Serious cramps!

[lightbeing]

Well had a painful experience while at the gym last night, I reckon I bombed out completely on energy!:eek:

Didn't feel 100% but thought I would go anyway, so started on the rowing machine, 2kms, went at it a bit too hard!:rolleyes: Got off feeling dizzy and sick, so had to lie down:(

5 min later did some back work on a machine that has your knees in a bent position level with your upper waist, then got cramp in both calf muscles which then went down to my feet and locked my toes up!:eek: The pain was fooking excruciating, nearly passed out twice!:eek: had to try and lie down then managed to ask some guy to stretch my legs!:o

I know that if you get bad cramps it is a deficiency in your diet, anybody got any ideas?
Cheers

[lydia78]

Well had a painful experience while at the gym last night, I reckon I bombed out completely on energy!:eek:

Didn't feel 100% but thought I would go anyway, so started on the rowing machine, 2kms, went at it a bit too hard!:rolleyes: Got off feeling dizzy and sick, so had to lie down:(

5 min later did some back work on a machine that has your knees in a bent position level with your upper waist, then got cramp in both calf muscles which then went down to my feet and locked my toes up!:eek: The pain was fooking excruciating, nearly passed out twice!:eek: had to try and lie down then managed to ask some guy to stretch my legs!:o

I know that if you get bad cramps it is a deficiency in your diet, anybody got any ideas?
Cheers


Aww Lightbeing hunny!!:)

How are you feeling now? Hope your feeling better.
My wee sister used to get this alot and I have had a few muscle spasm moments and dead arms during the night....muscles do weird things like immigration to the front of the calf....it's not nice, may you feel much better today.

My sis used to eat alot of salt, which created cramping in her legs at night, since she's cut back she hasn't had an incident.

Your experience also sounds like low blood sugar levels, if you felt faint, maybe uptake on fruit and fibre, stabilise it by eating small but regularly.

Anyway, here's old June, she'll take care of you,

http://www.jrussellshealth.org/cramps.html

She lists the causes of this problem and recommends minerals etc, to help.

:)

[lightbeing]

Thanks for your kind words lydia:)

Feeling pretty fooked today, my right calf feels like someone has beat the hell out of it!:( I can't walk properly on it, bit of a limp!
Never had such a bad time at the gym!:eek:
My 'awakening' is speeding up my perception of time, but now it seems to be ageing my body quicker as well!;)


Aww Lightbeing hunny!!:)

How are you feeling now? Hope your feeling better.
My wee sister used to get this alot and I have had a few muscle spasm moments and dead arms during the night....muscles do weird things like immigration to the front of the calf....it's not nice, may you feel much better today.

My sis used to eat alot of salt, which created cramping in her legs at night, since she's cut back she hasn't had an incident.

Your experience also sounds like low blood sugar levels, if you felt faint, maybe uptake on fruit and fibre, stabilise it by eating small but regularly.

Anyway, here's old June, she'll take care of you,

http://www.jrussellshealth.org/cramps.html

She lists the causes of this problem and recommends minerals etc, to help.

:)

[astraltraveller]

hello lightbeing , i was a serious bodybuilder for 8 years untill i became ill and did 5 days a week but i didnt have a problem with cramp as bad as you describe but i do have it bad now and it wakes me up some days and i just knoiw it depends on what i eat and i think ir has something to do with good salt and bad salt . read the threat about salt by garth and see if you think its rite for you . he reccomends taking sea salt and the best sea saly is celtic if you can get it , sea salt is totaly diffrent to table salt and cooking salt and i read a lack of sea salt can cause cramps . the info is in garths thread in a link to another site and it has awsome info on salt and the amaizing things sea salt can do for you .

all the best dude and i hope its just a simple seaq salt defficiency you have , if it isnt im sorry im out ideas .

[astraltraveller]

just thought i would mention that on tv they keep tellng us salt is bad and food contains too much and stuff in the supermarkets say reduced salt on it . well the food we have today just contains the wrong kind of salt and we need sea salt . the government are trying to dumb us down as you know and a lack of sea salt makes us dumbed down . sea salt makes us more inteligent because sea salt creates electrical conductivity in the brain at optimal levels and my theory is that it does the same for electrical conductivity on the muscles and proper electrical conductivity of the nerves in muscles will stop cramp , just my theory but it seems to make sense . anyway you will find all you need to know in garths thread called SALT GET IN IN YA .

[astraltraveller]

oh for christs sake ive done it again im sorry i meant to say in my first post that ive not got my hands on any sea salt yet and ive been to 3 places , my gran got me some but hasnt given me it yet , its like good salt is disapearing the someone whants us to only have the crap salt . sorry for posting 3 times but ive got someone in the room who can see im trying to work and keeps telling me useless info while she is being brainwashed by the tv and is trying to brainwash me with the same crap , i take no notice of tv and use my lappy in the same room . rite im definitly finnished this time aaarrgghhhh :)

[lookfar]

Well had a painful experience while at the gym last night, I reckon I bombed out completely on energy!:eek:

Didn't feel 100% but thought I would go anyway, so started on the rowing machine, 2kms, went at it a bit too hard!:rolleyes: Got off feeling dizzy and sick, so had to lie down:(

5 min later did some back work on a machine that has your knees in a bent position level with your upper waist, then got cramp in both calf muscles which then went down to my feet and locked my toes up!:eek: The pain was fooking excruciating, nearly passed out twice!:eek: had to try and lie down then managed to ask some guy to stretch my legs!:o

I know that if you get bad cramps it is a deficiency in your diet, anybody got any ideas?
Cheers

Aw LB, that's not good :( Hope you're feeling better soon.

If you're gonna get some Celtic Sea Salt, I found this place which seemed to be the cheapest in the UK...
http://www.regenerativenutrition.com//shop/product.asp?cookiecheck=yes&numCurrencyID=1&P_ID=379

Take care & sending lots of healing energy your way....:)

[lightbeing]

oh for christs sake ive done it again im sorry i meant to say in my first post that ive not got my hands on any sea salt yet and ive been to 3 places , my gran got me some but hasnt given me it yet , its like good salt is disapearing the someone whants us to only have the crap salt . sorry for posting 3 times but ive got someone in the room who can see im trying to work and keeps telling me useless info while she is being brainwashed by the tv and is trying to brainwash me with the same crap , i take no notice of tv and use my lappy in the same room . rite im definitly finnished this time aaarrgghhhh :)

Cheers for the info and good advice astral, I hear what you say:)

[lightbeing]

Aw LB, that's not good :( Hope you're feeling better soon.

If you're gonna get some Celtic Sea Salt, I found this place which seemed to be the cheapest in the UK...
http://www.regenerativenutrition.com//shop/product.asp?cookiecheck=yes&numCurrencyID=1&P_ID=379

Take care & sending lots of healing energy your way....:)

Thanks for that lookfar:) I'm now ok, at least I can walk without a limp!;)

[soglad]

Well had a painful experience while at the gym last night, I reckon I bombed out completely on energy!:eek:

Didn't feel 100% but thought I would go anyway, so started on the rowing machine, 2kms, went at it a bit too hard!:rolleyes: Got off feeling dizzy and sick, so had to lie down:(

5 min later did some back work on a machine that has your knees in a bent position level with your upper waist, then got cramp in both calf muscles which then went down to my feet and locked my toes up!:eek: The pain was fooking excruciating, nearly passed out twice!:eek: had to try and lie down then managed to ask some guy to stretch my legs!:o

I know that if you get bad cramps it is a deficiency in your diet, anybody got any ideas?
Cheers

To much sitting at the PC on the DI forums!

Trust me, could be hehe :D

[astraltraveller]

your most welcome lightbeing but true thanks goes to garth because i learned about good and bad salt from him and i learned somer wonderfull things from his post and hopefully when i get my sea salt i will stop being woken up by my calf muscles trying to cause me that horrifying pain that you got in the gym .

i hope to get well enough to start bodybuilding again , they were the best days of my life and i was so confident and healthy but i think it was bad for my ego because realy im just a peacefull loving person who doesnt like trouble but people assume because of your size you are some kinda monster or whatever thier preconspeptions are .

im not sure if your into mass or strength building or cardio or a combination of the latter lightbeing but whatever it is would you please allow me to recomend you what i believe are the best bodybuilding suppliments i have ever come across , ile go for it anyway because it might save you some money and give you awsome results and put things in your diet you mght need . this stuff is used by the pros , they realy do use it and dont just adverize it for money .


this is the real deal and me and my buddies have been building for years and tried everything , although i cant bodybuild at the moment they still do and have stuck with these products because they are the real shit and work and are not just about advertizing and selling false hope and junk to people .

http://www.animalpak.co.uk/?gclid=CLmup4bAlI4CFSFhgQodI3VIQw

all you need is animal pak vitamins and the liver tabblets and a good protein powder and an amino acid complex then bung it down ya neck with your usual diet . its just all my opinion but ive tried a lotta stuff and even roids and ive never come accross anything like animalpak stuff . too many sites sell stuff with a bunch of scientific crap and flashy adverts and fancy packaging . thiers no bull with animalpak .

[cruise4]

Its a killer when you get cramp bad. Sometimes I have to leap out of bed and walk about until it goes away. I haven't looked into this but the doctor gave me quinine tablets. But its related to food intake for sure. I'm prone to not eating until I absolutely have to and so don't eat enough. When this gets to a certain point cramps start happening. Just eating 'more' stops this with me. Maybe its just to do with energy burnout and not as 'specific' as one type of substance?

[astraltraveller]

i agree with you cruise4

i hardly have been eating for years and when i eat 2 or 3 times a day i dont get the cramp .

[lemonique]

Hi Lightbeing, Rest up and get a Magnesium supplement from the Supermarket.
You probably won't need a lot of Magnesium just one a day for a few days, then have one every 3 or 4 days or so.

Love
Lemonique

[lightbeing]

im not sure if your into mass or strength building or cardio or a combination of the latter lightbeing but whatever it is would you please allow me to recomend you what i believe are the best bodybuilding suppliments i have ever come across , ile go for it anyway because it might save you some money and give you awsome results and put things in your diet you mght need . this stuff is used by the pros , they realy do use it and dont just adverize it for money .



I just do cardio and light weights for definition and toning up, don't want to get any bigger, hit my ideal weight, 13 stone. (5ft 9")

It is strange, never had cramps like that before down the gym, hopefully not again!:eek:

[lightbeing]

Hi Lightbeing, Rest up and get a Magnesium supplement from the Supermarket.
You probably won't need a lot of Magnesium just one a day for a few days, then have one every 3 or 4 days or so.

Love
Lemonique

Thanks for that lemonique, will do:)

[lightbeing]

Its a killer when you get cramp bad. Sometimes I have to leap out of bed and walk about until it goes away. I haven't looked into this but the doctor gave me quinine tablets. But its related to food intake for sure. I'm prone to not eating until I absolutely have to and so don't eat enough. When this gets to a certain point cramps start happening. Just eating 'more' stops this with me. Maybe its just to do with energy burnout and not as 'specific' as one type of substance?

I couldn't walk at the time, fall to the floor was all I could do!:eek: I know I had total burnout on my energy, should have had my pasta like I normally would do!:rolleyes:

[indigo]

Could be a number of things. Drinking more water may help.http://www.medicinenet.com/muscle_cramps/page2.htm

[astraltraveller]

13 stone is good lightbeing , i think its a great weight to start getting ripped up on . i wish i had of done that but my buddy kept pushing me do build more mass and at the time i thought it was a great idea but on reflection it could have made me to big for my back to be able to handle it because i bet if i had of stuck at around 12 stone thn ripped up i might not have injured my back but i dunno why it whent realy , i cant realy blame someone else . my mum allways warned me my bones werent built to carry all that muscle . ive had years of pain and sickness and wish i never got into bodybuilding , i should have listned to her .

[lightbeing]

Could be a number of things. Drinking more water may help.http://www.medicinenet.com/muscle_cramps/page2.htm

I know I don't drink enough water, have to try harder.

[lightbeing]

13 stone is good lightbeing , i think its a great weight to start getting ripped up on . i wish i had of done that but my buddy kept pushing me do build more mass and at the time i thought it was a great idea but on reflection it could have made me to big for my back to be able to handle it because i bet if i had of stuck at around 12 stone thn ripped up i might not have injured my back but i dunno why it whent realy , i cant realy blame someone else . my mum allways warned me my bones werent built to carry all that muscle . ive had years of pain and sickness and wish i never got into bodybuilding , i should have listned to her .

Maybe you could just do cardio stuff, 6 months of intense running, rowing should reduce some of your mass you have built up in the past.

[astraltraveller]

i wish to god i could do that dude but im basicly now a cripple , i can only walk so far and at a snails pace . my back has gone and i have advanced neuropathy in both legs and feet and just climbing the stairs to get to my bedroom makes me think im gonna have a heart attack , my ticker beats like mad and i cant breath due to asthma . just one tabblet i had to take caused all this but ile soon be off it and the weight should start comming off and ive become a veggie but eat fish and im gonna get a juicer wich should help . just having a shower and trying to dress myself is so hard it nearly has me in tears of distress but i dont give up .

[lightbeing]

i wish to god i could do that dude but im basicly now a cripple , i can only walk so far and at a snails pace . my back has gone and i have advanced neuropathy in both legs and feet and just climbing the stairs to get to my bedroom makes me think im gonna have a heart attack , my ticker beats like mad and i cant breath due to asthma . just one tabblet i had to take caused all this but ile soon be off it and the weight should start comming off and ive become a veggie but eat fish and im gonna get a juicer wich should help . just having a shower and trying to dress myself is so hard it nearly has me in tears of distress but i dont give up .

Sorry about that man, hope your body starts to improve soon. Have you seen a chiropractor? A good one really can do wonders for your back.

[earthseed]

Has anyone told you to take calcium magnesium yet? This is a good product to try Natural Calm. My whole family and my dog is on it! We have bad cramps, back problems and restless leg. This will greatly decrease your problems. A lot of muscle/bone issues are from a lack of calcium magnesium in your diet. They aren't putting it in your food so you have to take it by itself to get any!


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[cruise4]

I drink loads of water... its definately not related to that with me.

[lightbeing]

Has anyone told you to take calcium magnesium yet? This is a good product to try Natural Calm. My whole family and my dog is on it! We have bad cramps, back problems and restless leg. This will greatly decrease your problems. A lot of muscle/bone issues are from a lack of calcium magnesium in your diet. They aren't putting it in your food so you have to take it by itself to get any!


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Lemonique said about that, but thanks anyway.:)

[astraltraveller]

thanks lightbeing . yes i have been to a chiropractor years ago and it was like i was walking on air afterwards but the effects would wear off and i would be back were i started . ive had accupuncture too and the doc said i have a chi blockage because i have a lot of numbness but his treatment didnt work iether , i dont know what the answer is . ive just had to accept i might have it for life . oh well ya gotta keep going havnt you and hope something comes along that will do the trick .

[cruise4]

There are people called 'Bone Setters' where the tradition is taught to a single member of the family at any one time and passed down through the ages. If you can find a good one... then they can perform some amazing feats. I have seen only one person treated in this way and it worked although she occasionally goes back.... so I'm no expert.

[astraltraveller]

thanks for your advice cruise4 i will look into this . ive had x-rays though and have been told thier is nothing wrong but what realy gets to me is thiers something very clearly wrong because the rite side of my hip tilts down and to the side and my rite shoulder hangs but that was due to a dislocation from lifting weights but anyway as soon as i walked into the accupunturists the doc observed me shuffle towards him and he smiled and said rite away i have a problem . ive even proved to an nhs doctor that one leg apears to be shorter than the other and my rite leg has atrofied muscle wich is obvious for anyone to see but he said it looked normal yet i had a drink with some freinds and one embarrased me and said one side of me looks bigger than the other and i already knew this so i know its blindingly obvious but nhs docs play dumb . ive even been refused rotator cuff surgery, i think they dont whant to help on purpose .

[cruise4]

Yes... there is great reluctance in the NHS to do all sorts of stuff. My brother kept pulling muscles in his chest and back area. He went to see all sort of people only matched by variety of diagnosis. I don't think most of them know what they are talking about except in very limited situations. They are reluctant to perform MRI scans, but X-Rays a plenty.

[astraltraveller]

i agree cruise4 , i have requested an MRI on numerous occations but have been fobbed off with reasons i cant have it . i know for a fact my sciatic nerve is impinged and if i could have MRI i would know what stretching exsersizes might free it or an op could take the pressure off of it perhaps .

i hope your brother has better luck than me at some point . i dont have chest trouble but all the way up my spine it feels like nerves get trapped and near my neck but i got an ebook for only $5 with stretches in that now enables me to sleep withought back ache waiking me and i get less impingment in the spine and neck . i wish i knew about this book before i was put on painkillers because my life has been ruined by them .

[megafish33]

Start with sleeping eight hours, drinking only water (for a period of time), and find a superior post-workout supplement.

Have you seen a physician? See an osteopathic doctor, or an MD that is trained in osteopathy. See a chiropractor. See an exercise physiologist.

Maybe it's inflammation? Do you supplement your diet with EFAs? Look for one with high amounts of DHA. Or you can try a krill oil formula. TwinLabs has many good ones.

Zyflamend (http://www.new-chapter.com/product/product.lasso?-Search=Action&-Table=P_Web&-Database=NewChapter&-KeyValue=108)

Raw strawberries (I think) have many naturally occurring salicylates... if you aren't allergic, maybe try to include them in a smoothy so sorts pre-during-or post workout.

Hope you feel better!

Oh ya (duh!), try epsom salt baths nights after workout days, that might help!

[astraltraveller]

thanks megafish

for taking the trouble to give me your sdvice . ive tried most of what you say though to no avail . i apreciate your time though .