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free thinker
02-10-2009, 10:34 PM
Monday, 21 September 2009

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The internal workings of one of the most secretive institutions in Ireland, the Masonic Order, may be publicly exposed after a writ was issued in the High Court in Belfast against a provincial grand master and the general secretary in Dublin.


News of the unprecedented legal action comes as The Lost Symbol, the new novel by Dan Brown about the pursuit of “ancient mysteries” hidden in Washington DC by the Freemasons, hit the shelves and sold millions in its first week of publication.

The legal proceedings by father and son Stewart and Brian Hood has rocked the arcane world of the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Ireland.

Neither party would discuss the issues behind the High Court action but sources within the Masonic say it relates to serious disagreements and disciplinary actions within the Antrim provincial lodge that arose more than two years ago.

A writ naming Barry Lyons, the grand secretary of the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons in Ireland, whose headquarters is in Molesworth Street in Dublin, is expected to be served in the coming days.

Mr Lyons is named in the writ lodged in the High Court in Belfast on September 10, which afforded the order 21 days to have an appearance entered on behalf of the Grand Lodge. In February 2007, the Antrim provincial lodge was rocked after secretly taped recordings of meetings held in its Rosemary Street Hall in Belfast were sent in the post to members of the lodge. The PSNI was asked to investigate the incident but detectives told the Masons that they were unable to establish that a criminal offence had been committed.

Since then there have been attempts to resolve the issues that have caused friction within the Antrim Masons, which is thought to have around 7,000 members.

Within the Masons, the official line has been that the dispute was resolved through Grand Lodge-directed mediation, but the High Court writ issued 10 days ago by the Hoods against John Dunlop, the provincial grand master of Antrim and the general secretary of the Masons in Ireland, has stunned the membership.

Businessman Brian Hood declined to discuss any details of the action, but did say: “I can confirm that my father and I have laid the writ. We are happy to be Freemasons but are appalled at the conduct of the management of the provincial lodge of Antrim.

“It is our intention to have a court hearing. If we cannot get a fair hearing and justice within the Masonic Order, then we have to seek justice elsewhere and take steps to have injustice addressed.”

In a quarterly communication in June 2007, posted on its website, the Grand Lodge of Ireland included a minute referring to the dispute in Antrim.

“The assistant grand master reported on the findings of the sub-committee chaired by himself, set up to consider complaints between Brethren in Antrim and Senior Provincial Grand Lodge Officers in Antrim,” it said.

In June of last year, the Grand Lodge website assured members that the dispute in the Antrim Lodge had been resolved.

When asked last week whether the Antrim provincial grand master and the general secretary would defend the writ, a member of staff at the Masons Rosemary Street office in Belfast would only say: “We are not making any comment at the moment.”



Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/legal-action-could-lift-the-lid-on-northern-irelands-freemasons-14502212.html#ixzz0SoRI2tBz

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keystone
02-10-2009, 10:50 PM
This was posted in either General or Todays News when the article first appeared. Is there any further information. I do hope its not about something trivial.

Whats the little "knowing wink" for? Are you salivating at the thought of something salacious? :D

Cheers

free thinker
02-10-2009, 11:05 PM
This was posted in either General or Todays News when the article first appeared. Is there any further information. I do hope its not about something trivial.

So sorry Keystone, i checked back a few pages under the freemason thread, didn;t see it anywhere, hence the post, doh!.. silly me not looking anywhere else..:(


Whats the little "knowing wink" for? Are you salivating at the thought of something salacious? :D


Haven't got a smile for > http://www.angelfire.com/planet/lds/grandhailingsignofdistress.gif

:)

keystone
02-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Piccy no vuable!

free thinker
02-10-2009, 11:28 PM
Piccy no vuable!

strange, never mind... it's not iimportant - was there when i previewed post.:)

zero1
02-10-2009, 11:44 PM
In February 2007, the Antrim provincial lodge was rocked after secretly taped recordings of meetings held in its Rosemary Street Hall in Belfast were sent in the post to members of the lodge. The PSNI was asked to investigate the incident but detectives told the Masons that they were unable to establish that a criminal offence had been committed.

No surprise there. Aren't most of the majority Protestant PSNI involved in or beholden to, Masonry? And no mention of the Orange Order or Black Lodge?

tut-tut...

keystone
02-10-2009, 11:53 PM
No surprise there. Aren't most of the majority Protestant PSNI involved in or beholden to, Masonry? And no mention of the Orange Order or Black Lodge?

tut-tut...Funny you should read it that way.

It was the Provincial Grand Lodge (ie the masonic authority) that wanted to know if the making of those recordings consituted a criminal offence. Surely by your assessment if PSNI were beholden to the local masonic authority then they would have said entirely the opposite of what they did say. Sorry - does not compute to me.

Why should they mention Orange Order or Black lodge if its a purely Provincial Grand Lodge of Antrim matter?

Confused I am. :confused:

Cheers

zero1
02-10-2009, 11:57 PM
Funny you should read it that way.

It was the Provincial Grand Lodge (ie the masonic authority) that wanted to know if the making of those recordings consituted a criminal offence. Surely by your assessment if PSNI were beholden to the local masonic authority then they would have said entirely the opposite of what they did say. Sorry - does not compute to me.

Why should they mention Orange Order or Black lodge if its a purely Provincial Grand Lodge of Antrim matter?

Confused I am. :confused:



So am I, slightly. If this issue concerned only the Provincial Grand Lodge, why is the Grand Master in Dublin being indicted as part of it?

I take your point about the Orange Order / Black Lodge, but perhaps it's habit to infer the involvement of Masonic bedfellows in controversies concerning the Masons.

keystone
03-10-2009, 12:05 AM
So am I, slightly. If this issue concerned only the Provincial Grand Lodge, why is the Grand Master in Dublin being indicted as part of it?Ahh - that we don't know because the two guys who are bringing this action ain't saying what its about. I suspect it might be because they think the Antrim Lodge (which reports to Dublin) is trying to bury whatever this is so the obvious thing to do is bypass them and go further up the tree to force the issue. After all theres no quicker way of getting your complaint about product X dealt with the manufacturer than heading for the MDs office if the guys down the line in marketing are stonewalling you.

I hope its worth all the effort though and not just about the price of a pint at the bar. :D

I take your point about the Orange Order / Black Lodge, but perhaps it's habit to infer the involvement of Masonic bedfellows in controversies concerning the Masons.Yes I guessed as much - sorry if I was sarcy.;)

Cheers

mike martin
03-10-2009, 02:01 AM
There were some rumblings about this over at TFM about a year ago but it all went quiet until this headline.

Mike

zero1
03-10-2009, 02:14 AM
Ahh - that we don't know because the two guys who are bringing this action ain't saying what its about. I suspect it might be because they think the Antrim Lodge (which reports to Dublin) is trying to bury whatever this is so the obvious thing to do is bypass them and go further up the tree to force the issue. After all theres no quicker way of getting your complaint about product X dealt with the manufacturer than heading for the MDs office if the guys down the line in marketing are stonewalling you.

I hope its worth all the effort though and not just about the price of a pint at the bar. :D

Yes I guessed as much - sorry if I was sarcy.;)

Cheers

Thank you, Keystone. :)