Niggling between Conspiracy-Forums?

[quetzalcoatl]

OK it's nothing new.. Un-hived Minds pic of Icke eluding him to British intel. & more recently on Icke's site 'latest headlines' - 'UnHived Mind – Still in the Hive'. Like putty in their hands anit ya'll? :mad:

Has the hate infected you? Are you now becoming that which you despise? http://usera.imagecave.com/plumed_serpent/avatar_8168.gif

Your thoughts please.

[cruise4]

I don't hate and I certainly don't fear. Does anyone here 'fear'. This is one of the things I don't get. Its INTERESTING.

Nor do I believe... I am in an ever changing flux of opinion.

[quetzalcoatl]

Good work. Fear/hate is the mind killer.

[cruise4]

Sometimes forums are like fishing....

You gotta reel 'em in:D

[mada88]

fear is the mind killer? but isn't the mind with all its thoughts not you? isn't it a programme following its instructions. Kill the mind I say.

[quetzalcoatl]

Cruise4 Please..

Yes, that's exactly what they're up to. :rolleyes:

Sorta reeks of that Ancient Jesuit technique of rubbing both side against each-other.

No-one can fix this realm, while thinking as we do.

[garth]

Mate, maybe I'm a bit dumb or something but I can't see where anyone is having a dig at the unhived mind site, can you point it out for me?

Quoted from david icke news page
THE ‘UNHIVED MINDS’ …
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/August%202007/bee_hive.jpg
… STILL IN THE HIVE
The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out Over The Weekend

'A British politician once said that he could cope with the opposition, but his own side frightened him to death. His words are equally appropriate within the arena of conspiracy research.

I have met so many people over the years, including researchers and authors, who think their minds are free simply because they speak and write about aspects of the global conspiracy. But most of them are not free-thinkers at all because they continue to carry belief systems, often religious, that enclose their minds behind walls of dogma that construct and obstruct their sense of reality.

Many dismiss anything that is outside their religious belief system and condemn those who present another view. In the United States this is, to a large part, the result of the conspiracy research movement being so connected to the Christian Patriot movement that has no interest in true freedom, only the freedom for its religious belief system to prevail in place of the one it seeks to expose.

I am delighted when anyone, no matter what their belief, takes the trouble to communicate information that people need to know about the way the world is controlled and manipulated, but they do a great disservice to the greater good if they insist that anyone who goes further than them must be either mad or an agent of the state.'

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/August%202007/beekeeper.jpg

[quetzalcoatl]

Stupid me.. what was I thinking?

I must be chronically paranoid.

Of-course it 'WAS' a response to Icke's pic. Get real buddy.

Also it's missing the Good morning Reverend.. isn't it good to think for yourself..

[garth]

I'm serious dude, put ya sarcasm back in it's box please.

So does unhived mind have a Christian connection? I haven't read anything there so I'm asking?

[matrixcutter]

fear is the mind killer? but isn't the mind with all its thoughts not you? isn't it a programme following its instructions. Kill the mind I say.
Kill the mind?

Does that mean you'll be accepting a brain chip when the time comes?

[quetzalcoatl]

Originally Posted by mada88
fear is the mind killer? but isn't the mind with all its thoughts not you? isn't it a programme following its instructions. Kill the mind I say.

Originally Posted by matrixcutter
Kill the mind?

Does that mean you'll be accepting a brain chip when the time comes?



I think Mada88 was referring to the instructions of the 'programme' as-in 'kill the mind part' that chooses from the 'fear' category. That's what I took from it.

[quetzalcoatl]

I'm serious dude, put ya sarcasm back in it's box please.

So does unhived mind have a Christian connection? I haven't read anything there so I'm asking?


http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?

[john white]

Mate, maybe I'm a bit dumb or something but I can't see where anyone is having a dig at the unhived mind site, can you point it out for me?

Quoted from david icke news page
THE ‘UNHIVED MINDS’ …
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/August%202007/bee_hive.jpg
… STILL IN THE HIVE
The David Icke Newsletter Goes Out Over The Weekend

'A British politician once said that he could cope with the opposition, but his own side frightened him to death. His words are equally appropriate within the arena of conspiracy research.

I have met so many people over the years, including researchers and authors, who think their minds are free simply because they speak and write about aspects of the global conspiracy. But most of them are not free-thinkers at all because they continue to carry belief systems, often religious, that enclose their minds behind walls of dogma that construct and obstruct their sense of reality.

Many dismiss anything that is outside their religious belief system and condemn those who present another view. In the United States this is, to a large part, the result of the conspiracy research movement being so connected to the Christian Patriot movement that has no interest in true freedom, only the freedom for its religious belief system to prevail in place of the one it seeks to expose.

I am delighted when anyone, no matter what their belief, takes the trouble to communicate information that people need to know about the way the world is controlled and manipulated, but they do a great disservice to the greater good if they insist that anyone who goes further than them must be either mad or an agent of the state.'

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/August%202007/beekeeper.jpg

Good little article that, very true David

[garth]

Looks like it's 2tuffs site ha, he used to post here some time ago. From what I remember he was pretty anti religion.

I suppose ya make of it what ya will.

[cruise4]

Passed me by completely until that link was posted. All seems a bit childish. Everyone wants to corner the market on the truth. Precious little, like none, evidence I can see going around.

Alex Jones... CIA I just cannot have. That is a stretch too far for me!

[quetzalcoatl]

Definitely gets rather far-fetched & childish. I don't swallow that either; I can sense a spook a mile away!. Can't fully bunk the claims of Jones is an asset/agent, on the pay roll etc.. But it seems highly unlikely.

Guess I just expected a little more from David Icke. Hence; why I'm here, not there. (Although ya know what they say about expectations).


I suppose ya make of it what ya will.
True.

Just think it's time we all rose up above the BS!

[john white]

OK, I went and bothered myself to have a look

This thread answers two mysteries in one go, becuase it also contains the link to the recent Watt's claims... (EDIT: scratch that, its the show from last year: Sorry!)

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=23930&st=0

(PS The direct SIS claim on this thread comes from minutemanmatt, who regulars at Harris's old forum will remember as.... Cade Foster!)

[logic bomb]

It was all about the banner that 2tuff put at the top of his site (recently replaced) that outlined a number of well known influential public figures or researchers. David Icke was highlighted as British SIS by 2tuff ( minuteman/cade is just his lapdog ).

What I will say is that if that is not true, and it certainly has its merits, then he would have been the only one highlighted who is not an intelligence shill as the others mentioned side by side certainly are.

Silly tit for tat stuff really. Icke (or his team) have linked to 2tuffs work a couple of times in the past if memory serves.

lb

[1 2 free]

People who push the Jesuit stuff heavily are forever accusing people who don't 100% agree with them as being Jesuits, CIA, MI5, MI6, etc. I've yet to see any convincing evidence to back any of their allegations up.

[james777]

fear is the mind killer? but isn't the mind with all its thoughts not you? isn't it a programme following its instructions. Kill the mind I say.

It's funny and I'm just curious a little bit.......when I said 'we need to kill our flesh', I was ridiculed.......why then do you say the same things??

[joss classey]

The War Is With Yourself

You Think You're Fighting Something Out There

But You're Not.

We.just.need.to.let.go

[quetzalcoatl]

Let he who is with-out sin cast the first stone. No one can claim that privilege. I totally understand why DI retaliated, & @ least he kept it in the realm of the relative.

I guess sometimes I'm harder on the people I like.

[quetzalcoatl]

We can all see through the BS bickering. However, still trying to determine weather there's any substance to Un-Hived-Minds claim DI is manipulated by Brit-Intel, no doubt they're hacking back this site though. He's definitely not consciously trying to mis-lead. I just wonder why he retaliated? totally not his style, when does Icke get suckered into defending himself from BS?

Anyway, big-picture, we can all learn/develop from all this crap, especially people of my generation. The future is ours!

The moment we stop questioning, we stop learning.

[kashmirz]

If people wanted it to cease, it would, there is not one person who is going to fix the bickering amongst us, the only people who can do that are us...

its quite simple ... you dont want hate and bickering

stop

its just that simple :) when you stop, the guy next to you stops ... etc


so stop

[quetzalcoatl]

No-one gives a fuck about bickering. It's about truth.

Obviously this is far too sensitive issue for some.

I don't swallow it for-a-second that Icke is SIS or a Mason. It gets a wee bit of a grey area around weather he's manipulated or not. I lean towards not.

But so far nothing offical. & if this site is being 'maliciously hacked', I would've expected some sort of warning.

Maybe you need to re-read this thread. & with all due respect; just maybe you've missed the whole message of Ickes work.

[quetzalcoatl]

'They/Them' would want nothing more than those whom are closest to the truth i.e. DI & Craig Oxley – to waste energy/time on fighting amongst themselves.

I thought there was a bigger picture, but maybe not.

[earthseed]

I remember on the old David Icke forum someone accused 2tuff of being Sherry Shriner. 2tuff didn't like that LOL Anyway I don't know who 2tuff is hides behind an internet persona at least David's a real person. The new killer is to call everyone a secret society member so people will stop listening to them and listen to you and buy your stuff of course! Sort of like a dog that bites you and than runs away and hides from you. 2tuff is really just helping promote David by attacking him might make someone look him up. :rolleyes:

[cruise4]

Power Corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Maybe we are seeing how it starts.

[quetzalcoatl]

Thanks for your in-put Earth Seed.

I remember old DI forum.. those were the days, the days of Innocence! I was around 20 yrs old then.. good times. :D

TBH - I can't be fucked with this shite any-more. I can't grow from this anymore. You make interesting points all mootable though, but I'm through. just CBF.

My job is done. ;)

[thirdwave]

OK it's nothing new.. Un-hived Minds pic of Icke eluding him to British intel. & more recently on Icke's site 'latest headlines' - 'UnHived Mind – Still in the Hive'. Like putty in their hands anit ya'll? :mad:

Has the hate infected you? Are you now becoming that which you despise? http://usera.imagecave.com/plumed_serpent/avatar_8168.gif

Your thoughts please.


that forum and A Watt has continually laid into David Icke and have basically accused him of being apart of the elite who want to turn the world into a prison.

it has also been razed by many skeptics here and questions have been put forward to him even though there is not one speck of evidence to back up such a silly claim!

So Icke has every right to dedicate one of his news letters to this putting forward facts and arguments against such claims.... I think its about time and at least he has been very open about it and not snaking around like Watt.

whats wrong with throwing your cards on the table?

On top of that I think he hit the nail on the head and exposed allot of these people for being the narrow minded people they really are... and without even knowing it are enforcing the "reality" that the elite really want.


(Impression of Watt)
anyone else out their find this repy thing hard to get your head around? ...how about this?.. Icke works for the elite!!! ...is that better for ya to get your head around?? now come sit next to me so we can talk about how screwed up things are and let everything else fly waaaaaaaaaaaay over our heads.

[1 2 free]

I thought the newsletter was great. Not just for what he said about the Jesuit brigade but also the stuff on Dawkins and the pseudo skeptics. I also got it emailed to me. The first time I've had one of the newsletters emailed to me so thanks to whoever sorted that out. :)

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Salutations & Greetings!:

I have 'heard': 2tuff/craig oxley is a 'Temporal Co-adjutor'!

Say it ain't so craig!!!!

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[woghd]

These people (who try to build themselves up by tearing Icke down) have been in these forums trolling and derailing threads. Icke has every right to set the record straight. At least he's classy enought to drop the subject once he has made his case, something I doubt the player-haters will do.

Archangel

[quetzalcoatl]

Cheers Guys.

You all make great points; DI has every-right to defend him-self. Never really noticed this was going on for so long.

Yet I do still feel it's still a giant waste of time & energy. Especially since we can all see through their BS. But obviously Icke has said his peace & IMHO claimed the moral high-ground. Good job. :D

On-ward & up-ward! :)

[william_mac]

So many people on here are like... Australian. I wish I could say "mate" and "niggling" without sounding silly, but I can't. It just sounds cool when everyone else says it. Hah hah. Seriously, I'm just giddy with the subtle slang differences with other cultures... I dig it, man.



-William
www.William-Mac.om

[quetzalcoatl]

Aussie accents aren't too bad, at least they're comprehendible. As opposed to Kiwi accents – their inability to sound certain words, like display an audible difference between 'ear' & 'air' & then how they say 'milk'. Really irritates me.

Next person to say "ya want 'moke' in ya tea mate?" Is going to get throttled! :D No excuse.. When it's as simple as sticking your tongue against the top of your mouth.

I usually like celebrating cultural diversity, yet I draw the line with 'moke'. :D

[garth]

Aussie accents aren't too bad, at least they're comprehendible. As opposed to Kiwi accents – their inability to sound certain words, like display an audible difference between 'ear' & 'air' & then how they say 'milk'. Really irritates me.

Next person to say "ya want 'moke' in ya tea mate?" Is going to get throttled! :D No excuse.. When it's as simple as sticking your tongue against the top of your mouth.

I usually like celebrating cultural diversity, yet I draw the line with 'moke'. :D

LOL mate, can hear Lyn of Tawa saying Moke right now..:D

[limelady]

Aussie accents aren't too bad, at least they're comprehendible. As opposed to Kiwi accents – their inability to sound certain words, like display an audible difference between 'ear' & 'air' & then how they say 'milk'. Really irritates me.

Next person to say "ya want 'moke' in ya tea mate?" Is going to get throttled! :D No excuse.. When it's as simple as sticking your tongue against the top of your mouth.

I usually like celebrating cultural diversity, yet I draw the line with 'moke'. :D


Hahaha....to me it sounds more like mawk :D:D:D

[quetzalcoatl]

Thats the one Lime! :D

[i_am]

Hahaha....to me it sounds more like mawk :D:D:D

If a bear is a beer, what is a beer? :p

[cruise4]

Nobody... I repeat Nobody says "I dig it, man" :D

[celtic isis]

fear is the mind killer? but isn't the mind with all its thoughts not you? isn't it a programme following its instructions. Kill the mind I say.

i agree :)

two words - richard carlson (RIP)

[celtic isis]

Nobody... I repeat Nobody says "I dig it, man" :D

LOL :D only one of my exes...yep shows why he's an "ex" doesn't it lol :D

[quetzalcoatl]

Nobody... I repeat Nobody says "I dig it, man" :D

That re-minds me, No-one really says Niggling either !!! :D