View Full Version : Poland okays forcible castration for paedophiles
richardhastings
29-09-2009, 02:32 AM
Poland on Friday approved a law making chemical castration mandatory for paedophiles in some cases, sparking criticism from human rights groups. Skip related content
Under the law, sponsored by Poland's centre-right government, paedophiles convicted of raping children under the age of 15 years or a close relative would have to undergo chemical therapy on their release from prison.
"The purpose of this action is to improve the mental health of the convict, to lower his libido and thereby to reduce the risk of another crime being committed by the same person," the government said in a statement.
Prime Minister Donald Tusk said late last year he wanted obligatory castration for paedophiles, whom he branded 'degenerates'. Tusk said he did not believe "one can use the term 'human' for such individuals, such creatures".
"Therefore I don't think protection of human rights should refer to these kind of events," Tusk also said.
His remarks drew criticism from human rights groups but he never retracted them.
"Introducing any mandatory treatment raises doubts as such a requirement is never reasonable and life can always produce cases that lawmakers could never have even dreamt of," said Piotr Kladoczny from the Helsinki Foundation of Human Rights.
"If somebody is of sound mind, we punish him. If he is sick, we try to cure him -- that's how it works in Polish law. This bill introduces both approaches. As far as I know, this makes our law the strictest in Europe on this issue,"
Good the monsters deserve it they should introduce it here in this country.
:D
measle_weasel
29-09-2009, 04:01 AM
Chemical castration? Why not just snip their balls off with a pair of scissors? Or maybe a paper cutter:
http://static.flickr.com/1393/1430605025_c35533432c.jpg
Chemical castration? Why not just snip their balls off with a pair of scissors?
That could work also but then they have to clean up the mess.
metacomet
29-09-2009, 04:07 AM
Chemical castration? Why not just snip their balls off with a pair of scissors? Or maybe a paper cutter:
http://static.flickr.com/1393/1430605025_c35533432c.jpg
AAAAAAHHH!!!!
I cannot unthink that mental image now... ultra mega ouch.
Anyway...
let's take a second to think about this.
Imagine you are framed or wrongfully persecuted?
Would it be as bad as being executed wrongfully? No. But almost. Almost.
A frightening thought.
In any case... sounds like game over for pedos in poland.
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 04:15 AM
if youre charged/convicted by fault, call it bad luck?
unfuckingbelieveable
devanshoom
29-09-2009, 04:15 AM
'to improve the mental health of convicts"
man if someone cut my knob off I would either do myself in...or be first in line for a sub machine gun and eradicate the entire globe
sounds barbaric to me...what if someone was wrongfully convicted...or met a mature looking 15 year old in a bar and got caught with his pants down.....what would gary glitter have to say about this?
measle_weasel
29-09-2009, 04:21 AM
The paper cutter should be reserved for those whose the victims case against is so strong, that there is virtually no possibility that a wrong conviction was made. Discretion should be used by the judge.
Imagine you are framed or wrongfully persecuted?
Never find yourself in a postion to be wrongly accused and you will be fine.
supertzar
29-09-2009, 04:39 AM
Never find yourself in a postion to be wrongly accused and you will be fine.
No matter how many you castrate, the most serious abuse in this world will remain and the rest will continue to spring from there. You think the high level perpetrators who are running this shit are going to be held accountable? No. This is to dominate the masses under a nightmarish autocracy while the worst, most profoundly destructive perps, the ones who practice the most unimaginable ritual abuse under the umbrella of power go free.
No matter how many you castrate, the most serious abuse in this world will remain and the rest will continue to spring from there. You think the high level perpetrators who are running this shit are going to be held accountable? No. This is to dominate the masses under a nightmarish autocracy while the worst, most profoundly destructive perps, the ones who practice the most unimaginable ritual abuse under the umbrella of power go free.
Then what in your opinion would work because i dont see you coming up with options i think this is the best deterrent for now untill further messures can be taken and the ones at the top the high level monsters well its only a matter of time before there routed out and i must say David Icke leads the way in exposing the elites for what they are lets hope they face justice also.
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 04:47 AM
Never find yourself in a postion to be wrongly accused and you will be fine.
hey sherlock, you know 50percent of rape charges are fraudulent,do you?
if youve said rightfully excused,uh,ok.
but no,look what youve wrote.
supertzar
29-09-2009, 04:56 AM
hey sherlock, you know 50percent of rape charges are fraudulent,do you?
if youve said rightfully excused,uh,ok.
but no,look what youve wrote.
What lewi wrote is probably the most amazing doublespeak I have ever seen.
hey sherlock, you know 50percent of rape charges are fraudulent,do you?
if youve said rightfully excused,uh,ok.
but no,look what youve wrote.
You can take what i have wrote as a bad thing or you can see it for what it is an opinion anyone found sleeping with underage children should be castrated they are monsters plain and simple. People who rape deserve to be castrated also if there is enough evidence they too are monsters that need to be shown they cannot get away with what they did.
Dont break the law and you dont have to worry.
What lewi wrote is probably the most amazing doublespeak I have ever seen.
How you can think that i am trying to deceive you is beyond me but i guess you have your reasons, try to help me understand where your coming from please i dont like the tone of your post.
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 05:05 AM
What lewi wrote is probably the most amazing doublespeak I have ever seen.
he fails to see that.
lay off the weed once in a while lewi,seriously.
he fails to see that.
lay off the weed once in a while lewi,seriously.
Sorry but i only smoke when iam on holiday thats like twice a year if iam lucky that makes me a bad person in your eyes or some crazy posting drug fiend thats your problem not mine.
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 05:08 AM
How you can think that i am trying to deceive you is beyond me but i guess you have your reasons, try to help me understand where your coming from please i dont like the tone of your posts.
read everything in post12.
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 05:11 AM
Sorry but i only smoke when iam on holiday thats like twice a year if iam lucky that makes me a bad person in your eyes or some crazy posting drug fiend thats your problem not mine.
fair enough.apologies.
ill correct myself.
try2think before you post.
read tru your posts before submitting,to see if it makes sense.
read everything in post12.
Sorry but you have lost me mate but all i can say is bring on the castrations the basterds deserve it.
supertzar
29-09-2009, 05:20 AM
Then what in your opinion would work because i dont see you coming up with options i think this is the best deterrent for now untill further messures can be taken and the ones at the top the high level monsters well its only a matter of time before there routed out and i must say David Icke leads the way in exposing the elites for what they are lets hope they face justice also.
We can't sit back and let David Icke do everything. We need to revolutionize the world with intelligence and wisdom. I am developing an idea on how to do it. It begins with doing the easiest things to do, which often are some of the most beneficial things. Mainly it is regular people agreeing to do things in the most intelligent way.
I see the problem of abuse as very much a trickle-down effect from the most extreme perpetrators most of whom wield incredible power. I have a feeling that the "garden variety" abuse will be reduced greatly when and only when the people of this world dismantle the control system. It is a benefit of a medium term goal in my vision of a better world.
Nearly all the population on earth are ruled by the control system and would die to protect it people like Icke are crucial if you expect anything to change in the hierarchy i dont see change coming any time soon and he seems to be the only one exposing them too however those who make the laws can also die by them remember that and then think about the change you wish to see.
supertzar
29-09-2009, 05:35 AM
Nearly all the population on earth are ruled by the control system and would die to protect it people like Icke are crucial if you expect anything to change in the hierarchy i dont see change coming any time soon and he seems to be the only one exposing them too however those who make the laws can also die by them remember that and then think about the change you wish to see.
I see change very clearly happening by people everywhere deciding to operate on a higher level. Even fairly small increases in intelligent behavior could have an enormous impact. Why do you think the system is so tightly controlled? Because if we begin to take responsibility and do things the right way, the control is threatened.
yozhik
29-09-2009, 08:40 AM
I sure would hate to be that guy who is framed and falsely convicted.
Not hard to do, now that the facists are stealing and storing our DNA on a database.
Politically outpsoken?
Don't like our policies?
Actively protesting?
Critic of the EU superstate?
No probs ... we can arrange for you and your testicles to have a nice little 'accident'.
Now ... where did we put that sample of your DNA ... oh - here it is ...
hadabusa
29-09-2009, 04:50 PM
i tought for long about this, after 1min,i concluded
polanski first
polanski first
fromthatshow
30-09-2009, 01:11 AM
I sure would hate to be that guy who is framed and falsely convicted.
Not hard to do, now that the facists are stealing and storing our DNA on a database.
Politically outpsoken?
Don't like our policies?
Actively protesting?
Critic of the EU superstate?
No probs ... we can arrange for you and your testicles to have a nice little 'accident'.
Now ... where did we put that sample of your DNA ... oh - here it is ...
I agree
godspeed
30-09-2009, 01:59 AM
That would be fine and dandy if our courts were not so corrupt
if cops would investigate accusations and not ACT on them
ask questions later.....eh
if your not breaking the law nothing to worry about.........
bent lawyers and easy done on hearsay.......
dont even need to leave home for shit to hit you now mate
we're all done for with that torture is it legal now........:eek:
amercury
30-09-2009, 04:40 AM
They are talking about 'chemical castration' not actually chopping off any parts.
That means the pervs will be medicated so that they cannot get sexually excited or have sexual thoughts.
Frankly I don't have a problem with it.
mind1universe
30-09-2009, 06:09 AM
This doesn't solve the problem. The problem lies with the system that creates irrational personality disorders, sexual organ disorders, depression, hormone imbalance, ADHD, Autism, peadophilia, stimulated aggression, bipolarism, Low esteem, Chemical imbalances in the brain, Erectile dysfunction, Hyperactivity, etc. Addictions to foods, drugs, alcohol, ciggerettes, sex too for example. These are all well marketed by the matrix and they then give out products which we buy to stop this. But they still create hte problem. So we are like stuck in a mouse cage going nowhere.
These problems are created by the system that is "trying" to stop it. Oh gee.
Sexual images, pornographic materials is drilled into our minds and men especially are brainwashed to be sexial predators. As in nature men have an inbuilt instinct to reproduce. The matrix plays on this very well. That it actually has the power to take over the minds of a male more easily since the matrix is now control. Men have to work, sleep and have sex, basic survivial needs.. Men are programmed to be macho, non aware, non feeling and just "to live". As the same applies with woman to be more feminine and complete opposite, but they too are brainwashed to be unbalanced to the point they can't overcome emotional problems for an example.
Everything in society is deliberately imbalance, so the people above us can control us while they have a quality of life. Some of those people are not human.
I mean I am in no way condoling or accepting of peadophilia or the drug use that Poland want's to bring in. But I do think this will not solve the problem. Drugs don't solve the problem, they just block it out.
You know simple things like getting back in touch with nature and treating ourselves with respect and to others. Also allowing ourselves to love ourselves. This will bring more balance to society and Prevent sexual parasites praying on people who are the easily victimized.
alzee
30-09-2009, 11:52 AM
The people who are backing this idea really need to take a look at our Judicial systems and how prone to error they are.
How many times have we all heard of someone who's been wrongly convicted and consequently spent years in jail?
What about the poor bloke who gets convicted then is subsequently found to be innocent, but its too late to reverse the chemical castration?
It's for these reasons that so many of us are against the Death Penalty. We should also be against Chem Castration for exactly the same reasons.
mind1universe
30-09-2009, 07:17 PM
The people who are backing this idea really need to take a look at our Judicial systems and how prone to error they are.
How many times have we all heard of someone who's been wrongly convicted and consequently spent years in jail?
What about the poor bloke who gets convicted then is subsequently found to be innocent, but its too late to reverse the chemical castration?
It's for these reasons that so many of us are against the Death Penalty. We should also be against Chem Castration for exactly the same reasons.
Exactly locking people up and doping people does'nt solve the problem.
People need to start looking at the bigger picture and realise that a lot things that go wrong are not been properly adressed. Peadophilia imo is related to mental dysfunction leading to sexual repression in individuals. If people were treated for their illness things may help bring things more into balance.
Mother nature needs to noticed. Eveyrthing that is wrong with the world is because of us. Man has to face these issues. But since everyone is out for themselves and believe themselves to be non faulted. Why because they are busy passing judgements on others and preferring to be self indulgent.
This idealogy has to end. We all have a role to play to bring these matters to into consideration with a view of solving the root causes to any ilnesses there are in people.
As someone who was born with a physical impairement and having mental dysfunctional people growing up around me. I know to well that denial, drugs,medical programs, force, and the whole matrix itself does not solve the problems we face in society.
boy better know
30-09-2009, 08:42 PM
It says for "having sex with a girl under 15". You don't all of a suden gain sexual urges at 16. Many girls under that age are sexually active and boy better know some of them (SHOCK) enjoy sex. So a 20 year old who has sex with a 14 year old girl is going to be castrated? Seems a bit harsh to say the least.
amercury
01-10-2009, 04:16 AM
Chemical castration is reversible.
Once someone stops taking the medication they are no longer chemically castrated!
But I agree with mind1universe, it doesn't go to the root of the problem. However for now it can stop perpetrators from committing more crimes.
moon monkey
01-10-2009, 12:34 PM
Paedophiles are freaks of nature. Paedophiles are revolting, manipulative, predatory and evil.
As such they should be given a lethal injection or simply shot.
Simple really.
KILL THEM.
richardhastings
03-10-2009, 01:00 PM
get the paedophiles in a room with my miss's ,she kick the crap out them forsure, even i would'nt cross her,
been some great answers , i dont think the uk will follow suit
antinwo
03-10-2009, 03:03 PM
Good the monsters deserve it they should introduce it here in this country.
:D
I agree they are monsters but what if someone is wrongly accused:eek: I also don't think that someone having sex with a 14 year old girl is a peado. I don't think it is necessarily right, however.
largejack
03-10-2009, 03:40 PM
This idea sounds a bit degenerate and barbaric to me, and would be very hard to implement without mistakes. I don't know how we can move to higher levels of consciousness while condoning Medieval butchering practices? :D I can't believe people on here of all places, who basically say it's tough if you're wrongly accused ?
If they're a danger to society they should be locked away just like any other serious crime.
By the way this is 2009 surely there must be drugs or something which could have the same effect ?
rodin
03-10-2009, 04:05 PM
if youre charged/convicted by fault, call it bad luck?
unfuckingbelieveable
or Framed then vengeance extracted for another 'crime' altogether (like exposing the scum)
So easy to backdoor a computer with images I would imagine