gaddafi going off on one at UN

[keithm]

gaddafi is really going off on one at UN.
He's questioning 9/11,
saying bush and blair should be strung up for killing saddam hussein and the iraqi's,
U.S and UK soldiers should be tried for sodomizing iraqi prisoners,
he wants to know who really killed JFK and all those killed in assasinations,
the real reasons for iraq and afghan wars.
Good on him.what i want to know is why are these thugs and murders allowed in the UN?

What the hell kind of orgainization is it?

now he said the swine flu is fake,what next fish flu.

[rowantk]

gaddafi is really going off on one at UN.
He's questioning 9/11,
saying bush and blair should be strung up for killing saddam hussein and the iraqi's,
U.S and UK soldiers should be tried for sodomizing iraqi prisoners,
he wants to know who really killed JFK and all those killed in assasinations,
the real reasons for iraq and afghan wars.
Good on him.

Awesome!! Where can we see this?

[keithm]

Awesome!! Where can we see this?

http://www.streamick.com/index.php?tv=presstv

[keithm]

Qaddafi just said Al Qaeda should not be the target of the US in Iraq or Afghanistan because the planes took off from JFK and Logan Airports on 9-11.
Now Qaddafi's speech was censored again because he's talking about the JFK murder in Dallas.
WTF?

we still got ahmedinajad to come,

can he top that.

[keithm]

wouldn't like to be on his plane on his way home.

[fedora]

I was watching Qaddafi speak on a good chunk of the past conspiracies and calling out their suspicious elements and how they should be investigated. While he was doing this FOX put up a side bar next to him speaking and it contained "Interesting Facts". These included:

CIA: Qaddafi is suspected of having borderline personality disorder.

CIA: His condition causes him to have mood swings and have conspiratorial conclusions.

It went on and on suggesting that he is mentally unstable. What a blatant display of brainwashing.

[keithm]

a sky news reporter just said his speech was farcical and conspiratorial,

bunch of wankers.

[3_3_3]

this has now put truthers, including us, who share these questions against 'official stories', in the same class as qaddafi and ahmedinajad. now when someone questions tptb info they'll just turn round and say they have the same pschological issues as a terrorist dictator, so obviously a danger to society. clink clunk.

[fedora]

a sky news reporter just said his speech was farcical and conspiratorial,

bunch of wankers.

I know huh. Their propaganda is so blatant and weak. It seems like they don't even care about it being smooth anymore. Its almost like a half effort that they give to discredit people.

[el jefe]

He also said an unnamed army is responsible for creating H1N1 in their labs. I think we all know hes talking about the US

[fedora]

this has now put truthers, including us, who share these questions against 'official stories', in the same class as qaddafi and ahmedinajad. now when someone questions tptb info they'll just turn round and say they have the same pschological issues as a terrorist dictator, so obviously a danger to society. clink clunk.

I dunno. People are wising up. It just may cause them to question who the 'terrorist' really is.

[keithm]

this has now put truthers, including us, who share these questions against 'official stories', in the same class as qaddafi and ahmedinajad. now when someone questions tptb info they'll just turn round and say they have the same pschological issues as a terrorist dictator, so obviously a danger to society. clink clunk.

balls to em,they are so big and tough hiding behind there security.

let them bring it on,i quite looking forward to when the shit hits the fan.

[rosix]

this is how I see it
he's PART of the plan, he's NOT one of us - they are doing this to discredit anyone who even dares put a question mark by anything done by tptb etc.

[twistedconcept]

this has now put truthers, including us, who share these questions against 'official stories', in the same class as qaddafi and ahmedinajad. now when someone questions tptb info they'll just turn round and say they have the same pschological issues as a terrorist dictator, so obviously a danger to society. clink clunk.

Exactly. They're all controlled at that level.

[twistedconcept]

this is how I see it
he's PART of the plan, he's NOT one of us - they are doing this to discredit anyone who even dares put a question mark by anything done by tptb etc.

Basically.

Politics itself is pointless and a show for the public - much like politicians. As Quigley said, the CFR and the RIIA own all of the top level politicians.

[3_3_3]

I dunno. People are wising up. It just may cause them to question who the 'terrorist' really is.

I hope your right.

balls to em,they are so big and tough hiding behind there security.
let them bring it on,i quite looking forward to when the shit hits the fan.

i feel the same, but wiould rather the shit was hitting the fan for them than us, wich i think it is, their getting desperate.

this is how I see it
he's PART of the plan, he's NOT one of us - they are doing this to discredit anyone who even dares put a question mark by anything done by tptb etc.

I think it was icke that said 'to control the whole you need to control both sides', cant remember if it was him tho.

[3_3_3]

It's still a good thing all these 'conspiracies' as they call them are hitting the msm. It'll wake alot of people up.

[real6]

gaddafi is really going off on one at UN.
He's questioning 9/11,
saying bush and blair should be strung up for killing saddam hussein and the iraqi's,
U.S and UK soldiers should be tried for sodomizing iraqi prisoners,
he wants to know who really killed JFK and all those killed in assasinations,
the real reasons for iraq and afghan wars.
Good on him.what i want to know is why are these thugs and murders allowed in the UN?

What the hell kind of orgainization is it?

now he said the swine flu is fake,what next fish flu.

I knew there was a reason i loved him hahahahahha


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Muammar Gaddafi

Muammar Gaddafi speaks at the UN general assembly in New York. Photograph: Jason Szenes/EPA

5.33pm:
He's done! Gaddafi leaves with a blessing, an hour and 30 minutes after he started. A UN official hustles over to remove his notes from the rostrum.

"I wanted to stay until the bitter end and I think we're there," CNN presenter Tony Harris deadpans.

5.30pm:
Gaddafi just plugged his website "Gaddafi Speaks".

A new translator, a woman, has taken over the English feed. She has a pleasant voice and a milder accent. Someone buy a drink for the guy who just got off the clock.

5.26pm:
Gaddafy makes a good point about the root cause of Somali piracy, putting it down to a reaction to overfishing in Somali territorial waters by industrialised nations.

It is hard to tell through the simultaneous translation if Gaddafi is joking or not, but he just warned of an imminent "fish flu" for which industrialised nations will soon sell vaccines.

5.22pm:
The leader of the Libyan Revolution, the King of Kings, the Colonel, shows no sign of letting up. The entire roster of speakers was scheduled to be concluded by now.

Meanwhile, here is a link to Obama's speech this morning.

5.19pm:
Gaddafi demands to know who killed John Kennedy in 1963. He acknowledges that Lee Harvey Oswald fired the shot and Jack Ruby then killed him, but he wants the truth.

"Seriously, we don't know," he said.

5.18pm:
Gaddafi condemns invervention in conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, reminding the world that no one intervened in the US civil war in the 19th century.

5.03pm:
Pilkington writes: "It is quite conceivable now that he will carry on talking all day. There is no sign of the UN taking any action to stop him. Will he finally be rugby tackled and dragged off by the Secret Service?"

4.59pm:
Now nearing the end of his first hour, Gaddafi proposes moving the next general assembly to Beijing or Delhi so visiting delegations will not have to submit to onerous security requirements.

4.43pm:
Ed Pilkington writes: "Gaddafi has now talked for almost three times his allotted time - he is approaching 45 minutes - and there is no sign of any let up. He has just launched into a discourse on european colonialism, calling for Africa to have the world that was theirs but neutered back again."

4.41pm:
Gaddafi has now been speaking longer than Obama.

4.39pm:
Gaddafi just called for a permanent seat on the security council for the African Union. The remark got what may have been Gaddafi's first round of applause – from delegations from a handful of African states.

He invites anyone who disagrees to debate him – right there on the general assembly floor.

4.38pm:
Gaddafi is now complaining that UN nuclear inspectors never visit nuclear facilities at the permanent five countries.

4.34pm:
Our correspondent Ed Pilkington tells me:

Delegations are now coming back into the assembly hall. They must have calculated that Gaddafi – whose speech has already stretched to twice its 15 minute allotted time – is about to step down and that its safe
now to go back in.

4.28pm:
Gaddafi: "It should not be called the security council, it should be called the terror council."

4.25pm:
Gaddafi: "We cannot have the security council under countries which have nuclear powers. This is terrorism itself."

4.20pm:
"We are like the Hyde Park," Gaddafi said. "You are like Hyde Park". I think he means that the non-security council members are like ranters at the Speakers Corner in London's Hyde Park, railing to no effect.

"You just make a speech and then you disappear," Gaddafi said.

The remark got a good chuckle from the Chinese delegation. China is a permanent security council member.

4.18pm:
Daniel Nasaw in Washington, taking over. Thanks Matt and thanks everyone for your comments.

Now well over his time limit, Gaddafi is working up a head of steam. It sounds like the English-feed translator is having trouble keeping up. Anyone else having that trouble?
Gadaffi

4.01pm:
Gaddafi finally takes to the podium and suggests that swine flu was created for military purposes.

He brandishes a preamble to the original UN charter and begins to read passages from it. I'm not sure where he is going with this, but it could be some time.

His point is that countries cannot unilaterally act against the sovereignty of other nations. He says the UN has failed to protect the sovereignty of countries in the face of aggressive wars in 65 cases.

3.59pm:
The Guardian's diplomatic editor, Julian Borger, picks out Obama's pledge of radical cuts in America's nuclear arsenal.

3.50pm:
Gaddafi is next up, but lots of delegates are now leaving the hall. Treki appeals to them to be seated. Gaddafi is in no hurry to get to the stand.

My colleague Daniel Nasaw overheard Ban saying to Treki, "There's a danger of this for anybody who speaks after..."

Treki butted in: "After the US, yes."

Ed Pilkington in New York reports: "Obama is now leaving the UN building. US presidents don't usually hang around after their addresses but this departure is particularly poignant because Gadaffi is about to take the podium."

"There is an unexplained delay in getting Gaddafi up onto the stage. The
presiding UN people are desperately banging their gavels but to no
avail. Gadafy appears to be having a fine time chatting to
his friends at his seat within the assembly hall. When will the chaos
end?"

3.48pm:
Obama closes with this:

The United States stands ready to begin a new chapter of international cooperation – one that recognizes the rights and responsibilities of all nations. With confidence in our cause, and with a commitment to our values, we call on all nations to join us in building the future that our people deserve.

The speech lasted for 38 minutes. The applause went on for less than a minute.

3.43pm:
Obama spells out his difference with the neo-cons of the previous adminstration.

Democracy cannot be imposed on any nation from the outside. Each
society must search for its own path, and no path is perfect. Each
country will pursue a path rooted in the culture of its people, and –
in the past – America has too often been selective in its promotion of
democracy.

But that does not weaken our commitment, it only reinforces
it. There are basic principles that are universal; there are certain
truths which are self evident – and the United States of America will
never waiver in our efforts to stand up for the right of people
everywhere to determine their own destiny.

3.41pm:
His Wordle version of Obama's 5,000 word speech.
Obama-speech

3.30pm:
On terrorism and Afghanistan Obama says: "We will permit no safe-haven for al Qaida to launch attacks from Afghanistam".

On Israel and Palestine he says:

We have made some progress. Palestinians have strengthened their efforts on security. Israelis have facilitated greater freedom of movement for the Palestinians. As a result of these efforts by both sides, the economy in the West Bank has begun to grow. But more progress is needed. We continue to call on Palestinians to end incitement against Israel, and
we continue to emphasize that America does not accept the legitimacy
of continued Israeli settlements.

The time has come to re-launch negotiations – without preconditions –
that address the permanent-status issues: security for Israelis and
Palestinians; borders, refugees and Jerusalem.

The goal is clear: two states living side by side in peace and security – a Jewish State of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian
people.

3.28pm:
Tough talking on Iran and North Korea: "If the governments of Iran and North Korea choose to ignore international standards; if they put the pursuit of nuclear weapons ahead of regional stability and the security and opportunity of their own people; if they are oblivious to the dangers of escalating nuclear
arms races in both East Asia and the Middle East – then they must be
held accountable. The world must stand together to demonstrate that
international law is not an empty promise, and that Treaties will be
enforced. We must insist that the future not belong to fear."

3.21pm:
Obama urges world leaders not to use the UN to "play politics" and "stoke divisions".

3.14pm:
"Look at the concrete actions we have taken in the first nine months of office" Obama urged. He cites the closure of the Guantanamo bay detention camp, the ban on torture; measures to tackle climate change, and a commitment to a two state solution in the Middle East. He also talked about America's renewed commitment to the UN.

Here's the but: "Those who used to chastise America for acting alone in the world cannot now stand by and wait for America to solve the world's problems alone."

3.09pm:
Obama has been called to the floor. He is applauded almost as soon as he opens his mouth. "I'm well aware of the expectations of my presidency around the world," he says. He complains of a "reflexive" anti-Americanism around the world, that can act as an excuse.

2.51pm:
Brazil's president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, has started his speech (Obama is next). Lula condemns the doctrine that markets can look after themselves without regulation. Controlling the economic crisis could not be left to the "usual few", he says.

He also condemns the coup in Honduras, to warm applause. "Funding to protect the environment in developing countries is woefully insufficient," Lula adds.

He also for a new world order that is sustainable and democratic.

2.48pm:
You can watch now watch the debate on a live stream on the Guardian's site.

2.46pm:
Gaddafi has taken his seat as the general debate is about to begin. Treki urges speakers to keep their speeches to a maximum of 15 minutes.

2.44pm:
A rambling speech by Ali Abdussalam Treki, president of the general assembly, has come to an end.

2.24pm:
Ahmadinejad just been spotted in the hall. "One of his team members fell as he was walking in," according to CNN.

Canada is to boycott his speech, according to the Ottawa Citizen.

2.19pm:
Ban called for all political prisoners in Burma to be freed, including Aung San Suu Kyi. He also urged Burma's neighbours to do more to ensure next year's elections in Burma are "credible".

2.08pm:
The meeting is under way, and Ban is about to present his annual report. Ban calls for concerted action on the challenges of food, energy, recession and pandemic flu.

Ban also calls for a "push for real progress" on nuclear disarmament. "Let this be the year that we began to banish the bomb," he says.

2.01pm:
Ban Ki-moon (or someone on his behalf) has posted a Twitter update: "Attending the Opening of the General Debate," the UN secretary general tweets.

The meeting seems to be running a little late. CBS Radio says Obama won't be speaking until 10am (3pm BST).

1.48pm:
If Gordon Brown wants to work towards a nuclear-free world, much more needs to be on the table than a solitary submarine, argues John Gittings on Comment is Free.

1.38pm:
The United Nations webcast is showing delegates arriving for the meeting. They have cameras at the top of escalator and behind a revolving door. CNN's Ted Turner has just arrived. Does he count as a world leader?

1.16pm:
The Pittsburgh G20 Summit, which starts after the UN meeting, has released tantalising details of the "spousal program". Michelle Obama will welcome the wives, girlfriends, and the odd first husband, to a dinner tomorrow night at the Rosemont Farm, home of Teresa Heinz the philanthropist and wife of former US presidential candidate John Kerry. There they will be entertained by a Jazz trio and eat some of the produce of the farm.

On Friday they will treated to a school musical version of Les Miserables and performances by the cellist Yo-Yo Ma and country musician Trisha Yearwood. They'll also be going to Pittsburgh Andy Warhol Museum.

1.00pm:
Keeping world leader's to time can often been tricky. There's been a history of long-winded speeches to the UN general assembly notably from the former Cuban leader Fidel Castro. With Gaddafi, Ahmadinejad and Zimbabwe's president Robert Mugabe all due to speak, time keeping could well be a problem again.

Leaders are expected to keep their comments to just five minutes with the exception of Obama because he's going first, and as Ewen MacAskill points out, he's the president of the solo superpower.

But the organisers have allowed for speeches to run over time. In the morning session 14 world leaders are due to speak. As the session lasts for four and half hours that gives them almost 20 minutes each, according to my maths.

12.32pm:
The US ambassador to the UN, Susan Rice, has admitted that the US campaign in Afghanistan may have to change. Speaking to the broadcaster ABC she said the Obama administration's approach to Afghanistan "may have to be adjusted" to reflect the changing military, political and economic realities.

12.20pm:
Relatives of the victims of the Lockerbie bombing are planning to protest as Gaddafi speaks, according to the BBC.

The Guardian has published a new gallery of Gaddafi and his travelling tent.

11.52am:
The assembly meeting doesn't start until 2pm (9am local time) and there's been intense jockeying for position.

• The White House has released excerpts of Obama's speech in which he warns that America cannot act alone in tackling the world's problems.
• Germany has said it will walk out of the meeting if Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust as he did on Friday. And the Iranian leader has given a defiant an interview to AP.
• In article in the New York Times, Gordon Brown has set out his hopes for deal on climate change and a new nuclear nonproliferation agreement.
• The batting order for the world leader's speeches starts with an opening partnership of Brazilian president Lula and Obama with Colonel Gadiffi coming in at number three. Brown has the tricky slot of last speaker before lunch. One of the afternoon speakers is the ousted Honduran president Manuel Zelaya, but he is otherwise engaged - holed up in the Brazilian embassy in Tegucigalpa.

11.20am:
It could be the most important general assembly meeting for years with climate change, the Middle East crisis and the global recession all high on the agenda, and a speech by a US president who takes the UN seriously.

We are going to guide you through the speeches, power meetings and diplomatic snubs. And we'll update you on a number of intriguing subplots: Gaddafi and his tent; a threatened walkout of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech; and an appearance of the newly crowned world statesman of the year, Gordon Brown.

[fedora]

It's still a good thing all these 'conspiracies' as they call them are hitting the msm. It'll wake alot of people up.

I agree. Even if both sides are owned everything a person needs in order to have an "ah hah" moment is contained right there. Owned or not. With the alternative media showing folks they should question TPTB this is only another opportunity for growth.

[clozaril]

hope it gets posted on youtube !

one thing though gadaffi's son is an acquaintance of and has links with nat rothschild, i'm wondering why gadaffi snr would jeprodise his postion with the 'elite' ?

[keithm]

hope it gets posted on youtube !

one thing though gadaffi's son is an acquaintance of and has links with nat rothschild, i'm wondering why gadaffi snr would jeprodise his postion with the 'elite' ?

i was thinking that too,but it may plant a seed in peoples minds

[twistedconcept]

hope it gets posted on youtube !

one thing though gadaffi's son is an acquaintance of and has links with nat rothschild, i'm wondering why gadaffi snr would jeprodise his postion with the 'elite' ?

He wouldn't and he hasn't. It's simply a show for the public. I don't believe anything I see in politics. The real power is always behind the scenes.

[real6]

hope it gets posted on youtube !

one thing though gadaffi's son is an acquaintance of and has links with nat rothschild, i'm wondering why gadaffi snr would jeprodise his postion with the 'elite' ?

No i dont want it on youtube. It will be deleted. Id rather see it on liveleak

[kingmob]

Gadaffi is the man. Fuck the UN.

[coldinsomnia]

He wouldn't and he hasn't. It's simply a show for the public. I don't believe anything I see in politics. The real power is always behind the scenes.

Pretty much.

To those that are on one side, Gaddaffi will just appear as a nut, and so will the rest of us.

To those of us on the other side, Gaddaffi will give us the idea that there are actually 'awake' people in the high places of government that give a shit about us, and might do something to get in the way of the NWO. Har har, not likely Mr Gaddaffi, we all know how you came to power and what your links are. It'll take more than a ballsy speach to prove your loyalties!

[alchemiser]

gaddafi is really going off on one at UN.
He's questioning 9/11,
saying bush and blair should be strung up for killing saddam hussein and the iraqi's,
U.S and UK soldiers should be tried for sodomizing iraqi prisoners,
he wants to know who really killed JFK and all those killed in assasinations,
the real reasons for iraq and afghan wars.
Good on him.what i want to know is why are these thugs and murders allowed in the UN?

What the hell kind of orgainization is it?

now he said the swine flu is fake,what next fish flu.

Gaddafi is Illuminati! :rolleyes:

[keithm]

tim(prick)marshall just said on sky news that it was a childish rant,

and he also said when ahmadinejad speaks later,if he mentions the holocaust,everyone has been ordered to walk out.

[real6]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_videos?video_ids=KEjUx2vBg84,9XcmXBksXDA,A8B 1IC_BfCM,4ZOVKPYshf0,Rd2q_uVdD28,KIp4YR1hG0o,3Eqm4 JMFs_A,kDSdJNbPELo,MrW23QLhPz8,2vVDFXHPxrA,giBGsHY tCAQ,WO9rPFOUcM8,DVdWjIi1kAI,WVL_iJgd8kA,ILnMvvZoV Gc,Iy9tWXgld3Y,hhxNY-s9tzk,WxRGmcU21Dg,PcBEtYWyIzw,EZR3kHZnwC0,6cGigrrr whw,gmrrC5d4qwM,ZpMwwWXzSVw&type=0&more_url=

[majorlee]

http://www.streamick.com/index.php?tv=presstv


could not seee it here :(

[funkslug]

missed his speech...GUTTED.. saw a brief highlight, him dissing the UN security council for pickingon small countries: How right he is. Would love to shake the mans hand.....hes the king of all kings in africa and it shows...

surely the longer gadaffi/chavez/north korea stick two fingers up at the west, the longer this global government bull will take to come about?? if they are clever, shey should start constructing condo's for all the westerners who, when the s**t starts to fly, want to escape the clutches of the global government.

can we, as a group against the NWO enlist the help of these people in some shape or form??? surely they themselves would love to throw a spanner or two into the works of the illuminati???? so would we, but i bet they have some sweet answers to many of the issues we are about to face; come to think of it, bet the FSB do too.

MAKE TEA NOT WAR X

[sukyspook]

I'm posting this in a few places - apologies if you've seen it elsewhere:

From BBC (AljaBeeba) Monday 21st Sept 09 - NEWSNIGHT at 1' 11" - CHECK OUT THE SET:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00mygk7/Newsnight_21_09_2009/

[majorlee]

I'm posting this in a few places - apologies if you've seen it elsewhere:

From BBC (AljaBeeba) Monday 21st Sept 09 - NEWSNIGHT at 1' 11" - CHECK OUT THE SET:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00mygk7/Newsnight_21_09_2009/

thanx but damn iplayer only works in the UK

another classic example of TV and its regionally specific conditioning

[sukyspook]

thanx but damn iplayer only works in the UK

another classic example of TV and its regionally specific conditioning

Thanks to Cheeb on another thread ;)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6096/newsnight.png

[wazaaap]

im watching the speach now - there is no way thats what he is saying the translator is talking faster than gaddafi

[hadabusa]

swiss newspprs tried2ridicule how ahmad called the elites satanists:eek:

satanists in msm,now thats really something (in switzerland).

[real6]

Someone posted this on a forum board. I never thought of this:

yvonne

"...Gaddafi asked why Jack Ruby, "an Israeli," killed Kennedy's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, and suggested Kennedy may have been killed because of his interest in "investigating" an Israeli nuclear program." WOW!! Out of the various possible motives for JFK's assassination, I've not heard this one before--could it be? Once upon a time, I would have scoffed at the very notion of this possibility--not anymore.

And Martin Luther King, Jr., and pretty much everything else Gaddafi said was very interesting.

I'm also suspicious about who the real Lockerbie terrorist/terrorists were. The guy that was convicted for it and just got out because he's dying fairly soon, is using what little remaining time he has to try and clear his name--is that how a guilty man would spend his last days? Makes me wonder.


http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/gaddafi-conspiracy-theor/

[kingmob]

Anybody got a summary for what the Iranian premier said?

[real6]

Anybody got a summary for what the Iranian premier said?

I know, i can't find anything...

Here is some video!!!

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/09/gaddafi-conspiracy-theor/

[take it easy]

What's gadaffis user name on here?

[jakemaverick]

this has now put truthers, including us, who share these questions against 'official stories', in the same class as qaddafi and ahmedinajad. now when someone questions tptb info they'll just turn round and say they have the same pschological issues as a terrorist dictator, so obviously a danger to society. clink clunk.


true than you think! read my story!


and that link appears to be down...are they blocking me...or my crappy computer....

[sukyspook]

YES! I knew it would be posted on CSpan eventually:

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/23/HP/R/23455/Pres+Obama+Delivers+First+UN+Speech+to+General+Ass embly.aspx

[clint_giles]

awesome thanks for link

this man is mad and he is not apart of the NWO in my opinion

he is sick and tired of the worlds corruption and you can see it in his body language and how he is speaking about it.

i just wish that they had a english translator that was a little more clear speaking....albeit.

this is good news.

[real6]

awesome thanks for link

this man is mad and he is not apart of the NWO in my opinion

he is sick and tired of the worlds corruption and you can see it in his body language and how he is speaking about it.

i just wish that they had a english translator that was a little more clear speaking....albeit.

this is good news.

At first i thought you ment hes just mad period. But i agree. I hope it gets translated properly. WOuld love to really know what he really thinks on world events.

Maybe this interview will change people of how they think of him and USA and other big corrupt govts!!!

[kingmob]

Man, that translator is so annoying.

[sukyspook]

Man, that translator is so annoying.

Agreed, but sadly, for now, he's the best we have.....I'm liking what I hear from Gadhafi and however he was originally 'set up', he's sticking it to the UN and the world - Yay!!

[real6]

Agreed, but sadly, for now, he's the best we have.....I'm liking what I hear from Gadhafi and however he was originally 'set up', he's sticking it to the UN and the world - Yay!!

sAME HERE MAN, same here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[worlds beyond]

Along with many others, I never once felt that the man they jailed for the Lockerbie Bomb was the true guilty party.

If you are interested in this, one place to look is John Pilger.. has an article on Lockerbie events..


http://www.johnpilger.com/page.asp?partid=547



Lockerbie: Megrahi was framed

3 Sept 2009

"In his latest column for the New Statesman, John Pilger describes the suppression of facts behind the furore over the "compassionate" release of the so-called Lockerbie bomber, Libyan Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi. He writes that Megrahi was "in effect blackmailed by the governments of Scotland and England" so that it would not be revealed in his appeal that he had been framed for a crime he did not commit.

The hysteria over the release of the so-called Lockerbie bomber reveals much about the political and media class on both sides of the Atlantic, especially Britain. From Gordon Brown’s “repulsion” to Barack Obama’s “outrage”, the theatre of lies and hypocrisy is dutifully attended by those who call themselves journalists. “But what if Megrahi lives longer than three months?” whined a BBC reporter to the Scottish First Minister, Alex Salmond. “What will you say to your constituents, then?”

Horror of horrors that a dying man should live longer than prescribed before he “pays” for his “heinous crime”: the description of the Scottish justice minister, Kenny MacAskill, whose “compassion” allowed Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi to go home to Libya to “face justice from a higher power”. Amen.

The American satirist Larry David once addressed a voluble crony as “a babbling brook of bullshit”. Such eloquence summarises the circus of Megrahi’s release.

No one in authority has had the guts to state the truth about the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 above the Scottish village of Lockerbie on 21 December 1988 in which 270 people were killed. The governments in England and Scotland in effect blackmailed Megrahi into dropping his appeal as a condition of his immediate release. Of course there were oil and arms deals under way with Libya; but had Megrahi proceeded with his appeal, some 600 pages of new and deliberately suppressed evidence would have set the seal on his innocence and given us more than a glimpse of how and why he was stitched up for the benefit of “strategic interests”.

“The endgame came down to damage limitation,” said the former CIA officer Robert Baer, who took part in the original investigation, “because the evidence amassed by [Megrahi’s] appeal is explosive and extremely damning to the system of justice.” New witnesses would show that it was impossible for Megrahi to have bought clothes that were found in the wreckage of the Pan Am aircraft – he was convicted on the word of a Maltese shopowner who claimed to have sold him the clothes, then gave a false description of him in 19 separate statements and even failed to recognise him in the courtroom.

The new evidence would have shown that a fragment of a circuit board and bomb timer, “discovered” in the Scottish countryside and said to have been in Megrahi’s suitcase, was probably a plant. A forensic scientist found no trace of an explosion on it. The new evidence would demonstrate the impossibility of the bomb beginning its journey in Malta before it was “transferred” through two airports undetected to Flight 103.

A “key secret witness” at the original trial, who claimed to have seen Megrahi and his co-accused al-Alim Khalifa Fahimah (who was acquitted) loading the bomb on to the plane at Frankfurt, was bribed by the US authorities holding him as a “protected witness”. The defence exposed him as a CIA informer who stood to collect, on the Libyans’ conviction, up to $4m as a reward.

Megrahi was convicted by three Scottish judges sitting in a courtroom in “neutral” Holland. There was no jury. One of the few reporters to sit through the long and often farcical proceedings was the late Paul Foot, whose landmark investigation in Private Eye exposed it as a cacophony of blunders, deceptions and lies: a whitewash.

The Scottish judges, while admitting a “mass of conflicting evidence” and rejecting the fantasies of the CIA informer, found Megrahi guilty on hearsay and unproven circumstance. Their 90-page “opinion”, wrote Foot, “is a remarkable document that claims an honoured place in the history of British miscarriages of justice”. (Lockerbie – the Flight from Justice by Paul Foot can be downloaded from the Private Eye website for £5).

Foot reported that most of the staff of the US embassy in Moscow who had reserved seats on Pan Am flights from Frankfurt cancelled their bookings when they were alerted by US intelligence that a terrorist attack was planned.

He named Margaret Thatcher the “architect” of the cover-up after revealing that she killed the independent inquiry her transport secretary Cecil Parkinson had promised the Lockerbie families; and in a phone call to President George Bush Sr on 11 January 1990, she agreed to “low-key” the disaster after their intelligence services had reported “beyond doubt” that the Lockerbie bomb had been placed by a Palestinian group contracted by Tehran as a reprisal for the shooting down of an Iranian airliner by a US warship in Iranian territorial waters. Among the 290 dead were 66 children. In 1990, the ship’s captain was awarded the Legion of Merit by Bush Sr “for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer”.

Peversely, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait in 1991, Bush needed Iran’s support as he built a “coalition” to expel his wayward client from an American oil colony.

The only country that defied Bush and backed Iraq was Libya. “Like lazy and overfed fish,” wrote Foot, “the British media jumped to the bait. In almost unanimous chorus, they engaged in furious vilification and op en warmongering against Libya.” The framing of Libya for the Lockerbie crime was inevitable.

Since then, a US defence intelligence agency report, obtained under Freedom of Information, has confirmed these truths and identified the likely bomber; it was to be centrepiece of Megrahi’s defence.

In 2007, the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission referred Megrahi’s case for appeal. “The commission is of the view,” said its chairman, Dr Graham Forbes, “that based upon our lengthy investigations, the new evidence we have found and other evidence which was not before the trial court, that the applicant may have suffered a miscarriage of justice.”

The words “miscarriage of justice” are missing entirely from the current furore, with Kenny MacAskill reassuring the baying mob that the scapegoat will soon face justice from that “higher power”. What a disgrace. "





I'm also suspicious about who the real Lockerbie terrorist/terrorists were. The guy that was convicted for it and just got out because he's dying fairly soon, is using what little remaining time he has to try and clear his name--is that how a guilty man would spend his last days? Makes me wonder.

[clint_giles]

i love the applause i keep hearing in the back ground

alot of countries know the truth
it looks like it will be coming out soon!!!

[hadabusa]

hope it gets posted on youtube !

one thing though gadaffi's son is an acquaintance of and has links with nat rothschild, i'm wondering why gadaffi snr would jeprodise his postion with the 'elite' ?

moxnews has all up already:cool:

[clint_giles]

look at this article

he is now not wanted in america like he said..

no doubt he will be deemed a threat now to the usa.

article

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_re_us/us_gadhafi_new_york

[real6]

Funny how im bored and im starting to read different articles on Gaddafi and how most newpapers are saying how he ranted and did this but if you read the comments people are blasting the newspapers for lying and leaving facts out. Looks like Gaddafi did something right and people are waking up!!!

[clint_giles]

im at the 1 hour 5 minute mark and he is going on about the wars in the past and the atrocities.

this is fantastic

he is more or less calling the un council hypocrites.

asking question about who is giving the orders for these senseless wars...

this better go viral !!!

[real6]

im at the 1 hour 5 minute mark and he is going on about the wars in the past and the atrocities.

this is fantastic

he is more or less calling the un council hypocrites.

asking question about who is giving the orders for these senseless wars...

this better go viral !!!

Im at an hour. Gonna post this on my facebook and myspace. Spread this!!!

[clint_giles]

Im at an hour. Gonna post this on my facebook and myspace. Spread this!!!

oh for sure.

this is REAL NEWS.

cannot wait to hear if Mr Icke and alex jones talks about this

im sure they will

[sukyspook]

im at the 1 hour 5 minute mark and he is going on about the wars in the past and the atrocities.

this is fantastic

he is more or less calling the un council hypocrites.

asking question about who is giving the orders for these senseless wars...

this better go viral !!!

Keep watching Clint, you've obviously seen at 1′ 00″ 50 Ghadafi says: “my son Obama”, earlier: “son of Africa governs America” – so he doesn’t believe the Hawaiian BC either!!

Ghadafi asks some very interesting questions about the invasion of Iraq, the execution of Saddam Hussein and sodomy at Abu Ghraib from 1′ 09″ 00….you won’t get Obama or Gordy asking the UN to investigate those events eh??

Talk about “terrorist countries”?? imo Libya is way down any such list, if on a list at all – and certainly well below US and UK…

I'm amazed he was allowed to speak for so long but good for whoever allowed him to!

[angelmoon]

Im at an hour. Gonna post this on my facebook and myspace. Spread this!!!

posting the youtube link everywere , this is a important turning point

[clint_giles]

Keep watching Clint, you've obviously seen at 1′ 00″ 50 Ghadafi says: “my son Obama”, earlier: “son of Africa governs America” – so he doesn’t believe the Hawaiian BC either!!

Ghadafi asks some very interesting questions about the invasion of Iraq, the execution of Saddam Hussein and sodomy at Abu Ghraib from 1′ 09″ 00….you won’t get Obama or Gordy asking the UN to investigate those events eh??

Talk about “terrorist countries”?? imo Libya is way down any such list, if on a list at all – and certainly well below US and UK…

I'm amazed he was allowed to speak for so long but good for whoever allowed him to!

im at 1-13 now he is going mad about the sodomy

yes i heard him call obama his son

THIS IS AWESOME
the world is in for an enema

its about about time!!!


i might sleep good tonight finally

[aurora025]

Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?

[azureangel]

All your perspectives are helping me to see the bigger picture as a newcomer. My most optimistic version of this is, here is someone for whom the Truth is breaking through. I imagine that we may know where the message came from, depending on whether Khaddafi survives this. Or not. Ack, I just had a thought; maybe he knew they were going to take him out anyway so he opened up... :eek: I must say I'm grateful I'm not a controlled member of that group. What a nightmare.
Love, angel

[sukyspook]

Im at an hour. Gonna post this on my facebook and myspace. Spread this!!!

I don't use facebook for much - but I posted the cspan link earlier too! Lamestream media have sold us all a 'bill of goods' about Libya, especially regarding Lockerbie.....the 'official line' has always stunk imo, like 911, 777, Oklahoma, JFK etc etc etc...

[paintedlady]

He demanded $7.77 trillion for Africa and reform of the global body, which he described as a "terrorist" organisation.

Link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/6223839/Muammar-Gaddafi-dominates-with-long-speech-at-first-visit-to-General-Assembly.html

I wonder how he has calculated the figure of $7.77trillion. I have posted this same question in Numerology section if anyone has any ideas?

[worlds beyond]

Exactly... Lockerbie was one of 'their' (PTB) early/first attempts to set up and frame innocent Muslim individuals for supposed "acts of terrorism", and so begin the process of creating widespread Western 'Islamaphobia' and "Muslim Terrorism" themes... the same old Divide and Conquer trick... this time in order for the US to invade and steal resources from the Middle East, amongst other things.

Lockerbie was never an "Act of Terrorism"... at least not by the ones they pointed the finger at, framed and blamed.. that's for sure.


I don't use facebook for much - but I posted the cspan link earlier too! Lamestream media have sold us all a 'bill of goods' about Libya, especially regarding Lockerbie.....the 'official line' has always stunk imo, like 911, 777, Oklahoma, JFK etc etc etc...

[frase]

Can't fault Gadaffi at all for anything he said, absolutely bang on....
Heard teh BBC mock him earlier in their oh so objective way...i'll be phining to the Beeb tmrw to complain....
"gadaffi even claime Swine Flu was man made" the narrator said in his mocking tone....

[sukyspook]

Well, whatever anyone thinks about Gadhafi and Libya, all that had to be said and with a better interpreter, it would have been even better.

I wasn't surprised by anything he spoke about - but just the fact that he said it all to the UN and the world, was amazing in itself. Making diseases so you can sell vaccines is now exposed for all who can accept that awful practice. The same goes for financial crashes - the same people having crashed economies 'fix them' to suit their agenda and on and on it goes.

Another bunch of humanity will have been alerted to many new possibilities and I feel enthused once again that at least he wasn't lying, like the usual suspects, simply to cover previous lies....

I only hope his plane doesn't crash.....if it does....I'm not even going to go there...

[clint_giles]

a fish flu....lol

classic..

this man is my hero!

he is trying to wake up the other nations,and get a FUCKING BACKBONE AND STAND UP FOR WHATS ..RIGHT!!!

[clint_giles]

WHAT WAS THAT MESSAGE HANDED TO HIM AT 1:30 ?

and why did it get cut off for a minute i wonder?

[converger]

mo'amar algaddafi

http://www.up.6y6y.com/uploads2/3a2896ad4e.jpg (http://www.up.6y6y.com)

he is realy crazy man

[sade]

NONE of this is mentioned anywhere else but here!
And why is that dictators are always truthers? Haha......

[clint_giles]

anyone find his website yet


gadhafispeaks com org net ??

[largejack]

I'm rather of the opinion that this is another attempt to discredit us by typecasting us with Gaddafi whose image still stirs bad feelings in a lot of people. Having said that he's speaking the truth, whatever the intentions, so it's at least refreshing to hear, and who knows with the recent freed prisoner and the shadows that lie beneath that story, it might offer some encouragement.

I think the most likely situation is that he's no longer the pet he'd become in the last few years, and probably already knows he or his country is on the hit list. it's ironic don't you think that we now have to listen to 'official' dictators to get a grain of truth.


Oh! According to skynews he "praised Barack Obama and wished he was president for life!" No folks he's deluding us.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Libyan-Leader-Colonel-Moammar-Gaddafi-Attacks-UN-Security-Council-Calling-It-Terror-Council/Article/200909415387853?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15387853_Libyan_Leader_Colonel_Moammar _Gaddafi_Attacks_UN_Security_Council%2C_Calling_It _Terror_Council

[neutrino]

I'm listening to his speech right now on youtube and it's epic. :eek:

:D

[worlds beyond]

slightly diverging from his speech... this on BBC News..


"Page last updated at 11:43 GMT, Wednesday, 23 September 2009 12:43 UK


US town bans Libyan leader's tent

Aerial view of the partly erected tent in Bedford, near New York

US officials have ordered workers to stop the construction of a tent for Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi near New York, a local attorney says.

The erection of the tent "violated several codes and laws of the town of Bedford", attorney Joel Sachs says.

It also emerged the Bedouin-style tent was being set up on property rented from real estate mogul Donald Trump.

Col Gaddafi had reportedly planned to use the tent for entertaining during the UN General Assembly in New York.

Libyan officials have so far not publicly commented on the issue.

Col Gaddafi - who arrived in New York on Tuesday - traditionally shuns official residences during his trips abroad.

Trump's statement

Bedford town attorney Joel Sachs said officials had given "a stop work" order to teams pitching Col Gaddafi's tent in the town, about 30 miles (48km) north of New York.

There is no such thing as diplomatic immunity when it comes to complying with local laws

Joel Sachs
Bedford town attorney

But he said the workers did not speak English and the order was then issued to the property caretaker.

"There is no such thing as diplomatic immunity when it comes to complying with local laws and ordinances," Mr Sachs was quoted as saying by the Associated Press.

"This is a private piece of property and they have to comply with the laws of this municipality."

Mr Sachs said the authorities in Bedford had learned of Col Gaddafi's plans from the US secret service.


Col Gaddafi is due to make his first visit to the UN General Assembly
Meanwhile, Mr Trump said in a statement that part of the estate "was leased on a short-term basis to Middle Eastern partners, who may or may not have a relationship to Mr Gaddafi".

"We are looking into the matter," the statement added.

Last week, Libyan officials agreed not to pitch Col Gaddafi's tent in the grounds of a Libyan-owned property in the New Jersey town of Englewood because of opposition from local residents.

They protested against the warm welcome given in Libya to the man convicted of the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, following his release from a Scottish prison on compassionate grounds.

Dozens of families in New Jersey lost loved ones when Pan Am flight 103 blew up over Scotland. "

[frase]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6846440.ece

Times got a thread open on it.
I just posted that 9/11 was an inside job, but it never went through!
quele surprise........

[majorlee]

the imperialism is at an end

as we move into this new century it will crumble as the people awaken and technology takes us further

lets just hope that we can make it go as smoothly as possible of this rough ride of the next ten years

i hope this inspires more poeple to come out

[largejack]

the imperialism is at an end

as we move into this new century it will crumble as the people awaken and technology takes us further

lets just hope that we can make it go as smoothly as possible of this rough ride of the next ten years

i hope this inspires more poeple to come out

But he praised Obama ????????????

[majorlee]

But he praised Obama ????????????

most people are not 100% evil and we must praise someone when they do well

lets see how obama reacts, like dr peterson said, he gotta be a bit stupid to take on the job of president, but lets se if he can make a difference, i'm no fan either btw

whats the youtube link btw, c-span is a bit slow here!

[twistedconcept]

most people are not 100% evil and we must praise someone when they do well

lets see how obama reacts, like dr peterson said, he gotta be a bit stupid to take on the job of president, but lets se if he can make a difference, i'm no fan either btw

whats the youtube link btw, c-span is a bit slow here!


All of them are psychopaths at that level. You have to be.

Obama will do whatever his masters tell him to do, if he wants to continue living a life of luxury. He's no JFK.

[twistedconcept]

Also, Gaddafi was ALLOWED to continue speaking, which tells you it was all scripted.

[majorlee]

when u look at the first few minutes before he speaks the body language and actions indicate he was set up to do this, maybe not everything he said those was on cue! in th UN it would be looking guilty to stop him talking about such matters

i just wish i could get a decent feed to watch it all before i make too many judgments

any full speech links other than iplayer or c-span?

[ennui]

Says on ticker on Sky news that British representatives have walked out of Ahmadinejad's speech. I wonder what he said to get that reaction.

[bendoon]

Britain and America are to be painted as the bad guys of the world and set up for the fall.

Well they are, you might say.

But, but, they are occupied countries, the British and American people are being used by the PTB and have been for 200 years. Now they have outlived their purpose they will be ditched. People will gladly accept a new world Government under the UN and be glad to get rid of evil Britain and Merica. Only trouble is the same culprits will be in charge at the UN and 95% of the people who didn't know about them before still won't know about them.

So yes Gaddafi was given permission from the top man to make that speech.

Just my 2c.

[real6]

mo'amar algaddafi

http://www.up.6y6y.com/uploads2/3a2896ad4e.jpg (http://www.up.6y6y.com)

he is realy crazy man

But aren't all the people that spit the truth called crazy???

[real6]

Also, Gaddafi was ALLOWED to continue speaking, which tells you it was all scripted.

when u look at the first few minutes before he speaks the body language and actions indicate he was set up to do this, maybe not everything he said those was on cue! in th UN it would be looking guilty to stop him talking about such matters

i just wish i could get a decent feed to watch it all before i make too many judgments

any full speech links other than iplayer or c-span?

Maybe, who really knows???

[real6]

anyone find his website yet


gadhafispeaks com org net ??

Here you go bro!!!

http://www.algathafi.org/html-english/index.htm

[ownoiz]

Is it just me or does Gadaffi look like he has dropped too much E over the last decade :confused: :p

Maybe these thugs have recently realised that they have to confront the 'conspiracy theorists' so they tell em what they wanna hear, and we blame Bush and Blair (who are in the past)

And cheer for Obama.


President Bush failed to appear at the last climate conference, but Obama has stated that "Now, America is here"


We love you O-baaaa-ma, you are so not like that bush dickhead.

Nothing like naming a scapegoat or fall guy to make the angry people happy ;) And to stop them from looking closer at whos in charge now, or who is really in charge now.

Does Bush give a shit, while he travels between his Texan and South American ranches partying...i highly doubt it.

Gadaffi was owned in the 80's IMO, he wouldnt have had a choice, its either play ball, or become another JFK or Saddam.
.

[meet my maker]

Britain and America are to be painted as the bad guys of the world and set up for the fall.

Well they are, you might say.

But, but, they are occupied countries, the British and American people are being used by the PTB and have been for 200 years. Now they have outlived their purpose they will be ditched. People will gladly accept a new world Government under the UN and be glad to get rid of evil Britain and Merica. Only trouble is the same culprits will be in charge at the UN and 95% of the people who didn't know about them before still won't know about them.

So yes Gaddafi was given permission from the top man to make that speech.

Just my 2c.

Yes, they have taken the £ and $ to the brink of colapse, they will be revealed as the scapegoats and then bankrupted. The legatus pilgrimage to the Holy land finish's around OCT 19th so the mischief should begin around then.
http://www.legatus.org/public/Upcoming_Events/0910HolyLandPilgrimage.html

[clint_giles]

Here you go bro!!!

http://www.algathafi.org/html-english/index.htm

your the man!

thank you sir.

I got a real good feeling about his speech today,something tells me it will be the start of something good.
like i said earlier,i just might sleep a bit better tonight knowing that someone in power finally got the balls to stand up to the world,and put shame on all the nations for turning a blind eye for decades now since the start of the un council after ww2 to all the atrocites and corruption.
like gadhafi said,since this day there have been more deaths in all the sensless wars and genocides,then there was deaths in all of world war 2

2 thumbs up for this man !

[real6]

your the man!

thank you sir.

I got a real good feeling about his speech today,something tells me it will be the start of something good.
like i said earlier,i just might sleep a bit better tonight knowing that someone in power finally got the balls to stand up to the world,and put shame on all the nations for turning a blind eye for decades now since the start of the un council after ww2 to all the atrocites and corruption.
like gadhafi said,since this day there have been more deaths in all the sensless wars and genocides,then there was deaths in all of world war 2

2 thumbs up for this man !

I just hope is wasn't a puppet act :(

I don't think it was. Even if he did do some horrible things in his past, the feeling i get is that he is a tired old man and its catching up to him. He's just tired of war and everything and it's haunting. I could be wrong. That's what i feel. I hope he's not assassinated in the coming days to weeks :(

But you should see alot of news sites that have comments. The major news changing the story of what he said and the people backlashing at the news sites for lying!!!
People are waking up!!!

[coco]

Dear friends,

By the time I got home from work (over an hour's drive) Quadaffi (sp?) had finished speaking so I never saw him but I will check out the links so graciously provided here. Thank you.

Iran (can't spell his name) was speaking by the time I arrived home and by the time I finished helping in the kitchen and actually was able to sit and pay attention to his speech he was speaking of love and God and all people working together to end hunger, poverty, etc.

A family member then came into the room and interrupted by telling me that she thought Quadaffi was insane, criticized his moustache and hat, said he threw things, etc. then changed the channel. As a result I wasn't able to hear the rest of Iran's speech.

I looked about the net and found a transcript of the speech and read as far as the part I assume angered Israel and the US causing them to walk out of the assembly but then LOST the stupid site - got knocked off Iran's speech transcript! - I can get back on the UN site but am no longer able to get the specific page back as an error pops up stating there has been damage to the file. :confused:

I checked the UN Channel on youtube - nothing on Iran's speech at that time. Perhaps later.

Thank you again for the links.

Good night and sleep well. :)

[octopusrex]

Al Ghaddafi speaks! Marvelous!:D

[clint_giles]

I just hope is wasn't a puppet act :(

I don't think it was. Even if he did do some horrible things in his past, the feeling i get is that he is a tired old man and its catching up to him. He's just tired of war and everything and it's haunting. I could be wrong. That's what i feel. I hope he's not assassinated in the coming days to weeks :(

But you should see alot of news sites that have comments. The major news changing the story of what he said and the people backlashing at the news sites for lying!!!
People are waking up!!!


the news over here in north america only speaks of him going off about jfk and not getting to the real issue's of his speech.

I too am a bit hesitate on what the actual intensions are with this speech
like you said ,it could be his age and the fact he is tired of all the bullshit fighting and senseless murders.
also this speech could have a hidden agenda behind it as well?
who knows.
none the less though it was refreshing hearing a person in power with the un
council actually speaking out about the atrocites and corruption
that has been going on for a very long time now.

this speech could very well be both good and bad ?

[655321]

He sleeps in a tent.

[worlds beyond]

??? so... ?

He sleeps in a tent.

[655321]

Donald Trump kicked him out of his property. The colonel is homeless.

[azureangel]

OK, I had time to watch the whole thing; well, the CNN version with part chopped off at the end. Gaddafi was dithering so badly for at least the first 1/2 hour that I thought his brain had been purposely scrambled (microchip? implant?) Anyone who hasn't seen it yet, you can skip the first 45 minutes if you're pressed for time. All the good stuff came at the end. And after about then, he really seemed to clear up and focus, to state his case. He mentioned that Somalia had been so badly pillaged for resources that the piracy was a response for survival. Also mentioned that it had been OK for countries to dump toxic waste off of Somalian coast. Well that sure gives one a different perspective! Thanks to all who can stand to look at the "news"papers and tv "news" and clue us in. I don't have the stomach for it. Yay for Gaddafi! Yay for the world! Now what...:(

[dynamicwiseman]

Gaddafi Is the only African leader i respect, the man is a living legend. Who else could speak such truth in front of a worthless organization like the UN? Gaddafi has been trying to unite Africa so Africa can be built for the Africans. What pissed me off so much is how people are saying Gaddafi is a shill or part of the plan. No! you moron Gaddafi is his own man and can speak as he wishes. Many African leaders are jealous of Gaddafi and hate the fact that he wishes a united Africa, hence it becoming strong enough to demand more say in international events, plus the horsepower to demand premium prices for African resources.

Many local African tribes men agree with Gaddafi and wish to see a united Africa, but the devil and his army are working hard not to see that dream.

[ownoiz]

He sleeps in a tent.

When he travels.

Maybe thats because its easier to do a bug sweep.

Can you imagine what people would get up to and how far they would go to listen in on someone like him, me thinks it would be bad enough being a minor celebrity, but gaddafi vs all the listening devices available now to the other powers that be.

Staying in a hotel or similar would be an absolute mindfuck for these people id imagine...if it was me in a position like him, staying away from home where things are out of my control, id choose a tent too. Hard to hide things in a tent.

:cool:
.

[ownoiz]

Gaddafi Is the only African leader i respect, the man is a living legend. Who else could speak such truth in front of a worthless organization like the UN? Gaddafi has been trying to unite Africa so Africa can be built for the Africans. What pissed me off so much is how people are saying Gaddafi is a shill or part of the plan. No! you moron Gaddafi is his own man and can speak as he wishes.

I really do hope that is the case, i know 'they' have been trying to bitchify him for years, im hoping hes had enough because the UN is going too far now.

Couldnt think of a better word, apologies if i offend anyone :p

Bitchify (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitchify) - definition.
.

[worlds beyond]

oh the hypocrisy of these people..... they walk out of his UN speech (wasn;t just just Iran they snubbed), but they rush to do deals on Libya's oil and other resources...



"Former Pariah Qaddafi’s U.S. Trip Seals Courtship of Libyan Oil


By Steve Scherer

Sept. 22 (Bloomberg) -- The families of Americans killed in the bombing of a jetliner over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988 will protest Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi’s visit to New York this week. His United Nations counterparts may be more welcoming.

Qaddafi, who speaks at the UN tomorrow, has cemented ties with countries that shunned him for three decades and are now lured by Africa’s biggest oil reserves and a 150 billion-dinar ($123 billion), five-year government infrastructure-investment plan.

“With fewer and fewer sizable oil patches left, oil companies have incentives to acquire acreage wherever they can,” said Geoff Porter, the chief Africa and Middle East analyst for the Eurasia Group, a New York-based firm that analyzes political risks. For oil companies, doing business with a former pariah state “is worth it,” he said.

More than 40 foreign oil companies are working in Libya, including London-based BP Plc, Eni SpA of Rome, Irving, Texas- based Exxon Mobil Corp. and Occidental Petroleum Corp., which has headquarters in Los Angeles.

Qaddafi’s spending program is attracting companies such as Alcatel SA, which is based outside Paris, Munich-based Siemens AG, Milan’s Impregilo SpA and London-based Rentokil Initial Plc. Businesses from China, South Korea, Brazil and Turkey also are working in Libya, said Salah el-Houni, head of international exhibitions for Libyan media company Dar Alarab, sponsor of fairs in Tripoli for foreign firms.

“Because of the sheer size of the investment in infrastructure, it’s one of the most attractive business opportunities in the world,” said Antonio De Capoa, the chairman of the Italy-Libya Chamber of Commerce.

Qaddafi Follows Obama

Libya, which took responsibility for the Lockerbie attack in 2003, holds the presidency of the 64th UN General Assembly. Qaddafi, 67, is scheduled to address the assembly immediately after President Barack Obama, who is the third speaker at the opening session.

Outside the UN, family members of the victims of Pan Am Flight 103 will be holding signs with “murderer” written above a picture of Qaddafi, according to Bob Monetti, whose 20-year- old son, Rick, was one of the 270 killed in the terrorist bombing.

“As long as Qaddafi sits on all this oil, he can do whatever he pleases and get away with it,” said Monetti, 66, a retired medical engineer in Cherry Hill, New Jersey. “There’s no morality in politics. Politics are about business, and in Libya, business is about oil.”

Qaddafi will be speaking a month after the only man convicted of the bombing was released from a Scottish prison on compassionate grounds, sparking outrage in the U.S. and political questions over U.K. business ties with Libya.

‘Highly Objectionable’

Abdel Basset Ali al-Megrahi, who is dying of prostate cancer, received a nationally televised hero’s welcome to Tripoli on his return from Scotland on Aug. 20. Obama called the scenes of his arrival “highly objectionable.”

Al-Megrahi has since been hospitalized as he prepares an appeal, the BBC reported Sept. 12, citing his brother.

U.K. Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who said he was “repulsed” by the greeting, was forced to deny intervening in Scotland’s decision to release him after political opponents accused him of seeking to curry favor with Qaddafi.

The world’s relations with Qaddafi, who took power in 1969 and came under U.S. and UN sanctions in the 1980s and 1990s, have improved since he abandoned a nuclear-arms program and renounced terrorism between 2002 and 2005.

Leaders Meet

During that period, in 2004, Siemens, Germany’s largest engineering company, won an order worth 180 million euros ($264 million) to upgrade Libya’s power-supply grid after a visit by then-Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder.

Former U.K. premier Tony Blair visited Libya in May 2007 when BP, Europe’s second-biggest oil producer, signed an accord to conduct a $900 million exploration program with Libya’s National Oil Corp.

By December of that year, Qaddafi was pitching the Bedouin- style tent he uses while traveling in Paris as a guest of French President Nicolas Sarkozy, who said the Libyan would sign $15 billion worth of contracts. Toulouse, France-based Airbus SAS at the same time confirmed an order for 15 aircraft from Libyan Airlines.

Last year, Qaddafi paid a final installment in a compensation package to Lockerbie families, clearing the way for normalizing relations with the U.S., and settled a dispute over Italy’s colonization of Libya from 1911 to 1943.

Italian Road

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi agreed to build a $5 billion coastal highway as part of the agreement. Berlusconi visited Qaddafi last month to mark its anniversary.

Obama became the first U.S. president to meet and shake hands with Qaddafi during a summit of global leaders in Italy in June. The handshake took place 23 years after Ronald Reagan, who called Qaddafi the “mad dog of the Middle East,” ordered the bombing of the colonel’s compound, among other targets.

“Qaddafi has been very successful at engaging the West,” said Dana Moss, an analyst at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “He’s been able to remain in power, and at the same time develop the country’s oil and gas industry.”

Libya, a country of 6.3 million, counts on oil exports for a quarter of its gross domestic product, which was about $100 billion last year, according to the CIA Factbook. Proved oil reserves amount to 45 billion barrels, it said. That equates to $3.13 trillion at the current price of about $69.50 per barrel.
Oil Reserves

The country has 5 billion barrels of untapped oil, or about 12 percent of its total reserves, and is seeking to boost output to 3 million barrels a day from 1.8 million now, the government said this month.

Italy has more than tripled its oil imports from Libya since sanctions were lifted in 2003 and the African country now provides about 30 percent of Italy’s daily oil needs.

Oil is also financing Libya’s sovereign wealth fund, the Libyan Investment Authority, which has $80 billion to spend, the fund’s chairman, Abdulhafid Zlitni, told Italy’s Corriere della Sera newspaper in February.

Libya’s central bank last year bought a 4.6 percent stake in UniCredit SpA, Italy’s biggest bank.

Libya may increase its stake in Italian oil company Eni to 10 percent from less than 2 percent now, Shokri Ghanem, the former head of the National Oil Corp., said in May.

As politicians greet Qaddafi and companies jockey for Libya’s riches, Monetti grows more disgusted.

“This man has left a trail of death all over the world” he said. “And they treat him like he’s a normal person.” "

To contact the reporter on this story: Steve Scherer in Rome at scherer@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: September 21, 2009 19:00 EDT


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=ad7uloFPGf5c


oh, and someone needs to tell this reporter (and a fair few million Americans and Brits) the truth about the Lockerbie Bomb and the FACT that Al-Megrahi is, and was always KNOWN to be, innocent. Even ex-US intelligence people have vouched for that! Loook up John Pilger for more info, amongst others.

[3_3_3]

a comment from here:
Blair Gaddafi Deal (http://afghancentral.blogspot.com/2009/08/blair-gaddafi-deal.html)

The top commander in Afghanistan jubilantly proclaimed to the news media that the war in Afghanistan is winnable if we simply kill enough people."The only thing that stands between us and victory is a bunch of people shooting at us and opposing us", McChrystal said as he chomped on a Cuban cigar. "If we can kill those people then we will be guaranteed victory!" McChrystal admitted that many innocent men, women and children who were not carrying weapons have also died during the war. "One death of an innocent person is a tragedy", McChrystal explained. "100,00 deaths is collateral damage". The General explained that his troops were under specific orders to only kill people that possessed weapons, could possess weapons or may possess weapons in the future."That's everyone", McChrystal declared.McChrystal also requested more troops be brought into the country because having more troops would enable the soldiers to kill more people and bring the war to an end sooner.
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates defended McChrystal's strategy. "It makes perfect sense that we will win the war if there's no one left to oppose us."

:eek::eek::eek:

Now those are the words of evil. kill kill kill.
And were taught since children to look up to these people. our society is sick, but not for long.

[concordewarrior]

I like his group of female bodyguards.

They are good looking women! I wonder if they have all gone to bed with him as a requirement to be recruited?

The man has good taste.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/21/2009-09-21_libyan_leader_.html

[coco]

I like his group of female bodyguards.

They are good looking women! I wonder if they have all gone to bed with him as a requirement to be recruited?

The man has good taste.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/21/2009-09-21_libyan_leader_.html

Thank you, Concordewarrior for the link. With no disrespect intended toward you I make the following remark about a couple of parts in the news story. And yes, they are pretty ladies - and presumably highly trained and dangerous to boot!

-------------------

Huh?

The bodyguards also formed a menacing circle around Khadafy in Rome last June after 900 Italian women unleashed a chorus of boos in response to his admonition not to drive without their husbands' permission.

Then

The all-woman Libyan force made its debut in the 1990s as part of the what Khadafy called a campaign to raise the status of women in the Arab world.

[coco]

For those who wish to review Iran's speech.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/23/ahmadinejad-un-speech-vid_n_297682.html

[real6]

Damn now i know a reason i really like him!!!






















The man, the myth!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/GadaffiR101207_468x595.jpg
















http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/alg_moammar_khadafy_bodygua.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/gaddafigrrrlsquad049pl.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/guard2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/guard.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/women101207_468x392.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/REAL6/amd_moammar_khadafy_bodygua.jpg


:D

[coco]

Kaddafi's Speech - Nine videos

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.1 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.2 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.3 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.4 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.5 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.6 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.7 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.8 - YouTube

Muammar Gaddafi Speech To United Nations Sept 23, 2009 pt.9 - YouTube

[real6]

Kaddafi's Speech - Nine videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvOo5LK22sg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5IOPeAbc0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjjICLYDKlg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0MxuRiDq10&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-u1TxWArzg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQ6aFqprds&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7PbMTVwlqw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXG--3l3q4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe0eNHBORvE&feature=player_embedded

Kaddafi's Speech, one video:

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/23/HP/R/23455/Pres+Obama+Delivers+First+UN+Speech+to+General+Ass embly.aspx

Sorry i couldn't resist :D

[coco]

Kaddafi's Speech, one video:

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/Media/2009/09/23/HP/R/23455/Pres+Obama+Delivers+First+UN+Speech+to+General+Ass embly.aspx

Sorry i couldn't resist :D

Thank you! I couldn't find it contained in one vid. I checked C-Span but obviously not very well. :)

[majorlee]

Kaddafi's Speech - Nine videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvOo5LK22sg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5IOPeAbc0&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjjICLYDKlg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0MxuRiDq10&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-u1TxWArzg&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpQ6aFqprds&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7PbMTVwlqw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WXG--3l3q4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe0eNHBORvE&feature=player_embedded


tyvm

c-span was playing up for me :)

[coco]

tyvm

c-span was playing up for me :)

Great! Then we have a choice; one can select youtube or C-span - whichever agrees with your computer or schedule. :)

[real6]

Great! Then we have a choice; one can select youtube or C-span - whichever agrees with your computer or schedule. :)

Anytime. I was feeling frisky :p

[pureheart]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/129764/The-World-s-most-eccentric-dictator

In the actual paper they show a side-by-side picture of him then (handsome) and now (freaky) and speculate on whether he shares the same plastic surgeon as Mickey Rourke.

At least they mentioned that he said swine flu was manufactured, even though they said it was by 'evil scientists'. :cool: