Defending the dollar - Reason for the 911 attack?

[Anders Lindman]

In November 2000, Saddam Hussein demanded euros for all his oil.

The dollar-oil relationship has to be maintained at all costs since the dollar altogether depends on it.

All costs would include a staged terrorist attack used to allow the U.S. to attack Iraq.

In September 2001, a terrorist attack against the U.S. did happen. There are evidence indicating that the terrorist attack was staged.

[soglad]

One reason of many my friend. There's dozens of them! And that is a primary one...:cool:

[368jrn]

And what do you suppose the Iranians are currently selling their oil in? Dollars? no, Euros ? yes! The Iranian Oil Bourse, google it. But will America dare attack Iran? when it is Iran who supplies China with its oil, while China hold enough Dollars in bond etc that they could very easily cause the dollar to devalue, However if another 9/11 incident were to occur, America could "justify" their Iranian offensive.:)

[kblood]

Ahh.. that makes alot of sense. Never did make much sense as to why they did attack Iraq.

"But they had weapons of mass destruction!" - riiight
"Saddam Hussein was an evil dictator" - Yea, so the US better make sure that the people knows they do not agree with dictators killing alot of people. Oh wait, isnt that something they are still doing?
"But Iraq is better of with Democrachy!" Of course it is. That makes all the corruption go up in smoke...

Okay, that might all be a bit harsh. I actually do believe Democrachy might at least make the people of Iraq feel more free than before, and they might then dare believing in something else than having to submit to their leaders.

I can only hope that it will make it easier for them to actually find some peace in Iraq. Probably wont happen untill a few years after all forces of other countries have left Iraq again. That just doesnt seem to be likely, even in the next 4 years. Probably longer.

Still, very nice info there :) I never did see why they would kill of one of their own, after having served the US so well, in so many ways. I guess he stayed a good pawn by giving the US a good war, and a martyr of a kind for the world to see.

[Anders Lindman]

The puffed up Iranian threat surely smacks of dollar defense.

Have we failed to understand how important the oil-dollar relationship is for holding the U.S. dollar floating? Maybe the U.S. government is really, really desperate. :eek:

[Anders Lindman]

Still, very nice info there :)

I got it from listening to Ron Paul. :D

[matrixcutter]

9/11 was probably planned before the towers were even built.

They were a giant Jachin and Boaz, and they came down in 2001 - the start of the new millenium.

The pentagon (the middle of a pentagram) had its masonic groundbreaking ceremony on 9/11, and Bush made his NWO speech on 9/11, in 1990, and again in 1991.

These are not coincidences.

[Anders Lindman]

9/11 was probably planned before the towers were even built.


Maybe they knew that the petri dollar sooner or later would be attacked and then something like the 911 disaster was needed in order to justify and attack on oil producing countries that started to sell oil in other currencies than the U.S. dollar.

Some of this is explained in this video called Conspiracy: Iraq

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7468036928744736416

[368jrn]

Matrixcutter, you said 9/11 was probably planned before the towers were built, or conversely the towers were built with future demolition in mind , when the time was right.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html

check out this link and see what you think.

[freespark]

9/11 was probably planned before the towers were even built.
They were a giant Jachin and Boaz, and they came down in 2001 - the start of the new millenium.

The pentagon (the middle of a pentagram) had its masonic groundbreaking ceremony on 9/11, and Bush made his NWO speech on 9/11, in 1990, and again in 1991.

These are not coincidences.

Very valid point that. These guys work in hundreds if not thousands of years. A twenty or thirty year wait for a plan to come to fruition is nothing. The dates and number symbology with things like this are very very important.

[cruise4]

Yes this certainly looked like a part of it.

[steevo]

The thing that prompted the war more than anything else is the so called "axis of Evil" North Korea, Iran, Iraq (and who is the other one, I forget ?) decided to deal in Euros when buying and selling oil. This in effect would make the US bankrupt.

This first was brought to my attention a year or two ago by Rob Newman's "History of Oil", a one man stand-up show :-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159

I recommend you watch it cos it's an eye opener. He also points out that both of the World Wars were because of oil and centered around Iraq, which suggests that the current war/power-struggle has been on the cards since the end of WW2 and Israel was strategically placed for this purpose.

Rob Newman was the other half of david baddiel in the comedy show "The Mary Whitehouse Experience". He is a political activist now as well as stand up comic.

[Anders Lindman]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5267640865741878159


Wow.

[nuit]

In November 2000, Saddam Hussein demanded euros for all his oil.

The dollar-oil relationship has to be maintained at all costs since the dollar altogether depends on it.

All costs would include a staged terrorist attack used to allow the U.S. to attack Iraq.

In September 2001, a terrorist attack against the U.S. did happen. There are evidence indicating that the terrorist attack was staged.

I really do not want to get on the wrong side of anyone as i am still a newbie, but ............................WTF!!!!!!!!!
Firstly i think it only fair to point out that the US had been buying their oil for years and years at a scandously low price, and even if the price was upped per barrel they were still getting it at a well reduced rate.
Secondly, iraq and afghanistan are so ridiculously far apart that it really is plain the two things were or at that time could not be connected.
Plus if you take into account the fact that after only 3 days in office Bush jr let it be known that he planned to go to war with iraq (so he could be daddy's favourite again, no doubt), and that the 2 officials who were sent into iraq from US and the UK, both adviced against war, and yet Bush still went ahead.One of those officials sadly took his own life at the start of the enquiry into Bush's actions, the other promptly resigned from office.
So when the shit starts to hit the fan what is the easiest way to turn the publics view? .........................try to relate something that the public feel strongly about i.e 9/11 and link it to what the public are becomingly increasingly opposed to, i.e war in iraq
To further my theory on this, how coincidental do you think it was that at the height of the publics anger, the white house issued a statement declaring Saddam's son's had been killed?????????????????
And not wanting to sound to facietous, but do the US military really expect us to believe that they had been trampling over the exact ground above Saddam's bunker for weeks prior and never knew it was there?????????????
Big heavy army boots, sandy solid ground underfoot and then suddenly ground that his hollowed out underneath, and they never knew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perfect timing on Bush's part and in his favour, yet again.............coincidentally

OOPS but on your 9/11 for iraq oil theory.............i'm not totally convinced, sorry

[Anders Lindman]

Firstly i think it only fair to point out that the US had been buying their oil for years and years at a scandously low price, and even if the price was upped per barrel they were still getting it at a well reduced rate.

But how do you explain this 'coincidence': In November 2000, Saddam Hussein started to demand euros for all his oil.

And what about this coincidence:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

Is there a pattern here?

[nuit]

well of course they demanded more money for there oil they were being ripped off price per barrel severely

the question really is ........................what does iraq and saddam hussain have to do with the taliban in afghanistan?

[Anders Lindman]

well of course they demanded more money for there oil they were being ripped off price per barrel severely

the question really is ........................what does iraq and saddam hussain have to do with the taliban in afghanistan?

Afghanistan - natural gas pipeline. Iraq - oil - euro. Iran - oil - euro. Is there a connection?

If that is not petro dollar interest incitement, check this out:

X-rated video:

Matt Simmons (Bloomberg): Peak Oil Now, Oil Perhaps to $300 - YouTube

[matrixcutter]

But how do you explain this 'coincidence': In November 2000, Saddam Hussein started to demand euros for all his oil.

And what about this coincidence:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CLA410A.html

Is there a pattern here?
Is that the Saddam Hussein who was put into power (and kept there) by the CIA, or is that the Saddam Hussein who was said by his wife not to be her husband, before being hung?

Do you really believe in Peak Oil? Why?
There is enough oil to last for centuries, and we don't even need oil as much as we use it.

[Anders Lindman]

Is that the Saddam Hussein who was put into power (and kept there) by the CIA, or is that the Saddam Hussein who was said by his wife not to be her husband, before being hung?

Do you really believe in Peak Oil? Why?
There is enough oil to last for centuries, and we don't even need oil as much as we use it.

Why? Because all the media shills don't talk about it. That's why. Have you ever heard Alex Jones or David Icke talk about peak oil? No? How about Alan Watt? No? Think about that for a moment, will ya?

[matrixcutter]

Why? Because all the media shills don't talk about it. That's why. Have you ever heard Alex Jones or David Icke talk about peak oil? No? How about Alan Watt? No? Think about that for a moment, will ya?
I've heard Watt talk about the fact that it's a provable scam.

Who do you think came up with the idea? Why? Think about that for a moment, will ya?

9/11 was NOT about oil. It is such an obvious thing to say, that I am amazed anybody has to say it.

[Anders Lindman]

I've heard Watt talk about the fact that it's a provable scam.

Who do you think came up with the idea? Why? Think about that for a moment, will ya?

9/11 was NOT about oil. It is such an obvious thing to say, that I am amazed anybody has to say it.

Ha. Provable scam? Sweet dreams. :D

[Anders Lindman]

Ha. Provable scam? Sweet dreams. :D

Honestly, I don't have the facts to back up a possible peak oil crisis, but the total SILENCE about the subject, not only in mainstream media, but also throughout the whole so-called 'truth' movement is staggering.

Only from a few sources do we hear about it, such as:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[Anders Lindman]

http://www.lowcountrymga.org/photos/oil.jpg

[matrixcutter]

Honestly, I don't have the facts to back up a possible peak oil crisis, but the total SILENCE about the subject, not only in mainstream media, but also throughout the whole so-called 'truth' movement is staggering.

Only from a few sources do we hear about it, such as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ooqz3rsEJg
There was massive interest in the Peak Oil scam a few years ago. There was not total silence. People don't seem to be discussing it any more, but nevertheless, it seems that not everybody saw through it.

[fccool]

Hehe, here we go gain. Think logically. If 911 was about defending the dollar, and if they really wanted to defend the dollar... the last thing they would do is to wage a reckless war that would destroy the value of the dollar even more so.
If they really wanted then they could have simply asassinate Sadam, stage revolution and install another... favorable dictator like they've done in Iran a half of century ago. Iraq is no Venezuella. People go with who is yelling the loudest.

I think that 911 was to trigger the fall of the dollar, and not to protect it in any way. That may be the reason given to the participants: "Gentleman... if you love your country then you will do it and all of you will receive 50 million (of the 3 trillion that disapeared from pentagon) dollars, and you will not be allowed to go back to your home country forever. You are doing it to protect our economy". Heh, sounds like THE ROCK move ;). BUT this administration has NO interest in keeping the dollar afloat, and in fact it is done more to destroy the dollar more than any other administration before it. So I think their goal is to do away with the dollar and transition to something newer and "better". Iraq was and national defence pumped so much monopoly money into already inflated economy, that like any inflated baloon it will eventually pop if you keep blowing air (money) into it. They understand it, they are not idiots. They understand that if you give people tax cuts they will borrow more on expectations that economy will bloom and thus creating even more unbacked money. They understand that war is the #1 inflation mechanism historically. They understand that they need an idiot sailing the ship, so when the ship ends up sinking in deep waters they have an idiot to blame.

SO IMO it is quite the opposite they are trying to do. By no means they are preserving the dollar. They are mere puppets working for the masters in teturn for illusion of grandeur. Masters think that now is the time to unite the world by way of big bang of the dollar. It will be scary for a couple of months, or perhaps even a year.... heck I've lived through it back in 1991. So it's nothing new, it's just history repeating itself one more time (and for the last time methinks)

[Anders Lindman]

There was massive interest in the Peak Oil scam a few years ago. There was not total silence. People don't seem to be discussing it any more, but nevertheless, it seems that not everybody saw through it.

I didn't know that. Sounds like a real media setup. They created a rumor about peak oil, then debunked it as a scam. But you know, I don't buy it.

[Anders Lindman]

Hehe, here we go gain. Think logically. If 911 was about defending the dollar, and if they really wanted to defend the dollar...

We need to understand what they needed to defend the dollar against. The U.S. dollar is TOTALLY dependent on its relation to oil. If the euro would become the new petro currency, then we would have to kiss the U.S. dollar goodbye. THEY SIMPLY COULD NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!!

[Anders Lindman]

It's very simple:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-703701197044020456

[matrixcutter]

We need to understand what they needed to defend the dollar against. The U.S. dollar is TOTALLY dependent on its relation to oil. If the euro would become the new petro currency, then we would have to kiss the U.S. dollar goodbye. THEY SIMPLY COULD NOT LET THAT HAPPEN!!!
Why not?

The dollar needs to suffer before they can bring in the Amero and complete the NAU. All part of the plan, as was 9/11. But 9/11 was NOT about oil. The very idea of it rests on the assumption that there isn't one global group at the top pulling the strings, which there is, and has been for centuries.

[Anders Lindman]

Why not?

The dollar needs to suffer before they can bring in the Amero and complete the NAU. All part of the plan, as was 9/11. But 9/11 was NOT about oil. The very idea of it rests on the assumption that there isn't one global group at the top pulling the strings, which there is, and has been for centuries.

I am watching the video I posted (A_Crude_Awakening_The_Oil_Crash_Full_Version). It's a long video, but o boy, you will likely never think the same again after you have seen it.

Frankly, just some weeks ago, I had no clue how important oil was in the whole scheme of things. Now I am just thinking: Holy, holy shit!!!!!

[Anders Lindman]

Hope for the World!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2495396454164003233

:D