Former Chief Executive abuses boys

[ms hope]

http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/Former-Calderdale-social-services-chief.5681482.jp


How many more people are in positions of power that are abusing the children in their care?:mad:

[ms hope]

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/social_services_boss_suspended_over_cumbrian_youth _worker_job_reference_1_614426?referrerPath=news/1.279201

more and more...

[ms hope]

http://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=ENOnline&category=News&tBrand=ENOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=NOED29%20Sep%202009%2007:32:19:597

and more..

[ms hope]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/8279344.stm

how many more ???:mad:

[free thinker]

One is too Many:mad:

[marpat]

And? there are many child abusers in normal walks of life, many who have no money and nothing to their name, so why should you single this man out, as if he is somehow different? its all disgusting no matter who does it.

[steevo]

And? there are many child abusers in normal walks of life, many who have no money and nothing to their name, so why should you single this man out, as if he is somehow different? its all disgusting no matter who does it.

The social services like to take children "away" for their parents. The social services are not to be trusted around kids.

[sardonicus]

Agree. Dirty disgusting beasts!!

Let's hope they all have a terrible time in prison...

[marpat]

The social services like to take children "away" for their parents. The social services are not to be trusted around kids.

and yet they seem so incompetent when it comes to taking children away who are often in peril, as recent events have shown.

[steevo]

and yet they seem so incompetent when it comes to taking children away who are often in peril, as recent events have shown.

It's a case of Problem Reaction Solution.

[marpat]

It's a case of Problem Reaction Solution.

It always is to conspiracy theorists though. Its a bit of a cliche

[steevo]

It always is to conspiracy theorists though. Its a bit of a cliche

There is no such thing as a conspiracy, as far as CO-INCIDENCE THEORISTS (and defenders of the status quo) like yourself are concerned Marpat.

[marpat]

There is no such thing as a conspiracy, as far as CO-INCIDENCE THEORISTS (and defenders of the status quo) like yourself are concerned Marpat.

Are you saying that coincidence doesnt exist?

What status quo do I defend?

[steevo]

Are you saying that coincidence doesnt exist?

Define coincidence Marpat.

What status quo do I defend?

Virtually everything you say is a defense of the status quo - The status quo that the PTB want us to believe in.

[ms hope]

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/homenews/Evil-Bulwell-woman-admits-internet-child-sex-ring/article-1384362-detail/article.html

a woman in charge a nursery

[marpat]

Define coincidence Marpat.



Virtually everything you say is a defense of the status quo - The status quo that the PTB want us to believe in.

Related events coinciding in time and space. Things may coincide in time and space but they may bear no relation to one another apart from proximity. Example, you see an old friend from the past and you make contact. Now you could say that there is a subtle connection there but in everyday life you could pass hundreds of people in that same space an yet there may be no connection whatsoever.

I dont care what you believe in but that doesnt mean I should not question it. It is you who try to dictate peoples beliefs. It is you who gets all defensive when I questions peopls posts.

[rhydra]

There was someone on the BBC news channel reporting on that woman who was abusing the kids in the nursery. He said that the danger os such cases is that it damages the bond between children and adults and also damages society. Weak sentences, inadequate punishments, having the treat everyone as potential paedophiles because they can't keep them behind bars, is that a deliberate ploy to damage society? I think it is. Why is it that there are so many paedos who have been sentenced for horrific abuses who have been discovered to have been known to the authorities and have had many convictions who are free to carry those crimes out again and again? So many who have gone on to not just abuse but kill, then the government decides to act, they have been acting for decades yet the most important thing they could do, keeping paedophiles in prison permanently is the one thing they have never done.
No, they would rather them be around and at large so they use them as an excuse to treat everyone as suspects.

[steevo]

There was someone on the BBC news channel reporting on that woman who was abusing the kids in the nursery. He said that the danger os such cases is that it damages the bond between children and adults and also damages society. Weak sentences, inadequate punishments, having the treat everyone as potential paedophiles because they can't keep them behind bars, is that a deliberate ploy to damage society? I think it is. Why is it that there are so many paedos who have been sentenced for horrific abuses who have been discovered to have been known to the authorities and have had many convictions who are free to carry those crimes out again and again? So many who have gone on to not just abuse but kill, then the government decides to act, they have been acting for decades yet the most important thing they could do, keeping paedophiles in prison permanently is the one thing they have never done.
No, they would rather them be around and at large so they use them as an excuse to treat everyone as suspects.

Yes that would explain why they always seem to let pedofiles out of prison early - The PTB do this to create the paranoia that will destroy communities, and society.

[steevo]

Related events coinciding in time and space. Things may coincide in time and space but they may bear no relation to one another apart from proximity. Example, you see an old friend from the past and you make contact. Now you could say that there is a subtle connection there but in everyday life you could pass hundreds of people in that same space an yet there may be no connection whatsoever.

I dont care what you believe in but that doesnt mean I should not question it. It is you who try to dictate peoples beliefs. It is you who gets all defensive when I questions peopls posts.

I have learned a hell of alot from you Marpat. I have learned how to debate with a person who has no opinion, who only uses logical fallacies in their debates, who has no thoughts that are his own. And I GENUINELY wanna thank you for that Marpat, and I am being 100% sincere when I say that :)
In LIFE (away from the forum), chatting to you has REALLY helped me to be able to get my message across to people who are not aware of how people like you (for a small handful of silver) are manipulating them in EVERY aspect of their lives. Cheers! :)

[marpat]

I have learned a hell of alot from you Marpat. I have learned how to debate with a person who has no opinion, who only uses logical fallacies in their debates, who has no thoughts that are his own. And I GENUINELY wanna thank you for that Marpat, and I am being 100% sincere when I say that :)
In LIFE (away from the forum), chatting to you has REALLY helped me to be able to get my message across to people who are not aware of how people like you (for a small handful of silver) are manipulating them in EVERY aspect of their lives. Cheers! :)

You go on about logical fallcies. Can you explain what you are talking about and explain why you accuse me of such?

You are the one with no thoughts of your own. Everything you say is based on the idea of total conspiracy and is based on wht you have read of the NWO. In this respect nothing you say is original but just another manifestation of existing ideas and accusations.

Can you rephrase you last sentence as it makes no sense. Are you suggesting that I get paid to manipulate people?

[marpat]

There was someone on the BBC news channel reporting on that woman who was abusing the kids in the nursery. He said that the danger os such cases is that it damages the bond between children and adults and also damages society. Weak sentences, inadequate punishments, having the treat everyone as potential paedophiles because they can't keep them behind bars, is that a deliberate ploy to damage society? I think it is. Why is it that there are so many paedos who have been sentenced for horrific abuses who have been discovered to have been known to the authorities and have had many convictions who are free to carry those crimes out again and again? So many who have gone on to not just abuse but kill, then the government decides to act, they have been acting for decades yet the most important thing they could do, keeping paedophiles in prison permanently is the one thing they have never done.
No, they would rather them be around and at large so they use them as an excuse to treat everyone as suspects.

There are a lot of criminal types who dont get punished as they should. If a person is drink driving an kills somebody they are not done for killing them but for a driving offence. If the prisons werent full we might see people getting banged up for longer periods.

Look at the case of that woman who killed herself and her disabled child because of abuse. The police did nothing to help them even though many people had trouble with that family. It now turns out that the police are having to protect the antagonists because somebody has threatened them!! the laws of this country are truly fucked up.

Perhaps the government has taken a more european stance on laws, where a person is not necessarily innocent until proven guilty.

[ms hope]

It is madness that so many unsuitable people are allowed into positions of power , whilst many children are being taken away from families that desperately want them and who speak of the abuses that are being carried out against them by the same people employed to protect children.

The comments on this website make me want to cry http://nameshamesocialworkers.blogspot.com/

[A letter a dear friend of mine sent to the Judge in the Family Court,( edited to protect identities) the Judge used paragraph 4 to remove them as party. Yet he failed to answer when asked in Court what would stop children’s services coming after their own children if they failed ‘so-called assessments including a psychological assessment that the Council and Judge were trying to rail road them into.]


After our recent LIP experience of the Family Courts regarding contesting the ICO (at your suggestion), in the hope our granddaughters would be returned to live with their grandparents. We now have ‘little faith’ in either the LA professionals who unfortunately, do not appear to act in the ‘best interests of the children’ or the present system that fails to make them accountable for their actions.

It may just be coincidental that I was standing for election in November 2007 after I had complained to the Director of Children’s Services , on a separate issue and took my complaints to the LGO.

Apparently, we could risk being labelled mad or worse if we go to the press; yet it seems pointless to Appeal without the media.

Regretfully, our stance on being assessed has not changed for the reasons given at the initial hearing; having young children of adoptable ages and no belief in the CSW comment ‘that the SS do not canvas for work’ our family has already been destroyed.

Please do not think us paranoid. A continuous stream of high calibre news articles including award winning Journalists, looking into ‘children’s services’ alongside the UN investigation into our Family Courts, EDM’s signed by numerous MP’s and
Jack Straw’s announcement to allow the press (April2009); all suggest otherwise.

There appears to be a mass of contradictions/inaccuracies and double standards.
Selective incomplete evidence, (mainly opinion based) interpreted as ‘fact’ without the full information requested from September 2002 including ‘notes’ from both the SS and CG. A different criteria/ model supplied (non-relative assessment), which is neither objective nor subjective. And discerning to note that there is no record of us receiving £100 cash from the SS .

Ironically, a Councillor on the ‘Children’s Champion Board’ sort my advice about ‘children’s services’ and is aware of our previous experience.
Although I did not ask him, he seems to have attempted to help; I am not his constituent nor did I ask about kinship care allowance and our children are not known to social care or receive services.

Charles J in Re R [2002] 1 FLR 755 and Munby J in Re L (Care Assessment: Fair Trial) [2002] 2 FLR 730In Re R,

Relatives are expected to jump through hoops and endure fishing trips that were simply not required on the two previous occasions, when XXXX and XXXX were placed in our care, on the second occasion after an interview with CPO.
The LA may have been concerned about a possible Judicial Review and this may have contributed to why an offer of a mandatory referral for (FGC) ‘not best practice’ as suggested in Court, was not forthcoming.

D-v- Southwark LBC [2007] EWCA Civ 182
. Munby J Manchester City Council – V – F (2002) 1FLR 43

What is the definition of better than good enough parenting?

The House of Lords (2008) ‘grandparents only have to be reasonable enough parents’

“Innocent yet presumed guilty unless we comply - On the balance of probabilities?”
We probably have far more experience than many of the professionals involved, having raised 6 children.

Supervisory contact is only required we believe, if there is a danger to the children.
Being a XXXX/CRB checked with no previous concerns, it is insulting and degrading to be only offered expensive supervised contact in an unnatural environment. While our offer of contact in our home (with foster carers if need be) and Cllrs/Corporate Parents offering to be present, is ignored/rejected.
Whilst bizarrely XXXX & XXXX have been transported by taxi virtually on a daily basis from XXXX that is 5 minutes from XXXX, to XXXX approximately a hours drive by their first set of inexperienced carers; all at the taxpayers expense?

Where are our granddaughter’s Human Rights to a family life? Having been placed in foster care, where their well-being has deteriorated after being separated and passed from ‘pillar to post’ and respite care, instead of with relatives.

DCSF – figures suggest that at least 2 children a week die and/or are abused in care.

Research suggests that there are well-evidenced advantages1 for children who cannot live with their parents to be raised by relatives or friends:
Farmer E and Moyers S (2008)‘Kinship Care: Fostering Effective Family and Friends Placements’ (Jessica Kingsley); Doolan et al (2004) Growing up in the Care of Relatives and Friends (Family Rights Group); Hunt J (2003) Family and Friends Care; coping Paper for Dept of Health; Broad, B (ed) (2001) Kinship Care: the placement of choice for children and young people (Russell House; Hunt Waterhouse & Lutman (2008forthcoming) Keeping them in the family (BAAF) Dr Lynne Wrenndall, Charles Pragnell. Lisa Blakemore-Brown, Brian Morgan, Dr Helen Hayward-Brown, Bruce Irvine,
Dr Clive Baldwin, Stephen Clark, Cathy Johnson (2004) Taking the stick away: the service users’ joint statement

It is hoped that XXXX (babies are far more sort after for adoption and a marketable commodity) will be given a Voice Child Advocate, (the CSW rejected this in favour of the CG only).

The FGC Co-ordinator’s comment ‘ holding a FGC at a late stage “energises families” is insulting and worthless when the LA holds all the power and should not be advising family members that I must agree to be assessed.
The joint comments from the LA solicitor and CG who later offered to alter her notes? The LA solicitor told me ‘ the LA only had a duty to consider family members.’
If Human Rights and the PLO can be so brazenly be disregarded/ ignored, is it any wonder that ¾ of children end up adopted or on SGO with strangers instead of relatives.

The CG Solicitor’s remarks outside the Court ‘that LA Counsel could speak for me, or XXXX a passing Solicitor could represent me or they would adjourn and the Court would/could not allow my grandchildren to be placed with us on ICO’ (reiterated the CG comment) and meeting immediately after Court, with the CSW/Counsel, but not us. And the CG & ISW lunching in the Café across the road, all show how cosy the relevant professionals appear to be, hardly independent.

‘ Generally speaking, guardians act as cheerleaders for social services departments. They are entirely compliant, and seem incapable of doing more than being a cheering section’. Eric Pickles MP. (We cannot disagree.)

As Corporate Parents we should act in the way we would if the children were our own. I am appalled at what I perceive to be professionals who fail to act in a professional manner and seem to have no intention of working to reunite children with families. The public would be astonished at the costs involved and outraged that relatives are over looked in favour of expensive foster care.

Totally amazed that such draconian measures of removing children without a mandatory referral for (FGC) can amount to; crystal ball gazing opinion backed up by expensive reports paid for from the public purse.
How is it possible to review a past non event and make a decision based on what may or may not have happened if a FGC had been held, when it could/did not take place?

Children are not mere commodities to be passed around for profit; clearly everyone involved is being paid, (the larger the bundle the more costly?), which could be better spent on ‘real’ child protection and desperately needed front line services to support families to ensure that mandatory FGC referrals are completed; improved services.

I came into politics in order to defend the children of the poor and help make sure that families receive the services they deserve. Councillors are more aware of their responsibility to ‘looked after children’ and the CEO is reviewing the case following a subsequent meeting with the XXXX Leader.

The one simple thing that can never be altered is my granddaughters’ heritage, we are blood relatives, our granddaughters will always be dearly loved and wanted; this can never be obliterated. Hopefully they will be reunited with family members, who if given the opportunity could have applied (if need be) for a RO via private law.

The Court has the power to remedy matters and take the more proportional approach that the LA has not done to-date. Please take into consideration our views and concerns when making your decisions about our granddaughters futures.

[marpat]

It is true, power seems to be given to those least fit to benefit others from it. Perhaps that is the problem though, those that seek it are generally those who have vested interests at heart.

I must admit that I have not come across many people who's children have been taken from them. I am aware of some people who have been accused of child neglect and then had visits from social services, who then found no evidence of neglect. Perhaps it depends on the area you live in and who runs the show in any place.

[ms hope]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217982/Top-Ofsted-job-official-embroiled-council-child-sex-scandal.html

wolves in sheeps clothing

[ms hope]

http://spookterror.blogspot.com/2008/11/child-abuse-rings-haringey-islington.html

abuse goes right to the top

[ms hope]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/05/suicide-leap-teenage-girls

these poor girls killed themselves whilst in care

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/03/08/ex-pupil-s-48-hours-of-hell-at-good-shepherd-centre-86908-20343924/

abuse in the same 'care' home

[ms hope]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218247/New-nursery-paedophile-shock-play-centre-worker-pleads-guilty-12-separate-child-abuse-charges.html

another sick weirdo child molester who worked in a nursery

[ms hope]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218804/Woman-teacher-exposed-predatory-paedophile-sexually-abused-young-children-followed-public-toilets.html

a woman teacher abusing children