X Factor

[chris]

I know, you don't associate with this bs yadda yadda but for the other people a bit of comic relief...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c86LHMnaJh8

Seriously, how do people get like that?

[eternal_spirit]

karaoke is the work of the Devil, that came before X factor.

[pedsi]

I know, you don't associate with this bs yadda yadda but for the other people a bit of comic relief...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c86LHMnaJh8

Seriously, how do people get like that?

People like her have already been through a couple of audition rounds before they appear before Mr Cowell and co so its no wonder they look as if they've been told their families died in a car crash:eek: when they get told they cant sing......very cruel I know but thats entertainment these days:confused:

[phoebe]

She could have washed her hair...
Eughh.

[kblood]

Yea, I have been wondering why all these new types of entertainment are comming. It so much about "reality" shows and shows like this one. Which is really ironic, because it shows how much of an illusion most our lives are these days ;)

I hope that girl gets a bit more down to earth. Seems like she had built up her ego to get to that show. It seems a bit logical to try and built up your ego to get yourself to do something like this, which is what the show is really all about. Watching egos with ups and downs. And then there is a few that gets through with a stronger ego, but as I see it, alot of weak ego's simply gets burnt on shows like this. I would not be surprised if people got long periods of depression after trying something like this, but usually we prove to be stronger than expected, in my eyes anyway :)

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

:eek: > maybe if she removed the gum from her mouth, it may have gone better.................nahhh!

[cruise4]

Hey thats real talent here in Wales:D

Seriously its very sad. The way the kids these days are led into thinking this stuff is something to strive for. In many ways its another face of child abuse.

[chris]

Seriously its very sad. The way the kids these days are led into thinking this stuff is something to strive for. In many ways its another face of child abuse.

Yes, people are not wanting to be free but famous.

Being famous is like being a god for a time and as most gods get sacrificed so do they.

I guess everyone wants to be known for something, being a writer, or sportsman or actor but they don't know that they are being used to sell the 'anyone can make it' bullshit and now everone is trying to make it and TV is creating hordes of deluded fanatics. It should be interesting to see the world in 15 years time...It will get very crazy then.

[lucylight]

I think she was maybe high on drugs very zombie like! scary! I think they should call it the humiliation show I admit I have watched and laughed, shame on me.

[eternal_spirit]

I wonder if the winners are chosen in advance of the competition, and the program just makes it appear that everyone gets a shot at being the next pop star.:rolleyes:

I find it a bit sad that, they have to prove they can sing like some other famous singer. What's the point in that, it doesn't prove they're capable of singing their own original material.

That's not talent it's called being a copycat. Why listen to a copycat when the original is much better. Mind you some people like repetition. Too me it's all been done before and I find it stupid. Give me something new ffs!

[garth]

People like her have already been through a couple of audition rounds before they appear before Mr Cowell and co so its no wonder they look as if they've been told their families died in a car crash:eek: when they get told they cant sing......very cruel I know but thats entertainment these days:confused:

Very True, but what I find even more sick is that they people like this girl have been selected to fail dismally, it's all orchestrated. The people who do the preliminary auditions knew that she couldn't sing for crap & they selected her on purpose to make a mockery of her in the name of entertainment. Playing with people like this is just plain sick.:mad:

[eternal_spirit]

Yes, they do play with the contestants emotions, they must get a kick out of it. You can't help feeling sorry for some of them even though they have little talent as singers.

It's to promote the winner loser scenario. Only time I see this program is if I'm visiting someone, but have noticed some of the better singers seem to get rejected, wtf?

[Ian2day]

I think that these shows are used as a springboard by music gurus. Who have already found talent. They get them to enter the xyzfactor as it gives them loads of free publicity for these performers that they already have groomed and trained to perform. Using the show to launch them makes sense. Loads of free advertising to a market that is desperate for constructed heroes to fill the void in their lives.

[chris]

I wonder if the winners are chosen in advance of the competition, and the program just makes it appear that everyone gets a shot at being the next pop star.:rolleyes:

I wonder how many drug addicts it will create when they realise there is no where else to turn (unless they turn to freedom).

I find it a bit sad that, they have to prove they can sing like some other famous singer. What's the point in that, it doesn't prove they're capable of singing their own original material.

That's not talent it's called being a copycat. Why listen to a copycat when the original is much better. Mind you some people like repetition. Too me it's all been done before and I find it stupid. Give me something new ffs!

The music industry is dead like the film industry so they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator and put all their eggs into one basket to squeeze out a s/hit.

Its happening all over...I know so many people who are in bands its crazy and what's funny is that they are just as deluded. They stay away from PR and stuff because it's selling out but they literally worship all these sellout overated crap that came before them. I tell them they have got to network and literally make it like a business but they just think that groupies will just come to them.

Almost all bands are over rated. They just need a radical group of groupies to create a buzz in the local area and then the managers will start to listen and if you can get in good with them they might give you a shot. Then you've got to be on good terms with the magazines and writers (because these are the high preists) and you'll be set. Very few bands are powerful enough to start dissing the magazines because they can make you uncool in a matter of weeks. This whole thing is as fake as wrestling and if people want to break in then they've got to understand this but they have bought into a lie just like the rest of them and are all detatched and renounced when it comes to the important stuff but try far too hard to live the lifestyle as true fakes.

Remember limp bizkit? Fred Durst started speaking the truth and it literally killed the band, they were huge before that. Being in a band is mostly about being worshipped then money, woman and drugs but they can't admit it. If you do then you break their paradigm. Very religious these people are...

[garth]

Yes, they do play with the contestants emotions, they must get a kick out of it. You can't help feeling sorry for some of them even though they have little talent as singers.


Exactly eternal, you do feel sorry for them, but in the real world they wouldn't make the stage, it's all a scam the whole shebang. The "dud" singers are there purely to be taken the piss out of, that's it. It's all about everyone having a laugh at some poor buggars expense. Sure they can argue that the contestants put themselves up for it by attending, but these people have been selected from literally thousands. the odds of even going before the judge panel for the the first audition are like 100 to 1. It's a sick choreographed game.

[jesus disciple]

I think that these shows are used as a springboard by music gurus. Who have already found talent. They get them to enter the xyzfactor as it gives them loads of free publicity for these performers that they already have groomed and trained to perform. Using the show to launch them makes sense. Loads of free advertising to a market that is desperate for constructed heroes to fill the void in their lives.

Yeah but you don't hear much of these winners after
The initial single is released.
(Thank god!)
I remember that last girl who's name escapes me
The record was played everywhere
Then...
Nothing

[eternal_spirit]

That explains a lot Chris, which is much the way I see it. Many good bands end up compromising themselves, to make a living, they'll end up doing cabaret, rock, pop, blues covers,etc. Their own good original music usually doesn't get them paid.

And if they do play their own songs you can bet it will be the same old boring, similar if not the same sound formula as bands in the past. verse chorus verse chorus etc. Which is what the record companies etc demand of them.

Even something that's hyped as being a new sound isn't to us who've been around along time, to those who haven't they think they're getting something different. People will only listen to what's available ( pushed by media, marketed) so the majority don't know there is other stuff about.

You know how they invent all these new names/geners for music now, it's the same sounds with a different name in reality, just another marketing ploy and many fall for it.

[chris]

And if they do play their own songs you can bet it will be the same old boring, similar if not the same sound formula as bands in the past. verse chorus verse chorus etc. Which is what the record companies etc demand of them.

Yes they've been doing the exact same songs on the same albums for years...intro, chorus, verse, chorus, verse, bridge, chorus, outro (or something very close)...When will people realise this? Those are the singles, the albums will also have the exact same themes with same kinds of interludes which give away some selected personality of the band and will have the same kind of progressive song on it and same kind of campfire song and the same heavier song...Its a complete joke.

Even something that's hyped as being a new sound isn't to us who've been around along time, to those who haven't they think they're getting something different. People will only listen to what's available ( pushed by media, marketed) so the majority don't know there is other stuff about.

You know how they invent all these new names/geners for music now, it's the same sounds with a different name in reality, just another marketing ploy and many fall for it.

I think emo was created to merge goth into a more commercial venture that both trendy people and alternative can like and dress like without looking completely stupid.

[Ian2day]

When you think about it. Music is used to reinforce reality. The media constructed version of reality. Where everyone is a good little consumer. In a postmodernity world. All music is simply a rehash of the past with a slightly different twist. You can also see this reflected with fashion. It is not innovative. It's just taking the designs of the past and using modern materials to give it a 'fresh young look'. Its the same with music. So what does this tell us. It tells us that we're quite literally being conditioned. Conditioned to be good little workers. That they don't want us to look beyond the reality that is created for us. Why, what will we find out? Will we find out that we are just an experiment. Testing some theoretical musings of a Reptillian of how to create Artifical Intelligence. Are we within one of many simulated worlds designed to recreate some anomaly or is it to create energy for some unknown purpose.

[cruise4]

I believe its about degradation... the viewer, the participants, the makers, the panel, all are degraded morally. Thats why this is now found funny. 50 years ago I think most people would be appalled.

You see degradation at work in Big Brother too. In fact this agenda is everywhere in modern day society.

[chris]

You see degradation at work in Big Brother too. In fact this agenda is everywhere in modern day society.

I'm still waiting for the running man...Now that would be a great hit.

[jessop]

X factor, like any other high profile tv show or film is just another programming tool designed to keep the tv watching masses in stupor. Apart from the obvious cruelty and shallowness, its undoubtedly riddled with evil subliminals. filth.

my thruppence

peace all! :D

[the norseman]

The shows of this ilk contribute to the present state of western society in a number of ways. It serves to tell people that they are worthless fools if they are not famous - in order to get through they have to be: Well versed in popular culture, Dress the part, Right hair cut. Most of them are cardboard cut outs of previous winners. There is nothing new in any of it. It just reinforces how people should act and how what their dreams and hopes should be - no one really pursues anything of intellectual value these days - it is ridiculouse.

The reason you never really hear of the winners of these shows afterwards is because they have served their purpose. They have generated millions in phone in revenue on the night, prime time advertising slots and the trashy paraphanalia that follows ie interviews and exclusives. When they have sufficiently faded from public view another show is launched to find the next biggest talent and the same retards will sit in front of their TVs and waste more money texting in. It is truely absurd.

This is just like many other shows - they love having a stupidified camptive audiance, sitting at home staring at the TV dribbling into their microwave dinners and texting the living daylights out of the TV on their mobile phones.

Look at the adverts that accompany these shows during the break - they are all aimed at taking money off of people there and then, "download the newest ringtone" etc as well as adverts for the magazines that reinforce all of this shit when people are away from their TVs.

So called reality TV is one of the lowest forms of popular entertainment. Like someone said, it attracts the lowest common denominator. Just have a browse through of prime time TV and most of it is reality based ie X Factor, Britains biggest talent, I am celebrity get me out of here, big brother et al. Programmes in the past that had some substance have faded from public view. TV is purely to condition and make money. The mobile phone and the TV combined are always an instant winner any show aired at 1800 on a saturday night with a phone in option can not fail to make millions.

In days gone by it was said as tongue in cheek that court jestors would one day become king and it seems that that is now the case.

The Norseman.

[chris]

lol, interesting...

I think also that the judges demand that the contestant to be absolutely fanatical about persuing their singing career is going to destroy ten thousand lives for each life it makes.

They are always like 'How much do you want it?' or 'I don't think you want it bad enough.'

Hollywood is full of drugies and prostitutes who've had their dreams broken. It seems like they are trying to bring this everywhere.

After all, who needs an education if I am famous?

[kblood]

After all, who needs an education if I am famous?

Yep, that does seem to be a mentality of alot of people today :( It is like those that win millions in the lottery, and they think their dream has come true, then they loose friends, spend alot more money than they expected would ever be possible and their expenses each months keeps going up and up untill they discover that their millions was not exactly an endless source of money. After this their life hopefully takes a turn for the better, but I fear many simply try to get their life as a millionaire back somehow. It is not really a life I will ever envy. I see money as something that brings problems and concern to me. If I ever do get rich, I just hope I have the wisdom and knowledge to use the money it wisely.

Then there is the life of models, popstars and maybe even some actors. Probably several kinds of people that gets a great breakthrough in life, but have to live a life of ups and downs most the time. F.ex. a popstar might get rich, but might get ruined financially as well. If someone famous falls from grace, it is very like that their fortunes simply dissapear to the great expenses they have probably built up doing their career. I once heard of a reality show about a woman in her 40ies becomming a pornstar. I think the show was about how someone got to be a pornstar and what kind of life a pornstar then lived. This obviously was not one of the more succesfull pornstars. Beginning such a career at the age of 40 seems like a deperate choice for fame. This woman then even buys a sports car with her first two sallary checks. As I heard it, she had only made two "xxx-movies" that might or might not have been released. It did not sound as if they went so well that it would be a career for her the next 10 years, and still she indebts herself the first chance she gets.

Vanity and feeding it can be so disastrous. A show like this X-factor one is based upon this very thing I believe. We have similar shows here in Denmark. At least some of those that manage to get on the show, also find the courage to do something about their career as a singer, musician or dancer of some kind. It is a life of glitter and glory, and probably good memories and stories to tell the grandchildren. Also all fame gives some amount of power. Power to get friends, power to get noticed but in the end, it still takes a good hearted person to keep it all.

Another 5 cents from me. Hope I dont put you all to sleep with walls of text like this ;)

[chris]

No its interesting...I like talking about this kind of stuff because its everwhere in society.

What about the rappers that get their million dollar contracts and blow it completely then are in debt...They've been fooled by cribs and consumerism. I'm very liberal when it comes to my own money but I spend it wisely, never get in debt and think of essentials.

So many people around me just have 5 credit cards on the go and other I know are in over £10,000 in debt from credit cards. Its because we live in a socialist system that people think the government will take care of them and all they need to buy are clothes and toys.

[spacegurl]

The shows of this ilk contribute to the present state of western society in a number of ways. It serves to tell people that they are worthless fools if they are not famous - in order to get through they have to be: Well versed in popular culture, Dress the part, Right hair cut. Most of them are cardboard cut outs of previous winners. There is nothing new in any of it. It just reinforces how people should act and how what their dreams and hopes should be - no one really pursues anything of intellectual value these days - it is ridiculouse.

The reason you never really hear of the winners of these shows afterwards is because they have served their purpose. They have generated millions in phone in revenue on the night, prime time advertising slots and the trashy paraphanalia that follows ie interviews and exclusives. When they have sufficiently faded from public view another show is launched to find the next biggest talent and the same retards will sit in front of their TVs and waste more money texting in. It is truely absurd.

This is just like many other shows - they love having a stupidified camptive audiance, sitting at home staring at the TV dribbling into their microwave dinners and texting the living daylights out of the TV on their mobile phones.

Look at the adverts that accompany these shows during the break - they are all aimed at taking money off of people there and then, "download the newest ringtone" etc as well as adverts for the magazines that reinforce all of this shit when people are away from their TVs.

So called reality TV is one of the lowest forms of popular entertainment. Like someone said, it attracts the lowest common denominator. Just have a browse through of prime time TV and most of it is reality based ie X Factor, Britains biggest talent, I am celebrity get me out of here, big brother et al. Programmes in the past that had some substance have faded from public view. TV is purely to condition and make money. The mobile phone and the TV combined are always an instant winner any show aired at 1800 on a saturday night with a phone in option can not fail to make millions.

In days gone by it was said as tongue in cheek that court jestors would one day become king and it seems that that is now the case.

The Norseman.

Very well said and intelligently written.

Observing the X Factor without getting emotionally involved will make you notice the programming behind it. The sickly music similar to a funeral durge while the latest hopefuls sang in the judges houses. All you hear are the sob stories of the contestants, as if that is more important than the singing talent contest. It's as if the show is planting thoughts of low self esteem into the viewers brains by wishing they were there famous and meeting stars. The attitude of the show, and the contestants, is that they're nothing unless they win the X Factor. What was wrong with their lives anyway? many of them have decent jobs and nice homes. I'm sure they have holidays every year too but they crave millions and fame as it makes them more "human". There's conditioning behind the show and I think underneath all that colour and smiling faces is something sinister. It's to indoctrinate the masses into thinking they and the rest of us are worthless. It takes away humanity. It erodes intelligence. All reality TV shows do that, which is why so many are cropping up in the UK.

[chris]

I have been watching it, sad to say...

Yeah, those people vouching for our sympathies are pathetic. It's like we get their life story over and over again.

Also did you see the advertisement for tomorrows show, the guy actually said "Tomorrow, you will see half the contestants dreams crushed!"

[deeemtee]

Some times i feel that shows like 'Big Brother' are there to condition society to the idea of being watched. That way it is easier to take away our privacy from us. It acts on a sub conscious level. Years of watching Big Brother will facilitate the ultimate plan... microchipping.:eek:

[chris]

Some times i feel that shows like 'Big Brother' are there to condition society to the idea of being watched. That way it is easier to take away our privacy from us. It acts on a sub conscious level. Years of watching Big Brother will facilitate the ultimate plan... microchipping.:eek:

Great first post. I agree.

[spacegurl]

I have been watching it, sad to say...

Yeah, those people vouching for our sympathies are pathetic. It's like we get their life story over and over again.

Also did you see the advertisement for tomorrows show, the guy actually said "Tomorrow, you will see half the contestants dreams crushed!"

Yes that last quote was a bit sick really. It wants the viewers to wait impatiently for seeing whose tears will flow.

[neutron flux]

I posted this in the humour section of Charlie Brooker giving the X-Factor his screenwipe treatment:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[eternal_spirit]

It's enough to put off most serious musicians who hope to make an impact with their original music. Note that many of the songs that are sung are by dead.... or old famous artists who where heavily mind controlled or closet occultists etc. From previous generations.

[father ted]

I have the x factor.

(I'm surprised fantana hasn't posted yet)

[tiswas]

The X factor has killed the art of music writing and original thoughts.
Simon Cowell seems to run ITV.:mad:

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I have the x factor.

(I'm surprised fantana hasn't posted yet)

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[snoopsnuffleopagus]

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The X factor has killed the art of music writing and original thoughts.
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[spacegurl]

Edit, I don't understand what your posts are on about.