the arrivals

[oracle2008]

i recently watched a series made by some independent filmakers called the arrivals. It describes loads of stuff about the illuminati, their goals, their methods etc etc. I was just wondering if anybody else had watched it and if so what their verdict was.

Me and the friend i watched it with thought the religous views the filmakers tried to push seemed very biased and objectively flawed, but the logical information seemed quite informative and filled me in on things i was unaware of, like the significance of the number 11 to the illminati and how things like 911 were designed as a massive ritual symbolising the fall of the towers of solomons temple and so on. Im learning a lot of new stuff so feedback would be apprecited and perhaps some new directions and sourvces of knowledge for me to chekc out would be greatly appreciated. many thanks, peace and love

oracle2008

[grandsecretary]

The number 11 means a great deal to us all. It follows 10 and it precedes 12. Without the number 11 we would be well and truly stuck.

Only 10 red roses on Valentine's Day - divorces on a massive scale!

The 10 days of Christmas! The kids will go potty.

Only 10 times darling, there is no 11! :eek:

Please be more specific. Why is the number 11 particularly important to "The Illuminati".

[oracle2008]

well in answer to your question, according to many of the fake manipulative religions infiltrated by the illuminati (pretty much all of them) there are 10 dimensions of reality, something that scientists are starting to agree on as well. In religious terms, the 10th dimension, or plane is god, and we as humans are the ninth plane, 11 is above god, which accoridng to religion would be blasphemy because nobody can ever be above the creator, or in my opinion of how things are, we all come from the same spirit of love so in essence we are all god and so can never be more than that, so the number 11 represents the antichrist. Dont quote me 100 percent but im pretty sure thats how they see it.

Also the illuminati build their buildings in such a way that they channel energy, the best shapes to do this are domes, pyramids and octagons. Take a look at many important monuments and buildings and this wil become evident. The building is just a tool, the energy it channels depends on the action taking place. On the surface the 911 event happened as justification for the us to start two illegal wars and further reduce the freedoms of the american people, but under the surface it was supposed to be the channeling of a massive amount of negative energy towards their goals.

It seems too much to be a coincidence also, that the number you call for the police in america is 911. 9+1+1=11. Nobody calls the cops when they are happy, only when they are full of anguish pain and anger.

This is at least some of the stuff i have learnt from my research in to a few different things and it makes sense to me, any alternative views?

[grandsecretary]

well in answer to your question, according to many of the fake manipulative religions infiltrated by the illuminati (pretty much all of them) there are 10 dimensions of reality, something that scientists are starting to agree on as well. In religious terms, the 10th dimension, or plane is god, and we as humans are the ninth plane, 11 is above god, which accoridng to religion would be blasphemy because nobody can ever be above the creator, or in my opinion of how things are, we all come from the same spirit of love so in essence we are all god and so can never be more than that, so the number 11 represents the antichrist. Dont quote me 100 percent but im pretty sure thats how they see it.

Also the illuminati build their buildings in such a way that they channel energy, the best shapes to do this are domes, pyramids and octagons. Take a look at many important monuments and buildings and this wil become evident. The building is just a tool, the energy it channels depends on the action taking place. On the surface the 911 event happened as justification for the us to start two illegal wars and further reduce the freedoms of the american people, but under the surface it was supposed to be the channeling of a massive amount of negative energy towards their goals.

It seems too much to be a coincidence also, that the number you call for the police in america is 911. 9+1+1=11. Nobody calls the cops when they are happy, only when they are full of anguish pain and anger.

This is at least some of the stuff i have learnt from my research in to a few different things and it makes sense to me, any alternative views?

Mumbo jumbo. Go to the movies. See a good film. Try to forget voodoo who do?

11 follows 10. It's useful. That's it.

[kappy0405]

To clarify a little - In Kaballah, there are 10 sephirot. The tenth represents complete enlightenment. So the symbolism of 9-11 is sort of like a 'slap in the face' to spiritual truth.

I'm not sure I buy that completely, but I have seen information that 11 is an important # to satanists for similar reasons - not that I can find it now.. *looking* So it does make a bit of sense.

That said, even without the 9-11 symbolism as described above, I thought Arrivals did a great job explaining how it could've been a mega ritual - and possibly relevant to the kaaba.

[oracle2008]

Mumbo jumbo. Go to the movies. See a good film. Try to forget voodoo who do?

11 follows 10. It's useful. That's it.

well i have to say that comes across as somebody who either has done absolutely no research in to the subject himself and as such has a pretty invalid opinion, or somebody who knows exactly what it is about and chooses to mislead or ignore the facts, if you have nothing constructive to add then perhaps you should withold your comments?

peace

[grandsecretary]

well i have to say that comes across as somebody who either has done absolutely no research in to the subject himself and as such has a pretty invalid opinion, or somebody who knows exactly what it is about and chooses to mislead or ignore the facts, if you have nothing constructive to add then perhaps you should withold your comments?

peace

Oh I have done a lot of research. 10 definitely precedes 11 and 12 follows on. Now I do believe that I asked you a question. Do they owe you 11 dollars?

[el jefe]

Was this on a TV channel? Rent the movie? Actually looks like the entire thing is on youtube, no audio on some though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

[oracle2008]

Oh I have done a lot of research. 10 definitely precedes 11 and 12 follows on. Now I do believe that I asked you a question. Do they owe you 11 dollars?

hilarious, very clever

[oracle2008]

Was this on a TV channel? Rent the movie? Actually looks like the entire thing is on youtube, no audio on some though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

i found it when i was looking for general conspiracy stuff a good while ago, think i downloaded it off of isohunt.com or somewhere similar

[zmanforever]

The number 11 means a great deal to us all. It follows 10 and it precedes 12. Without the number 11 we would be well and truly stuck.

Only 10 red roses on Valentine's Day - divorces on a massive scale!

The 10 days of Christmas! The kids will go potty.

Only 10 times darling, there is no 11! :eek:

Please be more specific. Why is the number 11 particularly important to "The Illuminati".

i know that some time has passed since someone last posted in here, but someone should help this poor sheeple.

10 = Omega: God
11 = 1 up above God = mason's

September 11, 2001 a Satanic Ritual.
9/11 = 9+1+1 = 11 1 above God.

You claim this is "voodo"

Unfortunate for you showing how much you have your senses shut down. Do more research don't try and bring ignorance into fact. Learn the truth spend real time and then comment.

[stevepenny]

Hoax: The Number 11 and its Significance for the Illuminati
- by Unknown

[This article has been circulating on the Internet for quite a while. At the first glance, it may look pretty interesting, but after a little research it is obvious that parts of it is a hoax. Sure enough, the number 11 is a significant number for the Illuminati, and is indeed present during the terror attacks, but there is still misinformation in this article. I will show you where... My comments are in brackets. Wes Penre.]


1) New York City has 11 letters. [Correct]

2) Afghanistan has 11 letters. [Correct]

3) Ramsin Yuseb (The terrorist who threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993) has 11 letters. [ False! Ramsin Yuseb didn't do the 9/11 attack. Besides, in 4) below, Bush's middle initial is used, which is not the case with Yuseb. This is inconsistency which changes the outcome.]

4) George W Bush has 11 letters. [Correct]


This could be a mere coincidence, but this gets more interesting:

1) New York is the 11th state. [Correct]

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers was flight number 11. [Correct]

3) Flight 11 was carrying 92 passengers. 9 + 2 = 11 [Correct: http://www.recordonline.com/adis/62/stories/timeline.htm]

4) Flight 77 which also hit Twin Towers, was carrying 65 passengers. 6+5 = 11 [Correct: http://www.crystalinks.com/99.html]

5) The tragedy was on September 11, or 9/11 as it is now known. 9 + 1+ 1 = 11 [Correct]

6) The date is equal to the US emergency services telephone number 911. 9 + 1 + 1 = 11. [Correct]


Sheer coincidence..?! Read on and make up your own mind:

1) The total number of victims inside all the hi-jacked planes was 254. 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. [A visitor helped me with this one by referring me to http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/main.html. According to my calculations the casualties were 257, not 254. So I would suggest it is false. ]

2) September 11 is day number 254 of the calendar year. Again 2 + 5 + 4 = 11. [Correct]

3) The Madrid bombing took place on 3/11/2004. 3 + 1 + 1 + 2 + 4 = 11. [Correct: http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1903.cfm]

4) The tragedy of Madrid happened 911 days after the Twin Towers incident. [Correct]


Now this is where things get totally eerie:

The most recognised symbol for the US, after the Stars & Stripes, is the Eagle. The following verse is taken from the Quran, the Islamic holy book:

"For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced: for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah and there was peace."

That verse is number 9.11 of the Quran. [ False: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_quran_911.htm]

Still unconvinced about all of this..?! Try this and see how you feel afterwards, it made my hair stand on end:

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:

1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers. [False: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blwingdings2.htm]

2. Highlight the Q33 NY.

3. Change the font size to 48.

4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS [This is what will show up:

Q33 NY. It would all be very interesting if it was related to the real flight that hit the Twin Tower. Showing in the WINGDINGS font above is the airplane hitting a tower, then the skull and crossbones, which means either "death" or that the "Order of Skull and Bones" is behind the attack. Last is the Star of David, which indicates that the attackers are Jewish or Zionists, pointing directly towards the Illuminati. However, due to that there was no Flight Q33 NY, the symbolism is useless.

Still, if we read this whole article again, with the false statements in mind, it is still interesting how often the number 11 appears.]

[grandsecretary]

Except that the most important development in modern history, the computer, uses 0 and 1.

I should know, I have 11 of them! :p

[zetetic0void]

Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.

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Where did you get that information? I can't find that anywhere and that is the key bit that makes or breaks that claim about the wingdings font symbolism.

[stevepenny]

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Where did you get that information? I can't find that anywhere and that is the key bit that makes or breaks that claim about the wingdings font symbolism.

The post does say "1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers. [False: http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blwingdings2.htm]

The original info came from http://www.illuminati-news.com/11.htm