Feminism/Homosexuality and Illuminati

[weddings]

I read somewhere that as far back as the 1700s, the Illuminati saw promotion of feminism and homosexuality as a way to break up society and the family home. Can someone refer me to a site or a book which has more on this?

[thelonious]

I read somewhere that as far back as the 1700s, the Illuminati saw promotion of feminism and homosexuality as a way to break up society and the family home. Can someone refer me to a site or a book which has more on this?

The Illuminati (historic Bavarian order by that name) had as its principles, among other things, equal rights for women and minorities (including homosexuality). Naturally, the spin doctors in the Catholic Church took issue with that, and twisted it into "destroying the family" and all the other self-righteous B.S.

[weddings]

The Illuminati (historic Bavarian order by that name) had as its principles, among other things, equal rights for women and minorities (including homosexuality). Naturally, the spin doctors in the Catholic Church took issue with that, and twisted it into "destroying the family" and all the other self-righteous B.S.

Yes I don't put it past the vatican for a minute to use it for their own gain. Quite why the Illuminati, not one to lose sleep over women's lib, wanted to promote minorities remains an interesting point though, don't you think?

[1977]

The Illuminati (historic Bavarian order by that name) had as its principles, among other things, equal rights for women and minorities (including homosexuality). Naturally, the spin doctors in the Catholic Church took issue with that, and twisted it into "destroying the family" and all the other self-righteous B.S.
Hrm yes, the International Vatican/Jesuit Conspiracy. Truly, there is no end to the perfervid machinations of Popery. Quite.

[vakenmark]

Like many or all social movements (like the truth movement) the Elite compromised, infiltrated and lead feminism down the wrong path.

The issue of womens "roles" rights and subjugation throughout history is central to the division of humanity and is still being largely ignored.

Issues of sexuality have always existed, that the Elite would USE such issues is a no brainer.

What we still have, sadly, is a deteriorating situation for 50% of the Earths population.

[mike martin]

I read somewhere that as far back as the 1700s, the Illuminati saw promotion of feminism and homosexuality as a way to break up society and the family home. Can someone refer me to a site or a book which has more on this?

It's in here: http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/PROOFS_OF_A_CONSPIRACY_John_Robison.pdf

[eternal1stparty]

Modern feminism receives an F+ from me and seems to turn women into mindless promiscuous fools who drink a-lot and make out with each other in the name of independence. It seems to turn men into heavy drinking promiscuous babies and leaves other men (me) wishing we had a wife and kids, searching in vain for a woman who will stop partying and wish to settle down and raise a family.

I hate the modern world so much.

[eternal1stparty]

The Illuminati (historic Bavarian order by that name) had as its principles, among other things, equal rights for women and minorities (including homosexuality). Naturally, the spin doctors in the Catholic Church took issue with that, and twisted it into "destroying the family" and all the other self-righteous B.S.

How can you claim that it hasn't destroyed the family at least for the most part?

Were not reproducing? Why? read my previous post, short as it is, its to the point.

[dalem]

I read somewhere that as far back as the 1700s, the Illuminati saw promotion of feminism and homosexuality as a way to break up society and the family home. Can someone refer me to a site or a book which has more on this?

And yet the Knights Templar movement openly commit acts of Sodomy as part of the initiation process.:rolleyes:

You might find THIS LINK (http://www.cuttingedge.org/n1084.html) interesting.

[nefilim777]

I can't comment on the Mason's or Knight's Templar [Although, Dalem you are incorrect], however many other occult and esoteric groups do favour the liberation and equality of women. The Scarlet Woman, for example, or BABALON, is seen as the ultimate symbol for the liberated female. She, if she so wishes, can dominate the man [beast] and, like men, who's whorishness is celebrated, she too can be promiscuous if she so wishes, if it is her will. This does not mean that, in order to be a liberated woman, then they must become whores, it just gives women ample opportunity to exercise their sexual freedom without being degraded for it. It is a balance between men and women that should be strived for. If there is not harmony within opposing forces then energies are not flowing properly, at the moment there is no harmony between the male and female energies. Eliphas Levi's image of 'Baphomet' [if we must call it that] is the perfect depiction of both the male and femal energies, among other things.

In the later grades of the OTO the practioners begin the study of sex magick, this involves homosexual magick too, but mainly these practices are regurgatated methods of sexual awakening or ritual that has been taken from Eastern traditions and have existed long before the time of Christ or even this 'illuminati'.

[meksar]

Feminism and Homosexuality is the double edged sword to subvert society, it is implanted into our minds by the Illuminati. Many feminist and homosexual equality activists are radicalized in government sponsored cults, this was the plan from the start. Where it all ends is in satanic decadence with sadomasochism and pedophilia now the next frontier for the Illuminati.

Women deserve equal rights but it has been done in a deceitful way, it always had a route in Marxism. Homosexuality is something i think that most people are rarely naturally subjected to, the mainstream propaganda will claim that one in ten people is naturally gay. With claims like these and now even primary school children receiving lessons on sexuality, is it any wonder why groups like NAMBLA has emerged?.

[meksar]

Marxism, Radical Feminism and Militant Homosexuality

http://www.jstor.org/pss/4406044

[luciferhorus]

Marxism, Radical Feminism and Militant Homosexuality

http://www.jstor.org/pss/4406044

Slave morality (religious morality) and sins of restriction.

One of the aspects which these three descriptions (Marxism, Radical Feminism and Militant Homosexuality) have in common is that they are not "religious" positions, though I do concede that Marxist Communism does come fully loaded with it's own brand of metaphysics, unlike Anarchist Communism which is purely a political philosophy. All three descriptions are devoid of any form or religious morality which would seek to "prohibit" or to deem immoral (i.e., evil), natural erotic activities between consenting adults; indeed Anarchist Communists do, by default, tend almost universally to promote Thelemic morality, irrespective of whether they use the term.

Militant Homosexuality and Militant Heterosexuality.

The term "militant homosexuality" implies that homosexuals are evengelically "militant" and seek to violently convert others to a homosexual lifestyle by force; however this is entirely untrue with regards to Gay Rights activists in general. However... there "are" many proponents of slave morality and the sins of restriction who are "militantly heterosexual" and indeed even "militantly monogamous" in the most negative sense, particularly among hypnotised victims and proponents of Islam and Christianity, who believe that gays and lesbians or indeed anyone who is involved in any type of same sex relatioinships (including militant evangelical bisexuals and polyamorists such as myself) should be "put to death." While Jewish and Islamic laws promote "polygamy (where one male can have many sex slaves)" they are entirely opposed to polyamory and polyamorous men and women can be executed under their laws. Thus I think a natural dialectical response to such individuals from those who do not suffer from religious hypnosis or the effects of religious morality is that such militantly evangelical heterosexuals, monogamists or polygamists should themselves be "put to death;" this is certainly my own position and it is merely a dialectical response to religious bigotry and homophobia.

http://isocrat.org/images/history/gayhistgk.jpg

Same sex relationships in ancient cultures.

The obviously homophobic author of the essay hyperlinked above states that "..there hardly exists a culture in history which did not impose some kind of restrictions on sexual expression or behaviour of its members." This is probably certainly the case; even the Romans and Greeks which were certainly cultures where bisexuality was considered perfectly normal had laws regarding "adultery;" however such laws had to do more with the matter of "private property." In ancient Athens, women were usually sold (for a dowry) shortly after puberty to a male in his 20's or 30's. An Athenian law allowed a man to execute on the spot, any other man who was caught having sex with his wife or concubine (sex slave); a married woman who had sex with someone other than her husband could be thus executed, but men were free to have sexual relationships with other males and with other females who were prostitutes / professional mistresses. Such laws really had a great deal to do with "property" inheritance and a male being assured that the inheritors of his estate were his own children. In fact the adjective "heterosexual" is derived from the Greek noun "Hetera." A "Hetera" was a term for a Greek prostitute or concubine who would have sex with other men. Thus in the historical context, the tem "heterosexual" refers to a woman who sells her services to a man for money or to a man who pays for such services, though "hetero" strictly speaking simply means "other" or "different."

Laws which restrict the sexual freedom of the individual or which promote the sins of monogamy and enforced legalised sex slavery (marraige) are simply considered, from an Anarchist, Thelemic and Nietzschian perspective (all of which share a common view of sexual morality) to be restrictions on erotic desires which are "beyond good and evil" and are entirely natural; laws restricting sexual freedom are simply the laws of Archons (tyrants), whether they may be the laws of a republic (the rule of a few over the many), a mono-archy (the rule of one person) or a democracy (the tyranny of the majority) or of religious fanatics.

The Regressive (backward thinking), Conservative (to conserve the past) mind and the Progressive (to go forward) Liberal (to liberate) mind.

The regressive, conservative thinker, will look back to some ancient time, cherry picking through our ancestor's behaviours and beliefs, and state "our ancestors behaved this way, so this must be good." Of course if we look back through the history of the world we can find examples of probably just about "any" type of behaviour. Those who take a "some of our ancestors executed people for adultery, so we should also" position are generally those who have a regressive and rather primitive way of thinking and are succeptible to religious hypnosis.

It should be pointed out that many cultures also considered homosexual relationships to be "sacred" and indeed an "ultimate" form of relationship, such as the opinion of Plato that love between men was the highest form of love, or the fictional relationship between the Greek heroes Achilles and Patroclus, and the fact that homosexual relationships were as "compulsory" in the Spartan military (almost all males in Sparta joined the military) as heterosexual slavery was in Judaism and Islam., etc., however such matters are conveniently ignored by the cherry picking historian who seeks to interpret history according to their own religious morality.


History as propaganda

The author of the above hyperlinked essay seems to ignore the "economic" reasons for sexual laws in ancient history. In many cultures where men could keep sex slaves (wives and concubines) sacred prostitution with priests and priestesses was also often common; this was not considered "adultery since such individuals were not the private property of any individual.

Since the author of the hyperlinked essay is writing from a Hindu perspective, I should point out that in the Kama Sutra, which is a highly sexual form of Hinduism, where "sex" is considered the highest sacred ritual, it states in the text that homosexual sex "is to be engaged in and enjoyed for its own sake as one of the arts." . It is also very common for hermaphrodites and feminine and transexual males in India to be considered somewhat "sacred," as opposed to "sinful (i.e., evil);" further, unlike Judaeo-Christianity and Islam, nowhere in the Hindu texts are homosexual relationships forbidden, and further sex between a woman and an animal (such as the infamous Vedic "horse" ceremony) is considered a sacred ritual. Further "marraige" in Hinduism (and also in Judaism and Islam) is also a property rite and has nothing to do with Christian monogamy, since men could have numerous wives.

Sex slavery

Since most people who are evangelically homophobic in Europe and America are either the victims or proponents of Christian religious hypnosis, to look back to the ancient world of the Israelites and to attempt to apply such laws to the modern world is usually the result of cherry picking, emphasising some scriptures and ignoring others, if the Mosaic law were applied, father's could again sell their daughters to the highest bidder, wealthy males could have many wives, and they could demand repayment of dowries from the seller (the father) if the slave (the daughter) did not "satisfy" them; those who invaded nations could also subject the population to holocaust, but spare virgin females (young prepubescent female children) and take them as sex slaves; individuals could be executed for working on Saturdays (Friday sunset till Saturday Sunset) or for disobedience to parents (including refusing to be sold as a sex slave), for having sex with someone whom you had not purchased or been purchased by as a slave, or for same sex relationships and numerous other violations of such ancient laws; such matters are usually conveniently ignored by the Chrisitan cherry pickers of the Bible, and I have not even mentioned the New Testament and Jesus' forbiddance of wearing shoes, carrying money or having more than one robe, etc.

Lux

Our own tyrants learned this lesson through bitter experience, when the love between Aristogiton and Harmodius grew so strong that it shattered their power. Wherever, therefore, it has been established that it is shameful to be involved in sexual relationships with men, this is due to evil on the part of the rulers, and to cowardice in the part of the governed.

Plato, Symposium.

[meksar]

Transhuman & Eugenics World Order

The Age of Transitions. The cutting edge group known as transhumanists see a beautiful future brought about by artificial intelligence, life extension, and cybernetics. What one must realize before getting carried away with such utopian dreams is that transhumanism was born out of the elitist pseudo-science eugenics. This documentary provides vital information on the history of eugenics and its new cutting edge transformation.

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[blackstar76]

Modern feminism receives an F+ from me and seems to turn women into mindless promiscuous fools who drink a-lot and make out with each other in the name of independence. It seems to turn men into heavy drinking promiscuous babies and leaves other men (me) wishing we had a wife and kids, searching in vain for a woman who will stop partying and wish to settle down and raise a family.

I hate the modern world so much.

I totally agree with you on that one!!!! seems like the world has become one big screw fest. Nobody wants to have a family lifestyle anymore. It is all about partying and having fun or working yourself to death to keep up with material possesions and status symbols. Even the ones that are family orientated seem to break up and go to their seperate rooms to watch T.V, play video games, or compute. What the heck is going on? Who is raising the children?

[meksar]

Communists forcing Gay lessons onto school children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9ZZXi9V9A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOIkWQWAK8Y&feature=related

[choice]

I totally agree. I also think we should have again a society where women aren't allowed to work, have to know how to cook, sew, raise the kids alone, and wear skirts max till the knees.
The male should work for the house, come home, sit on sofa, demand the dinner on time, and smoke a pipe.
On the week-ends they would invite his chef and respective family, have a bbq in the garden, let the kids enjoy themselves together, and play the happy family. After that, the woman should head to the kitchen, do the dishes, give a shower to the kids and dog, and before going to bed do the missionary position (only).

http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/lc/image/alpha/poster26.jpg

http://www.ushmm.org/propaganda/assets/images/500x/aryan-family-neues-volk.jpg

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/nazi-family-3.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mg7D3kYysfw/R40TGrqBn5I/AAAAAAAAE-A/iH84_mmtmPA/s400/bormann_3.jpg

http://blog.binnyva.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/hitler_paper.jpg

Hitler Propaganda at it's best btw.

[theperceivingeye]

haha I thought you were serious at first... Well you never know with some people.

[meksar]

Book Exposes NWO’s Hidden Agenda For Feminism & Homosexuality

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/book-exposes-nwos-hidden-agenda-for-feminism-homosexuality/

[energi]

I totally agree with you on that one!!!! seems like the world has become one big screw fest. Nobody wants to have a family lifestyle anymore. It is all about partying and having fun or working yourself to death to keep up with material possesions and status symbols. Even the ones that are family orientated seem to break up and go to their seperate rooms to watch T.V, play video games, or compute. What the heck is going on? Who is raising the children?

Who is raising the children? Others.


People who decide to have children have A LOT of responsibility. All of those other things (watching TV, video games, computers) are distractions from actually being a parent.

I will go into a rant/circular-logic type of argument if I continue to write :mad:, so I'll leave it at that for now.

[freedom1st]

Yes I don't put it past the vatican for a minute to use it for their own gain. Quite why the Illuminati, not one to lose sleep over women's lib, wanted to promote minorities remains an interesting point though, don't you think?

Not when you realise the goal was to double the amount of tax payers.

[meksar]

Not when you realise the goal was to double the amount of tax payers.

Yes they could not tax women in mass before these feminism movements took off, also they got children into the education system at a younger to receive an earlier dose of government indoctrination.

[sxmrx]

Modern feminism receives an F+ from me and seems to turn women into mindless promiscuous fools who drink a-lot and make out with each other in the name of independence. It seems to turn men into heavy drinking promiscuous babies and leaves other men (me) wishing we had a wife and kids, searching in vain for a woman who will stop partying and wish to settle down and raise a family.

I hate the modern world so much.

I agree with you, i consider myself a feminist but I absolutely cannot stand the "Ladette" interpretation and the men-hating "Feminazis".

These types of women do not represent feminism in any way shape or form, and they give feminism a bad name.

It is all about equality, between men and women and thats it. Simplez!

There are indcredible men in this world being brought down by these loonies who use Feminism as an umbrella to stand under when being completely misandrist, and digressing from their own self respect.

[luciferhorus]

It is all about equality, between men and women and thats it. Simplez!



There is a saying that "Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day." That the economic elites have tended to promote the Feminist aganda, is a position which Christians, religionists and other Paternalists (male supremacists) tend to point to and they make the argument that if the economic elites and establishment social engineers are promoting feminism, then it must be something bad. Generally, to state the obvious, the economic elites of Capitalism tend to promote their own interests. Further I tend to think that since the economic establishment generally all have children and extended families who have themselves grown up in the modern world of feminism, sexual liberation and experimentation in general, that they are perhaps also affected by more progressive and liberal elements in their own families; that even establishment politics tend to include feminist issues and gay rights issues as "correct politics" may well be due to the fact that within the families of the world's economic elites are many individuals who are themselves feminists, gays, lesbians etc. This is of course not viewed as a progressive tendency by the religious fanatics, many of whom would like to return to an age where people are executed for adultery, homosexuality, disobedience to their parents, witchcraft and for working on a Saturday (the Sabbath).


Lux

[meksar]

Communism, Zionism and Feminism share NWO pedigree

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115553

[meksar]

GAY COPS BRINGING IN TOTALITARIAN NWO

http://www.henrymakow.com/from_richard_evans_httpwwwtele.html

UK Welfare State = Family Breakdown, Emasculated Men

http://www.henrymakow.com/uk_welfare_a_generation_of_ema.html

[sxmrx]

There is a saying that "Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day." That the economic elites have tended to promote the Feminist aganda, is a position which Christians, religionists and other Paternalists (male supremacists) tend to point to and they make the argument that if the economic elites and establishment social engineers are promoting feminism, then it must be something bad. Generally, to state the obvious, the economic elites of Capitalism tend to promote their own interests. Further I tend to think that since the economic establishment generally all have children and extended families who have themselves grown up in the modern world of feminism, sexual liberation and experimentation in general, that they are perhaps also affected by more progressive and liberal elements in their own families; that even establishment politics tend to include feminist issues and gay rights issues as "correct politics" may well be due to the fact that within the families of the world's economic elites are many individuals who are themselves feminists, gays, lesbians etc. This is of course not viewed as a progressive tendency by the religious fanatics, many of whom would like to return to an age where people are executed for adultery, homosexuality, disobedience to their parents, witchcraft and for working on a Saturday (the Sabbath).


Lux

Well said.

[93krystalmoons]

I agree with you, i consider myself a feminist but I absolutely cannot stand the "Ladette" interpretation and the men-hating "Feminazis".

These types of women do not represent feminism in any way shape or form, and they give feminism a bad name.

It is all about equality, between men and women and thats it. Simplez!

There are indcredible men in this world being brought down by these loonies who use Feminism as an umbrella to stand under when being completely misandrist, and digressing from their own self respect.

You couldn't have said the truth more elegantly in terms of actual egalitarian based feminism versus misandry. Not all of us are Andrea Dworkin...I've been scoping some articles and threads on feminism related to NWO agendas; however I think that maybe much of these women who have been deceived are either just women-sheep, or depopulist misandrists. I'm tired of feeling that because I'm feminist/graduate student of women's studies that I must be some man-hater who thinks abortions are fun and loathes children lol. :rolleyes:

[ufochick]

Yes they could not tax women in mass before these feminism movements took off, also they got children into the education system at a younger to receive an earlier dose of government indoctrination.

yep yep, teaching women that they are not enough being mothers and wives has been something the media has comtinued to push. Put those kids in day care at 6 weeks, you are nothing without a salary and career.. bullshit....

The first thing people ask me when they meet me is "what do you do?" like if I don't have a career then I am nothing. I say I am a wife.. that always confuses them.

If you choose to have children it's your obligation to be responsible for raising them. Dumping them in a day care at 6 weeks isn't acceptable. The mothers who have the nerve to say "I would go insane staying home with my kids" should not have had them and need some rethinking on their priorities.

Children are the future of our race they need their parents attention and teachings. To many use the TV or video games as babysitters. I long for thr time when being a parent is considered a job in itself, and is taken seriously. If you don't want to commit to being the very best parent you can be then buy a dog. All they require is love, a place to run, shelter and quality food.

[meksar]

Vicious Feminism in the Schools

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTNluBtxCS8&feature=related

[meksar]

When Women Rule The World on Richard & Judy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJu_6Ri2NEY&feature=related

[meksar]

It's A Mans World Quit Letting These Bitches Run Shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKN0JX0vB8w&feature=related

[imaginarysoul]

Feminism and Homosexuality is the double edged sword to subvert society, it is implanted into our minds by the Illuminati. Many feminist and homosexual equality activists are radicalized in government sponsored cults, this was the plan from the start. Where it all ends is in satanic decadence with sadomasochism and pedophilia now the next frontier for the Illuminati.

Women deserve equal rights but it has been done in a deceitful way, it always had a route in Marxism. Homosexuality is something i think that most people are rarely naturally subjected to, the mainstream propaganda will claim that one in ten people is naturally gay. With claims like these and now even primary school children receiving lessons on sexuality, is it any wonder why groups like NAMBLA has emerged?.

I object to your apparant treating of homosexuality as the reason for NAMBLA... Every homosexual, bisexual or pansexual i've ever met have been opposed to causes such as theirs.

Primary school children need to be taught about sexuality, if it ensures that a child won't have to grow up in shame of who they are, I ask why you would oppose?

[meksar]

I object to your apparant treating of homosexuality as the reason for NAMBLA... Every homosexual, bisexual or pansexual i've ever met have been opposed to causes such as theirs.

Primary school children need to be taught about sexuality, if it ensures that a child won't have to grow up in shame of who they are, I ask why you would oppose?

You think what have you been smoking crack or something?, i object to any form of sexuality being taught to primary school children and i am disgusted by the relentless promotion of homosexual degeneracy to children. You may be interested to know that the LGBT "community" has already been exposed as a elitist cesspit for pedophiles to gain access to young and vulnerable children.

Gay Activist Ring Leader of Paedophile Ring in Scotland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jSqIxM-9KE

[meksar]

They shall be offended by the truth!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFyYUwW3ElI&feature=PlayList&p=E83C851C1F6D9005&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=3

[imaginarysoul]

You think what have you been smoking crack or something?, i object to any form of sexuality being taught to primary school children and i am disgusted by the relentless promotion of homosexual degeneracy to children. You may be interested to know that the LGBT "community" has already been exposed as a elitist cesspit for pedophiles to gain access to young and vulnerable children.

Gay Activist Ring Leader of Paedophile Ring in Scotland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jSqIxM-9KE

For starters, we don't have crack in Australia, closest we get is ice, so no.

Secondly that would be at the fault of their humanity not due to their sexuality.

I'll thank you for not repeating the words "homosexual" and "degeneracy" in the same sentence again.
I don't insult your sexuality, please have some consideration for this fact.

[meksar]

For starters, we don't have crack in Australia, closest we get is ice, so no.

Secondly that would be at the fault of their humanity not due to their sexuality.

I'll thank you for not repeating the words "homosexual" and "degeneracy" in the same sentence again.
I don't insult your sexuality, please have some consideration for this fact.

What are you hetreophobic like these N.W.O cocksucker's?, who reward people for deliberate failure and degeneracy.

[meksar]

And before i am accused of being a misogynist/homophobe for uploading the two greatmilstone videos, i agree partially with what they say but i am free thinking enough to see there has been some hateful shit sprinkled on top of what is otherwise sound doctrine and truth.

[imaginarysoul]

What are you hetreophobic like these N.W.O cocksucker's?, who reward people for deliberate failure and degeneracy.

Hardly, many of my friends are heterosexual as are the few I relate with more closely... ;)
There is nothing degenerate about homosexuality, I can understand your fear of it but this should not be a reason for intolerance

[luciferhorus]

I object to your apparant treating of homosexuality as the reason for NAMBLA... Every homosexual, bisexual or pansexual i've ever met have been opposed to causes such as theirs.

Primary school children need to be taught about sexuality, if it ensures that a child won't have to grow up in shame of who they are, I ask why you would oppose?

Witchhunting.

Try reading through the 3000 odd posts that Meksar has on this forum Imaginary Soul.

You will find that Meksar is probably the most evangelically homophobic bigot on this forum. As far as Meksar is concerned paedophilia and homosexuality appear to be the same.

He has recently made numerous accusations on other threads that certain individuals are paedophiles and homosexuals, and when asked for evidence he has stated that it is what he "believes" and that it is his "intuition."

No evidence is required for Meksar to start accusing people of such things other than his own personal "belief" and "intuition."

I am sure that you mean well but you will have as much chance of having an intelligent argument with Meksar as you would with Hitler, McCarthy or the Westboro Baptist Church.

Lux
Gay, Black, Jewish, KKK, for World War and the Unification of the Motherland.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/uploads/4080/gay-black-kkk.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2964/bigotry.jpg

[imaginarysoul]

Witchhunting.

Try reading through the 3000 odd posts that Meksar has on this forum Imaginary Soul.

You will find that Meksar is probably the most evangelically homophobic bigot on this forum. As far as Meksar is concerned paedophilia and homosexuality appear to be the same.

He has recently made numerous accusations on other threads that certain individuals are paedophiles and homosexuals, and when asked for evidence he has stated that it is what he "believes" and that it is his "intuition."

No evidence is required for Meksar to start accusing people of such things other than his own personal "belief" and "intuition."

I am sure that you mean well but you will have as much chance of having an intelligent argument with Meksar as you would with Hitler, McCarthy or the Westboro Baptist Church.

Lux

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2964/bigotry.jpg

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/uploads/4080/gay-black-kkk.jpg

I agree. However I don't let people walk all over me due to their own ignorance, if that is how they wish to be thats all well and fine, but one should be more courteous and keep silent :)

I'm in admiration of your way with words might I add :D

[meksar]

Feminism Was Created To Destabilize Society

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN05DHO9bJw

How the Rockefellers Re-Engineerd Women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov0eVbaSyD4&feature=fvw

[meksar]

Homosexual Revolution Exposed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzFrtx2p74w

Freemasonry's Homosexual Hidden Agenda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUIxC2bedJs&feature=fvw

[meksar]

Witchhunting.

Try reading through the 3000 odd posts that Meksar has on this forum Imaginary Soul.

You will find that Meksar is probably the most evangelically homophobic bigot on this forum. As far as Meksar is concerned paedophilia and homosexuality appear to be the same.

He has recently made numerous accusations on other threads that certain individuals are paedophiles and homosexuals, and when asked for evidence he has stated that it is what he "believes" and that it is his "intuition."

No evidence is required for Meksar to start accusing people of such things other than his own personal "belief" and "intuition."

I am sure that you mean well but you will have as much chance of having an intelligent argument with Meksar as you would with Hitler, McCarthy or the Westboro Baptist Church.

Lux
Gay, Black, Jewish, KKK, for World War and the Unification of the Motherland.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/uploads/4080/gay-black-kkk.jpg
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2964/bigotry.jpg

Very cute how you try to put black people in the same category as homosexuals and Jewish people, the first group has been persecuted and deceived mercilessly whilst the other two groups are grossly over-represented in government, banking, media etc. You are also a advocate of Communism which is deadlier then cancer and bang on about Capitalism when we live in countries which operate a private Zionist Jewish central bank of criminals and mass murderers who hide their sub humanism behind radical Socialism.

[meksar]

Malcolm X Exposes White Liberal Jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp1yfWT9d6M&feature=related

[hatshepsut]

It seems to me that the basic nature of sexuality (an itch which needs to be scratched) is easily channeled into practically any outlet which provides gratification, especially in males. If the culture normalizes goat fucking, homosexuality, pedophilia or love of ripe fruit, then some cult will appear to fetishize it.

Furthermore, if the male is subjected to profoundly contradictory and confusing messages about women, and this is combined with a male-up women-down status structure, then that male is set up for homosexuality. It seems to mean more if it's with another male because they are valid, women are invalid.

This is the ancient regime. This is how they control both male and female sexuality -by proscribing or prescribing homosexuality as the (re)population pressures of the time and place dictate.

[_tzupidity]

If the physical body is an illusion then when you leave your physical body you will cease to be male or female. Thus making Gender and Sexuality irrelevant. Infinite love is just that, Infinite. All separation is an illusion created to distract you from the truth, to fill you with fear and make you pliable for those who would control you.

The agents of Fear like Meksar do not posess a Human Spirit. See their posts for clear evidence. No Human Spirit could be so ignorant and hate filled. The previously mentioned Phelps Church are another fine example, except Daddy Phelps and Daughter Phelps who run the organisation. They are something far worse.

The Human spirit moves naturally towards love and oneness. Agents like Meksar are a form of Animal spirit that is being used by the NWO to spread Fear, Ignorance and Separation. He is a trained animal barking and snarling to keep you going in the direction the NWO want. Your own love and empathy is the weakness he will use against you because you do not want to accept that he and those others like him are not Human. You want him to change, to experience the love you feel. This is impossible. All energy directed at him and those like him, be it positive or negative, feed the NWO and keep you in chains.

The only way to win is to choose Love over Fear. Pat him on the head as you pass and hope that one day he evolves into something closer to Love.

[luciferhorus]

It seems to me that the basic nature of sexuality (an itch which needs to be scratched) is easily channeled into practically any outlet which provides gratification, especially in males. If the culture normalizes goat fucking, homosexuality, pedophilia or love of ripe fruit, then some cult will appear to fetishize it.

Furthermore, if the male is subjected to profoundly contradictory and confusing messages about women, and this is combined with a male-up women-down status structure, then that male is set up for homosexuality. It seems to mean more if it's with another male because they are valid, women are invalid.

This is the ancient regime. This is how they control both male and female sexuality -by proscribing or prescribing homosexuality as the (re)population pressures of the time and place dictate.

http://www.djibnet.com/photo/262600861-lesbos.jpg

In ancient times, the economic elites tended to "own" wives and concubines. This practice is essentially about sex slavery and ownership. Consequently this came to be seen as "normal" and it also became the habit of the masses and was justified by religion, and religion has generally been a tool of the establishment to justify their tyranny and control the masses.

For most of the last 1600 years the political, economic and military "establishment" of Europe has been predominately Christian. It is only in the last 100 years or so that we see a mass secularisation and a mass counter-culture which is entirely opposed to Christian values.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.gadling.com/media/2008/04/sapphoerinna.jpg

For much of European history women have been little more than "pets;" service domestic and sexual slaves of males who became their property at the point of marraige.

There has been enourmous religious and social pressures on European Christian societies for many centuries which condemned all types of erotic relationships outside of marraige; sexual relationships between males were in fact illegal in the UK until 1967. It is only really in the recent era, particuarly since the 60's where we find a mass sexual awakening to sexual exploration and freedom.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4347/zeuscourtingganymede.jpg

There are of course those who are still bound by the establishment morality of the past; however the world we find ourselves in today is a world where people are free to explore erotic experiences and to abandon the sins of monogamy (possession) and exclusive heterosexuality. The rise of gay and lesbian culture is not a result of "social engineering," by a conservative establishment, though there may have been establishment figures who have lent their support to it, due to their own rather liberal views on human sexuality. The sexually liberated culture which we find ourselves in is mostly a product of human freedom; it is a product of free will.

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk72/celzmccelz/396px-Nisos_Euryalos_Louvre_LL450_n.jpg

Since almost none of the higher animals have been shown "not" to engage in same sex relationships, the argument that the gay and lesbian cultures which have appeared are a product of social engineering would have to be applied also to the animal world, however to suggest that there is some kind of establishment conspiracy to promote same sex relationships in the animal world would be a rather ridiculous assertion to make, and there is no evidence to suggest that such behaviour in the animal world is only a recent phenomenon.

http://wearepower.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/deerorgy.jpg

A litmus test for the effects of religious hypnosis and indoctrination could well be gagued by responses to the image above. There will of course be people who consider that the image of the animals above is "shocking" and "disgusting" and that the animals are engaged in "sinful," "unlawful," or "unnatural" behaviour and that they are violating the laws of God, and perhaps even that such animals should be executed for their "crime," or that perhaps the animals have been "brainwashed" by elite social engineers intent on corrupting the animal world. A person who is thus affected in any of these ways by the image, is, I believe, suffering from the effects of religious indoctrination and hypnosis, and they are simply making clear their general revulsion for nature, a revulsion which is often linked also to self hatred and the loathing of the human form; it is such individuals themselves who have been hypnotically "programmed" to react in such a way.

http://www.mnn.com/sites/default/files/gay-animals.jpg

If may well be the case that all animals and humans who engage in "same sex" relationships are "biologically" programmed to an extent, however I am not of the opinion that this is a flaw in the Creator's design; it is just nature as nature was intended.

The problems of the world are fundamentally "economic," however there is also the problem of religious indoctrination and religious hypnosis; the rebellion against religion requires also the breaking of the chains of religious morality and the thousands of religious laws which tell victims of hypnosis that it is somehow "sinful" to act in accordance with their nature, as nature intended.

Lux

[zmanforever]

I still believe that some type of Agenda is out and about trying to make homosexuality normal and to make this a part of life.

I am sorry if I am offending persons here, but I am against homosexuality, I will never agree with the NWO, NEVER!

Now if and if homosexuality does exist in nature, which some claim it does, then one must ask if this is true who created nature?

[hatshepsut]

Imo, the confluent rise of homosexuality of feminism are flip sides of the same coin ie. losing control of women necessitated an increased control of males. Males do not usually become committed homosexuals without some external status figure involved. They are recruited, "turned." They are sold the sense of belonging to an exclusive club, which is reinforced by the fact that they are indeed discriminated for, in many instances. Today women cannot compete with homosexuals for jobs and status within their own traditional spheres- eg. cooking (male chefs are always somehow more authentic, creative); medicine (males are doctors, women nurses) interior decoration (a male just somehow knows how to throw that rug just so); even flower arranging.

All these spheres are women's spheres, but have been entirely taken over by homosexual men.

Because they are more woman than women themselves.

lol.

Right. Men are everything, women nothing. Same old, same old.

Chivalry in men only existed when women were indisputably and only economic and reproductive extensions of men. When those functions became undermined, confused or contested - male hostility and contempt for women became legitimated.

It is no coincidence that power regimes such as the British empire (public school system); German Third Reich; Afghanistan's Taliban; Ancient Greece etc., all have /had social structures where women were repressed and male homosexuality was commonplace.

Divide and rule.

[asha loka]

The sexually liberated culture which we find ourselves in is mostly a product of human freedom; it is a product of free will.

There's nothing sexually liberated about this culture, and it's certainly not an expression of enlightened self-realisation - not when compulsive empathy-free sport-fucking is the new orthodoxy.

As an orthodox conservative yourself - is it a coincidence that you praise Sparta and other ancient Greek cultures as ideals, or that so many of your posts quote old authorities you consider venerable? - it's perhaps not a surprise that you don't get this.

[ufochick]

I read somewhere that as far back as the 1700s, the Illuminati saw promotion of feminism and homosexuality as a way to break up society and the family home. Can someone refer me to a site or a book which has more on this?

The breakdown of the family has been the goal of the illuminati. Families are made of many different types of people. A strong family unit is very very important to raising children. No fault divorce, the glamorization of unwed celebraties and other things have encouraged people to consider famies as disposable. They are not supposed to be. It has NOTHING to do with being gay.

[meksar]

If the physical body is an illusion then when you leave your physical body you will cease to be male or female. Thus making Gender and Sexuality irrelevant. Infinite love is just that, Infinite. All separation is an illusion created to distract you from the truth, to fill you with fear and make you pliable for those who would control you.

The agents of Fear like Meksar do not posess a Human Spirit. See their posts for clear evidence. No Human Spirit could be so ignorant and hate filled. The previously mentioned Phelps Church are another fine example, except Daddy Phelps and Daughter Phelps who run the organisation. They are something far worse.

The Human spirit moves naturally towards love and oneness. Agents like Meksar are a form of Animal spirit that is being used by the NWO to spread Fear, Ignorance and Separation. He is a trained animal barking and snarling to keep you going in the direction the NWO want. Your own love and empathy is the weakness he will use against you because you do not want to accept that he and those others like him are not Human. You want him to change, to experience the love you feel. This is impossible. All energy directed at him and those like him, be it positive or negative, feed the NWO and keep you in chains.

The only way to win is to choose Love over Fear. Pat him on the head as you pass and hope that one day he evolves into something closer to Love.

Bravo tzupidity you have got me, i am a soulless sociopath who rapes children, sacrifices children, throws money at people who are willing to sell their soul and have some gay sex while at it. I also pass laws which protect pedophiles, makes homosexuals and women above the law, there has also been talk of me drinking the blood of my victims.

[luciferhorus]

There's nothing sexually liberated about this culture, and it's certainly not an expression of enlightened self-realisation - not when compulsive empathy-free sport-fucking is the new orthodoxy.

As an orthodox conservative yourself - is it a coincidence that you praise Sparta and other ancient Greek cultures as ideals, or that so many of your posts quote old authorities you consider venerable? - it's perhaps not a surprise that you don't get this.

Well the Spartan culture had many virtues. Bisexuality was compulsory, so it was by default an anti-homophobic society which encouraged love between both men and women; in this respect it was anti-gay of course, but I don't have a problem with that since I personally feel that there is something very unnatural about people who are exclusively gay or lesbian, despite the fact that most of my close friends are either bi, gay or lesbian.

They were monarchists, but their "king" was essentially a communist dictator and was expected to be rather "Spartan" or "proletarian" as opposed to the idea of some rich aristocrat who lived in a palace.

Having said all this, the Spartans did keep slaves, and I find that anti-thetical to Communist ideals, so they were not a "perfect" society, but were certainly far in advance of the Athenians, whom most "democrats" today idealise, despite the fact that most democrats today despise democracy and are in fact Republicans.

I should point out that Athenian democracy was far from perfect; they also were a Paternalistic (male supremacist) "slave" society and of course, women, slaves and immigrants (non citizens) could not vote. Bisexuality was also not complusory, so although homophobia was not tolerated, if a person was exclusively heterosexual, that would be tolerated, though the exclusively heterosexual person would be considered rather strange.

Lux

[meksar]

Canadian Women Prosper at Expense of Men/Families

http://www.henrymakow.com/canadian_women_prosper_at_expe.html

[luciferhorus]

Canadian Women Prosper at Expense of Men/Families

http://www.henrymakow.com/canadian_women_prosper_at_expe.html

Henry Makow is a well known living definition of a Paternalistic (male supremacist), Christian, homophobe, anti-communist who has devoted his life to making a mockery of the god (Jesus) whom he claims to represent.

Lux

http://www.luciferia.tv/communist_jesus.gif

[meksar]

Henry Makow is a well known living definition of a Paternalistic (male supremacist), Christian, homophobe, anti-communist who has devoted his life to making a mockery of the god (Jesus) whom he claims to represent.

Lux

http://www.luciferia.tv/communist_jesus.gif


So your one of those depraved Jewish intellectuals who thinks "Jesus" was a homosexual Satanist right?.

[luciferhorus]

So your one of those depraved Jewish intellectuals who thinks "Jesus" was a homosexual Satanist right?.

Well just because the Gospel of Thomas depicts him as being gay, does not mean he was gay, he could have been pretending to be gay. Also just because his enemies describe him in the New Testament as being possessed by "Beelzebub" the "Prince of Demons" does not mean this is true; he could have just been pretending to be possessed.

Lux

[ellis_deatrip]

The Problem With Women Today (http://problemwithwomentoday.blogspot.com/2009/12/problem-with-women-today-what-in-hell.html) -This is a great read, Informative and comical .
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9194/iron20my20shirt.jpg
"What in the HELL happened to women?!? ... in just one generation?
It all started with this really stupid hate movement in the 1960's called ‘feminism .’ Everything you were taught about Feminism is a LIE and political propaganda, and everything you think you know about gender and human society is WRONG. Like the Nazis blaming the Jews for their own failures..."
The Problem With Women Today (http://problemwithwomentoday.blogspot.com/2009/12/problem-with-women-today-what-in-hell.html)

[sxmrx]

I think you will find that feminists (not "feminazis" who I think your post is directed towards) DO want harsher sentences on female child molestors, DO want to be considered for more dangerous jobs, etc etc etc.

It is so very dangerous that these mouthy ill informed women with an axe to grind bring about such a bad reputation for the true feminist.

It would probably be a good idea to make such women (as I do) irrelevant in a discussion on feminism- they simply don't literally know the meaning of the word.

EDIT:
I'd also like to add that I agree with a fair percentage of what is said on the link you gave, but this is simply because the entire population is so completely dumbed down, I found the webpage to be funny, and bang on in a lot of places, it is a fair example of brainwashed damsels too dumb and angry to know they are in distress. The unfortunate thing is that a large percentage of the male population are so dumbed down that it will be impossible to address these problems. Most of the general population don't think there is anything wrong with their lifestyles.

Good points.

[meksar]

Feminism and the War against Boys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeFp5VwWx2o&feature=related

[meksar]

Feminists Dont Care

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jBt9snxvoQ&feature=related

[lyricusmagna]

Meksar, do you know that there are entire cultures who are run solely by women out there? And they are doing just fine. Nothing satanic about it, and as far as I know, the Illuminati are not a part of it.

That is Feminism at its very peak. And probably hell for you :D.

Feminism and homosexuality have nothing to do with what you are trying to present, and quote the contrary, many of those that I know of and fall under this category, are actually against the establishment, against the system, against the elites and political armies.

This so called gay NWO agenda is only inside your mind.

[luciferhorus]

Meksar, do you know that there are entire cultures who are run solely by women out there? And they are doing just fine. Nothing satanic about it, and as far as I know, the Illuminati are not a part of it.

That is Feminism at its very peak. And probably hell for you :D.

Feminism and homosexuality have nothing to do with what you are trying to present, and quote the contrary, many of those that I know of and fall under this category, are actually against the establishment, against the system, against the elites and political armies.

This so called gay NWO agenda is only inside your mind.


There is clearly a "gay rights" and "feminist" agenda both from "above and below" in terms of the proletariate and "also" from the establishment to end discrimination on grounds of sexuality and gender. These issues are entirely progressive, however they are only "two" issues out of many which defines the current estabishment and the International Dictatorship of Capital, whose influence on humanity is generally malevolent, and who seek to enslave humanity in global Capitalist dictatorship.

Frankly many of the anti-NWO crowd are Capitalists and anti-Communists themselves; their objections to the current world we find ourselves in often revolve around "side issues" such as their evangelical homophobia.

On the other hand many Gays and Lesbians are themselves Anarchists, Socialists, Communists and adherents of various forms of anti-Capitalism, while many others are economically conservative, evangelical Capitalists and establishment figures.

To state the obvious, the economic problems of the world are economic; in Europe and the developed nations, social problems have very little to do with sexuality or gender, though certainly in much of the wider world, especially the Third World, the Hindu world and the Islamic world, these are Paternalistic societies and "not" post-feminist societies; women are mostly domestic slaves and sex slaves, and are the private property of males; homophobia is entirely commonplace outside the First World, apart from possibly the Islamic world, where it is openly reviled by religionists, but in reality an underground bisexual (as opposed to homosexual) culture predominates in many nations.

Lux

[meksar]

Meksar, do you know that there are entire cultures who are run solely by women out there? And they are doing just fine. Nothing satanic about it, and as far as I know, the Illuminati are not a part of it.

That is Feminism at its very peak. And probably hell for you :D.

Feminism and homosexuality have nothing to do with what you are trying to present, and quote the contrary, many of those that I know of and fall under this category, are actually against the establishment, against the system, against the elites and political armies.

This so called gay NWO agenda is only inside your mind.

Women can live in a spiritually free way yes, but when you make them militant and brainwashed by anti male propaganda it is a recipe for disaster. I personally do see a lot of male dominated jobs like construction being deliberately destroyed and replaced by machinery and eventually robots. Men are being feminzed to be accepted in this backwards society, the laws are stacked against them to accept things like divorce settlements, child custody and child support as mandotory.

The point is that i have seen in college and the workplace how men and women are told they are equal but when there are physically demanding tasks women are usually told they cannot perform these tasks and men have to do it. Also even when i was in primary school the girls in my class got to take a week off school to do work experience, while the boys had to stay behind at school. Surely they could have let both the boys and girls go on work experience, but when you understand the pyschological implications of feminism it makes perfet sense why they would do such a thing.

You say there is no gay agenda but please come on, do you really expect someone who has researched the matter to be impressed by claims like these. Zionists just love gays, homosexuality represent what Zionists love such as depopulation, sexual confusion and degeneracy. Gays in mainstream Hollywood are obsessed with sex, and sexualise everything Anyone in Hollywood will tell you it's fine for two men or two women to get married and adopt children)If someone wants to be gay, that's fine if it makes them happy, I've just got a problem with people imposing homosexuality on the world and especially children, and the Zionists leads the pack when it comes to that.

[planetj]

Women can live in a spiritually free way yes, but when you make them militant and brainwashed by anti male propaganda it is a recipe for disaster. I personally do see a lot of male dominated jobs like construction being deliberately destroyed and replaced by machinery and eventually robots. Men are being feminzed to be accepted in this backwards society, the laws are stacked against them to accept things like divorce settlements, child custody and child support as mandotory.

The point is that i have seen in college and the workplace how men and women are told they are equal but when there are physically demanding tasks women are usually told they cannot perform these tasks and men have to do it. Also even when i was in primary school the girls in my class got to take a week off school to do work experience, while the boys had to stay behind at school. Surely they could have let both the boys and girls go on work experience, but when you understand the pyschological implications of feminism it makes perfet sense why they would do such a thing.

You say there is no gay agenda but please come on, do you really expect someone who has researched the matter to be impressed by claims like these. Zionists just love gays, homosexuality represent what Zionists love such as depopulation, sexual confusion and degeneracy. Gays in mainstream Hollywood are obsessed with sex, and sexualise everything Anyone in Hollywood will tell you it's fine for two men or two women to get married and adopt children)If someone wants to be gay, that's fine if it makes them happy, I've just got a problem with people imposing homosexuality on the world and especially children, and the Zionists leads the pack when it comes to that.

I agree with you in many respects. Feminism is a tool used by TPTB to assert control over the common man. While I don't deny the fact that past sexism has created the gulf between the two sexes and that certain provisions should have been enacted to grant equality.....something more sinister is going on these days.

Women exibit an enormous amount of power is western countries. Beside being the majority in every western nation; women also control 60 percent of the wealth in Western nations. They also make 80 percent of all purchasing decisions. That equals to massive consumer power. Every institution controlled by TPTB cater to women... the media, the educational system, the political establishment and the religious establishment are all complicent in this. They cater to the needs, wants and desires at the expense of men. The same men who if granted REAL education and REAL economic power, could wield a heavy hand to overcome TPTB controll over society.

These people care nothing about women or what's best for women and men in society. They care only for world domination and feminism is no different than any other "ism" they use to generate that control.

I cannot speak for Western Europe or other parts of the globe, but in America; there has been a massive redistrubution of wealth from men to women in the form of alimony, child support and spousel support. The fact is....... that it does not matter in many cases whether the child is his or not or whether he is at fault for the divorce or whether she makes more money than he does.... money is taken for him and given to her. This makes the man's existence more fallible.

That natural militancy against oppression is broken.... that natural resistence to oppression is broken and TPTB continue there control. The youthful agressiveness and resistance is controlled from the beginning in these public school systems who look at male exuberance as something evil and must be stifled by ritalin and made up disorders like ADD.Thus.... less boys are educated, less boys graduate from schools, less boys are prepared to be men and become an active particapant in many aspects of society (economical and social) and this course of action happens again and again. With braindead......brainwashed men, we have a braindead....brainwashed society, unable to release itself from the strains that bind them to who or what controls this society.

[luciferhorus]

Women exibit an enormous amount of power is western countries. Beside being the majority in every western nation; women also control 60 percent of the wealth in Western nations. They also make 80 percent of all purchasing decisions. That equals to massive consumer power.

Well I find it hard to believe that women control 60% of the wealth in Western nations; perhaps you could cite a source for that; however with regards to having 80% of the purchasing decisions, if that is true it is hardly unsurprising. Walk down any high street or enter any shopping mall in Capitalism and you will see that it is mostly a female market that is catered for.

Shoes, shoes and more shoes. Clothes, clothes and more clothes. Then there is hair, makeup and accessesories; all of which amounts to a multi-billion dollar business which is aimed at making women more attractive, and when it comes to heterosexual women, it is all essentially about making them attractive and desirable to men, despite the fact that heterosexual males are usually not that interested in a woman's clothing, but rather in removing their clothing, as nature intended.

So much for feminism; hundreds of millions of people in the Third World are now economically enslaved in order that Western Capitalist women can go through 100's of pairs of shoes and have an abundance of trinkets and clothing.

Shame.

According to "Genesis" clothes wearing is a sign of "shame" and of "sin (i.e., evil)." That might not be the case in the European winters where the wearing of clothing is certainly for protection from the cold, or for certain professions where protective clothing is necessay, but it is certainly the case for most Europeans in the summer that clothing is unnecessary for part of the year. Certainly it seems to be a "sin" to enslave much of humanity in order for them to export the numerous trinkets that fill the shopping malls of Capitalism while hundreds of millions of people are impoverished and many are close to starvation; much of Capitalist consumerism seems to be complete waste of time at the expense of global slavery and wasted lives.

Lux

[meksar]

Male Lap Dogs And Their Feminist Masters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdYMAHv7Hng&feature=related

[meksar]

I agree with you in many respects. Feminism is a tool used by TPTB to assert control over the common man. While I don't deny the fact that past sexism has created the gulf between the two sexes and that certain provisions should have been enacted to grant equality.....something more sinister is going on these days.

Women exibit an enormous amount of power is western countries. Beside being the majority in every western nation; women also control 60 percent of the wealth in Western nations. They also make 80 percent of all purchasing decisions. That equals to massive consumer power. Every institution controlled by TPTB cater to women... the media, the educational system, the political establishment and the religious establishment are all complicent in this. They cater to the needs, wants and desires at the expense of men. The same men who if granted REAL education and REAL economic power, could wield a heavy hand to overcome TPTB controll over society.

These people care nothing about women or what's best for women and men in society. They care only for world domination and feminism is no different than any other "ism" they use to generate that control.

I cannot speak for Western Europe or other parts of the globe, but in America; there has been a massive redistrubution of wealth from men to women in the form of alimony, child support and spousel support. The fact is....... that it does not matter in many cases whether the child is his or not or whether he is at fault for the divorce or whether she makes more money than he does.... money is taken for him and given to her. This makes the man's existence more fallible.

That natural militancy against oppression is broken.... that natural resistence to oppression is broken and TPTB continue there control. The youthful agressiveness and resistance is controlled from the beginning in these public school systems who look at male exuberance as something evil and must be stifled by ritalin and made up disorders like ADD.Thus.... less boys are educated, less boys graduate from schools, less boys are prepared to be men and become an active particapant in many aspects of society (economical and social) and this course of action happens again and again. With braindead......brainwashed men, we have a braindead....brainwashed society, unable to release itself from the strains that bind them to who or what controls this society.

I have said before what may appear to be a act of benevolence may really be a curse in disguise. When the elite start putting people in different catergories they are doing so to divide us and make us more easily controllable.

When you look at the West women are given equal rights in most cases, but there is a elite club of satanic men and some women running the show. They will allow women rights which are really going to create a more dysfunctional society, this is why they use the media and education brainwashing to make women more subjected to anti family values. They do the same with men except it is highly reported in comparison to cases of women doing so.

[josh17g]

so i am a homosexual so what are you trying to say that you are against me you hate me or something

[lyricusmagna]

Feminism/Homosexuality and Illuminati

Three things from which the latter has nothing to do with the other two.

[meksar]

so i am a homosexual so what are you trying to say that you are against me you hate me or something

I am not saying that i hate or persucute homosexuals but i do believe that the Illuminati are forcing homosexulaity on people, there are others who believe in treating homosexuals in cruel ways and i do not agree with that. If i am going to be 100% honest though when i see homosexuality i am not someone who sees it as normal behaviour and i do not agree with it.

When i put forward information which exposes the various ways and situations the Illuminati use homosexuality to advance its agenda, i am not doing so to attack or offend gay people. There are institutions in society which are being forced to accept homosexuality such as churches for instance, officials in churches are no longer allowed to disapprove of homosexual marriage and ceremonies. I do not go to Church and believe they rip people off both spiritually and financially, but it seems strange these laws are being introduced.

They are preparing to make all 5 year old chilldren have lessons on homosexuality, surely as a homosexual you would agree that letting children have lessons on any sexuality at that age is wrong?.

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My general viewpoint of feminism can be found in post 83 in this thread

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058476161#post1058476161

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When Love Yields to Fear–What is a Jezebel Spirit?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87697