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morphal
22-09-2009, 07:52 PM
I'm feeling really uneasy about this dream. This morning it seemed so clear that I needed to publish it here... tonight I'm not so sure, I have my doubts. I'm fairly certain this dream of a huge tidal wave hitting the east coast of the US this winter didn't come from my subconscious mind as I don't tend to dwell on end-times scenarios, follow them or believe them in any way, of course, they're in the back of the mind of most anyone who reads on conspiracies and feels that things are coming to a head, but for me the jury has been out on the issue for a long time and I'm not sure I'd believe anything until I saw it...

so I'm pretty sure this dream had to come from one of two places - either the spiritual higher ups of the good transmitting a message and a warning, or dark forces somehow implanted it into my sleep to attempt to use me as a tool ... due to recent physical interferences, I'm more concerned about the latter.

I need to consult on this, seek an answer, and come back to the issue. I feel that if it was from and for the good for sure, I'd think I wouldn't be having these doubts... but in a reversal, the doubts themselves could be another sort of dark side psychic attack... I'm sorry, this is confusing, I never had a cataclysmic dream like this before - please PM me for details if you want to know more ... I'm glad no one replied to this thread although if anyone else had had dreams of tidal waves they'd like to share, I'd be interested to compare. I have a copy of the message I put here, and if I feel that it's confirmed, I'd repost it. Or if anyone wants to try to figure out where it comes from, let me know and we could discuss it. Again, sorry.

merlincove
23-09-2009, 11:53 PM
Hi Morphal,

don't be sorry, this sounds like one heck of an intense dream.

i'm not sure about catclysmic dreams, but i had a few vissions a few weeks ago. One was of an american city burning, i felt that it was west coast america, seaboard as there was a water front, like manhatton, but it was not a new york sky line. It lasted only momentarilly, and was quite vivid for those few moments.

that night i had a dream of being in a city that was being bombed, i felt i was in an american city, again, and thst the planes that were dropping bombs were american also, although they were far in advance of what we see as aerotech today - almost with ufo tech's. i don't have these kinda dreams so this one really stood out.

i have been meaning to post the accounts in thread elsewhere on the forum, but they kinda lay dormant in my waking mind till reading you post.

:D

zenith82
24-09-2009, 12:08 AM
Ive been having dreams of devestating tidal waves for the last couple of years. Please remember your dream could be symbolic, with the state of world affairs and the knock on effect in individual lives it's natural that a large number of people would be having dreams about tidal waves due to it's symbolic meaning.

Whilst I believe in prophetic dreams, (having had them myself since childhood) some of them may not be literal, the tidal wave doesn't need to be physical.

I can interpret dreams if you fancy PM'ng me with the dream in detail I might be able to offer a symbolic meaning of your dream. Do you regularly have prophetic dreams? If so can you normally tell the difference between something literal and symbolic, and can you normally tell the difference between a dream giving you advice on a current situation and a dream showing you a future scenario?

morphal
24-09-2009, 12:12 AM
Thanks merlincove, your response and PM really calmed me down. I tend to worry too much! lol...

I'll just repost the dream now with the disclaimer that I don't know what it's supposed to mean. Actually - 2 dreams. In them I was living a life in NYC - I'm on the west coast but have visited NYC and got that feel that was where I was in both dreams.

merlincove pointed out some aspects of how the dream could in fact have been a subconscious message, which is helpful for me to consider the third possibility. I'm open to the fact that it could be any of all three possibilities or maybe even partly from all three! lol...

merlin - cities burning on the west coast... advanced US military tech bombing the US - this sounds like what many of us fear - riots, chaos, the prelude to a martial law type of situation. I'd be interested in other people who have accounts of such types of dreams or visions happening lately. I feel the same way about these types of dreams or visions standing out.

I won't repost the original post here with all the background info of what I went through the night before, just the dreams themselves.

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n the dream I KNEW that soon to come was a huge tsunami. The best way to survive it if you were in a city on the coast would be at the top of a high rise, and the number I'm getting would be the 16th floor or above.

In the dream I had a dream or vision which showed me how it would come. I was out in the middle of the ocean, watching. It would come in the black of night and no one would see it. It would be around 3 AM and it was actually a black, cloudlike energy that would plummet into the sea and the tsunami/tidal wave would follow... later people would speculate that it was an asteroid that had caused the tidal wave, but I'd seen it – it was supernatural evil and could not be seen or measured. This is significant because there will be no warning of it, which is how 'they' want it in order to cause maximum death, chaos and destruction. It will not show up on any instruments, as it is in fact, an energy and not a comet or asteroid that somehow missed detection.

People in the city were nervous, some had heard of its coming and were fleeing to the tops of apartment buildings on nights they felt nervous – but it was coming like 'a thief in the night' as the bible says.

One time some friends and I lived in the lower floors of a highrise but were close with an older Jewish couple that lived up top. We felt it was coming and went up top to her apartment. 45 minutes later, some radio station was giving one of us $50 as a type of manipulated contest reward for staying out a 'false alert' – in essence the media was manipulating the fears, encouraging the sense that it had been a false alert so people would go home, and possibly die that night. The media was making light of the situation, but I wouldn't leave that night as I still felt the tidal wave was coming, though you couldn't see it and no instruments would be able to warn us – it would take us in our sleep... but that night there was an ominous presence and foreboding.

The older Jewish lady was looking at her bible – there were some notes she had made in there of insights she had while reading Revelations – so she had the Christian bible... this is possibly a message that no matter what your credo, there are warnings in the New Testament which may give you insight into this time.

That's about it. There was a bit more which seemed like a dreamlike detail that I couldn't make sense of and didn't seem significant so I wasn't going to include it, but here it is anyway:

Her bible had been given to her by her mother who was an egotistical lady – her mother had cut apart the old and new testaments and inserted a small decorative box in between them to hold her own picture. The Jewish lady had long ago removed the picture of her mother but the box was still there in the midst of the book, so I helped her by untying the strings that held the two books together, removing the box, and tying it back up.

There was another dream that followed that was another sort of a warning... if you have been labelled with mental illness in the past, this is for you. In the dream I had gone to the hospital for a routine visit, to get some help with a physical health issue, but the doctor had seen mental illness in my file and you could tell she wanted to commit me – without any concrete evidence of craziness. This was during the time before the tidal wave. I felt that there was some ulterior motive of getting people to go to the hospital, and committing as many of them as possible, so more people would be locked up in the ensuing chaos and unable to fend for themselves. It was a very dangerous situation, and I told the doctor strongly as I sensed her intentions to seek out mental illness rather than help my with my simple health problem – If you commit me, I will sue! I also had a plan of escape in my mind, knowing that if she did in fact commit me I would be able to escape out the back door despite high levels of apparent security. This seems to be a message that if a doctor tries to exercise their power over you and commit you for no reason except a prior diagnosis of any type of mental illness, threaten them by knowing your rights, threaten them with a lawsuit, and they may just give you the healthcare or meds that you seek without locking you up...

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Today I found some interesting info about Paul putting his own spin on what became Christianity, the way he attempted to tie the old and new testaments together - it's a bit like the image of the Jewish lady's egotistical mother putting her picture between the old and new testament as what I'm reading shows Paul to be fairly egotistical himself. Pretty soon here I'll see about posting a reference to that info in the religion section.

morphal
24-09-2009, 12:18 AM
Ive been having dreams of devestating tidal waves for the last couple of years. Please remember your dream could be symbolic, with the state of world affairs and the knock on effect in individual lives it's natural that a large number of people would be having dreams about tidal waves due to it's symbolic meaning.

Whilst I believe in prophetic dreams, (having had them myself since childhood) some of them may not be literal, the tidal wave doesn't need to be physical.

I can interpret dreams if you fancy PM'ng me with the dream in detail I might be able to offer a symbolic meaning of your dream. Do you regularly have prophetic dreams? If so can you normally tell the difference between something literal and symbolic, and can you normally tell the difference between a dream giving you advice on a current situation and a dream showing you a future scenario?

Thank you zenith - yes it's making sense that it could well be symbolic after all. I don't regularly have prophetic dreams, much of my dreaming ability has been shut down for a few years and only remember in bits and pieces. I only know that when I was younger I had dream events happening in real life from time to time which let me know that some of them did come true. I have not exercised the discernment between the symbolic and the psychic as you have asked... the only thing about this was the way the dream stood out and I felt I had to publish it!

morphal
24-09-2009, 08:03 AM
This is strange - for some reason I was reading and reading through articles on the Amitakh Singal site for hours tonight until I came across this piece of information by someone who claims to have predicted events in the past that have occurred:

Of recent many have had their attention drawn to the skies to look for incoming foreign objects such as meteors, comets and even whole planets. This has been by design. The alternative media has especially promoted sky searching. False prophets of incoming objects have blossomed. The masses are getting worked up into a frenzy about the possibility of huge disasters being caused by celestial impacts or near misses, and even the possibility of alien invasions.

There has been a long-range plan by the ruling elite to spread contrived incoming disaster stories. This includes the Planet X scares, which I have already explained that the Planet X no longer exists. I have said that something is coming this way, but it will NOT be Nibiru (Planet X).

The ruling elite want to control the fear that they will be spreading and the story of incoming objects works very well to suit their purposes. However, they know the bulk of the real disasters will not be coming from incoming objects, but from the Earth itself. Hence, there will soon appear to be incoming objects and damage caused by the ruling elite. These will be artificially launched by them and the objects will crash on the Earth and appear to have been incoming objects from deep space.

He makes reference to many places and strangely only something very vague and terrible happening to New York:

South Carolina will be devastated by a Giant Wind with five prongs. Rhode Island will be totally submerged. Baltimore will be hit by a huge hurricane and will later be totally under water. A worse fate awaits New York.

http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/earth.html

worlds beyond
24-09-2009, 12:07 PM
Hi Morphal,

I've been having intense mega-tidal wave 'dreams' for many years, in fact, I used to have them as a child (my parents called them "nightamres"). They are so different to my other (usually vivid) dreams in that I get a sense this is going to happen.

Two weeks before the Asian tsunami, I dreamt I was in like a basement area of a large hotel, somewhere in the Eastern hemisphere (never been!) .. the basement was the hotel dining area, with huge glass windows looking out onto beach,... I watched as an almighty tidal wave came rushing in and engulfed the beach and hotel, all the glass breaking etc, and people screaming.. it was awful scene, yet I was prefectly calm, as though I was there, but as an observer, rather than participant (if that makes sense?)... I told my partner and best friend who put it down to "oh another one of your tidal dreams".. :rolleyes:

I've had increasingly strng Tidal Wave dreams and visions past 4 years or so.. and in each, I am always there but more observing, calmly, rather than caught up in the devastation. It's rather like I'm being shown the event, rather than actually being actually involved in/affected by it.

My partner's mum, who lives thousands of miles away, has also been having a lot of dreams in recent years, of something from the sun hitting the earth and causing huge tsumanis and intense fires and devastation all over the world. She's in her 60s, is not an "End of world" or religious type, but she is very very accursately psychic on occasion, and she told me this summer that she firmly believes 2012 is bringing something big our way... first time we've ever discussed such stuff.

I think these dreams can be symobolic of subconscious/emotional stuff too. But I know mine have been going on since I was aged 4, and have always felt different to my normal dreams or nightmares.

morphal
24-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Hi worlds beyond -

Thanks for your post. It seems you are very tuned in to the tidal wave phenomenon... reading what you've shared from your long-term perspective has been helpful - in that those dreams seem different from your usual dreams or nightmares - I had that very sense also. And that your partner's mum has also been experiencing these though she is not an end-of-the-world type person is also interesting. It seems that perhaps people are connecting to some future scenario and experiencing it in their dreams more and more.

I also think now that I've 'slept' on it ;) that possibly if we are tuning into this future scenario in the dream state our dreaming minds also interpret it with the subconscious and with clues and messages for our own life. So in that way it makes sense if it's both subconscious and predictive. Like a personal twist on it.

worlds beyond
24-09-2009, 07:55 PM
I think we sometimes overlook valuable information we are "given" in dreams, as we put in down to "just a dream" or "just the subconscious/emotional stuff".

Not that all dreams mean something is real/going to happen.. but they are a valuable 'space' in which we can receive guidance/info from other realms/dimensions, without interference from our 3D world and all its distractions.. and our logical minds! :)

zenith82
24-09-2009, 08:18 PM
The following are highly likely to be present in dreams of many people at this time given the current state of global affairs and could relate to consciousness rather than the physical. They are still prophetic in nature, just not literal.

Tidal Waves: Water(higher self) a powerful yet fluid/receptive force, washing over the land (physical or ego self) something that is building up and hits at a tremendous pace, representing something unexpected washing over us beyond our control, washing away or cleansing/renewing what exists today.

Volcanos: Something that has long been dormant/sleeping (human race?) With powerful emotions/ passion/ life force building up and eventually bursting through and spilling over. Destroying everything in it's wake but refertilising the land for future growth.

Earthquakes: Stability and structure is threatened. Earth(physical) about to be shaken up/ re-organised, the very foundations of society about to be challenged/destroyed/brought down/overthrown.

Tornado/hurricane: Volatile emotions, anger, outrage, social/global discontent, winds of change gathering pace seemingly destructive but necessary none the less.

Meteor, ufo's, ET's: external force/assistance from beyond this physical reality beginning to become visable in our orbit/ our growing awareness of what lies beyond the physical and knowing that we are not alone?

Bombs: Sporadic explosive awakenings, emotions exploding. Knock on effect.

Also note, Tidal waves(WATER) Volcano (FIRE) Tornado (AIR) Earthquakes (EARTH)

Let's hope they are related to consciousness or we're all fucked :D well i'm not because I survive in all my dreams lol.

zenith82
24-09-2009, 08:35 PM
Forgot to mention to the OP, in your tidal wave dream there is a bible and the mention of religion, which would reinforce the tidal wave being symbolic for a "washing away" in terms of currently held beliefs and values, both on a personal and social level.

particlezen
24-09-2009, 10:09 PM
i have also been having tidal wave dreams for years and years. almost every night of the week sometimes. recently they have been less about tidal waves, and more about the tide coming in and never stopping

morphal
24-09-2009, 10:18 PM
Forgot to mention to the OP, in your tidal wave dream there is a bible and the mention of religion, which would reinforce the tidal wave being symbolic for a "washing away" in terms of currently held beliefs and values, both on a personal and social level.

Very much so zenith, I was thinking about that also - how there was reference to the bible in my dream may have been subconscious/personal or also symbolic as well. :) Liked your writeup on the symbologies.

jesuitsdidit
29-10-2009, 01:25 PM
maybe they have tsunami technology
and the 2005 asian tsunami was a test-run??

tracker
29-10-2009, 01:30 PM
I'm feeling really uneasy about this dream. This morning it seemed so clear that I needed to publish it here... tonight I'm not so sure, I have my doubts. I'm fairly certain this dream of a huge tidal wave hitting the east coast of the US this winter didn't come from my subconscious mind as I don't tend to dwell on end-times scenarios, follow them or believe them in any way, of course, they're in the back of the mind of most anyone who reads on conspiracies and feels that things are coming to a head, but for me the jury has been out on the issue for a long time and I'm not sure I'd believe anything until I saw it...

so I'm pretty sure this dream had to come from one of two places - either the spiritual higher ups of the good transmitting a message and a warning, or dark forces somehow implanted it into my sleep to attempt to use me as a tool ... due to recent physical interferences, I'm more concerned about the latter.

I need to consult on this, seek an answer, and come back to the issue. I feel that if it was from and for the good for sure, I'd think I wouldn't be having these doubts... but in a reversal, the doubts themselves could be another sort of dark side psychic attack... I'm sorry, this is confusing, I never had a cataclysmic dream like this before - please PM me for details if you want to know more ... I'm glad no one replied to this thread although if anyone else had had dreams of tidal waves they'd like to share, I'd be interested to compare. I have a copy of the message I put here, and if I feel that it's confirmed, I'd repost it. Or if anyone wants to try to figure out where it comes from, let me know and we could discuss it. Again, sorry.

dreams mean different things to different people according to where they were raised
the local beleifs and mind sets
education
picture asociations etc

Im not saying that your dream means nothing

however

when some one dreams of a nuke war
it usually means sudden change in their life that might catch them by surprise

a tidal wave can mean over whealming problems .

so guard that in mind because to those who have hurd the saying "its all water under the bridge" will often have the mind set of associating problems with water .

to some it means death or life hence the blood of man is represented by rivers of water in the bible .

just some thoughts for you here .

:cool:

worlds beyond
29-10-2009, 01:51 PM
I had an intense tidal wave/tsunami dream a few nights ago. I was inside house, daytime and sky suddenly went really dark, like when a storm approaching.

Then I felt the ground vibrating under my feet and I remember thinking that I'd never experienced that sensation before. It wasn't like an earthquake (been on one of those) but like a fast vibration. Could feel it and it was making objects in house vibrate too.

I remember clearly thinking that I wished my partner was at home (not at work miles away) as I was filled with a sense of something about to happen.

Then I heard sound like I cannot even begin to describe, other than to say it was a weird rumbling noise. Incredibly loud. Then total silence. The vibrations under feet were getting stronger.

Next thing, I look at the window and see that a wall of water is just about to hit the house. I mean an extremely high wall of water. I go to the window and watch as the water hits. It is quite peaceful in a weird way. No drama or damage. It happens within milliseconds.

I am then stood, alone in house, looking out of window, yet all I can see is water, as high up as the eye can see. So now I am stood as though looking out of a window which is underneath the sea.

I can see nothing except water. All the way up to the top of house and higher. I 'know' inside that this wall of water is so high that even if I could get out of house, I could not survive the rise up to the surface, it is far too high. I realised and actually said "there's nothing I can do now" and felt a bit sad, as I knew this was it, 'the end', but I was totally calm and quite peaceful.

The dream ended.

ferret
29-10-2009, 01:56 PM
hey, ive been interested in all the subjects on this site for years, but all my friends etc just think im bit odd. my partner doesnt read anything on these subjects, but this morning when he woke up was freaked out, n said dreamt the world ended, i asked him how? n he told me they saw the planet tip upside down, n america was where australia is now, i told him that some prophecies have been told about this happening, but he didnt believe me. what do you think? ....

morphal
29-10-2009, 06:32 PM
maybe they have tsunami technology
and the 2005 asian tsunami was a test-run??

ugh. probably. I'm going to be so mad if this happens. I was thinking that large depopulating disasters like this one could be a way of lowering resistance and civil war type activity or chaos before the gamma way burst in 2012. Ie., less people attacking those who would go underground or go off planet in ships, if that makes sense.

morphal
29-10-2009, 06:35 PM
dreams mean different things to different people according to where they were raised
the local beleifs and mind sets
education
picture asociations etc

Im not saying that your dream means nothing

however

when some one dreams of a nuke war
it usually means sudden change in their life that might catch them by surprise

a tidal wave can mean over whealming problems .

so guard that in mind because to those who have hurd the saying "its all water under the bridge" will often have the mind set of associating problems with water .

to some it means death or life hence the blood of man is represented by rivers of water in the bible .

just some thoughts for you here .

:cool:

Interesting. I agree about the symbology. I was so conflicted over posting this dream here b/c I didn't want to promote misinformation, or do fearmongering. Or play to my ego. But I let it go and posted it... now that the asteroid was undetected over Indonesia, I feel that a forerunner and at least part of this dream has come true in a way.

morphal
29-10-2009, 06:39 PM
I had an intense tidal wave/tsunami dream a few nights ago. I was inside house, daytime and sky suddenly went really dark, like when a storm approaching.

Then I felt the ground vibrating under my feet and I remember thinking that I'd never experienced that sensation before. It wasn't like an earthquake (been on one of those) but like a fast vibration. Could feel it and it was making objects in house vibrate too.

I remember clearly thinking that I wished my partner was at home (not at work miles away) as I was filled with a sense of something about to happen.

Then I heard sound like I cannot even begin to describe, other than to say it was a weird rumbling noise. Incredibly loud. Then total silence. The vibrations under feet were getting stronger.

Next thing, I look at the window and see that a wall of water is just about to hit the house. I mean an extremely high wall of water. I go to the window and watch as the water hits. It is quite peaceful in a weird way. No drama or damage. It happens within milliseconds.

I am then stood, alone in house, looking out of window, yet all I can see is water, as high up as the eye can see. So now I am stood as though looking out of a window which is underneath the sea.

I can see nothing except water. All the way up to the top of house and higher. I 'know' inside that this wall of water is so high that even if I could get out of house, I could not survive the rise up to the surface, it is far too high. I realised and actually said "there's nothing I can do now" and felt a bit sad, as I knew this was it, 'the end', but I was totally calm and quite peaceful.

The dream ended.

Thanks for sharing this dream. It's sad but nice that it was so peaceful, simple acceptance. It's a great insight into how it might not be such a bad way to go. I remember when I was a very little girl reading a true story about people who all died in the molten lava of a volcano erupting... a girl and her little dog... killed... I locked myself in the bathroom crying for ages. This dream of yours helps to shift that perspective so at least it might be a peaceful end, after all, what is life in the body, only a short aspect of life itself.

And the wave was so high, you couldn't escape by swimming? Must be very high indeed, like a mile. I was wondering how high up the 16th floor is, I am not so good with distances, I guess that it could be a mile. A very high tidal wave.

morphal
29-10-2009, 06:42 PM
hey, ive been interested in all the subjects on this site for years, but all my friends etc just think im bit odd. my partner doesnt read anything on these subjects, but this morning when he woke up was freaked out, n said dreamt the world ended, i asked him how? n he told me they saw the planet tip upside down, n america was where australia is now, i told him that some prophecies have been told about this happening, but he didnt believe me. what do you think? ....

I think that's interesting, like he tuned into an upcoming pole shift. I'll come back and post a good link here to some info on how that could be a part of what's coming in 2012...

ok here it is - maybe read over it and show it to your partner, it was the one article that really convinced me there is something to 2012: http://www.viewzone.com/endtime2x.html - oh, and I cried a lot...

Also, if you related to this dream, I'll be back in a moment to post another dream I shared yesterday that I had in 2002, of going off planet in a spaceship before a time of great disaster. I'm often reminded of certain bible quotes these days - the old men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions? and - It will be as in the days of Noah... people marrying and giving in marriage up until the disaster. (paraphrasing)

OK - spaceship dream link: http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058371567&postcount=48
It was interesting for a few reasons. The date of the dream - Dec. 4, 2002 (10 years before the event?). Also that it wasn't a case of aliens landing and picking us up, it was more that they'd given us a ship and a few human representatives were in charge of sending out the word to invite people to come on the ship - there weren't aliens walking around. This makes me thing - disclosure to the point of ETs openly walking around - will not be happening. Also interesting - i think this may have been the only dream I ever had that involved a spaceship, docked on earth and then flying in space - and I've had lots of strange, paranormal type dreams. I read that dreaming of spaceships is actually pretty rare, and I wonder if that is essentially blocked except for when it is 'allowed' to be dreamed and remembered.

chrysoprase
29-10-2009, 06:49 PM
When I was about 13-15 years old I had a dream about New York city (had never been there). It was such a vivid dream that I still recall it clearly:

I was in a nightclub establishment. People were dancing. One side of the building (the side facing the Atlantic Ocean) was made of thick glass. The water was about waist level and you could look right through the glass into the water.

The people in the club were celebrating; (I myself was dancing in a white dress with blue pattern). Although the water levels had risen we were okay and having fun with the new view. I had always thought of this as some type of precognitive (or at least futuristic) dream; because at the time I was too young to be in a nightclub.


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Make of it what you will. I was pretty young when I had this dream; but I never forgot it. Another dream I had that same time period was of Los Angeles, California (where I was living). I looked out the window and the landscape was burned by war. The air was filled with smoke. There was a tall pole with the American flag. The flag was half-burnt and flapping in the wind.

I also saw a white horse running through this scene. That's all I can remember; I should have written it down because I know there was more.

Edited to add: After writing this it dawned on me that there is a white horse in Revelations of the Bible. So I just did a quick search and my quick find is that the white horse could represent civil war or antichrist.

morphal
29-10-2009, 06:52 PM
When I was about 13-15 years old I had a dream about New York city (had never been there). It was such a vivid dream that I still recall it clearly:

I was in a nightclub establishment. People were dancing. One side of the building (the side facing the Atlantic Ocean) was made of thick glass. The water was about waist level and you could look right through the glass into the water.

The people in the club were celebrating; (I myself was dancing in a white dress with blue pattern). Although the water levels had risen we were okay and having fun with the new view. I had always thought of this as some type of precognitive (or at least futuristic) dream; because at the time I was too young to be in a nightclub.


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Make of it what you will. I was pretty young when I had this dream; but I never forgot it. Another dream I had that same time period was of Los Angeles, California (where I was living). I looked out the window and the landscape was burned by war. The air was filled with smoke. There was a tall pole with the American flag. The flag was half-burnt and flapping in the wind.

I also saw a white horse running through this scene. That's all I can remember; I should have written it down because I know there was more.

Interesting. Could it possibly be post tsunami? The water level raised but mostly receded? Strange. And the warzone of Cali, scary stuff. Lots of predictions that civil war is headed to the states over the next couple of years, some say due to an upcoming greater depression, but I think if there are huge natural disasters, that will contribute also. If NYC goes, imagine the chaos in the financial world?

chrysoprase
29-10-2009, 07:20 PM
Yes, I would think of it as post-tsunami. Whenever I see news reports of tsunamis, I am reminded of this dream. Also, whenever I hear of hurricanes in that area.

As I mentioned in my edit; after typing that post I immediately thought of the white horse of the apocalypse (I had never made that association before). Something that I did not mention in previous post was that my father was chasing the white horse.

So, in doing a quick search on horses of apocalypse; I see that some think the white horse could represent Christ. Well, my father is not-so-nice. If you met him you would think he was affable, charming; but he really isn't.

So I would think this was a good marker in my dream indicating the white horse one of evil, Civil War. (I never knew what that part meant in my dream - funny that I just figured it out this moment!). There is something else, too.... I can't quite grasp yet... trying to remember...

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I agree natural disasters could trigger so much.

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chrysoprase
29-10-2009, 07:30 PM
Oh my gosh! I just remember another element of the California/war dream.
After the white horse ran through (my father chasing it); there was a big basket with red roses. And, I think there was a string attached to the basket handle and that string was coming from the sky.

morphal
29-10-2009, 07:40 PM
chrysophase, very interesting, let me ponder a bit... makes sense your dream is connected to post-tsunami the way you describe it and when you think of it when you hear of hurricanes or tsunamis.

question, what pops into mind regarding your horse is pegasus - is Pegasus a white horse? Also there is a military project Pegasus? I don't know why I'm thinking Pegasus now. Don't know the myth or meaning offhand.

Never heard of connection of white horse and civil war, seems to make sense in the context of your dream, LA would be a very intense place for civil war with its huge population and network of gangs... k I'll be back in a while...

Oh - and the roses with a string - roses a gift? A string from the sky - a spaceship? What do you make of it? Perhaps now that you're reflecting on this dream today and bringing up more memories will bring you more dreams.

chrysoprase
29-10-2009, 08:05 PM
I got the white horse/civil war association from the first site that popped up in my search (wikipedia)
The white horse of the apocalyptic four has been argued to represent either evil or righteousness:

[edit] As evil
The other three horsemen represent evil, destructive forces, and given the unified way in which all four are introduced and described, it may be most likely that the first horseman is correspondingly evil.[2][3] Stuttgarter Erklärungsbibel, a German Lutheran, sees him as civil war and internal strife. One interpretation--which was held by evangelist Billy Graham--casts the rider of the white horse as the Antichrist, or a representation of false prophets, citing differences between the white horse in Revelation 6 and Jesus on the white Horse in Revelation 19.[4] Revelation 19 Jesus has many crowns, but in Revelation 6 the rider has one.[5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse#White_Horse

I don't know about Pegasus either, except that he has wings and the horse I saw didn't. However, from a quick search I found this:

During World War II, the silhouetted image of Bellerophon the warrior, mounted on the winged Pegasus, was adopted by the United Kingdom's newly-raised parachute troops in 1941 as their upper sleeve insignia. The image clearly symbolized a warrior arriving at a battle by air, the same tactics used by paratroopers

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/NAMA_Epinetron_Bell%C3%A9rophon.jpg/180px-NAMA_Epinetron_Bell%C3%A9rophon.jpg

I don't know what to make of the basket of roses, except that they were disproportionately large within the scene.

Thanks for helping me remember:) I hope it does trigger more in my dreams (and thoughts/memories).

newworldengineer
29-10-2009, 08:46 PM
I had a dream when I was in my early teens about a vivid devastating end of the world type scenario and I hadn't even read anything about that for it to trigger some kind of themed dream event. But anyway I was in this quaint conservatory roomed cafe with some friends just drinking coffee, chatting and observing the outside view which was everywhere cos we were in room made of windows (like a conservatory). I noticed the weather was becoming a little dull, but it just kept getting duller and greyer to a very abnormal extent until the clouds we just a really dark murky black colour (more darker than your average storm/rain clouds), it then started to rain so we watched it through the ceiling splashing on the roof but it wasn't just normal rain, it also started getting darker and sludgier in appearance, hitting the roof...

Then the rain was just getting more heavier and beginning to look less and less like rain and more like tar and fish guts/bones and toxic substances, we then got worried and decided it would be a good idea to start to run to higher grounds cos it was just pouring out of the sky without any sign of stopping... so as we got out on to the streets (in a kind of city environment, I guess somewhere in England) to try and find a way to get on the roofs of the buildings as the streets were filling and filling with this sludgy waste, as we were running up stairs to escape it we saw it completely covering the ground and lower floors of the building we were climbing to the top of.

I remember losing my friends in the sludge as they weren't fast enough to escape it, but then I also put my foot in it.... it stung, then my dream ended :confused:

I've enjoyed reading the previous posts I thought I'd share a similar dream. :-)

ferret
31-10-2009, 09:03 PM
hink that's interesting, like he tuned into an upcoming pole shift. I'll come back and post a good link here to some info on how that could be a part of what's coming in 2012...

ok here it is - maybe read over it and show it to your partner, it was the one article that really convinced me there is something to 2012: http://www.viewzone.com/endtime2x.html - oh, and I cried a lot...

Also, if you related to this dream, I'll be back in a moment to post another dream I shared yesterday that I had in 2002, of going off planet in a spaceship before a time of great disaster. I'm often reminded of certain bible quotes these days - the old men will dream dreams and the young men will see visions? and - It will be as in the days of Noah... people marrying and giving in marriage up until the disaster. (paraphrasing)

OK - spaceship dream link: http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost....7&postcount=48
It was interesting for a few reasons. The date of the dream - Dec. 4, 2002 (10 years before the event?). Also that it wasn't a case of aliens landing and picking us up, it was more that they'd given us a ship and a few human representatives were in charge of sending out the word to invite people to come on the ship - there weren't aliens walking around. This makes me thing - disclosure to the point of ETs openly walking around - will not be happening. Also interesting - i think this may have been the only dream I ever had that involved a spaceship, docked on earth and then flying in space - and I've had lots of strange, paranormal type dreams. I read that dreaming of spaceships is actually pretty rare, and I wonder if that is essentially blocked except for when it is 'allowed' to be dreamed and remembered



thankyou, this is very interesting about 2012..i understand it better now . scary when there is scientific proof...

satijn
03-11-2009, 12:58 AM
Dont know if this sheds a light on anything, but I had this dream a couple of nights ago and told my sis about it, so my blood ran a little cold when i came across this post.
Normally I dream and get a deja vu feeling after the dream, in this case i was having the deja vu feeling in the dream, which makes me think, i should pay special attention to it.
here is the excerpt of my dream i told my sis whileon skype , all i edited was our names and forgive the typos....
[11/2/2009 10:33:41 PM] me: it was at night , on the beach i was all dressed up, like opera night dressed up, with a group of friends, drinking champagne, some of us leaning against cars and some on tables set up on the beach
[11/2/2009 10:33:59 PM] me: all a sudden fire works start to shoot up
[11/2/2009 10:34:10 PM] me: we all clap and gaze in happiness
[11/2/2009 10:34:19 PM] me: seems we are celebrating...
[11/2/2009 10:34:38 PM] me: then from the sky plumes of smoke start comng down
[11/2/2009 10:34:56 PM] me: it all looks so beautiful i say ill take a picture to remember it y
[11/2/2009 10:35:11 PM] me: black sky, fireworks and plumes of smoke
[11/2/2009 10:35:22 PM] me: all of a sudden, the sea rushes in
[11/2/2009 10:35:31 PM] me: like one minute beach
[11/2/2009 10:35:36 PM] me: next sea
[11/2/2009 10:35:55 PM] me: its not far from where we are , like 5 cars down
[11/2/2009 10:36:04 PM] me: the sea retreats
[11/2/2009 10:36:19 PM] me: and i know the next wave is coming straight for us
[11/2/2009 10:36:39 PM] me: i saw how firce the sea had been , it had taken the others cars at one go
[11/2/2009 10:37:02 PM] me: I get up and start to run in the opposite direction as i hear the sea start to come bck inland
[11/2/2009 10:37:06 PM] me: i wake up
[11/2/2009 10:37:22 PM] me: while im still trying to shake up this vivid dream
[11/2/2009 10:37:37 PM] me: i realise the plumes of smoke i saw
[11/2/2009 10:37:52 PM] me: where meteors, but my mind had not made the connection then
[11/2/2009 10:38:06 PM] me: its the meteors striking te sea that causes the damn waves
[11/2/2009 10:38:23 PM] me: and i had a feeling of premonition about this...
[11/2/2009 10:38:25 PM] me: so
[11/2/2009 10:38:57 PM] me: if you are at night on the sea, and fire works start to shoot and you are dressed up for like going to the opera, get the hell out of there
[11/2/2009 10:39:06 PM] me: dont wait to see no damned plumes!
[11/2/2009 10:39:19 PM] me: im serious
[11/2/2009 10:39:30 PM] me: i had a bad feling about this dream
[11/2/2009 10:40:03 PM] sis: okay no beach at night, I do have a friend here who likes to swim at night
[11/2/2009 10:40:14 PM] me: no, beach at night is cool
[11/2/2009 10:40:26 PM] me: just be sure you are not doing all three things
[11/2/2009 10:40:33 PM] me: thats the sign to look out for
[11/2/2009 10:40:33 PM] sis: kay

as far as im concerned , im keeing my eyes and ears ready

suicidal_martyr
03-11-2009, 06:00 AM
One I had was back when I worried about negative sayings of 2012. It was the exact day of Dec. 21 2012. I was in a desert somewhere, I was talking with some girl. This black rectangular shaped ship came down, with different squared designs in it, all black, the bottom opened up and a human came out talking to us about it. He said he was going back up to see if it was real. He got back in the ship or whatever the heck it was and went up and came back down not long after and got out and started screaming, "omg, omg it's true, it's true" He never said specifically what was true but all of the sudden I looked up at the son and it was smaller or further away and whitish. There was a small green star/planet below it. I then seen a giant trail of like smoke or something but didn't see fire or the asteroid or whatever it was but it had landed. I was thinking about it and knew it was landing far away and when it did the sonic boom or whatever had reached me and blew us back like 20 feet as i was running away from the direction it went it. I got back up and dusted myself off as if that was it and then I woke up.

nimlyn
03-11-2009, 07:04 AM
The only type of disaster dream I’ve had recently (today) is something odd about an area known as Jones which is on the obliteration list.

paganbaby25
18-11-2009, 07:31 PM
Dear fellow dreamers,

From a young age i have consistantly had dreams about tidal waves, not every night but atleast once a week! I am 25 now and the dreams seem to be getting more vivid but not as scary! Now the tide seems to be coming towards me slower but as i repeatedly look back at the windows i see it gradually coming towards me in slow motion, and then all of a sudden the water is at the windows slowly creeping upwards!! I feel my thoughts in my dreams and observe them, before i used to panic and wake up suddenly but now i am completely calm and seem to stay there for longer! The strange thing is i am never alone and always in a different place never at home....last night i was in a tall Victorian house in Brighton with wooden window frames and epic views of the coast!! I have looked into dream interpritations before, and they say that stress and life situations can cause these dreams, but i have had these dreams since i was a child and i never had any reason for any stress, fears of the sea,or life situations then! Even now life is never easy and yes it is stressfull alot of the time but i just can't seem to come up with a logical explanation for them!!

Sorry if i sound a bit confusing i am new to this!! And its slightly hard to explain!!

If someone could maybe help me with this i would be very grateful for some opinions!

Kind Regards

Pagan

worlds beyond
19-11-2009, 12:21 AM
Dear fellow dreamers,

From a young age i have consistantly had dreams about tidal waves, not every night but atleast once a week! I am 25 now and the dreams seem to be getting more vivid but not as scary! Now the tide seems to be coming towards me slower but as i repeatedly look back at the windows i see it gradually coming towards me in slow motion, and then all of a sudden the water is at the windows slowly creeping upwards!! I feel my thoughts in my dreams and observe them, before i used to panic and wake up suddenly but now i am completely calm and seem to stay there for longer! ..... ..... I have looked into dream interpritations before, and they say that stress and life situations can cause these dreams, but i have had these dreams since i was a child and i never had any reason for any stress, fears of the sea,or life situations then! .......


hello! :)

I totally understand, as this is almost exactly my experience and my feelings too, massive tidal wave dreams since being a toddler.. for no apparent reason. They used to terrify me, but now I am perfectly calm, like a detached observer.

These dreams have also become so much more frequent past few years for me. And what is more interesting, is that my partner has started having them too this past year. They've recently started saying it's not "if" but "when" it happens!

I do believe most dreams are metaphorical, but this is one long-recurring dream I've never been able to find a plausible or symbolic 'explanation' for.

Sorry I'm not much use in helping you... but thought you might like to know you're definitely not alone with this experience.

Ian2day
21-11-2009, 11:03 PM
Try going the loo before bedtime :p

trappedinameatsuit
23-11-2009, 07:44 PM
I had one too about a giant wave. I was outside doing something and Ashton Kutcher was there playing with 2 toddlers. Picking one up and throwing the kid up and catching like some people do. I walked back inside then outside again and there was a street lamp post in my front yard kind of in middle of it. A fog or mist came into the air and I could not breath it, it was foul/chemical-like. I put my shirt over my mouth and started walking toward the front door and looked up noticing the world was like hollow it all wrapped around like a big wave I looked up and seen other countries but they appeared closer, I then got to see sky again, the world wasn't completely hollow it just came up and arched over a bit. My sisters dad came over panicking and jumped out of his truck and started running inside, I got the impression he wanted to get everyone and drive away from something. I then started talking to him and said this is how it's supposed to be, we've ascended", or something like that. We got up to the door and everything was collapsing, the way the world appeared arching over like a wave, then I saw just water a wave miles high rushing over and I said see you on the other side Jimmy and then woke up.

Not sure what it meant, didn't get the celeb and 2 kids either, or street lamp in middle of front yard.

aqualava
24-11-2009, 04:18 AM
Morphal, thanks for sharing your dream.. interesting.