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real6
22-09-2009, 03:32 PM
Will Americans Obey Government Orders During a Swine Flu Pandemic?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/will-americans-obey-government-orders-during-a-swine-flu-pandemic.html

Local authorities are keen to know whether American citizens will obey the government in the event of an H1N1 pandemic and take the swine flu vaccine, amidst growing fears of quarantines and forced injections that have been circulating in recent weeks.

Every sign points to the fact that health authorities are preparing mass vaccination programs and quarantines that could be instituted should the H1N1 virus make a deadlier comeback, which has been all but guaranteed by U.S. health authorities as well as the WHO.

Part of those preparations include gauging the potential reaction of Americans to unpopular orders dictated by an increasingly distrusted government. How many citizens will follow orders to stay indoors, evacuate or take a shot?

Some of those questions form part of a survey being conducted by the University of Virginia’s health department targeting everyone except “federal government agencies and their employees,” who “are not qualified respondents for the survey target population,” according to an advisory sent with the survey.

The survey was forwarded to us by a reader who is part of a CEO-only networking group called MindShare in the Washington DC.

“I was sent the survey below that is probing folks in VA, MD, and Washington DC on what they would do in a pandemic or anthrax situation,” writes Etienne De La Boetie. “They appear to be trying to determine if folks will comply with government directives in either a flu pandemic or anthrax attack.”

The survey, entitled Community Shielding Shared Spectrum, was issued by the Critical Incident Analysis Group at the University of Virginia and can be read here.

The CIAG lists its role as understanding how, “Critical incidents have the potential for creating social trauma and undermining social trust in government,” according to its website, and comprises of a “network of experts from academe, media, government, military, law enforcement, industry, and the behavioral sciences.”

The survey contains a raft of questions about disaster preparedness and attempts to clarify whether people will trust the government enough to follow orders and accept vaccines during a pandemic or a biological attack. Some of the survey questions are listed as follows;

For an anthrax attack that occurred during the work day, local authorities are likely to require people to shelter in place where they are. For many this would be at work or school. Assuming that there were adequate food, water , medications and sanitation supplies, how long would you be able to stay before family or personal circumstances would force you to leave?

The multiple choice answers range from, “I would not stay at all beyond normal working hours,” to “More than 14 days.” The follow-up questions asks how long people would stay in their homes if ordered to do so by the government.

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If a vaccine for swine flu (H1N1) is offered this year, and consists of a series of two shots in addition to the normal seasonal flu vaccine, for a total of three shots, will you….

The choices range from not taking any shot to taking both shots for swine flu and the seasonal flu shot. The next question asks if the individual would take medication ‘delivered’ to them by authorities in the event of an anthrax attack or a swine flu pandemic. It does not state whether such medication would be ‘delivered’ at gunpoint as many currently fear.

If you live in an affected area and are instructed by government officials to evacuate, would you….

The respondent is then given two choices, stay at home or comply with the instructions and evacuate. The next question asks their reason for not obeying the order to evacuate.

From question 46 onwards, respondents are grilled about which authorities they trust in relation to a pandemic or a biological attack. Law enforcement, the CDC and “State/District transportation department” are all listed. Respondents are then asked how confident they are in the federal government to respond to a disaster.

Has the recent outbreak of swine flu (H1N1) made you more or less likely to follow guidance from the government or from public health agencies regarding health issues?, asks question 53.

Question 54 onwards asks which sources of information are deemed most trustworthy by the respondent and which of these would be followed during a swine flu outbreak. Federal government websites, mainstream media outlets, religious organizations and “Other, non-government Websites, social networking Websites, or Blogs” are all listed.

A plethora of questions about race, education, employment, household issues and other detailed queries accompany the questions highlighted, and the survey runs to no less than 81 questions in all.

This survey is clearly part of a national effort on behalf of authorities to gauge how Americans will react to being ordered around by a federal government that citizens are increasingly suspicious of in light of increasing awareness about the dangers of the swine flu vaccine and an understanding of what happened during the government’s last attempt to enforce a mass vaccination program for swine flu during the 1976 debacle, when the vaccine killed more people than the actual virus.

Unfortunately for the people tasked with carrying out any such forced vaccination program, 150 million American gun owners are not going to respond nicely to people who want to inject their children with mercury, squalene and other deadly additives that are admitted to be contained in the H1N1 shot now being rolled out. For their sake, and for the sake of preventing anarchy and widespread violence, we need health authorities to come out publicly and state clearly and vehemently that no such mandatory vaccination effort will take place.

Until that happens, fears about what the government is planning behind closed doors in relation to swine flu will only persist and become stronger.

pendulum
22-09-2009, 03:57 PM
I won't. I'll run to the woods and if I get caught, I'd rather let them shoot me than accept their vaccine and RFID chip.

real6
22-09-2009, 03:59 PM
i won't. I'll run to the woods and if i get caught, i'd rather let them shoot me than accept their vaccine and rfid chip.

good man!!! :D

danceswithbunnies
22-09-2009, 05:43 PM
I have already written to the citizen's corp here in my local area to find out if we are going to have forced vaccinations..
here is their reply:

Thank you for your inquiry.



Our local plans are based on nothing but an entirely voluntary response from community members coming forward to protect themselves, their families and those with whom they come in contact; no one will be required to receive a vaccination nor will there be legal issues for anyone who decides not to participate.

In answer to the question , "will Americans obey government orders..."

I don't obey or comply now, in fact i drag my feet go slow, anything i can do to impede the system.. why would i start all of a sudden "obeying" when they try to shoot me full of toxic shit?

You have to understand that the best way to fight the system, is NOT by painting a big red target on your back and shouting..."look at me, i refuse to pay taxes..." or fill in the blank with any other thing you don't want to comply with.

The best way to fight the system is by simply impedance, quiet non-compliance, and sheer pigheadedness..
The same traits that made America a free country in the first place.

pendulum
22-09-2009, 06:45 PM
I have already written to the citizen's corp here in my local area to find out if we are going to have forced vaccinations..
here is their reply:



In answer to the question , "will Americans obey government orders..."

I don't obey or comply now, in fact i drag my feet go slow, anything i can do to impede the system.. why would i start all of a sudden "obeying" when they try to shoot me full of toxic shit?

You have to understand that the best way to fight the system, is NOT by painting a big red target on your back and shouting..."look at me, i refuse to pay taxes..." or fill in the blank with any other thing you don't want to comply with.

The best way to fight the system is by simply impedance, quiet non-compliance, and sheer pigheadedness..
The same traits that made America a free country in the first place.

Well, if this shit happens, they'll eventually come to your house and take you no matter how "quietly" non-compliant you are. That is why if it does start to happen, I'll quietly leave my house, get in my car and get the fuck out of the city and hide somewhere in the wilderness away from major highways until everything settles down.
I'm not saying I'll do it anyway. I'll only do it if everything else fails (non compliance, protests etc) and there will be people with guns forcing everyone to get a vaccine which comes with an RFID tracking chip by the way.

You can call it cowardice or whatever, but I ain't staying in my house waiting to get injected with poison like an animal. Running away would at least give me some hope of freedom. In fact, staying in your house and doing nothing would be admitting how powerless you are against the system.

hawk
22-09-2009, 08:39 PM
I ain't taking no shot and neither is my son. We'll go and hide ourselves if we have to.

danceswithbunnies
22-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Well, if this shit happens, they'll eventually come to your house and take you no matter how "quietly" non-compliant you are. That is why if it does start to happen, I'll quietly leave my house, get in my car and get the fuck out of the city and hide somewhere in the wilderness away from major highways until everything settles down.
I'm not saying I'll do it anyway. I'll only do it if everything else fails (non compliance, protests etc) and there will be people with guns forcing everyone to get a vaccine which comes with an RFID tracking chip by the way.

You can call it cowardice or whatever, but I ain't staying in my house waiting to get injected with poison like an animal. Running away would at least give me some hope of freedom. In fact, staying in your house and doing nothing would be admitting how powerless you are against the system.

You misunderstand.
Before they come to forcibley vaccinate me i do not cooperate them, in most matters i try to be as non obliging as possible.

IF they try to vaccinate me by force...i will make sure that everyone sees them shoot me in the street...because i don't love me life in a police state so much that i am afraid of losing it... and i am not going to run like a whipped dog.
Better to face them down and end my life on MY terms, defiant to the end..

pendulum
22-09-2009, 09:06 PM
You misunderstand!
I'm sorry man.

:)

starschildren
22-09-2009, 09:29 PM
Over my dead body would it happen to me or my family, we will never get the shot... and if I am going down for refusing it, I'm going to take as many of them with me to hell as possible.

If it actually comes to it, I take my son and my family, pack the horses and head for the mountains until it calms down a little and then south to some jungle in the middle of nowhere. And if we get caught, may whatever god they pray to help them. :mad:

illuminatiman
22-09-2009, 09:33 PM
Over my dead body would it happen to me or my family, we will never get the shot... and if I am going down for refusing it, I'm going to take as many of them with me to hell as possible.

If it actually comes to it, I take my son and my family, pack the horses and head for the mountains until it calms down a little and then south to some jungle in the middle of nowhere. And if we get caught, may whatever god they pray to help them. :mad:

The sheep will be queing round the block for their vaccinations and chips, crying save me save Obaaaaaaamaaaaa!! Ba ba :)

arty2000
22-09-2009, 10:12 PM
nope

cliffardimus
24-09-2009, 08:48 AM
I have never been to the UK, not for the lack of wanting.
UK being culturally more advanced than my stomping grounds, I have gathered that people will most actively protest against any sort of forced vaccination. I fear the response here will be somewhat different. Living in Knoxville TN., I am by no means a deep southerner nor am I a Yankee. Its a bit of a melting pot of the two. And to list a fairly typical home defense battery in perspective for those that are not farmiliar.
I am a Deer, Elk, Hog and Bird hunter so I have the requisite arms for those pursuits. Shotguns, Mid power Centerfire Rifles and Magnum caliber Rifles. What our Govt. understands and a good many subscribe to is the need of us average Joes to have weapons for when the shit hits the fan. Defensive weapons. Mind you I am not extreme, but somewhat average in my selection.
HK-91, 2- AR-15's 3000 rounds to feed those 2-SIG .40 Cal.'s, 1 Glock 21-.45 cal and one Custom shop .45 cal-1911. I reload for all of these and have 20 lbs of powder and thousands of bullets and primers for any continued conflict. I truly must thank our founding fathers for their foresight. I pray they never try to shove anything down our throat. I know that a peaceful powerful protest and soft power is whats needed. Sadly though it will all be determined by our Govt. response to the general refusal to accept their "Loving" guidance.
Absolutely nobody I know will be getting this "Jab" I can assure you. We do have our sheep here and thats a shame, but the rest of us will continue on.
I am non violent by nature, but if I feel someone is trying to hurt my family-they can expect nothing less than intense prolonged violence.
Thats the news from the Bunker!
Best wishes to all and good luck
through these strange times.
Cliff B. Knoxville, TN.

liltza
24-09-2009, 08:54 AM
I have never been to the UK, not for the lack of wanting.
UK being culturally more advanced than my stomping grounds, I have gathered that people will most actively protest against any sort of forced vaccination. I fear the response here will be somewhat different. Living in Knoxville TN., I am by no means a deep southerner nor am I a Yankee. Its a bit of a melting pot of the two. And to list a fairly typical home defense battery in perspective for those that are not farmiliar.
I am a Deer, Elk, Hog and Bird hunter so I have the requisite arms for those pursuits. Shotguns, Mid power Centerfire Rifles and Magnum caliber Rifles. What our Govt. understands and a good many subscribe to is the need of us average Joes to have weapons for when the shit hits the fan. Defensive weapons. Mind you I am not extreme, but somewhat average in my selection.
HK-91, 2- AR-15's 3000 rounds to feed those 2-SIG .40 Cal.'s, 1 Glock 21-.45 cal and one Custom shop .45 cal-1911. I reload for all of these and have 20 lbs of powder and thousands of bullets and primers for any continued conflict. I truly must thank our founding fathers for their foresight. I pray they never try to shove anything down our throat. I know that a peaceful powerful protest and soft power is whats needed. Sadly though it will all be determined by our Govt. response to the general refusal to accept their "Loving" guidance.
Absolutely nobody I know will be getting this "Jab" I can assure you. We do have our sheep here and thats a shame, but the rest of us will continue on.
I am non violent by nature, but if I feel someone is trying to hurt my family-they can expect nothing less than intense prolonged violence.
Thats the news from the Bunker!
Best wishes to all and good luck
through these strange times.
Cliff B. Knoxville, TN.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Can you be my body guard?

netta
24-09-2009, 09:34 AM
I honestly don't think Americans would obey if they were forced into something like this. There would be some resistance. I just know this by listening to other people talk. All the people I know say they will not take the H1N1 shot.

I think a lot of Americans have a feeling like something is up. They don't trust the government like they used to. They may not be on the David Icke forum, but there are a lot more aware people.

cliffardimus
24-09-2009, 05:47 PM
As I said above, people just dont trust the Govt.
Two minutes ago I heard on the news that a Federal Census worker was just found swinging by his neck in a rural part of Kentucky. He evidently knocked on the wrong door and got a one way ride to the Danial Boone National forest.
I very much enjoy the synchronicity of the awakening process, but not when it comes to something like this.
This guy only wanted to ask a few questions, how many live here etc.
Now Imagine this guy trying to stick a needle in someone!!!
I will be open season on dark sunglasses.
I am so glad to find you folks.
It has been hard to remove my blinders
with no guidance.
A wonderful resource with wonderful People:D:D

dolores1
24-09-2009, 07:50 PM
You misunderstand.
Before they come to forcibley vaccinate me i do not cooperate them, in most matters i try to be as non obliging as possible.

IF they try to vaccinate me by force...i will make sure that everyone sees them shoot me in the street...because i don't love me life in a police state so much that i am afraid of losing it... and i am not going to run like a whipped dog.
Better to face them down and end my life on MY terms, defiant to the end..

+2

dolores1
24-09-2009, 08:01 PM
I have never been to the UK, not for the lack of wanting.
UK being culturally more advanced than my stomping grounds, I have gathered that people will most actively protest against any sort of forced vaccination. I fear the response here will be somewhat different. Living in Knoxville TN., I am by no means a deep southerner nor am I a Yankee. Its a bit of a melting pot of the two. And to list a fairly typical home defense battery in perspective for those that are not farmiliar.
I am a Deer, Elk, Hog and Bird hunter so I have the requisite arms for those pursuits. Shotguns, Mid power Centerfire Rifles and Magnum caliber Rifles. What our Govt. understands and a good many subscribe to is the need of us average Joes to have weapons for when the shit hits the fan. Defensive weapons. Mind you I am not extreme, but somewhat average in my selection.
HK-91, 2- AR-15's 3000 rounds to feed those 2-SIG .40 Cal.'s, 1 Glock 21-.45 cal and one Custom shop .45 cal-1911. I reload for all of these and have 20 lbs of powder and thousands of bullets and primers for any continued conflict. I truly must thank our founding fathers for their foresight. I pray they never try to shove anything down our throat. I know that a peaceful powerful protest and soft power is whats needed. Sadly though it will all be determined by our Govt. response to the general refusal to accept their "Loving" guidance.
Absolutely nobody I know will be getting this "Jab" I can assure you. We do have our sheep here and thats a shame, but the rest of us will continue on.
I am non violent by nature, but if I feel someone is trying to hurt my family-they can expect nothing less than intense prolonged violence.
Thats the news from the Bunker!
Best wishes to all and good luck
through these strange times.
Cliff B. Knoxville, TN.

I think it is posted on the site but if not someone here will have the link for it. It is very good if you are in America.