uploaded stuff like feet, teens etc you will notice have high hits... blatently obvious.

I can't see how they could take down 'Everything is ok' for copyright as I've never heard or seen any copyright material?

[flyermay]

I don't understand why they permit this either, it's obvious. I was looking at stuff on you tube last night and a Breast Feeding vid came into the relative videos. I was interested to check how many hits and it had something like 16 million. I done a search there now on the subject and it's obvious people are getting off on this...

Similar to other 'innocently' uploaded stuff like feet, teens etc you will notice have high hits... blatently obvious.

I can't see how they could take down 'Everything is ok' for copyright as I've never heard or seen any copyright material?

They want to ban them for privacy issues, not for copyright. I'm sure the police complained about showing their faces on YouTube; which is ridiculous, since the police has 40,000 cameras in Britain.

I tried a couple of times complaining about those videos that are really offensive, and can you believe that YouTube did nothing to ban them? (well... I guess you do believe it :))

[macneil]

They want to ban them for privacy issues, not for copyright. I'm sure the police complained about showing their faces on YouTube; which is ridiculous, since the police has 40,000 cameras in Britain.

I tried a couple of times complaining about those videos that are really offensive, and can you believe that YouTube did nothing to ban them? (well... I guess you do believe it :))


Ahh ok, I see... there is no real arguement to that side tho unless an individual complains? Taking into account other mainstream policed events.

Must be because they are Terrorists...

Please move along to your next shopping experience. Stay miserable. Everything is ok.

[flyermay]

Ahh ok, I see... there is no real arguement to that side tho unless an individual complains? Taking into account other mainstream policed events.

Must be because they are Terrorists...

Please move along to your next shopping experience. Stay miserable. Everything is ok.

It seems that when someone complains for something really offensive, then YT does nothing. But if the British police complains to YT (in the US) about their faces shown on YT (when they are public employees) then they do something about it.

Alex Jones' YT channel was also banned, and I'm not sure if it was because someone complained or because they didn't like the content; probably the last since all the videos on the channel were deleted.