The ROYAL SECRET and RAPHAEL expose the FREEMASONS

[raphael]

I have been posting on various threads....discussing Freemasons and their craft.
What nonsense these underlings spew.

I want to assist in opening some eyes, using this book as guide...and a few others.

"Whoever has ears to hear should hear..." ;)

Please do click to LOOK INSIDE.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Secret-I-Edward-Clark/dp/1564594947

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JH7Q8MAML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

You can access some of the book at that link.
I really do hope many of you buy this valuable aid to understanding Phreemasonry and the symbols they use.

And many of you will begin to understand my stance when I present information regarding the swastika, without thinking I am some kind of neo-nazi.

This particular link to another thread is discussing the Legend of Hiram Abif.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1289011&postcount=94
A very big deal in the craft.

Shall the initiation begin?
I promise you, that you will rise faster through the ranks than the ignorant Freemasons on this forum.
Honestly most of them, I have come too learn are ignorant plebes "who do not know what they do."

namaste

[nihil]

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[raphael]

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are you going to order the book?

namaste

[nihil]

Who knows ? ;)

A good endeavor so far...

[moon monkey]

Raphael did you write this book?

[raphael]

Raphael did you write this book?

no
written by a Freemason in the early 20th century.
I am guessing the original publication was in the 1920's.
Probably 1923-1924.
Why do I say that?
Because there are astrological charts attached for the years 1924 to 1932.

The info in this Freemason expose, is rather enlightening, especially in regards to the information about the SWASTIKA.

IF the author of the Royal Secret was aware of the profound universality of the swastika, would Hitler and Himmler have known?

The writing of the Royal Secret was taking place during the same time that Hitler had adopted the flag for his party, in 1920.

1924 March Adolf Hitler begins dictating his book Mein Kampf (or in English, My Struggle), while imprisoned in Bavaria.

1924 April 1st Adolf Hitler is sentenced to 5 years in jail for his participation in the Beer Hall Putsch (he serves only 9 months).

namaste

Raphael

[raphael]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JH7Q8MAML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

I just quickly want to point out some of the information contained in Chapter XX.
Chapter XX deals specifically with the swastika.

Therefore, the cosmic, or kabbalistic, numbers and symbols, as represented in the SWASTIKA, or Jaina, cross may be summed up as follows:

18. A symbol of life
26. J.H.V.H., or Jod, He, Vou, He
27. Mercury
28. The moon, also a lunar cycle
36. The sun.
72. A great year, or the precession of the equinoxes through one degree of the ecliptic.
180. One half of the ecliptic, or the passage of the sun from one equinox to the other, creating vegetable life in the northern hemisphere.
280. The period of human gestation.


So the SWASTIKA or JAIN cross, is a symbol for LIFE, JHVH, Mercury, MOON, SUN, GREAT YEAR or Platonic Year or Precession, the ARCH, human GESTATION

The SWASTIKA also has Kabbalah NUMERICAL correspondences to the numbers 18, 26, 27, 28, 36, 72, 180, 280

I will eventually show how all this is connected to Precession of the Equinoxes and the big FIB, the secret societies are veiling.

What we have here is a symbol that unites both the macrocosm and the microcosm. ;)

2Bee continued...

namaste

[raphael]

Okay shall we start with the confession of one lowly Freemason?
The author of The Royal Secret?
But once you read his text, you cannot help feel intuitively much of the information he shares comes from both the mind and the heart.

On the night of my initiation I was told that Freemasonry was founded on the Bible, and all its secrets were hidden therein. In my research work I discovered that the true secrets of Freemasonry were written in the stars and the book of nature, and a knowledge of astronomy and astrology was necessary to lift the allegorical veil. Upon obtaining this knowledge I discovered that the Bible was founded upon the same law as Freemasonry, i.e. the stars and a book of nature.
The Bible has been my chief textbook throughout this work, and, unlike Pythagoras and other philosophers, I am now offering my discoveries to the world.
-I. Edward Clark

This is a good starting point.
Because it makes you realize that the stars above should not be so quickly dismissed, down here.
Can anybody say global warming?
Can anybody say solar system warming?

2Bee continued.
namaste

[nihil]

Hi Raphael, seen your weblog in a list Synchro Mystic Blogs...

This is good, that bunch of guys are really great in active researches, as you.

[raphael]

Hi Raphael, seen your weblog in a list Synchro Mystic Blogs...

This is good, that bunch of guys are really great in active researches, as you.

I appreciate the observation nihil

why won't the swastika die?
tom cruise and brad pitt employed in 2 hour advertisements?

"supporting a certain mantra"

are there folks behind the scenes keeping it alive, but veiled, because they know this powerful archetype canNOT be slain?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4330031689287456187#

I came across this video the other day.
It joins some interesting dots and dashes...

Explains why when you send out an SOS, and the SS or OSS :cool: :cool: show up instead.
And the OSS became the CIA? :eek:

And as the saying goes ... Hilter was I.G. Farben and I.G. Farben was Hitler.
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_34/b4097098922518.htm
http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_02.htm

The IG Farben Building was also the headquarters of the CIA in Germany, which led to its sobriquet 'the Pentagon of Europe'.

This next quote is by a Knight of Malta inductee, that some folks hail as a modern day knight looking out for our health, Dr. Len Horowitz.

These men clearly directed American intelligence agencies to serve the financial interests of the Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company that partnered with Germany's leading industrial organization-I.G. Farben. At the close of WWII, the I.G. Farben building in Frankfort, protected from allied bombings from the highest levels of military command, became CIA headquarters. - Len Horowitz
http://www.whale.to/b/nazi_allopathy.html


Knights of Malta:
http://www.geocities.com/newworldorder_themovie/knightsofmalta.html

all very interesting...because Dr. Len Horowitz is a Knight of Malta** inductee and at the same time an outspoken advocate?
** and the Knights of Malta are connected to the Vatican also?

And further to the discussion what would pharmaceutical companies know about chiral asymmetry, and its role in the building blocks of life, at all levels asymmetry plays a vital role?

DNA = chiral asymmetry = SWASTIKA = Left and Right Hands = ALL are clues

Forgot to mention.
matter and anti-matter are also asymmetric.
would that matter?

What would SOUND and chemistry have to do with altering our DNA on the altar called earth?

namaste

[raphael]

ok a little MAGIC using the SWASTIKA >>

Watch me make an ELEPHANT disappear and in its place, a Man appears. :D

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14652

namaste

[1977]

Thank you for bringing that book to my attention. I am getting pretty annoyed by how these Kessinger Publishing reprints should be in the public domain, but Google keeps them locked up under nonexistent copyright restrictions.

[raphael]

Thank you for bringing that book to my attention. I am getting pretty annoyed by how these Kessinger Publishing reprints should be in the public domain, but Google keeps them locked up under nonexistent copyright restrictions.

you are welcome...nice hair.
brigid are you cross too? :)

how can they do that...?

who runs keSSinger :eek:

:)

You MUST get its companion.
Together they shall help you read between the lines.
Help you fine tune your intuition...
For some folks it will help unveil the intuition switch.
IMHO

http://www.vedicbooks.net/images/SwastikaEarliestKnownSymbolMigrations_small.jpg
http://books.google.ca/books?id=HfdMGRGSdYkC&dq=swastika+migrations+wilson&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=FGGYBhnByf&sig=Aq-Qd08T3YpK8kXBfvbLlsM-J7M&hl=en&ei=vnLgSo6iNtHZlAesrNiEDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CBgQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

This book can be found online (some images are missing I have found out):
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/index.php

1977 men are similar to a good book, and women appreciate both.
They prefer the hard copy over bits and bytes. :D

namaste

[kadosh]

Kessinger Publishing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessinger_Publishing and http://www.kessinger.net/

[1977]

I will def. check that out; I eat books for breakfast.

[raphael]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31ETZHAB0VL._SL160_.jpg

1811. In this work it is found the author has adopted the opinion that the Sacred Writers wrote chiefly, if not entirely, allegorical compositions. He recollects that Moses was learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians; and he expected to find traces of that wisdom in his works. The learned among the ancient Egyptians were pure theists. They were deeply skilled in the sciences; but they carefully concealed their mysterious learning under innumerable symbols and allegories. May we not look for the same things in the writings which are ascribed to the Jewish lawgiver? This is what Drummond has done in this book.

http://www.kessinger.net/searchresults-orderthebook.php?ISBN=0766144631

Here is another one I would recommend, written in 1811.

Kessinger Publishing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessinger_Publishing and http://www.kessinger.net/

I am grateful to KeSSinger for making these publications available. ;)
Much of what you read in the 21st >> 20th century is lacking in creditability, it appears diluted.

Thomas Wilson's great investigation into the swastika is a great case in point.
So much information was at one time available about the swastika, but it is clear, the mainstream western mindset is ignorant of this archaic Neolithic pre-literate symbol.

Many folks (generations removed) think Hitler invented it.
Oy vey.

namaste

Raphael

p.s.
I vonder if Henry KiSSinger reads KeSSinger publications to help him zee into za future?

[papillon55]

on a more lighthearted note,

Raphael, thought you might appreciate this;


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8321/spirasvasava.gif

Round
Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel

http://www.ibiblio.org/jimmy/folkden/php/images/EZ_Wheel.gif


Never ending or beginning
On an ever-spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel thats turning
Running rings around the moon
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes of its face

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5776/suvastikaavatar2.jpg


And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of its own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6109/pythagorascave.jpg


Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half-forgotten dream
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes of its face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGGTVft5Lk&feature=related

[raphael]

Raphael, thought you might appreciate this;

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5776/suvastikaavatar2.jpg


love how you keep track of time, papillonSS. :rolleyes:
that is an 'excellent connection' you made there re: 11, 2, 5, 8 and my avatar and to my excellent adventure. ;)

As you illustrated in your sketch:
2, 5, 8, and 11 represent the shaded areas.
1, 4, 7, and 10 represent the light areas.
3, 6, 9, and 12 form a cross.

However the avatar has 8 sections or pieces of pie (each is 45 degrees, i.e. 360/8), the zodiac has 12 (each piece of the pie is 30 degrees, 360/12).
So there is an obvious overlapping of light/dark influences.

What can we learn if we superimpose the HOLY SPIRIT time clock over the 'Precession Zodiac time clock' that I claim my avatar is a representation of?

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:y2BjafjUyZCYTM:http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Altars/Cathedra/Gloria-HolySpiritDove.jpghttp://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5776/suvastikaavatar2.jpg

And the wings of the HOLY SPIRIT in the center of the clock that sits above the chair/throne of St. Peter ... hints at what time exactly?
Hard to tell the exact time.
What is clear however by both images is this...

The hands on the clock are pointing between 9 and 10 and 2 and 3.
A closer inspection reveals the Vatican clock has 72 increments.
http://saintpetersbasilica.org/Altars/Cathedra/Gloria-HolySpiritDove.jpg
click to enlarge

And coincidentally in the Kabbalah mention is made of the 72 names of god.
Those are just a few of the coincidences.

Two dates are discussed re: bible origins, the beginning of time, biblical creation itself.
4000 BC and 5500 BC.
These two dates coincide with the Vatican clock that we see above St. Peter's chair.

4000 BC = Taurus (2 o'clock) as the vernal equinox.
5500 BC = Gemini (3 o'clock) as the vernal equinox.

5500 BC places the spring equinox in the 3rd sign of the zodiac, 'gemini'.
Now return to the Vatican time clock above the chair of St. Peter.
Count backwards or precess through the zodiac starting at around 3 o'clock.

The wings of the dove are indicating this cycle:

3 o'clock is gemini
2 o'clock is taurus
1 o'clock is aries
12 o'clock is pisces
11 o'clock is aquarius
10 o'clock is capricorn

Something to ponder.
What happened between the time in history when we believed ALL of the following and the narrative we follow today?

Many theories have been presented concerning the symbolism of the Swastika, its relation to ancient deities and its representation of certain qualities. In the estimation of certain writers it has been respectively the emblem of Zeus, of Baal, of the sun, of the sun-god, of the sun-chariot of Agni the fire-god, of Indra the rain-god, of the sky, the sky-god, and finally the deity of all deities the great God, the Maker and Ruler of the Universe. It has also been held to symbolize light or the god of light, of the forked lightning, and of water. It is believed by some to have been the oldest Aryan symbol. In the estimation of others it represents Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva, Creator, Preserver, Destroyer.

It appears in the footprints of Buddha and on his chest and palm, and also on the chest of Apollo., engraved upon the solid rock on the mountains of India (fig.32). It stood for the Jupiter tonans and Pluvius of the Latins, and the Thor of the Scandinavians. In the latter case it has been considered- erroneously, however --a variety of the Thor hammer. In the opinion of at least one author it had an intimate relation to the Lotus sign of Egypt and Persia. Some authors have attributed a phallic meaning to it. Others have recognized it as representing the generative principle of mankind, making it the symbol of the female. Its appearance on the person of certain goddesses, Artemis, Hera, Demeter, Astarte, and the Chaldean Nana, the leaden goddess from Hissarlik (fig.125), has caused it to be claimed as a sign of fecundity.
http://www.northvegr.org/lore/swastika/005.php

And that is just the intro to this book.
WOW

There is much much evidence re: 'archetypal gods' that has been gathered.
Physical proof that ACTUALLY EXISTS of ancient archaic beliefs.
The evidence loudly suggests that the archetypal gods trump the Christian god(s), certainly regarding the historical time line, YES it is clear that the swastika begat the Christian, the Jew, the Muslim, nearly everybody in the northern hemispheres. :p

What is the name of the book that helps us join the dots and draw conclusions?
For those who want to know more about the origins of the swastika/jaina cross/the key to universal movement:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058356336&postcount=13

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/Swastik4.svg/137px-Swastik4.svg.png

And what do you want to know about the Jaina Cross?
Just more wow awaits those wishing to hear sounds of silence that speak to you.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/830/

namaste

Raphael

[thelucifer]

Many folks (generations removed) think Hitler invented it.
Oy vey.



A sight to behold.

edit - The boy scouts of America used the straight arm salute before Hitler as well.




Raphael, what are your thoughts on the swastika/cross symbol used for Camp Coronado via 4 buildings ?

The air space was/is a no fly zone meaning it was not meant to be seen by the public.

[decim]

For those who haven't seen it..us-navy coronado san-diego

http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/swastika-building-us-navy-coronado-san-diego.jpg

[papillon55]

hi,
Just thought you might be interested in comparing the image you have previously posted and an image from Denver Airport
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5290/smallfk.jpghttp://vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/89884022_4a0f6dce7f1.jpg

[raphael]

hi,
Just thought you might be interested in comparing the image you have previously posted and an image from Denver Airport
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5290/smallfk.jpg

http://www.tibetanlivingcommunities.org/images/mandala3.jpg

Papillon are the two images similar in their source?
The Navajo and the Tibetan?
Go here:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/02/01/830/

Why did Hitler chase the Freemasons OUT of Germany, along with the Jews, and others viewed as gypsies, tramps and thieves?

Hitler's Search for the Holy Grail...GREAT video. :D
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55289763

namaste

Raphael

[raphael]

hi,
Just thought you might be interested in comparing the image you have previously posted and an image from Denver Airport


The Denver Airport and an INTENTIONAL swastika in its design?

http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/us_co_denver_airport_vp.gif

Naturally I have a few thoughts:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=134842#p134842

namaste

[grandsecretary]

Not true. The Gammadion is automatically produced as a bi-product of any design comprising a minimum of four squares within a square comprising the four squares. The square is the most useful regular shape used in architecture.

Similarly, a gammadion is also a natural bi-product in basket weaving, which is why it is a symbol used in all civilisations where basket weaving was prevalant.

It's use dates back many, many, thousands of years.

It is because of CONSTANT references to Hitler and Nazi Germany that it prevents intelligent discussion of this subject.

[raphael]

Not true. The Gammadion is automatically produced as a bi-product of any design comprising a minimum of four squares within a square comprising the four squares. The square is the most useful regular shape used in architecture.

Similarly, a gammadion is also a natural bi-product in basket weaving, which is why it is a symbol used in all civilisations where basket weaving was prevalant.

It's use dates back many, many, thousands of years.

It is because of CONSTANT references to Hitler and Nazi Germany that it prevents intelligent discussion of this subject.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/images/2008/05/06/milky_way_spiral_arms_2.png

I am not sure what 'not true' is referring too.
The gammadion deals with 4 armed swastikas, there are also the infamous 3 (triskele), 5, and 6 armed swirls too, etc...

I want to suggest that the swastika is an ancient symbol for the Milky Way.
As this blog attempts to illustrate:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/
The ancients said we lived in a flat world, and the modern physicist/astronomer agrees.
Our solar system is in the flat spiral milky way.

http://www.proswastika.org/e107_images/custom/europe_ilkley_moor_swastika_stone_3.jpg

Situated on Woodhouse Crag on Ilkley Moor in the UK, the stone has a double outline of a swastika with ten cups fitting within the five curved arms.

Courtesy of TJBlackwell.

namaste

Raphael

[grandsecretary]

=raphael;1058373060I am not sure what 'not true' is referring too.

It is not true that the rather imperfect gammadion at Denver Airport was deliberately meant as a swastika when it is obviously an accidental bi-product of a design based upon squares, or more accurately, oblongs.

You CANNOT draw your conclusions from that picture. Have you asked the architect? No.

That is what is untrue.

[thelucifer]

This pic shows actual north south etc
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/naval.jpg



http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/1qb1c.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/swastika-flag2.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/swastika-boy-scouts-shoes1910exc-1.jpg
1910 American Boy Scouts

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/swastika-campfire-girls1916.jpg
1916 campfire girls
note the eye

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/USA-pledge-of-allegiance-rexcurrydo.jpg

[thelucifer]

It is not true that the rather imperfect gammadion at Denver Airport was deliberately meant as a swastika when it is obviously an accidental bi-product of a design based upon squares, or more accurately, oblongs.

You CANNOT draw your conclusions from that picture. Have you asked the architect? No.

That is what is untrue.

GS, the architect of the Marine barracks at Camp Coronado said it was not intentionally designed/set up as a swastika, its just four L shaped buildings.
LOL just pathetic.

[grandsecretary]

And this shows the problem when one wishes to discuss the symbol of the Gammadion. It has been used for many centuries in literally hundreds of civilisations and thousands of situations and yet here we see it related to The National Socialist Movement in one 6th of the pictures.

This is why we cannot discuss or debate the issue in relation to Freemasonry. Any sensible discussion WILL be misused and misinterpreted by those who wish to associate freemasonry with the Nazi Party when Hitler had a specialist group set up to annihilate Freemasons under the leadership of S.S. Officer, Adolph Eichmann.

[grandsecretary]

GS, the architect of the Marine barracks at Camp Coronado said it was not intentionally designed/set up as a swastika, its just four L shaped buildings.
LOL just pathetic.

I was not referring to the Marine Barracks which IS a Gammadion. You though, being dishonest, and having an agenda, will suggest that I was, when in fact, I was discussing Detroit Airport, and you will also call it a Swastika because of its Nazi connotations. That is why we cannot have a sensible debate (either me, or the architect). Pathetic. :mad:

See what I mean?

[macneil]

Why did Hitler chase the Freemasons OUT of Germany, along with the Jews, and others viewed as gypsies, tramps and thieves?




For the logo...? 1515

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/arms_masons_germany.jpg http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w307/picatya/ritualsymbolofStJohntheEvangelist.jpg

[grandsecretary]

Well if you want to know the answer, I will tell you.

Hitler (in fact Heinrich Himmler) was convinced that both his own personal, and Germany's misfortunes, were caused by Jews, Freemasons, Bolshevists and modernism. He considered that Freemasonry was a Communist Jewish conspiracy that was supra-national, and therefore undermining the stability and independence of the State of Germany.

He would have felt perfectly at home on this forum.

[thelucifer]

I was not referring to the Marine Barracks which IS a Gammadion. You though, being dishonest, and having an agenda, will suggest that I was, when in fact, I was discussing Detroit Airport, and you will also call it a Swastika because of its Nazi connotations. That is why we cannot have a sensible debate (either me, or the architect). Pathetic. :mad:

See what I mean?

Oh my, you are seriously mistaken :(

1. I in no way implied you werent talking about the Airport :confused:


Swastika is just a word, the symbol is ancient as I have mentioned many times before.
Hitler was a simple want to be.

GS it is you who is dishonest and judgmental in error.

Perhaps you should read that post about 10 more times. :rolleyes:


What is MY agenda GS ???

[grandsecretary]

Oh my, you are seriously mistaken :(

1. I in no way implied you werent talking about the Airport :confused:


Swastika is just a word, the symbol is ancient as I have mentioned many times before.
Hitler was a simple want to be.

GS it is you who is dishonest and judgmental in error.

Perhaps you should read that post about 10 more times. :rolleyes:


What is MY agenda GS ???

Well if your agenda is to have a serious debate then I apologise.

The serious pity is that we cannot have that debate, even if we wanted it, because of those here who WILL link the Gammadion to the Swastika of Nazi Germany, and then draw parallels that are not warranted.

It is a shame, but there it is.

That architect is a prime example. By using the best design possible for the Marine Building, he is defamed by those who suggest that it is a Nazi Swastika. It looks like a very practical building layout to me.

[thelucifer]

Well if your agenda is to have a serious debate then I apologise.

The serious pity is that we cannot have that debate, even if we wanted it, because of those here who WILL link the Gammadion to the Swastika of Nazi Germany, and then draw parallels that are not warranted.

It is a shame, but there it is.

That architect is a prime example. By using the best design possible for the Marine Building, he is defamed by those who suggest that it is a Nazi Swastika. It looks like a very practical building layout to me.

To say its just 4 L shaped buildings is just a flat out lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIYf790nvZ4


God forbid truth be shown/discussed.

Just lie, even in light of the obvious. :rolleyes:


The barracks air space is a no fly zone so it was never intended to be seen by the public.

[raphael]

For the logo...? 1515



1515?

Oh you mean ISIS?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/JesusIesusSalvatorZionPerfectionwit.jpg

1 + S = $ = jesus salvator
I explain here:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/08/05/is-light-horus-jesus-salvator-15/

namaste

[grandsecretary]

To say its just 4 L shaped buildings is just a flat out lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIYf790nvZ4


God forbid truth be shown/discussed.

Just lie, even in light of the obvious. :rolleyes:


The barracks air space is a no fly zone so it was never intended to be seen by the public.

So what are YOU saying. The architect is a closet Nazi and so he built an office shaped like a swastika. Devastating. Do the toilets work OK?

[thelucifer]

So what are YOU saying. The architect is a closet Nazi and so he built an office shaped like a swastika. Devastating. Do the toilets work OK?

No, I see the swastika/cross as a symbol of occult Christianity (which is of course from the older mystery religions).

Why not be truthful (the architect not you GS:rolleyes:) and say its not a swastika but is of much older origins etc ?
But no, they act like they had no clue and that its totally accidental, which is so absurd as to be insulting.

This kind of lying is so stupid as to be like the child caught with his hand in the cookie jar answering "nothing" when asked what he is doing, even worse.


As I showed with the pics, America used that symbol and solute before Hitler did.
Hitler is a johnny come lately in regards to the symbol, a non factor really.



I marvel at how mistaken you are yet again.

Bad show.

[1977]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guido_von_List
More controversially, some allege that, in his pagan-Theosophical synthesis, List developed the direct precursor of occult Nazism. His defenders counter that any influence was indirect and inconsequential; in Nazi Germany the strongest occult influence upon Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, was Brigadeführer Karl Maria Wiligut who believed List's Armanism to be a heresy from his own ancestral religion of Irminism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irminism) and had various of List's followers interned in concentration camps.
So, then, other occult groups were persecuted because they were viewed as "heretical" versions of whatever insane Nazi occultism they believed in that week.

From Die Schutzstaffel als antibolschewistische Kampforganisation (1936) (http://www.archive.org/details/DieSchutzstaffelAlsAntibolschewistischeKampforgani sation) by Heinrich Himmler:
Französische Freimaurer-Revolution.

Nun gehe ich in die neuere Zeit über und streife hier, nur einer gewissen europäischen Vollständigkeit halber, die Methoden der Schreckensherrschaft der französischen Revolution, die im Jacobinertum und in der Zeit des Gesetzes „zur Beseitigung der Verdächtigen" den vollendeten Bolschewismus, das System der Abschlachtung der Blonden und Blauäugigen, der besten Söhne des französischen Volkes darstellt. Der Wahrheit halber sei es hier erwähnt: die französische Revolution und ihre Schreckensherrschaft war einzig und allein eine Revolution des Ordens der Freimaurer, dieser ausgezeichneten jüdischen Organisation. Die Freimaurerei hat ihre „ruhmvolle" Revolution nicht nur zugestanden, sondern sie in jeder Loge des Erdenrunds bis zu den harmlosesten deutschen Logen als ihren Sieg und ihre Menschheitsbefreiung stat gepriesen.

Russische Revolution.

Ich komme nun zur russischen Revolution. Es ist nicht meine Aufgabe oft aufgezählte Daten noch einmal zu wiederholen, sondern ich sehe das Wichtigste in diesem Zusammenhang im Hinweis auf die Methode.

Zuerst wird planmäßig die Unzufriedenheit des sozial verelendeten Volkes Rußlands ausgenützt und zur revolutionären Propaganda verwendet. Eine Anzahl russischer Führer, die die Leibeigenschaft aufheben wollten, insbesondere der Minister Stolypin, werden - bevor sie ihre Reformen zum Segen Rußlands hätten durchführen können - von jüdisch- anarchistischer Seite umgelegt. Mit allen Mitteln, die irgendwie ins Spiel gebracht werden können, wird Rußland in den Krieg gegen Deutschland gehetzt. Auch hier sei nur mit einem Wort an diejüdisch- freimaurerische Tätigkeit zur Herbeiführung des Weltkrieges gemahnt.
English Google translation:
French Masonic Revolution.

Now I'm going through in recent times and graze here, only a certain European sake of completeness, the methods of the Terror of the French Revolution, which in Jacobinertum and in the time of the law "to eliminate suspects" the consummate Bolshevism, the system of slaughtering the blonde and blue-eyed, the best sons of the French people is. sake of truth, it was mentioned here: the French Revolution and its Reign of Terror was solely a revolution of the Order of Freemasons, this excellent Jewish organization. Freemasonry has its "glorious" Revolution, not only allowed, but stat in every box of the globe to the innocent German lodges as their victory and liberation of humanity praised.

Russian Revolution.

I now turn to the Russian Revolution. It is not my job often enumerated data to repeat them, but I see the most important thing in this context in regard to the method.

First is systematically exploited the discontent of the socially impoverished people of Russia and used for revolutionary propaganda. A number of Russian leaders, who wanted to abolish serfdom, in particular the Minister Stolypin be - before they had their reforms for the benefit of Russia to perform - from the Jewish anarchist-folded page. By all means, which can somehow be brought into play, Russia rushed to war against Germany. Here, too, was reminded just one word to the Jewish-Masonic activities to bring about the Great War.

[grandsecretary]

No, I see the swastika/cross as a symbol of occult Christianity (which is of course from the older mystery religions).

Why not be truthful (the architect not you GS:rolleyes:) and say its not a swastika but is of much older origins etc ?
But no, they act like they had no clue and that its totally accidental, which is so absurd as to be insulting.

This kind of lying is so stupid as to be like the child caught with his hand in the cookie jar answering "nothing" when asked what he is doing, even worse.


As I showed with the pics, America used that symbol and solute before Hitler did.
Hitler is a johnny come lately in regards to the symbol, a non factor really.



I marvel at how mistaken you are yet again.

Bad show.

I question your intellect, reasoning, and weakness.

You know what lucifer, I suspect that the architect is struggling with the same problem that I have outlined. I don't know this architect, but I admire his bravery, although I question his or her naivety.

My questions are: who authorised this design, which might be perfectly good as a practical design, but which courts adverse publicity that may damage the reputation of the Marine Corp?

Do we know who the architect is, and from which practice; do we know the authorisation procedure; do we know who served on the committee that authorised it; do we know how far up the chain of command did it go; were politicians involved?

I doubt this would happen in England because there would be questions asked in advance. We have planning procedures where the general public are involved before the event.

However, this is America, so let's get the facts. Let's find out what ACTUALLY happened. Those who authorised it should be required to explain their thinking.

This leads on to a very important question.

Should the Gammadion or Swastika be air brushed out of existence because of what happened in Germany? It is as old as time itself. Was this the question that was considered? We should know.

Was this the artistic statement that was made in this design?

Architecture is an amalgam of art and science. We do not want to live in a series of endlessly boring square glass boxes, do we? And we might wish to support an architect who is making a statement that he will no longer allow the Nazis of Germany to take ownership of the Gammadion.

Let's get the facts before we rush to judgement.

You should know that we have experience of this in England where the National Front, a neo-Nazi political organisation, tried to take ownership of our National Flag.

It failed, as did the National Front, because of public opinion, and our national Union Flag retains its rightful place in our national consciousness, as should the Gammadion in yours.

You were quite right to draw attention to its use in America before the Second World War. Why not after?

[thelucifer]

I question your intellect, reasoning, and weakness.

Thats nice.


You know what lucifer, I suspect that the architect is struggling with the same problem that I have outlined. I don't know this architect, but I admire his bravery, although I question his or her naivety.

I dont have to question his honesty/integrity, he made that perfectly clear when saying its just 4 L shaped buildings.

Its very simple, but you wish to make it very complicating, why ?



My questions are: who authorised this design, which might be perfectly good as a practical design, but which courts adverse publicity that may damage the reputation of the Marine Corp?

Do we know who the architect is, and from which practice; do we know the authorisation procedure; do we know who served on the committee that authorised it; do we know how far up the chain of command did it go; were politicians involved?

So many questions :rolleyes:

I doubt this would happen in England because there would be questions asked in advance. We have planning procedures where the general public are involved before the event.

However, this is America, so let's get the facts. Let's find out what ACTUALLY happened. Those who authorised it should be required to explain their thinking.

Why ?

Its just 4 L shaped buildings !

Nothing to see hear, everybody move on.



This leads on to a very important question.

Should the Gammadion or Swastika be air brushed out of existence because of what happened in Germany? It is as old as time itself. Was this the question that was considered? We should know.

No, of course not.



Was this the artistic statement that was made in this design?

Architecture is an amalgam of art and science. We do not want to live in a series of endlessly boring square glass boxes, do we? And we might wish to support an architect who is making a statement that he will no longer allow the Nazis of Germany to take ownership of the Gammadion.

Let's get the facts before we rush to judgement.

4 L shaped buildings LOL, judgment is made easy, he is a liar, at best.





You were quite right to draw attention to its use in America before the Second World War. Why not after?

I dont know, you tell me !

Did I imply such ?




Im a simple person, when I see a person is something less than honest/truthful, I dont really need know more.

Kinda like those "leafy things" in DC.

[thelucifer]

"Naval Base Coronado recognizes the need to disassociate themselves from such an offensive symbol, like that of a swastika."
Angelic Dolan
Naval Base Coronado Spokeswoman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIRUCTW8lk


This clip shows the architect.




Keep in mind this is a no fly zone so it was not meant to be seen by the public.

And GS you bang on with all your questions as though these folks are gonna tell anything.

[grandsecretary]

L shaped buildings LOL, judgment is made easy, he is a liar, at best.

I dont know, you tell me !

Did I imply such ?

Im a simple person, when I see a person is something less than honest/truthful, I dont really need know more.

Kinda like those "leafy things" in DC.

lucifer, this building IS a series of L shaped buildings and so he is telling the truth. It is not the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, but he was not in a court of law under oath as far as I know. That does not make him a liar. Who asked him? Where was he asked? When was he asked? Why was he asked?

Why are you so exercised about the shape of this building if you were not? All good architects make artistic statements otherwise they become boring low paid draughtsmen.

You are far from simple. I remember that senator who questioned and destroyed those Watergate witnesses, "I'm just a simple 'ol country boy". ;)

This is a diversion of course but we have dealt with Washington and I have agreed that it is FULL of Masonic architectural shapes (Sacred Geometry). We simply disagree on the highly dubious drawing of an owl, or pixie, or satanic donkey, whatever it was. That was a long time ago.

Let's stick to one subject at a time shall we. The Marine Corp building in the shape of a gammadion or swastika.

Do you NOT want to find out the facts?

[raphael]

Do you NOT want to find out the facts?

I was going to ask you the same thing gs?
why don't you take your swastika ignorance elsewhere?

the entry to this thread is acknowledging or debating the following:

The SWASTIKA = KEY to Universal Movement

And the fucking ancients knew it, and they left us clues. :p
And fellas like you gs are the ignorant trolls they use to help veil the OBVIOUS, an obvious truth that has NOT been hidden from view.
Actually in the west...the swastika has been placed front and center into the western consciousness, as a symbol of oppression, to be feared if resurrected.
THEY HAVE HIDDEN THE TRUTH OUT IN THE OPEN.

The swastika forms a BIG part of the OBVIOUS fucking truth about the universal movements at the molecular level AND at the celestial level too.

Clockwise vs. counter or anti-Clockwise rotations = quantum spin and planets on their orbits.

Here is something I wrote about Denver Airport and the Freemason/Rosicrucian symbolism found there:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=198346#p198346

Interesting swastika info found here:
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/swas.html

Don't waste your time yakking with the plebe grand secretary.
IMHO, the grand secretary is quite mum or dumb about the swastika.
I am still waiting for his grand insight, insight HE should possess, considering his lofty, holier than thou position.

namaste

Raphael

[grandsecretary]

I was going to ask you the same thing gs?
why don't you take your swastika ignorance elsewhere?

the entry to this thread is acknowledging or debating the following:

The SWASTIKA = KEY to Universal Movement

And the fucking ancients knew it, and they left us clues. :p
And fellas like you gs are the ignorant trolls they use to help veil the OBVIOUS, an obvious truth that has NOT been hidden from view.
Actually in the west...the swastika has been placed front and center into the western consciousness, as a symbol of oppression, to be feared if resurrected.
THEY HAVE HIDDEN THE TRUTH OUT IN THE OPEN.

The swastika forms a BIG part of the OBVIOUS fucking truth about the universal movements at the molecular level AND at the celestial level too.

Clockwise vs. counter or anti-Clockwise rotations = quantum spin and planets on their orbits.

Here is something I wrote about Denver Airport and the Freemason/Rosicrucian symbolism found there:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=198346#p198346

Interesting swastika info found here:
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/swas.html

Don't waste your time yakking with the plebe grand secretary.
IMHO, the grand secretary is quite mum or dumb about the swastika.
I am still waiting for his grand insight, insight HE should possess, considering his lofty, holier than thou position.

namaste

Raphael

You confuse two words - ignorance and ignore, although you do say "mum". As I have now stated at least five times I cannot or more accurately, will not debate this issue with you, or people like you, because you are untrustworthy users.

Please try to stop using filthy language. It offends me, and probably many others on this forum. You will accept this polite request if you are not totally selfish, self centred and have no respect for the feelings of others. It is not necessary.

Now we are talking about one building at the moment. The Marine Corp building which is in the shape of a Gammadion or Swastika. Let's keep it within these bounds and actually get to the bottom of it. I am quite happy to contact the architect and ask him. I am sure that with the right approach he will tell me what his thinking was. I do have VERY good contacts in his business, including City Architects in major American cities.

Now do you want to find the facts, or do you simply want to bolster your own ideas at the expense of others?

His insight is far more important than mine in this instance. We are, after all, mere spokes in the wheel of life.

[thelucifer]

lucifer, this building IS a series of L shaped buildings and so he is telling the truth. It is not the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, but he was not in a court of law under oath as far as I know. That does not make him a liar. Who asked him? Where was he asked? When was he asked? Why was he asked?

Why are you so exercised about the shape of this building if you were not? All good architects make artistic statements otherwise they become boring low paid draughtsmen.

You are far from simple. I remember that senator who questioned and destroyed those Watergate witnesses, "I'm just a simple 'ol country boy". ;)

This is a diversion of course but we have dealt with Washington and I have agreed that it is FULL of Masonic architectural shapes (Sacred Geometry). We simply disagree on the highly dubious drawing of an owl, or pixie, or satanic donkey, whatever it was. That was a long time ago.

Let's stick to one subject at a time shall we. The Marine Corp building in the shape of a gammadion or swastika.

Do you NOT want to find out the facts?


You keepers of secrets would rather be clear and utter gamers by use of parsing words than speak openly to the profane.

That's not bravery GS, that's a shame.

If it were a private matter I could hardly give a shit but as with DC, Coronado is not just a private matter.

[grandsecretary]

You keepers of secrets would rather be clear and utter gamers by use of parsing words than speak openly to the profane.

That's not bravery GS, that's a shame.

If it were a private matter I could hardly give a shit but as with DC, Coronado is not just a private matter.

It's a "no" then.

[elirien]

This is quite an interesting thread. Thank you raphael.

[raphael]

This is quite an interesting thread. Thank you raphael.

you are welcome.
I have come to realize that I can introduce the swastika and its wonderful associations to help bridge the gap between SCIENCE and RELIGION.
As my blog is always attempting to do, as I continually update it with more 'swastika' coincidences.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/about/

The SWASTIKA truly represents itself as the LOST KEY.
Forget what Dan Brown writes...his fictional fluff is based mostly on perpetrating, keeping alive the Judeao/Christian prejudices and ignorance regarding the archetypal 'jesus'.

The SWASTIKA is an ancient/archaic/pre-literate symbol representing a divine TRUTH, a TRUTH that has been hidden from view from western consciousness by associating the marginalized / demonized SWASTIKA, front and center, with crimes against humanity.

What a scam.
That is how you hide the truth.
Veil it with really big FIBS.

i.e
Linking the ancient symbol called the swastika = nazi, is a judeao/christian distortion of history.
There is history, HIS-story and the rarely discussed HER-story.

The nazi = fascist Christian goose-stepping through Europe along the way eliminating/purging undesirable elements is a far more accurate retelling of the events than simply referring to Hitler and the Christian war machine as NAZIs.

It only takes the manipulation of 3-4 generations to make the herd of sheeple numb and dumb to an underlying truth that unites us.

Somehow the group of GERMAN Christians who committed many atrocities in WWII were renamed.
The entire Christian charade of eliminating Jews during WWII was blamed on a group called NAZIs and the symbol they worshiped called the SWASTIKA?
Suggesting the entire WWII drama was fueled by biblical ignorance and arrogance?

namaste

Raphael

[decim]

The pre & post war hijacking of the swastika has been used by zionists to apply to ALL Europeans 'collective guilt', the dogma that white Europeans are ALL supremacist haters & must be destroyed, belittled & put down, while professing 'chosen' supremacist status for jews in Palestine & subsequent land grab with their usa-masonic-vatican-zionist alliance.

The ongoing marxist-zionist agenda & guilt structure is the foundation of the zionist-vatican hegemonic edifice that looms over us in Europe today.

zionists are white Europeans when it suits them, they are friends of Europe's detractors when in suits them. Chameleons


However the nazi = fascist christian goose-stepping through Europe, eliminating/purging undesirable elements is far more accurate.
namaste

[thelucifer]

The SWASTIKA is an ancient/archaic/pre-literate symbol representing a divine TRUTH, a TRUTH that has been hidden from view from western consciousness by associating the marginalized / demonized SWASTIKA, front and center, with crimes against humanity.

What a scam.
That is how you hide the truth.
Veil it with really big FIBS.
l

The two news clips I linked (one from Fox, the other from CNN) both focus on the swastika Hitler thing big time, never mentioning anything beyond that.

The sheople are so easily played.

[grandsecretary]

The two news clips I linked (one from Fox, the other from CNN) both focus on the swastika Hitler thing big time, never mentioning anything beyond that.

The sheople are so easily played.

And this posting says it all. Thank you lucifer. The subject cannot be debated because there are those who will use it to draw unwarranted parallels, although the Nazis did not choose the symbol either accidentally or coincidentally.

I am still interested to know why that architect chose the gammadion, or swastika, knowing that it would attract controversy.

[grandsecretary]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/WeslyeAcres.jpg

Here is another one, the Wesley Acres Retirement Home, Decatur, Alabama, owned and run by the Methodist Homes Corporation.

The same political activist is making the Nazi connection, once again.

Alterations to these buildings will cost the American taxpayer millions of dollars. Why? Because the shape has become a political rather than a Sacred symbol and useful in architecture.

See article here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23633404/

Then see here. It is not just American paranoia: http://www.nork.ru/burg/swastika.html

Although it does not seem to be a problem in Bali: http://www.swastikabungalows.net/

You see, if you do your homework the truth comes out:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/svastika-swastika-contruction-building/1872389469

Take a look at this video, a close look, and concentrate on the Google maps at the beginning and the end. Pay careful attention to the fact that there are, at least 19 units, and possible more, by the same architect, side by side, plus a further two sites on the end for similar development. ALL of them are based upon the same architectural grid system of four squares in a square. Only ONE of the buildings (5%) resembles the Gammadion or Swastika. Why? Because less floor space was required when it was built, but it could be enlarged, at low modular cost at a later stage. This massive entire site is an architectural grid system, with future low cost expansion designed in.

Now we know, the architect did NOT design this single building as a Gammadion or Swastika. It is based upon a grid pattern, and as in basket weaving, this single building shape is a bi-product of his grid system.

Exposed - political exploitation. Nothing more. Move on.

[thelucifer]

And this posting says it all. Thank you lucifer. The subject cannot be debated because there are those who will use it to draw unwarranted parallels, although the Nazis did not choose the symbol either accidentally or coincidentally.

I am still interested to know why that architect chose the gammadion, or swastika, knowing that it would attract controversy.

GS its a no fly zone, it was not meant to be seen by the public.

[grandsecretary]

The Wesley Acres Methodist Retirement Home is a no fly zone? Has anyone told the male residents? :eek:

[thelucifer]

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q295/grandsecretary/WeslyeAcres.jpg

Here is another one, the Wesley Acres Retirement Home, Decatur, Alabama, owned and run by the Methodist Homes Corporation.

The same political activist is making the Nazi connection, once again.

Alterations to these buildings will cost the American taxpayer millions of dollars. Why? Because the shape has become a political rather than a Sacred symbol and useful in architecture.

See article here: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23633404/

Then see here. It is not just American paranoia: http://www.nork.ru/burg/swastika.html

Although it does not seem to be a problem in Bali: http://www.swastikabungalows.net/

You see, if you do your homework the truth comes out:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/svastika-swastika-contruction-building/1872389469

Take a look at this video, a close look, and concentrate on the Google maps at the beginning and the end. Pay careful attention to the fact that there are, at least 19 units, and possible more, by the same architect, side by side, plus a further two sites on the end for similar development. ALL of them are based upon the same architectural grid system of four squares in a square. Only ONE of the buildings (5%) resembles the Gammadion or Swastika. Why? Because less floor space was required when it was built, but it could be enlarged, at low modular cost at a later stage. This massive entire site is an architectural grid system, with future low cost expansion designed in.

Now we know, the architect did NOT design this single building as a Gammadion or Swastika. It is based upon a grid pattern, and as in basket weaving, this single building shape is a bi-product of his grid system.

Exposed - political exploitation. Nothing more. Move on.

Just an architectural grid system is just utter bs gs, but your free to buy and push that nonsense.

GS, I dont have a problem with the symbol and I have done plenty of homework.


The thing that makes me mad is the lack of honesty/openness, being spineless.

The place you linked is a private affair, I dont care what they do, my attitude is, knock yourself out.

[grandsecretary]

Oh I know you don't agree lucifer. IMHO this is a blind spot for you. Have you taken a look at that video? It's quite clear that it is not a DELIBERATE Swastika, which was the allegation.

[raphael]

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/23220000/23220108.JPGhttp://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii186/DutchPhil/masonic-symbols-3.jpg

Any Freemasons want to comment on the above symbol?
read page >> 271
http://books.google.ca/books?id=6gFdrNMGz6AC&pg=PA269&lpg=PA269&dq=Grand+Decorations+of+the+Order+rest+on+a+Teuton ic+Cross&source=bl&ots=bH5cX_cENy&sig=zlnnoem-kmTEQquIT4CPzW6XSuk&hl=en&ei=fh_wSoqhK5LGlAey5-WCCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CA8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Grand%20Decorations%20of%20the%20Order%20rest%20 on%20a%20Teutonic%20Cross&f=false

3 triangles of gold
Can you see this nine-pointed star in the symbols below formed using 3 triangles?

3 triangles formed using the numbers:
1 4 7
2 5 8
3 6 9

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Enneagram.svg/200px-Enneagram.svg.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/80/Star_polygon_9_4.png/120px-Star_polygon_9_4.pnghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/VW-Logo.png/140px-VW-Logo.pnghttp://www.rense.com/RodinAerodynamics_files/enneatruth_anim.gif
http://www.rense.com/RodinAerodynamics.htm

namaste

Raphael

[grandsecretary]

There is an explanation of this logo somewhere. Perhaps an American A&ASR Southern Jurisdiction Freemason would care to respond. It is not used by the A&AR in England.

[kadosh]

33° Inspector General AASR (SJ) USA - This degree is by invitation only and initiates to the degree are selected from 32nd° Masons who are no less than 33 years of age. There can also only be 33 33° Masons at one time in any given Supreme Council Jurisdiction.

The basis of the jewel is a Teutonic Cross. On that is a nine-pointed star, composed of three gold triangles, interlaced. The design also forms nine small triangles, and in each of these is one of the letters "S.A.P.I.E.N.T.I.A.", the Latin word for wisdom. A sword extends from the lower part of the left side of the jewel to the upper part of the right side. Crossing that is a "Hand of Justice". This forms a scepter, terminating in a carving of a hand. On top of the cross, triangles, crossed sword and Hand of Justice is a circular plate, and on the plate is a shield with a crowned double-headed eagle. To the right of the eagle is a balance and to the left is a square and compass. Around the design are the Latin words, "Ordo ab Chao", "Order out of Chaos", enclosed by two serpents, each biting its tail."

The Teutonic Cross continues to remind us of the German origins of the Grand Constitutions of 1786. The doubleheaded eagle looking to the East and West may be from the coat of arms of Germany or from a French ancestor organization of the Scottish Rite, the Emperors of the East and West. Its crown signifies that the Thirty-third Degree is the administrative Degree of the Rite, and this symbolism of proper administration is continued with the sword of strength, the hand of justice and the scales of balance. The three three-sided figures remind us of 33, the number of this Degree, while Sapientia indicates the symbolic achievement required for this recognition. The snakes biting their tails are ancient symbols of eternity and completion, and can allude to the scriptural admonition, "Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves" - Matthew 10:16

[raphael]

The design also forms nine small triangles, and in each of these is one of the letters "S.A.P.I.E.N.T.I.A.", the Latin word for wisdom.

Nice summary kadosh however not being a holy kadosh knight, you again failed to dig deep enough.
Merely reBleating what is easily retrieved.
Dig deeper dude.

S.A.P.I.E.N.T.I.A.
It's ironic that most of the men who participated in the "scientific
revolution", whose contributions seem (to us) so original and
innovative, were themselves convinced that they were merely re-
discovering the vast body of pristine knowledge (prisca sapientia)
that had been possessed by the ancients, but somehow lost and
forgotten during the centuries that came to be called the "dark
ages" of western civilization.
http://www.mathpages.com/HOME/kmath066.htm


sapientia (genitive sapientiae); f, first declension (feminine)

1. wisdom, discernment
2. science, skilled practice

But there is also a connection to SOUND and chanting Dominican/Gregorian monks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zaiZxJIpU

S.A.P.I.E.N.T.I.A. = 9 letters, 9 positions on a circle, 9 pointed star
9 Which brings us back to 9 Pythagorean/Arabic numbers and 9 Solfeggio frequencies formed using those three gold triangles.

And not surprising, each of the RUNES is associated with a particular 'SOUND' and 'SONG'.
Sowilo + sowilo = SS
Solomon's Song was not the only tune being sung by the ancestors.
And the 'development' of the RUNES, which was a step in the development of writing and language has been shown to be connected to 'phosphenes'.

And phosphenes are a clue to how the brain receives 'light' and then composes what we see.
That is why consciousness appears to be fascinated by the SS.
SS = Nazis
SS = Holy Spirit
SS = St. Peter and St. Paul
SS = geneSiS, jeSuS, iSiS, oSiriS, moSeS, eSSene...

And long ago in early language/writing development... S = Z
So Zeus and Seuss and ZoroaSter and the SueZ canel are indications of an evolution of the mind/language.

How many 'SS' can you name that help form a integral part of the human narrative?
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=yzK&defl=en&q=define:ss&ei=o3bxStfSB-jk8AaB8737CA&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CAkQkAE
SS = Social Security
SS is without a doubt...part of human 'consciousness'.
It was even before Hitler was born.
SS = battleships and StarShips and SS colliders?
SS= Solomon Song?
What most ignorant, (non-informed) Freemasons are NOT aware of....
Other forums discussing SOUND and LIGHT:
phosphenes and the burning bush:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14601
Sharry Edwards and SOUND and healing:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14591&sid=691373b9f46597af9fc67ab7f2006537

namaste

Raphael

[grandsecretary]

raphael,

I am going to make a plea to you.

You have such a lot to say, and you obviously have extensive knowledge based upon a great deal of study, and an understanding of many things.

You are IMHO absolutely right when you point out that knowing what the symbols are, does not explain either provenance or meaning, and this is a MAJOR shortfall in the body of Freemasonry per se.

BUT (here it comes). There is no need to be so rude or so aggressive. I am SURE that kadosh is grateful for any insight that you might provide. I enjoy reading your postings, but I do not reply very often, and I am very careful of what I say, because you may not realise it, but you can be offensive and there is always this feeling that you will use what is posted as a weapon, rather than as a willing gift.

Advice from me, freely given and meant to be kind:

Assertive: mean what you say but don't be mean when you say it.

[raphael]

raphael,

I am going to make a plea to you.

You have such a lot to say, and you obviously have extensive knowledge based upon a great deal of study, and an understanding of many things.

You are IMHO absolutely right when you point out that knowing what the symbols are, does not explain either provenance or meaning, and this is a MAJOR shortfall in the body of Freemasonry per se.

BUT (here it comes). There is no need to be so rude or so aggressive. I am SURE that kadosh is grateful for any insight that you might provide. I enjoy reading your postings, but I do not reply very often, and I am very careful of what I say, because you may not realise it, but you can be offensive and there is always this feeling that you will use what is posted as a weapon, rather than as a willing gift.

Advice from me, freely given and meant to be kind:

fair enough
thanks
my apologies to the kadosh knight.

namaste

[stevepenny]

fair enough
thanks
my apologies to the kadosh knight.

namaste

Raphael,

I'm glad that you've now got your socialble head on :). I am also interested in what you have to say, but have to ask how much of this is down to pure mathematical coincidence?

It's a bit like:

1. Add 18 to your birth month
2. Multiply by 25
3. Subtract 333
4. Multiply by 8
5. Subtract 554
6. Divide by 2
7. Add your birth date
8. Multiply by 5
9. Add 692
10. Multiply by 20
11. Add only the last two digits of your birth year
12. Subtract 32940 to get your birthday!

I've no idea how it works but it's down to mathematics and not any form of conspiracy? I hope :D

[raphael]

Raphael,

I am also interested in what you have to say, but have to ask how much of this is down to pure mathematical coincidence?

I've no idea how it works but it's down to mathematics and not any form of conspiracy? I hope :D

I do not believe in mathematical coincidence.
All the coincidences I have collected suggest 'design' is the deciding factor, not chance.

If the universe uses mathematics, then these connections are in fact NOT coincidences, are they?
It is thus a design based on number concepts and math underlying the foundation.

What if there are some fellas who have the inside track on this design?
What if these same fellas have everybody convinced design does not exist, only free will does?

What if the inherent design can be best understood using some of the archetypal tools I am offering?
i.e. the asymmetrical chiral swastika?

I see an unconscious conspiracy where folks are actually working toward the same goal, the same end, a final unity.
And the eternal archetypes are the carrots at the end of the stick, to help keep us on track, moving along in the right direction.

namaste

[stevepenny]

I do not believe in mathematical coincidence.
All the coincidences I have collected suggest 'design' is the deciding factor, If the universe uses mathematics, then these connections are in fact NOT coincidences, are they?not chance.

Sorry, I didn't mean that Mathematics was coincidental, more that some of the 'conspiracies theories' are down to mathematical chance rather than design.

It's interesting that if you consider intelligent design to be number based, then we have a very ordered system, with, as you say, a mathematical underpinning.

But how can free-will exist in a mathematically ordered universe. If 2 + 2 = 4, then free-will does not allow it to be changed to 2 + 2 = 3. Free-will is a product of Chaos, the antithesis of a numerically ordered universe.

What is the mathematical construct of a swastika, i.e. how is it described mathematically. Can it also be described on a 'fractal' basis using Chaos theory?

[raphael]

Sorry, I didn't mean that Mathematics was coincidental, more that some of the 'conspiracies theories' are down to mathematical chance rather than design.


Quantum theory, modern math, must take into account 'probabilities'.
Conspiracy theories are far more probable than modern science wankers trying to time travel by building a time tunnel or a worm hole.
Beam me up stevepenny?

Don't ya think a land based terrestrial conspiracy probably exists?
More than a celestial one based on aliens, ufos or messiahs?


What is the mathematical construct of a swastika, i.e. how is it described mathematically. Can it also be described on a 'fractal' basis using Chaos theory?

chaos theory?
is it connected to fractals in any way?
Yes I can find the swastika inside the Mandelbrot Set. ;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/zoom10mandelbrot.gif

Shall we take a psychedelic trip with the SWASTIKA, herr Mandelbrot, LSD, DMT and the 4 Evangelists?
go here: http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11002

Can we also connect the swastika to the world's largest megalithic stones ever quarried in a place called Baalbek?
And to the magnificent Roman Temple of Jupiter?
Go here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058410285&postcount=2271

So what did I just do Steve?
Did you notice what I just accomplished?
Why I believe the swastika symbol is the MISSING LINK, the real Lost Symbol, that Dan Brown never even found?
Any potential theory of everything, to be considered must accomplish what I just did...show profound connections between the MACROCOSM and the MICROCOSM.

please note: I just linked the swastika to the first 4 lines of the Emerald Tablet.

Sir Isaac Newton's interpretation of the Emerald Tablet.

1. Tis true without lying, certain most true.
2. That which is below is like that which is above that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing.
3. And as all things have been arose from one by the mediation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.
4. The Sun is its father, the moon its mother...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_Tablet


Tis true without lying, certain most true, I have just linked the two versions of the swastika to that which is below is like that which is above that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing.
Have I not illustrated that the biggest MACROCOSMIC stones ever quarried by man can be linked to the same processes, meditations and adaptions of this one thing given birth by the infinitesimal small MICROCOSMIC fractal?

The Sun is its father and it rotates clockwise or sunwise, and the Moon its mother, rotating counter-clockwise or ANTI.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Arecibo_message_part_4.pnghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/barberpole10.gifhttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/dna.gif
And archetypes can be translated as you move from one dimension to another.
We can use the same definition for the two interlaced helices of DNA that are rotating in opposite directions.

Could the Holy Grail have something to do with our DNA?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/holy-grail-found-in-arecibo-message/

Thus the SWASTIKA continues to prove itself the KEY to Universal Movement(spinning vortex) being veiled by both biblical and scientific scholars.

Any connection between the Emerald Tablet, LSD, 4 leaf clovers and little green men is souly by design.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QnRlOqAokN0WuM:http://www.faqs.org/docs/factbook/flags/da-lgflag.gifhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:--wlKf0siyipwM:http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/templerscrosses.gif

Maybe one of the Freemasons can offer why the barbershop spiral is RED and WHITE?
Any connection to Satan, err I mean the red and white coca cola promotion depicting Santa?
Is there a connection to red and white flags?
Red crosses on White backgrounds or is it White crosses on Red backgrounds?

namaste

[kadosh]

.... Maybe one of the Freemasons can offer why the barbershop spiral is RED and WHITE?
In the 17th and 18th centuries barbers actually performed teeth whitening procedures (hence the white on the red and white barber's poll).

Barber & Barber Poll - http://www.randomfaq.com/facts/00233/?Barber%20&%20Barber%20Poll/

[raphael]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/DOOR.jpg
Jesus said "I am the Door"...but what symbol is on that DOOR?

:D http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058416642&postcount=2329

namaste

[kweli]

In the 17th and 18th centuries barbers actually performed teeth whitening procedures (hence the white on the red and white barber's poll).

Barber & Barber Poll - http://www.randomfaq.com/facts/00233/?Barber%20&%20Barber%20Poll/

I'm more inclined to believe this theory:

Blood, Bandages and Barber Poles - the History of Barbers

What's the Deal With the Barber Pole, Then?

The history of the barber pole is intertwined with the history of barbers and their bloodletting practices. Patients would grasp a rod or staff tightly so that their veins would show, and the barbers would cut open their arms and bleed them until they fainted (nasty but true). Later, when leech therapy became popular, as they allowed for more controlled bleeding, the leeches were applied directly to the vein areas. After the procedure, the washed bandages10 were hung outside on a pole to dry11, and to advertise the ghastly therapeutic specialities offered in the barbershop12. Flapping in the wind, the long strips of bandages would twist around the pole in the spiral pattern we now associate with barbers.

This early barber pole was simply a wooden post topped by a brass leech basin. One source speculates that the poles were painted red to mask the bloodstains. Later, the basin was replaced by a ball and painted poles of red and white spirals took the place of the less tasteful pole with the bloodstained bandages, and these poles became permanent outdoor fixtures. After the formation of the United Barber Surgeon's Company in England, barbers were required to display blue and white poles, and surgeons, red ones. In America, however, the barber poles were painted red, white and blue because the American flag also had all these colours.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A896664

[orage]

Jesus said "I am the Door"...but what symbol is on that DOOR?

:D http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058416642&postcount=2329

namaste

In Denmark, this door mirrored would be called Dannebrog Fag, modeled after the Danish Flag that fell from the heavens.

"Dannebrog is the oldest state flag in the world still in use, with the earliest undisputed source dating back to the 13th century. Prior to the use of Dannebrog, Danish forces are known to have used the raven banner."

"The legend states the origin of the flag to the Battle of Lyndanisse, also known as the Battle of Valdemar (Danish: "Volmerslaget"), near Lyndanisse (Tallinn) in Estonia, on June 15, 1219.
The battle was going badly, and defeat seemed imminent. But then, right when the Danes were about to give up, the flag fell from heaven. Grasping the flag before it could ever touch the ground, the king took it in his hand, and proudly waved it in front of his discouraged troops, giving them hope, and leading them to victory.
The myth is clear. The flag, Dannebrog was given to the Danes from God himself, and from that day forward, it was the flag of Denmark, and the Danish kings."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Denmark

it replaced the raven
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RavenBanner.svg

if you need to buy a door :)
http://www.onlinetraelasten.dk/store/produkter/indvendige_døre/4060032/

[raphael]

The myth is clear.




the myth is clear if you take all of that literally.
what do you think the figurative interpretation might be?

namaste

[orage]

the myth is clear if you take all of that literally.
what do you think the figurative interpretation might be?

namaste

Infinity. The all-that-there-is.

The door is divided in 4 (asymmetric) areas forming a cross. Enter, when you overcome that division.

The Doors of Perception is a 1954 book by Aldous Huxley detailing his experiences when taking mescaline.
The title comes from William Blake's The Marriage of Heaven and Hell:
"If the doors of perception were cleansed every thing would appear to man as it is, infinite. For man has closed himself up, till he sees all things through narrow chinks of his cavern."

[raphael]

Infinity. The all-that-there-is.

The door is divided in 4 (asymmetric) areas forming a cross. Enter, when you overcome that division.

I like the asymmetric division.

the cross we are discussing is placed on a rectangle not a square though. ;)

why were the two colors chosen, red and white?

namaste

[orage]

why were the two colors chosen, red and white?

namaste

Red for the blood of Christ (perfection), White for Purity. A little C&P here.

The Great Work

An alchemical transformation of lead into gold would involve a change from a flat color, like black, to a brilliant color, like white or red. Consequently, the "Great Work" of alchemy parallels the "Great Commission"; that is, perfecting metal parallels the perfecting of the soul.


2 of THE ASCENDING SCALE OF ALCHEMICAL COLORS

Once ANY Nature has been contacted by use of Alchemical forces, there begins a Four-Stage "Evolutionary Process" that leads in fixed steps to whatever 'goal' one has set-out to attain.

2nd order: pruification

WHITE: 'Purifactio'

In this second Stage, the emerging product enters a rather extreme period of 'purging;' it sheds the confusion and vagueness of it's origins.. but may seem to have completely missed the intended direction of evolution!

3rd order: perfection

RED: 'Fulminato'

Now in this third Stage the Alchemy becomes quite apparent; the formerly rather distorted Product now begins to show clear signs that it is moving in the desired direction of growth.

[raphael]

Red for the blood of Christ (perfection), White for Purity. A little C&P here.

The Great Work


ah yes the great work. ;)

you listed 3 steps.
let me show you those three colors again using 3 distinct steps.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:JN5CuEHS7WXL0M:http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SolomonsKnotSteps1-3.jpg

Black
White
Red

And what is the 4th color of the 4th stage in alchemy?

And how do we get from the above image to this next one?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/greek-astrologers-and-nazis-had-king-solomon-in-a-knot/

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SolomonsKnotCircle1-1.jpg

Swastika and Sacred Geometry Part I:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/03/30/swastika-and-sacred-geometry-part-1/

4 SACRED COLORS the GOD PARTICLE and PENGUINS:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/4-sacred-colors-the-god-particle-and-penguins/

The MAGIC of 3 6 9 and Solfeggio and the 3 NORNs:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/the-magic-of-3-6-9-and-solfeggio-and-the-3-norns/

After reading those links...you will realize how important the 4 colors found on a medicine wheel are, and how important SOUND is to creating an illusion.

namaste

[raphael]

I am about to introduce the MAIN reason WHY the SWASTIKA has been silenced and buried by JESUS crappola.

Scientists accidentally discovered that the spinning core or vortex of a tornado creates infrasonic waves. When the vortices are large, the frequencies are lower; smaller vortices have higher, though still infrasonic, frequencies.

So this quote and what it reveals and about swirling whirling twisting devilish and dervish vortexes and swastikas, is very very profound.
It also reveals a joke.
We often hear that many quantum leaps in science are by 'accident'.
Thus I contend scientists and our investigations into nature are merely accidents waiting to happen. :D

This post folks is ONE of MY very very BEST in these matters that we have been discussing >>> Sagan/Tesla/DNA/Sound/Swastika/Holy Temples containing Holy Grails all come together. ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058424383&postcount=2373

enjoy.

namaste

[raphael]

Golden Rectangle and the Masonic Square and Compass
go to 3:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSZ8nt-bXKk

namaste

[orage]

I am about to introduce the MAIN reason WHY the SWASTIKA has been silenced and buried by JESUS crappola.



So this quote and what it reveals and about swirling whirling twisting devilish and dervish vortexes and swastikas, is very very profound.
It also reveals a joke.
We often hear that many quantum leaps in science are by 'accident'.
Thus I contend scientists and our investigations into nature are merely accidents waiting to happen. :D

This post folks is ONE of MY very very BEST in these matters that we have been discussing >>> Sagan/Tesla/DNA/Sound/Swastika/Holy Temples containing Holy Grails all come together. ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058424383&postcount=2373

enjoy.

namaste

Like this "accident"? Are you hinting at a pole shift?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHyz2RKkaCI

[raphael]

Like this "accident"? Are you hinting at a pole shift?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHyz2RKkaCI

I love the connection to the Tippe Top.
And yes I have written about this 'anomaly' that does not seem to adhere to the rules of physics.
This kid's toy was presented as a possible model for a 'flip/reversal', back in the 1990s.
But the scientists of the day (status quo) said an outside force was necessary to assist in the flip...and they also said, there wasn't one.
Wankers

Well a gamma ray burst or some other unknown force, yet to be discovered, could in fact provide what the scientists said was lacking.
But hey I can show where 'SATAN' once passed by our SS, solar system, and caused debris to be ejected from the Oort/Kuiper belt.

I don't believe the fuckers anymore.
There still cling to 'space is a vacuum' bullshit.
Science and religion are fucking each other behind closed doors and screwing with humanity at the same time.
IMHO

http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/images/pagemaster/popes_and_shrooms_3.jpg
Popes and shrooms: http://theartofoneness.blogspot.com/2008/09/amanita-muscaria.html
The Tippe Top looks like a 'mushroom'?
What happens when Tesla ingests mushrooms?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Symbols/Arecibo_message_part_4-1.pnghttp://www.plasma-i.com/assets/site-graphics/Tesla_Tower.jpghttp://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:gIzU6dBRCtGP5M:http://www.radgraphics.net/images/main/ArtilleryShell.jpg
Binary DNA (left), Tesla FREE energy tower (center), and a mushroom cloud?

The Tippe Top looks very much like something Tesla might want to build?
The Tippe Top looks very much like something the Creator might want to utilize as part of a 'perpetual' motion machine, by hiding vast amounts of energy, in nearly empty space, the atom?

This 'archetypal' ARKitecture seems common to TEMPLES and how we would express our DNA in a 'binary language'?

What happens when Popes or the shamans ingest mushrooms?
Well they seem to focus on the same 'trip' or 'experience' as the scientist.
Hmm

HOLY GRAIL found in ARECIBO Message part I
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/holy-grail-found-in-arecibo-message/
HOLY GRAIL found in ARECIBO Message part II
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/08/08/tesla-sagan-make-contact-what-the-holy-grail-looks-like/

2012 The TIPPE TOP and how the Earth ‘REVERSES’ itself
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/2012-the-tippee-top-and-how-the-earth-reverses-itself/

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/IMG_6195-1.jpg

I then incorporated this idea into my garden labyrinth this past sumer. ;)

4 AGES Model Labyrinth part 2
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/4-ages-model-labyrinth-part-2/

4 AGES Model Labyrinth … part 1
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/4-ages-model-labyrinth-part-1/

And if you ever get around to reading those links, and you enjoyed them, here is more.
“2012 = The CROSS of the RISEN CHRIST” = The Day the Earth Stood Still
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/2012-the-cross-of-the-risen-christ-the-day-the-earth-stood-still/

namaste

p.s. yes it is true, my garden labyrinth suggests I am guilty of eating mushrooms and having my consciousness awaken and go BOOM.

[orage]

http://www.pharmacratic-inquisition.com/main/images/pagemaster/popes_and_shrooms_3.jpg
Popes and shrooms: http://theartofoneness.blogspot.com/2008/09/amanita-muscaria.html
The Tippe Top looks like a 'mushroom'?
What happens when Tesla ingests mushrooms?


Nice, I laughed out loud ;) Your mushroom link made me think of something.
http://members.ncats.net/mmcook/images/nisser.jpghttp://prikken.net/catalog/images/scan26.jpghttp://members.ncats.net/mmcook/images/nisser.jpg

In Nordic Countries, and DANmark specifically, there's a popular myth of Nisser connected to Christmas. These mischievous "elves" have to be pacified with treats left in the house, "levninger". They are as much part of Xmas as Santa Claus there.

http://www.bornholmsmuseum.dk/museumsudstil/billeder/nisser2.jpg

Nisse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomte)

there are also folktales where he is believed to be a shapeshifter able to take a shape far larger than an adult man, and other tales where the tomte/nisse is believed to have a single, cyclopean eye. In modern Denmark, nisses are often seen as beardless, wearing grey and red woolens with a red cap. Since nisses are thought to be skilled in illusions and sometimes able to make himself invisible, one was unlikely to get more than brief glimpses of him no matter what he looked like.


This priest calls them daemons.

De er djævelens yngel og har intet at gøre i en kristen jul, mener han.
- Der sker en sammenblanding af kristen og hedensk jul.

Nisser are the devil's offspring, there's been a mix of Pagan and Christian Christmas.

Priest rails against Nisser as Deamons and points to a satanic connection (http://www.tv2nord.dk/default.asp?PageID=5&NewsCategoryID=1&NewsID=204812)

And of course you have RED and WHITE again as dominant colors. http://www.faqs.org/docs/factbook/flags/da-lgflag.gif
I'll look into the other stuff a little later.

[raphael]

good SOUND advice ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86414

How do Masons focus or use sound to 'craft' stone into various Geometric shapes?

What frequency is used for levitation in open spaces?

http://spacecollective.org/userdata/wsjT8y5t/1243284838/cymatics.jpg

http://spacecollective.org/dmitri

From Dr. David Deak, formerly of NASA:
This is an acoustic levitation chamber I designed and built in 1987 as a micro-gravity experiment for NASA related subject matter. The 12 inch cubed plexiglas Helmholtz Resonant Cavity has 3 speakers attached to the cube by aluminium acoustic waveguides. By applying a continuous resonant(600Hertz) sound wave, and by adjusting the amplitude and phase relationship amongst the 3 speakers; I was able to control levitation and movement in all 3 (x,y,z) axis of the ambient space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KzmB2bI7s

Below; Tibetan Monks could/can levitate stones to great heights.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CD0JETuihEE/STfKkYu-g0I/AAAAAAAAEBc/wwjdYPN0QlY/s400/tibmonacle2.gif

Archive for the "...a noble Theory of Everything must include SOUND"
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-sound/

namaste

[raphael]

What happened in 1054 A.D. that gives us a clue, to why the OZONE is being depleted today?

http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=206469#p206469

the above link focuses more on the HIGH FREQUENCY GAMMA RAY BURST...at the other end of the spectrum incredibly low SOUNDs are being emitted from BLACK HOLES...

past present and future are one, united by the SOUND wave being emitted from a black hole?
OOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

if a sound wavelength is 10 billion years long, between the amplitudes, I want to suggest such a 'sound wave' (certainly relative to such cosmic flashes as ourselves) exists as past/present/future.
think about it... ;)

A 10 billion year long wavelength = past present future (as far as the human is concerned)

Now what effect would a 10 billion year long wavelength have on DNA that is about 4 billion years old?
could we still be under its magic spell?

BTW this need not be rocket science. :D
MATH is a tool THEY would use to veil the myth and the music simply understood, the way the ancients did.

The theory of full notes/half notes/quarter notes etc... is very similar to the Inverse square law in physics.

namaste

also being discussed here with the funnyandmentalist wackos who create wacos.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058437498&postcount=2418

[raphael]

if a sound wavelength is 10 billion years long, between the amplitudes, I want to suggest such a 'sound wave' (certainly relative to such cosmic flashes as ourselves) exists as past/present/future.
think about it... ;)

Oops I said AMPLITUdE when I should have said 'CRESTS' ...
It does not change the equation...the bottom line, the song remains the same.

SOUND is the key of life.

namaste

[orage]

Oops I said AMPLITUdE when I should have said 'CRESTS' ...
It does not change the equation...the bottom line, the song remains the same.

SOUND is the key of life.

namaste

Here's a question for you.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpg

How would your favorite cypher sound if translated to harmony? Based on the concept presented in the video below

How we see (http://www.youtube.com/v/mf5otGNbkuc)

@ 13:30 "This is one of those images translated into music, for a 32 piece orchestra." Light, color translated to sound.

@ 12:13 "We translate the light into sound. We enable people to hear their visual world."

[orage]

color-and-music.html (http://sfplamr.blogspot.com/2009/03/color-and-music.html)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LBGGbnB4UZ8/ScBXH2E44QI/AAAAAAAAAbs/RT3JluOZOHc/s320/Color-music+intro.jpg

'The Harmony of the Birth of the World' (Harmonia Nascentis Mundi), represented by a cosmic organ with six registers corresponding to the days of creation (from the Glasgow University Library, Special Collections Department).

http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/images/exhibitions/month/afx9x10/afx9_front.jpg
Creation and sound

The triangle at the top is the symbol of the Holy Trinity and sheds its rays over the whole of the top of the picture. Kircher held to the medieval idea that music is a reflection of the essential mathematics and proportions inherent in all Creation so the Trinity was not only a symbol but a real dogma. Under the Trinity we find the nine angelic, four-voice choirs, singing a 36-part canon by Romano Micheli. The canon is properly described as "canoni sopra le vocali di piu parole" ("on the vowels of a few words") although in the present case the words ascribed are those of the angelic choirs in the Trishagion - "Sanctus, sanctus, sanctus", as described in Revelation. The strip of text reads: "Angelic choir of 36 voices" (then the Sanctus music notated in staff notation) "distributed in 9 choirs".

The middle section is dominated by a globe of the World, on which is seated Musica, holding the lyre of Apollo and the panpipes of Marsyas. The globe is encircled by the Zodiac, and Musica holds also a streamer bearing the legend "Of Athanasius Kircher of the Society of Jesus, Universal Musicmaking or the Art ..." (being the beginning of the full title of the work). Round the last part of the streamer is displayed the dedication "To His Serene Highness Leopold William, Archduke of Austria." Other symbols in this section include rings of dancing mermaids on the shore, a shepherd trying out the echo and the winged horse of the Muses, Pegasus.

The lowest part of the picture shows blacksmiths in a cave: the sound of blacksmiths hammering had led Pythagoras to important conclusions about the nature of pitch and the blacksmiths are acknowledged in the picture by being pointed out by Pythagoras, who also holds an illustration of his theorem, also using triangles, and hence referring obliquely once again to the top of the picture. The muse on the right may be Polymnia who appears in standard pose surrounded by musical instruments of various kinds.

Musurgia Universalis
Rome: 1650
Sp Coll Ferguson Af-x.9 & Af-x.10
The quater-centenary of the birth of the Jesuit polymath, Father Athanasius Kircher (1602-1680), seemed an appropriate moment to examine one of the most famous volumes of his works in Special Collections - the Musurgia Universalis published in two volumes in Rome in 1650. Our copy is outstanding for its finely hand coloured illustrations.

Vol. 1 (Af-x.9): plate between pages 486 & 487

The book is one of the seminal works of musicology and was hugely influential in the development of Western music – in particular on J.S.Bach (1685-1750) and Beethoven (1770-1827).
Its author lived and worked at the Collegio Romano in Rome for most of his life and his position at the hub of a huge international organisation – the 40,000 or so strong Society of Jesus - had two very important effects: first of all he received thousands of letters from Jesuits and others in places as far apart and little-known as China and Mexico, giving him access to unparalleled sources of knowledge mostly unknown to the western world.

This book was only translated once, into German. Long out of print, the Unv. library of Glasgow has a copy.
Musurgia Universalis (http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/month/nov2002.html)

if you know Latin, here's a digital copy

Tome 1 (http://num-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr:8080/465/)

Tome 2 ("http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=557&pos=11)

[decim]

Great post, thanks.

color-and-music.html (http://sfplamr.blogspot.com/2009/03/color-and-music.html)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LBGGbnB4UZ8/ScBXH2E44QI/AAAAAAAAAbs/RT3JluOZOHc/s320/Color-music+intro.jpg

'The Harmony of the Birth of the World' (Harmonia Nascentis Mundi), represented by a cosmic organ with six registers corresponding to the days of creation (from the Glasgow University Library, Special Collections Department).

http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/images/exhibitions/month/afx9x10/afx9_front.jpg
Creation and sound





This book was only translated once, into German. Long out of print, the Unv. library of Glasgow has a copy.
Musurgia Universalis (http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/exhibns/month/nov2002.html)

if you know Latin, here's a digital copy

Tome 1 (http://num-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr:8080/465/)

Tome 2 ("http://imgbase-scd-ulp.u-strasbg.fr/displayimage.php?album=557&pos=11)

[raphael]

Great post, thanks.

ditto...all profound references to SOUND in myth would be appreciated.

Freemasons? Scotland? and the Fylfot? or the Swastikas?

good readin, written by an ordained minister:
http://www.fylfotfile.co.uk/index.php?page=articles

The Fylfot File is a compelling and enlightening study of the forgotten history of the world's most benign symbol - until the rise of Nazism in Western Europe cast a chill shadow over a symbol that had been sunny and welcoming for centuries.

namaste

[decim]

That'll keep me busy a while.
Thanks.

ditto...all profound references to SOUND in myth would be appreciated.

Freemasons? Scotland? and the Fylfot? or the Swastikas?

good readin, written by an ordained minister:
http://www.fylfotfile.co.uk/index.php?page=articles



namaste

[raphael]

That'll keep me busy a while.
Thanks.

welcome...
these are the shortcuts? :confused:


The Holy Spirit?
The power of archetype is recognizing there is no benefit in positing your LITERAL biblical interpretations over another's, but the benefit to be found is acknowledging that truth is truth is truth is truth and it speaks many languages, and your enemy speaks the truth too!!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SSSanctusSpiritusTheHOLYSPIRIT.jpg

Middle Ages SS = Holy Spirit
:eek: good place to start a search for a common truth?
The Holy Spirit as a holy denominator?
If the holy spirit can not bring the beliefs together...this forum NEVER will.

;) The following are all valid representations of the holy spirit / breath...

Hebrew Ruach = breath = spirit (in english)
English = Spirit
Latin =Spiritus
Greek = Pneuma
Sanskrit = Prana

Now if the holier than thou funnyandmentalists can agree on some of the basic fundamentals of what truth is, maybe we can begin to move forward?

Apparently until all the religions and all the sciences start to see eye to eye, we will continue to reBLEAT the same mantra that we have for 2000+ years, an eye for an eye, eventually leads to everybody being blinded.

Does the Holy Spirit = Pi too?
well math is language of truth I am told.
truth is truth is truth is truth :cool: and it comes in many forms and shapes and manifestations.
from time immemorial the circle has been associated with the number 22, a Freemason told me.
Does the Holy Spirit = Pi = 22/7 geometric pi that the Egyptians recognized?
http://www.religionforums.org/thread-1667-post-14622.html#pid14622

namaste

[solarwindspirit]

welcome...
these are the shortcuts? :confused:


The Holy Spirit?
The power of archetype is recognizing there is no benefit in positing your LITERAL biblical interpretations over another's, but the benefit to be found is acknowledging that truth is truth is truth is truth and it speaks many languages, and your enemy speaks the truth too!!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SSSanctusSpiritusTheHOLYSPIRIT.jpg

Middle Ages SS = Holy Spirit
:eek: good place to start a search for a common truth?
The Holy Spirit as a holy denominator?
If the holy spirit can not bring the beliefs together...this forum NEVER will.

;) The following are all valid representations of the holy spirit / breath...

Hebrew Ruach = breath = spirit (in english)
English = Spirit
Latin =Spiritus
Greek = Pneuma
Sanskrit = Prana

Now if the holier than thou funnyandmentalists can agree on some of the basic fundamentals of what truth is, maybe we can begin to move forward?

Apparently until all the religions and all the sciences start to see eye to eye, we will continue to reBLEAT the same mantra that we have for 2000+ years, an eye for an eye, eventually leads to everybody being blinded.

Does the Holy Spirit = Pi too?
well math is language of truth I am told.
truth is truth is truth is truth :cool: and it comes in many forms and shapes and manifestations.
from time immemorial the circle has been associated with the number 22, a Freemason told me.
Does the Holy Spirit = Pi = 22/7 geometric pi that the Egyptians recognized?
http://www.religionforums.org/thread-1667-post-14622.html#pid14622

namaste

http://www.upsidebackwards.info/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=9885

I took comment out because of this phrase here:
the G stands for something “sacred” shouldn't fall into the hands of the “profane”.

Can the sacred fall in the hands of the profane? Looking at history: YES
Than why is it the world seems to view . . .nothing as sacred? hmm

[raphael]

I took comment out because of this phrase here:
the G stands for something “sacred” shouldn't fall into the hands of the “profane”.

Can the sacred fall in the hands of the profane? Looking at history: YES
Than why is it the world seems to view . . .nothing as sacred? hmm

what is profane?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profane
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=8y8&defl=en&q=define:profane&ei=9VUWS_7HNYnglAeVj4inCQ&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CAkQkAE

The word came into English through French from the Latin profanus, and its root is quite revealing. It consists of pro- (before, meaning "against" or "away from") and fanum ("temple"). Something that is profane, then, is literally "against the temple" or even "far from the temple." Biblically, "temple" refers not just to a physical building, but embodies all that takes place there—specifically, the true worship of the true God. Thus, not only can foul words and phrases be "far from the temple"—far from the true worship of God—but also people, behaviors, and even instruments of worship can be profane.

profane = outside of or away from the temple?
So if we view the body as a temple, along with the earth being often interpreted as a temple, then maybe our solar system is a temple too, maybe the entire infinite cosmos is a temple?

temples within temples
wheels within wheels
dolls within dolls
or
between our temples is something that matters, the frontal lobe. ;)

what does profane mean then?

namaste

[orage]

Pope John Paul I
John Paul I

Papacy began 26 August 1978
Papacy ended 28 September 1978
Predecessor Paul VI
Successor John Paul II
Personal details
Birth name Albino Luciani
Born 17 October 1912
Canale d'Agordo, Italy
Died 28 September 1978 (aged 65)
Apostolic Palace, Vatican City
Other Popes named John Paul
Pope John Paul I (Latin: Ioannes Paulus PP. I, Italian: Giovanni Paolo I), born Albino Luciani, (17 October 1912 – 28 September 1978), reigned as Pope of the Catholic Church and as Sovereign of Vatican City from 26 August 1978 until his death 33 days later.

He is also remembered for being the first to refuse the traditional papal coronation. Instead, he chose an "investiture" to commence his brief papacy. One of his remarks, reported in the press, was that we should see God not only as Father, but also as Mother. This remark reinforced the image of a pastoral pope.

Over the days following the conclave, cardinals effectively declared that with general great joy they had elected "God's candidate". Argentine Eduardo Francisco Cardinal Pironio stated that, "We were witnesses of a moral miracle." And later, Mother Teresa commented: "He has been the greatest gift of God, a sunray of God's love shining in the darkness of the world."

33 and female/male persona God

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/1819457628_bc70d2729d.jpg?v=0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_I

[raphael]

Jesus is another of the profound ARKetypes that can be traced back to the source, the tribe of ARCHetypes. ;)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058456390&postcount=2474

I WANT RELIGION TO EXPLAIN THE ANOMALIES OF SCIENCE AND I WANT SCIENCE TO EXPLAIN THE MIRACLES OF RELIGION. :confused:
Maybe meet half way.

namaste

[sofa king]

The info in this Freemason expose, is rather enlightening, especially in regards to the information about the SWASTIKA.

IF the author of the Royal Secret was aware of the profound universality of the swastika, would Hitler and Himmler have known?

The writing of the Royal Secret was taking place during the same time that Hitler had adopted the flag for his party, in 1920.


Raphael

historical records indicate that yes, Hitler and co. were aware. The Nazis did have a very active psychic/esoteric/metaphysical tast force. So much so that the UK formed their own (including the likes of Crowley) just in case they were right.

Another historical nugget is that Hitler sent Freemasons to the gas chambers not necessarily because he was threatened. He wanted the Freemasons to reveal all of their secrets and when they didnt, he outlawed them (not unlike Philip IV and the Templars)

German Freemasons during WW2 identified thmselves to Allied Freemasons by wearing a Forget-me-not flower.

So yes, Hitler was very, very and very much convinced that he could use the power of psychics as a war tool.

[marpat]

I have been posting on various threads....discussing Freemasons and their craft.
What nonsense these underlings spew.

I want to assist in opening some eyes, using this book as guide...and a few others.

"Whoever has ears to hear should hear..." ;)

Please do click to LOOK INSIDE.
>> http://www.amazon.com/Royal-Secret-I-Edward-Clark/dp/1564594947

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31JH7Q8MAML._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

You can access some of the book at that link.
I really do hope many of you buy this valuable aid to understanding Phreemasonry and the symbols they use.

And many of you will begin to understand my stance when I present information regarding the swastika, without thinking I am some kind of neo-nazi.

This particular link to another thread is discussing the Legend of Hiram Abif.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1289011&postcount=94
A very big deal in the craft.

Shall the initiation begin?
I promise you, that you will rise faster through the ranks than the ignorant Freemasons on this forum.
Honestly most of them, I have come too learn are ignorant plebes "who do not know what they do."

namaste

Isnt advertising against forum rules?

[raphael]

Isnt advertising against forum rules?

what am I advertising?
I am merely listing some of my 'sources'.

maybe I should just spew ignorance like the rest of the folk, who only post their opinions, rarely posting a link to the chink in their chains, that they like to rattle?

namaste

[marpat]

what am I advertising?
I am merely listing some of my 'sources'.

maybe I should just spew ignorance like the rest of the folk, who only post their opinions, rarely posting a link to the chink in their chains, that they like to rattle?

namaste

Sorry I thought I saw a link to amazon and you asking somebody if they are going to buy the book

[sofa king]

what am I advertising?
I am merely listing some of my 'sources'.

maybe I should just spew ignorance like the rest of the folk, who only post their opinions, rarely posting a link to the chink in their chains, that they like to rattle?

namaste



no, you're correct. this is a link, not a purchase recommendation.

[raphael]

welcome...
these are the shortcuts? :confused:


The Holy Spirit?
The power of archetype is recognizing there is no benefit in positing your LITERAL biblical interpretations over another's, but the benefit to be found is acknowledging that truth is truth is truth is truth and it speaks many languages, and your enemy speaks the truth too!!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SSSanctusSpiritusTheHOLYSPIRIT.jpg

Middle Ages SS = Holy Spirit
:eek: good place to start a search for a common truth?
The Holy Spirit as a holy denominator?
If the holy spirit can not bring the beliefs together...this forum NEVER will.

;) The following are all valid representations of the holy spirit / breath...

Hebrew Ruach = breath = spirit (in english)
English = Spirit
Latin =Spiritus
Greek = Pneuma
Sanskrit = Prana

Now if the holier than thou funnyandmentalists can agree on some of the basic fundamentals of what truth is, maybe we can begin to move forward?

Apparently until all the religions and all the sciences start to see eye to eye, we will continue to reBLEAT the same mantra that we have for 2000+ years, an eye for an eye, eventually leads to everybody being blinded.

Does the Holy Spirit = Pi too?
well math is language of truth I am told.
truth is truth is truth is truth :cool: and it comes in many forms and shapes and manifestations.
from time immemorial the circle has been associated with the number 22, a Freemason told me.
Does the Holy Spirit = Pi = 22/7 geometric pi that the Egyptians recognized?
http://www.religionforums.org/thread-1667-post-14622.html#pid14622

namaste

So how do I link 22/7 = Pi = Holy Spirit to the bigger picture?

It occurred to me to do some math when I noted the date of the GAMMA RAY BURST, JULY 4th 1054 A.D.?
must read to understand WTF 1054 A.D. >>> http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058464355&postcount=3

Coincidence?

Born on the 4th of July?
1776 - 1054 = 722

Do you ever read RIGHT to LEFT, as many people do?
Thus I see both 722 AND 227 OR 22/7

And of course a cooling earth in 1054 could be seen as fahrenheit 451 in reverse. :eek:
The creator alchemist is such a sublime, subtle, funny, clever, poetic trickster. ;)

NO such thing as coincidences, there is a design, plain and clear.
But don't listen to me, I do belong to the Council of the Wolf ... and wolf I warn you in reverse is FLOW.

And the circle of 5ths, the WOLF interval, suggests Pythagorean wisdom plays a role?
maybe...

namaste

p.s. the 23 day window opened on July 4th, 1054 and closed on July 27th, 1054.
WHY is that so interesting?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058464809&postcount=5

[tinyint]

I was going to ask you the same thing gs?
why don't you take your swastika ignorance elsewhere?

the entry to this thread is acknowledging or debating the following:

The SWASTIKA = KEY to Universal Movement

And the fucking ancients knew it, and they left us clues. :p
And fellas like you gs are the ignorant trolls they use to help veil the OBVIOUS, an obvious truth that has NOT been hidden from view.
Actually in the west...the swastika has been placed front and center into the western consciousness, as a symbol of oppression, to be feared if resurrected.
THEY HAVE HIDDEN THE TRUTH OUT IN THE OPEN.

The swastika forms a BIG part of the OBVIOUS fucking truth about the universal movements at the molecular level AND at the celestial level too.

Clockwise vs. counter or anti-Clockwise rotations = quantum spin and planets on their orbits.

Here is something I wrote about Denver Airport and the Freemason/Rosicrucian symbolism found there:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=198346#p198346

Interesting swastika info found here:
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/swas.html

namaste

Raphael

I think you are on the very right track :)
Masons seem to be the arch-enemies of the swastica, even though they know about very, very well.
I think it also symbolizes a vortex ^^
Namaste

[raphael]

I think you are on the very right track :)
Masons seem to be the arch-enemies of the swastica, even though they know about very, very well.
I think it also symbolizes a vortex ^^
Namaste

And Hitler banished the Freemasons, believing them to be part of a Jewish conspiracy.
And the Vatican is not fond of Freemasons either, so they say.
And the Pope likes to wear a yarmulke.

What is IRONIC is the fact that the Freemasons and the Vatican veil the swastika, but behind closed doors, they show a reverence for the swastika...ALL Hitler did, was bring it front and center.

namaste

[tinyint]

And Hitler banished the Freemasons, believing them to be part of a Jewish conspiracy.
And the Vatican is not fond of Freemasons either, so they say.
And the Pope likes to wear a yarmulke.

What is IRONIC is the fact that the Freemasons and the Vatican veil the swastika, but behind closed doors, they show a reverence for the swastika...ALL Hitler did, was bring it front and center.

namaste

Yes, they must be laughing behind closed doors at the moment.

Can I invite you to this thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93947) ?
I think, we should probably exchange thoughts... :D

Namaste

Edit: In the earlier thread, there was a discussion about cymatics and creation.
I might missed it, but I have not found R.R.Tolkiens "Simarillon" mentioned.

[raphael]

Here is another book printed prior to the NAZIs adopting the swastika mantra in the 1920s, that I would recommend.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FYKNRA4QL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

TAKE a peek:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=7C4X-lTjrT0C&dq=albert+churchward+arcana+of+freemasonry&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=wug__RiQt-&sig=ql-gcFS7ZJdT_72ZgCL-SSp3DCE&hl=en&ei=kCIiS-fsE8bQlAeousiACg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Download the book:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22305262/The-Arcana-of-Freemasonry-by-Albert-Church-Ward

Once you have acquired access to this book...
Read the entries about the SWASTIKA.

About the Author

Dr. Albert Churchward (1852-1925) was a Mason and member of the Geological Society of London. He is the well-respected author of books delving into the evolution of symbols through history in The Origin and Evolution of Religion, Signs and Symbols of Primordial Man, and The Origin and Evolution of the Human Race. He also collaborated extensively with his brother James Churchward, noted author of The Lost Continent of Mu and an additional series of books about the lost continent.

Cool.
James and Albert are brothers.
I should have clued in.

I did notice AC sports my former FF badge numbers in his date of birth.
#1258
One of the numerical clues that I am following as I time travel.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BCKeytoUnive.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/MUKeyofUniversalMovement-1.jpg
Image on the left is from Samarra Iraq, 5000 BC, image on the right was referred to as the 'Key to Universal Movement' by the ancestors of the Aztec.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/eclectic-swastika-and-an-electric-sun/

And it was Al's brother James that found the symbol called the KEY to Universal Movement (swastika) in the ruins of ancient 'mexico city'.
And maybe we should have a look at what his brother/author James Churchward found in Mexico too?
Ancient mesoamerican cuneiform, known as the Niven Tablets, that disappeared?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BChurricane.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/DigitalSkySurveyofMilkyWay-1.jpg

Plate next to a digital sky survey of the MILKY WAY...
Is there a much deeper meaning to the plate?
Is the plate a MODEL of the Milky Way from 5000 BC?
>> http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/

other reading recommendations?
this site lists a quite a few... ;)
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14053
some great images, like this NEXT one...

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/4/6/15/f_mysteriesm_4f78f8d.png

Please note the KEYSTONE = 69

How does it match up with the ARCH and KEYSTONE found in St. Louis?

Construction of the Gateway arch started on February 12, 1963 and was completed on October 28, 1965.

interesting 'numbers' used in its ARKitecture.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Arch


The date of completion caught my eye immediately.

Oct. 28/1965 OR 10/28/1965
Remove the notation...
10281965

Then remove the CODE I stumbled and bumbled upon, connecting the Tarot/Freemason/Christian/Egyptian mysteries CODE found on CARD X.
BTW CARD X solves X.

The CODE on CARD X is 11258.
Remove those numbers from the date of completion of the GATEWAY between EAST and WEST.

Date with no notation: 10281965 ... remove the CODE 11258 ... remainder 096

What do we do with the 0?
Place it at the beginning of the CODE 11258?

0, 1, 1, 2, ?, 5, 8 = fibonacci and phi and golden concepts...ask MacDonalds about the Golden Arch shaped like an 'M' or is it a W, E or 3?
? = the missing '3' in the above CODE?
(yes)

But what do we do with the 96?
Read from RIGHT to LEFT?
96 = 69 = KEYSTONE

Thus we place 69 = KEYSTONE...

Oct. 28/1965 is the date of completion when the KEYSTONE on the St. Louis Gateway Arch was put into place.

http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/keystone.gif

KEYSTONE SHAPE and story:
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/decalog.html
http://kingsgarden.org/English/Organizations/OMM.GB/WomenWriters/AliceBailey/SevenRays/Astrology/img1199-3.gif
KEYSTONE = ARROW shape and story:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/10/24/4-ages-model-labyrinth-part-2/

The above KEYSTONE SHAPE was put into place on Oct. 28/1965, connecting the TWO halves of the ARCH. (connecting north and south?)
Just a coincidence they chose this date to complete the Royal Arch/ARK?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2514/3984362834_f9ba5560d2.jpg

St.Louis Gateway Arch, October 28, 1965, setting the KEYSTONE = 69

BUSTED...

So my next question would be, what are the FREEMASONS/NASA doing on the MOON?
Really?

69 = Cancer = only astrological sign aSSigned the MOON.
the only one...

....and the story continues with the Crab Nebula in the constellation Taurus going supernova in 1054 A.D.?

Can't make this shit up folks...it has already been written.

Raphael

[raphael]

Freemasonry is good, right? :rolleyes:

**ALERT** FREEMASONS "CHIP" KIDS AT LOCAL FAIR!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7octwsoi4HM

Disgusting.

The above video discusses culling the herd of sheeple down to 500 million?

;)

another coincidence?
just this morning, as I read The Arcana of Freemasonry, a reference was made to 500 million, in a passage discussing an ancient unit of measure.

Egyptians, Pi and 500 million:
The value of the Egyptian inch has been extrapolated from the measures in the Great Pyramid and from surviving measuring rods. It was a mathematical entity that was used to measure the Earth based in Pi. The Egyptians measured the Polar diameter as 500 million inches or 20 million Sacred Cubits and by consequence the number of inches in the circumference of the Earth was Pi (3.1416) x 500,000,000 or 1,570,800,000"

sir john herschel and 500 million:
http://books.google.ca/books?id=Aq7MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=500+million+inches+circumference&source=bl&ots=AAWgfQjzC3&sig=H4nulyOYBJjp3omzmgRddC39Q7Q&hl=en&ei=k6cjS-WLL4K-lAesiPH2CQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=500%20million%20inches%20circumference&f=false

The Freemasons and 500 million?
500 million = pi = freemasons making life perfect :eek:
Out of Chaos comes Freemason order... :cool:

These dapper 'rappers' cannot do math though.
In reference to the 'culling' ratio the fella on the right quotes the Master 33 degree Mason as suggesting "for every 5 humans, '4' must go"

4 and 5 mentioned again?
What is the connection though to Pythagoras and the 'CROSSOVER FREQUENCY of 4.5?

How does 5:4 ratio equate in getting 6+ billion down to 500 million?
A ratio closer to, for every 12 humans, 11 must perish...
33rd level mason knows better...

Retina scans?
Best way to tell if money is fake...look at the eyes on the money.
Real money has real looking eyes...

SOUND aka Voice print?
What THEY hide from the sheeple and seegulliblies is the ROLE SOUND PLAYS in maintaining a harmonius happy human race.
THEY spread bullshit and lies and veil the truth.

Fingerprints?
Don't you love the whorls and phi swirls that define each of us.

Archive for the ‘"...a noble Theory of Everything must include SOUND"’ Category:
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/a-noble-theory-of-everything-must-include-sound/

namaste

[raphael]

since 22/7 isnt the solution for pi, what is?
You must have had some idea how I might answer you? :lol:
There is more than one version for pi but they ALL seem to add up or down to 14.

a/ Egyptian pi and Holy Spirit = 22/7

b/ Modern pi = 3.1415 ... and 3+1+4+1+5 = 14

c/ Vedic pi = 3.1464466 ... and 3+1+4+6 = 14 ;)
http://www.jainmathemagics.com/page/10/default.asp

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/masonic.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Squaring_the_circle.svg/180px-Squaring_the_circle.svg.png
Swastika = ancient Pi solution
next to an image of squaring the circle = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squaring_the_circle

page 459 of the link below is where those 2 swastika symbols came from
Freemason 'G'eometry 101 :cool: http://books.google.ca/books?id=94oMEDk5Nv0C&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=Ancient+Freemasonry,+An+Introduction+To+The+Stu dy+Of+Masonic+Archaeology.&source=bl&ots=W2DII5T_xp&sig=uYl2dzNTVm7E0I8Se4bdfoPOG4Q&hl=en&ei=Lg8pS4XsLZTjlAez-fSeDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CA4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

Pi is played on an 8 x 8 chess board...we are given a clue to how two Knights, one Red and one White would square the circle?
But we also see a 16 x 16 grid.
And I know where we can match it up.
To music.
To Pythagoras and the Lambdoma.

http://michaelgreenwell.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/swastika-india.jpg?w=510&h=336
16 x 16 Lambdoma grid
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=195574#p195574

So without a doubt we can connect the ancient swastika to pi and maybe to a fella called Pythagoras too?
What else can we connect the divine swastika too.
Have I missed anything sacred?

namaste

[thetonic]

And Hitler banished the Freemasons, believing them to be part of a Jewish conspiracy.
And the Vatican is not fond of Freemasons either, so they say.
And the Pope likes to wear a yarmulke.


Hitler himself is part of the Zionist Jewish conspiracy... WWII was a scharade to allow for the Zionists to take control of Israel and Pallestien as was figured in the ancient satanic bibles long long ago

[raphael]

Hitler himself is part of the Zionist Jewish conspiracy... WWII was a scharade to allow for the Zionists to take control of Israel and Pallestien as was figured in the ancient satanic bibles long long ago

Is?

Satanic bibles?
Oy vey

No wonder it was so easy for the Roman Catholic raised Christian Hitler to lead a group of rabid Christians of all denominations through europe doing the goose-step rounding up Jews, Commies, gypsys, tramps, thieves and Freemasons?

They all believe in satan.

I wonder if Hitler the Roman Catholic/Chrisitian/Zionist Nazi would have been successful if the German volk had been raised as Buddhists or Jains?

namaste

[tinyint]

Hitler himself is part of the Zionist Jewish conspiracy... WWII was a scharade to allow for the Zionists to take control of Israel and Pallestien as was figured in the ancient satanic bibles long long ago

That might be true, since he was surrounded by half-jewish people, a big secret that is.
Despite of this, I seriously think, there was another force at play behind the nazis, not aligning to zionists.

Lol @ synchronicity, me thinks pythagoraen 345

[raphael]

Lol @ synchronicity, me thinks pythagoraen 345

345?

;) '43' the Freemason Square and DNA
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/43-the-freemason-compass-and-dna/

:D 43 = 64 = DNA = Philosophical Egg = Electric Universe
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/dna-egg-43-electric-universe-64/

namaste

p.s. this site was passed on.
http://foto.delfi.lt/album/18517/?page=4
GREAT site for swastika images of all kinds.

[tinyint]

345?

;) '43' the Freemason Square and DNA
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/43-the-freemason-compass-and-dna/

:D 43 = 64 = DNA = Philosophical Egg = Electric Universe
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/01/27/dna-egg-43-electric-universe-64/

namaste

p.s. this site was passed on.
http://foto.delfi.lt/album/18517/?page=4
GREAT site for swastika images of all kinds.


345 does not make anymore sense.
We both quoted and posted at 3:45 PM, now the time is different?!

Thanks for the links and I've already bookmarked your blog :)
namaste

Edit: funny that, now the time of the post reverted back to 3:45 from 11:45 :eek:

[raphael]

MORE info on the ARCH, the KEYSTONE, Jesus and the CODE found on CARD X

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058488233&postcount=2488

namaste

Raphael

[humito]

what about the norway spiral.........the elite were there to witness it........was it a comet being sucked into the black hole at galactic central point? you think it tiesa in with all this?

[raphael]

what about the norway spiral.........the elite were there to witness it........was it a comet being sucked into the black hole at galactic central point? you think it tiesa in with all this?

maybe

[humito]

maybe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs8-NBlbMbw

[humito]

that spiral is in the masonic eye on the dollar bill..its the secret of the highest..........

[raphael]

that spiral is in the masonic eye on the dollar bill..its the secret of the highest..........

the masons were not the only ones to use it.
were they?

I like the mirror to represent secrets.
the mirror is the best symbol to represent symbols and what most of this mumbo jumbo defaults to.

mirror = the ABCs of the x y and z axis.
mirror helps us understand reflections and rotations.

namaste

[humito]

the masons were not the only ones to use it.
were they?

I like the mirror to represent secrets.
the mirror is the best symbol to represent symbols and what most of this mumbo jumbo defaults to.

mirror = the ABCs of the x y and z axis.
mirror helps us understand reflections and rotations.

namaste................yes as above so below...............

no of course.........that spiral has been depicted since mankind could scrawl on cave walls.........especially in Norway.......

let the masons and the elite hide in the caves and underground bases.....when they crawl out thinking they will have control again in this dimension after its over i think they will be surprised this time!

bring it on lol............:)

[raphael]

................yes as above so below...............

no of course.........that spiral has been depicted since mankind could scrawl on cave walls.........especially in Norway.......

let the masons and the elite hide in the caves and underground bases.....when they crawl out thinking they will have control again in this dimension after its over i think they will be surprised this time!

bring it on lol............:)

Knights of Malta associated with the masons?
Spirals found in Malta going back to the days of the Pharaohs?

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/malta/images/tarxien-6.jpg
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/tree-of-life-and-ka-and-magnetism/

namaste

[ericbs5247]

Raphael,

Have you read "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" by Manly P. Hall? He goes into a lot of detail about Freemasonic theology. It's very interesting stuff. There is some heavy philosophy to wade through, but it is a worthwhile read for sure. I have the entire book embedded in my blog below:

Politics and the Occult, Bohemian Grove, Beginnings of the Round Table Groups, The Rothschilds, Freemasonry, The Georgia Guidestones, and much much more:
Occult Mystery Schools - Illuminati - NWO (http://occult-mystery-schools-illuminati.blogspot.com/)

Even if you believe that all Freemasons are evil devil-worshiping power hungry trolls, shouldn't you try to learn everything you can about your enemy?

Personally, I think that there are good masons who want nothing more than to pursue truth (Manly P. Hall), and masons who would use their knowledge for egotistical purposes (Aleister Crowley, Rothschilds, Cecil Rhodes, ect.). Of course I can't prove it though.

[kguk]

I recently purchased a book, Celestial Ship of the North, from the same publishers Kessinger. It had the 13th chapter missing. Fortunately with a quick search you can find the book in pdf with the chapter included but its still not the same as it lacks illustrations. Their website isn't much useful either for contacting them.

[raphael]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/God_the_Geometer.jpg/250px-God_the_Geometer.jpg

Christ the geometer ... what would the son of god know about pi and laws of nature ... would he have anything worthwhile to share?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058498447&postcount=2526

namaste

[raphael]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/God_the_Geometer.jpg/250px-God_the_Geometer.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/SwastikaontheChestofApollo-1.jpg

Christ the geometer ... Apollo the charioteer

Everybody LOVES the swastika...;)

namaste

[1977]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4d/God_the_Geometer.jpg/250px-God_the_Geometer.jpg

I've always wondered about this picture—is that a Mandelbrot set?

[tinyint]

I've always wondered about this picture—is that a Mandelbrot set?

I'd say yes it is :)

[raphael]

Plus, you are on a thread in the religious section of this forum and calling people "wankers" for believing in a religion. So don't come the persecuted non-PC with me, okay?

You like throwing insults around, eh?

May God have mercy on your soul.

no Plus needed mikey...

the reason I call 'em IGNORANT wankers is because they are...

But you and they are in good company, most folks are IGNORANT about a 10,000 year old good luck symbol we can trace to the NAZIs who used it, the Tibetans and Jains who still do use it, and we can also trace the swastika to the FREEMASONs and the VATICAN who use it, and show it reverence BEHIND closed doors, or they veil it openly.

So where did HITLER the Christian, who was raised as a ROMAN CATHOLIC get the idea for the swastika and in particular the color scheme?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

Well it is clear HITLER got the BLACK, WHITE and RED color scheme from the Teutonic Knights who got it from the Roman Catholic Church, whom they 'served'. ;)

Teutonic Knights :cool:

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/ArchdukeEugenreceivesaTeutonicKn-1.jpg

The Last of the Teutonic Grand Masters Archduke Eugen and please take note of the ghostly image of the Pope/Archbishop in the background...


The Order of the Teutonic Knights of St. Mary's Hospital in Jerusalem [1] (Official names: Latin: Ordo domus Sanctæ Mariæ Theutonicorum Hierosolymitanorum, German: Orden der Brüder vom Deutschen Haus St. Mariens in Jerusalem), or for short the Teutonic Order (Today: German Order), is a German Roman Catholic religious order. It was formed to aid Catholics on their pilgrimages to the Holy Land and to establish hospitals to care for the sick and injured. Its members have commonly been known as the Teutonic Knights, since they also served as a crusading military order during the Middle Ages. The membership was always small and whenever the need arose, volunteers or mercenaries augmented the military forces.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/ArchdukeEugenreceivesaTeutonicKn-2.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

Interesting BLACK, WHITE and RED color scheme they are using in that image...surrounding what appears to be a 'THRONE'. ;)

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/ArchdukeEugenreceivesaTeutonicKn-3.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaMandala.jpghttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:uNulnsiBC4LfRM%3Ahttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikainSantaCatalina_AVATAR.jpg

And the fact we can find another PERFECT MATCH to the color scheme in Peru, connected to a Roman Catholic monastery, dated hundreds of years BEFORE Hitler, suggests what?

FACT not to be dismissed: In addition to targeting the Jews and the Freemasons, Hitler also forced the Teutonic Knights to disband and leave town in 1938.
The Teutonic Knights were then 'resurrected' in 1945.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2GyGv-RqFM&feature=related
The SWASTIKA folks is without a doubt a WINDOW into the mind of how the lord operates.
It is obvious that the EVIL dark lords have VEILeD this GOOD LUCK symbol.

namaste

p.s.
more insights about those 3 colors plus yellow or gold, and remember colors are frequencies...and the Book of Enoch
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058475455&postcount=143
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=221865#p221865

[grandsecretary]

I've always wondered about this picture—is that a Mandelbrot set?

It is a mathematical representation of the Universe.

[raphael]

It is a mathematical representation of the Universe.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/zoom10mandelbrot.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.pnghttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:uNulnsiBC4LfRM%3Ahttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikainSantaCatalina_AVATAR.jpg

Can we find the SWASTIKA in the Mandelbrot set?
Can we find the SWASTIKA represented by the ROSETTA FRACTAL Mandala in the quantum world of fractals?

We all know the answer to such a silly question.
found here:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140427#p140427

namaste

[thelonious]

So where did HITLER the Christian, who was raised as a ROMAN CATHOLIC get the idea for the swastika and in particular the color scheme?



The Nazi Party used the swastika as their symbol long before Hitler became a member. They got it from the Thule Society, who had used it previously to the Nazi Party's founding. Many early members of the Nazi Party had also been Thulists, including Himmler.

THULE SOCIETY SYMBOL WITH SWASTIKA:

http://www.proswastika.org/e107_images/custom/thule-gesellschaft_emblem.jpg

[raphael]

The Nazi Party used the swastika as their symbol long before Hitler became a member. They got it from the Thule Society, who had used it previously to the Nazi Party's founding. Many early members of the Nazi Party had also been Thulists, including Himmler.

THULE SOCIETY SYMBOL WITH SWASTIKA:

http://www.proswastika.org/e107_images/custom/thule-gesellschaft_emblem.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

Your image is in BLACK and WHITE...considering how much RED blood was spilled in the war, why did they decide on the colors BLACK and WHITE and RED?

I am familiar with Thule.
Well I guess it is your word and the 'Thule' historians, and trips to Tibet, against the word of Hitlers?
Better to tie the entire occult thing to the occultists, ignoring the black magicians in the church eh?

In his 1925 work Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler wrote that:

I myself, meanwhile, after innumerable attempts, had laid down a final form; a flag with a red background, a white disk, and a black swastika in the middle. After long trials I also found a definite proportion between the size of the flag and the size of the white disk, as well as the shape and thickness of the swastika.

When Hitler created a flag for the Nazi Party, he sought to incorporate both the swastika and "those revered colors expressive of our homage to the glorious past and which once brought so much honor to the German nation." (Red, white, and black were the colors of the flag of the old German Empire.) He also stated: "As National Socialists, we see our program in our flag. In red, we see the social idea of the movement; in white, the nationalistic idea; in the swastika, the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work."[48]




And did you know that the THULE swastika we see in the image above is a direct knockoff of the Mexican Calender Wheel/swastika?

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20456/20456-h/images/image13-full.png

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20456/20456-h/20456-h.htm
And with interest I want to mention the J.P. Morgan/Chase Bank Logo = AZTEC swastika too.
Along with the Rogers WireleSS Communications logo in Canada.
And I must mention a most interesting connection between the AZTEC Book of 22 Days (calender) and the 22 cards of the Major Arcana in the Tarot?
And the empire of Pierpont Morgan has the remnants of one of the oldest Tarot decks in its museum?

YES
YES
YES

And each of those ARMS above are composed of 13 (5+8) squares/cubes.
4 x 13 = 52

And everybody who studies meso-american calenders knows that the number 52 is sacred...along with 13.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20456/20456-h/images/image15-full.png

You folks need to realize I am taking this dog and pony show UP ONE LEVEL, at least ONE.

namaste

[orage]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/Flag_of_German_Empire_%28jack_1903%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_German_Empire_%28jack_1903%29.svg.png

Flag of the German Empire. 1871-1918, also used as War Flag 1933-1935

Diese neue Flagge entstand 1867 aus den Farben Preußens (schwarz-weiß) und denen der norddeutschen Städte und Länder, sowie aus Tradition zur alten Flagge der Hansestädte (weiß-rot) als Flagge des Norddeutschen Bundes.

This new flag was created 1867 from the colors of Prussia's flag (black & white) <snip> and those of the traditional flag of the Hanse and the Northern-German Union (white & red).

These colors Red, White and Black were used for a range of German flags. Hitler most likely wanted to be associated with that other Chancellor- Bismark, the uniter of the Reich.

marine flags (http://www.marine-seewoelfe.de/flaggen/)

The Bund, Weimar Republic, and both post-war German states used Black, Red, Gold as colors.

[sofa king]

Your image is in BLACK and WHITE...considering how much RED blood was spilled in the war, why did they decide on the colors BLACK and WHITE and RED?





how many nations have red in their flags?

sorry friend, that is a silly statement

[raphael]

how many nations have red in their flags?

sorry friend, that is a silly statement

go back to the beginning of the thread and look for the part of how important certain colors are...
or at least go back this far...duh..
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058549731&postcount=126

don't be such a dick...this is an ongoing discussion.
IGNORANT wankers jumping in on page 14 off the sofa, are clearly IGNORANT.

do I need to point out the importance of those 4 colors again and again and again to every internet punk that logs on? :eek:

fuck off.

namaste

[thelonious]

fuck off.

namaste

Am I the only one to see the hypocrisy in using those statements together?

[raphael]

Am I the only one to see the hypocrisy in using those statements together?

duh no
but you are one of the punks who fail to realize why I use it...

how namaste = swastika?
any idea how they connect?

I did not think so.
here read this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058534222&postcount=277

If ignorance is bliss...skip the link, stay a dink.

namaste

[kasalt]

Am I the only one to see the hypocrisy in using those statements together?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1099403&highlight=namaste#post1099403

[thelonious]

duh no
but you are one of the punks who fail to realize why I use it...

how namaste = swastika?
any idea how they connect?

I did not think so.

fuck off

namaste

I think your utter ignorance only rivals the destitution in your character. Have a nice day.

[raphael]

I think your utter ignorance only rivals the destitution in your character. Have a nice day.

another holier than thou judge I presume?
I see you choose to remain a dink by refusing my link.

fuck off with your judeao/christian satan/santa message ya wanker...

mesatan/namaste

[orage]

Well it is clear HITLER got the BLACK, WHITE and RED color scheme from the Teutonic Knights who got it from the Roman Catholic Church, whom they 'served'. ;)

Teutonic Knights :cool:

In addition, the Black Cross of the Order became the Iron Cross of the Reich.

Nazi search for occult symbols and Nordic origins led to the adaptation of the teutonic Order. Its rituals and Castles were used for Himmler's SS, who imagined the SS to be a continuation. Nazi marches often had Knights in armor, and there's an image of Hitler as a shining knight.

In 1929 the Teutonic Knights were converted to a purely spiritual Roman Catholic religious order and were renamed Deutscher Orden ("German Order"). After Austria's annexation by Nazi Germany, the Teutonic Order was suppressed throughout the Großdeutsches Reich from 1938 to 1945, although the Nazis used imagery of the medieval Teutonic Knights for propaganda purposes.

http://www.museumofworldwarii.com/Images2005/02HitlerKnightlge.gif

Here's the adaptation of the Iron Cross to Nazi cross
http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/medals-german/star-gd-cross.jpg
http://www.thirdreich.ca/germancross/full/114.jpg

[raphael]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/VaticanTheHolySpiritTIMEClock.jpghttp://www.diggerhistory.info/images/medals-german/star-gd-cross.jpg

The same colors used again again and again, this time in the Vatican?

BLACK WHITE RED YELLOW/GOLD

....and GREEN (which represents the HOLY SPIRIT)

thanks for proving not all forum members are dicks orage... ;)

namaste

[orage]

The Nazi Party used the swastika as their symbol long before Hitler became a member. They got it from the Thule Society, who had used it previously to the Nazi Party's founding. Many early members of the Nazi Party had also been Thulists, including Himmler.

THULE SOCIETY SYMBOL WITH SWASTIKA:

http://www.proswastika.org/e107_images/custom/thule-gesellschaft_emblem.jpg

Thule society was an offspring of Masonic lodges. It also has ties to Skull & Bones and the Germanic Order. Skull & Bones was the symbolism of the inner order, the elite of the SS. Another occult foundation of Nazi myth was the Vrill society, a mostly female group interested in Blavatsky and the Bell.

They were looking into inner-earth and anti-gravity mechanism. Let me see if I can find the Hanebu and the Bell.
http://greyfalcon.us/pictureaaa/al301a.jpg

Secrets of the Webelsburg, of the Teutonic Order. Berlin was called Tempelhof, Templar's grounds back in the heyday of the Teutonic Order.
Can a Swastika create a vortex? Counterclockwise and clockwise movement in the Bell.
http://www.causa-nostra.com/vril/cn810/gx/Zu-Einblick-Okt-2008-Webelsburg-2--g0810a02.jpg

[thelonious]

Thule society was an offspring of Masonic lodges.

The Thule Society had absolutely no relation to Freemasonry.

It also has ties to Skull & Bones and the Germanic Order.

Skull and Bones is a college frat, also with no relation to Thule.

[orage]

The Thule Society had absolutely no relation to Freemasonry.

The Thule-Gesellschaft (Thule Society) was founded August 17, 1918, by Rudolf von Sebottendorff. He had been schooled in occultism, Islamic mysticism, alchemy, Rosicrucianism and much else, in Turkey, where he had also been initiated into Freemasonry. ... The Germanenorden was a secret society in Germany early in the 20th century. Formed by several prominent German occultists in 1912, the order, whose symbol was a Swastika, had a hierarchical fraternal structure similar to freemasonry. It taught to its initiates nationalist ideologies of Nordic race superiority, anti-Semitism as well as occult, almost magical philosophies. Some say that the Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei (later the Nazi Party) when under the leadership of Adolf Hitler was a political front, and indeed the organization reflected many ideologies of the party, including the swastika symbol. The Thule Society, another secret society with similar ideologies and symbols was also closely linked to this.


With the victory of the Nazi Party, the occult tradition was carried on in the Third Reich mainly by the SS, who Reichsführer, Himmler, was an avid student of the occult. An SS occult research department, the Ahnernerbe (Ancestral Heritage) was established in 1935 with SS Colonel Wolfram von Sievers at its head. Occult research took SS researchers as far afield as Tibet. Sievers had the Tantrik prayer, the Bardo Thodol, read over his body after his execution at Nuremberg.

National Socialism and the Third Reich represented a major attempt by high esoteric Adepts to re-establish a Culture based on the Laws of Nature, against the entrenched forces of anti-Life. Nothing that ambitious had been tried since the founding of the American Republic by Masonic adepts.
http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Thule%20Gesellschaft.htm


Skull and Bones is a college frat, also with no relation to Thule.

Symbols of Skull & Bones
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Skull_and_Bones_tomb.jpg/200px-Skull_and_Bones_tomb.jpgMasonic temple or skull & bones tomb?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Bones_logo.jpg/180px-Bones_logo.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R65485%2C_Joachim_Peiper.jpg/180px-Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-R65485%2C_Joachim_Peiper.jpg
Skull & Bones on SS hat

Now did Warburg, Union Bank and bonesman Prescott Bush finance Hitler? Among others, yes. You may not like the connections, but you can't continue to veil them. Can one connect the dots to the Vatican as well, in dual-control of crypto-Jewish Jesuits and through banking by the Rothschild bankers? Can you go back to the Bavarian order of the Illuminati? Who gave the order and support to Rothschild to unleash the chaotic powers of war and revolution, while using banking to control Monarchs and corrupt democracy? Is the reverse swastika an instrument of chaos?

One should not underestimate occultism's influence on Hitler. His subsequent rejection of Free Masons and esoteric movements, of Theosophy, of Anthrosophy, does not necessarily mean otherwise. Occult circles have long been known as covers for espionage and influence peddling.... The swastika is one of mankind's oldest symbols, and apart from the cross and the circle, probably the most widely distributed. It is shown on pottery fragments from Greece dating back to the eighth century B.C. It was used in ancient Egypt, India and China. The Navaho Indians of North America have a traditional swastika pattern. Arab-Islamic sorcerers used it. In more recent times, it was incorporated in the flags of certain Baltic states.

The idea for the use of the swastika by the Nazis came from a dentist named Dr. Friedrich Krohn who was a member of the secret Germanen order. Krohn produced the design for the actual form in which the Nazis came to use the symbol, that is reversed, spinning in an anti-clockwise direction. As a solar symbol, the swastika is properly thought of as spinning, and the Buddhists have always believed the symbol attracted luck.

The Sanskrit word svastika means good fortune and well being. According to Cabbalistic lore and occult theory, chaotic force can be evoked by reversing the symbol.

Last thing, there is much evidence that all factions in play were controlled by the same powers. The different factions were just told different lies and promised different rewards.

[orage]

Now where did the good Dr. Schlieman find the lost city of Troy? In Illium, named after Illius. Illuminati, Illustrious, see the phonetic word origins?

Now what did the good Dr. find in the ruins?

The following is from the book “Swastika the earliest known symbol and its migrations” by Thomas Wilson and published in 1894 (at page 771) -

“Dr. Schliemann found many specimens of Swastika in his excavations at the site of ancient Troy on the hill of Hissarlik. They were mostly on spindle whorls, and will be described in due course. He appealed to Prof. Max Muller for an explanation, who, in reply, wrote an elaborate description, which Dr. Schliemann published in ‘Ilios.’

He commences with a protest against the word Swastika being applied generally to the sign Swastika, because it may prejudice the reader or the public in favor of its Indian origin. He says:

‘I do not like the use of the word svastika outside of India. It is a word of Indian origin and has its history and definite meaning in India. * * * The occurrence of such crosses in different parts of the world may or may not point to a common origin, but if they are once called Svastika the vulgus profanum will at once jump to the conclusion that they all come from India, and it will take some time to weed out such prejudice.’ ”



Troy (Illium): ('Illius') - (Hissarlik - 'Place of Fortresses')



Description - Ilus, the son of Tros founded Troy in 3000 BC, and the name Troy was derived from him.

Immortalised by the writings of Virgil and Homer, the ruins of Troy were first found by Charles McLaren in 1822 (2), and excavated by Dr. Heinrich Schliemann, in 1870. The city of Troy was re-discovered after a lifelong quest which led Dr. Schliemann to the plain of Troad, on the north-west coast of Turkey. Until its discovery, it was considered a fictional city in the 'Illiad', by Homer. The discovery is one of several 'mythological' places that have unearthed in the last two hundred years.

Dr. Schliemann discovered four settlements or cities beneath Illium, one below the other at Hissarlik, of which he determined the third deepest to have been Troy proper, where he found the so called 'Priam treasures'.

[raphael]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Symbols/NAVAJOGreatSymbolBikehHozho-1.jpg

Sa’ah Naaghái Boy and Bik'eh Hózhó Girl

Sa’ah Naaghái Boy and Bik'eh Hózhó Girl represent the underlying bipolar symmetry
of the universe. Sa'ah Naaghái is the inner form of Bik'eh Hózhó, which is
the outer form of Sa'ah Naaghái. Sa'ah Naaghái is the static dimension of the
universe, while Bik'eh Hózhó is the active dimension. Sa'ah Naaghái is the
thought of the universe, while Bik'eh Hózhó is its speech or voice (Wyman
1970:398). Sa'ah Naaghái is male; Bik'eh Hózhó is female. The dynamic, fertile,
and omnipotent union of these two dimensions of the universe is what produces
hózhó (Witherspoon 1977:16-46).

At this link below I provide more info on why the swastika is being VEILeD by EVIL, an EVIL entity that has been around for AEONs, an evil entity which uses the numb and dumb judeao/christians as IGNORANT foot soldiers to get its meSSage out...
JC wankers need not read this:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=223172#p223172
It will just upset EWE.

amen/mean

OR

namaste/mesatan

EWE decide :p:p

[orage]

http://greyfalcon.us/picturezz/Schwarzesonne.jpg

What do you make of this symbol?

More Thule connections.

[raphael]

http://greyfalcon.us/picturezz/Schwarzesonne.jpg

What do you make of this symbol?

More Thule connections.

forget focusing on thule and the NAZIs....this thread is not really about 'NAZIs'...it is about how important the SWASTIKA is.
If all you do is focus on NAZIs, this thread will just resemble all those other bullshit Hitler/NAZI threads.

try not to forget that. ;)
the story is how tibetan/navajo/hopi cultures all merge...
the story is how swastika cultures get buried/assimilated by crucifix (and star of david) waving judeao/christians...

and how it appears the judeao/christians are living in a world of their own.

The incident is noteworthy as the engagement in military history in which the most Medals of Honor have been awarded in the history of the US Army.[4]

The site has been designated a National Historic Landmark.[5]

Wounded Knee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre
What happened there?
Heroes or butchers?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Woundedknee1891.jpg/800px-Woundedknee1891.jpg

Note it is the same folks (tribe/belief system) that are in fact filling the pits with the bodies of the non-believers in ALL these images I present.
The same folks who traded the 'injun' blankets laced with small-pox germs..
Yup the same folks who invented mustard gas, used bio-chem warfare against the indians...
The same folks who write the history and who write the HIS-story.
The same folks who like to bury swastika cultures under Jesus rhetoric...
The same folks who award medals of honor for mowing down unarmed women (breeders) and children (a culture's future)...
The same folks who sent their first born punks over to Iraq, piloting tanks, killing more innocent women (breeders) and more innocent children (a culture's future) ...who happen to get in the way of a New World Order...

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/mauthausen/MauthausenPhotos/OldPhotos/MassGraveUSHMM.jpghttp://cateof.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ukraine_0128.jpg

Same fucking folks...one minute they are wearing the Crucifix, the next minute they are wearing both, Crucifix and the Swastika, along with the Maltese Cross.

But but, underneath the UNIFORMS and all the various CROSSES put on display on the outside, are the same wankers who were raised as judeao/christians hiding on the inside, behind all the FIBs their masters weave so they can feel good about killing the women (breeders) and children (a culture's future).

starting to see a pattern?

FAULTY BELIEF = judeao/christian bullshit who like to get rid of non-believers.

PERIOD

namaste

[orage]

The gravediggers and killers are no friends of mine.

I was interested if you had seen the hollow earth symbol elsewhere, I just stumbled over the Vril channeling a few days ago. Your Hopi and Navajo drawings tell some of the same stories.

A advanced/god-like being of fair complexion appearing from below and the concept of a hollow earth. The Hopi say their genesis is in the 4 corners region, that they came from the earth. Tibetan and Meso/South American myths of the fair-skinned teaching harmony and peace while performing technological miracles.


http://www.powersource.com/gallery/places/phrock.gif http://www.dawneagle.com/prophecy_rock4.gif

The guy on the left in both drawings, larger, coming from below. The Flying Saucer is very peculiar.

http://battleofearth.wordpress.com/2009/05/02/vril-power-and-the-vril-gesellschaft/

An interesting viewpoint, if you can substitute Jesus/Satan with your figure of choice. While I don't agree with the path they took, there's some knowledge that's interesting. Would Gandhi have been effective in Europe? The danger is to become what you fight.

The Thule people knew about the Jewish banking systems, i.e., Rothschild and allies, and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and felt it was their task to fight the Jewish people, but especially their banking and lodge system, in accordance with the Revelation of Sahaja, and to erect the realm of light upon Earth.

Author’s Comment:

As you can see, these people were just as incapable to remedy the cause as their Lord Jesus had told them how – to change the world with love for creation, for oneself and for the neighbor (and that neighbor can also be of another race or religion). But they had relinquished self-responsibility and gave it to a GUILTY one, a SATAN. Their hatred made them so blind that they never realized that they used the same weapons as the purportedly satanic God Jahveh they wanted to fight. They should have known though that one cannot achieve peace by war.

[raphael]

I recently purchased a book, Celestial Ship of the North, from the same publishers Kessinger. It had the 13th chapter missing. Fortunately with a quick search you can find the book in pdf with the chapter included but its still not the same as it lacks illustrations. Their website isn't much useful either for contacting them.

I ordered the book...it came with chapter 13.
thanks...
just what I needed.

namaste

[grandsecretary]

http://greyfalcon.us/picturezz/Schwarzesonne.jpg

What do you make of this symbol?

More Thule connections.

Far too big for a forum!!!

[tinyint]

Far too big for a forum!!!

The pic or the Black Sun?

Here is a smaller one for you :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Schwarze-sonne--black-sun--sonnenrad.png/120px-Schwarze-sonne--black-sun--sonnenrad.png

The symbol of the black sun or sun wheel consists of 12 mirrored victory runes.

http://www.abload.de/img/wewelsburg2aipks.jpg
Wewelsburg... training center of SS(again 2 victory runes)


http://www.swastika-info.com/images/clarification/Swastika-koelnerdom-tibetischer-gebetsteppich.jpg

Current and last pope did prayers on that carpet in the Cathedral of Cologne, John Paul II and Benedict XVI. The carpet was donated in 1860 by Samy Lee.

another sun wheel...
http://www.swastika-info.com/images/amerika/mexiko/atzteken/sonnenrad-kalender.jpg

[grandsecretary]

It's not for me, I am just trying to keep up to date with this thread. It makes life difficult for everyone if we post pictures that are so large that we end up scrolling a marathon rather than a sprint. The moderators have already made this request previously and I agree with them.

That was what I meant. Many thanks to all.

[tinyint]

It's not for me, I am just trying to keep up to date with this thread. It makes life difficult for everyone if we post pictures that are so large that we end up scrolling a marathon rather than a sprint. The moderators have already made this request previously and I agree with them.

That was what I meant. Many thanks to all.

Agreed.

If Orage could just replace the img-tag with media-tag, all were to be fine :)

[orage]

Sorry, I can't edit the posts anymore. is there a size tag on this board, to prevent this from happening again? Just PM me with tips, so we can get back to the original topic :D

[raphael]

Sorry, I can't edit the posts anymore. is there a size tag on this board, to prevent this from happening again? Just PM me with tips, so we can get back to the original topic :D

find an image you like on the internet ... right click the image, choose properties, chose an image between 200-600 pixels, chose one between 400-600 pixels if it has text you want us sheeple to read) ...cut and paste url info into your posting.

and folks can get back to scrolling up or down along the y axis.
zigzag scrolling having to use both x and y axis seems annoying. ;)

namaste

[raphael]

The pic or the Black Sun?

Here is a smaller one for you :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Schwarze-sonne--black-sun--sonnenrad.png/120px-Schwarze-sonne--black-sun--sonnenrad.png

The symbol of the black sun or sun wheel consists of 12 mirrored victory runes.

http://www.abload.de/img/wewelsburg2aipks.jpg
Wewelsburg... training center of SS(again 2 victory runes)

http://www.swastika-info.com/images/clarification/Swastika-koelnerdom-tibetischer-gebetsteppich.jpg

Current and last pope did prayers on that carpet in the Cathedral of Cologne, John Paul II and Benedict XVI. The carpet was donated in 1860 by Samy Lee.

another sun wheel...
http://www.swastika-info.com/images/amerika/mexiko/atzteken/sonnenrad-kalender.jpg

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZT5DR56QL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

My response recently to kguk, regarding the missing Chapter XIII of this book, Celestial Ship of the North, helps us understand the origins of the 'SS'.
I immediately was interested in the book based on title alone.
Because the NORTH is often depicted as 'unique' of the 4 directions, and often the direction from which 'change' is initiated.

Is Egypt the source of the SS? :eek:
Is it not St. Peter or St. Paul, who can also be referred to as the SS?
No, it predates the entire Roman Catholic Holy Spirit SS and the Nazi SS.
But they are of course connected.

There is another link between Egypt and Rome and the 'S' I need to add.
Yes, I need to add another S to the SS formula.
A trinity of SSS that I believe to represent Great! Great! Great!

S = Sanctus
SS = Spiritus Sanctus aka Holy Spirit
SSS = Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus!

Yes I am suggesting that Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus! is a reference to name given to 'Thrice Greastest' Hermes Trismegistus and the exclamation ... Great! Great! Great!

And the concept of the thrice greatest can be traced back to Thoth?
But the best part is that the analogies do not end with Thoth. ;)
What does SSS mean in physics/math/music is the direction we want to go... :D
My intuitive journey has again been confirmed, acknowledged by this book.
I have built myself an ARK using ARKetypes, that is clear to me. ;)

I recently purchased a book, Celestial Ship of the North, from the same publishers Kessinger. It had the 13th chapter missing. Fortunately with a quick search you can find the book in pdf with the chapter included but its still not the same as it lacks illustrations. Their website isn't much useful either for contacting them.

I ordered the book...it came with chapter 13.
thanks...
just what I needed.

Chapter XIII helps us connect Pope Gregory XIII to the Holy Spirit known also as the SS to a formula for geometric pi 22/7, that the Egyptians used.

And if you think XIII is not a celestial clue...EWE are not tuning in folks...
And I can prove it.
The elevator you are in, Einstein's elevator, the one he took the 20th century on a tour of the universe in, did not even stop at the XIII floor.
Somehow he managed to get his elevator to bend around the 13th floor...
I got off at the XIII floor.

Do you know what I found on the 13th floor?
shhh

2bee continued.

namaste

p.s.
here is an online pdf. file of The Celestial Ship of the North
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cosmic_tree/Straiton.pdf

do yourself a favor and have a peek...at the REAL origins of the SS.
I knew it..., I should say, I felt it all along.
now I have some great evidence and a new direction....

[decim]

Thanks for the link.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZT5DR56QL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

My response recently to kguk, regarding the missing Chapter XIII of this book, Celestial Ship of the North, helps us understand the origins of the 'SS'.
I immediately was interested in the book based on title alone.
Because the NORTH is often depicted as 'unique' of the 4 directions, and often the direction from which 'change' is initiated.

Is Egypt the source of the SS? :eek:
Is it not St. Peter or St. Paul, who can also be referred to as the SS?
No, it predates the entire Roman Catholic Holy Spirit SS and the Nazi SS.
But they are of course connected.

There is another link between Egypt and Rome and the 'S' I need to add.
Yes, I need to add another S to the SS formula.
A trinity of SSS that I believe to represent Great! Great! Great!

S = Sanctus
SS = Spiritus Sanctus aka Holy Spirit
SSS = Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus!

Yes I am suggesting that Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus! is a reference to name given to 'Thrice Greastest' Hermes Trismegistus and the exclamation ... Great! Great! Great!

And the concept of the thrice greatest can be traced back to Thoth?
But the best part is that the analogies do not end with Thoth. ;)
What does SSS mean in physics/math/music is the direction we want to go... :D
My intuitive journey has again been confirmed, acknowledged by this book.
I have built myself an ARK using ARKetypes, that is clear to me. ;)



I ordered the book...it came with chapter 13.
thanks...
just what I needed.

Chapter XIII helps us connect Pope Gregory XIII to the Holy Spirit known also as the SS to a formula for geometric pi 22/7, that the Egyptians used.

And if you think XIII is not a celestial clue...EWE are not tuning in folks...
And I can prove it.
The elevator you are in, Einstein's elevator, the one he took the 20th century on a tour of the universe in, did not even stop at the XIII floor.
Somehow he managed to get his elevator to bend around the 13th floor...
I got off at the XIII floor.

Do you know what I found on the 13th floor?
shhh

2bee continued.

namaste

p.s.
here is an online pdf. file of The Celestial Ship of the North
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cosmic_tree/Straiton.pdf

do yourself a favor and have a peek...at the REAL origins of the SS.
I knew it..., I should say, I felt it all along.
now I have some great evidence and a new direction....

[orage]

Well I believe that I have answered your question. I am sure you realise that Judaism, Druidism/Celtic Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism are Lunar religions whilst the Roman or Latin religions (The Catholic Church and The Church of England [Anglicanism]) are Solar.

The Sacred Geometry is therefore, quite different. It helps, therefore, to prove beyond any doubt who are true Free Masons and who are not.

Does the saying The Sun, the Moon & the Stars have it backwards? Or do we need to consider all three, and any cult (Sun, Moon or Stars) demanding solitary fealty is in the way of the truth?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Solvogn.jpg/200px-Solvogn.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Nebra_Scheibe.jpg

Fletcher’s Pawnee informant described the ceremonies of the star cult as, "giving an account of creation, the establishment of family, and the inauguration of rites by which man would be reminded of his dependence on Tirawa, of whom he must ask food." Tirawa refers to a higher power that the Pawnee revered as above all other stars. There is a fundamental message in the star cult ceremonies; the duality in the universe which is similar to that between males and females. The importance and influence of the cult can be seen in the earth lodges that the Pawnee constructed to represent the stars.
Fletcher, Alice C. Star Cult Among the Pawnee-A Preliminary Report. American Anthropologist October-December, 1902 Vol.4(4):730-736.
http://go.owu.edu/~jbkrygie/krygier_html/geog_222/geog_222_lo/geog_222_lo05_gr/pawneestar.gifhttp://www.megaliths.net/tanumdecipheredbyandiskaulinsasplanisphereofsky.pn g Tanum Star map

And as a gift, the Maltese Cross as seen on Aztec map of the world, four regions, associated deities (pre-European contact). Click to enlarge.
http://go.owu.edu/~jbkrygie/krygier_html/geog_222/geog_222_lo/geog_222_lo05_gr/aztec.jpg

[orage]

here is an online pdf. file of The Celestial Ship of the North
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cosmic_tree/Straiton.pdf

do yourself a favor and have a peek...at the REAL origins of the SS.
I knew it..., I should say, I felt it all along.
now I have some great evidence and a new direction....

Serpent? The Letter S Soul. Spirit. Sound. Sonic waves. Is the letterS=W?
http://www.deafdc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ouroboros.jpghttp://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/a/a0/Infinity_symbol.jpg
The primordial Serpent seen in the heavens, was composed
of myriads and myriads of small stars forming a “luminous Zone,”
called the Astral Light. Moreover the path of the Sun through the
Sidereal Year was always allegorically called a Serpent. The
Serpent was a symbol of Divine Wisdom and was a synonym for
initiation into the secret mysteries of the Magi, the Astrologers.
The Gnostics of the first three centuries were philosophers
and formulators of the Wisdom or Gnosis which they taught. 1
The Gnosis was a spiritual and sacred knowledge obtained only
through initiation into spiritual mysteries. The Gnostics of the
Second Century found in their Serapis (Serpent) an accepted
type of Christ to whom the latter day Christians gave the name
of Messiah. Serapis was represented as a Serpent, just as Jesus
was later. All ancient religions were symbolized by a Serpent. In
Egypt the resurrection of Nature was represented by a Serpent
having human legs. A Serpent on two legs, also meant a high
Initiate. It is commanded in the “Book of the Dead” that Chap.
clviii should be read in the presence of a Serpent on two legs.
The Serpent was the emblem of Christ, and as the good genius,
the Agathodaemon, the Serpent is found engraved on many of
the Gnostic gems.


The early Christians were Serpent worshippers, and among
those called the Naeserians the Serpent was known as the second
person of the cosmical and astronomical Trinity, symbolized by
the constellation of the Dragon, which celestially was said always
to have within it that which was sacred and divine. The true
objective of this worship was undoubtedly more obvious at the
time when the constellation Draco and the other most northern
constellations were more universally noticed and studied.
It can readily be seen why the Serpent, as the Constellation
Draco, winding itself around, as if guarding the Pole of Heaven,
or the Garden of Eden, was called the “keeper of supernatural
treasures of knowledge and wisdom,” and that he might be a
truer transmitter of the Light than an anthropomorphic god. In
some countries the people ate certain parts of the Serpent and


No wonder the serpent got such a bad rep in the later Bible.

[tinyint]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Sowilo.png/110px-Sowilo.png


SIG Rune

Rune of salvation and victory - lightning - divine spirit rays - release - success. Character - courage - magical powers - the soul - life - Clarification - solution - liberation; her male phallus stands for principle, will and strength to her feminine principle for water waves, giving and receiving, preserving and ejection opening and tie.

She is a Schwertrune and has no obligation. -> Win at any cost! Used to achieve the thoughts and desires are, knowledge, understanding and enlightenment - the victory over the ego lower. "The creative spirit must prevail".

Positive victory and success in the struggle and competition leads to the success of all enterprises, increases the power of the mind of the user, is the knowledge and understanding. It protects against worry, hatred and foes

Number 11 (corresponds with UR - 1 +1 = 2 or 2 = 2), Rune-Mal: 8.8.-30.8., Mars, yellow, blue, pine, gold, Zithrin, horse, Sunday, fire.

[raphael]

Does the saying The Sun, the Moon & the Stars have it backwards? Or do we need to consider all three, and any cult (Sun, Moon or Stars) demanding solitary fealty is in the way of the truth?



when you really really really get into studying the symbolism you realize the following...as you pointed out...there is more to consider than just the SUN and the MOON.

the first human thoughts were embedded into a STELLAR mythology that revolved around the POLE stars....the mythology revolved around the POLE stars because it appeared to be the center that did not move.

the second evolution was indeed the LUNAR cults.
So the symbolism from this epoch will show both STELLAR and LUNAR symbolism.

the third evolution was in worshiping the MOON and the SUN.
Each evolution assimilating the symbolism before it, and adding some new thoughts to the archetypal symbolism.

the fourth evolution has been to a western consciousness that supports primarily a worldview that concerns itself with a 'SOLAR' future.
We seem to worship ALL forms of FIRE.
FIRE was the gift of Prometheus and the seed of ALL forms of technology to follow.

So what might be the fifth evolution I ponder?
We do we go from here?
From STELLAR to a LUNAR to a LUNAR/SOLAR to a SOLAR mythology, followed by ...
What is left to worship? ;)

Electricity and Magnetism and Gravity are still real mysteries....
But the mysteries can all be addressed using a plasma/aether cosmology model and a TRINITY of serpents?

3 threads of fate...NORNS are an example.
3 serpentine strings that vibrate with certain frequencies.
(what kind of string theory ignores the universal concert taking place, the SOUND and the LIGHT show?)
A modern string theory was really a serpentine one to the ancients....

A THRICE GREATEST theory...was the meSSage that can be found scattered about the world.

How GREAT! GREAT! GREAT! attributed to THOTH, became the Roman Catholic/Latin equivalent ...
SANCTUS! SANCTUS! SANCTUS!

But what happened to the fourth 'S'?
A 4th 'wave' or 'ingredient' that I sense plays a role?
Maybe as Hopi prophecy suggests we must wait for the GREAT White Brother, the last GREAT White Hope to return with the missing corner piece to their prophecy tablet to make the world GREAT and GOLDEN once more...

Ever hear of the Hopi prophecy regarding the Pahana?
Maybe Icke thinks he sees the 4th SERPENT...or maybe I AM the one, NEO?
Serpentine illusions helps explain the connections between ayahuasca and the DMT that our pineal gland produces, rain forest shamans and urban shamans like Icke, who bring forth their visions and meSSages from the 'other side'.

ICKE is ignorant about how science XYZ connects to all of the above.
That is his main weakness.

The ROD or STAFF that became a snake could even be the Spear of Destiny that pierced the side of Christ.
Is St. Longinus a ROD, a serpent, the Spear of Destiny OR the LONGITUDINAL N/S axis?
The phallus, the obelisk, the shaft humanity gets fucked with is the spear of destiny?

Do you think the 'fictitious phone exchange 555 that Holy-wood' uses all the time in film is a coincidence?
It is not a coincidence to the way your BRAIN takes in info.
And remember, to survive as carbon life forms, we MUST take from our environment to survive.

SSS = 555 = go back to shleep ZZZ, ewe can use room 222.

NoNoNo you say to S = Z = 2 = 5 = N?

conclusion:
the modern quantum wankers today are investigating something the ancients were well aware of...VORTEX energy and magnetism...just different languages of expression of the same TRUTH.

We live in an xyz world and the rotations and reflections of NO can be twisted in an illusion called OZ.

All the flock needs are some wizards, witches and a hurricane with vortex energy that swirls and twirls, able to lift you UP to the heavens to help begin the illusion.

http://media.npr.org/news/images/2008/apr/17/popeshoes200.jpg?t=1248646891

Does Dorothy know how to get home?
The solution to humanities woes are in our ruby red slippers folks.
Why is the Pope wearing Dorothy's Ruby Red slippers?
.....statement of his desire to demonstrate continuity with the symbols and history of the church.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89732516

namaste

p.s.
I am probably the only researcher on the internet currently investigating the following associations regarding SSS.
A simple search using google would confirm such a declaration or claim by mi.

the Pahana has a meSSage for humanity?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/swastika-and-hopi-prophecy-re-the-pahana-a-k-a-great-white-brother/

[orage]

Electricity and Magnetism and Gravity are still real mysteries....
Maybe they're not mysteries anymore... just locked away, last century.

3 threads of fate...NORNS are an example.
3 serpentine strings that vibrate with certain frequencies.
(what kind of string theory ignores the universal concert taking place, the SOUND and the LIGHT show?)
A great question.

4 serpents S=W=Z=M

Sight. Sound. Vision. Vortex. Waves. Zzzleep. Music/harmonics. Magnetism. Math. What else? Masons as the keepers of the knowledge?

Here's a symbol that combines serpents, helix, staff, wings of Horus and an angel.
http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/uploaded_images/MedicalSymbol-730741-782411.jpg

[raphael]

Maybe they're not mysteries anymore... just locked away, last century.

A great question.

4 serpents S=W=Z=M

Sight. Sound. Vision. Vortex. Waves. Zzzleep. Music/harmonics. Magnetism. What else? Masons as the keepers of the knowledge?

getting closer, getting warmer...we know or SuSpect that the CELESTIAL ship is associated with the NORTH.
+
NOW take a simple plain square cross.
On this cross I want you to place Sorth and Nouth.
And now place Eest and Wast on the same map.

Did that exercise teach you anything?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ca/Johann_Froben%27s_printer%27s_symbol.jpeg/180px-Johann_Froben%27s_printer%27s_symbol.jpeg

Here is another puzzle now that you are armed with SSS serpentine wisdom...
...how does satan = cadeusus?

http://charlottepatera.com/Images/Combination%20Molas/cadeusus.gifhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A0glA0j5s37czM%3Ahttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/KunaYalaFlag.svg/750px-KunaYalaFlag.svg.png

You might need to learn about molas and the Kuna YAla tribe of Panama who have a swastika on their flag.
http://charlottepatera.com/html/molascomb.html

The Kuna revolution began on February 25, 1925 when an armed group attacked the Panamanian police stationed on the islands of Tupile and Ukupseni. The police had been involved in the violent suppression of Kuna cultural practices and had been abusing the populations of various communities. The revolution was led by Nele Kantule.

Nele Kantule Iguibilikinya was a famous chief and medicine man of the Kuna indigenous tribe of Panama and Colombia.
The flag of Kuna Yala was adopted in 1925, and is based on a swastika design, an ancient symbol in Kuna culture.
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Kuna_Yala


25 and 52 are part of the NUMERICAL design, evidence left by the geometer creator alchemist, which forms a huge part of the swastika serpentine frequency that I am tuning into.

25 and 52 AFTER reflections and rotations become the SS Holy Spirit:
http://www.religionforums.org/thread-1651.html
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=16346

And YA = Ja and maybe Jah?

Ja...ja...ja vay or some might utter while at the vailing vall, YAHVeH

Because if I was a meSSenger of meSSages, which were composed of ORAL traditions, composed of song and dance which included SOUNDs, what kind of meSSages would Hermes, Mercury, and Thoth all leave behind.
SongS of Solomon?
The hymns of the Rig Vedas?

YA is a SOUND that just might get around the world...
So what does a YA Buddhist/Chinese symbol look like?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/Ya12Ornamentspg2-1.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/GOODLUCKsymbols-1.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/GOODLUCKsymbolspg2-1.jpg

YA = fig. 513 HOLY AX and the same 'characters' are found in fig. 525 LONGEVITY too.
The characters that resemble the numerals 5 and 2.
POLARITY between BLUE and RED is the name of the game in the place called heaven and hell that meet in the middle plane...the middle EARTH.
Where the SKY touches the EARTH...
Don't folks know this is a battle for middle earth?

But most interesting...at the bottom of the LONGEVITY character I see brush strokes that resemble a 5 and a 4.
And that is significant when discussing harmonic crossovers that occur between 5 and 4 >>> at 4.5

I know a fella who has such a theory.
And that fella is not me.
Actually he and mi have had fighting words over the www, when diScuSSing our theories.
And Lui (a musician) who has a musical theory, never did acknowledge that he 'found' me on a forum, that discussed hidden secrets and Freemason symbolism.

And what did the Egyptians, the Freemasons and the Vatican ALL VEIL, that the EAST does NOT?
The SWASTIKA is the answer...show me a serpent 'S' in Egypt and I will show you a 'waveform'.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41B95VAQ5BL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

A Rolling Stone gathers no moSS?
Get yer YA-YAs out?
It is all the same LIGHT and SOUND programming, since the beginning of time.
We humans just love to re-invent the wheel.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:8Xm2cvTJZeHXIM%3Ahttp://zaxmajesty.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/windows_95.pnghttp://content.ytmnd.com/content/1/9/a/19a60799fdaaf6424353189fd08577ad.jpg

The Rolling Stones and Bill Gates wanted to Start Mi UP, again back in 1995? using that subtle, sublime hidden BUTTON called the SWASTIKA?

This will blow you away and continue to help solidify my claim.
Here is yet another puzzle...this one is best.
It is actually part of the Gutenberg Project:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16713/16713-h/16713-h.htm#VARIOUS_GEOMETRICAL_PUZZLES

Go to the link above.
Find puzzle 142.

GEOMETRIC PUZZLE #142 THE SILK PATCHWORK

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16713/16713-h/images/q142.png

The lady members of the Wilkinson family had made a simple patchwork quilt, as a small Christmas present, all composed of square pieces of the same size, as shown in the illustration. It only lacked the four corner pieces to make it complete. Somebody pointed out to them that if you unpicked the Greek cross in the middle and then cut the stitches along the dark joins, the four pieces all of the same size and shape would fit together and form a square. This the reader knows, from the solution in Fig. 39, is quite easily done. But George Wilkinson suddenly suggested to them this poser. He said, "Instead of picking out the cross entire, and forming the square from four equal pieces, can you cut out a square entire and four equal pieces that will form a perfect Greek cross?" The puzzle is, of course, now quite easy.

And the solution to this puzzle, suggests Grandma is a NAZI who uses a PC and Windows?
Now compare the solution to the quilting puzzle below with the WINDOWs images above...can you find it?

the solution to the puzzle...
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16713/16713-h/images/a142.png

namaste

[orage]

Have to finally read up on Marc Ronin tomorrow.

This popped into my head while reading your other bread crumbs:

Hexeneinmaleins
„Du mußt versteh’n!
Aus Eins mach Zehn,
Und Zwei laß geh’n,
Und Drei mach gleich,
So bist Du reich.
Verlier die Vier!
Aus Fünf und Sechs,
So sagt die Hex’,
Mach Sieben und Acht,
So ist's vollbracht:
Und Neun ist Eins,
Und Zehn ist keins.
Das ist das Hexen-Einmaleins!“

From Faust, written by Geheimrat Goethe
http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~haase/hexenlsg.html

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Goseck-2.jpghttp://www.himmelsscheibe-online.de/pics/himmelsscheibeeng.jpg
Pyramid? First solar observatory in Saxony, ~4,900 BC. The yellow lines represent the direction the Sun rises and sets at the winter solstice, while the vertical line shows the astronomical meridian

In a geographical context, the circle at Goseck is no further than 20 kilometres (12,5 miles) from the site where the Nebra sky disk was found. As the circle and the sky disk do not date from the same era, a link between them has been speculated about, but remains entirely unproven up to this point.

Goseck ring is one of the best preserved and extensively investigated of the many similar structures built at around the same time. Its preservation and investigation have led to the belief that it was a solar observatory, although some archaeologists question this. In the first opening of the site, a state archaeologist Harald Meller called it a milestone in archaeological research.

Traces of the original configuration reveal that the Goseck ring consisted of four concentric circles, a mound, a ditch, and two wooden palisades. The palisades had three sets of gates facing southeast, southwest, and north. At the winter solstice, observers at the center would have seen the sun rise and set through the southeast and southwest gates. Potsherds at the site suggests that the observatory was built ca. 4900 BCE because they have linear designs compared to standard chronologies of pottery styles.

The cultural nexus that produced the circle is called the Stroke-Ornamented Pottery Culture. Archaeologists generally agree that Goseck circle was used for astronomical observation. Together with calendar calculations, it allowed coordinating an easily judged lunar calendar with the more demanding measurements of a solar calendar, embodied in a spiritual religious context. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goseck_circle

[orage]

Counter Kadosh Spam.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Whriling_dervishes%2C_Rumi_Fest_2007.jpg/520px-Whriling_dervishes%2C_Rumi_Fest_2007.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurdjieff_movements
The famous "movements," often done to music Gurdjieff had composed himself, were dances based on those Gurdjieff had observed and participated in, notably in the Sarmoung monastery and in other ancient traditions monasteries. Gurdjieff taught that the movements were not merely calisthenics, exercises in concentration, and displays of bodily coordination and aesthetic sensibility: on the contrary, in the movements was embedded real, concrete knowledge, passed from generation to generation of initiates - each posture and gesture representing some cosmic truth that the informed observer could read like a book.

[tinyint]

Anybody read J.R.R.Tolkien's "Simarillion"? ;)


Akallabêth
Main article: Akallabêth

Akallabêth ("The Downfallen"[5]) comprises about thirty pages, and recounts the rise and fall of the island kingdom of Númenor, inhabited by the Dúnedain. After the defeat of Melkor, the Valar gave the island to the three loyal houses of Men who had aided the Elves in the war against him. Through the favour with the Valar, the Dúnedain were granted wisdom and power and life more enduring than any other of mortal race had possessed, making them comparable to the High-Elves of Aman. Indeed, the isle of Númenor lay closer to Aman than to Middle-earth. But their power lay in their bliss and their acceptance of mortality. The fall of Númenor came about in large measure through the influence of the evil Maia Sauron (formerly a chief servant of Melkor), who arose during the Second Age and tried to conquer Middle-earth.

The Númenóreans moved against Sauron, who saw that he could not defeat them with force and allowed himself to be taken as a prisoner to Númenor. There he quickly enthralled the king, Ar-Pharazôn, urging him to seek out the immortality that the Valar had apparently denied him, thus nurturing the seeds of envy that the Númenóreans had begun to hold against the Elves of the West and the Valar. So it was that all the knowledge and power of Númenor was turned towards seeking an avoidance of death; but this only weakened them and sped the gradual waning of the lifespans to something more similar to that of other Men. Sauron urged them to wage war against the Valar themselves to win immortality, and to worship his old master Melkor, whom he said could grant them their wish. Ar-Pharazôn created a fleet and sailed against Aman. The Valar and Elves of Aman, in desperation called on Ilúvatar for help, for they feared that even they could not withstand the might of Númenor. When Ar-Pharazôn landed Ilúvatar destroyed his fleet and drowned Númenor itself in punishment for the rebellion against the rightful rule of the Valar. Ilúvatar created a great wave, such as had never before been seen, which utterly destroyed and submerged the isle of Númenor, killing all but those Dúnedain who had already sailed east, and changing the shape of all the lands of Middle-earth.

Sauron, however, being an immortal Maia, escaped and returned to Middle-earth. Some Númenóreans who had remained loyal to the Valar were spared and were washed up on the shores of Middle-earth, where they founded the kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor. Among these survivors were Elendil their leader, and his two sons Isildur and Anárion. Elendil became lord of the northern kingdom of Arnor. Isildur, who would cut the Ring of Power from Sauron's hand, and his brother Anárion became lords of Gondor. Their power was greatly diminished from that of Númenor, "yet very great it seemed to the wild men of Middle-earth".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Silmarillion#Synopsis

or just read the revealing book, the reoccurring theme of light, sound and creation :)

[raphael]

Anybody read J.R.R.Tolkien's "Simarillion"? ;)

or just read the revealing book, the reoccurring theme of light, sound and creation :)

I appreciate the input...but Tolkien would probably be familiar with books similar to this one...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058564822&postcount=156

I highly recommend it.

namaste

[raphael]

The famous "movements," often done to music Gurdjieff had composed himself, were dances based on those Gurdjieff had observed and participated in, notably in the Sarmoung monastery and in other ancient traditions monasteries. Gurdjieff taught that the movements were not merely calisthenics, exercises in concentration, and displays of bodily coordination and aesthetic sensibility: on the contrary, in the movements was embedded real, concrete knowledge, passed from generation to generation of initiates - each posture and gesture representing some cosmic truth that the informed observer could read like a book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurdjieff_movements

so how does Gurdjieff connect to the number 9 and the Rodin Coil and the HOLY SPIRIT and free accessible energy?

therein lies the deeper meaning of sufi swirls, twirls, whirls and whorls.

what is a whorl?
how many were found in Troy?

namaste

[tinyint]

I appreciate the input...but Tolkien would probably be familiar with books similar to this one...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058564822&postcount=156

I highly recommend it.

namaste

I read through the book 2 days ago, quite interesting.

When I have finished "the bell" I'll have a close read.

I thought, tolkien would complement with this a bit, since the creation reads ery interesting of 'angels' playing in concert with harps, and one 'angel' did want to create his own symphony :)

[raphael]

I read through the book 2 days ago, quite interesting.

When I have finished "the bell" I'll have a close read.

I thought, tolkien would complement with this a bit, since the creation reads ery interesting of 'angels' playing in concert with harps, and one 'angel' did want to create his own symphony :)

Sound/Light analogies are always encouraged. ;)

Hermes slay the Lo Shu tortoise and made a Lyre out of its shell...using its guts to make the strings?

Sounds like a paradigm shift...

namaste

[raphael]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Goseck-2.jpg
Pyramid? First solar observatory in Saxony, ~4,900 BC. The yellow lines represent the direction the Sun rises and sets at the winter solstice, while the vertical line shows the astronomical meridian

anytime anything pops into your head...

do a search using google

1/ the thought that popped into your head was goseck.
2/ just add the words kachina swastika to all your thoughts...

3/do a search...but search the images NOT the articles... ;)

And then follow the images to the articles. ;)
That is how I often find my own threads on various forums...

'goseck kachina swastika'
good reading here re: goseck
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/sound-solves-the-waveparticle-duality-paradox/

kachina is my wordpress name...
try the same thing with

'DNA swastika kachina'

'swastika kachina'

'sound swastika kachina'
etc...

namaste

Raphael

[tinyint]

Sound/Light analogies are always encouraged. ;)

Hermes slay the Lo Shu tortoise and made a Lyre out of its shell...using its guts to make the strings?

Sounds like a paradigm shift...

namaste

Reminds me of the 'galactic federation of light' who claim, depending on the branch, that humans originate in the lyra star system.
Another reference to sound and creation, coincidence?

[raphael]

Reminds me of the 'galactic federation of light' who claim, depending on the branch, that humans originate in the lyra star system.
Another reference to sound and creation, coincidence?

galactic federation of light?

What does NCC mean to you?

namaste

[tinyint]

galactic federation of light?

What does NCC mean to you?

namaste

http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/nl/images/5/56/USS_Enterprise_NCC_1701.jpg

instantly comes to my mind :)

Concerning so called federation, here some links for you :)

http://www.luisprada.com/

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/esp_lemuria_8.htm

http://www.niburu.nl/index.php?articleID=18477

http://www.paoweb.com/gfmember.htm

http://www.sangeetahanda.com/galactic.html

Still digging for the best of the links... will update, if found ;)

Edit: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/galacticfederation.html

I find it interesting, but a bit suspect as well

Edit2: (N)CC--Cyrillic (I/H)SS

edit3: http://www.brainyhistory.com/years/1701.html

[raphael]

instantly comes to my mind :)

Concerning so called federation, here some links for you :)



I thought it might.
But I am not interested in space junk dude.
And I certainly hope this thread does not turn into a Nibiru zone.
Folks have Nibiru all wrong.
Here is what I think of Nibiru.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/planet-x-nibiru-tarot-card-x-crossing-over/

Sorry but I feel Nibiru...aliens...UFOs...Moon Landings...jeSuS walking on WATER and returning...all form part of the make-me-and-ewe-believe stories, which are taken far too LITERALLY, with no basis in fact.

Would it interest you to know that the real fella who figured out we were surrounded by energetic belts was NOT James Van Allen.
Nope it was not...Dr. Van Allen just became the willing Lying YES man and spokesperson for ...

N ever
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S traight
A nswer

While Van Allen was shooting his mouth off to the preSS and the seegullible Disneyfied public....NCC was working on secret projects of the highest magnitude.
NCC was the real fella who not only uncovered those energetic belts BUT he also would go on to supply the idea for CERN.
CERN being ALL based on his ideas regarding strong focusing principles, and this inventor had the initials NCC.

And this mystery man's name is as messianic as they come.
St. Nick Emperor Constantine Christ
No wonder they kept him behind closed doors, under wraps, out of the limelight...he was a superstar.
>>> http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=117470#p117470

http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/new/Christofilos-Dateien/image001.jpg

NCC = Nicholas Constantine Christofilos ... died the same year that Apollo stopped flying past the Van Allen belts...in 1972.

Without St. Nick it seems the sleigh is grounded on earth...we can not get back to the Moon...

"Space the final frontier...these are the voyages of NCC?"

Duh
Star Trek is just another soundtrack they feed the sheeple. ;)
One of the first projects Werner Von Braun worked on was?
Working with Walt Disney, making cartoons for the loons about landing a man on the lune.

Yes it is EASIER and CHEAPER to pretend to go to the MOON than actually go.
The programming has been in place for AEONs.

namaste

[orage]

I appreciate the input...but Tolkien would probably be familiar with books similar to this one...
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058564822&postcount=156

I highly recommend it.

namaste
Quite the connections in one

Astrology and astronomy, esoteric and exoteric knowledge of the heavenly bodies or entities, have lain at the generating
heart of every great religion that has waxed and waned upon earth in accordance with cyclic celestial law.

And amongst these the Mighty Ruler, “Ship of the North,” was ever pre-eminent in its primal energising.
The relation between the heavens and earth has been the same fundamentally in all ages. Out of knowledge of this ancient bond has been born the only true religion or “binding back” to causation.
The Great Bear, the Ship of the North
http://www.swastika-info.com/images/kosmos/sternenkonstelation1--kl1.gifhttp://www.swastika-info.com/images/kosmos/sternenkonstelation2--kl1.gif
The constellation of the Great Bear forms one arm of a swastika, seen every six hours, you get a whole swastika in one day.

The constellation of the Great Bear 4.000 years ago

The four stations (an interstice of 6 hours, in the daily revolution of the Lesser and the Great Bear 4000 years ago).

-·- = Orbital of the present day Polarstars.
-· = Connectionlines of constellations that belong together.

The constellation of the Great Bear in the present day

The same four stations in the present day (an interstice of 6 hours, in the daily revolution of the Lesser and the Great Bear).

-· = Connectionlines of constellations that belong together-- http://swastika-info.com/en/cosmos/cosmos/1057324500.html

One of the few star groups mentioned in the Bible (Job 9:9; 38:32; Amos 5:8—Orion and the Pleiades being others), Ursa Major was also pictured as a bear by the Jewish peoples. ("The Bear" was translated as "Arcturus" in the Vulgate and it persisted in the KJV)
The Iroquois Native Americans interpreted Alioth, Mizar, and Alkaid as three hunters pursuing the Great Bear. According to one version of their myth, the first hunter (Alioth) is carrying a bow and arrow to strike down the bear. The second hunter (Mizar) carries a large pot — the star Alcor — on his shoulder in which to cook the bear while the third hunter (Alkaid) hauls a pile of firewood to light a fire beneath the pot.
Ursa Major is known as Saptarshi Mandal in India, each of the stars representing one of the Saptarshis or Seven Sages viz. Bhrigu, Atri, Angirasa, Vasishta, Pulastya, Pulalaha and Kratu. The fact that the two front stars of the constellations point to the pole star known as Dhruva in India is explained as the boon given to the boy sage Dhruva by Lord Vishnu.

“This Bear that turns round about its own self; and carries the whole World with her, who possessed and made such an Instrument.
“Who hath set the Bounds of the Sea? Who hath established the Earth? For there is somebody, O Tat, that is the Maker and Lord of these things.
“For it is impossible, O Son, that either place, or number, or measure, should be observed without a Maker.
“For no order can be made by disorder or disproportion.” Hermes Trismegistus.

Also contains the pinwheel, another Swastika
The Pinwheel Galaxy (also known as Messier 101 or NGC 5457) is a face-on spiral galaxy about 27 million light-years away in the constellation Ursa Major.
http://Zo-d.com/blog/archives/images/pinwheel-galaxy.jpg

and the Owl, Hegelian, Minerva
The bright planetary nebula Owl Nebula (M97), named for its appearance, can be found along the bottom of the bowl of the Big Dipper.
http://www.ricksastro.com/Gallery/05_04_02_m97_owl.jpg

"When philosophy paints its gray on gray, then has a form of life grown old, and with gray on gray it cannot be rejuvenated, but only known; the Owl of Minerva first takes flight with twilight closing in."

-G. W. F. Hegel, "Preface," Philosophy of Right
http://www.n-g-property.co.uk/images/MinervaAdvertOwl.jpg

Oh, and Arctic & Boreal

[tinyint]

I thought it might.
But I am not interested in space junk dude.
And I certainly hope this thread does not turn into a Nibiru zone.
Folks have Nibiru all wrong.
Here is what I think of Nibiru.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/planet-x-nibiru-tarot-card-x-crossing-over/

Sorry but I feel Nibiru...aliens...UFOs...Moon Landings...jeSuS walking on WATER and returning...all form part of the make-me-and-ewe-believe stories, which are taken far too LITERALLY, with no basis in fact.



As a researcher, one should not categorically dismiss sources. Even if they are weird, but the wealth of information make the picture.
I think, you miss tiny portions of hints buried in massive disinformation and (made up) stories.

I am quite aware, where Nasa got their knowledge and their roots. Just consider their mission names.

I only stood up today being in joking mode, thus the enterprise pic.
Sometimes we need also a bit fun in dry research matter. :)

[tinyint]

http://www.n-g-property.co.uk/images/MinervaAdvertOwl.jpg



Also seal of the bavarian illuminati.

[orage]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Goseck-2.jpg
Pyramid? First solar observatory in Saxony, ~4,900 BC. The yellow lines represent the direction the Sun rises and sets at the winter solstice, while the vertical line shows the astronomical meridian

So what figure do the lines make?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:gERVrAszVzuI4M:http://www.crcbermuda.com/images/signs/peace_5.jpg

and when you flip it, for Summer solstice,
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HlIX9E34bz8qYM:http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%2520Religions/Wicca%2520%26%2520Witchcraft/peace_6.jpg
and add it:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Chi-ro_animat.gif

[tinyint]

So what figure do the lines make?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:gERVrAszVzuI4M:http://www.crcbermuda.com/images/signs/peace_5.jpg

and when you flip it, for Summer solstice,
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HlIX9E34bz8qYM:http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%2520Religions/Wicca%2520%26%2520Witchcraft/peace_6.jpg
and add it:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Chi-ro_animat.gif

Interesting also that Microsoft developed the xps format, supposed to be an xml based universal document format, ChiRhoSigma again.
Might be too 'conspiracy' though.

The Younger Futhark contains such runes as above, m & yr

[raphael]

You are about to read the ONE THREAD on the entire INTERNET that can put the FREEMASON, the OWL, the SWASTIKA and all of the secret society MOLECH crap to rest.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/SwastikasOWLsandtheLotuspg2-2.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/SwastikasOWLsandtheLotuspg1.jpghttp://www.n-g-property.co.uk/images/MinervaAdvertOwl.jpg
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/SwastikasOWLsandtheLotuspg1-2.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/761097245_a025abea4a-1.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Square_compasses.svg/220px-Square_compasses.svg.pnghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/761967922_3a61101e89-1.jpg

The above Owl is outside a Freemason Lodge in Riga, Latvia.
NOTE the bookmark...from a distance I thought it was XX, now I realize XX = compaSS and Square

why the OWL?
Why do those FREEMASON wankers worship Molech?

http://idahoptv.org/dialogue4kids/season5/boprey/images/owlear.gif

It is the secret to an owl's ability to hear due to the 'asymmetrical' placement of its ear openings.
And the owl can twist its head nearly 360 degrees like Linda Blair in the Exorcist.
Asymmetry is a KEY to the OWL symbolism and SOUND ;)

ASYMMETRY is the KEY to unlocking the secrets to the universe.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/
http://idahoptv.org/dialogue4kids/season5/boprey/images/vision.jpg

And the owl's monocular vision is also indicative of a deeper symbolism.

namaste

[orage]

^ Toss on the apron, greet the Great Bear and be done. ^


http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/symbolism/apron_eye.jpg

Das wichtigste Symbol in vielen Organisationen, einschließlich der Freimaurerei, ist der Schurz. Der Schurz, der zu Anfang sehr einfach und schmucklos war, wurde durch die PRIESTERSCHAFT DES MELCHISEDEK gegen 2,200 v.Chr. mit einem weißen Lammfell ausgetauscht und wird heute noch so verwendet. Im alten Aegypten wurden die Götter, die nach alten überlieferungen die »göttlichen Barken« flogen (UFOs), in den ägyptischen Tempelmalereien mit dem Schurz dargestellt. Ebenso trugen später die Priester den Schurz, als Zeichen der Ergebenheit gegenüber den »fliegenden Göttern« und als Zeichen der Autorität, in Vertretung der Götter, gegenüber dem Volke. Schon 3,400 v.Chr. trugen die Mitglieder der »BRUDERSCHAFT DER SCHLANGE« (Entstehungsgeschichte siehe im Anhang(3): Der Schurz, um ihre Unterwürfigkeit den Göttern gegenüber, die mit »fliegenden Rädern« vom Himmel kamen, zu zeigen. Daß der ursprüngliche Gebrauch des Schurzes den heutigen unteren Graden der einzelnen Logen bekannt ist, ist zu bezweifeln(4). http://www.der-trommler.de/staatsfeind/Die_Akte/01G.HTM

The most important symbol in many organizations, including Freemasonry, is the apron. The apron, who was at the beginning of a very simple and unadorned, was established by the priesthood of Melchizedek BC to 2,200. replaced with a white lambskin and is still used it. In ancient Egypt were the gods who flew to the old traditions, the "divine barks' (UFOs), represented in the Egyptian temple paintings of the apron. Similarly, later, the priests wore their aprons as a sign of devotion to the "flying gods" and as a sign of authority, representing the gods, to the people. As early as 3.400 BC. members of the "BROTHERHOOD OF THE SNAKE" (Genesis see appendix (3) wore The skirt, to show their subservience to the gods who came with "flying wheels" of heaven. That today's lower degrees of each lodge know the original use of the apron is doubtful (4). Google translation

[orage]

so how does Gurdjieff connect to the number 9 and the Rodin Coil and the HOLY SPIRIT and free accessible energy?

therein lies the deeper meaning of sufi swirls, twirls, whirls and whorls.

what is a whorl?
how many were found in Troy?
namaste

http://www.integralenneagram.com/Module_II_files/EnneagramSymbolGreysm-filtered.png

The Enneagram symbol can be dated as far back as 2500 BC. The Enneagram symbol points to the Essential in all, the Unity of All. The word derives from the Greek "ennea" meaning 'nine,' and "grama" meaning 'point.' The symbol itself represents the One-ness of all, and has been used as a teaching device over the ages. Each of the 9 points in the symbol is a manifestation of a specific aspect of the Whole, One

The symbol consists of a circle and nine lines and thus is called the Enneagram.
Likewise, a Point Three in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Nine, and a Point Nine in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Six, and a Point Six in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Three

“On several occasions Gurdjieff spoke about symbols and their use, among them the Enneagram, which contains among other things the working of the Law of Three, the Law of Seven, and the Law of Ninefoldness, the keys to which may be found in Beelzebub’s Tales. A great deal of material was put together in the form of ‘A Lecture on Symbolism’. Briefly the idea is that every man has in him a desire for knowledge, differing only in intensity, but the mind of a seeking man often comes up against a blank wall when he asks ‘Why?’—though usually the question is ‘How?’ not ‘Why?’ Man does not realize that under the surface of things is hidden the oneness of all that exists. Man has always sought this oneness in religions and philosophies, and has tried to define it in words—which become dead and empty. Words and ideas change according to time and place, but unity, oneness, is eternal and unchanging. Certain men of real understanding, realizing the inadequacy of words, have, through the ages, constructed symbols for the passing down of real knowledge. One who studies a symbol and arrives at an understanding of it, realizes that he has the symbol in himself. ‘Everything in the world is one and is governed by uniform laws.’ As in the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus: ‘As above, so below.’ The laws of the cosmos may be found in the atom; but the nearest object for man to study is himself. In this respect the formula used by Socrates (though originating in Egypt), ‘Know thyself’, is full of meaning. By studying the laws of the universe man may see the working of the law in himself, and when he seriously struggles with his denying part, his negative part, he will be engaging in the struggle that goes on in the whole of the universe—‘the divine warfare’—and he will be constructing in himself the great symbol which issues from remote times and which we know as Solomon’s Seal. Solomon’s Seal is in every man who looks into himself’.

Gurdjieff in his teaching always tried to make us understand that we must use it in our life-work. The struggle between ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ goes on endlessly. We are full of idle wishes—‘it wishes’—and to these we must oppose our ‘I’ wish. If this is done in the right way, a good result follows.
He gave as an example the following: ‘Suppose I very much need some information, or something, from someone. But this someone has offended me. “It” does not wish humbly to ask, and I shall have to struggle with my self-love and self-pride, which would suffer in the case of refusal. If I persist in my struggle against the denying part and overcome the inertia set up, and go to the person, something in me will be strengthened and my understanding will have deepened. On the other hand, if I do not go, though I shall have saved nervous energy and possible unpleasantness, my understanding will not have increased.’
Later he spoke about initiation. ‘Initiation is usually regarded as an act by which a man who knows transfers to another man knowledge and power, which become the latter’s inalienable possession with no effort on his part. This, of course, can never be. There is only self-initiation, which is acquired by constant effort. It is impossible to give to a man anything that could become his own without effort on his part. One can only show and direct, but not initiate. One can only give to a man just as much as he is ready to receive. Notes of Talks by G. I. Gurdjieff www.Gurdjieff-Bibliography.com


Friday night awaits, time to join friends. :)

[thetonic]

http://www.integralenneagram.com/Module_II_files/EnneagramSymbolGreysm-filtered.png



The symbol consists of a circle and nine lines and thus is called the Enneagram.
Likewise, a Point Three in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Nine, and a Point Nine in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Six, and a Point Six in stress will exhibit the characteristics of a Point Three



Friday night awaits, time to join friends. :)

Orage... Whos words are these which you have quoted? Gurdjieff's?

This thread has been interesting to say the least ! Thanks

[raphael]

Friday night awaits, time to join friends.

enjoying the ride orage?

I like orage...it is OBVIOUS to me, I can see in this lifetime orage wants to become and be associated with a MENSCH... ;)
But what is missing from orage's life?
Hey orage ... wanna buy an 'n'?
Soon I see you being iSSued your orange robe?
Two places to go in an orange robe.
The WEST would send you to Guantanamo or Abu Garib prison and place you into one of their material prisons and dare you to escape, no matter how much you wish, few would ever manage to escape.
The EAST would turn you into a Buddhist monk by placing you into a prison designed of your own mind, your own being...from which the escape is granted to those who wish it...still however few escape.

Why is the symbolism between WEST and EAST so often 'reversed'?
A valuable clue to penetrating soul journeys using the MIRROR?
Clearly this is my adopted journey reflected in my blogs.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=36179&dateline=1258788073

What is a MENSCH?
I would define this noble creature as a human 'being' first and foremost...trying to find that sweet spot balance point, a zero gravity moment in the here and now, in a harmonic balance with the human 'doing'.

hope you are not too hungover today 'seeker of MENSCH'...I want to share this mornings epiphany.
I received LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY a shock :eek: at the dawn of the day.
Those are the best kind...where the LITERAL and FIGURATIVE become ONE.

We all move to the next level...as a result of this ARCHETYPAL bridge I found that has already been constructed...all we need to do is layer over today's current science hypothesis, over this book published in 1928, and learn from the associations, and then cross it...cross-over the bridge whose architecture can be found in the ancient symbols...because they are archetypal, these symbols are bound to eternal concepts.

That is what NIBIRU means btw.
A crossing or to cross-over...again a common theme in ancient cosmologies...rivers etc. divide the living from the dead.

I believe the symbolism has been poorly interpreted by Sitchen.
Though I do love his initials ZS. (25?)
There is NO way he ever read the archetypal bible I found, that I want to share with you...
This book will make you so wise...I promise.
And I am not selling it...though you should buy it.
From a place called keSSinger publishing ... ;)

The truth chills were intense this morning.
I do enjoy these vibrations, the truth chills that some folks call goose-bumps.
But when it is YOU who can summon your goose-bumps at will, you soon come to the conclusion, as I have that truth has a frequency.
For me it has been associated with the color that makes me grin, grun, green = 528 hertz frequency that heals my DNA :D

So who wants to prepare their inner temple, do some inner house cleaning, get ready for the crossing?
This book is required reading.
Sorry.
Whether you buy it (recommended) or find an online version...you MUST have access to it....to ascend to the next level.



http://img.flipkart.com/bk_imgs/136/9780548081136.jpg

Book overview
Symbols Such As The Cross, The Circle, The Serpent, The Triangle, The Tree Of Life, The Swastika, And Other Solar Emblems, Showing The Unity And Simplicity Of Thought Underlying Their Use As Religious Symbols. With More Than 100 Illustrations.

More book information
Title Life Symbols: A Brief Study Into the Origins and Significance of Certain Symbols Which Have Been Found in All Civilizations
Author Elizabeth E. Goldsmith
Edition illustrated
Publisher Kessinger Publishing, 2006
ISBN 1425483798, 9781425483791
Length 528 pages
Subjects Non-Classifiable
Social Science / Folklore & Mythology

purchase book: [http://www.amazon.com/Life-Symbols-Origins-Significance-Civilizations/dp/1425483798


Another KEY = 528 coincidence?
:D hardly...I would expect to see 528 at the end of my daze.

How is the 528 frequency (among others) associated with serpents and a green message?

The message I see, hear and feel quite clear, on the horizon is wisdom and knowledge is NOT just about LIGHT...what has been VEILeD by EVIL, to have us LIVE their way, is SOUND.

No longer.
Knowledge of the SOUND gravity wave should actually help bring us closer together. ;)

namaste

p.s.
What am I going to do today?
I need to find out why the author E.E.G. is giving me such intense truth chills. :rolleyes:
I do suspect it is yet another powerful clue I must/will follow.
A clue that I have RECOVERED, placed there by ? to help/assist/lead me back to ?

As you can see...I still have two big unanswered questions. :D

[orage]

enjoying the ride orage?

I like orage...it is OBVIOUS to me, I can see in this lifetime orage wants to become and be associated with a MENSCH... ;)
But what is missing from orage's life?
Hey orage ... wanna buy an 'n'?
Soon I see you being iSSued your orange robe?
Two places to go in an orange robe.
The WEST would send you to Guantanamo or Abu Garib prison and place you into one of their material prisons and dare you to escape, no matter how much you wish, few would ever manage to escape.
The EAST would turn you into a Buddhist monk by placing you into a prison designed of your own mind, your own being...from which the escape is granted to those who wish it...still however few escape.

Nothing more persistent than the prison of our mind, yes. Realizing oneness with all on all levels is my life journey. Honoring the uniqueness of me is celebrating the whole.

When we say "Love thy neighbor as thyself." what is often the hardest part? Is it not to love thyself? When I say "I love myself" and mean it SOUNDly I can do good for all there is.


What is a MENSCH?
I would define this noble creature as a human 'being' first and foremost...trying to find that sweet spot balance point, a zero gravity moment in the here and now, in a harmonic balance with the human 'doing'.

hope you are not too hungover today 'seeker of MENSCH'...I want to share this mornings epiphany.
I received LITERALLY and FIGURATIVELY a shock :eek: at the dawn of the day.
Those are the best kind...where the LITERAL and FIGURATIVE become ONE.

We all move to the next level...as a result of this ARCHETYPAL bridge I found that has already been constructed...all we need to do is layer over today's current science hypothesis, over this book published in 1928, and learn from the associations, and then cross it...cross-over the bridge whose architecture can be found in the ancient symbols...because they are archetypal, these symbols are bound to eternal concepts.

That is what NIBIRU means btw.
A crossing or to cross-over...again a common theme in ancient cosmologies...rivers etc. divide the living from the dead.
<snip>

So who wants to prepare their inner temple, do some inner house cleaning, get ready for the crossing?

Indeed.


p.s.
What am I going to do today?
I need to find out why the author E.E.G. is giving me such intense truth chills. :rolleyes:
I do suspect it is yet another powerful clue I must/will follow.
A clue that I have RECOVERED, placed there by ? to help/assist/lead me back to ?

As you can see...I still have two big unanswered questions. :D

Here is something about knowledge. Note that Beelzebub's Tales has been purposely written to be very dense and convoluted, to provoke the struggle of the mind.

On page 902 of Beelzebub"s Tales, he wrote about the difference between mental knowledge and knowledge of being. Here is the exact quote:

And any information, even if true, gives to beings in general only "mental knowledge," and this mental knowledge, as I have already once told you, always serves beings only as a means to diminish their possibilities of acquiring this knowledge-of-being.

And on pages 1166-1167, he elaborated in great detail about the difference between what he designated as Reason-of-knowing and Reason-of-understanding. The alchemy of how these two Reasons are formed in us is well explained in those pages in respect to the operation of the Sacred Triamazikamno. <snip> In the Reason-of-understanding, the third factor is served by what is described as "the results of the persevering actualizing of the striving towards the manifestation of one"s own individuality. It is obvious that, contrary to the formation of the Reason-of-knowing, the formation of the Reason-of-understanding demands certain very specific efforts.

But it is in the third series of the Legomonism All and Everything, in the Fifth Talk of Life is real only then, when "I am," that Mr. Gurdjieff tells us in very clear terms about the difference between knowledge and being. Here is the exact quote:

The initiates belonging to the first category were those who thanks to their intentional sufferings and conscious labors attained a high gradation of what is called Being, and for this they acquired the title of "Saint." To the second category belonged those who thanks to the same factors acquired a great deal of information, and to their names was added the title "Learned;" and to the third category, those who by means of again the same factors attained Being and also enlightened themselves concerning a great number of objective truths, and to their names was added the title "Sage." http://www.gurdjieff-internet.com/

Another KEY = 528 coincidence?
:D hardly...I would expect to see 528 at the end of my daze.

How is the 528 frequency (among others) associated with serpents and a green message?

The message I see, hear and feel quite clear, on the horizon is wisdom and knowledge is NOT just about LIGHT...what has been VEILeD by EVIL, to have us LIVE their way, is SOUND.

No longer.
Knowledge of the SOUND gravity wave should actually help bring us closer together. ;)

namaste

I will take your SOUND advise to listen, so I can RESONATE. Now where can I find some good FREQUENCIES? Good Vibrations.
Surf's up, time to ride the wave of gravitation.

BTW, I am not in any way endorsing any of the Gurdijeff organizations that I have linked to for quotes. There's quite the cottage industry in these matters. I firmly believe that one can do the work anywhere. The wisdom resides inside.

[orage]

Orage... Whos words are these which you have quoted? Gurdjieff's?

This thread has been interesting to say the least ! Thanks

I am glad it RESONATES with you.

[decim]

30 second revelation, 2 seconds of Truth..."I don't remember seeing Any"...followed by 40 years of #*'^"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGePbw_4b8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGGePbw_4b8

[luciferhorus]

Not true. The Gammadion is automatically produced as a bi-product of any design comprising a minimum of four squares within a square comprising the four squares. The square is the most useful regular shape used in architecture.

Similarly, a gammadion is also a natural bi-product in basket weaving, which is why it is a symbol used in all civilisations where basket weaving was prevalant.

It's use dates back many, many, thousands of years.

It is because of CONSTANT references to Hitler and Nazi Germany that it prevents intelligent discussion of this subject.

Well I concur only in part.


I was formerly an architecture student for a couple of years; I seem to be been afflicted with being a perpetual student and gaining acidemic and technical degrees; architecture was not one of the fields I eventually gained quilifications in however I have been involved in the practical field of architecture / woodcraft / construction etc., for much of my life.

In the field of architecture there are limited number of geometrical shapes which are useful.

For example the window below (which forms part of my "Thelema Abbey" project in my home is simply the numbers one to 12 expressed in geometry.

http://www.freewebs.com/magickalcarpentry/Mars/images/a.jpg

Bottom right is a 12 pointed star, to the left is an 11 pointed star, above those two are a 10 pointed star and a 9 pointed star, above those are an 8 and 7 pointed star, and so forth and so forth.

What is the meaning of this window?

It is quite simple.

The gemoetrical translation (a translation of gemoetry to nubers) of this window is as follows: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12.

To those familiar with geometry and who have sufficient arithmetical skills to count this translation is clear.

However to those who cannot "perceive" objects with an arithmetical or geometrical mind, it may be a sign the craftsperson who created this (i.e., myself) is able to count to 12 geometrically and is therefore obviously a Satanist and a summoner of demons; this is of course entirely correct; however since there are many architects and craftspersons who are "not" Satanists (e.g., many architects and Craftspersons are actually Freemasons and therefore "God-ists;" i.e., devotees of the God of Capital) and yet they also use basic geometrical patterns.

Since there are a limited number of geometrical shapes useful in architecture, it does not follow that anyone who uses such geometry in architecture is a Nazi or a Satanist, just because the Nazis used such geometrical shapes

My Temple floor (for the summoning of rather nasty demonic entitites while on psychoactives, orgiastic sex etc.)
http://www.luciferia.tv/Mary-Magdalene/Images/mars666.jpg

It does not simply follow however that anyone who uses astrological symbolism and geometrical shapes is a Nazi and a Freemason; I personally am a Communist and an anti-Mason; I consider the god Masonry (the god of Capital) to be an enemy deity whom I seek to cast out of the earth, and I have a long history of inciting Muslims and anti-Capitalists to purge the earth of his devotees.

Nazism in history and the current economic and military establishment.

Frankly I could go on for hours on this topic, but I will mention two basic points pertaining to historical facts.

1: There is overwhelming evidence that the Nazis were openlu financed by members of the American banking establishment; Google "Union Bank, Prescott Bush, Brown Brothers Harriman," etc. In a time when Germany was suffering recession in the 20's with a worthless currency, the rather maginalised Nazi Party received millions of US dollars of financing; that is where their printing presses came from; without which I doubt they would ever have risen to power.

2: Operation Paperclip.
Although much of this involved the export of German scientists to the North America, there is adequate evidence that many of those "saved" by the Amerians were simply "ideological Nazis" exported to mostly Latin America who continued to be financed by the CIA and who carried out military coups and anti-Communist activism in Latin America, including (for example) Klaus Barbie and other mass murderers who were later hunted down by the Mossad.


The connections between the American financial and military elites between the Nazis and the Latin American neo-Nazis are sufficiently established by historical evidence that they may be considered factual and indisputable.

[quote)It is because of CONSTANT references to Hitler and Nazi Germany that it prevents intelligent discussion of this subject.[/QUOTE]

Frankly, much more prevailent in society than Holocaust Denialism (which is not quite the same as Holocaust Revisionism, which is a discussion among historians regarding certain historical "facts" which have been shown to be non-factual) is "Nazi & Neo-Nazi-collaboration-denialism," regarding the collaboration between Nazis and Neo-Nazis by the US military and economic establishment.


LL

Lux.

__________________

For example.

__________________

The Consortium
From http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/moon6.html
By Robert Parry (excerpt)



South American Drugs

Meanwhile, after World War II, South America was becoming a crossroads for Nazi fugitives and drug smugglers. Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie, the so-called Butcher of Lyons, earned his living in Bolivia by selling his intelligence skills, while other ex-Nazis trafficked in narcotics. Often the lines crossed.

In those years, Auguste Ricord, a French war criminal who had collaborated with the Gestapo, set up shop in Paraguay. Ricord opened up French Connection heroin channels to American Mafia drug kingpin Santo Trafficante Jr., who controlled much of the heroin traffic into the United States. Columns by Jack Anderson identified, Ricord's accomplices as some of Paraguay's highest-ranking officers.

Another French Connection mobster, Christian David, relied on protection of Argentine authorities. While trafficking in heroin, David also "took on assignments for Argentina's terrorist organization, the Argentine Anti-Communist Alliance," Henrik Kruger wrote in The Great Heroin Coup. During President Nixon's "war on drugs," U.S. authorities smashed this famous French Connection and won extraditions of Ricord and David in 1972.

But by then, powerful drug lords had forged strong ties to South America's military leaders. Other Trafficante-connected groups, including right-wing anti-Castro Cubans in Miami, eagerly filled the drug void. Heroin from the Golden Triangle of Southeast Asia quickly replaced the French Connection heroin that had come mostly from the Middle East.

During this period, the CIA actively collaborated with right-wing army officers to oust left-leaning governments. And amid this swirl of anti-communism, Moon became active in South America. His first visit to Argentina was in 1965 when he blessed a square behind the presidential Pink House in Buenos Aires. He returned a decade later and began making high-level contacts in Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, Bolivia and Uruguay.

The far-right gained control of Argentina in 1976 with a Dirty War that "disappeared" tens of thousands of Argentines. Michael Levine, a star undercover agent of the Drug Enforcement Administration, was assigned to Buenos Aires and was struck how "death was very much a way of life in Argentina." [See Levine's Big White Lie]


A Nazi Reunion
In nearby coca-producing Bolivia, Nazi fugitive Klaus Barbie was working as a Bolivian intelligence officer and drawing up plans for a putsch that would add that central nation to the region's "stable axis" of right-wing regimes. Barbie contacted Argentine intelligence for help.

One of the first Argentine intelligence officers who arrived was Lt. Alfred Mario Mingolla. "Before our departure, we received a dossier on ," Mingolla later told German investigative reporter Kai Hermann. "There it stated that he was of great use to Argentina because he played an important role in all of Latin America in the fight against communism. From the dossier, it was also clear that Altmann worked for the Americans." [For an English translation of Hermann's detailed account, see Covert Action Information Bulletin, Winter 1986]

As the Bolivian coup took shape, Bolivian Col. Luis Arce-Gomez, the cousin of cocaine kingpin Roberto Suarez, recruited neo-fascist terrorists such as Italian Stefano della Chiaie who had been working with the Argentine death squads. [See Cocaine Politics by Peter Dale Scott and Jonathan Marshall] Dr. Alfredo Candia, the Bolivian leader of the World Anti-Communist League, was coordinating the arrival of these paramilitary operatives from Argentina and Europe, Hermann reported. Meanwhile, Barbie started a secret lodge, called Thule. During meetings, he lectured to his followers underneath swastikas by candlelight.

While the CIA was encouraging this aggressive anti-communism on one level, Levine and his DEA field agents were moving against some of the conspirators for drug crimes. In May 1980, DEA in Miami seized 854 pounds of cocaine base and arrested two top Bolivian traffickers from the Roberto Suarez organization. But Levine saw the bust double-crossed, he suspected, for geo-political reasons.

One suspect, Jose Roberto Gasser "was almost immediately released from custody by the Miami U.S. attorney's office," Levine wrote. (Gasser was the son of Bolivian WACL associate Erwin Gasser, a leading figure in the upcoming coup.) The other defendant saw his bail lowered, letting him flee the United States. Levine worried about the fate of Bolivian officials who had helped DEA. [See Levine's Deep Cover]

On June 17, 1980, in nearly public planning for the coup, six of Bolivia's biggest traffickers met with the military conspirators to hammer out a financial deal for future protection of the cocaine trade. A La Paz businessman said the coming putsch should be called the "Cocaine Coup," a name that would stick. [Cocaine Politics]

Less than three weeks later, on July 6, DEA agent Levine met with a Bolivian trafficker named Hugo Hurtado-Candia. Over drinks, Hurtado outlined plans for the "new government" in which his niece Sonia Atala, a major cocaine supplier, will "be in a very strong position."

Later, an Argentine secret policeman told Levine that the CIA knew about the coup. "You North Americans amaze me. Don't you speak to your own people?" the officer wondered. "Do you think Bolivia's government -- or any government in South America -- can be changed without your government and mine being aware of it?"

When Levine asked why that affected the planned DEA investigation, the Argentine answered, "Because the same people he's naming as drug dealers are the people we are helping to rid Bolivia of leftists. ...Us. The Argentines ... working with your CIA." [Big White Lie]


The Cocaine Coup Cometh
On July 17, the Cocaine Coup began, spearheaded by Barbie and his neo-fascist goon squad dubbed Fiances of Death. "The masked thugs were not Bolivians; they spoke Spanish with German, French and Italian accents," Levine wrote. "Their uniforms bore neither national identification nor any markings, although many of them wore Nazi swastika armbands and insignias."

The slaughter was fierce. When the putschists stormed the national labor headquarters, they wounded labor leader Marcelo Quiroga, who had led the effort to indict former military dictator Hugo Banzer on drug and corruption charges. Quiroga "was dragged off to police headquarters to be the object of a game played by some of the torture experts imported from Argentina's dreaded Mechanic School of the Navy," Levine wrote.

"These experts applied their 'science' to Quiroga as a lesson to the Bolivians, who were a little backward in such matters. They kept Quiroga alive and suffering for hours. His castrated, tortured body was found days later in a place called 'The valley of the Moon' in southern La Paz." Women captives were gang-raped as part of their torture.

[B]To Levine back in Buenos Aires, it was soon clear "that the primary goal of the revolution was the protection and control of Bolivia's cocaine industry. All major drug traffickers in prison were released, after which they joined the neo-Nazis in their rampage. Government buildings were invaded and trafficker files were either carried off or burned. Government employees were tortured and shot, the women tied and repeatedly raped by the paramilitaries and the freed traffickers."

The fascists celebrated with swastikas and shouts of "Heil Hitler!" Hermann reported. Col. Arce-Gomez, a central-casting image of a bemedaled, pot-bellied Latin dictator, grabbed broad powers as Interior Minister. Gen. Luis Garcia Meza was installed as Bolivia's new president.


(snip)

"Bolivia soon became the principal supplier of cocaine base to the then fledgling Colombian cartels, making themselves the main suppliers of cocaine to the United States," Levine said. "And it could not have been done without the tacit help of DEA and the active, covert help of the CIA."

On Dec. 16, 1980, Cuban-American intelligence operative Ricardo Morales told a Florida prosecutor that he had become an informer in Operation Tick-Talks, a Miami-based investigation that implicated Frank Castro and other Bay of Pigs veterans in a conspiracy to import cocaine from the new military rulers of Bolivia. [Cocaine Politics]

Years later, Medellin cartel money-launderer Ramon Milian Rodriguez testified before Senate hearings chaired by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. Milian Rodriguez stated that in the early days of the cartel, "Bolivia was much more significant than the other countries." [April 6, 1988]

As the drug lords consolidated their power in Bolivia, the Moon organization expanded its presence, too. Hermann reported that in early 1981, war criminal Barbie and Moon leader Thomas Ward were often seen together in apparent prayer. Mingolla, the Argentine intelligence officer, described Ward as his CIA paymaster, with the $1,500 monthly salary coming from the CAUSA office of Ward's representative. [CAIB, Winter 1986]

On May 31, 1981, Moon representatives sponsored a CAUSA reception at the Sheraton Hotel's Hall of Freedom in La Paz. Bo Hi Pak and Garcia Meza led a prayer for President Reagan's recovery from an assassination attempt. In his speech, Bo Hi Pak declared, "God had chosen the Bolivian people in the heart of South America as the ones to conquer communism." According to a later Bolivian intelligence report, the Moon organization sought to recruit an "armed church" of Bolivians, with about 7,000 Bolivians receiving some paramilitary training.


Cocaine Stresses
But by late 1981, the obvious cocaine taint was straining U.S.-Bolivian relations. "The Moon sect disappeared overnight from Bolivia as clandestinely as they had arrived," Hermann reported. Only Ward and a couple of others stayed on with the Bolivian information agency as it worked on a transition back to civilian rule.

According to Hermann's account, Mingolla met Ward in the cafeteria Fontana of La Paz's Hotel Plaza in March 1982. Ward was discouraged about the Bolivian operation. "The whole affair with Altmann [Barbie], with the whole fascism and Nazism bit, that was a dead-end street," Ward complained. "It was stupid having Moon and CAUSA here." [CAIB, Winter 1986] Ward could not be reached for comment about this article.

The Cocaine Coup leaders soon found themselves on the run. Interior Minister Arce-Gomez was eventually extradited to Miami and is serving a 30-year sentence for drug trafficking. Roberto Suarez got a 15-year prison sentence. Gen. Garcia Meza is a fugitive from a 30-year sentence imposed on him in Bolivia for abuse of power, corruption and murder. Barbie was returned to France to face a life sentence for war crimes. He died in 1992.

Etc., etc

[raphael]

TIME TO TURN UP THE HEAT ON THE IGNORANT JUDEAO/CHRISTIAN SHEEPLE. :mad::mad:

To an ARCHETYPAL alchemist like MOI, who investigates TRUTH using the ARKetypal clues left us (coming in all shapes and sizes, just not the war drum mantra of the levant religions) ... the SHROUD of Turin could be another very compelling clue to some fundamental TRUTHs being overlooked by the BIBLE BABBLERS who are trying to make the FACTS of LIFE fit their self-serving FICTION. ;)

All the evidence is always made, or efforts are made to fit their version HIS-story fit the events of history.
The JC funnyANDmentalist ARKeologist searches for a moSeS Pharaoh, ignoring the fact that Egyptian history makes NO mention of an EXODUS.
However this Exodus is a defining moment in the self-serving Hebrew script found in the old testament. (the source of which is that moSeS fella....)

And as we approach 2012 the clearly defined new age judeao/christian light worker wanker NOW in fact also wants to take poSSeSSion of the HEATHEN MAYA Calender and twist this HEATHEN calender of events to fit THEIR official version of the events?

SEE WHY I HAVE CONTEMPT FOR THESE HOLIER THAN THOU IGNORANT RELIGIOUS PLEBES?

60 MILLION indigenous perished in the Americas/the New World, died at the LEFT and RIGHT hands of the JC cult....
The crucifix waving light worker wankers wanted to make more LEBENSRAUM in the Americas, and of course saving ALL the HEATHENS every step of the way westward...from the Atlantic to the Pacific the western hemisphere was cleansed by the crucifix waving SOBs.
That is how I see it...and history supports me.

These Inglorious JC Basterds also used bio-warfare, tainted blankets laced with smallpox traded to the the HEATHENS, to help speed up the cleansing process.
More room was needed for the parasitic holier-than-thou jesus christ reBLEATing wankers they planned on begetting.

That is just ONE example of how the self-serving MASTERS, have scripted a JC HIS-story specifically for their flock, who clearly wanna remain IGNORANT of any real HISTORY.
IF these religious wackos knew the REAL truth of their EVIL JC Cult, their fucking guilt would not let them rest at night.

ASK the BIBLE BABBLERS to explain the GoddeSS cultures...like the Vinca culture that flourished in 5000 BC in the heart of eastern europe.....
Where is that chapter in your bible babel?
Did that chapter/gospel get tossed out as not being relevant?

Where is the chapter in the Bible that addresses the HER-Story that took place between 5000-9000 BC, that clearly predates the HIS-story as depicted by all the self-serving Patriarchal narratives, a story of biblical proportions that starts somewhere between 5000-4000 BC.

Where is that chapter/GOSPEL?
Eh?
Was it TOO RELEVANT?

Bible Babblers without a doubt form the core of the IGNORANT reBLEATing human doings...trying 'to become' the human beings...
HEY JUDEAO/CHRISTIANS be forewarned DON'T START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SUN, THE MOON, OR THE ZODIAC EITHER...ya bunch of confused RELIGIOUS PLEBES.

Do you know why you should not 'go there'?
Because you might even try to say the Zodiac represents the life cycle of JeSuS too....
And the herd of IGNORANT sheeple do NOT want to go there.

Because now we can actually agree on something. :p:p

infideyork mentioned the SHROUD of Turin has a special stitch in the seam.
I wonder what kind of stitch it was?
Because I know the mainstream STRING theory and my XX KNOT theory are connected on the most basic of levels.
Strings cross over each other, strings also vibrate.
Strings can become ropes with which to hang oneself?

XX =WAVE INTERFERENCE

An ancient vortex/spiral theory we can trace back to 5000 BC, understood by investigating serpen ts, because serpents are waveforms to the RIGHT BRAIN.

cha cha cha
WHY THEY (FREEMASONS and the ANCIENTs) WORSHIPED THE OWL
Important to know this TOO >> ole' Egyptian the OWL hieroglyph = SOUND of 'M'

And M can become a 3, W or E ... simply by rotating the M, 90 degrees three times. :D

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/761097245_a025abea4a-1.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/Square_compasses.svg/220px-Square_compasses.svg.pnghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/761967922_3a61101e89-1.jpg

XX theory and the Freemasons?

The above Owl is outside a Freemason Lodge in Riga, Latvia.
NOTE the bookmark...from a distance I thought it was XX, now I realize XX = compaSS and Square

WHO (sez the owl) wants to go to the next level and leave the belligerent Christians, Jews and Muslims to fight amongst themselves...for a scripted eternity I bet...?

It is so obvious once you OPEN YOUR MIND sheeple, and take that FIGURATIVE archetypal step back in TIME....using your own literal history...try to make it fit the 'official story' that you graze on.
You will see it fits nicely.
You will find out that you are a god and immortal.
The gate is open...
FLEE or be a flea?

And yes Dorothy my little trip to OZ using the GOLDEN RATIO/GOLDEN spiral, the Yellow Brick Road, includes appearances by the lyin' lion kings, the tigers and bears too!!!!

Because that is exactly what was reported on Jan. 7th of 2010 ...the Year of the Tiger, btw.
At the nano-scale ... the GOLDEN RATIO plays a significant role in the creation process.

bit of a rant...I know.
I thought I was posting on one of the religious threads...
I am off to see the wizard now ... :cool:

[raphael]

'Thrice' Cosmic meSSengerS = Sanctus! Sanctus! Sanctus! = Great! Great! Great!

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/cosmic-messengers-thrice-sanctus-sanctus-sanctus-great-great-great/

namaste ;)

[thetonic]

That is what NIBIRU means btw.
A crossing or to cross-over...again a common theme in ancient cosmologies...rivers etc. divide the living from the dead.

I believe the symbolism has been poorly interpreted by Sitchen.
Though I do love his initials ZS. (25?)
There is NO way he ever read the archetypal bible I found, that I want to share with you...
This book will make you so wise...I promise.
And I am not selling it...though you should buy it.
From a place called keSSinger publishing ... ;)




Raphael thank you for this posting on Nibiru ... Would it help you on your quest to know that Zachari Sitchen is indeed purposefully misinterpreting the symbolism of Sumeria? It is common knowledge in certain circles that Sitchin is an agent of the Zionist / Jesuit partnership to decieve and control mankinds thoughts and understandings of the most spiritual and self empowering knowledge...

He is an enemy of truth. Do not be deceived


Peace

[raphael]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/jupiterkeyhole.jpg

We have seen that the coma of Jupiter (zeus) after defeating saturn/kronos looks like a keyhole.

This keyhole plays a big role in symbology.


I do agree.
As a matter of fact the keyhole often takes the shape of a 'lightbulb'!!

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/jupiterkeyhole-1.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SantaCantalinaMandala.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Nazi_Swastika.svg/140px-Nazi_Swastika.svg.png

looks like the image I photographed in peru eh?
exactly the same shape as your Chinese symbol and it employs the colors of alchemy.

dodeca what colors were the 3 BULLS in the Book of Enoch? :p
dodeca what 3 colors were used in alchemy before 'yellow/gold' was added as a 4th color?

dodeca needs to read MORE of what I offer.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ss-goddess-civilizations-and-the-vinca-script-55oo-b-c/

as a matter of fact dodeca your KEYHOLE looks very similar to this whorl recovered by Henry Schliemann in Troy...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/Swastikaandthe4EvangelistsandTRO-5.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/jupiterkeyhole-1.jpg

Take a look at the image on the right.
Take a look at your KEYHOLE...
Go take a look at the Temple of Jupiter in Baalbeck...
Tell me if you find LIONS and SWASTIKAs...

EWE folks do not like to use the 'S' word eh?

Because it is powerful.
The SWASTIKA or the 'S' word cuts like a knife.
the swastika, the western 'S' word = SWORD?

Again I ask dodeca
Do you think like Dave Talbott who supports your Saturn crap, that the SWASTIKA is a non-issue?
Eh?
so stop looking for missing 'T's on talbot or maybe I forgot to dot my eyes?

This in fact could be your 'problem', what is holding you back from going deeper down the hole?
Folks seem to avoid the doors with swastikas on them...
WHY?

NOT ME!!!
They beckon me, I know they VEIL the truth.

namaste

[raphael]

Please note the latest AHA! :cool:

The SATOR/ROTAS SQUARE more commonly known as the Knights Templar Square or the Magic Square of Mars, lines up very nicely with Roger Penrose's Twistor Theory. ;)
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=239021#p239021

They match up LETTER FOR LETTER ... the code will soon be broken?
Stay tuned to this channel and this channel-er?

namaste

[orage]

http://hoocher.com/Rogier_van_der_Weyden/The_Last_Judgment_(detail_eleven)_1446_52.jpghttp://www.dolfistore.com/public/images_auto/medie/16108-02-C.jpg
The Last Judgment

Whenever people question the concept of space sound... plenty of little Rapahel in the sky to blow the trumpets :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/3061031658_1d7293b18f_o.jpg

[orage]

as a matter of fact dodeca your KEYHOLE looks very similar to this whorl recovered by Henry Schliemann in Troy...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/Swastikaandthe4EvangelistsandTRO-5.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/jupiterkeyhole-1.jpg


http://www.memmel-online.de/artikel/sabo/pe341.jpghttp://austria-lexikon.at/attach/Wissenssammlungen/Symbole/Kaiserkrone_österreichische/Reichsapfel_360h.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/DDHeide_Wegzeichen_Reichsapfel.jpg/480px-DDHeide_Wegzeichen_Reichsapfel.jpg

[thetonic]

http://www.memmel-online.de/artikel/sabo/pe341.jpg

Now that one is most intriguing ... Any background information you'd like to share on this one Orage?

[raphael]

http://www.memmel-online.de/artikel/sabo/pe341.jpg

Now that one is most intriguing ... Any background information you'd like to share on this one Orage?

great stuff orage :D
It should become clear why NONE of the biblical narratives have any images or sketches to accompany them?

just filled with WORDS, nobody thought to sketch the son of god?
put the S in front of WORD = SwordS to divide the herd with?

The Old Testament has both ORAL and WRITTEN traditions/teachings...but the VISUAL is notably absent.
Does it give THEY a license to fill in the BLANKS (the sheeple) pushing the buttons from a distance, using the archetypal imprinting that is already in place, similar to DNA?

Maybe that is the void the Tarot/Tora/Torah tried to fill.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bb/Jean_Dodal_Tarot_trump_03.jpg
CARD III the EmpreSS of the Tarot of Marseille

Now what about that $ that is front and center on the globe?

HIS-story = IHS story = I + H + S


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/30/60508145_bd4950d3a1.jpg

Remove the H from HIS-story
what is left?

The IS story.
The story of $
Human consciousness in the 4th dimension is all about $
It is not a coincidence they share the same KEY on the qwerty keyboard.
4 = $ = cha ching**

**this however is the wrong kind of alchemy.
The journey is NOT about acquiring the material gold...
It is about unveiling the spiritual...
This path, personal alchemy, is always available to everybody...
IHS = IS = $
http://forums.abrahadabra.com/showthread.php?2108-Sacred-Solfeggio-Frequencies&p=37089#post37089


more IHS and IHC?
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/the-ihc-and-ihs-conspiracy-and-you/

More manipulations that are intended to obviously fook with the IGNORANT sheeple brains.
Who are the sheeple?
...read my posts...they identify themselves ALL the time.
Sadly that is how IGNORANT they are of who there are! :p

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."
Lucius Anneus Senneca (the younger) (4 BCE-65CE)


interesting eh?
Lucius was born in the same year as jeSuS. ;)
Does he ever mention jeSuS?

As it happens, the life of Seneca, like that of Philo, was contemporaneous with the "Jesus" of legend. Yet though Seneca wrote extensively on many subjects and people, nothing relating to "Jesus" ever caught his attention, nor does he show any awareness of a "vast multitude" of Christians, supposedly, punished for the fire that ravaged Rome in 64 AD.


more jeSuS = CULTure programming found here:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/seneca.html

waste of taxpayer's money or $ = the fucking self-serving judeao/christian hiStorianS

namaste

[macneil]

as a matter of fact dodeca your KEYHOLE looks very similar to this whorl recovered by Henry Schliemann in Troy...

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/Swastikaandthe4EvangelistsandTRO-5.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/jupiterkeyhole-1.jpg



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d2/DDHeide_Wegzeichen_Reichsapfel.jpg/480px-DDHeide_Wegzeichen_Reichsapfel.jpg

I wonder where the key of eternal life fits with your keyhole...

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/ankh_sarcophagus.jpg http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/o/or/original_coptic_cross.svg.png http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/c/cc/ccross.svg.png http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:UGytc8fDTa52cM:http://math.slu.edu/escher/upload/thumb/4/46/Ankh.svg/321px-Ankh.svg.png http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PBDv54DjUmoAfM:http://www.askaboutireland.ie/_internal/gxml!0/m6s6aicjogoampxnh1a9dzzq7k4g1nn%24lsb4wvrg3b2duca9 kmngosuair6acrc

You have the extra fertility symbol on top of St Brigids...

[macneil]

Left hand, right hand...

http://www.newageinfo.com/images/Cernunnos.jpg

[orage]

http://www.memmel-online.de/artikel/sabo/pe341.jpg

Now that one is most intriguing ... Any background information you'd like to share on this one Orage?

Paris Hilton may have one like this :)

I went down the rabbit hole today and found a key hole. At the end of the movie, Alice started the East-India Company. :eek:

[raphael]

I went down the rabbit hole today and found a key hole. At the end of the movie, Alice started the East-India Company. :eek:

details about her 'Looking Glass' adventure with Mowgli please?
does Rudyard Kipling and the swastika come into play? :D

namaste

[raphael]

Left hand, right hand...

http://www.newageinfo.com/images/Cernunnos.jpg

you might enjoy this
it gets to the heART of the matter
re: left hand vs. right hand and the role of 'asymmetry'

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/

extra extra
read all about it :D
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/

namaste

[macneil]

you might enjoy this
it gets to the heART of the matter
re: left hand vs. right hand and the role of 'asymmetry'

http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/

extra extra
read all about it :D
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/category/left-hand-pathuniversal-asymmetryright-hand-path/

namaste

I did read it a while back, being the inspiration for the left hand, right hand in my post ;)... worth reading again thanks for the links :D

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/AAA2St.PetersSquareVatican.jpg

[raphael]

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/11258Swastikaandpi.jpghttp://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Tarot52811.jpg

The Swastika, pi, the 4 Evangelists and CARD X of the Tarot?

:cool: http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=253966#p253966
this link helps explain how those two images are pointing us in the right direction as we continue to unveil, reverse engineer the enigmatic swastika.

namaste

[raphael]

http://www.bibleetnombres.online.fr/images5/nazca1.jpg
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058574880&postcount=181

I forgot to add this image to ALL of the OWL images found on post #181

more insight found here:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=13032&view=next

namaste

[raphael]

This post is WORTH reBLEATing, a cut and paste from this thread where the IGNORANT math plebes rule!!!!

No comment Raph!

seems I went from 'respect' to 'disrespect'
eh Lee?

no comment Raph?
Liar Liar
your post should have ended right there then?
watch me prove you are a liar lee, and IGNORANT too?

why does your post drivel on dude, if ewe had no comment?
poor Lee is not as intuitive as I had hoped for.
sadly not he has just identified himself as another of the IGNORANT sheeple who refuse ENLIGHTENMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly what defines an ignorant sheeple is their refusal to LEARN something which lay beyond their grasp, out in the open.
Watch me prove it?


followed links down the so called rabbit hole. But more like shithole as all it was was you having a go at people???
Im not a hand clapper Raph, so no cheer from here for that crap.


didn't like going down my shithole?
barbi thinks I am a butthole?
I think your hole stinks dude?
The one ewe went down?
Barbi loves the smell of your hole not my butthole?
How did the rabbit hole become all of the above?
IGNORANCE

The fellas who call me all kinds of names, have trouble following the DIRECT path I am trying to lay out for them?

I have been called crazy by nearly everybody whose work I dis?
Of course.
Yet I am merely trying to help folks get to the next level, in spite of themselves?
Happens all the time on planet IGNORANCE, you folks call earth.

All I ever do is call you folks IGNORANT because you do not understand what I do and how I do it.
Apparently if I am not on the same page as the IGNORANT I become the object, the 'butt' 'shithole' of all their IGNORANT frustrations?


Was there any particular argument you would have prefered me read??


YES there was...I thought you might 'see it' or 'feel it'
hey no problemo Lee,

If you can prove Sadukans 4 Royal Stars are the real 4 ROYAL STARS that should be honored, then I will leave this thread.
The same challenge is open to all of you.
But the FACT is I am 100% correct about what the 4 ROYAL STARS represent.
THE REAL significance.

Sadukan and his IGNORANT ego has the herd of ewe jumping through his fruit loops?


Thanks Sudukan- stacks more that i havent put up yet that will help as all mod9 possbilities done in 3D and unified torus continuos switchover.


the only word that interested me in the above was the word 'switchover', which is what we could call a 'crossover'?
And I know of a fella who has a musical 'crossover' that exists between the numbers 4 and 5.
You folks should get together and compare notes.

I am not in any way insinuating that you folks are not on the right track...
we all are...and we will all suffer the same fate, some of us are in the lead car either pulling or pushing the entire train, some of us are in the caboose with no engine of its own.

No comment Raph!
ps Raph That sator square you call Alex Patty is the work of Scott Nelson- shit then, shit now.

glad you mentioned that.
But hey clearly you are focusing on the wrong two guys?
Petty alex and Scotty Nelson.

I must admit, I am ignorant too, who can possibly know everything?
But hey I am not telling you to focus on those fellas.

ED WITTEN is the name EVERYBODY on this THREAD should learn to RESPECT.
The next heir apparent to Einstein according to some folks in the know?

What do I know and care about the spiritual thieves who want to prosper using the work of others, like Alex who appears Petty?
It might work that way in the material world, but in the spiritual world, theft of spirit is much more difficult a crime to pull off than one involving 'matter'.
That is why I offer the TRUTH for free.
Any idea of how many gold stars I shall be rewarded for this unselfish effort?
As it will become more and more apparent that I am full on, and most of ewe are full of it?

who cares though...
because I leave a trail of 'public domain' as I build over the work of others.
Personally I think *intellectual* property rights are a scam, listen to sadukan whine about his silly picture he recovered from the 'mem', all the while he builds on the work of others?
duh

Is there any evidence of the Egyptians having such a scam in place, intellectual property rights?
Oh yes, I forgot the Temple Priest guarded the secrets until *copyright* was institutionalized.

I love the fact the SWASTIKA is in fact public domain.


And the numerology with cipher 3 mason!?


THE 3 is very important, ever hear of a trinity?
Is the triangle associated with divinity?
What is the first complete 'shape' or 'form'?
A right angle triangle maybe?

3 = Osiris
4 = Isis
5 = Horus

3 and 4 are discussed at the end of this post.

GOOD Freemason books might help you with this concept Lee, not the mainstream fictional crap but out by fellas like Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh...i.e. Holy Blood, Holy Grail = Holy Crap

http://academialodge.org/library_authors.php
add the Freemasons Frank C. Higgins, I. Edward Clark, Albert Churchward to the list we see on this page.

Mr. HIGGINS helped me understand the HIGGS Boson.
Please understand fellas, your connections are done using number patterns garnered from a tree of knowledge, I also use the poetree I found in Eden to interpret the cosmos.
A kind of allegorical celestial wisdom that cannot be found using only VBM.

Freemasonry's language is geometry?
DO I NEED TO PROVE THAT TOO, to the ignorance that pervades this thread?

Do you want my reading list Lee, so ewe, you and u can TRY to follow along with me?
EWE need to read books that were written before WWI/WWII/NAZI rhetoric and 21st century judeao-christian propaganda,which has been turned up a notch using the boob-tube and radio.
THE IGNORANT and PROFANE have been given a voice? :mad:


If the letters do fit [and i have no reason to think they dont if you say they do] then its the best thing that atrocity has ever produced.. whether Marko likes it or not?

I agree who cares about what Marko thinks in the big picture?
you, me and marko are cogs.

Why do you say ATROCITY?

Has Marko and Nassim Haramein, working together come up with any 'real answers'?
It is you fellas who are building on certain aspects of Marko's work using VBM and then even dissing him sometimes?
I admit I do not use VBM to arrive alive.
Not the ticket I bought, into.

Many folks do not use VBM to get to the TRUTH.
Many roads lead into the center where TRUTH can be found?

forget petty Alex who stole from Scott Nelson?
forget Marko and Nassim for a moment?
you folks worship Nassim Haramein too?
but you folks are IGNORANT of Ed Witten's accomplishments?

Okay most of the folks on this thread have heard about Marko and Nassim?
thanks to Barbitone's signature perhaps.

But how many have heard of Ed Witten?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Witten_Blackboard.jpg/189px-Witten_Blackboard.jpg

Edward Witten (born August 26, 1951) is an American theoretical physicist with a focus on mathematical physics. He is a professor at the Institute for Advanced Study. He is a leading researcher in superstring theory, supersymmetric quantum field theories and other areas of mathematical physics. Edward Witten is regarded by many of his peers as one of the greatest living physicists. He currently is the only physicist to have received the highest honor in mathematics, the Fields Medal.

So folks what is the connection between the SS, SATOR SQUARE and Ed Witten's SS theory?

I shall take one last kick at the can with my big T.O.E. in trying to explain myself.
I will even try to be respectful of the IGNORANCE I see before me.
I can only try, dealing with IGNORANCE is very trying.
Contempt is a difficult thing to master on the road to compaSSion.

The notation that Ed Witten uses in his Twistor String Theory uses the following 'letters'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory

M, N, R, P, T, and the letter 'C' is introduced when discussing Supertwistor Space,
where 'N' is the number of supersymmetries. ;)


so now let us compare, see if we can find PATTERNS between the MODERN SS theory to the ancient SS theory found in Pompeii alongside the swastika, both of which have been OBVIOUSLY buried under Roman Catholic Christian rhetoric.

(shhh do not tell anyone Lee, especially those that believe in the jesus theory that the villa of the mysteries in Pompeii has swastikas? :eek: )
How to create a religion?
You must start with a mystery, my friend.

:cool: Let us start with the letter 'N' that defines the NUMBER of Supersymmetries in Ed Witten's theory, the LEAD RESEARCHER in string theory.
It is not Marko, it is not Nassim.
Who will be crowned the next 'Einstein'?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/Garden%20Photos/SATORSQUAREandVBMcontributorsRod-1.jpg

Where do we find the 'N' in the SATOR/ROTAS square?
IN THE CENTER.

I found that odd when I was analyzing this particular 'SHAPE/FORM' that originates FIRST in the RIGHT BRAIN and then gets translated into a letter by the LEFT BRAIN, where speech/writing originated.
Expressed as the 'N'.
So what how does the mind compute the letter 'N'.

Using physics (the geometer pythagoras in your mind) what are the possible permutations of the letter 'N' when translated through x,y,z?

there are 5 of them.
what are they?

the most obvious is to rotate the 'N', through 90 degrees to make the letter 'Z'.
The 'Z' my friends is the first glyph (100,000 BC) we have as evidence of our evolution to a writing culture.

Does the 'Z' look like a '2' too.
YES of course it does.
So rotations of N become Z or 2
What about reflections?

recap on the letter 'N':
The letter N rotated to a Z (zig zag) reflected in a mirror, along y or z looks like a S or 5.
What actually becomes apparent is the SUPER-SYMMETRIC N can be rotated/reflected through 5 different shapes.
N, Z, 2, 5, S

do you see the 25 fellas?
and the reflection of 25 in the y,z axis is 52?

http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix5/CELTIC_CROSS.gif
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=170038

Shall we move on to the next ring or valance of the Sator Square represented by the letters RP and E.
We note right away the following:

1 - N
4 - E
4 - T

Thus we have 9 LETTERS that form the word NET or TEN.
Thus depending on if you read the letters moving toward the center we obviously read the word TEN four times, (nassim gravity pulls in) or radiating out from the center (nassim radiation) we read the words NET four times.

But E rotated through x,y,z, looks like an M, 3, and W.
Lee there is your reason for the '3' perhaps?

So the numbers we are left with after all translations of the glyph/letter 'N' through x,y,z, are 2, 3, and 5?
How important are 2, 3, and 5 in music fellas? :p

And a reminder here.
The Temple of Delphi (re:Apollo) is intimately connected to the glyph 'E'.


Take a look at this image from 5000 BC?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l280/kachina2012/SwastikaSamarraIraq5000BC.jpg

Swastika Plate from 5000 BC is a Model of the Milky Way
>>>http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/swastika-plate-5000-bc-is-a-model-of-the-milky-way/

So who does NOT see the following in the above image?
'M' positioned in the northwest
'E' positioned in the southwest
'W' positioned in the southeast
'3' positioned in the northeast


:cool: re: my research that has NOT been acknowledged.
recap of what I just said:
As I have contended time and again since posting that blog on Sept. 3/2008 (but folks need to hear it from the likes of a Bauvel or Hancock or ? to be true), this swastika plate is an ancient mnemonic, for an ancient vortex theory that CENTERED around the swastika and the letter 'E' and 'N' and 4 x T (tau cross)

Also fellas that means the Lo Shu Magic Square with the EVEN/yin numbers positioned in the corners where we find the R and P.
It also means that the gylphs 3MEW are to be associated with the ODD/yang numbers.

Prime numbers = ODD except the '2'
But hey do not forget the only PRIME number that is EVEN is a '2' or maybe sometimes an 'N' or a 'Z'.
Follow?

So the 9 squares that make up the CROSS are comprised of the letters N, R, P, and E.

And the 4 letters left in each of the four quadrants of the ROTAS SQUARE, divided by the cross, spell either SARA or POOR?
too funny, just something I happen to notice.
POOR abraham and his sister SARA?
mooving on......

We are thus left with 16 squares positioned in the corners of the ROTAS SQUARE?
How many elementary particles have so far been identified?
16
The SabeanS/Vatican associate with the number 16 too.

And we know the HIGGS BOSON/gravity is the 17th particle they have been searching for, and they have found it, and it has a musical SOUND component to it.

1 4 7
2 5 8
3 6 9

And as I predict right now...they will determine the HIGGS BOSON has 9 frequencies reduced to the original '3' solfeggio and '3' letters NET comprising the SATOR CROSS, numbers which are anagrams of the numbers found on all keypads we still use today to communicate and do buSineSS.

UT – 396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear
RE – 417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Chang3
MI – 528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
FA – 639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships
SOL – 741 Hz – Awakening Intuition
LA – 852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order

The magical/elusive 17th particle isolated by CERN forms a cross comprised of the letters that spell NET?

Thus the NET/GRAVITY comprises the CROSS?

oh my I really am wasting my time sharing celestial poetry composed by the creator with sheeple who continually reBLEAT nonsense?

Clearly you folks are DEAD DEAD DEAD and sadukan who continually fucks around with TRUTH manipulating 4 ROYAL STARS to fit his cosmology is evidence of what?

Sadukan is ROYALLY IGNORANT of the 4 ROYAL STARS?
blame math only stupid shit for that, dissing the prophets, YES ME, who see the poetry behind all the BS going on around me.

So please do continue to play this game of rotations/reflections using the notation of the TWISTOR STRING THEORY, matching it to the SATOR/ROTAS square ... SOURCE UNKNOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Use the relationships between the letters/notation (ask Ed Witten) to solve the Sator Square...could Ed's insights help us understand how we transit from the 4x4 square of Jupiter UP to the 5x5 Sator Square...or maybe DOWN to the 3x3 square of Saturn?

UP and DOWN is how quantum spin is defined?

BTW when attempting to mesh these two theories, separated by nearly 2000 years, please remember that the 'C' notation used in Super-Symmetry, i.e in CP3/4 represents the As and the Os that we find in the SATOR Square.

Understand?
Let me show you how ART imitates LIFE, or is ART actually being used to lead the sheeple in a certain direction, toward a certain LIFE style?

Hey did any of you see the film INCEPTION yet?
The gal who becomes the architect of the MAZES, her name is Ariadne.
Just like in the myth about Theseus who kills the minotaur and escapes with the assistance of her 'LIFELINE', a thread.
In firefighting we follow the hoseline out if we get in trouble.

Remember what was found in the SAFE alongside the 'WILL' suggesting the SON build a new empire, once PAPA was dead?

The entire film is about planting seeds in the mind = INCEPTION
Did you notice that in FACT a seed or two was planted in the minds of the viewing audience once the safe was open?

What were the 3 SEEDS planted into the MINDS of the IGNORANT moovie attending sheeple, once the safe was opened and the secret was exposed?

#1 seed WILL to live?

#2 seed a WINDMILL
this blog explains why a windmill was used...scroll down till you see the images of the windmill and start reading.
>> http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/07/21/ss-splendour-of-the-sun-alchemy-and-the-swastika/

#3 seed the numbers 3 and 4 can be clearly seen on two of the arms of the WINDMILL. (I happen to notice, I live at #43)
but why 43 or 34, what is the more profound significance?
>> http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2009/12/17/43-the-freemason-compass-and-dna/

And using another formula I stumbled and bumbled upon, found in books, NOT on the interNET, is a formula that is comprised 16 letters, and it is very clear to me that I can suggest that concealed on the two other arms of the WINDMILL, that we do not see are the numbers 4 and 5?

NOW here is where my Freemason 'deep throat' offers some gems in helping me prove this FACT that THEY are planting SEEDS in the human subconscious.

The Beginning of Masonry by Frank C. Higgins
>>> http://www.regulargrandlodgevirginia.com/files/Beginning_of_Masonry.pdf

The formula I want to share taken from that text (written in 1913) looks like this.
It is a formula the represents the 4 forces modern physics has identified.
Actually I have found two opposing formulas.

i.e.
4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16 = 5 + 4 + 3 + 4 = VIHIH + HVVH + HIH + JHVH

http://www.regulargrandlodgevirginia.com/files/Beginning_of_Masonry.pdf
Go to page 116 to see the formula I used above on the right using the letters:

H used 8 times
V used 4 times

I used 3 times
J used only once?

But remember that the I = J

Now do you want to see the simple proof I have recovered connecting all of the above to the swastika, NOT found in a Freemason text, but a Rosicrucian one, along with a 12th century manuscript detailing a wheel that represents the 4 BEASTS, that we know as 11, 2, 5, 8.
YES we are back at the CODE found on CARD X.
CARD X solves X folks, including the BS regarding the ZS/25 (Zach Sitchen) planet called Nibiru?
What if?

Another piece to the jigsaw puzzle I have recovered?
That confirms all of the above?
The proof is continually ARRIVING folks.

Just in TIME, as our TIME is running out.

namaste

Raphael is clearly a prophet
who seeks NO PROFITS

NOW if any of the ignorant folks on this forum want to learn more about how to interpret all of this nonsense.
ALL you gotta do is HUMBLE your IGNORANT self and ask.
nicely

BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD LOCK THIS THREAD
put a cap on IGNORANCE first and FOURmost?

THE ONLY REASON to keep it going is to help Ed Witten and me incorporate VBM into this GOLDEN, BEAUTIFUL, SIMPLE, ELEGANT THEORY OF EVERYTHING that is not yet complete....

But obviously the numbers and letters are falling into place.
All has been written fellas.
I am only the messenger sharing the OBVIOUS
Written by Witten and r. (me)

and ALL OF YOU are doing what the IGNORANT PROFANE MASS OF HUMANITY DOES BEST, from cradle to grave.

reBLEAT IGNORANCE till the end of time.

of course I do not mean LOCK this thread.
KEEP THE TRUTH ALIVE

[luciferhorus]

http://eruizf.com/masonico/images/temple_01.jpg

The Royal Secret of Freemasonry

Well again the most simple explanation for a complex theory is often the closest to the truth.

There are probably numerous different interpretations of the Masonic "Royal Secret" and it is a matter which is clouded by "obfuscation ("concealment of intended meaning in communication, making communication confusing, intentionally ambiguous, and more difficult to understand")" which you appear to be intent on adding to.

http://www.knight-lomas.com/Hiram_key.jpg

The matter is simplified in the work by two Masonic authors Knight and Lomas, "The Hiram Key," where the Royal Secret is made simple and clear.

The simple truth of the matter is that Masonry is a cult whose rituals are "based" upon ancient "King making" rituals, and the simple Royal Secret is that they are a Messianic cult with a secret "Royal (i.e., a secret king).

Of course I state such a simple explanation only for the benefit of others here, and not for your benefit "Raphael," since apparently the only explantions which mean anything to you are your own complex explanations for simple matters, and all others who would dispute your nonsense are obviously ignorant and unenlightened.

On the Holy Guardian Angel Raphael

http://www.howarddavidjohnson.com/Raphael_with_Caduceus_Staff.jpg

I also utilise the angelic invocation of "Raphael (Hebrew: "God Heals;" more on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archangel)" on other Internet profiles, particularly in the GLBT Internet world, and I have to point out to you that invocations of Holy Guradian Angels are very serious matters, which can also the destroy, corrupt and drive insane the "host" if they misuse the invocation and fail in the attempt.

Your "raphael" - prophet personification is one of the most apalling I have ever come accross.

I shall await the usual showering of ignorance and abuse which you seem to shower almost everyone with who fails to recognise your alleged divinity.

Lux

[raphael]

Well again the most simple explanation for a complex theory is often the closest to the truth.


well it is not the blah blah that IGNORANT folks like you type dude.



blah blah Knight Lomas nonsense


those fellas are idiots my friend
I have read that book.
IT SUCKS IN A BIG WAY
MOST FREEMASON crap post WWII and NAZI propaganda is just that.

folks please click on the links I direct you to on this thread.
it seems Lucifer Horus has decided to TROLL my threads.
Does this IGNORANT human ask any questions of what I offer?
duh no.



Lux

tell me what LUX means IGNORANT human?
Light!!!! he reBLEATS
what is the symbol for LUX?
it that when the + was switched to x?

get lost
stay off these threads please?
my explanation is not complicated
all you, ewe and u, need to do is learn about the xyz of a mirror.


duh YES!!!!
god and freemasons are GEOMETERS

so why oh why do you use your LITERAL IGNORANCE filled with much VERBAL VERBOSITY to express a FIGURATIVE meanings of xyz?

duh where is the GEOMETRY in your BS little theory about the ROYAL SECRET that freemasons harbour?
something about building a TEMPLE.
duh no kidding, now find the references to the xyz in the narrative?
duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

those two fellows you mentioned are really STUPID FREEMASONS
duh
not all FREEMASONS are created equal.

namaste

[raphael]

Your "raphael" - prophet personification is one of the most apalling I have ever come accross.

I shall await the usual showering of ignorance and abuse which you seem to shower almost everyone with who fails to recognise your alleged divinity.

Lux

yup of course I will shower ewe, you and u with abuse Luciferhorus?
what kind of stupid nonsense will that name LUCIFER + HORUS draw toward one?

Are you one of those lightwanker workers?

So commands Lucifer?
eh really?
do you belong to the Lucis Trust, endorsed by the UN, started by Alice Bailey and her Freemason husband Foster who fed his wife Rosicrucian text?

I shall continue to align myself with the tetragrammaton/YHVH represented by the *good luck* swastika that is 12,000 years old, at least.

And my guardian angel Raphael who is teaching me all about the angles will also protect me.

get lost
the herd of you folks are really going to attract some negative energy if you continue to stand in the way of a vital unifying message.
oh yes
there will be hell to pay

mesatan

[raphael]

http://www.howarddavidjohnson.com/Raphael_with_Caduceus_Staff.jpg


Lux

so Lou-cipher Horus? :p

duh dude with a handle like that...EWE should know ALL of the following like a true prophet who recognizes PATTERNS does?

duh how many HOURS are there in day HORUS?

EH?
How many degrees does the SUN travel in one HOURs HORUS?

duh
360 /24 = 15

duh how did 15 become $ = Jesus Salvator?
?
can EWE please answer the OBVIOUS?

do ewe, or you, want to read my post that exposes 15 =$ = jesus makes the world go round?

horu$ = $ = je$u$ salvator?
(seems jesus knows how double his $)

NOW, shall we move onto the more OBVIOUS question about the image ewe posted of me, err I mean the Archangel Raphael holding the caduceus?

First off, it should be spelled KAduSeuS in my humble opinion.
But before I show how my humble opinions TRUMP yours, OBVIOUSLY handed down, beget by IGNORANCE....

I will give ewe a chance to redeem yourself.

What symbol do the Freemasons use is based on the KAdu$eu$?
Or is it the *OTHER* way around?

What pre-literate NEO-lithic symbol is the Caduceus based on? :D

Eh mr. LIGHT-worker who talks about devils, satan, lucifer, angels and such and claims he can fast track other IGNORANT sheeple with his spew?
As I shall show the LouCipher is plain IGNORANT of how he is being manipulated, even by his own pathetic dogma!!!!

Obviously dude, you have had some twisted kind of SEED PATTERN laid down.
It is clear to me that WE do not share the same SEED PATTERN!!!

Please READ the link below BEFORE you respond, for a CHANGE? :mad:
WTF are ewe, you and u nurturing in your nature?

Who planted those SEEDS?

“…INCEPTION the SEED PATTERN and the SWASTIKA”
go here for more of a piece of my mind.
http://kachina2012.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/inception-the-seed-pattern-and-the-swastika/

EWE could use a piece of my mind to fill the hole in yours fella based on an underlying TRUTH that unites.
TIME to bury your kind of nonsense ONCE and for ALL!!

hey Lou-cipher I see the image of Raphael has 7 STARS above me head?
7 stars = 7 letters = RESPECT?
I like these 7 letters...

ignorant see me as mesatan?
kids see me as mesanta?

the unifying truth is spelled namaste

and DUH
Raphael should be spelled Rapha-HEAL.

duh enjoy your awakening Lou-cipher
Duh I have, that the bible babblers each wanting to push the button to end it all and be united with their creator do not see the OBVIOUS, the creator has taken a dump, and he has his finger on lever, ready to FLUSH the IGNORANCE of humanity down down down the drain.

cya LOO.

amen