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geewhizz
24-09-2009, 04:10 PM
wow,

Its coming....http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Census-Worker-Bill-Sparkman-Had-Fed-Scrawled-On-His-Chest-When-Found-Hanged-Official-Says/Article/200909415388317?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_A rticle_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15388317_US_Census_Worker_Bill_Sparkma n_Had_Fed_Scrawled_On_His_Chest_When_Found_Hanged% 2C_Official_Says

3_3_3
24-09-2009, 06:54 PM
wtf? this is not good. killing a fed or anybody makes you just as bad as the worst of them.

funkyjesus
24-09-2009, 06:58 PM
wow,

Its coming....http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Census-Worker-Bill-Sparkman-Had-Fed-Scrawled-On-His-Chest-When-Found-Hanged-Official-Says/Article/200909415388317?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_A rticle_Teaser_Region_4&lid=ARTICLE_15388317_US_Census_Worker_Bill_Sparkma n_Had_Fed_Scrawled_On_His_Chest_When_Found_Hanged% 2C_Official_Says

What's coming exactly?

dolores1
24-09-2009, 07:34 PM
What's coming exactly?

I could hardly believe you wrote this until I realised people are becoming aware gradually.

Read David Icke's books.

Read the first one written in 92/93 and you will see every thing he spoke of is happening now exactly as I write.

cpfc12
24-09-2009, 07:53 PM
I could hardly believe you wrote this until I realised people are becoming aware gradually.

Read David Icke's books.

Read the first one written in 92/93 and you will see every thing he spoke of is happening now exactly as I write.

Do you advise that we go about killing all government employees then ?? my next door neighbour works for royal mail should i do him in, for all the oppression he is doing to us (rolls eyes)

whiterain
24-09-2009, 09:01 PM
Do you advise that we go about killing all government employees then ?? my next door neighbour works for royal mail should i do him in, for all the oppression he is doing to us (rolls eyes)

i think you read that wrong mate

cpfc12
24-09-2009, 09:33 PM
i think you read that wrong mate

My mistake :D

But yeah r.i.p

decim
25-09-2009, 01:25 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

kweli
25-09-2009, 01:29 AM
Don't you think this could be a set up? You know.. blame the dissenters, the anti government crew, the conspiracy theorists? We're all nutters after all.

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 01:36 AM
The Census workers are taking GPS coordinates at everyone's door here in the USA- nuff said...

I feel bad for that mans family, but he was a traitor willing to sell out his Nation for a paycheck. I dont condone this but I dont condone what the census is doing either and maybe they will think twice before coming into our Mountains to GPS our front doors.

EDIT: You guys need to understand also that its very different down here- We value our privacy and our rights. Thats why the majority of us live here... I live right outside Clay Co.- If your not from here, you just wont understand... Other place in the USA are willing letting the Census come to their front door, take GPS coordinates, ask how many guns you have, what route you take to work, etc. etc.

Down here those questions are impolite and nosey- Especially when they come from the Government who is threatening fines and jail time for not answering...

decim
25-09-2009, 01:42 AM
The bloke being interviewed was very cagey.

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 01:45 AM
Don't you think this could be a set up? You know.. blame the dissenters, the anti government crew, the conspiracy theorists? We're all nutters after all.

NO

decim
25-09-2009, 01:59 AM
Could be another Ruby Ridge on the cards, that's if the government dare risk it.

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 02:06 AM
Not here- Ruby Ridge was 1 family- This is a Community of thousands.

Things here work differently- People mind their own business and stay out of things that dont concern them- And this guy dosent really concern anyone anymore....

leviathanstaar
25-09-2009, 05:15 AM
David Spade: Hey ptb, 1976 just called, they want their psyop back

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 05:22 AM
David Spade: Hey ptb, 1976 just called, they want their psyop back

LOL- I hate it when 1976 calls and I'm expecting a call from 1969. I tell 1976 to "fuck off and dont call back" =P

leviathanstaar
25-09-2009, 05:48 AM
lol!

veritasvoice
25-09-2009, 05:48 AM
NO

Nothing about this says psyop to you, Blue?

~ They are making a big deal about the body being found on 9/12; obvious references there to Glenn Beck and Fox News.

~ I know the kind of community you're talking about, and I cannot imagine that those folks are going to lynch one old guy with a GPS unit, as angry at the government as they might be right now. I live in a similar area, and folks are pissed beyond belief, but are still law abiding. If the government came door to door rounding people up or God forbid, illegally confiscating guns...that's a different matter...then you'd see something. But the census is viewed as pretty much a nuisance, if anything.

After all, for all the vocal outrage, Americans are proving extremely tolerant to the propaganda that TPTB are spreading; and despite the many smears they've leveled against the militia and survivalists, despite all of the many slaps in the face to American sovereignty and values, they're seeing a distinct lack of violent responses.

Instead, people who are clued up to their schemes are digging in and preparing to resist, going off-grid, growing their own food, stocking up and disconnecting from the system.

True to form, TPTB are putting forward a problem, but people are not reacting to it in the way that they want for them to roll in their solution of martial law.

If they can't goad people into violence, I'm guessing that they are going to fake some kind of "right-wing extremist uprising" by staging actual attacks on Federal employees, which will manufacture public consent among the 'left' for a) confiscatory gun control, and b) suspension of Constitutional rights for "domestic terrorist suspects".

It's exactly what they did with 9/11, the 'right' and the PATRIOT Act; they managed to convince one camp of people that it was *necessary* while the rest of the country screamed that it was unconstitutional and fascist.

We've already got the Military Commissions Act 2006, and we've had The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 waiting in the wings, plus Directive 51, the CyberSecurity Act and a host of other executive orders ready to activate.

Edit:

Here's a few comments from some random blogs and posts talking about this.

"A cop gets shot by some NRA-loving Fox News watcher.

A doctor gets shot by some anti-abortion Fundie.

And now a government worker gets hanged by some anti-government psychos.

The Republican Party is a breeding ground for terrorists."

"I can say this with almost absolute certainty... The person who killed this poor man listens to Glenn Beck and hates our President."

"If it is indeed a politically motivated murder, we might as well call it what it is--terrorism. If it is, we ought to unleash the full power of the federal government as defined by Bush/Cheney, and give the bastards some real intervention to fear. I'm curious how much farther we'll devolve into this kind of crap, and what we'll ultimately have to do about it.

I'm usually a Posse Comitatus kind of guy, but this kind of behavior falls quite firmly into the "domestic" category of "...all enemies foreign and domestic...". It isn't an oath I'd have a difficult time upholding.

Is health care and social progress really this freaking scary over there in Kentucky?"

So in the name of "social progress", this person is willing to toss out Posse Comitatus (not that it really applies since the Military Commissions Act is still in effect) and deploy troops against civilians? Yeah, this must be the caring sharing face of "liberal" (fascist) America. And what the hell does healthcare have to do with a murder?

And check out this article:

http://www.wisn.com/politics/21089914/detail.html

"The most deadly attack on federal workers came in 1995 when the federal building in Oklahoma City was devastated by a truck bomb, killing 168 and injuring more than 680. Timothy McVeigh, who was executed for the bombing, carried literature by ultra-right-wing, anti-government authors."

The good old McVeigh card, just to further drive home the association of the "right" (i.e. the people who are currently dissenting against government) with "domestic terrorism".

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Nothing about this says psyop to you, Blue?

No- Although anythings possible
~ They are making a big deal about the body being found on 9/12; obvious references there to Glenn Beck and Fox News.
Thats when it was found- No hidden meaning there I can pretty much assure you. It had to be found sometime (or not) and this was obviously intended to be found- Similar to killings of Narcs- The killer(s) obviously meant to make a statement.
~ I know the kind of community you're talking about, and I cannot imagine that those folks are going to lynch one old guy with a GPS unit, as angry at the government as they might be right now. I live in a similar area, and folks are pissed beyond belief, but are still law abiding. If the government came door to door rounding people up or God forbid, illegally confiscating guns...that's a different matter...then you'd see something. But the census is viewed as pretty much a nuisance, if anything.
Yeah, as of four years ago you would be right- The new Census guidelines, however, are very disturbing (to say the least) and are against the very Law and the Constitution the "Law abiding" people tend to cherish... To start "rounding" up people or "confiscating" guns they need this census to know how many guns you have, when you leave for work, what hours you work, what route you drive to work, who is in your home when your at work, GPS coordinates to your front door, etc., etc., etc. (all things asked on the new Census- Jailtime and fines for not answering or being dishonest)... More than a nuisance- A breach of privacy with threat of force

EDIT: Another thing is, in KY you dont have to register guns its essentially cash and carry... This Census is a way to force people to 'register' in a way
After all, for all the vocal outrage, Americans are proving extremely tolerant to the propaganda that TPTB are spreading; and despite the many smears they've leveled against the militia and survivalists, despite all of the many slaps in the face to American sovereignty and values, they're seeing a distinct lack of violent responses.
I agree-
Instead, people who are clued up to their schemes are digging in and preparing to resist, going off-grid, growing their own food, stocking up and disconnecting from the system.
I agree here as well (my plan) but there are groups who are not so peaceful as you and I and they know a full on fight will just be a quick end- They are resorting to actual Terrorism because (honestly) theres not much else they can do... this has halted the Census here... I dont condone violence and certainly not murder (I am sure this guy felt he was just doing his job and that it was just a simple Census) but lines are being drawn that blur a distinction between "just doing your job" when your job includes GPSing my door and interrogating me with questions I must answer while I am still (supposedly) a free American and not charged with any crime... The Gestapo was just doing his job as well.
True to form, TPTB are putting forward a problem, but people are not reacting to it in the way that they want for them to roll in their solution of martial law.
There are much better ways to achive Martial Law than killing a Census worker in Kentucky
If they can't goad people into violence, I'm guessing that they are going to fake some kind of "right-wing extremist uprising" by staging actual attacks on Federal employees, which will manufacture public consent among the 'left' for a) confiscatory gun control, and b) suspension of Constitutional rights for "domestic terrorist suspects".
Not everything is staged
It's exactly what they did with 9/11, the 'right' and the PATRIOT Act; they managed to convince one camp of people that it was *necessary* while the rest of the country screamed that it was unconstitutional and fascist.
...No. Maybe if thousands of Census workers were simultaneously killed across different States (that would be a psy op) they could prove the need to enact laws like the Patriot Act... You dont give TPTB enough credit.A psy op would be much better so they could show the people there is a threat to everyone- Now, if this starts happening in different areas and becomes a "thing" I will agree 100% that this was all staged.
We've already got the Military Commissions Act 2006, and we've had The Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 waiting in the wings, plus Directive 51, the CyberSecurity Act and a host of other executive orders ready to activate.

Edit:

Here's a few comments from some random blogs and posts talking about this.







So in the name of "social progress", this person is willing to toss out Posse Comitatus (not that it really applies since the Military Commissions Act is still in effect) and deploy troops against civilians? Yeah, this must be the caring sharing face of "liberal" (fascist) America. And what the hell does healthcare have to do with a murder?

And check out this article:

http://www.wisn.com/politics/21089914/detail.html



The good old McVeigh card, just to further drive home the association of the "right" (i.e. the people who are currently dissenting against government) with "domestic terrorism".

Again, I will reiterate my thoughts... The Mcveigh incedent, 9-11 and a host of other tragedy were certainly "inside jobs" to pass fucked up laws and such... This is more than likely not. This is probably a few sick fuckers who have just had enough and are fighting back in the only way they can see how. An inside job would have been much, much bigger than this.

Also, although this is a very low crime area- Narcs and Snitches are sometimes killed this way to make a statement... This fits in with the whole 'backwoods justice" that has dotted this areas history. You are safer walking around here in the middle of the night than almost any place I can think of. The people are good, honest folk- BUT this is not the place to cross someone.

And last let me state that I dont condone any of this- I just kinda understand it. My feelings are this was a local issue (no inside job) and probably will be solved quickly AND probably link to an individual or small group that really is dangerous and really should be off the street... BUT if this begins to happen in different States- I will have to re evaluate my opinion.

EDIT: The news was also wrong from what I here- He was a Census worker in Laurel County not Clay, but was found in Clay county @ the Daniel Boone National Forest.

pinkgeranium
25-09-2009, 12:48 PM
I really hope this was not murder, This is not the way to protest.......:mad:


Acording to the news report, this man was a single parent, working
2 jobs....... Could this have been Suicide?


Either way its very sad

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 01:00 PM
If it was Suicide, he first carved 'FED' into himself... No note and the authorities kept this pretty quiet until now and they are saying it was murder. (and I believe them)

djsmallz
25-09-2009, 01:54 PM
IM 50% SURE that they would make some sort of connexion to conspiracy theorists, perhaps why not even try to accusse alex jones supporter etc.. watch.. they might make it look as a series of killings (i.e having numerous people murdered with athe same marks or similar marks on their chest) and creatE a HOAX..

call me crazy but they've shown us (through HOLLYWOOD ) especially how they make it work and believable to the general public

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 02:03 PM
'Obviously' this WAS done by Conspiracy Theorist/Patriots or whatever.

Kinda hard not to see that connection.

kweli
25-09-2009, 02:13 PM
'Obviously' this WAS done by Conspiracy Theorist/Patriots or whatever.

Kinda hard not to see that connection.

Why 'obviously'? What about reports that he could have stumbled upon some illegal activity?

"A local police chief, Jeff Culver, said the area has a history of methamphetamine manufacture and other drug trading."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/24/census-worker-hanged-fed

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 02:24 PM
I live here- I know this... It wouldnt have been handled this way. If he were wandering around the Daniel Boone Forest and stumbled across something he would have been left alone or he would have never been found- ever.

He was hung and had the word FED carved in him- That dosent happen for stumbling upon something.

brainstormed
25-09-2009, 02:34 PM
"If they can't goad people into violence, I'm guessing that they are going to fake some kind of "right-wing extremist uprising" by staging actual attacks on Federal employees, which will manufacture public consent among the 'left' for a) confiscatory gun control, and b) suspension of Constitutional rights for 'domestic terrorist suspects.' "



This is the proverbial nail on the head.

I was at a fellow truther friend's house when the census taker visited. He was very persistent about his questions about the number of people living in the house etc, despite repetitive responses from my friend; "I don't have to answer any questions. Do your business and get off my property."

It was actually quite creepy when he took the picture of their front door. It felt like when the hurricane Katrina rescue workers put a big X on the front doors of the houses they found dead people in. Preparation?

pinkgeranium
25-09-2009, 07:42 PM
If it was Suicide, he first carved 'FED' into himself... No note and the authorities kept this pretty quiet until now and they are saying it was murder. (and I believe them)

I did not know it was caved into him, thought it was written.


Whos to say it was'nt carved into him after he was found dead....?


You've got to admit it would be a great way to defame people who question the Gov.

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Yup, it would certainly be- Were it on a mass scale... Even on a small scale this has flooded our area with scrutiny and investigation and... FEDS. So if the point was to warn the "FED's" off- It did the opposite.

"Carved" in him is an assumption- Its a common thing that happens to snitches (although murder isnt common here- It does happen) by hanging them and carving NARC or SNITCH into them to desecrate the body- So this assumption is not entirely baseless and I would bet money that is the case here as opposed to a sign.

nineroot
25-09-2009, 09:40 PM
Hey all, just seen this thread and thought a different Fed. You guys seem to be talking about feds as in fbi or government agents, and thats possibly what is being suggested as he was working for the government collecting data.

I however see death and fed as perhaps a symbolic signal, end of the federal reserve ?

Note Ron Paul has a book out "End the Fed"

http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-09-16/ron-paul-on-his-new-book-end-the-fed/

bluegrazz
25-09-2009, 10:25 PM
I leave this thread for good with a final prophecy.

The person or persons who did this will be caught sooner, rather than later. They are probably shitting their pants right now since this has gotten National attention. They probably left a million clues that the local police would have 'failed' to find (the cops dont want this attention anymore than any of us do- we have really good police officers here- Good as in lenient and polite, not as in Sherlock Holmes good if ya get my drift) but the Feds are no Joke and have so much technology and resources that we cant even imagine- And right now this seems to be a big priority to them.

The person or persons will be heavily involved in the Conspiracy/Truth/Patriot movement and when they are caught there will be threads all over the place on Forums such as this speculating that they were mind controlled. They will probably have little education and not have true grasp of the Patriot movement but rather they will be the types to find Conspiracy in everything- The MSM will use them as Poster Child(ren) for our movement while 'our' movement will use them as Poster Child(ren) for mind controlled people... Project Camelot will do an "investigation" and interview some locals who will have fun spinning tales that PC will latch onto to.

They will probably have a history of Violence (I doubt someone who could do this hasnt done similar type acts before) and generally be scumbags who enjoy hurting people and have used the 'movement' to justify their wickedness...

They will probably kill themselves first and if they do this will be picked up as "They were silenced".

The case will be closed and we can get back to our normal lives down here =P

And thus spins the everspinning wheel of Conspiracy and speculation.

NOTE: If my prophecy comes true- Expect to see ME on Project Camelot talking some crazy shit- Carrie will be interrupting me every 10 seconds and each time she does I will make my story more bizarre... Bases in the Mountains that are accessible to UFOs when the Mountaintop Opens and shit. It'll be fun, she will believe me and I will become a "speaker" on the Project Camelot tours and appear in Videos... Then I will usurp David Icke, take over this Forum and ban the Jews.

It can be a happy world for us all. =p

cpfc12
26-09-2009, 12:04 AM
I do agree with some of the comments on here that it will be made out by the press to be conspiracy theorists" or what ever they wish to call those who question ^^
From reading some reports, the area in which the census man went to, was a very rough area and he was warned not to go there after dark, has a real problem with crystal meth around there, and it can be plausible to suggest that some drug dealers or nasty scum thought he was an undercover cop or somebody along those lines.

It is sad to hear this, and worse to think that some might consider this to be a "revolutionary" act or something. I am sure the powers at be, drool and cum their pants when they hear about shit like this happen, they want us to kill and fight, it gives them energy, makes them happy. And come on this was just a lone census man, i hope he didn't die a painful death r.i.p

funkyjesus
26-09-2009, 08:57 PM
I could hardly believe you wrote this until I realised people are becoming aware gradually.

Read David Icke's books.

Read the first one written in 92/93 and you will see every thing he spoke of is happening now exactly as I write.

I just find the unfortunate murder of one poor sod, that's hardly got major news coverage on UK news channels, the sign of the apocalypse.

If this was getting Michael Jackson coverage, then maybe I'd see some sign that "it's coming" but to me, all that came is the end of this poor bloke's life.