ALIENS are FALLEN ANGELS.

[rwederfoort]

What else is there to say, these Fallen ANGELS, have craeted all these Identeties to keep Humanity BUSY,

But my question to them is HOW LONG do you think the BALL can keep ROLLING in your side of the COURT,


ALL ISSUES are related , and planned by these FALEN ANGELS.

ANY Issue you bring up, is THEM, even as I AM typing they KNOW, That their TIME is NEAR,

namaste

[codie]

I don't understand. How do you identify one?:)

[curtaincat]

I don't understand. How do you identify one?:)

hey, they are the watchers !

and with that thought, i am out of here.

read and learn, my friend, read and learn..

If you don't already know about them, lol. just keep on truckin'



The Watchers ...........

:D

( invasion of the body snatchers .. is a movie that could be true-ish...)

don't be afraid.

[rwederfoort]

HEllo thanks for telling me they are the WATHERS, but I always knew, that, but I always do my HOME work before putting things on any FORUMS,

I know Watchers, some of them were saying they were my friends, sinds I understood that we all are Angels, and they were the First Group, and we are the second GROUP which is called HUMANITY.

YES i have worked all my LIFE for them, and they have tried to HIDE their TRACKS, but it was INVANE.

I Feel Like an ANGEL which is in ENEMY TErritory, trying to understand their Plans, and ways.


The Angelic Orders of the First Choir are:
The Supernals, the Celestials and the Illuminations

The angels of the first Choir are:
The Seraphim, the Cherubim and the Thrones.

The Third Choir
ANGELS OF THE COSMOS:
Govern All The Cosmos:
The third Choir Angelic Orders (the Dominions, Virtues and the Powers) concern themselves with the governing of a specific planet, as well as those angels assigned tasks below them. These angels flow in an intensity of power. They also carry out the orders they get from the Angels of the above Choirs. Third Choir angels deal with the cosmos and its interconnectedness.

The Fourth Choir
ANGELS OF THE WORLD:
Govern All The World:
The Fourth Choir Angels find themselves intricately involved in human affairs and are considered the Angels of the Earth and the friends of man. They constantly weave in and out of our lives, listening closely to human affairs. The Fourth Choir Angels include the Principalities, the Archangels, and those simply called the Angels."
These three Angelic Orders are charged with relations with mankind, and thus the "least Divine" of all the Angelic Orders. From Divine Diplomats to Heavenly Socialites.
The Fourth Choir Orders are the developers of politics and the arbiters of taste, bringing the discipline of abstract structures to the corporeal realm.

Namaste

[rwederfoort]

I have a BETTER name for the FALLEN WATCHERS the FALLEN TOUCHERS,
They thouch things that is not theirs, and watche things which are PRIVATE between us Humans.

:):D

Namste

[turquoisefire777]

I have a BETTER name for the FALLEN WATCHERS the FALLEN TOUCHERS,
They thouch things that is not theirs, and watche things which are PRIVATE between us Humans.

:):D

Namste

but most people don't realise that...

[rwederfoort]

Hey Thank you. I LIVE in the BRONX, here I see all these HYBRIDS, I see Fallen Angels (Wathers), doing their THINGS.

My Whole way off seeing this WORLD has changed, because they are all around us, and they have adventages on us HUMANS.

I try to keep my mind CLEAN, and dont express FEAR for them, and they know me as I know them to. YOU can see in their EYES, as they star at you,

In The ISland where I was BORN, they dont care, because the Island is SMALL, so it was easy for me to adjust when I came to Newyork,

Each of us , which are in the LIGHT have our Protection, SO I am scared of non of them.

I have a friend he is fallen ANGEL he even told me that, I told him I dont care who you are, but just SHOW respect for my feelings what I am.

Namaste

[let it shine]

i'd just like to point out that angels can't fall as they don't have the free will to do anything that would warrant getting kicked out of heaven. all they can do is serve God. that's it.

so if the devil was an angel, how did he fall? this is cleared up in islam where the devil is a creature called a 'jinn'. (we call them 'genies' here in the west. and if you were wondering, jinn are made of smokeless fire, angels are made of light, and men are made of clay...) only men and jinn have free will, according to islam. angels do not.

also, as a test from God, jinn have a lot of powers that humans don't have. shapeshifting is one of their powers and they can even appear in human form. a lot of muslims believe that 'aliens' and 'ghosts' are actually jinn trying to trick mankind out of rememberence of God. it's also interesting to note that not all jinn are evil as some of them choose to worship their Creator.

just thought i'd add another viewpoint, peace.

[rwederfoort]

i'd just like to point out that angels can't fall as they don't have the free will to do anything that would warrant getting kicked out of heaven. all they can do is serve God. that's it.

so if the devil was an angel, how did he fall? this is cleared up in islam where the devil is a creature called a 'jinn'. (we call them 'genies' here in the west. and if you were wondering, jinn are made of smokeless fire, angels are made of light, and men are made of clay...) only men and jinn have free will, according to islam. angels do not.

also, as a test from God, jinn have a lot of powers that humans don't have. shapeshifting is one of their powers and they can even appear in human form. a lot of muslims believe that 'aliens' and 'ghosts' are actually jinn trying to trick mankind out of rememberence of God. it's also interesting to note that not all jinn are evil as some of them choose to worship their Creator.

just thought i'd add another viewpoint, peace.

a. About Angels I have read so many things about ANGELOGOGY its very complex in deed all these LEVELS, and all these RULES, and Groups.
One thing I did noticed that in each Group a couple Fall from the GRACE of GOD,

I try to understand why it happen, the FREE-WILL is the given part of the pArameter of LIFE i think. You dont like ot have ROBOTS i think, so you give FREE will, Look at those HYBRIDS no Soul they are like a ROBOT.

About the JIN, well there are many Species of BEINGs out in teh UNIVERSE, so i can not tell you much about them.

What i can tell you all Most Angels can manifests and become what they want, so thats whats happeing in this world,

YOU have see it like this every ONE of us are ANGELS children of GOD,
thet ANGELS were the First , (Adapted Children) That father decided to create Humanity, which are FLESH SOUL and SPIRIT.

See THE ANGELS on EARTH are the ones which are manifesting in ALIENS , all those UFO, all those UNKNOWN things,

I still am knew in this FIELD triying to Understand, I hope I get there,
Its very interesting to do what those Angels can do.

Namaste

[let it shine]

wow.

[deafbred]

the other day i had a dream in the early morning that was so vividly surreal

in my dream i had a camera and was trying to photograph alien space craft that were in the air in my back yard. at one point one was close enough and i tried to get it to see me and communicate with it. i hoped over a fence into the neighbors backyard feild where their horses graze. as soon as my feet hit planted on the ground, a light from the space craft shown on me. i looked up and an alien green dude started to decend from the ship light. he stood infront of me and out of no where it seems there were more aliens that started wanted to encircle me, but i turned around and kept my eye on them. one seemed to be mischivous and evil. the first one that decended from the light seemed nice and empathetic and i could tell would be willing to help me if i communicated.

in this dream at that point of the whole alien interaction and jumping over the fence, there was a great sort of fear but i kept it in check and was able to go about the dream aware and in control. while everyone was running and my whole family where hiding, i was out trying to confront and obtain sight or contact with the alien presence in the sky.

i never in my whole life had an alien dream. when i woke up, it felt like there was a presence in the room. like entities. i looked over my shoulder and in a i guess was a half awake half asleep state, (though i was awake and moving in my bed to look over to the other side of the room..) i visualized my dream right infront of my eyes and a camera that i filmed the experience with in my dream manifested before me and i got to watch again the dream that i filmed on the camcorder of the aliens when i was in my dream.

i was awake though, at this point but still .. experiencing the dream as though i were asleep and reliving it. sept i was replaying the digital camerea video of the aliens. sooo weird, like it was real right there in front of me but i was totally concious that i was awake. it was sort of like that feeling you get, when your awake during the day and you get hints or clues (inclination) to a relived part of a dream you had while you were sleeping at night.

and their voices (the alens) were like as i described to a friend who i told of the dream, were like, that charachter from the Lord of the Rings movie who is animated and skitzofrenic who says "Precious, precious, my precious"

http://thm-a03.yimg.com/image/c452bdc780a754e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4Ntcq5uNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4Ntcq5uNg
-ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4Ntcq5uNg

but sort of lower, and more mumbled and ..almost demonic but may or may not be really. prolly just the way they communicate..

anyways, i got this wheel im building in my room to fly to the moon. antigravity machine. perpetual motion. i think the aliens could be wanting to help me? ????? im not sure what those entities are or what...

if they are evil and its all demonic i could care less. cause i have power over these spirits by god lord jesus christ

i command them to leave, they leave. i did, when i looked over my room after i woke up and it felt like entities were in my presence. its difficult though, you can't let your fear get the best of you. or else, your powerless and can't act or even talk/speak a word- like a cat gotz your tongue. when i was in the dream,, though it was fearful, i approached and went up to the space craft by jumping over the fence and trying to get in their face as it were. and it succeeded cause they floated down from the craft when i sought them out.

i don't know, i just wanted to post this cause the topic is timley and i had a dream. maybe you individuals know things i don't. maybe you find this interesting.

but here is a video of that morning. it was raining around 5am and i turned on the light cause i was sort of scared a little in the dark, and filmed a little, and spun my orbit magnet wheel...

here it is

Sunday, September 27, 2009, 5:41:24 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OgJNaENLiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OgJNaENLiw
-ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OgJNaENLiw

oh an.. i think humans are angels, yes, i think fallen because.. as a child.. i was connected to god, but when i grew up, the world motivated me to "abandon the love i had at first" , and, i became fallen, detached from original core truth of who i was and am. so ensue- sin, guilt, fear, expect punishment, not perfected, stained, love brused. :\ the water drips, i wait for forgivness. im not perfect. im dying. i would have lived forever. the clouds roll through, waiting for eternal sunny day. love, a bridge. secure.

[rwederfoort]

Nice story,

But what can I see to you, I will try to my best to explain what I mean,
We all know what we are, and what we have done. And also some of us, never take control of our own destiny.

I have read so many things, but yo have to put all of them in LIne very simple, I try to FOcus, on the following RULES.

- I am with PRIME creator, King OF SOULS, YHWH and the Universe, and we are ONE, share Uncondional LOVE with the Whole.
- I Exist can not change that.
- But I can Learn and Change my ways, and be anything I want.
(Free - WILL)
- We are Angels, (Each Group for has its Purpose to maintain our Creation in Balance, Each of us, with our Abilities or Gifts.
- THE UNIVERSE is a HOLOGRAM, a MATRIX, so it can be Molded and change, to any way.
- And there is WAR going on between FALLEN ANGELS, and GOOD Angels,
- And there are some Name of Angels which (LUCIFER, SATAN, others),
are the main couse of this situation,
- There will be a JUDGEMENT DAY also coming soon.
- ALSO Ascencion Day, for the Good Angels.

So I try to keep some of this POINTS in my mind, so I wont fall of the Oathe of the LIGHT, because every where you GO they will try to GET you.

They will use all thier TRAPS to Controle you, as they have already done, to a loth off those good Angels, which have fallen for the FALSE LIGHT.

SO we must think as going to war, and fighting for a GOOD COuse

Namaste

[deafbred]

Yeh i definitley think we are going to war soon. i think the bad angels are in control now and soon we, the good angels , will awaken more, and things will peak in time where there will be a battle. i think it happens everytime or something through out the ages. but bad has always been winning and subverting us all and trapping us in a box where they have the keys for now. im not worried to much about these small wars and try not to get to bothered by them but sometimes the worldly me gets overwhelmed and i sort of lose myself in the pressure of it all. but i am preparing for sure. we are all going to be tested. and this final battle will be the greatest of them all. im not sure exactly what is going to happen just yet but i know the bad angels are there at the finish line already right now, waiting for us. and they think they have it all taken care of. but i see we good angels winning in the end. i think i was put here for a reason and i am trying to carry out my own destiny as best i can. i think we have worldly lives and free will to an extent but at the same time i think there is a purpose for each of us that we must align ourselves to complete that storyboard sort of predestine.

every time i try to change things and do what i want to do and think of things in a worldly way, my life goes awry and complicated and i suffer because of it. its like, no matter what i want, or desire.. it is not meant to be. life sort of puts us on a course that seems cannot be changed. jesus didn't want to die on the cross, but he did. for his father in heaven, the creator. i think we are all special and molded to fit in this world for a specific point and purpose. you can make your own choices to an extent in this world, but if you mess with, to much the road of life that has been drawn, you only suffer because of it, because you arn't being who you truly are and meant to become and sustain when living this cartoon life, holigram yeah.

everything is so funny/weird, it really is almost an illusion and holigram. nothing is solid, its all small bits and peices of atoms/particles floating in the fabric of spacetime working out a balance.

things in my life have been to errie to where you know and observe and realize.. the creator has a plan for you. what he wants you to see, experience, to get you through to the end completion of your test to refine you in this world. i don't think of myself as only special, but every single person on earth. im not sure about people being bad or born bad but i know the devil spirit uses people to wreck the purpose of god. like schools and indoctrination camps and colleges and all forms/types of institutions like acorn or whatever else it is. all seem to be a form of small governments that wreck the flow of natural growth in the world.

manipulate/calculate. wolves amoungst us. i wish to defeat them, but at the same time it pains me. because when we win, this story board time line will be brought to conclusion and it makes me sad to think of where the bad angels will end up. but at the same time i am at peace with it knowing justice will be served and people will get what they deserve. doesn't mean it doesn't pain me to think what will hapen to them. to much empathy on my part, but that is love. i guess some people are not written in the book of life, from the begining? i guess there has always been a war here on the ground since the first of time. right now its on the down low, even though its being waged and what not, people are mostly unaware of what exactly is taking place. the main war the main battle the point of it all is what i want to see and bring to an end. so frivilous battles and wars continue not to interfear and wreck the future which never is brought to peace and eternal life and love here on the ground.

i don't want to throw my life away in some meatgrinder mixup of nothingness.

can't be stupid about this. there have been many antichrists in the past. the spirit of error. this last one will be the worst of them all. learning from hitlers mistakes etc. to hone his own game and impression/footprint on this world. it is not my duty to mess up my opportunity to make the best of this life im given. there is something going on, on the ground here that is very profound and real and ... not right. it must be defeated and cast out. so no more generations apon generations have to suffer needlessly as time goes on to chew at humanity. people say 'end times' that people who think that are silly. but i don't think im silly to want to see an end to the madness. that just means madness can't continue. and whats so bad about that? its only bad if thats the basket you got your eggs in, and they don't want their eggs to get cracked. so they crack your own to damage your goods with all kinds of curses of /in your name. i know the spirit. the scoffdom, the ridicule, the onward arrogant laugh. the shallow unreasonable uncaring carcus of their creation. soon it will be brought out to the surface where all things will be exposed and no longer hidden. it already is happening, and they are preparing for that day when we see. may we be ready to stand in that day. prepared. sheild/sword of god. spirit of truth. empowered by the light. ready to defend. cause they are going to put on such a temper tantrum, wanting to spill more blood. they always did. wolves in sheeps clothes. they be naked soon. in more ways than they can see now. they think they are covered. but god knows their heart and actions and inner deeds. the development of the photograph of truth is bout to be exposed fully by the light. i am not afraid. today, today, no more delay. hurray. the day. gods day, not my own. i serve, in fear, not of the enemy, but god the creator of all things. can you imagine what it is like to see an angel from the air? fearfull for sure. make your hair stand on end. but in the book angel says no not fear. fear god and give glory to the creator. the one who can destroy soul and cast body to hell fire pit. of which there is no quenching.

i hope im not to late, lord knows i been to early. these days, things are going to be 'just in time' "Saved By The Bell" synchronistic synchronicity - oh how we've been pained. cried. all for a reason though. these tribulations and sorrows and sores. all to bring us to glory. how else could we see and understand.. there is a plan.

[amethyst]

Rwederfoort, what do think of this post?:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058297597&postcount=66

[rwederfoort]

Yeh i definitley think we are going to war soon. i think the bad angels are in control now and soon we, the good angels , will awaken more, and things will peak in time where there will be a battle. i think it happens everytime or something through out the ages. but bad has always been winning and subverting us all and trapping us in a box where they have the keys for now. im not worried to much about these small wars and try not to get to bothered by them but sometimes the worldly me gets overwhelmed and i sort of lose myself in the pressure of it all. but i am preparing for sure. we are all going to be tested. and this final battle will be the greatest of them all. im not sure exactly what is going to happen just yet but i know the bad angels are there at the finish line already right now, waiting for us. and they think they have it all taken care of. but i see we good angels winning in the end. i think i was put here for a reason and i am trying to carry out my own destiny as best i can. i think we have worldly lives and free will to an extent but at the same time i think there is a purpose for each of us that we must align ourselves to complete that storyboard sort of predestine.

every time i try to change things and do what i want to do and think of things in a worldly way, my life goes awry and complicated and i suffer because of it. its like, no matter what i want, or desire.. it is not meant to be. life sort of puts us on a course that seems cannot be changed. jesus didn't want to die on the cross, but he did. for his father in heaven, the creator. i think we are all special and molded to fit in this world for a specific point and purpose. you can make your own choices to an extent in this world, but if you mess with, to much the road of life that has been drawn, you only suffer because of it, because you arn't being who you truly are and meant to become and sustain when living this cartoon life, holigram yeah.

everything is so funny/weird, it really is almost an illusion and holigram. nothing is solid, its all small bits and peices of atoms/particles floating in the fabric of spacetime working out a balance.

things in my life have been to errie to where you know and observe and realize.. the creator has a plan for you. what he wants you to see, experience, to get you through to the end completion of your test to refine you in this world. i don't think of myself as only special, but every single person on earth. im not sure about people being bad or born bad but i know the devil spirit uses people to wreck the purpose of god. like schools and indoctrination camps and colleges and all forms/types of institutions like acorn or whatever else it is. all seem to be a form of small governments that wreck the flow of natural growth in the world.

manipulate/calculate. wolves amoungst us. i wish to defeat them, but at the same time it pains me. because when we win, this story board time line will be brought to conclusion and it makes me sad to think of where the bad angels will end up. but at the same time i am at peace with it knowing justice will be served and people will get what they deserve. doesn't mean it doesn't pain me to think what will hapen to them. to much empathy on my part, but that is love. i guess some people are not written in the book of life, from the begining? i guess there has always been a war here on the ground since the first of time. right now its on the down low, even though its being waged and what not, people are mostly unaware of what exactly is taking place. the main war the main battle the point of it all is what i want to see and bring to an end. so frivilous battles and wars continue not to interfear and wreck the future which never is brought to peace and eternal life and love here on the ground.

i don't want to throw my life away in some meatgrinder mixup of nothingness.

can't be stupid about this. there have been many antichrists in the past. the spirit of error. this last one will be the worst of them all. learning from hitlers mistakes etc. to hone his own game and impression/footprint on this world. it is not my duty to mess up my opportunity to make the best of this life im given. there is something going on, on the ground here that is very profound and real and ... not right. it must be defeated and cast out. so no more generations apon generations have to suffer needlessly as time goes on to chew at humanity. people say 'end times' that people who think that are silly. but i don't think im silly to want to see an end to the madness. that just means madness can't continue. and whats so bad about that? its only bad if thats the basket you got your eggs in, and they don't want their eggs to get cracked. so they crack your own to damage your goods with all kinds of curses of /in your name. i know the spirit. the scoffdom, the ridicule, the onward arrogant laugh. the shallow unreasonable uncaring carcus of their creation. soon it will be brought out to the surface where all things will be exposed and no longer hidden. it already is happening, and they are preparing for that day when we see. may we be ready to stand in that day. prepared. sheild/sword of god. spirit of truth. empowered by the light. ready to defend. cause they are going to put on such a temper tantrum, wanting to spill more blood. they always did. wolves in sheeps clothes. they be naked soon. in more ways than they can see now. they think they are covered. but god knows their heart and actions and inner deeds. the development of the photograph of truth is bout to be exposed fully by the light. i am not afraid. today, today, no more delay. hurray. the day. gods day, not my own. i serve, in fear, not of the enemy, but god the creator of all things. can you imagine what it is like to see an angel from the air? fearfull for sure. make your hair stand on end. but in the book angel says no not fear. fear god and give glory to the creator. the one who can destroy soul and cast body to hell fire pit. of which there is no quenching.

i hope im not to late, lord knows i been to early. these days, things are going to be 'just in time' "Saved By The Bell" synchronistic synchronicity - oh how we've been pained. cried. all for a reason though. these tribulations and sorrows and sores. all to bring us to glory. how else could we see and understand.. there is a plan.



Hey this is NICE exactly as I FELT, Thanks for sharing your Feelings.

NAMASTE

[rwederfoort]

Rwederfoort, what do think of this post?:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058297597&postcount=66

YES Thank you I did Read , And it refreshed the INFO I had already


http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/
I was reading Yesterday ANGELS in the FLESH. She is GOOD in ger STUFF.

Thank you very Much.

Namaste

[rwederfoort]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2UoD-FwpPk

[deafbred]

amethyst, thanks for link- +++

rwederfoort- that site http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/ looks like alot of stuff interesting to read and listen to, thank you

__________________________________________________ __________
i don't know where to start, i dont' know where to begin or where it ends.

i posted some where on the davidick icke forum about one day i was looking at the tv and president bush almost seemed to ... shift from human to alien. it was at a time when i was first reading about 'reptilians' being world leaders. at the same time, consciousness was very high and on an alert state of world universal knowing. the frequencies wavelengths were amplituded to a clearer vision and hearing. it seems at these peak points of awarness that a struggle is brought to the forefrought that is/was previously swept under the rug of knowing through frivilous entertainment trappings and meaningless hollow statment sustainments of all things folly. inevitable delayed..

also, the words we humans use to express ourselves are interwoven in a mix up symbology makeup of subverted misunderstood meanings and blinders that temporerily we sift to conclude knowledge of what is exactly taking place and what is going on here on the ground and our lives, of past present, and hopfully our unbinded future.

i had a dream to about a year or two ago, maybe more, where i had it once or twice.. that i was in an underground base of some sort with multiple levels and elevators and personel working in an office like environment. i hid myself as best i could and was able to walk around and explore. i didn't want to alarms to go off. anyways, i wondered/walked down to a sub level basement, that had a room off to the side. i went in and it was an exhibit of religion. they had a figurene of jesus there and it was all set up for learning. the place was opening and people walked through the door to give their tickets to the doorman. i walked out and looked for a way out of the base. there were flying plane like craft down there to. i went to the elevator and went up. people were alerted to my presence and i went on to escape. i did.

another dream i had recently was i was walking through a town. i went to this persons house and into their backyard garage. the person that owned the house wanted to put me to work cleaning his shelves. i proceeded but at one point things went awry. there were stormtroppers of some type invading the town. so i walked down the street to get away. i found a lake and eventually made myself down to discover on the hillside down below, an underground facility base that was relativley small and had 2 people inside. one person was looking at a screen. on the screen was an image of the town. and it seemed he was directing or controlling what was happening on the surface to his soldiers or something. very weird. very alert type dream. i continued out and back up the road to the town.

that being said.. i tried searching for that Bush reptilian tv post i made in the past and stumbled across another posting on another thread about reptilians but revealed something else that i didn't understand before but now makes more sense. someone posted but i didn't get what he or she was saying. i just reread it now and it goes on to talk about military underground bases and reptilian alien information.

down at the bottom a posting by solarwindspirit

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74244&highlight=deafbred+bush&page=7

i didn't get what he or she was pointing at but now i see it more clearly. what solar was trying to tell me. pointing to the alien spirit and more understanding of whats going on...

there were some links in there

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground25.htm
-ttp://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_underground25.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0
-ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDAE_9v4h0

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/offlimits/esp_offlimits_7.htm
-http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/offlimits/esp_offlimits_7.htm

http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz34/deafbred/dumbs.jpg
http://i811.photobucket.com/albums/zz34/deafbred/thetruealien.jpg

Strongholds of the Devil, Deep underground Military Bases

Jer 48:41 "the cities shall be taken and the strongholds seized. The heart of the warriors of Moab shall be in that day like the heart of a woman in her birth pains;

Jer 51:30 "The warriors of Babylon have ceased fighting; they remain in their strongholds; their strength has failed; they have become women; her dwellings are on fire; her bars are broken.

Lam 2:2 The Lord has swallowed up without mercy all the habitations of Jacob; in his wrath he has broken down the strongholds of the daughter of Judah; he has brought down to the ground in dishonor the kingdom and its rulers.

Amo 2:2 "So I will send a fire upon Moab, and it shall devour the strongholds of Kerioth, and Moab shall die amid uproar, amid shouting and the sound of the trumpet;

Amo 3:10 "They do not know how to do right," declares the Lord , "those who store up violence and robbery in their strongholds."

Mic 5:11 and I will cut off the cities of your land and throw down all your strongholds;

Mic 7:17 they shall lick the dust like a serpent, like the crawling things of the earth; they shall come trembling out of their strongholds; they shall turn in dread to the Lord our God, and they shall be in fear of you.

2Cr 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds.

God destroys strongholds. Satan dwells in a stronghold. His throne.

Rev 2:13 "'I know where you dwell, where Satan's throne is. Yet you hold fast my name, and you did not deny my faith even in the days of Antipas my faithful witness, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

...

Rev 6:16 calling to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who is seated on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb,
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i don't know what to say. shall we fear.. only the lord god creator and in whom judgment is held, we should fear. faith in god, not weapons of war, but stand in the truth. so we can stand in that day unashamed.

[wyndham]

YES Thank you I did Read , And it refreshed the INFO I had already


http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/
I was reading Yesterday ANGELS in the FLESH. She is GOOD in ger STUFF.

Thank you very Much.

Namaste


It really seems as if the alien entity / angels do not want us to recognize their possibility or presence...

[eustacekidd]

How long have angels been part of christian mythology?

[zsymon]

As far as I know, beings elevated over others, such as angels, archangels
or ascended masters, simply do not exist. All Light beings, this includes
Jesus Christ, are completely equal. All Light souls have roughly the same age,
because they were created around the same time during Creation.

All Light beings have the same knowledge and wisdom, the same power
and talent and potential. The only difference between Light souls, is the
type of Healing Gifts they have developed, and the memories they have
aqcuired through experience and incarnations, simply through existing.

Another difference is the task we have been given when we incarnated.
You or me had the same ability to play the role of Jesus Christ, this soul
is no different than you or me, but he had the task to let Light flow
through him freely and unhindered, and therefor this chance to bring Light
to Earth and wisdom and knowledge through actions and words, was
given to him, but it could have been given to any Light soul, we are all
equal.

There is a constant struggle between the Light, that restores the flow
of Light, and the non light, that tries to block the flow of Light, and to
create harm where it can. However, there is no war or fighting going
on between two armies.. the Light never uses violence, anger or any
kind of negativity when it deals with the non light. It only uses unconditional
love, compassion and forgiveness energies, to maintain the flow of Light
around them or the place they are restoring to Light.

The Light does not wage war.. the Light only loves and restores to Light
and to wholeness. There are Light Healers on Earth, many of them have
awakened, and they heal the wounds of both the Light and the non light.
Even Zeus, one of the leaders of the non light on Earth, has come to my
mentor for healing, and she has given it to him, she has restored his
wounds and released his blockages. The Light holds no grudge, it does
not hate, it does not get angry or impatient, it only heals and restores,
it only loves, forgives and shows compassion. Through the energy of pure
unconditional love we defend ourselves from the non light, because when
that energy is around us, or around a space, they cannot come there
and they cannot cause harm.

[godgoo]

What else is there to say, these Fallen ANGELS, have craeted all these Identeties to keep Humanity BUSY,

But my question to them is HOW LONG do you think the BALL can keep ROLLING in your side of the COURT,


ALL ISSUES are related , and planned by these FALEN ANGELS.

ANY Issue you bring up, is THEM, even as I AM typing they KNOW, That their TIME is NEAR,

namaste

Your another whom imagines a snow ball time reality?

[01cobravortech]

Jesus said it would be just like it was in the days of Noah, PRIOR to His return. And int he days of Noah, the Nephilim (offspring of demonic angels + earth women) roamed the land.

[wildheartx]

But by saying all aliens are fallen angels you are making a sweeping generalisation? I do think there is some validity in what you're saying though. What does it make many humans who behave in often terrible ways, aren't we just as fallen? There's always a choice you can make and it doesn't matter where you're from and what you are and no one is going to behave purely good or purely evil. It's just one big parameter and you're either towards one side or the other.

Light does use compassion and does love but it is not passive.

[01cobravortech]

But by saying all aliens are fallen angels you are making a sweeping generalisation? I do think there is some validity in what you're saying though. What does it make many humans who behave in often terrible ways, aren't we just as fallen? There's always a choice you can make and it doesn't matter where you're from and what you are and no one is going to behave purely good or purely evil. It's just one big parameter and you're either towards one side or the other.

Light does use compassion and does love but it is not passive.

I call it like I see it. People that have no faith, are easy pawns for satan because they go only by sight. So they'll see one of these phony "ETs" and believe their claims because seeing is believing right? The Nephilim hoax was used by satan before and the people today are excited at the prospect of "visitation" from another planet. Well the father of deception will provide people what they want. I see right through this nonsense since the Lord has given us ample warning about this in the Bible.

[wildheartx]

I call it like I see it. People that have no faith, are easy pawns for satan because they go only by sight. So they'll see one of these phony "ETs" and believe their claims because seeing is believing right? The Nephilim hoax was used by satan before and the people today are excited at the prospect of "visitation" from another planet. Well the father of deception will provide people what they want. I see right through this nonsense since the Lord has given us ample warning about this in the Bible.

Absolutely agreed there if you don't have faith and believe you are an easy target. That's why everything related to afterlife, paranormal, god is dismissed by the media, it's all programming. Stop people thinking and put their attention elsewhere like who's gonna win X Factor or whatever and most importantly stop them from realising how remarkable they are and how they are connected to the universe. I think most are probably equally excited and nervous about being visited by aliens from another planet but being as they're here anyway they're not going to believe you if you tell them regardless(unless you're aware/crazy). I do however believe that not all of them are negative in their intentions and also many are as deceived as many human beings. I read the bible regularly however i don't base my entire existence around it. what i experience is as equally important to me. It is a fine guide though and more people should own one.

[godgoo]

My interpretation of falling angels. Firstly the angels are us, and we do have wings, lungs. This is where the wings came from. Secondly we are falling, being sucked into the vacuum, entropy is the excess of our descent.

And entropy is increasing.

Angels Wings :)

http://www.jhu.edu/haneslab/Research/Therapeutic_Aerosols/Lung.jpg

The Wing but not as you know it :)

[godgoo]

Why? do ET's have to be fallen angels to satisfy this.

Fallen angels could be those who have gone, our ancestors are the fallen. They would be angels as we.

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/126180/1/L$27etude-Et-Le-G$E3$A9nie-D$E3$A9voilent-L$27antique-Egypte-$E3$A0-La-Gr$E3$A8ce-$28study-And-Genius-Reveals-Ancient-Egypt-And-Greece$29.jpg

We see paintings like this we automatically think ET.

Well try this out, not ET but ancestors. Touching fingers with our ancestors, whom are fallen angels, they have gone. Fallen into oblivion.

We have no idea what has changed, trough the course of time, alls we know is that humans can cross a huge void of time and still remain connected to the past. This is why I think we are not touching fingers with ET, in these depictions, but touching fingers with the ancestors. Who would actually be well above this time dimesnion that we exist in now.

How do we cross this dimension, what is it that we do, to cross that void. Not easy. Do we simply put matter infront of us? Is it like lining up bottles up on a wall. No, up/ No down respectively. No, left or right. An atom knows no direction. It is only the other atoms existance that make the other relative. So it's straight down into a vacuum.

This could answer why you couldn't actually leave a galaxy. The meagnetic field may not let you leave, so what does that tell us? You can't escape.

[godgoo]

So if all this is falling, then maybe the matrix is real. In the context of the 0's and 1's trikkling down, down, down. But not the actual machines. You get what I mean?
Trikkling down into a more complex system, hence entropy, Evolution. Like diffusion really within cells, the shorter the diffusion pathway the faster it is, and ultimately the denser more complex it gets.

And we are going to be able to replicate this, hence CERN. Alls we need todo is get infront somehow of our current position. Then it'll be like playing tennis.

[godgoo]

So if all this is falling, then maybe the matrix is real. In the context of the 0's and 1's trikkling down, down, down. But not the actual machines. You get what I mean?
Trikkling down into a more complex system, hence entropy, Evolution. Like diffusion really within cells, the shorter the diffusion pathway the faster it is, and ultimately the denser more complex it gets.

And we are going to be able to replicate this, hence CERN. Alls we need todo is get infront somehow of our current position. Then it'll be like playing tennis.

So you can understand why we all feel abit cooped up. When we have this sort thing on order :)

[01cobravortech]

Why? do ET's have to be fallen angels to satisfy this.

Fallen angels could be those who have gone, our ancestors are the fallen. They would be angels as we.

http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/126180/1/L$27etude-Et-Le-G$E3$A9nie-D$E3$A9voilent-L$27antique-Egypte-$E3$A0-La-Gr$E3$A8ce-$28study-And-Genius-Reveals-Ancient-Egypt-And-Greece$29.jpg

What's your point with this pic? The "angels" in that pic don't even fit the description of "angels" in the Bible. And you would probably be terrified if you saw how the Cherubim and Seraphim looked based on the description the Bible gives. There are just so many dumb pictures floating around out there down through the ages that are "supposed depictions" of the angelic beings in the Bible and they don't even fit the description the Word of God gives. The same applies to all these stupid renditions of satan walking around in a red body suit and horns and pitchfork. That isn't even a biblical depiction. What the Bible tells us is that when satan was Lucifer, he was the most beautiful angel in Heaven. Who knows what he looks like now, but the art floating around out there is not based on the Bible in any way.

[sh3lly]

As far as I know, beings elevated over others, such as angels, archangels
or ascended masters, simply do not exist. All Light beings, this includes
Jesus Christ, are completely equal. All Light souls have roughly the same age,
because they were created around the same time during Creation.

All Light beings have the same knowledge and wisdom, the same power
and talent and potential. The only difference between Light souls, is the
type of Healing Gifts they have developed, and the memories they have
aqcuired through experience and incarnations, simply through existing.

Another difference is the task we have been given when we incarnated.
You or me had the same ability to play the role of Jesus Christ, this soul
is no different than you or me, but he had the task to let Light flow
through him freely and unhindered, and therefor this chance to bring Light
to Earth and wisdom and knowledge through actions and words, was
given to him, but it could have been given to any Light soul, we are all
equal.

There is a constant struggle between the Light, that restores the flow
of Light, and the non light, that tries to block the flow of Light, and to
create harm where it can. However, there is no war or fighting going
on between two armies.. the Light never uses violence, anger or any
kind of negativity when it deals with the non light. It only uses unconditional
love, compassion and forgiveness energies, to maintain the flow of Light
around them or the place they are restoring to Light.

The Light does not wage war.. the Light only loves and restores to Light
and to wholeness. There are Light Healers on Earth, many of them have
awakened, and they heal the wounds of both the Light and the non light.
Even Zeus, one of the leaders of the non light on Earth, has come to my
mentor for healing, and she has given it to him, she has restored his
wounds and released his blockages. The Light holds no grudge, it does
not hate, it does not get angry or impatient, it only heals and restores,
it only loves, forgives and shows compassion. Through the energy of pure
unconditional love we defend ourselves from the non light, because when
that energy is around us, or around a space, they cannot come there
and they cannot cause harm.

^
^
^
^
I like what you've said.

[sh3lly]

Honestly, I find the idea of extra-terrestrial beings from other planets or dimensions much more plausible than the idea that naked winged angels with harps and monsters with horns living in a place called hell that we will all go to *for eternity* simply for not asking Jesus Christ into our hearts exist.

[godgoo]

The arch angels and angels are our ancestors, for pitty sake.

[godgoo]

Honestly, I find the idea of extra-terrestrial beings from other planets or dimensions much more plausible than the idea that naked winged angels with harps and monsters with horns living in a place called hell that we will all go to *for eternity* simply for not asking Jesus Christ into our hearts exist.

No ones saying?

[godgoo]

As far as I know, beings elevated over others, such as angels, archangels
or ascended masters, simply do not exist. All Light beings, this includes
Jesus Christ, are completely equal. All Light souls have roughly the same age,
because they were created around the same time during Creation.

All Light beings have the same knowledge and wisdom, the same power
and talent and potential. The only difference between Light souls, is the
type of Healing Gifts they have developed, and the memories they have
aqcuired through experience and incarnations, simply through existing.

Another difference is the task we have been given when we incarnated.
You or me had the same ability to play the role of Jesus Christ, this soul
is no different than you or me, but he had the task to let Light flow
through him freely and unhindered, and therefor this chance to bring Light
to Earth and wisdom and knowledge through actions and words, was
given to him, but it could have been given to any Light soul, we are all
equal.

There is a constant struggle between the Light, that restores the flow
of Light, and the non light, that tries to block the flow of Light, and to
create harm where it can. However, there is no war or fighting going
on between two armies.. the Light never uses violence, anger or any
kind of negativity when it deals with the non light. It only uses unconditional
love, compassion and forgiveness energies, to maintain the flow of Light
around them or the place they are restoring to Light.

The Light does not wage war.. the Light only loves and restores to Light
and to wholeness. There are Light Healers on Earth, many of them have
awakened, and they heal the wounds of both the Light and the non light.
Even Zeus, one of the leaders of the non light on Earth, has come to my
mentor for healing, and she has given it to him, she has restored his
wounds and released his blockages. The Light holds no grudge, it does
not hate, it does not get angry or impatient, it only heals and restores,
it only loves, forgives and shows compassion. Through the energy of pure
unconditional love we defend ourselves from the non light, because when
that energy is around us, or around a space, they cannot come there
and they cannot cause harm.

Hogg Wash!

[godgoo]

What's your point with this pic? The "angels" in that pic don't even fit the description of "angels" in the Bible. And you would probably be terrified if you saw how the Cherubim and Seraphim looked based on the description the Bible gives. There are just so many dumb pictures floating around out there down through the ages that are "supposed depictions" of the angelic beings in the Bible and they don't even fit the description the Word of God gives. The same applies to all these stupid renditions of satan walking around in a red body suit and horns and pitchfork. That isn't even a biblical depiction. What the Bible tells us is that when satan was Lucifer, he was the most beautiful angel in Heaven. Who knows what he looks like now, but the art floating around out there is not based on the Bible in any way.

But I know a masterpiece when I see one :)

[orbione]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HITwy1N2KYQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dTB9YEm4Cc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuvBGMteKtw


Here's some Angel energys i have contact with occasionally. :D

Some but not all Alien ET contacts i believe are Fallen,it is clearly stated in beliefs older than christianity / Islam and the rest that these beings are the first created by the creator as his messenger army and intermediaries between worlds regardless of the religion spin people like to place upon them ,for they exist in ALL religious belief in one form or another,we do not become them once we lose the physical body and neither are they our ancestors.

God>>Angels>>Fallen/Not Fallen>>ET's Bad / Good that get perceived by the physically embodied in many different ways as they wish the person having the experience to perceive them. ;)

Just my 2p worth. :D

[motokeiru]

I know... I talked to a grey just the other night and he told me and I quote "dude... we were all made by satan didn't you know?" and I was like "no man, why did he make you?" then as I blinked he disappeared as if he was avoidind the question.

True story.

Really...

[godgoo]

I know... I talked to a grey just the other night and he told me and I quote "dude... we were all made by satan didn't you know?" and I was like "no man, why did he make you?" then as I blinked he disappeared as if he was avoidind the question.

True story.

Really...

You wasn't on extacy was you?

[omnisense]

We are aliens to most of the universe. your argument is not only stupid, its ridiculous.

I'm in contact with some ETs. Some of them could be labeled fallen, but not angels. The greys for example. They are more like demons than angels.

Some ETs are great beings, and are not negative beings. The OP's claims are garbage unless you consider all beings with a body fallen angels too...

[ufochick]

What else is there to say, these Fallen ANGELS, have craeted all these Identeties to keep Humanity BUSY,

But my question to them is HOW LONG do you think the BALL can keep ROLLING in your side of the COURT,


ALL ISSUES are related , and planned by these FALEN ANGELS.

ANY Issue you bring up, is THEM, even as I AM typing they KNOW, That their TIME is NEAR,

namaste

define alien and fallen angel.....

[01cobravortech]

We are aliens to most of the universe. your argument is not only stupid, its ridiculous.

I'm in contact with some ETs. Some of them could be labeled fallen, but not angels. The greys for example. They are more like demons than angels.

Some ETs are great beings, and are not negative beings. The OP's claims are garbage unless you consider all beings with a body fallen angels too...

You're in contact with entities presenting themselves and claiming to be "ETs." That doesn't make it so anymore than me sitting in a garage makes me a car.

[ashtarcommand]

We are aliens to most of the universe. your argument is not only stupid, its ridiculous.

I'm in contact with some ETs. Some of them could be labeled fallen, but not angels. The greys for example. They are more like demons than angels.

Some ETs are great beings, and are not negative beings. The OP's claims are garbage unless you consider all beings with a body fallen angels too... Agreed mate! this whole "lets label all aliens demons" way of thiking just doesnt make any sense at all..First of all we ourselfs are aliens! if the human race goes to another planet where there are other species that makes us "alien" so are we demons because of this? there is such a vast quantity of species in the universe that we cant even begin to imagine it so out of trillions of intelligent lifeforms only one is good ? because they believe in god/allah therefore billions of others more evolved species are demons and only one alien species=human race are good or "angels"? And please dont asume that the human race is the standard appereance so something that might look scary is not automaticlly a demon.

Seriously you guys need to get a grip and try to think for youreselfs for once there will always be good and bad forces it has nothing to do with demons god or Satan.

There are good aliens and bad aliens some can be interpeted as "demons" or "angels" thats all there is to it.

[pizdets]

I think people got it backwards. IMO the "fallen angels" are actually ET's who have been stringing humanity along on a leash for thousands of years. I'd imagine it would be pretty easy as an advanced ET race to trick our uncivilized monkey brains into thinking they descended from the heavens and that we should worship them. I mean you can't just say "well the demons are tricking you into thinking they are aliens" because it could easily be the other way around.

[relentless]

I don't understand. How do you identify one?:)

This should help...

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9230/angeluu.jpg (http://img718.imageshack.us/i/angeluu.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

[pound]

I believe that the Nephilim (fallen ones/giants) and the Watchers (the Nephilim under a different name) were factions of the Annunaki/Elohim that descended unto Earth, mated with Earth women, meddled with the human DNA and created the human race as a slave race ruled over by hybrid demi-gods (todays global elite/bloodlines). This particular passage concerning the Nephilim/Watchers rings so true to today's circumstances:

The giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth...Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin... And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth...And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them...thus shall they destroy until the day of the consummation, the great judgment in which the age shall be consummated over the Watchers and the godless, yea, shall be wholly consummated. And now as to the Watchers... say to them therefore: 'Ye have no peace.'"


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bb/enoch03.htm

I do believe that within all of these groupings and sub-groupings you had factions that were benevolent and malevolent towards humanity. Sadly though it would appear that the Earth has been under the control of the Malevolent groupings for thousands if not millions of years.

Seraphim (fiery serpents)/Cherabim/Rephaim/Emmim/Zazzumim/Anakim=Royal Dracs/Nephilim/Reptilians/Annunaki


With the Rephaim in particular though, I find it interesting that various passages in the OT and Book of Enoch refer to these entities as being the former spirits of the Nephilim that were killed in the global deluge (that possibly took out the civilizations commonly referred to as the Golden age) and confined to the 'abyss' I.E. the Earth's oceans and subterrenean depths (Terrestial inner earth Reptilians purported to inhabit the subterrenean realms of the world?). I think it's safe to say the Rephaim (the dreaded ones) are possibly the non-human entities responsible throughout time for all of the USO activity that has been documented since time immemorial!

http://www.crystalinks.com/ufoverwater.gifhttp://www.crystalinks.com/ufonavyship.jpg

An excellent documentary on USO's the Bermuda triangle and other ocean anomalies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtG02dF4iRQ

Jordan Maxwell's "Sons of God" with an excellent description of the "Rephaim" towards the middle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjABDWWvttU



In conclusion the word 'Angel' is a derivative of the Greek word 'Angelos' which simply means "messengers". Obviously these beings are of a celestial, non-human nature (and many times physically resemble the description of Royal Dracs with wings, horns and the ability to shape shift into many life forms). The Nephilim were said to be 'fallen angels' or Watchers, none the less they were a faction of the Annunaki (Those who from heaven to Earth came) possibly abandoned by the factions of Enlil as the story of EA/Lucifer goes, hence 'fallen ones'.

No doubt in my mind we are dealing with an extra-terrestial race.

[wisdomofthewind]

Religion was created so they could control us humans. To keep us from thinking for our selfs. To keep us from evolving. With religion, we stay in the same consciousness as we did back when it was created.

Watch Zeitgeist to get more information about religion. (Or just use google or youtube to get tons of information)

Just think about how many people who have died in the name of religion. It's insane! And do not just think about Islam now, Judaism and Christianity too!!
Many wars have been fought in the name of "God".
And yet, killing is a sin.

There is no "God". There is Prime Creator. But that is definitely not a man.
Everything is part of the prime creator. We are all creations. It's not a "man" who threatens people to worship him, or else they will be punished in hell. (What a loving man)
Prime creator is a all knowing consciousness, which we all have within.


Of course there is both good and bad in the universe, it must be balance. Without bad, there is no good, without good, there is no bad.

So of course there is both good and bad aliens too. Some bad ones is working with Illuminati. And it's bad ones who does abductions.
The good ones is helping us humans as much as they can. But they respect out free will, so they can't intervene unless we asks them too.
But they are there in the background, sending love and light to us humans, to protect us and help us develop our consciousness to a higher level.


And it's not "Satan" who is projecting aliens and things to keep us from the truth. It's Illuminati who is keeping the truth from us with religion among other things! You guys have got it all wrong! :p

[loading]

Those watchers...are those fuckers that "float" in the room?

[theperceivingeye]

We are aliens to most of the universe. your argument is not only stupid, its ridiculous.

I'm in contact with some ETs. Some of them could be labeled fallen, but not angels. The greys for example. They are more like demons than angels.

Some ETs are great beings, and are not negative beings. The OP's claims are garbage unless you consider all beings with a body fallen angels too...

I kinda wanted to make a thread about this same topic the other day; and maybe I still will. Ideally a thread of this nature should be about discussing various ideas and thus coming to a better understanding of the TRUE nature of reality. NOT one person telling everybody else what is the only truth. That sucks...

But yes you are right omniscience; a fallen angel (Angle) would not have a body. Though they may be able to use bodies, including the Greys, they would essentially be something "spiritual"...

[superearther]

There is no Devil and there is no Hell. But there is Annanuki and there is there Planet.

The Truths of Nibiru

There are many crop circles pertaining to Nibiru, revealing aspects of Nibiru which humans need to be aware of.
That is the purpose of all crop circles - created by the Elementals, giving information for humanity.
The information below is through the interpreting of some crop circles, karmas of others, dreams, visions and message
receiving from the Elementals, through the Communing Charts system and a Thesaurus.

Nibiru has a 2,040 year orbit through the universe ending and beginning again by swinging around this solar sun.
Every 12th orbit/12th passing, or every 25,000 years Nibiru deviates a little from its usual path, by coming closer to Earth than usual on its exit route
This causes Earth a 'struggle to turn', which in turn causes global devastation and chaos.
There is a lot of evidence on the computer netweb, to support a 25,000 year cycle, of devastation and re-birth.

Nibiru, called a satellite, is an appropriated planet from the Aldebaran system, once called Shiva. That is why Shiva/a false god, is a virtual 'pest' to anyones spiritual journey, The consciousness of Shiva 'jumped ship', and left Nibiru, a long time ago, and came to Earth, and is now a disenfranchised and lost consciousness.
Shiva was hollowed out, the central core is a nuclear device, and became the satellite it is today.

The Annanuki removes or collects uranium from many worlds, and processes it three large uranium processing plants on Nibiru.
Nibiru spews out its waste around the Universe, which has adversely effected many other worlds.
It is through a contact by Nibirians/The Annanuki, will encourage humans to mine uranium, created radio-active technology for themselves and a large amount stored for Nibirus return.
Which Earth is doing at this moment. There is a known underground uranium storage facility in California.
It is also known, that all worlds thus far, that have had nuclear dominating the energy source, have become poisoned.
This means Nibiru must constantly seek new worlds, and new uranium sources.
This also means, many species that are on poisoned worlds, must also seek new worlds for habitation.

There are races and species on Earth who originated from these nuclear poisoned worlds.
* The Original Chinese race was from Embaskit, in the Orion system - a poisoned world
* The Original Indian race was from a poisoned world in the Aldebaran system
* A race from Nubia/Mars, relocated from Mars, were ex-Lynx system (both Mars and Lynx-planet had Anu/Nibiruan interference)
* The Zeta (Zephelium) were poisoned by nuclear waste (hence they lost their original natural form 'sasquatch/wombat' and had to
create a technologicol form to hold soul.

There is no escape from ultimate poisoning, in creating radio active energy.

COLLIDED WORLDS
Nibiru has an even larger, unseen, world attached to it. This is a reptilian world, that initially appropriated Shiva.
Nibiru is primarily inhabited by the Annanuki.
The Annanuki are inhabited/interfaced by Reptilians.
The Annanuki, are an Andromedan race, gleaned for a so-called 'Universal Service' (very much like Army conscription on Earth)
Because of the attached reptilian world, most of the Annanuki are being interfered with (the same interference we have on Earth),
through interface/walkin, or internal reptilians called Wesadraks.

Because of this interference, the Annanuki have no spiritual abilities associated with authentic Ascension.
And the same as humans on Earth - have no idea they are being interfered with, being led and used by the reptilians, to do reptilians bidding.

The Annanuki, guided by the unseen reptilians, move around the Universe, mining/gleaning uranium, interfering in the lives of every planet,
species they have contact with. Generally creating 'royal and religion based hierachy' - as that is the 'plan and programme' whereby
the reptilians control humans. Angels and Seraphim have been created from the Annunaki/Andromedan blonde, blue-eyed form to continue
beliefs and control.

Nibiru and the reptilian world are considered the biggest interference in the Universe today

Nibiru is expected in this galaxy in 2010.
Nibiru has an advance guard of small craft - who will make contact with Earth, to retreive Uranium.
It will start the exit route in March 2012.
Nibirus exit route in 2012, is a 12th passing.

This is considered the 'end times' by the mayan calender
and considered 'the times of cleansing' by the spiritual realms and EarthMother.

These are the times to instigate a communion with the spiritual realms associated with Ascension
and are the same realms ready to inform and assist in every aspect in relation to Nibiru and its eventual devastation.
The Preparation - the Habilitation - the Re-Habilitation.

There is a plan for every single initiate - all tailor made for each persons circumstance.
These will not be times of survival and terror, but times of safety, harmony and creativity.
And having the time and space to anchor ones Communion and Ascension.Universe collecting Uranium









The Nibiruan Connection


The Ascending Initiate who is clearing karma today, to facilitate their own ascensions, are being guided by their Nature Guides
and EarthMother to go back further and further than humanity has ever done before in their 'clearing process'.
Revealing incredible truths of our planets karmic perpetrators, namely the Annanuki and who they REALLY were. The 12 main Annanuki
(greek gods) were puppets of the Melchizedek reptilian, as all humanity has been.

The following has all be revealed by initiates with Andromedan karma, Annanuki karma and reptilian/occult karma. Being pushed to
go back from before Earths seeding, and the karmas therein. In doing this 'Nibiru' is revealed.

Some known facts of the Annanuki-Melchizedek -Nibiru connection
· Merduk, Aphrodite, Athena, Apollo, Dionysus, Demeter, Zeus, all had a reptilian interface on arrival to Earth from Nibiru.
· They bought over 50 Andromedan 'blood stock' with them – horticulturists, entertainers, healers/midwives , weavers, and for their children
were to be the next hosts. As all future ancestors of the Andromedans were. The Melchizedek has been obsessed with the blond-blue-eyed form
for millions of years.
· Many nature species from Andromeda were brought to Earth when they first arrived 180,000 years ago.
· Earth records state that Merduk and Aphrodite (Innana) extended their lives for 18,000 years on Earth. This was not in the one, original form
, but the Melchizedek interface,
discarding aging forms and taking on younger forms. It was the reptilian that lived 'too long' on this planet, going mad. Causing their human
forms to act mad.
· There has always been 'factions' and competitions, between the Melchizedek families themselves, causing the hosts to live out these factions.
· The Melchizedeks reside in Universe 2. This is why they are not seen in the astral.
· They are only 'seen' in occult rituals, by the occult mother orchestrating the rituals. The Melchizedek has the ability to come into our world
sufficiently to take an 'active' part in these rituals. Even then they are not physical, nor are they on the astral plane. (The Melchizedeks have
a Universal Mastery, even though they are a fallen species)
· They all arrived on Earth from Nibiru, at varying times Nibiru is in our solar system.
· Nibiru has a 2,240 year orbit, interfering with many other planets other than Earth.
· There are many species on Nibiru, but the 3D physical humans (the Andromedan stock) appear to have no ordinary lives on Nibiru, but are kept in
stasis whilst travelling. It takes Nibiru 200 years to get from Andromeda to Earth, so Nibiru has some interesting technology.
· Nibiru was once a planet on its own 'ascension cycle' – when the Melchizedeks appropriated it, by colliding with this planet, and staying latched
on. Nibiru is really 2 planets in one. (one in Universe 1 and one in Universe 2) 5 million years ago.
· There are many crop circles depicting Nibiru, its orbit and path, origins, inhabitants, and its harm due mainly to the Melchizedeks.

Over the next couple of years more information will be brought forth – as too, DISinformation and spin. Nibiru enters our Solar System and WILL
interfere, as Earth has now started her Ascension. The Melchizedeks, the biggest corruptive force on this planet DO NOT WANT HUMANITY TO ASCEND.

No doubt the 'messiah' will be trucked out, or two really. To give credence to those in certain religions that are convinced of 'the rapture',
that there will be a first messiah, who will be a false one and the second one is the real deal. They both will be false. The Melchizedeks are
the ones planting these ideas.
They orchestrate everything, they always have done, with the usual touch of spin.

The wars, the religions, the wealth/banks, governments, health, entertainment.
This is why Earth sees 'Ascension' as humanities only solution for Freedom, and true Evolution, and it is.
And the Melchizedeks know it – after all, all the 'angelic' channelings and 'angels' are Melchizedeks. The 'galactic federation' is all reptilian.
Three quarters of the meta-physical works on the net, and works purporting to be 'ascension' are reptilian. Religions, Banks, Corporations
and governing bodies are reptilian.

Learn to muscle-test and pendulum, it really is the only way to authenticate the presence of a rep. And learn to communicate with your own Nature
Guide, who will inform you through the dream of any interference.

Nibiru has been interfering in many other worlds and planets besides Earth. This too, is shown in a couple of crop circles. And we will discover
many Nature Species are from these other worlds, that cannot ascend with Earths nature realms. It will be each ascending initiate that has some
role to play in returning a nature species, and some role to play in regards to Nibiru.












The Electrical Reptilian and the Annanuki

- and what this means to Earth


Before the Annanuki arrived 180,000 years ago, the Earth and her inhabitants were magnetic. The flower of life (resident energy) was magnetic.
The energy construct is soft movement, rotound, circular, ball shape – and the thoughtform and being is UNITY.
The energy construct of electrical, is sharp, pointed – and the thoughtform and being is POLARITY.
(directly opposed to either end, of Unity).

The reptilian that the Anu brought with them had electrical DNA, and because the electrical reptilians puppeted the Annanuki,
the Annanuki were electrical also.
With every interaction the Anu (greek gods) had with the red races, they harmed. Their 'electrical being' in every way, shredded
the etheric body realms of the magnetic races.
Their physical selves and the electrical reptilian they trucked along with them.

We exist in a 15 dimensional egg-shape capsule, and the earth does too, though hers is spherical., because she is. In this capsule,
are the 15 dimensions, all existing in the 'same' space, just in different realities, due to the angle and rate of their molecule spin.
In these higher dimensions are beings and consciousnesses, also having an Earth experience, along with their physical species.
e.g. A rock in the 3rd dimension is a crystal in the 5th dimension is a 'lightbody' consciousness in the 7th dimension – which we call
an 'elemental/Diva'. Many are not from this sun, but are evolving themselves upon Earth – having the Earth experience for their learning.
They, and higher beings, exist amongst us – and would guide any being wanting higher information.
The moment the electrical reptilian started to breed and became a large force, they had the ability to shred all the dimensional realms
within the humans Subtle Body egg capsule .. cutting all 'communication' with ones Soul Self, Higher Self, Second Lightbody.
Over time, as Earth moved into the Atlantis period (120,000 years to 100,000) Earth became so electrical and radio active( radio active
from the Alpha Centauri beings DNA, that also invaded Earth, and wanted dominion).
All the higher dimensions after the 6 & 7 were pulled away from Earths Core, it was here, that even our Beloved Earth was devoid of all
higher guidance as a new (electrical) flower of life, had been slowly and meticulously encasing her
There is no Spiritual Being in the multi-Universes that is not, does not, take direction from those higher than they.
Each time Earth willed the destruction of a species, she fell in consciousness -even though she was trying to protect herself, and the
non-harmful species upon her. Spiritual Law is Spiritual Law.
Harm begets more harm.
So the reptilians were here to stay until Earth could see her errors
Here to stay until the humans could see their karmas (errors) also, their own inner harmfulness, they started to incarnate with.
This inner harmfulness, in turn, made the Nature Realms equally harmful as they had agreed to be a mirror, a lesson, for humanity, and
a proxy soul guide if one allowed (or understood).
Since all soul voice was gone.


We were alone, spiritually, mentally and then emotionally.
(there are karmas attached to this – Depression is one cause of the Original feelings of being abandoned by soul.)

The reptilians ran amuck – causing Earth to again, say 'enough'!
As she did with the dinosaurs, an Alpha Centauri dream, when they became harmful and out of control – Earth willed their extinction.
The same at the end of the Atlantis period.
And was willing our extinction again, until just recently.

This was what happened to Maldek, our asteroid belt – a method of a planet willing the extinction of a harmful species. In his case,
it back-fired, and this could have been the eventual outcome of Earth if it was not for this 'Ascension Cycle' being pressed upon her and us.

Although we are in our Ascension cycle, eventually the higher vibrations of Earth (land ascending) will not be conducive to the reptilians,
and they will have to leave the planet.
However, this higher vibration in all places, is going to take another 10-15 years at least. In the meantime, the reptilians are out of control.
Interfering whenever and wherever they can.
Giving out spin, confusing and giving disinformation to the people who know about them and sincerely want to do something about them.
The reptilians know who these people are – and at every opportunity, give out a 'new bit of information' .. keeping these people attached
to the reptilian agenda INSTEAD of ascending.

Or their electrical being, is so disresonant to form, the human is unable to start ascending, as the worm creates Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
– those that should be ascending are too weary, too ill.
Or the electrical state of their being, pushes back the higher dimensions, and so the potential intiate cannot get the higher guidance they
need to ascend.

There is something called 'The Frequency Fence' .. a frequency boundary if you will. The amount of 'spin' about this is also fanciful,
that it has been removed.
It is very much alive and well.
Electrical, radio-active, micro-waves, some poisons, including the electrical reptilians themselves all create ...ARE, the frequency barrier.
The only thing that stops an electrical influence influencing, is ice.
There is physical ice and etheric ice. The ice at the North and South Poles, are protective barriers for Earths physical /etheric kundalhini openings
. The ice poles, have always been the protective barriers for Earth.
Etheric ice is constantly being moved around the planet, by the Sylphs/Ranthia, to circumvent interfering strategies by the reptilians.
That is why we have this strange phenomena of global warming, but
unusual coldness in some areas.
Most of the harmful weather, we are experiencing at the moment, are manipulations of the dark, using some unknown energy source and device.
We know this, because the Elementals and Sylphs will inform us if we ask.
The chemicals being released into the atmosphere are to dumb-down humans, make us so placid, we cannot be interested or 'engaged' – however
the Elementals also have a strategy regarding this.
Every human reading this, can do many things to help the Elementals (the Sylphs are from Uranus, assisting the Elementals and Earth – they
do not generally commune directly with humans, it is the Earths Elementals that do this).
1. Take responsibility for your own Ascension, and start Ascending.
2. Take responsibility that you are an Earth Steward, and what this entails – as you will have 'Agreements' for many world service tasks.
3. Assist the Elementals, by acquiring tools to have the exact instructions of what to do, given to you. You are only contacted to help when
you have some tools, and can interprete your messages.
4. Do not assume you know what to do, and when to do it.

Tools: Dream – Lucid Dreaming – Vision/clairvoyance - Tarot – Symbology from Nature and your own Kineseology (body symbology) .
Which all require correct interpretation and authentication by Muscle-testing and Penduluming.

Do you still think its a love Story?

[theperceivingeye]

There is no Devil and there is no Hell. But there is Annanuki and there is there Planet.


Show me one ancient sumerian text that mentions the "Annunaki" aside from what is claimed in the work of Zechariah Sitchin...

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?simplesearchword=annunaki&simplesearch=translation&searchword=&charenc=gcirc&lists=

[pound]

Show me one ancient sumerian text that mentions the "Annunaki" aside from what is claimed in the work of Zechariah Sitchin...

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?simplesearchword=annunaki&simplesearch=translation&searchword=&charenc=gcirc&lists=


You might want to look into the works of Samuel Kramer.

Samuel Noah Kramer (September 28, 1897–November 26, 1990) was one of the world's leading Assyriologists and a world renowned expert in Sumerian history and Sumerian language.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Noah_Kramer

The whole story as later re-interpreted by Sitchin is instantly familiar in the earlier translations and writings of Kramer. Here's a few excerpts from Kramers 1961 book, "Sumerian Mythology: A Study of Spiritual and Literary Achievement in the Third Millennium B.C. (Forgotten Books". The Annunaki are mentioned frequently:

http://books.google.com/books?id=t16tDOHZLLEC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=samuel+kramer+sumerian+mythology+annunaki&source=bl&ots=HkgHS7Bcss&sig=s0Uyn8ZEXlhoKyCxLMncEzPR9RU&hl=en&ei=E9ZVTMmdG8L-8Aa6nayMBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

[theperceivingeye]

You might want to look into the works of Samuel Kramer.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Noah_Kramer

The whole story as later re-interpreted by Sitchin is instantly familiar in the earlier translations and writings of Kramer. Here's a few excerpts from Kramers 1961 book, "Sumerian Mythology: A Study of Spiritual and Literary Achievement in the Third Millennium B.C. (Forgotten Books". The Annunaki are mentioned frequently:

http://books.google.com/books?id=t16tDOHZLLEC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92&dq=samuel+kramer+sumerian+mythology+annunaki&source=bl&ots=HkgHS7Bcss&sig=s0Uyn8ZEXlhoKyCxLMncEzPR9RU&hl=en&ei=E9ZVTMmdG8L-8Aa6nayMBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Thanks. I'll definitely look into this guy's work.

[superearther]

Show me one ancient sumerian text that mentions the "Annunaki" aside from what is claimed in the work of Zechariah Sitchin...

http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/etcsl.cgi?simplesearchword=annunaki&simplesearch=translation&searchword=&charenc=gcirc&lists=

you need to study the texts to learn this. Images proof existence too.
If you want evidence then look up my nibiru videos on youtube
user - superearther

[thespiritforce]

i'd just like to point out that angels can't fall as they don't have the free will to do anything that would warrant getting kicked out of heaven. all they can do is serve God. that's it.

so if the devil was an angel, how did he fall? this is cleared up in islam where the devil is a creature called a 'jinn'. (we call them 'genies' here in the west. and if you were wondering, jinn are made of smokeless fire, angels are made of light, and men are made of clay...) only men and jinn have free will, according to islam. angels do not.

also, as a test from God, jinn have a lot of powers that humans don't have. shapeshifting is one of their powers and they can even appear in human form. a lot of muslims believe that 'aliens' and 'ghosts' are actually jinn trying to trick mankind out of rememberence of God. it's also interesting to note that not all jinn are evil as some of them choose to worship their Creator.

just thought i'd add another viewpoint, peace.

Uh...Lucifer and his cohorts were fallen Angels and even kicked out of Heaven. As it is written in the Bible, also, there were Giants here before and will be again and these breed with our women here on Earth, as from that we have the half breeds we have...be that what it may be or is. :eek:

[theperceivingeye]

you need to study the texts to learn this. Images proof existence too.
If you want evidence then look up my nibiru videos on youtube
user - superearther

Which texts? The one's in Sitchins head? Can you name the specific texts please?

[superearther]

Which texts? The one's in Sitchins head? Can you name the specific texts please?

wrong posting from me......I base my opinion on the pictures. meh :\

[thespiritforce]

wrong posting from me......I base my opinion on the pictures. meh :\

And other people's work, as well. :rolleyes:

[vrbac]

Hey everybody!I think my head is gonna explode because of all the information i am very confused now can somebody tell me the truth please?there are million different stories on the web which one can i beleive to?are all religions menmade?i was an atheist all my life but now i belive in god but wich religion is true?or are they all menmade?do heaven or hell really exist?will i go to hell if i don't pray to god and if i make sins?sorry for the stupid questions i am really confused all i wan't to know is the truth but the more i read the more confused i get.thanks

[thespiritforce]

Hey everybody!I think my head is gonna explode because of all the information i am very confused now can somebody tell me the truth please?there are million different stories on the web which one can i beleive to?are all religions menmade?i was an atheist all my life but now i belive in god but wich religion is true?or are they all menmade?do heaven or hell really exist?will i go to hell if i don't pray to god and if i make sins?sorry for the stupid questions i am really confused all i wan't to know is the truth but the more i read the more confused i get.thanks

There is, now, without question that this Universe was by creation...therefore there had to of been a Creator and it was from The Big Bang as well, which has been dated back some 17.7 Billions years ago now and where there is and was a Big Bang, but no atmosphere yet, still there was and had to of been a Banger...Creator of The Big Bang that is making our Universe forever expanding outward and onward out into infinite space or as it would seem.

Now, as far as a God and evil...well, you, we all, have a conscience that tells us all of good, right, bad and wrong and guess what? You know it...don't you?

To start...You can think of all things as Created by a Super awesome power of our Universe...a Super Natural Spirit Being that we seem to all be made in it's image, as Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost.

Yes, just to start you off as all of that is true...now, where you take it is up to you and your own heart and conscience. imo

Oh and we all were not man-made, of course you know that and can understand that, as well...right?

[superearther]

And other people's work, as well. :rolleyes:

i admit wrong doing and all you can do is feed from this like some form of human parasite. Why not show compassion and help?

[thespiritforce]

i admit wrong doing and all you can do is feed from this like some form of human parasite. Why not show compassion and help?

Compassion? Where may I say, have I not shown mankind any at? Maybe you'd like to re-read this one more time, as in it is more of real service to humanity in anyone, of just one, of my sentences here than what you speak about in all of your fictional make up bull...such as and I ASK YOU ERAD REAL SLOW THIS TIME AROUND...OK? :confused:

There is, now, without question that this Universe was by creation...therefore there had to of been a Creator and it was from The Big Bang as well, which has been dated back some 17.7 Billions years ago now and where there is and was a Big Bang, but no atmosphere yet, still there was and had to of been a Banger...Creator of The Big Bang that is making our Universe forever expanding outward and onward out into infinite space or as it would seem.

Now, as far as a God and evil...well, you, we all, have a conscience that tells us all of good, right, bad and wrong and guess what? You know it...don't you?

To start...You can think of all things as Created by a Super awesome power of our Universe...a Super Natural Spirit Being that we seem to all be made in it's image, as Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost.

Yes, just to start you off, as all of that is true...now, where you take it...is up to you and your own heart and conscience. imo

Oh and we all were not man-made, of course you know that and can understand that, as well...right?


Now, again...Who has the real compassion here...me or your parasite image you seem to like to call me names of? :eek:

[lyricusmagna]

What else is there to say, these Fallen ANGELS, have craeted all these Identeties to keep Humanity BUSY,

But my question to them is HOW LONG do you think the BALL can keep ROLLING in your side of the COURT,


ALL ISSUES are related , and planned by these FALEN ANGELS.

ANY Issue you bring up, is THEM, even as I AM typing they KNOW, That their TIME is NEAR,

namaste

No, they are aliens, and you are a confused individual.

Demons do not exist, in the form described in the Bible.

[thespiritforce]

No, they are aliens, and you are a confused individual.

Demons do not exist, in the form described in the Bible.


Well, I am sure Lucifer will love to hear that and rejoice in your non-sense of reality, as it says, keep up the good work and soon no one will even believe in all of this evil in our world today that is overwhelming in it's evidence of it being here for all THE WORLD to see and know, as in like...IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU SEE AND LOOK and you really think Lucifer, the fallen angel, didn't take a few with him when he was kicked out of heaven because of envy of mankind? Better think again, but wait...evil thinks for you...Now, doesn't it...maybe? :eek:

[jconnar]

Evil thinks for you

This must be pondered upon.

[thespiritforce]

This must be pondered upon.

Well, it's like who makes us wonder, as well, as both God and evil do make us all wonder and think, in which we all be and do...other than what we can on our own...which I don't think is all that much to begin with, as in everything we think about and be and do, as in what God would have us all do and be, as in the being of good, the being of right, the thinking of doing good and the thinking of doing right....whereas evil would have us all do and be, as in the being of bad, the being of wrong, the doing of bad and the doing of wrong and the thinking of bad and then the thinking of wrong. Now! Who do we listen to and who makes us all wonder the most of, as within our own conscience, in which they both speak to us all, as within us all...to be and do...in the many different ways we can be and do, as to all good or bad, right or wrong and so on?

Believe it or not...it is quite simple to even know, as I have devised away where you can know, as to who is speaking to you, as within your own conscience, as we all know what is good and bad...what is right and wrong...what is doing good and what is doing bad...what is thinking right and what is thinking wrong and so on, as in The 24 Hour Test of Discernment between when both God or evil is speaking within YOU, as to your own conscience, as we all have one...to know. :D

You can find this 24 Hour Test of Discernment at my Website... http://www.thespiritforce.com/index.php which I have turned off, for now, but can open up any or all of it if ask to...if you e-mail me and I;ll give you a Password for anyone of the forums there where I have many of my writings on many of many things in and of Spiritual in Nature and as to who we all are also and the real proof of it all being so, as well, thus and therefore proof of The Super Natural and The Paranormal, at that, also and can be all proven, by I, on a repeatable basis, at that, as well, too. :)

[annunaki resistance]

I declare Uncreation on ...whoever disagrees with me! :D

Seriously, interesting topic...and interesting back and forth on it.

[lyricusmagna]

Well, I am sure Lucifer will love to hear that and rejoice in your non-sense of reality

Reality and religion are two words that don't go along in the same sentence, sorry.

And Lucifer was an alien, not demon.

as it says, keep up the good work and soon no one will even believe in all of this evil in our world today that is overwhelming in it's evidence of it being here for all THE WORLD to see and know, as in like...IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU SEE AND LOOK and you really think Lucifer, the fallen angel, didn't take a few with him when he was kicked out of heaven because of envy of mankind? Better think again,

Yes, evil does exist. But not in the form represented by you and the like. God and evil are more like opposite philosophical views.

but wait...evil thinks for you...Now, doesn't it...maybe? :eek:

No, not exactly. But you seem to be letting the Bible do the thinking for you. After all, you are all sheep to your Lord right? Carry on then. Look after the bells around your neck.

[thespiritforce]

Reality and religion are two words that don't go along in the same sentence, sorry.

And Lucifer was an alien, not demon.



Yes, evil does exist. But not in the form represented by you and the like. God and evil are more like opposite philosophical views.



No, not exactly. But you seem to be letting the Bible do the thinking for you. After all, you are all sheep to your Lord right? Carry on then. Look after the bells around your neck.

To me...clueless rings a bell...wonder why? But, never mind...I know and seems you don't. Sad! Yes, sad case indeed. Believe what you will...you will only pay in and on your end into Death.:(

[omnisense]

Evil thinks for you

mmore true than people know. I have had hundreds if not thousands of experiences where evil tried to think for me. I have ET help in identifying it most of the time now. I am lead to believe my case is rare. but I do wonder how many peoples minds have been infiltrated. Seems like a lot.

[jconnar]

Well, it's like who makes us wonder, as well, as both God and evil do make us all wonder and think, in which we all be and do...other than what we can on our own...which I don't think is all that much to begin with, as in everything we think about and be and do, as in what God would have us all do and be, as in the being of good, the being of right, the thinking of doing good and the thinking of doing right....whereas evil would have us all do and be, as in the being of bad, the being of wrong, the doing of bad and the doing of wrong and the thinking of bad and then the thinking of wrong. Now! Who do we listen to and who makes us all wonder the most of, as within our own conscience, in which they both speak to us all, as within us all...to be and do...in the many different ways we can be and do, as to all good or bad, right or wrong and so on?

Believe it or not...it is quite simple to even know, as I have devised away where you can know, as to who is speaking to you, as within your own conscience, as we all know what is good and bad...what is right and wrong...what is doing good and what is doing bad...what is thinking right and what is thinking wrong and so on, as in The 24 Hour Test of Discernment between when both God or evil is speaking within YOU, as to your own conscience, as we all have one...to know. :D

You can find this 24 Hour Test of Discernment at my Website... http://www.thespiritforce.com/index.php which I have turned off, for now, but can open up any or all of it if ask to...if you e-mail me and I;ll give you a Password for anyone of the forums there where I have many of my writings on many of many things in and of Spiritual in Nature and as to who we all are also and the real proof of it all being so, as well, thus and therefore proof of The Super Natural and The Paranormal, at that, also and can be all proven, by I, on a repeatable basis, at that, as well, too. :)

mmore true than people know. I have had hundreds if not thousands of experiences where evil tried to think for me. I have ET help in identifying it most of the time now. I am lead to believe my case is rare. but I do wonder how many peoples minds have been infiltrated. Seems like a lot.



Spot on guys. When I read that 'evil thinks for you' I knew it had a deeper meaning which most people do not understand.

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Fallen Angels or Aliens, the evil ones are just plain evil and want to kill you.

[lyricusmagna]

To me...clueless rings a bell...wonder why? But, never mind...I know and seems you don't. Sad! Yes, sad case indeed. Believe what you will...you will only pay in and on your end into Death.:(

I don't believe, I leave that for you to do. I KNOW. You can't know if you believe. And if you don't believe what's the point in being in a religion or practice God/Spirit worship?

And I have been in communication with ETs almost my entire life. If they wanted me dead, they would have done so by now. And they have never been evil to me in any way. But YOU, can believe what you want ... :rolleyes:

[thespiritforce]

I don't believe, I leave that for you to do. I KNOW. You can't know if you believe. And if you don't believe what's the point in being in a religion or practice God/Spirit worship?

And I have been in communication with ETs almost my entire life. If they wanted me dead, they would have done so by now. And they have never been evil to me in any way. But YOU, can believe what you want ... :rolleyes:

Well, we all are made in God's image and that includes Aliens, as well, as they too are Spirit Being and or Living Ghost and it's written in The Bible about Aliens. I just think they are a more advanced stage in evolution from Creation, as it is a known fact, now...this Universe exploded out by The Big Bang Theory, as we can trace back to this great heat source of radiation from it's inception that it had to of been and was and where there was a ignited Big Bang...well, there has to of been a Banger and an Energy Force that ignited it ti begin with, as well, as in The Great Spirit Force of Energy and the 1st Fundamental Force of Energy at that. Got to go for now...lightning outside!

[lyricusmagna]

Well, we all are made in God's image and that includes Aliens, as well, as they too are Spirit Being and or Living Ghost and it's written in The Bible about Aliens. I just think they are a more advanced stage in evolution from Creation, as it is a known fact, now...this Universe exploded out by The Big Bang Theory, as we can trace back to this great heat source of radiation from it's inception that it had to of been and was and where there was a ignited Big Bang...well, there has to of been a Banger and an Energy Force that ignited it ti begin with, as well, as in The Great Spirit Force of Energy and the 1st Fundamental Force of Energy at that. Got to go for now...lightning outside!

True .... but the each universe is born with the burst of matter and energy in the supermassive black holes.

[thespiritforce]

True .... but the each universe is born with the burst of matter and energy in the supermassive black holes.

Well, actually a Black Hole...a stellar black hole is created...and as far as an other Universe....well that too is only one of many Theories that to me will never hold up and the only reason that they claim there are other Universes is because that they have no idea, whatsoever, as to where certain Particles, Atoms and even their Electrons and nucleus pops in and out of existence, as to where they even go...So, they come up with this non-sense of other Universes where they are there too popping in and out of existence into our Universe. No! As I know, for a fact, that I can even pop in and out of existence, as well...so this is all just not true, at all. Such as when you call someone on a cell phone...your Spirit Being pops into their existence on the other end and when you hang up...you pop out of existence where ever it was you where Spiritually interacting within another Spirit Being in another place of your existence, as we too are made up of Atoms and our Spirit Beings are made up of Spiritron Particles that ride on Spiritational Waves of Energy that take you back and forth where you do pop in and out of existence and it is I that can prove this all to not only be possible but the facts of it all, at that, as well. :)

But, a common type of black hole is the type produced by some dying stars. A star with a mass greater than 20 times the mass of our Sun may produce a black hole at the end of its life. In the normal life of a star there is a constant tug of war between gravity pulling in and pressure pushing out. Nuclear reactions in the core of the star produce enough energy to push outward. For most of a star's life, gravity and pressure balance each other exactly, and so the star is stable. However, when a star runs out of nuclear fuel, gravity gets the upper hand and the material in the core is compressed even further. The more massive the core of the star, the greater the force of gravity that compresses the material, collapsing it under its own weight. For small stars, when the nuclear fuel is exhausted and there are no more nuclear reactions to fight gravity, the repulsive forces among electrons within the star eventually create enough pressure to halt further gravitational collapse. The star then cools and dies peacefully. This type of star is called the "white dwarf." When a very massive star exhausts its nuclear fuel it explodes as a supernova. The outer parts of the star are expelled violently into space, while the core completely collapses under its own weight.

[christ4life]

I have a BETTER name for the FALLEN WATCHERS the FALLEN TOUCHERS,
They thouch things that is not theirs, and watche things which are PRIVATE between us Humans.

:):D

Namste

:D

I guess it was boring to just watch all the time.;)

[christ4life]

Well, we all are made in God's image and that includes Aliens, as well, as they too are Spirit Being and or Living Ghost and it's written in The Bible about Aliens. I just think they are a more advanced stage in evolution from Creation, as it is a known fact, now...this Universe exploded out by The Big Bang Theory, as we can trace back to this great heat source of radiation from it's inception that it had to of been and was and where there was a ignited Big Bang...well, there has to of been a Banger and an Energy Force that ignited it ti begin with, as well, as in The Great Spirit Force of Energy and the 1st Fundamental Force of Energy at that. Got to go for now...lightning outside!

Yeah you got lightning outside because God is trying to tell you he caused the big bang. Just think of the big bang of thunder. If God is a created being than he is not God because you can't be a created being in order to be God.

[christ4life]

I always wounderd if angels are created from a smokeless fire than wouldn't lightning also be a form of smokeless fire?

How come some people survive ligntning attacks, and others don't?

[jconnar]

I always wounderd if angels are created from a smokeless fire than wouldn't lightning also be a form of smokeless fire?

How come some people survive ligntning attacks, and others don't?

I always thought they were created out of Gods mouth. lol

[thespiritforce]

Yeah you got lightning outside because God is trying to tell you he caused the big bang. Just think of the big bang of thunder. If God is a created being than he is not God because you can't be a created being in order to be God.

Yes, I get the part where you say God created or where I said, God ignited The Big Bang Theory...So, He doesn't have to create any lightning strikes for me to know...outside of my own house, but once while my son was standing right beside me and we were looking out the front door, watching a small Lightning Storm and it just came to me...I guess like what also Nicoli Tesla said, as well and one of the greatest inventors ever...but yeah, he too said when someone ask him how did what all he knew came from and he said or told 'em..."It just comes to me." and as was the case when me and my son, of about 8 years of age...way back then, as it too just came to me that I could create a Lightning Bolt right out in the middle of our dead-end court of the street we lived on, as I told him "watch this..."I'm going to make lightning hit right out there in the middle of our court."...As he knew all about me and my Spiritual abilities with forces of energy that we all have and can use and have proven to him before, as well, but as I looked right at where I would at and...right in the middle of our dead-end court, as I seemed to have pushed a Spiritual energy force at eye level and I did, as in this huge Lightning Bolt of Energy hit right out there in the middle of our court as I predicted to him I would make take place, as it did and it shook everyones windows all around our court too and we both even jumped back because it was so huge and loud with a huge burst of light also. But, mentioning about Lightning brought back those memories of me and my son back then when...all the windows around our dead-end court shook and you could hear them rattle and shake. But, it is because we all are connected as one with as within our consciousness world of oneness of one that made it where it was even possible to do such a thing and really make it happen just the way I said, it all did and went down. True happening!

But, yeah also...or back to what we were talking about, as I got the part of God creating The Big Bang to begin with...it's the part where you say,
If God is a created being than he is not God because you can't be a created being in order to be God Well, bottomline on that is...there had to of been something here for any of this to be here and we now know it was a Big Bang Theory that exploded our Universe outward and onward, as it is still expanding still yet to this day and someone had to of made The Big Bang as the Banger of such...thus and therefore we have God and since we all are made in God's image, as a Spirit Force of Energy in Nature and all within this our consciousness world of oneness of one, as in we all are connected and even connected within our Earth also makes it where, as He that is in me it is I that is in Him and that can go as deep as one might like or want to take it, as far as even being filled with The Holy Ghost, as when one is rid of all evil as within oneself, as to ask to be forgiven of ones sins, as we all have sinned...then one can be filled and that is what is meant by being filled, as in filled with The Holy Ghost, as one will have the power of all good and right which is true power over all that is bad and wrong and as I said, as you are Him...He is YOU and made in His image anyway. :)

But, I also have many real proofs of I, as a Supernatural Spirit Being of an Energy Force to be reckoned with, as we all are or can be, as we are no different any other...other than our own advancements in the physical, emotional, Spiritual, mental, evolution and Super Natural abilities of and in all of our Paranormal World and Universe...as there is nothing here, but US, as Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost and Energy...in and of which we all are of that, as well, as in 99.99999% of all matter or what all you think you see, think you hear, think you touch, think you taste and think you smell is all just inside of all of your heads of vibrations of energy turned into electrical signals going to your brain of what you think you see, hear, touch, taste and smell.

But, just know this for just a couple of things you can try on your friends with, as in when you think you touch something...you never do, as what you are doing is the Atomic Structure of what part of your body is what you think is touching something or someone is but only feeling the Atomic Structure pressure pushing back on your own Atomic Structure of let's say, your finger or and here is another one you can use, as in like you think you see through your eyes...well, no...actually your own eyes see through you, as it is all vibrations of energy of photons that go through your eyes and is tuned upside down and then turned into electrical signals going to your brain of everything you THINK you see out there...you see...ha ha, pun on that one huh, but you may understand, as in like...for all you know you could very well be in some Aliens jar hooked up to it's PC running all electrical signals going to your brain of everything you see, hear, touch, taste and smell of what all YOU THINK YOU DO and guess what...you can't prove that it's not? But, the good news is...I can! Prove I even exist...whereas, all others in our world today can't. It's all an Illusion and 99.9999% of everything is void of anything...THERE IS NOTHING HERE, BUT US, as Spirit Beings playing in this The Game of Life of and in God's Holodeck or The Matrix...of what you might know it, as. :D

[christ4life]

I always thought they were created out of Gods mouth. lol

Well the breath of life only God knows.

[jconnar]

Well the breath of life only God knows.

Very nice words. :)

[thespiritforce]

Yeah you got lightning outside because God is trying to tell you he caused the big bang. Just think of the big bang of thunder. If God is a created being than he is not God because you can't be a created being in order to be God.

You want to maybe explain that last part where God is not created and where I never said He was and how somehow that makes me not God in which I know I am not but IU am made in His image...PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF...I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE JUST COMING ON HERE AND SAYING ANYTHING OF ANYTHING AND MAKING NO SENSE AND THEN WHEN ASK TO EXPLAIN....WELL, WE WILL HOLD OUR BREATH...I GUESS WAITING FOR AN EXPLANATION. :rolleyes:

[christ4life]

You want to maybe explain that last part where God is not created and where I never said He was and how somehow that makes me not God in which I know I am not but IU am made in His image...PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF...I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE JUST COMING ON HERE AND SAYING ANYTHING OF ANYTHING AND MAKING NO SENSE AND THEN WHEN ASK TO EXPLAIN....WELL, WE WILL HOLD OUR BREATH...I GUESS WAITING FOR AN EXPLANATION. :rolleyes:

He made you the way he sees himself, and the angels. Its kind of like if you had an identical twin the twin looks like you but they are not you.

[christ4life]

Very nice words. :)

Funny how orbs remind me of when a kid blows bubbles. They look like bubbles, and if God blew them out of his mouth then he must be blowing bubbles.

[thespiritforce]

He made you the way he sees himself, and the angels. Its kind of like if you had an identical twin the twin looks like you but they are not you.

It says it right in The Bible...WE ARE MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE...Thus and therefore we only can be what He is, as in a Spirit Being and or Living Ghost and to be filled with THE HOLY GHOST would mean we would be FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST.

Look, it's now a know fact...99.9999% of all matter is void of anything as in like when you break down an Atom, in which everything is made up of, as in an Atomic Structure of...and if you look at the Atom and say it is as big as a basketball, for example, then how far away is or would be the orbiting electron, as all Atoms have orbiting Electrons...Here is the news...20 miles of nothing, but empty space...thus and therefore 99,9999% of all matter is void of anything, as this is all but an illusion of God's Holodeck or this Matrix most know it as...in which, we all are playing The Game of Life in, as whenever you have winners and losers...you have a game...The Game of Life, where you/I/everyone has only in the blink of an eye to get it right or not, as in comparison to our Earth's life span of 4.5 Billions years old now and do you think time and space mean anything to God who can go forward into the future or backwards, as well, as He knows everything there is to know because He is ALL OF ENERGY, as in The Great Spirit Force of All Energy and we are a Spirit Force of Energy or Living Ghost made in His image, as we now know also we are The Machine inside The Machine and that would be, as a Spirit Being that this vessel, of our body, holds till we passover to the other side or Death if we/you/everyone doesn't get it right and know, as you can know God, as God knows you and every hair on your head, at that...OK? OK. :)

[lyricusmagna]

Aliens are not fallen angels. And why do you always equate them with fallen angels/demons? Some have been confused with the 'good' angels as well...

[thespiritforce]

Aliens are not fallen angels. And why do you always equate them with fallen angels/demons? Some have been confused with the 'good' angels as well...

Ok, expert on Aliens and I'll leave it at that.

[superearther]

We are aliens to most of the universe. your argument is not only stupid, its ridiculous.

I'm in contact with some ETs. Some of them could be labeled fallen, but not angels. The greys for example. They are more like demons than angels.

Some ETs are great beings, and are not negative beings. The OP's claims are garbage unless you consider all beings with a body fallen angels too...

good point. Everything has a positive and negative side and until you discover that for yourself then most people remain ignorant to ideals that they simply cannot comprehend

[superearther]

Compassion? Where may I say, have I not shown mankind any at? Maybe you'd like to re-read this one more time, as in it is more of real service to humanity in anyone, of just one, of my sentences here than what you speak about in all of your fictional make up bull...such as and I ASK YOU ERAD REAL SLOW THIS TIME AROUND...OK? :confused:

There is, now, without question that this Universe was by creation...therefore there had to of been a Creator and it was from The Big Bang as well, which has been dated back some 17.7 Billions years ago now and where there is and was a Big Bang, but no atmosphere yet, still there was and had to of been a Banger...Creator of The Big Bang that is making our Universe forever expanding outward and onward out into infinite space or as it would seem.

Now, as far as a God and evil...well, you, we all, have a conscience that tells us all of good, right, bad and wrong and guess what? You know it...don't you?

To start...You can think of all things as Created by a Super awesome power of our Universe...a Super Natural Spirit Being that we seem to all be made in it's image, as Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost.

Yes, just to start you off, as all of that is true...now, where you take it...is up to you and your own heart and conscience. imo

Oh and we all were not man-made, of course you know that and can understand that, as well...right?


Now, again...Who has the real compassion here...me or your parasite image you seem to like to call me names of? :eek:

you have missed the point. I have lived this experience when i used my pineal gland to see future comings. In condemning me after i was big enough to admit mistake shows you have no compassion. That is not the place for humanity. We need to learn from mistakes and show support to each other rather than pick out like you have.

Love is the key. Your comment to me shows no love just negative emotion.
Have you been conditioned into the sense of being? Maybe you dont even realize outside influences have made you this way. Maybe this comes from inner thought. Either way it is wrong to do so.

As for the universe.....no one truly knows. As for gods yes ascended masters and angelic beings do exist. Past that i cannot say as i havent experienced other auric fields. Religion is false. It stops freedom of thinking and pigeon hole's people into sect groups and a conditioned way of thinking. That is not what we are here for in this solar system. We cannot unite with these thought systems. They only serve to push us further away from each other.

Everything living in this universe is energy. We are ALL connected. The body has no relevance, it is merely a vessel from one form to the next. Thats why it does not matter what anyone looks like and anyone who bases others on appearance lack understanding to what this reality really is.

If you are not a parasite then why latch onto human error?
As for your comment on knowing what is good or bad. That comes from your angelic guides helping you to make decisions. Anytime i get a gut feeling i know i am being helped.

[thespiritforce]

you have missed the point. I have lived this experience when i used my pineal gland to see future comings. In condemning me after i was big enough to admit mistake shows you have no compassion. That is not the place for humanity. We need to learn from mistakes and show support to each other rather than pick out like you have.

Love is the key. Your comment to me shows no love just negative emotion.
Have you been conditioned into the sense of being? Maybe you dont even realize outside influences have made you this way. Maybe this comes from inner thought. Either way it is wrong to do so.

As for the universe.....no one truly knows. As for gods yes ascended masters and angelic beings do exist. Past that i cannot say as i havent experienced other auric fields. Religion is false. It stops freedom of thinking and pigeon hole's people into sect groups and a conditioned way of thinking. That is not what we are here for in this solar system. We cannot unite with these thought systems. They only serve to push us further away from each other.

Everything living in this universe is energy. We are ALL connected. The body has no relevance, it is merely a vessel from one form to the next. Thats why it does not matter what anyone looks like and anyone who bases others on appearance lack understanding to what this reality really is.

If you are not a parasite then why latch onto human error?
As for your comment on knowing what is good or bad. That comes from your angelic guides helping you to make decisions. Anytime i get a gut feeling i know i am being helped.

I am afraid you are the parasite trying to latch onto knowing something...about anything, as you say and claim this BS..."As for gods yes ascended masters and angelic beings do exist." Here is the news for you...there is but only one God on high and He is my God, as He is everyones, as well...your gods are fake and made-up bull and you will know death for postulating such things.

So, now all knowing master of nothing nor anyone...how many Gods did it take to ignite The Big Bang Theory? Here, I'll tel ya...one, as in the same one we all made in His image of and yes it is true we all are connected, as in one, as in Spiritual ways because we all are Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost and all connected, as well, within the consciousness world of oneness.

Oh and another thing for you to know is I can prove everything I say and claim...you? You can only talk about what you think it might be and all about. So again, talk all that BS all you want, as we all know talk is cheap, as in a dime on every corner and if you think I am going to give you some pity when you are leading people in the wrong directions...better think again! Sheesh! :rolleyes:

God says, "if it offends you...cut it off"...consider yourself cutoff! We have nothing further to say to each other...so, DON'T! And may God have mercy on your poor lost soul and it's not souls either.

[christ4life]

I wouldn't view them as space aliens. The logical explanation is they are interdimensional beings that don't have form. Angels, God, and Demons don't have to be on another planet. They can exist in another dimension, and travel through vortexes to get to us. The spiritual is not a physical manifestation. These fallen angels which became demons can change their appearance depending on the viewer. Their is no surprise to me that these aliens were once called trolls, leprechauns, gnomes, elves, fairies, gremlins, brownies, and looked at as Gods to the ancient world. They change with the times but they are the same beings. They are what I call masters of illusion they can make statues cry tears, and make you think a flying saucer is a solid vehicle but some are an illusion it isn't always manifested as a solid object.

[superearther]

I am afraid you are the parasite trying to latch onto knowing something...about anything, as you say and claim this BS..."As for gods yes ascended masters and angelic beings do exist." Here is the news for you...there is but only one God on high and He is my God, as He is everyones, as well...your gods are fake and made-up bull and you will know death for postulating such things.

So, now all knowing master of nothing nor anyone...how many Gods did it take to ignite The Big Bang Theory? Here, I'll tel ya...one, as in the same one we all made in His image of and yes it is true we all are connected, as in one, as in Spiritual ways because we all are Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost and all connected, as well, within the consciousness world of oneness.

Oh and another thing for you to know is I can prove everything I say and claim...you? You can only talk about what you think it might be and all about. So again, talk all that BS all you want, as we all know talk is cheap, as in a dime on every corner and if you think I am going to give you some pity when you are leading people in the wrong directions...better think again! Sheesh! :rolleyes:

God says, "if it offends you...cut it off"...consider yourself cutoff! We have nothing further to say to each other...so, DON'T! And may God have mercy on your poor lost soul and it's not souls either.

tell me where did i latch onto negative thinking towards you? Your points tell me you look at outside sources rather than looking inwardly. My gods? You sit there and suggest angelic beings/ascended masters do not exist? Go tell that to thoth and babaji.......

I will know death? Yet more in-compassionate thought from your being.
That is not how this universe was planned. You confuse gods with science....
A god cant exist from nothingness. Your religious conditioning and false reality are for all to see....

[thespiritforce]

tell me where did i latch onto negative thinking towards you? Your points tell me you look at outside sources rather than looking inwardly. My gods? You sit there and suggest angelic beings/ascended masters do not exist? Go tell that to thoth and babaji.......

I will know death? Yet more in-compassionate thought from your being.
That is not how this universe was planned. You confuse gods with science....
A god cant exist from nothingness. Your religious conditioning and false reality are for all to see....

You know bub...you can't even read something right and if you and your cartoon gods thoth and babaji...whom don't even deserve capital headings...is what you want to die and know of death with...so be it as you will, but to try and lead others to your death is just so wrong in every way. May God truly have mercy on your poor nonsensical soul and if anyone listens to this garbage and actually believes this BS that this one spews all over message boards everywhere, I am sure, may they also know of God's mercy and love for them.

We all know what is good and right, bad and wrong...so, you have no excuse to follow this bull or believe anything it says, as you know.

Don't bother to reply...just do me a favor and beg God to forgive you!

[thespiritforce]

I wouldn't view them as space aliens. The logical explanation is they are interdimensional beings that don't have form. Angels, God, and Demons don't have to be on another planet. They can exist in another dimension, and travel through vortexes to get to us. The spiritual is not a physical manifestation. These fallen angels which became demons can change their appearance depending on the viewer. Their is no surprise to me that these aliens were once called trolls, leprechauns, gnomes, elves, fairies, gremlins, brownies, and looked at as Gods to the ancient world. They change with the times but they are the same beings. They are what I call masters of illusion they can make statues cry tears, and make you think a flying saucer is a solid vehicle but some are an illusion it isn't always manifested as a solid object.

You can view everything of and in life, as Alien because everything has came from our Universe, in and of, which our God, on high, is the Creator of and to speak of someone or something has traveled or does through vortexes...is only your guess and please don't act like you know...OK?

[superearther]

You know bub...you can't even read something right and if you and your cartoon gods thoth and babaji...whom don't even deserve capital headings...is what you want to die and know of death with...so be it as you will, but to try and lead others to your death is just so wrong in every way. May God truly have mercy on your poor nonsensical soul and if anyone listens to this garbage and actually believes this BS that this one spews all over message boards everywhere, I am sure, may they also know of God's mercy and love for them.

We all know what is good and right, bad and wrong...so, you have no excuse to follow this bull or believe anything it says, as you know.

Don't bother to reply...just do me a favor and beg God to forgive you!

gods? I said they were ascended masters........death isnt a reality. If you come to the realization that we a energy then you wouldnt be typing this garbage.

I will ask again where did i latch onto negative thinking like you did?
You continue this uninspiring cycle by showing your non compassionate ego about this talk of death. Yet again you show you really dont know what it means to be human. You showed no compassion when i was big enough to admit a mistake and you continue this predictable garbage.

Yet again you continue not to realize your own failings. Yet again you look at outside sources when its you thats the problem. You feed from this negative outlook and think you know god? Yet more evidence that your a conditioned brainwashed puppet that will never know how to move on and you will never know how to be human.

dont bother to what? Who are you to oppress me? Very fascist ideals indeed.
human, in compassionate, parasite. Does your god tell you to bring death and show no compassion and to feed from others like a parasite?

[thespiritforce]

tell me where did i latch onto negative thinking towards you? Your points tell me you look at outside sources rather than looking inwardly. My gods? You sit there and suggest angelic beings/ascended masters do not exist? Go tell that to thoth and babaji.......

I will know death? Yet more in-compassionate thought from your being.
That is not how this universe was planned. You confuse gods with science....
A god cant exist from nothingness. Your religious conditioning and false reality are for all to see....

Here, crap for brains...I said, "I am afraid you are the parasite trying to latch onto knowing something...about anything!" I NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT YOU LATCHING ONTO ANYTHING ELSE...IN WHICH YOU SEEM TO HAVE A HARD TIME IN DOING, AS FAR, AS MENAING GOES. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH, PARASITE OF THRUTH...AND STOP TAKING MY WORDS OUR OF THEIR CORRECT CONTEXT, AS WELL! :rolleyes:

And right here, as well, I said in so many words...that we all are one and connected as in also with this consciousness world of one, as IN ALL ENERGY, AS THERE IS NOTHING HERE, BUT US AND ENERGY AND WE TOO ARE ENERGY AND NOT THIS PHYSICAL BODY THAT HOUSES THE MACHINE INSIDE THE MACHINE OR OUR SPIRIT BEING AND OR LIVING GHOST...EVERYTHING YOU SEE, HEAR, TOUCH, TASTE AND SMELL IS ALL INSIDE YOUR OWN HEAD...IT'S ALL AN ILLUSION OF THIS GOD'S HOLDECK OR WHAT BETTER SOME MIGHT KNOW IT AS THE MATRIX OF GOD'S! So, when you say if I could just understand we are all of ENERGY...HERE IS THE NEWS OF THAT ONE...I AM THE FOREMOST LEADING ATHORITY IN OUT WORLD TODAY ABOUT WHO WE ALL ARE AND MADE UP OF, AS IN A SPIRIT FORCE OF ENERGY...MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE! TRUTH! BECAUSE I CAN PROVE IT AND YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE TO ME OR ANYONE ELSE, FOR THAT MATTER, YOU EVEN EXIST...NOW, CAN YOU? :eek:

You will know death because of your lying gods or these so called masters of nothing you claim...and also...calling me a parasite is being negative...now, known liar...is that not the truth?:eek:

Now, Go tell that to thoth and babaji...AND HOW YOU LIE...SO! shut up and go away...liar! :rolleyes:

You know, of course...once caught in any lie...you are never to be believed in anything else you might ever say in our world today...you know that...don't you, as that also will hold up in any court around the world, as well. You are to us all...that are all connected within you, I am afraid...an...:o

[superearther]

Here, crap for brains...I said, "I am afraid you are the parasite trying to latch onto knowing something...about anything!" I NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT YOU LATCHING ONTO ANYTHING ELSE...IN WHICH YOU SEEM TO HAVE A HARD TIME IN DOING, AS FAR, AS MENAING GOES. STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH, PARASITE OF THRUTH...AND STOP TAKING MY WORDS OUR OF THEIR CORRECT CONTEXT, AS WELL! :rolleyes:

And right here, as well, I said in so many words...that we all are one and connected as in also with this consciousness world of one, as IN ALL ENERGY, AS THERE IS NOTHING HERE, BUT US AND ENERGY AND WE TOO ARE ENERGY AND NOT THIS PHYSICAL BODY THAT HOUSES THE MACHINE INSIDE THE MACHINE OR OUR SPIRIT BEING AND OR LIVING GHOST...EVERYTHING YOU SEE, HEAR, TOUCH, TASTE AND SMELL IS ALL INSIDE YOUR OWN HEAD...IT'S ALL AN ILLUSION OF THIS GOD'S HOLDECK OR WHAT BETTER SOME MIGHT KNOW IT AS THE MATRIX OF GOD'S! So, when you say if I could just understand we are all of ENERGY...HERE IS THE NEWS OF THAT ONE...I AM THE FOREMOST LEADING ATHORITY IN OUT WORLD TODAY ABOUT WHO WE ALL ARE AND MADE UP OF, AS IN A SPIRIT FORCE OF ENERGY...MADE IN GOD'S IMAGE! TRUTH! BECAUSE I CAN PROVE IT AND YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE TO ME OR ANYONE ELSE, FOR THAT MATTER, YOU EVEN EXIST...NOW, CAN YOU? :eek:

You will know death because of your lying gods or these so called masters of nothing you claim...and also...calling me a parasite is being negative...now, known liar...is that not the truth?:eek:

Now, Go tell that to thoth and babaji...AND HOW YOU LIE...SO! shut up and go away...liar! :rolleyes:

You know, of course...once caught in any lie...you are never to be believed in anything else you might ever say in our world today...you know that...don't you, as that also will hold up in any court around the world, as well. You are to us all...that are all connected within you, I am afraid...an...:o


you accused me of being a parasite......Lies? You know plenty. Did i ask you to comment in a non compassionate manner to my comment? DID I? The rest of your post is based on conditioned programmed lunacy...

I will ask the following questions again as you evaded them last time

"gods? I said they were ascended masters........death isnt a reality. If you come to the realization that we a energy then you wouldnt be typing this garbage."

"I will ask again where did i latch onto negative thinking like you did?"

"You showed no compassion when i was big enough to admit a mistake"

"you continue not to realize your own failings. Yet again you look at outside sources when its you thats the problem"

"dont bother to what? Who are you to oppress me? Very fascist ideals indeed.
human, in compassionate, parasite. Does your god tell you to bring death and show no compassion and to feed from others like a parasite?"

[lyricusmagna]

I wouldn't view them as space aliens. The logical explanation is they are interdimensional beings that don't have form.

Actually, most of them have quite a solid form, like you and me.

Angels, God, and Demons don't have to be on another planet. They can exist in another dimension, and travel through vortexes to get to us.

Angels don't exist. Demons don't exist. God doesn't exist. All of these do not exist in the biblical sense. Aliens do exist. Its a fact.

You are right though, that some beings come from other planes of existence, and they don't always have to have a solid form. But that's another story.

The spiritual is not a physical manifestation. These fallen angels which became demons can change their appearance depending on the viewer.

Angels, according to the Bible can also change appearance. Just like demons. How do you make the difference between demons and angels then?

Their is no surprise to me that these aliens were once called trolls, leprechauns, gnomes, elves, fairies, gremlins, brownies, and looked at as Gods to the ancient world.

Oh ... really? Where was God and his angels then to react to that and inform people on the fallen angels' games? Taking a vacation in paradise?

They change with the times but they are the same beings. They are what I call masters of illusion they can make statues cry tears, and make you think a flying saucer is a solid vehicle but some are an illusion it isn't always manifested as a solid object.

Actually, there have been quite enough crashes of alien craft where people have experimented with that - quite physical technology.

Also, what is the purpose of other planets, star systems, or even galaxies? If other life forms like ours do not exist? Either we are in a universal episode of Punk'd, performed by God, and we don't seem to get his joke, or God is dumb enough to waste such an enormous amount of space and create things that have no use, or God simply does not exist. No other theory exists.

[deadhawk]

aliens pretending to be gods
demons pretending to be aliens

or is it people :eek:
pretending to be both?

[ragnarok]

To claim there are "angels", nevermind "Fallen" ones, presupposes that there is a Divine Creator, which as far as I was aware, hasn't quite been proved.

Maybe I missed a memo? If so, can someone update me?

[kingmob]

Angels....LOL. Fallen Angels....Double LOL.

The comic relief is what brings me back, otherwise I probably would have bolted.

[thespiritforce]

Angels....LOL. Fallen Angels....Double LOL.

The comic relief is what brings me back, otherwise I probably would have bolted.

Yeah, there are no Angels or even evil ones, no God and no creation, but wait they have proven there was a Big Bang Theory...thus and therefore there must have been a banger = God, but it is evil that sooooooo wants you to not believe and have sooooooo much fun with your evil ways and all and you will never have to pay for your misdeeds, so, be gay and live it up...time grows short, as these are our last days as we know them to be and all that have been made a fool of and act very foolish will pay for all eternity, as we all will live for all eternity, as we all are Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost and it is I that can prove who we all are, as in such Spirit Beings made in God's image, but you have a free will and choice to believe and do whatever it is you will believe and do and we all have a conscience, as well, as it speaks to everyone of you to not listen or to maybe you had better listen and know the truth of it all, as we all are playing in this The Game of Life where we all will be winners or losers and have but only in the blink of an eye to get it right or not, as in comparison to our earth's life span of some 4.5 billion years old now, but what is both time and space to God...nothing, as He is the past and the future of all energy that there is, as there is nothing here, but US & Energy, which we all are of anyway and not even one of you can even prove you even exist, as far, as you know, you are in some Aliens jar hooked up to it's PC running all electrical signals going to your very loose brains of everything you see, hear, touch, taste and smell...now, ain't that right? And here is your LOL...:eek:

YES, WAKE UP, AS YOU WILL SOON ENEOUGH IN THE GREAT SPIRITUAL AWAKENING!...That is coming for us all to know and not live by mere faith alone...then where will you be...still lost?:rolleyes:

PS...Please bolt and not try and mislead others into their death for all Eternity...Thanks! Yes, What do you know...nothing, but nothing on top of more nothing? So glad you find life very amusing to you...NOT!...You must be a joke upon your ownself, as you laugh at your ownself. :confused:

[mikel84]

first of all there are no such thing as aliens
second, as a religious person I do not welcome you tying together a cult of false prophets to anything related to religion
stay out infiltrators

[stopthemadness]

The serpent's tongue is spewing its venom yet again. For those who need answers,

There is a true creator. Call him God if you like.

There are angels & fallen ones.

There are extra-terrestrials (more than you can imagine).

All of the above are different from each other.

"Aliens" are not fallen angels. They are simply third dimensional entities as are humans. Fallen angels are here to serve a greater purpose. Even they do not realize the importance of their work. Some would call them demons or Jinn or devils. They are, in fact, necessary role players. Some ET's do have higher dimensions at their disposal for transportation & telepathy.

If you insist on a hierarchy to visualize it then it would be:

God, the creator
then the Council in the High
then angels
then higher dimensional ET's
then fallen ones
then 3D ET's & humans
then lower entities (elementals, hell-bound souls, etc.)

Those who deny the Creator have never truly searched for him. When their time comes their views will change.

[mikel84]

aliens pretending to be gods
demons pretending to be aliens

or is it people :eek:
pretending to be both?

exactly
there are no angels or fallen angels, there is no satan or lucifer

there is one true supreme lord

[superearther]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYPG3a_8JkM

[kingmob]

Yeah, there are no Angels or even evil ones, no God and no creation, but wait they have proven there was a Big Bang Theory...thus and therefore there must have been a banger = God, but it is evil that sooooooo wants you to not believe and have sooooooo much fun with your evil ways and all and you will never have to pay for your misdeeds, so, be gay and live it up...time grows short, as these are our last days as we know them to be and all that have been made a fool of and act very foolish will pay for all eternity, as we all will live for all eternity, as we all are Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost and it is I that can prove who we all are, as in such Spirit Beings made in God's image, but you have a free will and choice to believe and do whatever it is you will believe and do and we all have a conscience, as well, as it speaks to everyone of you to not listen or to maybe you had better listen and know the truth of it all, as we all are playing in this The Game of Life where we all will be winners or losers and have but only in the blink of an eye to get it right or not, as in comparison to our earth's life span of some 4.5 billion years old now, but what is both time and space to God...nothing, as He is the past and the future of all energy that there is, as there is nothing here, but US & Energy, which we all are of anyway and not even one of you can even prove you even exist, as far, as you know, you are in some Aliens jar hooked up to it's PC running all electrical signals going to your very loose brains of everything you see, hear, touch, taste and smell...now, ain't that right? And here is your LOL...:eek:

YES, WAKE UP, AS YOU WILL SOON ENEOUGH IN THE GREAT SPIRITUAL AWAKENING!...That is coming for us all to know and not live by mere faith alone...then where will you be...still lost?:rolleyes:

PS...Please bolt and not try and mislead others into their death for all Eternity...Thanks! Yes, What do you know...nothing, but nothing on top of more nothing? So glad you find life very amusing to you...NOT!...You must be a joke upon your ownself, as you laugh at your ownself. :confused:

LMAO. You are an awesome comedian. Thank you.

You do need to replace your avatar though for added effect to this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/SYKdxjPeFFI/AAAAAAAAHTc/44VdhAn6Sl0/s400/jesus+dog+ass.jpg

[thespiritforce]

LMAO. You are an awesome comedian. Thank you.

You do need to replace your avatar though for added effect to this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/SYKdxjPeFFI/AAAAAAAAHTc/44VdhAn6Sl0/s400/jesus+dog+ass.jpg

You're the ass, dumbarse...but do show us all how dumb an ass you really are and prove to us all you even exist...now, you can do that...can't you, dumbarse? LMFAO! :eek:

DO IT ARSEHOLE! DO IT! & HERE'S THE NEWS SH-T FOR BRAINS...YOU CAN'T, BUT I CAN...LIKE DUH! LOL! :D

You're so dumb...it's not even funny anymore....actually it's quite sad, as you are a sad case indeed...very sad case.:rolleyes:

Oh! & your Avatar is so inspirational...NOT! You need to change it to who you are...Oh but wait you did!...A walking, breathing middle finger, what a firggin joke you are and have been for some time now, I am sure! & SICK TOO!....LMFAO!!

Also, you will be gald to know...it is I that is The Alien, as we all are, as we all have came from outer space...of this our Universe...that has your sorry arse half-brain-dead-head in my Glass Jar sitting right here beside me and hooked up to my PC feeding all your electrical signals to your sorry half-brain-dead-head of what all you see, hear, touch, taste and smell and if you don't shut up I might PULL THE PLUG ON YOUR SORRY HALF-ASS-BRAIN-DEAD-HEAD of little to no use to anyone other than this experiment I have been running on you ever since you was born...DIRT FOR BRAINS!!:eek: LMFAO&AIROTF...ABOUT YOUR STUPIDNESS AND IGNORANCE. LOL!

[christ4life]

You can view everything of and in life, as Alien because everything has came from our Universe, in and of, which our God, on high, is the Creator of and to speak of someone or something has traveled or does through vortexes...is only your guess and please don't act like you know...OK?

I won't say I know for sure but I will say I have seen some things you won't even believe.

[christ4life]

Actually, most of them have quite a solid form, like you and me.

True they can sometimes.



Angels don't exist. Demons don't exist. God doesn't exist. All of these do not exist in the biblical sense. Aliens do exist. Its a fact.

They may exist but do you believe everything someone tells you just because they appear to have been from somewhere else.

You are right though, that some beings come from other planes of existence, and they don't always have to have a solid form. But that's another story.



Angels, according to the Bible can also change appearance. Just like demons. How do you make the difference between demons and angels then?

You have disernment.



Oh ... really? Where was God and his angels then to react to that and inform people on the fallen angels' games? Taking a vacation in paradise?

How do you know if people knew the truth, or not?


Actually, there have been quite enough crashes of alien craft where people have experimented with that - quite physical technology.

I didn't say all were not physical but some are.

Also, what is the purpose of other planets, star systems, or even galaxies? If other life forms like ours do not exist? Either we are in a universal episode of Punk'd, performed by God, and we don't seem to get his joke, or God is dumb enough to waste such an enormous amount of space and create things that have no use, or God simply does not exist. No other theory exists.

I don't know why God did things. What I do know is it doesn't make sense for aliens to come here saying they need us in order to survive if they are much more superior than us. I couldn't edit your questions so I answered them in the above post.

[lyricusmagna]

I don't know why God did things. What I do know is it doesn't make sense for aliens to come here saying they need us in order to survive if they are much more superior than us. I couldn't edit your questions so I answered them in the above post.

Well, not all do. And it's usually the hostile ones.

[theperceivingeye]

Well, not all do. And it's usually the hostile ones.

And the good ones are off doing what, exactly? Meditating for Cosmic Peace? Wouldn't they get 'points' w/ the creator for helping us out? Most 'channeled' lit. I have read assumes that they would be in violation of some divine/cosmic law (good E.T.s) to come and take out the Illuminati, etc. But they don't and haven't and prolly never will...

Me thinks that we huemans are a lot more powerful than we give ourselves credit for, and we are waiting in vain...

[lyricusmagna]

And the good ones are off doing what, exactly? Meditating for Cosmic Peace? Wouldn't they get 'points' w/ the creator for helping us out? Most 'channeled' lit. I have read assumes that they would be in violation of some divine/cosmic law (good E.T.s) to come and take out the Illuminati, etc. But they don't and haven't and prolly never will...

Me thinks that we huemans are a lot more powerful than we give ourselves credit for, and we are waiting in vain...

Those I contact don't believe in a Creator. Not all of them anyway.

They do intervene, but not officially and on public view.

[thespiritforce]

I won't say I know for sure but I will say I have seen some things you won't even believe.

I'd like to hear of these things and if you don't maybe want to share it on a message board like this...you can e-mail me at TheSpiritForce@gmail.com and I don't know for sure either and I too have seen many things that you too would not believe, but I can prove of somethings of The Super Natural and or of The Paranormal...if you will because we all are, as made in His image...which makes it so and possible and as we both are believers in Christ and know what it is we must do and be...we have lots in common I am sure and maybe we could and can share what all we know of and about as in the power of The Holy Ghost, as I have many of many ways that prove of such at work, as it only can be and I myself would love to share what all I know and have learned over the many years now, as to real life experiences, as with only someone of the same beliefs as I think we have a lot of...maybe.

Ron D...The Spirit Force, as you are too and it is I that can prove that you are, as well, as I can I...if you'd like to know and even see for yourself, that is, as you can know and see, as not only is it possible for one to create his or her own reality but also the reality everyone else sees and experiences, as well and of what also I can prove and even have but been given the run around on and about it all, as it will empower you and well, they can't have that...now, can they? :cool:

But, whatever, as that all is up to you...I think. :)

Oh! and also I could use some help in my work that has been claimed to be very important by even some of fame and stolen by some of Professor type, as well, at The Rhine Research Center...until I mentioned plagiarism and they took it back and down, but I do believe that if any 2 really believe that anything is possible, as it is written...so, jump on board if you like and we will shake up the world and stand physics on it's head, while at it. :D

E-mail for more and greater details in and of it all, as I have so much of my work in my writings and all and can show you many of many things of who we all are, as in Spirit Beings and or Living Ghost with real empowerment and I also have a 24 Hour Test of Discernment of when God is speaking to you or when evil is, as within your own conscience...that will show you even how much evil and God are both in your life, as you will not believe how much for real and or you will be totally shocked of what all you will find out about even your ownself...if you will and want to know, that is, as it really does work and many have tried it and will tell you how much they were totally amazed at how much evil was in their life they didn't even have a clue that there was that much within them, as in them and running their lives they didn't even know about, as to the extent, that is. TY Ron

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[king triad]

Those I contact don't believe in a Creator. Not all of them anyway.

They do intervene, but not officially and on public view.

The Nordics have kept the reptilians and greys from invading the planet..that's all the help you get..

[theperceivingeye]

The Nordics have kept the reptilians and greys from invading the planet..that's all the help you get..

See, this is exactly the kind of thing that makes me think the whole UFO Contact/ET/Space Brothers/Extraterrestrials thing is just one big mindfuck gov't psyop designed to keep us chasing rabbit trails... Not say you are wrong king triad or anyone else on this site who claims to be contacting ETs for that matter I am just saying that when you have multiple people, websites, think-tanks etc. all putting forth different pieces of the puzzle and sometimes completely contradictory info makes things very confusing indeed. But the truth must out...

[lyricusmagna]

The Nordics have kept the reptilians and greys from invading the planet..that's all the help you get..

How do you explain those inside the planet?

[thespiritforce]

How do you explain those inside the planet?

Oh my God..tell the Nordicks thanks for saving us all...sheesh! :rolleyes:

[lyricusmagna]

Oh my God..tell the Nordicks thanks for saving us all...sheesh! :rolleyes:

I will, in October.

[kingmob]

You're the ass, dumbarse...but do show us all how dumb an ass you really are and prove to us all you even exist...now, you can do that...can't you, dumbarse? LMFAO! :eek:

DO IT ARSEHOLE! DO IT! & HERE'S THE NEWS SH-T FOR BRAINS...YOU CAN'T, BUT I CAN...LIKE DUH! LOL! :D

You're so dumb...it's not even funny anymore....actually it's quite sad, as you are a sad case indeed...very sad case.:rolleyes:

Oh! & your Avatar is so inspirational...NOT! You need to change it to who you are...Oh but wait you did!...A walking, breathing middle finger, what a firggin joke you are and have been for some time now, I am sure! & SICK TOO!....LMFAO!!

Also, you will be gald to know...it is I that is The Alien, as we all are, as we all have came from outer space...of this our Universe...that has your sorry arse half-brain-dead-head in my Glass Jar sitting right here beside me and hooked up to my PC feeding all your electrical signals to your sorry half-brain-dead-head of what all you see, hear, touch, taste and smell and if you don't shut up I might PULL THE PLUG ON YOUR SORRY HALF-ASS-BRAIN-DEAD-HEAD of little to no use to anyone other than this experiment I have been running on you ever since you was born...DIRT FOR BRAINS!!:eek: LMFAO&AIROTF...ABOUT YOUR STUPIDNESS AND IGNORANCE. LOL!

Bwahahaha. keep it going. Calling me ignorant.....Bwhahahaha. Thanks for another laugh.

[thespiritforce]

Bwahahaha. keep it going. Calling me ignorant.....Bwhahahaha. Thanks for another laugh.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL...TOLD YOU...YOU STUPID PIECE OF CRAP YOU CAN'T...YOU FRIGGIN DUMBARSE! NOW, GO LAUGH THAT OFF...STUPID DUMBARSE! & WHY YOU CRYING FOR...BECAUSE YOU ARE SO STUPID YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE YOU EVEN EXIST? WHICH YOUR SORRY DUMBARSE KNOWS IT CAN'T, BUT I CAN!: :eek:

[B]HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HEE....YOU'RE SO DUMB AND STUPID THAT TRYS TO ACT LIKE IT KNOWS SOMETHING AND CAN'T EVEN FRIGGIN PROVES IT EVEN EXIST AS I SAID...NOW...TELL US ALL, HOW DANG DUMB ARE YOU ANYWAY...LAUGHY BOY? LOL![B] I KNOW...DUMBER THAN DUMB AND GUESS WHAT ELSE? IT SHOWS! LOL!! HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HEE!!!!

[pound]

Are you okay? :o

[kingmob]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL...TOLD YOU...YOU STUPID PIECE OF CRAP YOU CAN'T...YOU FRIGGIN DUMBARSE! NOW, GO LAUGH THAT OFF...STUPID DUMBARSE! & WHY YOU CRYING FOR...BECAUSE YOU ARE SO STUPID YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE YOU EVEN EXIST? WHICH YOUR SORRY DUMBARSE KNOWS IT CAN'T, BUT I CAN!: :eek:

[B]HA HA HA HA HA HO HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HEE....YOU'RE SO DUMB AND STUPID THAT TRYS TO ACT LIKE IT KNOWS SOMETHING AND CAN'T EVEN FRIGGIN PROVES IT EVEN EXIST AS I SAID...NOW...TELL US ALL, HOW DANG DUMB ARE YOU ANYWAY...LAUGHY BOY? LOL![B] I KNOW...DUMBER THAN DUMB AND GUESS WHAT ELSE? IT SHOWS! LOL!! HA HA HA HO HO HO HEE HEE HEE HEE!!!!

OMG.....This is so awesome. God Bless the mentally handicapped :D

[lyricusmagna]

Somebody definitely lost a nerve ....





... Or two ....





*blinks repeatedly at the bizarre text* :confused:

[rhydra]

Too many different sizes of text, impossible to read.

[thespiritforce]

OMG.....This is so awesome. God Bless the mentally handicapped :D

But, you're sooooo dang dumb...I have to show it, that you are, when you claim to be so smart, dumber than dumb. lol!

And may God help you from becoming sooooo mentally challenged, as you seem to be and to be quite frank, are! Sheesh, dumbarse...you started the dumb crap...dumbarse! And take that middle finger of yours and stick it in your foul mouth, as there is no telling where it's been and I am sure it will taste real good...lol! :eek:

Now, shut up and go away and play with your middle finger...crap for brains...lol! :rolleyes:

[lyricusmagna]

Is there such a thing as Fallen Human? I guess there is - when their brain processes fail.

I kinda noticed examples of it in this thread.

[kingmob]

Is there such a thing as Fallen Human? I guess there is - when their brain processes fail.

I kinda noticed examples of it in this thread.

There is a fallen human right above your post....very noticeable. Must have hit his head very hard, when he/she hit the ground.

Unfortunately, this forum is polluted with these types these days.

[sh3lly]

Are you okay? :o

lol

[sh3lly]

I will, in October.
You can tell them they are free to contact me anytime. ;)

I wish. :rolleyes:

lol :p

[lyricusmagna]

You can tell them they are free to contact me anytime. ;)

I wish. :rolleyes:

lol :p

I will send the word :D

Seriously - I'll see if I can do something about it.

[lyricusmagna]

There is a fallen human right above your post....very noticeable. Must have hit his head very hard, when he/she hit the ground.

Unfortunately, this forum is polluted with these types these days.

Guess who I was referring to in my post anyways? lol :D

[kingmob]

Guess who I was referring to in my post anyways? lol :D

Me? Oh no, lol

[thespiritforce]

LMAO. You are an awesome comedian. Thank you.

You do need to replace your avatar though for added effect to this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kXnVoQ9ZFkQ/SYKdxjPeFFI/AAAAAAAAHTc/44VdhAn6Sl0/s400/jesus+dog+ass.jpg

you're the Sick arse! :rolleyes:

[thespiritforce]

Me? Oh no, lol

YEAH YOU...JUST LOOK ABOVE WHAT YOU LEFT US ALL TO SEE...SICK ARSE!

And it WAS YOU THAT SAID, YOU ONLY COME BACK HERE ONCE IN AWHILE TO GET A GOOD LAUGH...

YEAH! HE's LAUGHING AT YOU ALL...AND SAID SO...DUMBER THAN DUMB!:rolleyes:

[thespiritforce]

Angels....LOL. Fallen Angels....Double LOL.

The comic relief is what brings me back, otherwise I probably would have bolted.

Yes, we can see why he is here and it is to laugh at you guys, as he says so right there up above, but evil is the great Trickster and creator of doubt as it will tell you there is no evil nor any fallen Angels...SO, LIVE IT UP...BE BAD...LAUGH IT ALL UP and ALL CAN END UP IN DEATH LIKE THIS ONE WILL SURELY BECOME...WHEN YOU CAN LIVE FOR ALL ETERNITY, AS A BELIEVER IN AND OF GOD ON HIGH, AS HE IS. BUT IT IS EVIL THAT DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW AND TO STEEL YOUR VERY SOUL AS IT USES OTHERS TO DO SO, AS WE CAN PLAINLY SEE WITH THIS ONE AND HIS MIDDLE FINGER TO YOU ALL! and you guys don't even see through this one that is laughing at you all! :eek:

[thespiritforce]

Angels....LOL. Fallen Angels....Double LOL.

The comic relief is what brings me back, otherwise I probably would have bolted.

YES! It seems you are the only one, here, that's in the dark about it all and YOU are truly dumber than dumb if you think we are the stupid one's and you're not, as your own words speak for themselves...dumbass! lol :rolleyes:

My God, how dang dumb are you anyway? There dumber than dumb & middle finger to everyone you seem to like to laugh at, also...:eek:

We are soooo glad you've came back to have a real good laugh at our expense...we just all feel soooooo blessed also...NOT! :p

[thespiritforce]

Me? Oh no, lol

ME? OH NO! PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE ME, YEAH, IT'S YOU THAT'S DUMBER THAN DUMB, AS YOU LIKE TO SHOW IT AND DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU ARE AND AM BEING SO DUMB WHEN YOU ARE AND AM...SHEESH! A DUMBARSE...GET A LIFE AND STOP LAUGHING AT PEOPLE WHEN YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT IS FUNNY ACTING LIKE SOMEKIND OF A DUMBASS!:eek:

[lyricusmagna]

Me? Oh no, lol

Nah, guess again! :D

[kingmob]

Nah, guess again! :D

I wasn't losing any sleep over this, but its good to know, hehe.

The "Fallen Human" has graced us with their presence once again, and I'm laughing even harder.

[lyricusmagna]

I wasn't losing any sleep over this, but its good to know, hehe.

The "Fallen Human" has graced us with their presence once again, and I'm laughing even harder.

Some of the posts sound like somebody has lost their mind definitely.

I mean, the sheer anger! Its amazing :D

[kingmob]

Some of the posts sound like somebody has lost their mind definitely.

I mean, the sheer anger! Its amazing :D

My one liners must be really agonizing.....:o

All I do is laugh when i log in.

[thespiritforce]

My one liners must be really agonizing.....:o

All I do is laugh when i log in.

I'm laughing my arse off, myself, at you too! lol:D

Not only are you, one for real, a stone cold dumbarse, but a funny ha ha, jokie boy, as well... as we can all see life must be such a total joke to and for you...sad! Sad indeed. :confused:

Yeah, about one liners is about all you can muster up in and of anything of your non-intelligent, numb-skulled mindless wonder....don't strain that tiny brain of yours, to hard, coming up with all them one-liners of non-sense or it might fall out. lol :rolleyes:

You can talk to your funny ha ha in life boy, as well and you both can laugh it up till the day you meet death! Yeah, life is all just a joke and you show that you are, at least, but to be a dumbarse on top of being a joke...is just to much even for me to try and make sense of...good riddance! :rolleyes:

[kingmob]

Here is another one for you....LOL, thank you. If I could I would tip you with a $, you deserve it. 5 star handicapped clown.

[thespiritforce]

Here is another one for you....LOL, thank you. If I could I would tip you with a $, you deserve it. 5 star handicapped clown.

Man!...are you ever lost, goofy comes to mind with you...besides a dumbarse.:rolleyes:

[kingmob]

Handicapped, Retarded, Delusional, Depressed, Suicidal stupid, ignorant, comical, clown comes to mind for you,. Fallen Human. Bwhahahah.

[thespiritforce]

Handicapped, Retarded, Delusional, Depressed, Suicidal stupid, ignorant, comical, clown comes to mind for you,. Fallen Human. Bwhahahah.

You really are experiencing some hatred emotional problems...this is getting real sad. :(

[kingmob]

You really are experiencing some hatred emotional problems...this is getting real sad. :(

Bwhahahahahah. I'm experiencing hatred emotional problems.....Bwhahahhah. Thanks clown.

[jdierbeck]

I've argued this topic with Sherry Shriner, who also demonizes angels as an agenda, ignoring that the Lord arrives "with his mighty angels" in 2 Thess 1:7, and the angels remove the evilest in the end times in Matt 13:49-50.

Tom Horn points out that only 200 of the "sons of God" came down to mount Hermon "fallen" to earth, as in Genesis 6:2-4... not ALL the "sons of God". They were here before man at the beginning in Job 38:5-7.

It's establishment agenda to demonize anything alien, not the Bible agenda (see John 5:4).

[lyricusmagna]

I've argued this topic with Sherry Shriner, who also demonizes angels as an agenda, ignoring that the Lord arrives "with his mighty angels" in 2 Thess 1:7, and the angels remove the evilest in the end times in Matt 13:49-50.

Tom Horn points out that only 200 of the "sons of God" came down to mount Hermon "fallen" to earth, as in Genesis 6:2-4... not ALL the "sons of God". They were here before man at the beginning in Job 38:5-7.

It's establishment agenda to demonize anything alien, not the Bible agenda (see John 5:4).

+1

[thespiritforce]

Bwhahahahahah. I'm experiencing hatred emotional problems.....Bwhahahhah. Thanks clown.

I strongly suggest you seek psychiatric help...if not for yourself, maybe for anyone that might think of you...any at all...or maybe somewhat highly, especially if you have children. This is getting real sad, indeed, of and about you!

And it's, always, the one's that deny it, the most, that are at the greatest and most at risk, as well!

May God have Mercy on your Poor Lost Soul and help you! :(

If you really need a shoulder to cry on...I am here for ya, bud. :o

[miguean]

aliens are the children of the future

[drael]

No no no, _christians_ are fallen angels and minions of satan.

Aliens are quite nice. I often have tea with them.

[one666]

What else is there to say, these Fallen ANGELS, have craeted all these Identeties to keep Humanity BUSY,

But my question to them is HOW LONG do you think the BALL can keep ROLLING in your side of the COURT,


ALL ISSUES are related , and planned by these FALEN ANGELS.

ANY Issue you bring up, is THEM, even as I AM typing they KNOW, That their TIME is NEAR,

namaste

You are correct hence my Avitar. I came to this conclusion in the 90's around the time the world laughed at david for talking about reptillians. A friend of mine said to me i would get lynched if i walked into a catholic church and profess that god is an alien so i decided not to lol.

[one666]

i'd just like to point out that angels can't fall as they don't have the free will to do anything that would warrant getting kicked out of heaven. all they can do is serve God. that's it.

so if the devil was an angel, how did he fall? this is cleared up in islam where the devil is a creature called a 'jinn'. (we call them 'genies' here in the west. and if you were wondering, jinn are made of smokeless fire, angels are made of light, and men are made of clay...) only men and jinn have free will, according to islam. angels do not.

also, as a test from God, jinn have a lot of powers that humans don't have. shapeshifting is one of their powers and they can even appear in human form. a lot of muslims believe that 'aliens' and 'ghosts' are actually jinn trying to trick mankind out of rememberence of God. it's also interesting to note that not all jinn are evil as some of them choose to worship their Creator.

just thought i'd add another viewpoint, peace.

Lucid or Lucifer reflected the light of god with great brilliance but took credit for gods light and was cast out of heaven and some angels followed lucifer and became the first of his armies but as time went on he formed more armies across the cosmos. He visits planets and offers technology in return he wants that particular race to make a deal with him. The only problem is that any civilisation who has made a deal with him in the past have all been destroyed. Our governments have done the same thing. They made a deal for technology. I know people here will laugh at me for saying this but i don't care.

[one666]

[QUOTE=deafbred;1058303934]the other day i had a dream in the early morning that was so vividly surreal

in my dream i had a camera and was trying to photograph alien space craft that were in the air in my back yard. at one point one was close enough and i tried to get it to see me and communicate with it. i hoped over a fence into the neighbors backyard feild where their horses graze. as soon as my feet hit planted on the ground, a light from the space craft shown on me. i looked up and an alien green dude started to decend from the ship light. he stood infront of me and out of no where it seems there were more aliens that started wanted to encircle me, but i turned around and kept my eye on them. one seemed to be mischivous and evil. the first one that decended from the light seemed nice and empathetic and i could tell would be willing to help me if i communicated.

in this dream at that point of the whole alien interaction and jumping over the fence, there was a great sort of fear but i kept it in check and was able to go about the dream aware and in control. while everyone was running and my whole family where hiding, i was out trying to confront and obtain sight or contact with the alien presence in the sky.

i never in my whole life had an alien dream. when i woke up, it felt like there was a presence in the room. like entities. i looked over my shoulder and in a i guess was a half awake half asleep state, (though i was awake and moving in my bed to look over to the other side of the room..) i visualized my dream right infront of my eyes and a camera that i filmed the experience with in my dream manifested before me and i got to watch again the dream that i filmed on the camcorder of the aliens when i was in my dream.

the video has been removed by the user.

[one666]

I kinda wanted to make a thread about this same topic the other day; and maybe I still will. Ideally a thread of this nature should be about discussing various ideas and thus coming to a better understanding of the TRUE nature of reality. NOT one person telling everybody else what is the only truth. That sucks...

But yes you are right omniscience; a fallen angel (Angle) would not have a body. Though they may be able to use bodies, including the Greys, they would essentially be something "spiritual"...

Yes you are correct about the greys. they are controlled by ten what you might call elders i suppose. The one out of the ten is believed to be Satan. He is neither he nor she. To experience him one gets a sense of a strong fear of death, a strong will to survive at any cost and a twisted ideology that craves worship.

[codie]

Aliens are bald midgets :eek:

[omnisense]

Aliens are bald midgets :eek:

Some of them :D