Reptilians in the Bible

[amethyst]

Yes, you read that right...

There WERE reppies in scripture, in ancient days.

If you don't believe me, look it up. It's in every version of the Bible.

And these individuals were HUGE:eek: :D


GIANTS!

What had happened was, God had told the Israelites, that when you come into the land, that you are to destroy all these races of GIANT people. Mean ole God said to DESTROY all these races of giant people?

Yes, because they were descendants of the NEPHILIM race. They were seeds of entities other than humans entirely, and they would eventually wipe out all of the human race if they were not destroyed.

Drastic measures had to be taken.


An entire race of giants mentioned in the Bible

NEPHILIM

• Race of “renown heros” resulting from the sexual mixing of angels (sons of
God) with human women (Gen 6:2)

• “Heros” in Gen 6:2 were not necessarily good people

• Nephilim were “heros” in the same sense that Goliath was called a “hero” of the
Philistines (1 Sam 17:51)

• This resulted in offspring of exceptional size and strength (Num 13:33)

• This giant race aggravated the exceptional wickedness of men living before the
flood and was a factor in God’s decision to “wipe mankind from the face of the
earth” by a flood (Gen 6:5-7)

• Angels continued siring Nephilim with human women even after the flood
(Gen 6:4) which explains why descendants of the Nephilim resided in Canaan

• According to Jude, Enoch son of Jared, before the flood, in the 7th generation
following Adam, stood firm against an explosion of wickedness among men that
led to angelic intervention (Jude 14-15)

• Since the sort of wickedness to which Jude refers required angelic intervention,
it may well have concerned the Nephilim

Other races of Giants:


REPHAITES or REPHAIM or DESCENDANTS OF RAPHA

• Initially referred to descendants of an individual giant named Rapha, and then
became general term for several giant clans living in the region of Canaan

• Rephaites were Nephilim because the Anakites (a clan of Rephaites) are
identified as Nephilim (Num 13:33)

• Rephaite clans included the Anakim, the Emim, the Zamzummim, the Horites,
and the Avvites

• Were in the region of Canaan during Abraham’s day (Gen 15:20)

• Several Rephaite clans were defeated by King Chedorlaomer in Abraham’s day
(Gen 14:5-6)

• Og, King of Bashan, is identified as the last individual “remnant of the
Rephaites” (Deut 3:11). But since other giants after Og are also referred to as
Rephaites, this reference most likely means that Og was the last

Numbers 13:33:

"There we saw the giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight."

So, who were these GIANTS, these REPTILIANS descendants of Anak?

ANAKITES or ANAKIM or SONS OF ANAK

• Were Rephaites (Deut 2:11) meaning they were giants descended from Rapha,
a subgroup descended from the Nephilim

• Were giants descended from the Nephlim (Num 13:33)

• Were “people of great size” (Num 13:32)

• Were “stronger and taller” than regular people (Deut 1:28; 9:2)

• Were all descendants of a giant named Arba (Josh 15:13; 21:11)

• Were descendants of a giant named Anak who lived in southern Canaan
(Num 13:22,28)

How many GIANTS were there?

THOUSANDS! :eek:

12 individual named giants mentioned in the Bible



RAPHA
• Early ancestor of all the giant clans in what became the region of Palestine,
which included the Anakites, Emites, and Horites (Deut 2:10-12; 2 Sam
21:16,18,20,22; 1 Chron 20:4,6,8)

ANAK
• Father of a clan of giants living southern Cannaan (Num 13:28)

ARBA
• Forefather of Anak and the Anakim (Josh 15:13; 21:11)

• Honored as “the greatest man among the Anakites” (Josh 14:15)

• The Anakite name for Hebron was Kiriath-Arba meaning “City of Arba”
(Josh 15:13)

SEPHER
• Because Debir was an Anakite city like Hebron (Josh 11:21), and because the
former Anakite name for Debir was Kiriath-Sepher meaning “City of Sepher,”
it must be that Sepher was the name of another Anakite patriarch like Arba
(Josh 15:15)

OG
• The king of Bashan identified as the last of “the Rephaites” (Deut 3:11)

• Since other giants after Og are also Rephaites, the reference most likely means
that Og was the last pure blooded (100%) giant sired by an angel mixing with a
human woman (see explanation of the Nephilim)

• Bashan where Og ruled is in the region of Mount Hermon, and that according to
the book of Enoch is where angels sired the Nephilim

• Og is the largest giant mentioned in the Bible—his bed was 13.5 feet long
meaning Og was himself about 13 feet tall (Deut 3:11)

• Og with his army attacked the Israelites east of the Jordan in a battle at Edrei
while they were still commanded by Moses (Deut 3:1-11)

• Og was defeated and killed and his territory was assigned to the half-tribe of
Manasseh

AHIMAN
• A descendant of Arba and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba (later named Hebron)
when Israel invaded Canaan (Num 13:22)

• One of 3 giants driven out of Hebron by Caleb (Josh 15:14; Jdg 1:10,20)
2

SHESHAI
• A descendant of Arba and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba (later named Hebron)
when Israel invaded Canaan (Num 13:22)

• One of 3 giants driven out of Hebron by Caleb (Josh 15:14; Jdg 1:10,20)

TALMAI
• A descendant of Arba and Anak who lived in Kiriath-Arba (later named Hebron)
when Israel invaded Canaan (Num 13:22)

• One of 3 giants driven out of Hebron by Caleb (Josh 15:14; Jdg 1:10,20)

GOLIATH

• The “champion” of the Philistine army opposing the Israelites under Saul
(1 Sam 17:4)

• Was 9 feet tall, wore armor weighing 125 pounds, and spearhead weighed 15
pounds (1 Sam 17:4-7)

• Was descended from the Anakim giants whom Joshua allowed to survive in
Gaza, Gath, and Ashdod (Josh 11:22)

LAHMI
• One of the giants living in Gath

• The brother of Goliath

• Was killed by one of David’s men named Elhanan son of Jair

• Used a spear of similar size to one used by Goliath (1 Chron 20:5; 2 Sam 21:19)

ISHBI-BENOB
• One of the giants living in Gath with the Philistines in southern Canaan

• Was killed by David’s nephew Abishai, son of David’s sister Zeruiah, who
rescued David when this giant went after David during a battle between the
Philistines and Israelites (2 Sam 21:15-17,22)

• Used a spearhead weighing 7.5 pounds (2 Sam 21:16) which was merely half the
size of Goliath’s spearhead

SAPH also called SIPPAI

• One of the giants subjugated by the Philistines in southern Canaan

• Another giant who lived with the Philistines in Gath

• Was killed by one of David’s men named Sibbachai the Hushathite (1 Chron 20:4,8; 2 Sam 21:18,22)


One GIANT mentioned in scripture had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot (2 Sam 21:20-22; 1 Chron 20:6-8)

http://www.richlandcreek.com/Brochures/Giants%20in%20the%20Bible.pdf


So, basically, they were many, many of these creatures who were actually here living on planet earth, and eventually would try to take over planet earth had they not been stopped by the Israelites.

Unfortunately, the Israelites did not destroy all of them.

And now, they have been genetically modified down to normal "human" looking size.

They are what Icke calls the REPTILIANS because they do not derive from human beings, but from races of angelic FALLEN beings who do not like us and want to eradicate human beings off the planet.


Why ELSE do we have our skies and our waters and our food and everything else POISONED and polluted????

Why ELSE is there a systemic plan to reduce the population of the world down to a "manageable" size?

Why else do you have entities that whisper in peoples ears and get them to do all sort of atrocities that would not even enter into their minds to do???

Why ELSE do you have individuals who take innocent children and mind control them and make them virtual slaves to do whatever they want with them?


It's all because of the REPTILIAN AGENDA whom God the Creator had said to eradicate originally.

The Israelites did not not FINISH the job!

Will this be the generation that actually DOES FINISH THE JOB???

That is for the human race to decide. That's what is has always been about.

THE GREAT COSMIC BATTLE.

Scripture says we humans will win.

Who's side do YOU want to be on?

[tannah]

Sitchin traced the Nephilim back to Sumaria. That's where the original creation myth was found, as well as the flood myth. What's your take on that?

[manxboz]

Sitchin has been proven wrong and challegen many times but refuses to talk. Whats your take on that?

[amethyst]

Sitchin traced the Nephilim back to Sumaria. That's where the original creation myth was found, as well as the flood myth. What's your take on that?

They same REPTILIANS mentioned by the SUMERIANS are the SAME REPTILIANS mentioned IN THE BIBLE

Except that, the SUMERIAN version is from the ANNUNAKI'S point of view

Whereas, the BIBLICAL version is from God's point of view

The SUMERIAN version paints the REPTILES in a better light, than does scripture

You have to spiritually sniff it out...

You will basically KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT

Are they REALLY our friends, the alien/reptilians?

Or, are they REALLY our enemies?

What is the GREATEST CON that has been played on humanity?

You do the math.

[jojo]

an interesting read amethyst. athough i do not agree with some of it, other parts are food for thought as it were.
I have wondered about the giant race of nepholim, who they were, where they went and are they coming back? :eek:

thanks for posting

[danceswithbunnies]

Okay...this is going to sound out there..

There are different levels of consciousness, like the collective unconscious, as well as other dimensions...and i believe the levels of consciousness and dimensions may be linked.

In the bible it talks about Rephaim...they dwell in the DEEPS under the water..

Okay Job 26:5 and proverbs 9:18...talks about them and is translated "dead"..
sometimes translated GIANTS..

It is my opinion that these things aren't physical giants...but giant consciousness that project themselves down unto physical reality...like a 3-d shadow.
If you have read flatland where the sphere appears as a circle on a plane...it is analogical...they are from the deep waters..(deeper dimensions)

[amethyst]

an interesting read amethyst. athough i do not agree with some of it, other parts are food for thought as it were.
I have wondered about the giant race of nepholim, who they were, where they went and are they coming back? :eek:

thanks for posting

Hi Jojo, once you look into the research, you can start to connect the dots about aliens, the annunaki, the bible stuff, and why they are all interlinked.

They aren't coming back though. They are already here. :eek::D

They've had thousands of years to perfect their genetic cloning techniques, so that they can replicate human looking individuals, that may or may not be human ....at all.

That's why you can't tell who is and who isn't a reptilian. Even scripture says that. It's in parable of the wheat and the tares. You are not supposed to uproot them, because you might be uprooting a good (wheat) instead of a (tare). God will do the uprooting.

And we've all been tainted with their poison in varying degrees. That's where sin comes from IMO.....before the (darkness/sin) entered into man, humans were perfect in every way and lived in harmony with nature, animals, the earth.

It's no surprise that Satan was called a serpent (a reptilian being)......if you consider it.

[tannah]

Sitchin has been proven wrong and challegen many times but refuses to talk. Whats your take on that?

Haven't heard of this proof that he was wrong. I'll see if I can seek it out, unless you can recommmend a link.

[amethyst]

Okay...this is going to sound out there..

There are different levels of consciousness, like the collective unconscious, as well as other dimensions...and i believe the levels of consciousness and dimensions may be linked.

In the bible it talks about Rephaim...they dwell in the DEEPS under the water..

Okay Job 26:5 and proverbs 9:18...talks about them and is translated "dead"..
sometimes translated GIANTS..

It is my opinion that these things aren't physical giants...but giant consciousness that project themselves down unto physical reality...like a 3-d shadow.
If you have read flatland where the sphere appears as a circle on a plane...it is analogical...they are from the deep waters..(deeper dimensions)

Well, when the israelites called themselves "grasshoppers" compared to these GIANTS, I thingk they were talking about individuals who were really huge!

There is a lot of (supressed and some not suppressed) archeological artifacts pointing to evidence of very large beings on the planet, sometime in history.

But your theory is interesting nonetheless.

[tannah]

It's no surprise that Satan was called a serpent (a reptilian being)......if you consider it.

Still, Moses raising a snake up in the desert to heal his people makes you wonder who the reptilians may have been, no? Would they be cunning enough to have infiltrated the bible as well? I've suspected for a number of years that
the bible has been compromised. The atrocites in Exodus make more sense if the God that did them was a alien reptilian, don't you think? As does the raising of the snake later on.

I also tend to agree with DWB about the symbolic angles regarding these giants.

[amethyst]

How scripture describes these races of beings:

5 clans of giants mentioned in the Bible

ANAKITES or ANAKIM or SONS OF ANAK

• Were Rephaites (Deut 2:11) meaning they were giants descended from Rapha,

a subgroup descended from the Nephilim

• Were giants descended from the Nephlim (Num 13:33)

• Were “people of great size” (Num 13:32)

• Were “stronger and taller” than regular people (Deut 1:28; 9:2)

• Were all descendants of a giant named Arba (Josh 15:13; 21:11)

• Were descendants of a giant named Anak who lived in southern Canaan
(Num 13:22,28)
4

EMITES or EMIM

• Described as “strong and numerous” and “tall as the Anakites” (Deut 2:10)

• Were Rephaites (Gen 14:5; Deut 2:11) meaning they were giants descended
from Rapha, a subgroup descended from the Nephilim

• Lived east of the Jordan river in a region of Moab (Gen 14:5; Deut 2:11)

• Were defeated in Abraham’s day by King Chedorlaomer (Gen 14:5)

ZAMZUMMITES or ZAMZUMMIM or ZUZITES or ZUZIM

• Described as “strong and numerous” and “tall as the Anakites” (Deut 2:21)

• Were Rephaites (Gen 14:5; Deut 2:20) meaning they were giants descended
from Rapha, a subgroup descended from the Nephilim

• Lived east of the Jordan river in the region of the Ammonites (Deut 2:20)

• Were defeated in Abraham’s day by King Chedorlaomer (Gen 14:5)

• Were later destroyed by the Ammonites (Deut 2:21)


HORITES

• Were Rephaites (Gen 14:5-6) meaning they were giants descended from
Rapha, a subgroup descended from the Nephilim

• Lived in the “hill country of Seir” (Gen 14:6; Deut 2:12) a region of Edom

• Were defeated in Abraham’s day by King Chedorlaomer (Gen 14:5-6)

• Were later destroyed by “the descendants of Esau,” the Edomites (Deut 2:12,22)

AVVITES

• Mentioned only once at the end of a list of Rephaites (Deut 2:23)

• Lived in the coast land of southern Canaan in villages near Gaza (Deut 2:23)

• Were destroyed and replaced by the Caphtorites (ancestors of the Philistines who
arrived from the island of Cypress/Caphtor)

Regions where giants lived:


The “region of Argob” in Bashan ruled by Og the giant king (Deut 3:4)

Anakites were scattered throughout the “hill country of Judah and Israel” (Josh 11:21)

The main Anakite centers were the cities of Hebron (formerly Kiriath-Arba), Debir
(formerly Kiriath-Sepher), and Anab in the hill country of Judah (Josh 11:21)

Some Anakites also lived in the coastal plain region with the Philistines in the cities of
Gaza, Gath and Ashdod (Josh 11:22)

Emim lived east of the Jordan river in a region of Moab (Gen 14:5; Deut 2:11)

Zamzummim lived east of the Jordan river in the region of the Ammonites (Deut 2:20)

Horites lived below the Dead Sea in the “hill country of Seir” (Gen 14:6; Deut 2:12) a
region of Edom

Avvites lived in the coast land of southern Canaan in villages near Gaza (Deut 2:23)

The place where a coalition of eastern kings led by Chedorloamer, king of Elam (in the
region of Persia) defeated the combined armies of several giant clans was named Shaveh-
Kiriathaim (Wasteland of Kiriathaim). This place is a valley located in the high plain
above the Arnon River east of the Dead Sea in the region of Moab (Gen 14:5)

[size_of_light]

Fascinating info, amethyst.

The names are very useful when researching etymology.

[amethyst]

How the clans of giant were related:

Arba was the “forefather of Anak,” the patriarch of the Anakim clan (Josh 15:13; 21:11)

Anakim were descended from the Nephilim (Num 13:33)

Rapha was the early ancestor of all the giant clans living throughout the region of what
became Palestine. Giant clans descended from Rapha were referred to as Rephaites and
included the Anakites, the Emites, the Zamzummites, the Horites, and the Avvites (Gen
14:5-6; Deut 2:10-12,23; 2 Sam 21:16,18,20,22; 1 Chron 20:4,6,8)


Since the Anakites were giants descended both from Rapha (Deut 2:10-11) and the
Nephilim (Num 13:33), that means all Rephaites (descendants of Rapha) were descended
from the Nephilim. The Nephilim were the original giants (Gen 6:4)

NEPHILM
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RAPHA
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REPHAITES-----
-------(EMITES)
-------(ZAMZUMMITES)
-------(HORITES)
-------(AVVITES)





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ARBA
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ANAK
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ANAKITES

http://www.richlandcreek.com/Brochures/Giants%20in%20the%20Bible.pdf

[amethyst]

Fascinating info, amethyst.

The names are very useful when researching etymology.

Glad you like it Solly :)

[manxboz]

Here is one website about the flaws in Sitchins work http://sitchiniswrong.com/

[nicolaj]

really interesting thread amythst thanks for starting it..something we can all help each other with hopefully.

have you ever heard that hitlers scientist who where working on the master race..after the war moved over to america to continue their work.
I read this somewhere once and cant think where it was.

[amethyst]

really interesting thread amythst thanks for starting it..something we can all help each other with hopefully.

have you ever heard that hitlers scientist who where working on the master race..after the war moved over to america to continue their work.
I read this somewhere once and cant think where it was.

I think I've read a little about this. I can't remember where either. I guessing that's why they were doing all those nefarious experiments.

[nicolaj]

I think I've read a little about this. I can't remember where either. I guessing that's why they were doing all those nefarious experiments.

Im sure they where and its still continuing today with us.

[amethyst]

Im sure they where and its still continuing today with us.

Yeah, I think the aliens and reptilians are one in the same....although scripture (and also eyewitnesses) say they have some that are kept in the bowels of the earth.......to be released at a certain time. (Rev 9:3)

I find it interesting that in scripture, Satan is refered to as a SERPENT but also a DRAGON (a reptilian type of being)

[nicolaj]

Yeah, I think the aliens and reptilians are one in the same....although scripture (and also eyewitnesses) say they have some that are kept in the bowels of the earth.......to be released at a certain time. (Rev 9:3)

I find it interesting that in scripture, Satan is refered to as a SERPENT but also a DRAGON (a reptilian type of being)


most definatly we are dealing with something horrendos..

I posted this is another thread..

Daniel 2:


41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

after the last Roman empire we understand the next kingdom to come will be the last before Christs return ..this kingdon is the feet and toes of the golden staute of Nebuchadnezzar ...look what is is telling us it is made of iron and mire clay mixed together but this kingdom will not gel ....humans are the miry clay..we where made from earth..so the iron is imo demonic. they are more powerful than us. also in verse 43..Daniel tells us quite clearly what ever it is..it is going to mix its self with the seed of man..there is nothing else that this could mean..this is a world kingdom of mixed humans and demons. We know from both Daniel and Revelation this kingdom will not last ..because Jesus steps in before all should die. Daniel is told to seal up these words..he doesnt even understand them himself..God tells him when the time is right..the meaning of this message would be understand by his people.
I believe that time is now..we are in this kingdom already.

[amethyst]

most definatly we are dealing with something horrendos..

I posted this is another thread..

Daniel 2:


41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

after the last Roman empire we understand the next kingdom to come will be the last before Christs return ..this kingdon is the feet and toes of the golden staute of Nebuchadnezzar ...look what is is telling us it is made of iron and mire clay mixed together but this kingdom will not gel ....humans are the miry clay..we where made from earth..so the iron is imo demonic. they are more powerful than us. also in verse 43..Daniel tells us quite clearly what ever it is..it is going to mix its self with the seed of man..there is nothing else that this could mean..this is a world kingdom of mixed humans and demons. We know from both Daniel and Revelation this kingdom will not last ..because Jesus steps in before all should die. Daniel is told to seal up these words..he doesnt even understand them himself..God tells him when the time is right..the meaning of this message would be understand by his people.
I believe that time is now..we are in this kingdom already.

That's a good scripture reference...I think it applies well to the topic.

The reptilian's "seed" mixing with human "seed" or clay, as the scripture you mentioned in Daniel sighted.

And of course, something "alien" or foreign wasn't supposed to "mix" with human DNA....thus the GIANTS were born, an aberration of some kind. And obviously, they also had superhuman strength. That's why everyone was afraid and intimidated by them.

(Daniel 2:43) they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

That's pretty much telling it like it is, and what really happened.

Hey nicolaj, what's you take on how "sin" darkness, came into the human character?

Are you familiar with the serpent Satan, seducing Eve (literally, not just figuratively) in the garden of Eden, producing a specific "race" that came from Cain? The nephilim were probably just copying what he did. They probably figured, it worked for him, it will work for us contaminating the human race.

We know how churches have gotten all those "bible story" interpretations totally wrong.....but that was probably by design. Satan has always infiltrated the "churches" to spead lies and disinformation.

[nicolaj]

That's a good scripture reference...I think it applies well to the topic.

The reptilian's "seed" mixing with human "seed" or clay, as the scripture you mentioned in Daniel sighted.

And of course, something "alien" or foreign wasn't supposed to "mix" with human DNA....thus the GIANTS were born, an aberration of some kind. And obviously, they also had superhuman strength. That's why everyone was afraid and intimidated by them.



That's pretty much telling it like it is, and what really happened.

Hey nicolaj, what's you take on how "sin" darkness, came into the human character?

Are you familiar with the serpent Satan, seducing Eve (literally, not just figuratively) in the garden of Eden, producing a specific "race" that came from Cain? The nephilim were probably just copying what he did. They probably figured, it worked for him, it will work for us contaminating the human race.

We know how churches have gotten all those "bible story" interpretations totally wrong.....but that was probably by design. Satan has always infiltrated the "churches" to spead lies and disinformation.

strangely I was going to mention this to you..I have read a little about it..and have thought this myself, there was most certainly something wrong with Cain besides him being a murderer, God allowed him to live but would not continue his blood for Jesus..but Seth.
God asked the Israelits not to mix their blood with Clans that came from Cain.

The vatican have known this knowlege for sure imo considering their statement not so long back about alien life..etc

[amethyst]

strangely I was going to mention this to you..I have read a little about it..and have thought this myself, there was most certainly something wrong with Cain besides him being a murderer, God allowed him to live but would not continue his blood for Jesus..but Seth.
God asked the Israelits not to mix their blood with Clans that came from Cain.

The vatican have known this knowlege for sure imo considering their statement not so long back about alien life..etc

I came across this link that was really informative:

WHAT WAS THE REAL SIN IN THE GARDEN?

http://www.biblestudysite.com/realsin.htm

Came across these videos:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


Also found this video:

(The True Sin In The Garden) - YouTube

[manxboz]

I have marked about 11 different times that Giants are mentioned in the Bible, yes they are probaly desendents of reptillians.

But i believe Eve had to be suduce by Satan for us to be brought into the world.

[nicolaj]

Thanks for those Amethyst I've read about it..look foreward to watching those tonight.

manxbox interesting, I think possibly she mated with satan and adam..different bloodlines..

don't you think adam was father to any of their children?

[manxboz]

Yes i believe Adam fathered children with Eve but i believe that Satan may have tricked Eve and inpreganted her without her knowledge but we'll never know untill The Lord reveals the truth to us.

[zero1]

I find it hilarious that everyone assumes the Serpent / Dragon mythos from the Bible must be interpreted as diabolical evil, opposed to God.

I find the more blame for all man's woes everyone puts on Satan, the more sympathetic I become towards him; surely no being could be as ABSURDLY evil as the sad, pathetic humans make Satan/Lucifer out to be. It's just nonsense; the greatest scapegoat for human inadequacy and failings ever invented does not make a credible 'adversary of God' for me; but maybe I'm too attached to reason and logic to understand the common Christian idea...

The blood of God (Christs blood) may well have been passed through the Dragon-Serpent line, if one understands what Dragon / Serpent represents (royal lineage), and interprets the Grail myth accordingly.

"Giants" appear in every mythos, even the Irish (Firbolg), there were, as the Bible says, 'Giants in those days' but when read esoterically it also means of the intellect, you see; giants of the intellect, creators, artificers, builder, Masons.

References to Cain in the Bible concern the vampiric condition, Cain was the first vampire, read it different ways it also concerns technology (Cain was a metal-worker; his complex gifts, ie. machines, did not please God as much as Abel's simple foodstuffs of the land, so Cain got pissed off and killed him).

[amethyst]

If you view the videos (that last one I posted goes into it) it talks about how a woman can become pregnant from two serperate men....according to scripture, Cain was born and then Able. They were twins, but from two separate "fathers"

One 'father" of Cain, was the serpent, THE reptilian dude, Satan

And the other was from Adams own gene pool, Able

What Satan was trying to do I believe, was to try and thwart God's plan for the human race, right from the beginning....introducing his own "seed" into the DNA gene pool....along with those pesky nephilim stinkers....

That's why God was upset with Eve....she let herself be seduced by Satan...but apparently, he was pretty hard to resist because he was so shiningly beautiful.....

It's no wonder though, that Cain was the bible's first recorded murderer.

He had his father Satan's nature. Makes sense when you think about it.

There must have been some kind of sin "residue" left over in Eve from Satan (perhaps?), since there is a propensity to also want to do evil at times, as well as good...just a speculation, but something to consider

[amethyst]

I find it hilarious that everyone assumes the Serpent / Dragon mythos from the Bible must be interpreted as diabolical evil, opposed to God.

I find the more blame for all man's woes everyone puts on Satan, the more sympathetic I become towards him; surely no being could be as ABSURDLY evil as the sad, pathetic humans make Satan/Lucifer out to be. It's just nonsense; the greatest scapegoat for human inadequacy and failings ever invented does not make a credible 'adversary of God' for me; but maybe I'm too attached to reason and logic to understand the common Christian idea...

The blood of God (Christs blood) may well have been passed through the Dragon-Serpent line, if one understands what Dragon / Serpent represents (royal lineage), and interprets the Grail myth accordingly.

"Giants" appear in every mythos, even the Irish (Firbolg), there were, as the Bible says, 'Giants in those days' but when read esoterically it also means of the intellect, you see; giants of the intellect, creators, artificers, builder, Masons.

References to Cain in the Bible concern the vampiric condition, Cain was the first vampire, read it different ways it also concerns technology (Cain was a metal-worker; his complex gifts, ie. machines, did not please God as much as Abel's simple foodstuffs of the land, so Cain got pissed off and killed him).

Zero, you're an intelligent guy...did you view the videos? Read the literature I posted in the first posts? It goes into how there really were GIANTS that the true Israelites (not the fake impostor Khazar ones) fought in biblical history.

The Serpent bloodline is just that ....it cames from THE FIRST SERPENT, SATAN....get it?

Those royals love the serpy.

Christ's blood IS NOT the serpent's blood...it's Satan's blood

Christ came from the line of ADAM...there are TWO SEPERATE lines we are talking about here

[zero1]

If you view the videos (that last one I posted goes into it) it talks about how a woman can become pregnant from two serperate men....according to scripture, Cain was born and then Able. They were twins, but from two separate "fathers"

One 'father" of Cain, was the serpent, THE reptilian dude, Satan

And the other was from Adams own gene pool, Able

What Satan was trying to do I believe, was to try and thwart God's plan for the human race, right from the beginning....introducing his own "seed" into the DNA gene pool....along with those pesky nephilim stinkers....

That's why God was upset with Eve....she let herself be seduced by Satan...but apparently, he was pretty hard to resist because he was so shiningly beautiful.....

It's no wonder though, that Cain was the bible's first recorded murderer.

He had his father Satan's nature. Makes sense when you think about it.

There must have been some kind of sin "residue" left over in Eve from Satan (perhaps?), since there is a propensity to also want to do evil at times, as well as good...just a speculation, but something to consider

Yes, so Cain is the Son of Satan by Eve; who hasn't heard that one before in these circles? But the Bible does not say Eve got it on with Satan and bore Cain as the fruit of that union, does it? No. So where is that idea coming from?

Anyway, given an opportunity to fuck the Mother-of-All-Living, wouldn't you?

I would.

Supposedly Cain got it on with momma Eve too and produced some more nasty fuckers outta that.

Amethyst, you are a woman; do you seriously think this "sin residue" business is something you want to be promoting in the interests of your sex?

Do you really think God is still pissed off hundreds of thousands of years later because your divine ancestress Eve may have had a bit of nookie with a fallen angel?

Honestly...

[amethyst]

Yes, so Cain is the Son of Satan by Eve; who hasn't heard that one before in these circles? But the Bible does not say Eve got it on with Satan and bore Cain as the fruit of that union, does it? No. So where is that idea coming from?

Anyway, given an opportunity to fuck the Mother-of-All-Living, wouldn't you?

I would.

Supposedly Cain got it on with momma Eve too and produced some more nasty fuckers outta that.

Amethyst, you are a woman; do you seriously think this "sin residue" business is something you want to be promoting in the interests of your sex?

Do you really think God is still pissed off hundreds of thousands of years later because your divine ancestress Eve may have had a bit of nookie with a fallen angel?

Honestly...

Zero, read the article and then view the videos I posted....they're pretty compelling IMO....

Did you read my previous post about the twins?.....Cain and Able were twins...Cain was born first and then later, Able....two seperate "fathers"

No, I don't personally think God is still pissed off thousands of yrs. later...

God dealt with the sin issue HIMSELF, by offering Himself manifested in the flesh as CHRIST for ALL sin.

God loved Adam and Eve and still does...they're with Him right now in the heavenly dimension....remember, they were made in His image and likeness

[zero1]

Zero, read the article and then view the videos I posted....they're pretty compelling IMO....

Did you read my previous post about the twins?.....Cain and Able were twins...Cain was born first and then later, Able....two seperate "fathers"

No, I don't personally think God is still pissed off thousands of yrs. later...

God dealt with the sin issue HIMSELF, by offering Himself manifested in the flesh as CHRIST for ALL sin.

God loved Adam and Eve and still does...they're with Him right now in the heavenly dimension....remember, they were made in His image and likeness

I read the article, I don't know why you assume I didn't. I will make time to view all the videos.

I know the Greek OT and various other sources including some Jewish ones say the Serpent was the father of Cain. That's not at issue; but often I view things through the lens of Catholicism by force of habit, and the Cain story pans out a bit differently in that tradition / interpretation.

I am glad you realize Christ redeemed all sin-debt; of course you would. You are strong in faith, Amethyst, I know that.

[amethyst]

I read the article, I don't know why you assume I didn't. I will make time to view all the videos.

I know the Greek OT and various other sources including some Jewish ones say the Serpent was the father of Cain. That's not at issue; but often I view things through the lens of Catholicism by force of habit, and the Cain story pans out a bit differently in that tradition / interpretation.

I am glad you realize Christ redeemed all sin-debt; of course you would. You are strong in faith, Amethyst, I know that.

I understand....I know those coming from the Catholic background have a really difficult time breaking out of that mindset....especially when they've been terrorized all through the years...I've heard some horror stories...(just so everyone knows...not knocking individual person's who embrace the finer qualities of their beliefs)

[amethyst]

Good video on the NEPHILIM

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[miracles]

Of note that Cain being first born and Able being the second born is a type of Born again doctrine IE God rejects the first born and accepts the second born. Which signifies our need to be born again becuase we are rejected by God until we do so. The second birth of course being spiritual through faith in Christ as saviour. The last Adam Christ is accepted, where as the first Adam was cast out. In our natural Body we are in still the first Adam.

This is the first one of many examples where God rejected the first born and blessed the second born.

Having said that, Ickes nephalim theories are fatally flawed, as all of these so called blood lines where destroyed in the flood and was the main reason for the flood. I do however agree with Ickes theories that the powers that be are possed by demonic forces after satanic rituals. I dont concur that these people are descended from nepahlim bloodlines though.

[amethyst]

Of note that Cain being first born and Able being the second born is a type of Born again doctrine IE God rejects the first born and accepts the second born. Which signifies our need to be born again becuase we are rejected by God until we do so. The second birth of course being spiritual through faith in Christ as saviour. The last Adam Christ is accepted, where as the second Adam was cast out. In our natural Body we are in still the first Adam.

This is the first one of many example where Giod rejected the first born and blessed the second born.

Having said that, Ickes nephalim theories are fatally flawed, as all of these so called blood lines where destroyed in the flood and was the main reason for the flood. I do however agree with Ickes theories that the powers that be are possed by demonic forces after satanic rituals. I dont concur that these people are descended from nepahlim bloodlines though.

You have a point, but check out the video miracles. It might surprise you.

Something more than just eating an apple happened in the garden...you have let go of your pre-concieved paradigms that "sunday school" might have taught you....

[biblegirl]

If you view the videos (that last one I posted goes into it) it talks about how a woman can become pregnant from two serperate men....according to scripture, Cain was born and then Able. They were twins, but from two separate "fathers"

One 'father" of Cain, was the serpent, THE reptilian dude, Satan

And the other was from Adams own gene pool, Able


can you point me to the reference for this?

[miracles]

You have a point, but check out the video miracles. It might surprise you.

Something more than just eating an apple happened in the garden...you have let go of your pre-concieved paradigms that "sunday school" might have taught you....
Funny.

I cant open that video link. is it on Your tube?

[nicolaj]

Of note that Cain being first born and Able being the second born is a type of Born again doctrine IE God rejects the first born and accepts the second born. Which signifies our need to be born again becuase we are rejected by God until we do so. The second birth of course being spiritual through faith in Christ as saviour. The last Adam Christ is accepted, where as the first Adam was cast out. In our natural Body we are in still the first Adam.

This is the first one of many examples where God rejected the first born and blessed the second born.

Having said that, Ickes nephalim theories are fatally flawed, as all of these so called blood lines where destroyed in the flood and was the main reason for the flood. I do however agree with Ickes theories that the powers that be are possed by demonic forces after satanic rituals. I dont concur that these people are descended from nepahlim bloodlines though.

very true same with Issac/Ishmael and Jacob/Esau, would like to discuss that also in more detail it's very interesting and telling.
I believe most were destroyed in the flood but it tells us that some where still present after the flood also.

Gen 6:4 The N'filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.


This can only mean imo that either some of these nephilim escaped the flood or someone else on that ark was not or pure human blood. Or other experiments/tampering with humans where done by fallen angles after the flood.

We know that Noah was pure because of his bloodline up to Christ. But it doesnt tell us everyone else was on that ark was, others must have been for that bloodline to continue.
Today I believe many of us must have some of the nephilim blood in us or had our dna changed, but it makes no difference because Christ accomplished power over satan on earth.
God warned the Israelits not to marry into these bloodline but they did.

Yes I agree these behind the scene rulers are in leauge with satan and other fallen angles, and when the time is right we will indeed have satan himself sitting on the throne of Gods in Israel or a short time. Their bloodline, it's possible but so are most humans on earth contaminated with it also to some extent imo.

[nicolaj]

I really enjoyed the forth video amethyst, maybe because I'd come to that conclusion quite a while back..lol

It's right Jesus really does make a very clear distinction between those born of God and those bore of satan.
They believe they are the Children of Abraham..when in fact Jesus tells them they are not.
I believe this is connection here in the book of Revelation and they are still in the world today..

Rev 2:9 "I know how you are suffering and how poor you are (though in fact you are rich!), and I know the insults of those who call themselves Jews but aren't — on the contrary, they are a synagogue of the Adversary.

Rev 2:10 Don't be afraid of what you are about to suffer. Look, the Adversary is going to have some of you thrown in prison, in order to put you to the test; and you will face an ordeal for ten days. Remain faithful, even to the point of death; and I will give you life as your crown.


Rev 3:9 Here, I will give you some from the synagogue of the Adversary, those who call themselves Jews but aren't — on the contrary, they are lying — see, I will cause them to come and prostrate themselves at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you.

Jesus mentions them twice to the churchs in the book Revelation these people who call themselves Jews are not..The scribes etc believed they where Jews, but where not, only Abrahams seed are true Jews.

These so called Jews infentrated the church right from the begining of it..just like we are told in scripture here are a few and some of the warnings.


2 Peter 2:1-2: "But there will also be false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves."

In Mt.7:15-16, Jesus says "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits

Acts 20:29, Paul said to the Ephesian elders "For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock"

Eph.4:14, Paul says that a sure sign of spiritual immaturity is "tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting."

I believe the elite who run this world from behind the stage are not Abrahams seed even though they call themselves Jews to the world, they are the seed of satan..this is the same bloodline that opposed and plotted Jesus' death.

You might be interested in this link..Chuck Missiler a Christian Preacher who goes into some detail about the nephilim..it's a bible study in 12 parts..i've only added the first part but you will be able to find the rest on the side of that page.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCk4VMTGme4

[zero1]

I understand....I know those coming from the Catholic background have a really difficult time breaking out of that mindset....especially when they've been terrorized all through the years...I've heard some horror stories...(just so everyone knows...not knocking individual person's who embrace the finer qualities of their beliefs)

Yes well I take the bits of it that I like and dump the rest. I'll bow out now, thanks for responding, good thread.

[amethyst]

Yes well I take the bits of it that I like and dump the rest. I'll bow out now, thanks for responding, good thread.

Whatever works for you ;) What exactly are you bowing out of? The discussion?

[amethyst]

can you point me to the reference for this?

Sorry Biblegirl...didn't see you post....

Did you mean the scriptural references?

I know the gentleman in the last video I posted (The True Sin in the Garden) mentioned the term "superfecundation" which is the fertilization of two or more ova from the same cycle by sperm from separate acts of sexual intercourse. The term is also sometimes used to refer to the instances of two different males fathering fraternal twins"

[zero1]

Whatever works for you ;) What exactly are you bowing out of? The discussion?

Yes. I don't feel I contributed as constructively as I would have liked on this thread. I got emotional; that's always a mistake.

Pretty sure I'm going the Hell for the remark about fucking the Mother-of-all-Living, but hey, I was probably bound there anyways, so...

I'm still subscribed to the discussion though, will read any futher posts on here about Reptilians in the Bible. I find it fascinating.

Love & Light to you, Amethyst.

[amethyst]

Funny.

I cant open that video link. is it on Your tube?

You mean The Nephilim video? It's on youtube...but there are a lot of them under the same name...I thought the one I posted was particularly good.

here it is again:

The Nephilim (Shared by darrellmellissa) - YouTube

[amethyst]

Yes. I don't feel I contributed as constructively as I would have liked on this thread. I got emotional; that's always a mistake.

Pretty sure I'm going the Hell for the remark about fucking the Mother-of-all-Living, but hey, I was probably bound there anyways, so...

I'm still subscribed to the discussion though, will read any futher posts on here about Reptilians in the Bible. I find it fascinating.

Love & Light to you, Amethyst.

No you're not! That's the catholic guilt speaking dude! God is a LOT more forgiving than that...way, way, way more forgiving!

That's the LIE that Satan has always done through RELIGION...that God is going to condemn you and that you can never be good enough and that you aren't worthy....

But Christ NEVER came into the world to condemn the world, ( look that up...it's in the scriptures) but through Him one might have their relationship RESTORED with God that was cut off because of sin...

When Satan introduced sin into the world, THIS is what caused death and dieing...He's the biggest, fattest LIAR going! HE wants us all to die! God, on the other hand wants us all to LIVE! ETERNALLY!

God NEVER wanted this to be!

Christ said "I come that you might have life, and have it MORE ABUNDANTLY!" (John 10:10)

God is for you dude! He's not against you!

[zero1]

No you're not! That's the catholic guilt speaking dude! God is a LOT more forgiving than that...way, way, way more forgiving!

That's the LIE that Satan has always done through RELIGION...that God is going to condemn you and that you can never be good enough and that you aren't worthy....

But Christ NEVER came into the world to condemn the world, ( look that up...it's in the scriptures) but through Him one might have their relationship RESTORED with God that was cut off because of sin...

When Satan introduced sin into the world, THIS is what caused death and dieing...He's the biggest, fattest LIAR going! HE wants us all to die! God, on the other hand wants us all to LIVE! ETERNALLY!

God NEVER wanted this to be!

Christ said "I come that you might have life, and have it MORE ABUNDANTLY!" (John 10:10)

God is for you dude! He's not against you!

I guess so. I hope so. :)

[amethyst]

I guess so. I hope so. :)

Know what? You don't have to guess. You can be absolutely certain. You just have to get real, real honest with God and tell Him what's on your heart.

You can even get mad at Him. He's big enough. He can take it. He knows when you are being sincere with Him and when you are trying to pull stuff over on him.....

He will NEVER turn away a sincere heart who truely wants to know the truth and truely wants to get real with him. NEVER!

He LOVES YOU, more than you could ever understand and comprehend!

Spend some quiet time with your heavenly Father ;)

[nicolaj]

Know what? You don't have to guess. You can be absolutely certain. You just have to get real, real honest with God and tell Him what's on your heart.

You can even get mad at Him. He's big enough. He can take it. He knows when you are being sincere with Him and when you are trying to pull stuff over on him.....

He will NEVER turn away a sincere heart who truely wants to know the truth and truely wants to get real with him. NEVER!

He LOVES YOU, more than you could ever understand and comprehend!

Spend some quiet time with your heavenly Father ;)

how very true

[biblegirl]

Sorry Biblegirl...didn't see you post....

Did you mean the scriptural references?

I know the gentleman in the last video I posted (The True Sin in the Garden) mentioned the term "superfecundation" which is the fertilization of two or more ova from the same cycle by sperm from separate acts of sexual intercourse. The term is also sometimes used to refer to the instances of two different males fathering fraternal twins"

yeah were there scriptural references to the child having separate fathers?

[zero1]

Know what? You don't have to guess. You can be absolutely certain. You just have to get real, real honest with God and tell Him what's on your heart.

You can even get mad at Him. He's big enough. He can take it. He knows when you are being sincere with Him and when you are trying to pull stuff over on him.....

He will NEVER turn away a sincere heart who truely wants to know the truth and truely wants to get real with him. NEVER!

He LOVES YOU, more than you could ever understand and comprehend!

Spend some quiet time with your heavenly Father ;)

I'll have a chat so. Sure it'll all be alright. :)

[chrysoprase]

In 2007 I heard Steven Quayle on Coast to Coast talk radio talking about giants. At that time I really didn't know squat about the bible; but what he said really captured me.. because in the 1980's I had one vision and one dream and they both had giants in them. And I never knew what to make of that, I just tucked it away for future reference.

But after hearing that radio show, I had to read more about it, it was the first time I had heard someone say anything about giants as if they were real. And that's when I found out about the Fallen Angels, Nephiliem, Reptilians, corruped DNA and all the rest. So I am kind of new to this subject (and what the bible says about it).

But the dream and the vision are kind of interesting; so here goes:

In the dream I was in high school and I cut class, because there was this strange museum across the street and I wanted to see what was in it.

Inside the first room were glass exhibits filled with bones. They were the bones of giants, covered in red dirt. I looked at these and then moved on into the next room. There was this guy with red hair and he was sweeping the floor with a broom. In the floor was a vault. I asked him what was in there and he just smiled proudly. He asked me if I wanted to see something else and I said OK.

He took me into this room and there was a girl in a glass booth. She was naked and just standing there. She was about 10 ft tall. I couldn't tell if she was aware or comatose or dead and stuffed.

The guy with the red hair bragged and told me that they had just caught her. He showed me the fishnet they caught her with. I looked at her again and saw a tear going down her face and that's when I knew she was alive. And then, right before I woke up I realized that I was looking at myself.

Because of the fishnet and some other symbols in the dream I took it as a warning not to go to this certain place. But, within a month, I was drunk and I tempted fate and I met this red haired guy in real life. But that is another story for another time. Also - just last year I did a genealogy search on myself and I traced a bloodline back to the Annunaki. That's why I think that I and many besides me, have the seeds of evil and corrupted genes within us. That it has become inherent in mankind.

Then, in the same time period as this dream; I had a vision.

I was in a tremendous amount of physical pain (again, another story). I was doubled up in pain and begged God to take my life. I couldn't take it anymore and told God that I thought I had done enough in this life. Then I kind of blacked out from the pain and I felt someone (I think it was an Native American Indian) take my hand. I could see nothing but a black sky filled with stars. The man who had my hand started to talk to me.

He said that at one time the Sioux Indians were a happy, peaceful tribe. I was immediately swooshing through trees and time and I found myself within a tribe (I will do a snip and cut here for post brevity)....

We were then attacked by Giants. It was brutal and bloody and I thought I was going to die from fear because my heart was beating so fast. And, in fact my vision was then paused and the voice asked me if I was ready to go on, we stopped and started a few times because I was unable to see something. It was like I would die from just seeing it. It was when a Giant had his hand on my shoulder, whatever happened, I was spared from seeing.

(Also, I was told that prior to the attack, this Sioux tribe had never even known what men were capable to doing to each other. This bloodshed and violence was not in their existence or language). During this attack, most of them had been slaughtered, but the ones who survived carried such a scar in their hearts (it was a crescent shaped scar) - that the scar would live on in their descendents for generations to come.

So, I believe all this stuff about giants and reptilians. I really, really do. And I think some of us carry a scar or genetic memory of our past.

Has anyone seen this picture of a giant from a Malaysian newspaper?"

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/malaysian-report-12-ft-giant


Maybe they are here.

[kidsarocker]

Yes, you read that right...

There WERE reppies in scripture, in ancient days.

If you don't believe me, look it up. It's in every version of the Bible.

And these individuals were HUGE:eek: :D


GIANTS!

What had happened was, God had told the Israelites, that when you come into the land, that you are to destroy all these races of GIANT people. Mean ole God said to DESTROY all these races of giant people?

Yes, because they were descendants of the NEPHILIM race. They were seeds of entities other than humans entirely, and they would eventually wipe out all of the human race if they were not destroyed.

Drastic measures had to be taken.


An entire race of giants mentioned in the Bible



Other races of Giants:



Numbers 13:33:



So, who were these GIANTS, these REPTILIANS descendants of Anak?


How many GIANTS were there?

THOUSANDS! :eek:

12 individual named giants mentioned in the Bible



One GIANT mentioned in scripture had 6 fingers on each hand and 6 toes on each foot (2 Sam 21:20-22; 1 Chron 20:6-8)

http://www.richlandcreek.com/Brochures/Giants%20in%20the%20Bible.pdf


So, basically, they were many, many of these creatures who were actually here living on planet earth, and eventually would try to take over planet earth had they not been stopped by the Israelites.

Unfortunately, the Israelites did not destroy all of them.

And now, they have been genetically modified down to normal "human" looking size.

They are what Icke calls the REPTILIANS because they do not derive from human beings, but from races of angelic FALLEN beings who do not like us and want to eradicate human beings off the planet.


Why ELSE do we have our skies and our waters and our food and everything else POISONED and polluted????

Why ELSE is there a systemic plan to reduce the population of the world down to a "manageable" size?

Why else do you have entities that whisper in peoples ears and get them to do all sort of atrocities that would not even enter into their minds to do???

Why ELSE do you have individuals who take innocent children and mind control them and make them virtual slaves to do whatever they want with them?


It's all because of the REPTILIAN AGENDA whom God the Creator had said to eradicate originally.

The Israelites did not not FINISH the job!

Will this be the generation that actually DOES FINISH THE JOB???

That is for the human race to decide. That's what is has always been about.

THE GREAT COSMIC BATTLE.

Scripture says we humans will win.

Who's side do YOU want to be on?

According to Islam, the reptilians are Jinn and have the ability to shapeshift. Not all Jinn are bad only the ones who cross dimensions and communicate with the Elite.

[biblegirl]

In 2007 I heard Steven Quayle on Coast to Coast talk radio talking about giants. At that time I really didn't know squat about the bible; but what he said really captured me.. because in the 1980's I had one vision and one dream and they both had giants in them. And I never knew what to make of that, I just tucked it away for future reference.

But after hearing that radio show, I had to read more about it, it was the first time I had heard someone say anything about giants as if they were real. And that's when I found out about the Fallen Angels, Nephiliem, Reptilians, corruped DNA and all the rest. So I am kind of new to this subject (and what the bible says about it).

But the dream and the vision are kind of interesting; so here goes:

In the dream I was in high school and I cut class, because there was this strange museum across the street and I wanted to see what was in it.

Inside the first room were glass exhibits filled with bones. They were the bones of giants, covered in red dirt. I looked at these and then moved on into the next room. There was this guy with red hair and he was sweeping the floor with a broom. In the floor was a vault. I asked him what was in there and he just smiled proudly. He asked me if I wanted to see something else and I said OK.

He took me into this room and there was a girl in a glass booth. She was naked and just standing there. She was about 10 ft tall. I couldn't tell if she was aware or comatose or dead and stuffed.

The guy with the red hair bragged and told me that they had just caught her. He showed me the fishnet they caught her with. I looked at her again and saw a tear going down her face and that's when I knew she was alive. And then, right before I woke up I realized that I was looking at myself.

Because of the fishnet and some other symbols in the dream I took it as a warning not to go to this certain place. But, within a month, I was drunk and I tempted fate and I met this red haired guy in real life. But that is another story for another time. Also - just last year I did a genealogy search on myself and I traced a bloodline back to the Annunaki. That's why I think that I and many besides me, have the seeds of evil and corrupted genes within us. That it has become inherent in mankind.

Then, in the same time period as this dream; I had a vision.

I was in a tremendous amount of physical pain (again, another story). I was doubled up in pain and begged God to take my life. I couldn't take it anymore and told God that I thought I had done enough in this life. Then I kind of blacked out from the pain and I felt someone (I think it was an Native American Indian) take my hand. I could see nothing but a black sky filled with stars. The man who had my hand started to talk to me.

He said that at one time the Sioux Indians were a happy, peaceful tribe. I was immediately swooshing through trees and time and I found myself within a tribe (I will do a snip and cut here for post brevity)....

We were then attacked by Giants. It was brutal and bloody and I thought I was going to die from fear because my heart was beating so fast. And, in fact my vision was then paused and the voice asked me if I was ready to go on, we stopped and started a few times because I was unable to see something. It was like I would die from just seeing it. It was when a Giant had his hand on my shoulder, whatever happened, I was spared from seeing.

(Also, I was told that prior to the attack, this Sioux tribe had never even known what men were capable to doing to each other. This bloodshed and violence was not in their existence or language). During this attack, most of them had been slaughtered, but the ones who survived carried such a scar in their hearts (it was a crescent shaped scar) - that the scar would live on in their descendents for generations to come.

So, I believe all this stuff about giants and reptilians. I really, really do. And I think some of us carry a scar or genetic memory of our past.

Has anyone seen this picture of a giant from a Malaysian newspaper?"

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/malaysian-report-12-ft-giant


Maybe they are here.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/malaysian-giant-photo/424281-1-eng-US/Malaysian-Giant-Photo.jpg
A resident of Kampung Sri Cempaka, Ahmad Sachari was the first person who witnessed this weird figure one night near his home in Kampung (village) Sri Cempaka but it quickly disappeared. "When I was at the garbage dump disposing garbage I saw it when I lift my head. It just stood there and it emitted multiple sounds but I can't understand what it was trying to say, just like many sounds pile up in a stack. "

Another Chinese man, Cheong from Subang also saw this weird figure...."it appeared to be roughly 12 feet tall and had 2 legs but many heads." Cheong recounted his response "it looked not frigntening at all, like a very gentle giant."

"When I first saw it talking, the voices seemed to originate from different heads at the same time but gave me a feeling of being friendly," he added. (He took a photo of this figure with his cellphone). The local police authorities would investigate this case and urged the residents to remain calm and not to jump to any conclusion. "We cannot confirm what this weird figure is," a spokesman for the police said.

"We do not believe it is a threat to humans and on contrary we could attempt to communicate with it. " There were reports that the police would work with the local UFO investigators. Meanwhile, the police proposed that residents be not alarmed and to keep in contact with family and close friends and to follow the newspapers or TV reports for further updates.http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/malaysian-report-12-ft-giant

thanks for sharing all that, that was very interesting! yeah steve quayle is the best authority on giants as far as i can tell

giants were my main subject of study for a few years, and there is so much about that subject that is mindblowing....as far as native americans are concerned, i heard a story from them about a race of terrible giants, so big and so fierce that they could rip a leg off a buffalo in mid-stride without stopping! they were six fingered, and the indians feared them greatly...which is apparently where they get the indian greeting we learn in school where we hold up our hand: the purpose was to count the fingers on the strangers hand to see if they are one of them

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:p-JZizw8nFpfDM:http://www.eventurestudio.com/eventuresites/136/img/upload/HHRHow1Web.jpg

[chrysoprase]

i heard a story from them about a race of terrible giants, so big and so fierce that they could rip a leg off a buffalo in mid-stride without stopping! they were six fingered, and the indians feared them greatly...which is apparently where they get the indian greeting we learn in school where we hold up our hand: the purpose was to count the fingers on the strangers hand to see if they are one of them


That made me laugh. What a good way to identify yourself!

After the process of writing down the Sioux vision; I came to the conclusion that what happened is that this one tribe was pure, but - besides the slaughtering, what also happened was a corruption within their own gene pool. And that was what was meant by the scar carried into their descendants.

[biblegirl]

Quayle was later joined by an anonymous pilot who claimed to have transported a dead giant, shot by the military, while stationed in Afghanistan. He estimated that the creature was "12 feet tall, give or take" and "around 1,100 pounds." The pilot noted that the being had six fingers on each hand and its feet were adorned with "rudimentary shoes" made of canvas. According to what his superiors told him, the giant body was eventually "transloaded back to a base in Ohio."
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2008/12/03

this is another coast to coast, and consistent with the biblical account of six fingered giants

[amethyst]

According to Islam, the reptilians are Jinn and have the ability to shapeshift. Not all Jinn are bad only the ones who cross dimensions and communicate with the Elite.

In Islam, do they believe in good angels and fallen angels? The fallen angels are the reptilians..that fell to earth...or rather, got cast to earth because of their "sin" of rebellion.......is this the same as the Jinn, that some are good and some are bad?

[amethyst]

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/malaysian-giant-photo/424281-1-eng-US/Malaysian-Giant-Photo.jpg
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/article/malaysian-report-12-ft-giant

thanks for sharing all that, that was very interesting! yeah steve quayle is the best authority on giants as far as i can tell

giants were my main subject of study for a few years, and there is so much about that subject that is mindblowing....as far as native americans are concerned, i heard a story from them about a race of terrible giants, so big and so fierce that they could rip a leg off a buffalo in mid-stride without stopping! they were six fingered, and the indians feared them greatly...which is apparently where they get the indian greeting we learn in school where we hold up our hand: the purpose was to count the fingers on the strangers hand to see if they are one of them

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:p-JZizw8nFpfDM:http://www.eventurestudio.com/eventuresites/136/img/upload/HHRHow1Web.jpg

That's very interesting. According to that video on The Nephilim, it states that the nephilim came and infiltrated all the ancient tribes....the American Indian tribes, the Mayans, Incas, .....ancient peoples all over the world. That's why you can see evidence of it in the artifacts- the ones that haven't been locked away in vaults in the Smithsonian.

[mountain]

Amethyst, very interesting stuff here. :)

There are indeed some shady happenings in the Bible that I myself have come across, especially the Ezekial and Job books are very telling to me. There seems to be many references to space vehicles of some kind, too.

[amethyst]

Amethyst, very interesting stuff here. :)

There are indeed some shady happenings in the Bible that I myself have come across, especially the Ezekial and Job books are very telling to me. There seems to be many references to space vehicles of some kind, too.

Syncronicity Mountain :) I was just posting about topic this in another thread.

[nicolaj]

Descendants of Cain

In closing, we note the fact that Cain seems to have engendered his own tradition, as evidenced in a strange Gnostic sect called the Cainites. Like the Carpocrateans, the Cainites believed that no one could be saved except by "making the journey through everything." Epiphanius describes them as a group "consecrating... lustful or illegal acts to various heavenly beings" as a sort of sacrament. Interestingly, many scholars compare them to... Satanists.

Thee extent to which the Merovingians knew of these alternate traditions is uncertain. Whether or not they believed in them is more uncertain still, yet it remains likely that they both knew about these traditions and took them quite seriously. To this very day, the coat of arms of the capital of the Merovingian empire, Stenay, bears an image of the devil. And the original name of Stenay was "Satanicum."

http://www.thevesselofgod.com/luciferschildren.html

__________________________________________________ __________

Gen 4:13 And Cain said to the Lord: My iniquity is greater than that I may deserve pardon.

Gen 4:14 Behold thou dost cast me out this day from the face of the earth, and from thy face I shall be hid, and I shall be a vagabond and a fugitive on the earth: every one therefore that findeth me, shall kill me.

Gen 4:15 And the Lord said to him: No, it shall not so be: but whosoever shall kill Cain, shall be punished sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, that whosoever found him should not kill him.

Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the face of the Lord, and dwelt as a fugitive on the earth at the east side of Eden.

Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived, and brought forth Henoch: and he built a city, and called the name thereof by the name of his son Henoch.

Mason Meaning and Definition
(n.) A member of the fraternity of Freemasons. See Freemason.
(n.) One whose occupation is to build with stone or brick; also, one who prepares stone for building purposes.
(v. t.) To build stonework or brickwork about, under, in, over, etc.; to construct by masons; -- with a prepositional suffix; as, to mason up a well or terrace; to mason in a kettle or boiler.

Cain first builder in the bible...:D

[amethyst]

Descendants of Cain

In closing, we note the fact that Cain seems to have engendered his own tradition, as evidenced in a strange Gnostic sect called the Cainites. Like the Carpocrateans, the Cainites believed that no one could be saved except by "making the journey through everything." Epiphanius describes them as a group "consecrating... lustful or illegal acts to various heavenly beings" as a sort of sacrament. Interestingly, many scholars compare them to... Satanists.

Thee extent to which the Merovingians knew of these alternate traditions is uncertain. Whether or not they believed in them is more uncertain still, yet it remains likely that they both knew about these traditions and took them quite seriously. To this very day, the coat of arms of the capital of the Merovingian empire, Stenay, bears an image of the devil. And the original name of Stenay was "Satanicum."

http://www.thevesselofgod.com/luciferschildren.html

__________________________________________________ __________

Gen 4:13 And Cain said to the Lord: My iniquity is greater than that I may deserve pardon.

Gen 4:14 Behold thou dost cast me out this day from the face of the earth, and from thy face I shall be hid, and I shall be a vagabond and a fugitive on the earth: every one therefore that findeth me, shall kill me.

Gen 4:15 And the Lord said to him: No, it shall not so be: but whosoever shall kill Cain, shall be punished sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, that whosoever found him should not kill him.

Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the face of the Lord, and dwelt as a fugitive on the earth at the east side of Eden.

Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived, and brought forth Henoch: and he built a city, and called the name thereof by the name of his son Henoch.

Mason Meaning and Definition
(n.) A member of the fraternity of Freemasons. See Freemason.
(n.) One whose occupation is to build with stone or brick; also, one who prepares stone for building purposes.
(v. t.) To build stonework or brickwork about, under, in, over, etc.; to construct by masons; -- with a prepositional suffix; as, to mason up a well or terrace; to mason in a kettle or boiler.

Cain first builder in the bible...:D

And Cain was the first MURDERER in scripture.....Hmmm, builder, murderer....I wonder where these concepts come from...

I am reading your link...very interesting....

[nicolaj]

And Cain was the first MURDERER in scripture.....Hmmm, builder, murderer....I wonder where these concepts come from...

I am reading your link...very interesting....

we can see why they call themselves the freemasons now..:D

[dknomed]

I believe the Nephilim to be the Fallen Angels or the Sons of the Fallen Angels

as for the Sub Tribes

Emim
Anaki
Raphiem

i believe the anaki to be those Reptile creatures

the Raphiem, not sure what they were, but i think they are the Necromancers, or Sorcerors of the group

its interesting to note that the Pentagram is a lower level Demonic symbol, less to the greater, Hexagram symbol

there is a book called A Dictionary of Angels and Demons, and all the demons have and or are associated with the Hexagram symbol

as for the Emim, maybe just a Giant's or Titan's only War group

Whoever these "aliens" are, i believe them to be sons or daughters, really to me a sub group or Sub slave race to the Fallen Angels

I still could be wrong, this is my best guess

ohh yeah

on Gad

Jacob before he died he said those Curses would befall all the 12 tribes of Israel in the Last days

you have to note that 1000 years is one day, to "GOD" or god of the hebrews

i forget what was said, it has something to do with Christ Coming back on the third day or it would translate into 3000 years

but not alot of people know that 2000 years would mark the awakening or self realization of israelites, or israelites coming to know who they are

on the 3000 year thing, it could be true but its also interesting to not

that when he COMES, we will be in the THIRD DAY

so it means 2010 if he comes, right then and there its the third day or 2011 or 2012 ect ect ect

anyway back to gad

"a troop shall overcome you, but you shall overcome in the end"

Troop meaning, United States Calvary

"you shall overcome in the end" meaning, United States will end as a country

or it could mean, the Indian Reservations, i think its the reservations

also

how many Indians were United or Together, after the Defeat of Custard?

some say 100 million, i think it was 20 to 30 million

anyway, if Indians believed in Guns, and killing people off

there would not be a united states as we know it

they would have killed every foreigner, in there eyes, or purged them all from the land IF

IF they had Believed in Guns

but you know Indians, Peaceful people, Very Spiritual peoples

its also interesting to note, that they had Shamans, which Purged Evil Spirits from the land

[nicolaj]

http://www.piney.com/Cain.html

Schaff wrote:

The Cainites boasted of the descent from Cain the fratricide, and made him their leader. They regarded the God of the Jews and Creator of the world as a positively evil being, whom to resist is virtue. Hence they turned the history of salvation upside down, and honored all the infamous characters of the Old and New Testaments from Cain to Judas as spiritual men and martyrs to truth.

Judas Iscariot alone among the apostles had the secret of true knowledge, and betrayed the psychic Messiah with good intent to destroy the empire of the evil God of the Jews.

Origen speaks of a branch of the Ophites, who were as great enemies of Jesus as the heathen Celsus, and who admitted none into their society who had not first cursed his name. But the majority seem to have acknowledged the goodness of Jesus and the benefit of his crucifixion brought about by the far-sighted wisdom of Judas. A book entitled "the Gospel of Judas" was circulated among them.

No wonder that such blasphemous travesty of the Bible history, and such predilection for the serpent and his seed was connected with the most unbridled antinomianism, which changed vice into virtue. They thought it a necessary part of "perfect knowledge" to have a complete experience of all sins, including even unnamable vices.

1. Others again declare that Cain derived his being from the Power above, and acknowledge that Esau, Korah, the Sodomites, and all such persons, are related to themselves.


I found this interesting..

Rechabite

member of a conservative, ascetic Israelite sect that was named for Rechab, the father of Jehonadab. Jehonadab was an ally of Jehu, a 9th-century-bc king of Israel, and a zealous antagonist against the worshippers of Baal, a Canaanite fertility deity. Though of obscure origin, the Rechabites apparently were related to the Kenites, according to I Chron. 2:55, a tribe eventually absorbed into Judah in the 10th century BC.

The Rechabites were separatists who refused to participate in agricultural pursuits, drink wine, or engage in other practices associated with the Canaanites. Believing that the semi-nomadic way of life was a religious obligation, they herded their flocks over much of Israel and Judah. They were fervent followers of Yahweh, the God of Israel, and are best known for their connection with the slaughter of the worshippers of Baal during the revolt led by Jehu. According to later Jewish tradition, the Rechabites intermarried with the Levites, the priestly class.

the same Levites who called for Christs death?..

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

.................................................. .........

[nicolaj]

Thought you might find this interesting Amethyst.

same like what we are saying.


The Difference Between Fallen Angels, Demons,
Aliens, Jedi, and the Watchers

By Sherry Shriner


There are groups of fallen angels competing for global dominance and control within the Third Faction of the New World Order.

These are the games they play. One group plays as good shepherds claiming to want to help mankind while they kidnap, mutilate, implant, impregnate, and use human body parts as a skin rejuvenation and coloring maintenance technique.

The other faction plays as protectors and basic non-interventionists, the good cop/bad cop strategy. We all know that when someone says they aren't in your business that that is exactly what they are into. Both of these factions seek to destroy and dominate earth, setting up the path and reign of Satan, also known as the Antichrist. Of course, they will not tell you who he really is, he will play the role of Ascended Master, Wise one, Great Teacher, Peacemaker, Messiah, a great world leader, or whatever else they can sell to a gullible population of earthlings.

There are two factions or groups within the Annunaki, known as the Enki and the Enlil.

The Enki faction of the Anunnaki

Includes but not limited to:

• Greys from Zeta Reticulum (small greys with the oversized heads who like to mutilate and experiment on humans), also includes Tall Greys (from Orion),

• Reptilians (Earth based), Lizards. These are notably in charge of establishing a one world government through our political leaders. Shape-shift into human form and also use humans as hosts to possess and work through.

• Draco-Reptilians from Orion, the ones really running the show while the others do their bidding. It is the Dracos who are the rulers over the greys and the reptilians. (There are some who believe the Nordic humanoids are Reptilians in disguise). The draco's are shape-shifters, they are annunaki - lizard, they are the ones coming on Planet X (Rahab). The Draconians are red dragons. Lucifer himself lost his once held beauty and was turned into an ugly red dragon. The Reptilians (lizards), greys, and others are all classes of what we call aliens, but were once beautiful angels.

• Annunaki - those who joined in Lucifer's rebellion against the Lord.

-and the Enki faction of the Anunnaki, also draconian, inhabitants of Rahab, (giant humanoids from their home planet Nibiru, a group of them stayed on earth while the others allegedly left to return sometime soon).

These are the ones who seek to harm and destroy mankind, and will do so, as they rule and dominant the earth with Satan and the New World Order.



The Enlil faction of the Anunnaki

The Enlil play a more protective role of Earth. They hate the Draconians and their ruler, Satan.

The Draconians are the archenemy of the Nordics. The Nordics hate them. They hate Satan, they hate the NWO. The coming planet X is more draconians/annunaki, shape-shifting lizards/humanoid Giants to help Satan dominate and rule the world during the tribulation period.

The Draconians are the dominant race of the (Enki), and the Nordics and other humanoid groups are the dominant races of the (Enlil).

What gets confusing is that humanoid races joined with the Dracos, so the humanoids are in both groups.

The Nordics and other humanoid races are largely very human in appearance, approximately 7-8 feet tall, blonde hair, blue eyes (Aryans). Hitler referred to them as "the master race." Ever wonder why Hitler was so obsessed with a master race of Aryans when he was Jewish?

The Nordics and other human looking alien races were also at one time beautiful angels. Although they did not lose their good looks and forced to look like the ugly beings of Lucifer and his angels were, they were cast out of heaven, nonetheless, and lost the qualities of being angels.

This Enlil faction includes the human looking groups, such as:

• Nordics (Lyra); Also live in an underground city underneath Mount Shasta. Human looking, tall blondes.

• Sirians (Sirius B); human looking

• Pleiedians, from the belt of Orion, human looking.

• Alpha Centaurians - human looking

• Venusians - human looking

The ancient Sumerians had their ancient culture saturated with the Annunaki. The name Sumerian means, "who from heaven came." The Sumerians and the Egyptians were both Alien-hybrid races.

The Bible says Lucifer resides in the first and second heavens (space); that is where he resides, and not in hell, as many believe. Satan has dominion over the first and second heavens but not over all the alien races, only those who rebelled with him specifically and not those who rebelled later.

He rules from Orion and is a winged Draconian. He is not omniscient, or omnipresent, thus he needs his minions to cover a lot of territory on the earth to keep up with what is going on in what we call reconnaissance and spying. Are UFO's real? Yes, they have vehicles to travel in, but these are not Aliens from galaxies in other universes, but from our own solar system and own outer space.

As in the days of Noah, so shall the last days be. Although the humanoid races tend to stay out of earth affairs and tend to uphold a neutral stand and just watch everything, the Luciferian groups of aliens (greys, reptilians) will run rampant on the earth, and are doing so already.

But we have not seen anything yet like we are going to in the near future.

They have perfected DNA manipulation and can look human while being hybrid/demon/aliens, (such as "star children" hybrids) with the ability to shape-shift into their original form and then back into a human form. No, this is not science fiction or Saturday morning cartoon central.

This is real! Fiction, Cartoons, X-Files, this was/ is just conditioning to get you and your children used to seeing these things happen and to just accept it when it starts to happen more in the future, exposing it instead of keeping it behind closed doors.

If you want to know what is going on, sometimes the best information is in the tabloids disguised as fiction or in Hollywood movies, where they often reveal plans and agendas disguised as entertainment. One of the more notable quotes I've never forgotten was one of the last lines in a movie I watched last year from XMen 2 in which one of the hybrids says, "We've been playing by your rules long enough. Now, maybe, it's time you started to play by ours"

Phil Schneider a civil engineer contracted to build secret underground facilities for clandestine organizations (the ones dealing with these "aliens" and signing treaties with them), described the evidence he encountered that ETs would be the true rulers of a one world government, and was a reason why he and many others left the 'service' of US based clandestine organizations. Schneider was killed in what appears to be a naval assassination hit.

In fact, whenever you start to talk about or expose the government's involvement with aliens, their treaties with them or their plans, you become a target, just as Bill Cooper, former navy intelligence officer, who wrote "Behold a Pale Horse." He was gunned down in a stand off with Sheriff Deputies at his home last year.

Many have tried to wake up and warn the public about the aliens in our midst, I encourage you to read The Dulce Base book on my website at thewatcherfiles.com. It is all there. You can read all of it right from the website. Also, the Cosmic Conflict series that is on the website has great insight and information concerning what the government keeps from the public.

The Veil is being lifted, and the time will come when men will reject sound doctrine and accept doctrine of devils; (aliens) through false prophets (todays pastors). The time is coming when we will see with through the spiritual realm and those in it. Fallen Angel Hybrids and Reptilian Draconians Masquerading as Ascended Masters, our Creators, and Beings of Light; they will deceive the world and prepare the heralding of their master...the Antichrist.

They were here before, and They will come back again

According to the prophecy of Daniel, they will do it again in the 4th and final kingdom of the beast. "They will mingle with the seed of men." Daniel 2: 43. It is this UFO phenomena, once revealed, that could be the trigger of the falling away (apostasy) of the church as predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The Bible warns that because the 'world' rejects the truth of the Bible that God "will send them a strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they may all be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

I believe the coming delusion or 'lie' is coming right from the UFO/New Age phenomena. The UFO cults say that the aliens are the Elohim, that they are our "God" (gods) that they are our forefathers and they created us and are returning to help us restore peace on the earth, -This is THE LIE this is also the driving force behind the New World Order that they're not telling you about!

The truth is, an alien or demonic invasion isn't coming..it's already here

For some reason most of church believes the Nephilim race was destroyed by the flood..then where did Goliath come from? The Amalek, the Kenites, all the 18 hybrid cities Joshua destroyed to reclaim the land of Israel? They didn't go anywhere, except maybe underground..to perfect dna mixing..to come out again in the last days undetected.

They have perfected the giant gene defect. In fact, now they can shop in our stores, sit next to us on a bus, and most wouldn't know any different. They look human..but they are not. They are the tares sown into the wheat.

The church has been silent about UFOs and abductions. About hybridization, fetus thefts, the impregnation of women by these beings.

Now that they've assimilated into our population as star children, politicians and civilians, who can detect them?










http://www.sherryshriner.net/sherry/who-is-what.htm

[biblegirl]

good posts nicolaj

whenever i read in genesis about cain, i get the feeling that there were other inhabitants of earth besides adam and eve and their offspring...what do you think?

also what do you think the mark that God put on him was?

[amethyst]

Thought you might find this interesting Amethyst.

same like what we are saying.


The Difference Between Fallen Angels, Demons,
Aliens, Jedi, and the Watchers

By Sherry Shriner


There are groups of fallen angels competing for global dominance and control within the Third Faction of the New World Order.

These are the games they play. One group plays as good shepherds claiming to want to help mankind while they kidnap, mutilate, implant, impregnate, and use human body parts as a skin rejuvenation and coloring maintenance technique.

The other faction plays as protectors and basic non-interventionists, the good cop/bad cop strategy. We all know that when someone says they aren't in your business that that is exactly what they are into. Both of these factions seek to destroy and dominate earth, setting up the path and reign of Satan, also known as the Antichrist. Of course, they will not tell you who he really is, he will play the role of Ascended Master, Wise one, Great Teacher, Peacemaker, Messiah, a great world leader, or whatever else they can sell to a gullible population of earthlings.

There are two factions or groups within the Annunaki, known as the Enki and the Enlil.

The Enki faction of the Anunnaki

Includes but not limited to:

• Greys from Zeta Reticulum (small greys with the oversized heads who like to mutilate and experiment on humans), also includes Tall Greys (from Orion),

• Reptilians (Earth based), Lizards. These are notably in charge of establishing a one world government through our political leaders. Shape-shift into human form and also use humans as hosts to possess and work through.

• Draco-Reptilians from Orion, the ones really running the show while the others do their bidding. It is the Dracos who are the rulers over the greys and the reptilians. (There are some who believe the Nordic humanoids are Reptilians in disguise). The draco's are shape-shifters, they are annunaki - lizard, they are the ones coming on Planet X (Rahab). The Draconians are red dragons. Lucifer himself lost his once held beauty and was turned into an ugly red dragon. The Reptilians (lizards), greys, and others are all classes of what we call aliens, but were once beautiful angels.

• Annunaki - those who joined in Lucifer's rebellion against the Lord.

-and the Enki faction of the Anunnaki, also draconian, inhabitants of Rahab, (giant humanoids from their home planet Nibiru, a group of them stayed on earth while the others allegedly left to return sometime soon).

These are the ones who seek to harm and destroy mankind, and will do so, as they rule and dominant the earth with Satan and the New World Order.



The Enlil faction of the Anunnaki

The Enlil play a more protective role of Earth. They hate the Draconians and their ruler, Satan.

The Draconians are the archenemy of the Nordics. The Nordics hate them. They hate Satan, they hate the NWO. The coming planet X is more draconians/annunaki, shape-shifting lizards/humanoid Giants to help Satan dominate and rule the world during the tribulation period.

The Draconians are the dominant race of the (Enki), and the Nordics and other humanoid groups are the dominant races of the (Enlil).

What gets confusing is that humanoid races joined with the Dracos, so the humanoids are in both groups.

The Nordics and other humanoid races are largely very human in appearance, approximately 7-8 feet tall, blonde hair, blue eyes (Aryans). Hitler referred to them as "the master race." Ever wonder why Hitler was so obsessed with a master race of Aryans when he was Jewish?

The Nordics and other human looking alien races were also at one time beautiful angels. Although they did not lose their good looks and forced to look like the ugly beings of Lucifer and his angels were, they were cast out of heaven, nonetheless, and lost the qualities of being angels.

This Enlil faction includes the human looking groups, such as:

• Nordics (Lyra); Also live in an underground city underneath Mount Shasta. Human looking, tall blondes.

• Sirians (Sirius B); human looking

• Pleiedians, from the belt of Orion, human looking.

• Alpha Centaurians - human looking

• Venusians - human looking

The ancient Sumerians had their ancient culture saturated with the Annunaki. The name Sumerian means, "who from heaven came." The Sumerians and the Egyptians were both Alien-hybrid races.

The Bible says Lucifer resides in the first and second heavens (space); that is where he resides, and not in hell, as many believe. Satan has dominion over the first and second heavens but not over all the alien races, only those who rebelled with him specifically and not those who rebelled later.

He rules from Orion and is a winged Draconian. He is not omniscient, or omnipresent, thus he needs his minions to cover a lot of territory on the earth to keep up with what is going on in what we call reconnaissance and spying. Are UFO's real? Yes, they have vehicles to travel in, but these are not Aliens from galaxies in other universes, but from our own solar system and own outer space.

As in the days of Noah, so shall the last days be. Although the humanoid races tend to stay out of earth affairs and tend to uphold a neutral stand and just watch everything, the Luciferian groups of aliens (greys, reptilians) will run rampant on the earth, and are doing so already.

But we have not seen anything yet like we are going to in the near future.

They have perfected DNA manipulation and can look human while being hybrid/demon/aliens, (such as "star children" hybrids) with the ability to shape-shift into their original form and then back into a human form. No, this is not science fiction or Saturday morning cartoon central.

This is real! Fiction, Cartoons, X-Files, this was/ is just conditioning to get you and your children used to seeing these things happen and to just accept it when it starts to happen more in the future, exposing it instead of keeping it behind closed doors.

If you want to know what is going on, sometimes the best information is in the tabloids disguised as fiction or in Hollywood movies, where they often reveal plans and agendas disguised as entertainment. One of the more notable quotes I've never forgotten was one of the last lines in a movie I watched last year from XMen 2 in which one of the hybrids says, "We've been playing by your rules long enough. Now, maybe, it's time you started to play by ours"

Phil Schneider a civil engineer contracted to build secret underground facilities for clandestine organizations (the ones dealing with these "aliens" and signing treaties with them), described the evidence he encountered that ETs would be the true rulers of a one world government, and was a reason why he and many others left the 'service' of US based clandestine organizations. Schneider was killed in what appears to be a naval assassination hit.

In fact, whenever you start to talk about or expose the government's involvement with aliens, their treaties with them or their plans, you become a target, just as Bill Cooper, former navy intelligence officer, who wrote "Behold a Pale Horse." He was gunned down in a stand off with Sheriff Deputies at his home last year.

Many have tried to wake up and warn the public about the aliens in our midst, I encourage you to read The Dulce Base book on my website at thewatcherfiles.com. It is all there. You can read all of it right from the website. Also, the Cosmic Conflict series that is on the website has great insight and information concerning what the government keeps from the public.

The Veil is being lifted, and the time will come when men will reject sound doctrine and accept doctrine of devils; (aliens) through false prophets (todays pastors). The time is coming when we will see with through the spiritual realm and those in it. Fallen Angel Hybrids and Reptilian Draconians Masquerading as Ascended Masters, our Creators, and Beings of Light; they will deceive the world and prepare the heralding of their master...the Antichrist.

They were here before, and They will come back again

According to the prophecy of Daniel, they will do it again in the 4th and final kingdom of the beast. "They will mingle with the seed of men." Daniel 2: 43. It is this UFO phenomena, once revealed, that could be the trigger of the falling away (apostasy) of the church as predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The Bible warns that because the 'world' rejects the truth of the Bible that God "will send them a strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they may all be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:11.

I believe the coming delusion or 'lie' is coming right from the UFO/New Age phenomena. The UFO cults say that the aliens are the Elohim, that they are our "God" (gods) that they are our forefathers and they created us and are returning to help us restore peace on the earth, -This is THE LIE this is also the driving force behind the New World Order that they're not telling you about!

The truth is, an alien or demonic invasion isn't coming..it's already here

For some reason most of church believes the Nephilim race was destroyed by the flood..then where did Goliath come from? The Amalek, the Kenites, all the 18 hybrid cities Joshua destroyed to reclaim the land of Israel? They didn't go anywhere, except maybe underground..to perfect dna mixing..to come out again in the last days undetected.

They have perfected the giant gene defect. In fact, now they can shop in our stores, sit next to us on a bus, and most wouldn't know any different. They look human..but they are not. They are the tares sown into the wheat.

The church has been silent about UFOs and abductions. About hybridization, fetus thefts, the impregnation of women by these beings.

Now that they've assimilated into our population as star children, politicians and civilians, who can detect them?


http://www.sherryshriner.net/sherry/who-is-what.htm

That's very interesting Nicolaj and a lot of information to take in...I'm going to have to copy and read over it....

[amethyst]

good posts nicolaj

whenever i read in genesis about cain, i get the feeling that there were other inhabitants of earth besides adam and eve and their offspring...what do you think?

also what do you think the mark that God put on him was?

I have thought about this too biblegirl....

Genesis 4:16-17 says: "And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch."

So the question is: where did Cain's wife come from if Adam and Eve were the only ones on earth?

I think there were other races of humans living on earth created by God prior to Adam and Eve being created. Adam and Eve came later I think.

* I've read somewhere that the mark could be an "X".

[nicolaj]

good posts nicolaj

whenever i read in genesis about cain, i get the feeling that there were other inhabitants of earth besides adam and eve and their offspring...what do you think?

also what do you think the mark that God put on him was?


Thanks I found the information interesting, so thought I would post them here, to see what others think of them.

I believe there must have been other inhabitants also..but the Bible just homes in on Adam & Eve to show the bloodline of Christ and how satan as tried to ruin Gods plan for Salvaltion all through history. So anything else outside the Bible in the beginning are not important here..though we do have information from outside the Bible that backs up the Bible imo.


this is what I've found about the mark on Cain...some people say it was a sign and not a mark if translated into Hebrew..I haven't a clue tbh.

The Hebrew is vayasem yahveh lqayin oth. vayasem means "and" plus "siym," put, set, place, stand upright, constitute, found, impose, make, prepare, etc., from the Gesenius-Tregelles "Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon." "Yahveh" is often translated "Jehovah." lqayin--"to" or "for" Cain, emphatically not "on," which would be "'al." Qayin means "Cain." And "oth", pronounced like "oath," has these and ONLY these meanings in Gesenius-Tregelles: "sign, military ensign, sign of something past or future, portent, token, proof, argument, miracle."

I've wondered if this mark/sign was for all future generations of Cain or just Cain.

Maybe over the top but I've wondered if this mark could be the mark of the beast.

what have you thought about it?

[nicolaj]

That's very interesting Nicolaj and a lot of information to take in...I'm going to have to copy and read over it....

hiya Amethyst

Its been going over in my head about these aliens/demons..If we read the Book of Enoch..we are told something similar I'll dig it out later to show you what I mean..

These demons are already condemned we know from the Bible.

The aliens who call themselves the eliohim..they tell us they are our true creators and there is no God..

They also tell us that we humans have no soul..maybe these eliohim/aliens are meaning they created the half/breds that live on the earth and these type infact do not have a soul and do not belong to God.

[uncia]

Maybe over the top but I've wondered if this mark could be the mark of the beast.

what have you thought about it?
I believe it to be human law, or the symbol of the earthly potentate that represents human law (e.g. flag etc). Consider:

Gen 4:15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

The only person capable of exercising vengeance in the manner spoken would be another human, and one vested with power. The only justification for such vengeance would be the existence of human law. The mark of Cain then, was the mark or sign of some earthly potentate or protector under whose laws he lived. This is analagous to the mark of antichrist, as antichrist too will set up a system of law opposed to God, and force everyone to obey the laws Rev 13:7 and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Contradistinguish the mark / sign / symbol of God, which is the sign of God's authority and obeisance to his laws, rather than that of the potentate.
Deut 6
6 These commandments that I give you today are to be upon your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Deut 11
18 Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 19 Teach them to your children, talking about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 20 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates, 21 so that your days and the days of your children may be many in the land that the LORD swore to give your forefathers, as many as the days that the heavens are above the earth.

[nicolaj]

I believe it to be human law, or the symbol of the earthly potentate that represents human law (e.g. flag etc). Consider:

The only person capable of exercising vengeance in the manner spoken would be another human, and one vested with power. The only justification for such vengeance would be the existence of human law. The mark of Cain then, was the mark or sign of some earthly potentate or protector under whose laws he lived. This is analagous to the mark of antichrist, as antichrist too will set up a system of law opposed to God, and force everyone to obey the laws
Contradistinguish the mark / sign / symbol of God, which is the sign of God's authority and obeisance to his laws, rather than that of the potentate.


Rev 13:18 This is where wisdom is needed; those who understand should count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person, and its number is 666.

do you think this could be the same... man

[uncia]

Rev 13:18 This is where wisdom is needed; those who understand should count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person, and its number is 666.

do you think this could be the same... man
I do not know what 666 refers to ( I am aware of Lateinos, Caligula, Maometis etc) but my preference is always to look first at the Old Testament for possible interpretations; and 666 is the found as the yearly quota of gold received by Solomon.
1 Kings 10:14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,

Thus 666 I believe to indicate a person denoted by his greed for gold / money. I believe King Solomon was a type or figure of antichrist, having a vast extent of empire, like the modern antichrist. As with the modern antichrist, Solomon started out wise and built a temple to God, but then in the latter part of his reign, turned to building idol altars and was known only for his greed.
1 Kings 11:7 Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon.
Significantly Solomon also turned to pagans to help with his construction projects, Hiram of Tyre, where Freemasons get their story from. Solomon's Temple thus became the temple of antichrist, and it is also the temple of Freemasonry. Solomon also fornicated with foreign women, and I believe that also symbolizes that the reign of antichrist will be accompanied by widespread miscegenation.

As far as persons go, the papacy and islam (Mahomet) are both clearly antichrist systems, denoted by individuals, or small groups of them, but I believe there are numerous offshoots to both. Before that antichrist was vested in the Roman imperial system, and the emperor symbolized antichrist until Constantine acknowledged Christ. I do not think antichrist is a single person, because the reign of antichrist must last till the return of Christ. EDIT - Or rather, if antichrist was ever a single person, it was Solomon.

[nicolaj]

I do not know what 666 refers to ( I am aware of Lateinos, Caligula, Maometis etc) but my preference is always to look first at the Old Testament for possible interpretations; and 666 is the found as the yearly quota of gold received by Solomon.

Thus 666 I believe to indicate a person denoted by his greed for gold / money. I believe King Solomon was a type or figure of antichrist, having a vast extent of empire, like the modern antichrist. As with the modern antichrist, Solomon started out wise and built a temple to God, but then in the latter part of his reign, turned to building idol altars and was known only for his greed.

Significantly Solomon also turned to pagans to help with his construction projects, Hiram of Tyre, where Freemasons get their story from. Solomon's Temple thus became the temple of antichrist, and it is also the temple of Freemasonry. Solomon also fornicated with foreign women, and I believe that also symbolizes that the reign of antichrist will be accompanied by widespread miscegenation.

As far as persons go, the papacy and islam (Mahomet) are both clearly antichrist systems, denoted by individuals, or small groups of them, but I believe there are numerous offshoots to both. Before that antichrist was vested in the Roman imperial system, and the emperor symbolized antichrist until Constantine acknowledged Christ. I do not think antichrist is a single person, because the reign of antichrist must last till the return of Christ.

Thank you for sharing for thoughts, I also look to the OT, many people dismiss it..but many treasures are found in the OT. I see many shadows there of things to come.

yes the papacy and islam etc are all types of anti-christs they all stem from that same one source.

I believe that also symbolizes that the reign of antichrist will be accompanied by widespread miscegenation.

I believe that is already widespread..I think of what Daniel tells us..



Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall be mingled indeed together with the seed of man, but they shall not stick fast one to another, as iron cannot be mixed with clay.

mixing the seed of man with some other kind of entity is widespread or will become widespread?

This passage really fascinates me.

[uncia]

Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall be mingled indeed together with the seed of man, but they shall not stick fast one to another, as iron cannot be mixed with clay.

mixing the seed of man with some other kind of entity is widespread or will become widespread?

This passage really fascinates me.
Daniel is my pet hate. I can't stand the book - other than as a traditional work of Maccabbean era Jewish theology, which is all that I read it as now.

For a start, it is the foundationstone of the dispensational heresy. Almost no one today (other than biblical inerrantists) believe it to have been written other in circa 166BC during the Macabbean revolt. The best commentary by far I read on the book of Daniel is by Dean Farrar, part of the Bible Expositor series. Although a perfectly orthodox Christian he can see no way that the book is other than 2nd century, and importantly it was also unknown to Sirach (circa 200BC) who mentions all the prophets apart from Daniel and Enoch. Daniel is of a similar style to the book of Enoch, which is also 2nd century BC.

A main issue in the book of Daniel is that no one has the slightest idea who "Darius the Mede" was, who apparently took over the city of Babylon, for it does not accord with history, as Babylon was conquered by the armies of Cyrus (but not in battle).

Coming back to Nebudchanezzar's dream and the image, the kingdoms are traditionally represented by inerrantists as Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome, but are more likely in fact to represent, Babylon, Media, Medo-Persia and Greece (pursuant to the belief of Daniel that Babylon was conquered by Darius the Mede). It was the kingdom of Alexander that was of Iron and Clay and represented diverse peoples that could not be mixed together, although the Greeks tried miscegenation.

The stone cut out without hands represents not Christ but the restored kingdom of the Jews under God.

It is only by a complete reinterpretation that the image is made to apply to Christ, and Rome. This is similar to the seventy weeks in Daniel 9, which originally applied to Antiochus Ephiphanes and his defilement of the temple, and was later wrongly re-interpreted to apply to the coming of Christ, and then again by the dispensationalists to apply to the coming of antichrist.

Nowadays everyone seizes on Daniel to make it of it whatever they want, but IMO it is best retained as a strictly Jewish work relating to the Jews and their freedom from Greek persecution in the times of the Maccabees. As such it prefigures the coming of Christ, and antichrist, in terms of its subject matter, but is not a direct one-for-one prophecy.

[herushura]

You are interpreting the bible wrongly, when bible talk about giants they are not litterly takling about Giants, they are talking about people "High Up" like Kings for example, in fact the term EL (as in god) litterly means "Most High".

also the reptilian theory is completely flawed, and its a pretty simple explanation why reptilian giant story are in every religion, simple answer is the discovery of Dinosaur Remains and Bones, to the ancients this would be a big shock, they created storys about these reptile discoverys like they were angels(Winged Dinosaurs) fallen to earth(in the earth and Dead), Dinosaurs are Giants and are Reptilians.

[nicolaj]

You are interpreting the bible wrongly, when bible talk about giants they are not litterly takling about Giants, they are talking about people "High Up" like Kings for example, in fact the term EL (as in god) litterly means "Most High".

also the reptilian theory is completely flawed, and its a pretty simple explanation why reptilian giant story are in every religion, simple answer is the discovery of Dinosaur Remains and Bones, to the ancients this would be a big shock, they created storys about these reptile discoverys like they were angels(Winged Dinosaurs) fallen to earth(in the earth and Dead), Dinosaurs are Giants and are Reptilians.

I believe you have a point with this..something I've been wondering also, we even have animals that are decribed in the bible that sound like dinosaurs. But i still think in this case they where referring to half breeds humans mating with fallen angels..
for instance goliath.

Gen 6:4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.

giants could have also meant steller,bully,tyrant

[herushura]

I believe you have a point with this..something I've been wondering also, we even have animals that are decribed in the bible that sound like dinosaurs. But i still think in this case they where referring to half breeds humans mating with fallen angels..
for instance goliath.


giants could have also meant steller,bully,tyrant

now your creating something o


Gen 6:4 Now the kings were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of the King mated with the daughters of the men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of the old kingdom, men of renown.

[nicolaj]

now your creating something o


Gen 6:4 Now the kings were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of the King mated with the daughters of the men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of the old kingdom, men of renown.


what am I creating?..

what bible are you using?

[amethyst]

I do not know what 666 refers to ( I am aware of Lateinos, Caligula, Maometis etc) but my preference is always to look first at the Old Testament for possible interpretations; and 666 is the found as the yearly quota of gold received by Solomon.

Thus 666 I believe to indicate a person denoted by his greed for gold / money. I believe King Solomon was a type or figure of antichrist, having a vast extent of empire, like the modern antichrist. As with the modern antichrist, Solomon started out wise and built a temple to God, but then in the latter part of his reign, turned to building idol altars and was known only for his greed.

Significantly Solomon also turned to pagans to help with his construction projects, Hiram of Tyre, where Freemasons get their story from. Solomon's Temple thus became the temple of antichrist, and it is also the temple of Freemasonry. Solomon also fornicated with foreign women, and I believe that also symbolizes that the reign of antichrist will be accompanied by widespread miscegenation.

As far as persons go, the papacy and islam (Mahomet) are both clearly antichrist systems, denoted by individuals, or small groups of them, but I believe there are numerous offshoots to both. Before that antichrist was vested in the Roman imperial system, and the emperor symbolized antichrist until Constantine acknowledged Christ. I do not think antichrist is a single person, because the reign of antichrist must last till the return of Christ. EDIT - Or rather, if antichrist was ever a single person, it was Solomon.

This is an interesting interpretation, but I'm not so sure Solomon is a "type" of antichrist figure. Because, it seems he repented/had a change of heart in his later years. In Ecclesiates, he appears to express regret about his earlier indiscretions and bad decisions.

But I do think the rebuilt temple is being prepared for the Antichrist.

[deathcultreject]

The Enochian archives have a slightly different take on it.

The Kings of men grew proud, so God gave mankind black magic (the blessing and curse of the Nephilim) to punish them.

Then God sent the antidote about 4/500 years ago so that 'the great work' could allow mankind to recover.

I guess we're still recovering.

[herushura]

what am I creating?..



your creating imagination, by adding Giant Reptilians to the bible which doesn't make any sense at all, you do realize that Mammals are fare Superior then Reptilians due to mammals brain complexity and the fact mammals were evolved from reptiles.

And then you go on about cross breeding, which again makes no sense, how the hell can giant Reptilians cross breed with humans - Reptilian and Human Chromosomes are not compatible with each other, its like putting a CD in a floppy disc drive.

[nicolaj]

now your creating something o


Gen 6:4 Now the kings were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of the King mated with the daughters of the men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of the old kingdom, men of renown.


where did you get this text from, which Bible?

[nicolaj]

your creating imagination, by adding Giant Reptilians to the bible which doesn't make any sense at all, you do realize that Mammals are fare Superior then Reptilians due to mammals brain complexity and the fact mammals were evolved from reptiles.

And then you go on about cross breeding, which again makes no sense, how the hell can giant Reptilians cross breed with humans - Reptilian and Human Chromosomes are not compatible with each other, its like putting a CD in a floppy disc drive.



they where fallen angels..not reptilians..lol

I said giants..

take a look again..



Gen 6:4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.


Gen 6:4 The N'filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.

Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.


I have 8 different bibles not one say kings..

which bible are you using?..

[herushura]

where did you get this text from, which Bible?

I interpreting the genesis passage and added logic, most words in the bible have parallel meanings.

for example Giants or "Nephilim" meaning fallen one (kings i guess' fallen/dethroned)

God for example is usually adon or El, which means "Most high" which in those times would most likely of referred to a King (the queen is called highness)

daughters of men and giants obvious is a mating thing.

The bible is very political in the way its written.

"they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of the old kingdom"

you see, what this passage is talking is old fallen kings, whom mated with common women and created heirs to the throne of the old kingdom.
you see this passage is talking about the past,

[nicolaj]

I interpreting the genesis passage and added logic, most words in the bible have parallel meanings.
for example Giants or "Nephilim" meaning fallen one (kings i guess' fallen/dethroned)

God for example is usually adon or El, which means "Most high" which in those times would most likely of referred to a King (the queen is called highness)

daughters of men and giants obvious is a mating thing.

The bible is very political in the way its written.

"they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of the old kingdom"

you see, what this passage is talking is old fallen kings, whom mated with common women and created heirs to the throne of the old kingdom.


I thought so

[herushura]

they where fallen angels..not reptilians..lol

I said giants..

take a look again..



Gen 6:4 Now giants were upon the earth in those days. For after the sons of God went in to the daughters of men, and they brought forth children, these are the mighty men of old, men of renown.


Gen 6:4 The N'filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown.

Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.


I have 8 different bibles not one say kings..

which bible are you using?..

if you want me to be a sceptic and believe these myths are real then answer below

"The sons of God came in unto the daughters of men."
How many sons does God have?
Do angels have sex?
How big are the giants?
Who were the sons of God?

[tannah]

Giants.

Part one
evidence for giants nephilim rephaim anunnaki part 1 - YouTube


part two:

http://www.youtube.c...;feature=relate

Photos of giants:

The Nephilim - YouTube

GIANT of INDIA - YouTube

[nicolaj]

if you want me to be a sceptic and believe these myths are real then answer below

"The sons of God came in unto the daughters of men."
How many sons does God have?
Do angels have sex?
How big are the giants?
Who were the sons of God?

I'm not asking you to believe ..

I don't know how many Angels God created, that doesn't matter ..the point is some rebelled against God according to the Bible. Did they have sex?..they must have done to have produced the Nephilim. How these Nephilim (off spring) survived the flood is another question..I do not know. But they did.


According to the bible some angels look like you and I, we may walk past them in the street and not realise it..they aren't some kind of fairy with wings..like the Church would have us believe.


Jud 1:6 And the angels that did not keep within their original authority, but abandoned their proper sphere, he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for the Judgment of the Great Day.

I'm still studying this myself and do not have the answers I don't believe any person does.

[nicolaj]

Giants.

Part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N63lhtx2q8o


part two:

http://www.youtube.c...;feature=relate

Photos of giants:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI8q8xTSoXk&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jdrPG0C94&feature=fvw

Thank you for those Tannah very interesting

[herushura]

i see, carved stone is evidence for an advance alien/reptilian/giant race on earth. if they were so advanced why use Stone, why not metal.

[uncia]

This is an interesting interpretation, but I'm not so sure Solomon is a "type" of antichrist figure. Because, it seems he repented/had a change of heart in his later years. In Ecclesiates, he appears to express regret about his earlier indiscretions and bad decisions.

But I do think the rebuilt temple is being prepared for the Antichrist.
Firstly the Book of Ecclesiastes is not thought to have been written contemporary with King Solomon and so was not written by him. It was a late Hebrew style to write theological and prophetic works and name the books after old Israelite heroes, hence Enoch, Daniel, Ecclesiastes. From Ecclesiastes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Hebrew of Ecclesiastes was not common in the era of Solomon’s reign, and the book contains words borrowed from other languages. For example, the book contains several Aramaic and two Persian words. The influence of Aramaic is characteristic of late Hebrew. Other examples of late Biblical Hebrew include the qetAl pattern form nouns, which would have dated after an Aramaic influence, the frequent use of the relative sh (-ש) alongside asher (אשר), the Ut ending (ות-), the frequent use of the participle for the present (which is later developed in Rabbinic Hebrew), using the prefix conjugation in the future (vs. the older preterite use), and terms that appear to specifically fit a Persian/Hellenistic context (e.g. Shallit). During the time of Solomon and through the eighth century, matres lectionis were not used inside words (except maybe in 'ir (city) in the Lachish letters), and there is no evidence for early orthography.

Secondly Solomon's temple was modeled on a Canaanite temple, ‘Ain Dara in northern Syria (http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=35&Issue=04&ArticleID=15&Page=2&UserID=0&) and did almost nothing to promote the godliness of the Israelites, who continually rebelled. Solomon's temple is paralleled today by the courts and law of antichrist, that which represents the mark or seal of the godless. It is not the case that it will be rebuilt - it has already been rebuilt and is being run by the beast.

Did you not know that the some of the inns of law (courts) in London are called "temple"? e.g. Middle Temple, Inner Temple. They represent the rebuilt temple of Solomon, i.e. godless legalism, that supplant's the law of Christ; and are shrines to the beast and his law.

[amethyst]

Firstly the Book of Ecclesiastes is not thought to have been written contemporary with King Solomon and so was not written by him. It was a late Hebrew style to write theological and prophetic works and name the books after old Israelite heroes, hence Enoch, Daniel, Ecclesiastes. From Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastes)

You don't think it was written by him or one of his scribes? Is the talmud being used as a reference in that link? If so, I would disregard the info, IMO.



Secondly Solomon's temple was modeled on a Canaanite temple, ‘Ain Dara in northern Syria (http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=35&Issue=04&ArticleID=15&Page=2&UserID=0&) and did almost nothing to promote the godliness of the Israelites, who continually rebelled. Solomon's temple is paralleled today by the courts and law of antichrist, that which represents the mark or seal of the godless. It is not the case that it will be rebuilt - it has already been rebuilt and is being run by the beast.

Did you not know that the some of the inns of law (courts) in London are called "temple"? e.g. Middle Temple, Inner Temple. They represent the rebuilt temple of Solomon, i.e. godless legalism, that supplant's the law of Christ; and are shrines to the beast and his law.

I am not familiar with that...I will have to look in to it.

[uncia]

You don't think it was written by him or one of his scribes? Is the talmud being used as a reference in that link? If so, I would disregard the info, IMO.

No, the dating is just by linguistic content and style. I am not surprised. Solomon would have had little time for writing with 1000 wives to satisfy + worshipping their gods. Similarly with Proverbs. It is simplistic to assume direct authorship by Solomon, although some of the proverbs may be attributed to him.


I am not familiar with that...I will have to look in to it.
I see every Masonic lodge as a re-engineering of Solomon's temple. Perhaps also churches as well. The whole idea of building imposing "houses of God" of stone seems to have originated with Solomon. Yet how many of these buildings are now given over to antichrist?

[yhwhschild]

No, the dating is just by linguistic content and style. I am not surprised. Solomon would have had little time for writing with 1000 wives to satisfy + worshipping their gods. Similarly with Proverbs. It is simplistic to assume direct authorship by Solomon, although some of the proverbs may be attributed to him.


I see every Masonic lodge as a re-engineering of Solomon's temple. Perhaps also churches as well. The whole idea of building imposing "houses of God" of stone seems to have originated with Solomon. Yet how many of these buildings are now given over to antichrist?

Shalom.

And if he kept the Torah to the letter he would have to devide everything equally with them. His time, money every thing.

In my opinion every church that put the pagan cross up and xmas tree or anything that goes against YHWH's Torah allows Satan a foothold in the church or your lives whether done intentially or not.

For this reason YHWH always wanted Israel to be Kodesh/set apart in all they did and stick closely to the Torah as it is a spiritual battle fought in the mind and every time we or Israel strayed it allowed Satan a chance to get in and destroy what YHWH had built both spiritual and physically. You can see this in the life of Saul, David and Solomon to name but a few as they all strayed from the Torah and they suffered for it as well as their kingdom.

Thats why Yeshua says that Satan is like a roaring lion seeking who he can devour.

[rapunzel]

[QUOTE=uncia;1058305435
Secondly Solomon's temple was modeled on a Canaanite temple, ‘Ain Dara in northern Syria (http://www.bib-arch.org/bar/article.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=35&Issue=04&ArticleID=15&Page=2&UserID=0&) and did almost nothing to promote the godliness of the Israelites, who continually rebelled. Solomon's temple is paralleled today by the courts and law of antichrist, that which represents the mark or seal of the godless. It is not the case that it will be rebuilt - it has already been rebuilt and is being run by the beast.

Did you not know that the some of the inns of law (courts) in London are called "temple"? e.g. Middle Temple, Inner Temple. They represent the rebuilt temple of Solomon, i.e. godless legalism, that supplant's the law of Christ; and are shrines to the beast and his law.[/QUOTE]

The London Inns of Court are not modelled on Solomon's Temple. They were built on land belonging to the Knights Templars originally, hence the name. There still exists the Templars' round church, patterned on the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem.

http://www.innertemplelibrary.org.uk/temple-history/inner-temple-history-introduction-part-1.htm

[amethyst]

Adding to the thread because this is very significant I believe, about the Dead Sea Scrolls: and how the scriptures have indeed been tampered with:

Found this:

"Most church pastors today will pull out Genesis 4:1 which reads:

"And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord."

There are many omissions and translation errors throughout the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls confirm that Genesis 4:1 was tampered with. In fact the passage should read:

"And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael (Satan), and she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like the earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord."

http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/serpent-seedline.htm



So the DEAD SEA SCROLLS pretty much tell it like it is and that there has been a deliberate tampering of the text in order to keep the truth hidden from those who will not search out the truth for themselves!

Snake people indeed changing the text and scripture! And they should be spanked royally on their naughty snaky bum bums!

[danceswithbunnies]

Ecclisiastes message was about the perfect expression of nihilistic despair, so whoever wrote it was probably quite well off, the poor in the ancient world were far to busy just trying to stay alive..

[herushura]

I see every Masonic lodge as a re-engineering of Solomon's temple. Perhaps also churches as well. The whole idea of building imposing "houses of God" of stone seems to have originated with Solomon. Yet how many of these buildings are now given over to antichrist?

These Buildings are based on Astrology "house of God" is an Astrological term which means "House of the Sun".

The House is a Symbol of the Woman. An Ancient Symbol for Women is an Upside Down Triangle, and the symbol for the Sun is an Obelisk with a 3d triangle at the top, put them together and you get Sexual Unity, and The Hexagram. Hexagram is a Symbol for the "House of God", the same symbolism is used in Medieval Pictures of jesus in an oval(vagina) shaped carving.


Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun
12:2 And she being with child(The Sun)

You see the Women Houses/Clothes the Sun. In Ancient Egyptian this Woman is called NUN, which is why you find Nuns in churches, another symbol for The "Woman" are Arks. In Egypt Ra(the sun) travels in an Ark from Sunset to sunrise (Noah the Sun travels in the Ark with the Zodiac(animals).

Ark of the Covenant (Covenant means Unity), these were built by jewish for YHWH, also note that these were also built by Egyptian for there Sun Gods aswell, infact when Tutmoses III conquered Caanan (todays israel), he placed the Ark of Amen on Jerusalem, did a very special ceremony and from that day it became the holy city.

Church : Chi=X(Sun) Arch(Curved Shape/Vagina/House)
thus Church = House(Urch) of Sun/God(Chi)

yhwh is a corruption its means (I am Ra)
Yah - I Am
Wah - Ra

proof that freemasonry and the bible is a fabrication of astrology, reptilians is just symbolism/

[biblegirl]

Adding to the thread because this is very significant I believe, about the Dead Sea Scrolls: and how the scriptures have indeed been tampered with:

Found this


So the DEAD SEA SCROLLS pretty much tell it like it is and that there has been a deliberate tampering of the text in order to keep the truth hidden from those who will not search out the truth for themselves!

Snake people indeed changing the text and scripture! And they should be spanked royally on their naughty snaky bum bums!

what the??!!

[amethyst]

what the??!!

Surprizing isn't it?

We must start a thread on the Dead Sea Scrolls, biblegirl

[biblegirl]

Surprizing isn't it?

We must start a thread on the Dead Sea Scrolls, biblegirl

That's a good link actually, I'm still deciding what I think about it. But it makes much more sense taken the way it is presented with Cain as the son of Satan...I believe that separating the wheat from the tares as well as separating the sheep from the goats has nothing to do with believers and non-believers and everything to do with humans and reps. Also that verse about Noah and Ham makes sense for the first time to me, yes that has to be the context in which it was meant, as it is referred to the same in Deut (uncovering the nakedness). I'm not sold on the tree idea, but the Cain and Ham cases are presented very well.

[amethyst]

That's a good link actually, I'm still deciding what I think about it. But it makes much more sense taken the way it is presented with Cain as the son of Satan...I believe that separating the wheat from the tares as well as separating the sheep from the goats has nothing to do with believers and non-believers and everything to do with humans and reps. Also that verse about Noah and Ham makes sense for the first time to me, yes that has to be the context in which it was meant, as it is referred to the same in Deut (uncovering the nakedness). I'm not sold on the tree idea, but the Cain and Ham cases are presented very well.

Yeah, apparently, people are sometimes refered to as "trees' in scripture...

Thought this was interesting.....from a website, an explanation for "trees":



Genesis 3:1-6

1 Now the serpent*1 was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea , hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree*2of the garden?

Explanations from above verse: *1 serpent = Hebrew word # 5175: nachash (naw-khawsh'); a snake (from its hiss). From # 5172: nachash (naw-khash'); a primitive root; properly, to hiss, ie: whisper a (magic) spell; generally, to prognosticate: to practice divination, to divine, to observe signs, to learn by experience, to diligently observe, to practice fortune telling, to take as an omen.

This serpent is no ordinary snake! It is satan himself. The serpent is just one of satan's many names. Below, in the book of Revelation we see four of satan's names identified, but it is all the same one entity. And just like it say's in the definition above, satan (the serpent) is magical in his ability to enchant.

Rev 12:9
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (KJV)

Explanations from above verse (Cont.): *2 tree = Hebrew word # 6086: `ets (ates); a tree (from its firmness) from # 6095:`atsah (aw-tsaw'); a primitive root; properly, to fasten (or make firm), ie: to close the eyes. figuratively: The spine giving firmness to the body (The body is the trunk, and the arms and legs are the limbs).

And God uses the word "trees" symbolically in the scriptures to mean People both good and bad. And below is just one example of 'trees' being used symbolically for people:

Isa 61:1-3

1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. (KJV)

(For more instances of trees being used symbolically for men in the Bible, See also: [Isa 65:16-25], [Jere 17: 7-10], [Eze 31:1-14], [Dan 4:18-28], and on it goes. . . .)

The 'serpent' and 'the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in the midst of the garden,' are both one in the same entity; it is satan himself.

http://www.biblestudysite.com/realsin.htm



* we know that in this context "to eat" is a euphemism for sexual relations, which makes a lot of sense. She "ate" of a certain tree.

[biblegirl]

Yeah, apparently, people are sometimes refered to as "trees' in scripture...

Thought this was interesting.....from a website, an explanation for "trees":

* we know that in this context "to eat" is a euphemism for sexual relations, which makes a lot of sense. She "ate" of a certain tree.

yeah except it says then adam ate of it afterward...sooooo....ewww if this is true

[amethyst]

yeah except it says then adam ate of it afterward...sooooo....ewww if this is true

Yeah, I wondered about that too..that's why I'd like to see a complete text of the Dead Sea Scrolls and read what it really says.....but Satan can shapeshift and "transform" himself into an angel of light, so who knows?

of course, we know Adam couldn't get preggers.....so Eve was focused on....

[biblegirl]

Yeah, I wondered about that too..that's why I'd like to see a complete text of the Dead Sea Scrolls and read what it really says.....but Satan can shapeshift and "transform" himself into an angel of light, so who knows?

of course, we know Adam couldn't get preggers.....so Eve was focused on....

It seems like this can still be a reference to Eve impregnated by Satan, when she says the serpent beguiled her...in other words eating of the tree and having relations with satan could be two separate events in the same verse. The curse on Eve was in childbearing, so it would make sense if these consequences correlated to sexual relations. Adam's curse was much easier, maybe all he did was eat some fruit. I don't know, a lot to think about here.

When we see the tree of life in Revelations, the explanation of the tree being Jesus and us eating from it being sexual relations just doesn't fit.

[herushura]

but Satan can shapeshift and "transform" himself into an angel of light, so who knows?

What? There is no biblical nor outsource evidence that Satan is an Angel of Light ,is a reptilian, or can transform.

[chrysoprase]

Could trees have to do with certain bloodlines; or family trees? Some trees are pure and every limb is as it should be (trees of righteousness).

But eating of that other tree would be introducing that bloodline in future branches (generations).

[danceswithbunnies]

So back to reptilians in the bible..

If it is okay..i would like to relate two recent experiences briefly..
A few months ago i fell asleep with the radio on listening to coat to coast on alien abduction night..
I dreamt there was an alien standing at the bottom of the bed trying to suck me out of my body, and i must have been screaming in my sleep because my husband woke me up and said.."take those damn headphones off and stop listening to that shit"..

Please understand when i go to bed, i tell myself i am only going to listen for a few minutes before turning it off, i usually fall asleep before i turn it off.

Flash forward to last week...
It was another guy on coast to coast talking about alien abduction.
I fall asleep with the headphones on again...dream within a dream..i vaguely remember being chased by reptilians and woke up to find myself in this deep pit...pitch black..i mean pitch black...i can hear HISSING all around me chhhhsssssshhhhhhhssssssss. I run only to run into the walls..
My husband wakes me up..telling me i am screaming in my sleep.
(note to self..it may be a good idea to NOT listen to the radio in bed...)

I suspect there is a deep connection between reptilians and aliens..
When i was living in New Mexico i did see UFOs among some stranger oddities.

Now it is possible that the radio show does in fact plant images in my mind about aliens that gives me nightmares..but why the alien theme?

Anyway thought i would relate that..

[danceswithbunnies]

It seems like this can still be a reference to Eve impregnated by Satan, when she says the serpent beguiled her...in other words eating of the tree and having relations with satan could be two separate events in the same verse. The curse on Eve was in childbearing, so it would make sense if these consequences correlated to sexual relations. Adam's curse was much easier, maybe all he did was eat some fruit. I don't know, a lot to think about here.

When we see the tree of life in Revelations, the explanation of the tree being Jesus and us eating from it being sexual relations just doesn't fit.

Wasn't there something in Daniel about the toes of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream being iron and clay that did not "cleave" one to the other?

Dan 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

[biblegirl]

Wasn't there something in Daniel about the toes of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream being iron and clay that did not "cleave" one to the other?

Dan 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

oh absolutely, I believe this happened many times throughout history and is also happening right now, kind of like that "as it was in the days of Noah" prophecy

i was not aware of this happening as early as eden, because the text in Genesis 4:1 shows Adam as the father of Cain....but if this has been corrupted, then it would make a world of difference, especially Eve's statement "i have gotten a man from the Lord". Reading back over everything it seems quite clear that Cain was the offspring of the serpent.

[amethyst]

It seems like this can still be a reference to Eve impregnated by Satan, when she says the serpent beguiled her...in other words eating of the tree and having relations with satan could be two separate events in the same verse. The curse on Eve was in childbearing, so it would make sense if these consequences correlated to sexual relations. Adam's curse was much easier, maybe all he did was eat some fruit. I don't know, a lot to think about here.

When we see the tree of life in Revelations, the explanation of the tree being Jesus and us eating from it being sexual relations just doesn't fit.

I thought about that too..the word to eat in Revelations is in a different context as scripture says He is the "bread of life" and when we "feast" on Him we have life.....more of a symbolic feasting then a literal feasting....if your refering to the "tree of life" in the New Jerusalem (in Revelation) ...not sure what particular scripture you mean...

Check out that whole biblestudysite/realsin.htm link for a more indepth look into the original meanings of the hebrew words...it's pretty good...

[amethyst]

Wasn't there something in Daniel about the toes of the statue in Nebuchadnezzar's dream being iron and clay that did not "cleave" one to the other?

Dan 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Oh yeah..that's a good point..... the "seed" which, in this scripture means "offspring'....they mingle themselves with the seed of men, but they shall not cleave one to another..

I looked up the original word cleave and it means " to cling"...and isn't that what happens naturally when a conception takes place.....the sperm "clings", or adheres to the egg? This scripture is suggesting that something unnatural was taking place...something that was foreign to the normal human sex act...IMO.

[biblegirl]

found this in another thread: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70427

Hey,

Just flicking through the Dead Sea Scrolls (not the originals of course but an english translation) and found this, wondered if anyone had seen this before... Amrans vision...

'I saw watchers in my vision, a dream vision, and behold two of them argued about me and said... and they were engaged in a great quarrel concerning me. I asked them: 'You, what are you?...thus...about me? They answered and said to me: 'We have been made masters and rule over all the sons of men.' And they said to me: Which of us do you choose...

I raised my eyes and saw one of them. His looks were frightening like those of a viper, and his garments were multicoloured and he extremely dark...
And afterwards I looked and behold...by his appearance and his face was like that of an adder, and he was covered with....together, and his eyes...
This watcher: 'Who is he?' He said to me:' This watcher...and his three names are...and Melkiresha'. And I said 'My lord, what...' and he said to me...and all his paths were darkness, and all his work is darkness, and he is...in darkness...you see. And he rules over all darkness and I rule over all light....

The order of the most high as far as 'the lands' (beyond the ocean). I rule over all light, and over all that is God's, and I rule over the men of His grace and peace. And I rule over all the sons of light. And I asked and said to him:'What are your names?...He answered and said to me: 'My three names are...(Melchizedek)...I announce this to you and I will indeed inform you...for all the sons of light will shine, and all the sons of darkness will be dark. For all the sons of light...and by all their knowledge they will...and the sons of darkness will be burnt...for all folly and wickedness are dark, and all peace and truth are bright. For all the sons of light go towards the light, towards eternal joy and rejoicing, and all the sons of darkness go towards death and perdition....The people shall have brightness...and they will cause them to live...

And now to you, Amran my son, I enjoy...and to your sons and to their sons I enjoin...and they gave them to Levi my father...and Levi my father gave them to me...and my books in testimony that they might be warned by them...'


Crazy...so many different interpretations could be made, shame about the missing text parts. Bloody suppression!

[biblegirl]

http://emahiser.christogenea.org/Gen315%20PDFs/Two%20Seedline%20Taught%20In%20Dead%20Sea%20Scroll s%201.pdf
When new evidence was brought forth from the Aramiac Targums confirming an
omission in Genesis 4:1 (similar to that of 1 Samuel 11 in the Dead Sea Scrolls), Ted R.
Weiland, a caustic and unyielding antichrist anti-seedliner, pronounced all such
Page 2
evidence as “ Babylonian influenced.” When the Targum evidence is added to Genesis
4:1 in italics it would read thusly:
“ And Adam knew his wife Eve, who was pregnant by Sammael [Satan], and
she conceived and bare Cain, and he was like the heavenly beings, and not like
earthly beings, and she said, I have gotten a man from the angel of the Lord.”
The antichrist anti-seedliners point to 2 Corinthians 11:3, and by taking that
verse out of context will claim she was only “mentally seduced.” Genesis 3:13 asks the
question: “What is this that thou hast done?” Had it been a mental crime the question
would have been, “What is this that thou hast thought?” The word “ done ” in that verse
is #6213, and in both Strong’s and Gesenius’ has nothing to with anything mental, but
everything to do with “ to produce or create.” In fact, Gesenius’ includes a definition with
sexual connotations:
“ PIEL, to work, or to press immodestly the breasts of a woman, i. q. ... Ezek.
23:3, 8, and in Kal [Ezek. 23:] verse 21 ... So Gr. %#¥, and Lat. facere, perficere,
conficere mulierem, as a euphemism for sexual intercourse, see Fesselii Advers. Sacra,
lib. ii. cap. 23.” [Emphasis mine]
Hebrew scholars have been aware for years that there is a problem with Genesis
4:1. The Interpreter’s Bible, a twelve volume collaborative work of 36 “ consulting
editors ” plus 124 other “ contributors ”, makes the following observation on this verse,
vol. 1, page 517:
“Cain seems originally to have been the ancestor of the Kenites ... The meaning
of the name is ‘metalworker ’ or ‘ smith ’; here, however, it is represented as a derivation
of a word meaning ‘ acquire ’, ‘ get ’ — one of the popular etymologies frequent in
Genesis — hence the mother’s words I have gotten a man. l From the Lord (KJV) is a
rendering, following the LXX and Vulg., of ’eth Yahweh, which is literally, ‘with
Yahweh ’, and so unintelligible here l ([the words] ‘the help of ’ [RSV] is not in the
Hebrew). It seems probable that ’eth should be ’oth — so, ‘the mark of Yahweh ’ — and
that the words are a gloss ...” [Underlined emphasis mine]
DEAD SEA

[let it shine]

What? There is no biblical nor outsource evidence that Satan is an Angel of Light ,is a reptilian, or can transform.

satan, or 'shaitan', is called a 'jinn' in arabic, supposedly made of smokeless fire, and has the power to shapeshift and 'whisper' telepathically, among other things.

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you two ladies are awesome. i've always thought that the tree of knowledge of good and evil had something to do with intercourse. it also says in revelations that only the chaste, who haven't "defiled themselves with women" will be allowed into heaven. i don't remember what verse, though. and that's really a really interesting theory about cain as well. keep up the good work.

[uncia]

satan, or 'shaitan', is called a 'jinn' in arabic, supposedly made of smokeless fire, and has the power to shapeshift and 'whisper' telepathically, among other things.

Fairy tales. Please stick with reality.

[amethyst]

What? There is no biblical nor outsource evidence that Satan is an Angel of Light ,is a reptilian, or can transform.

"For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." (2nd Corinthians 11:14)

[tannah]

"For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light." (2nd Corinthians 11:14)

That would imply that "he" would create the illusion of being an angel of light.
But I interpret the sentiment as referring to those who preach the truth but whose hearts are not close to it.

[amethyst]

That would imply that "he" would create the illusion of being an angel of light.
But I interpret the sentiment as referring to those who preach the truth but whose hearts are not close to it.

Why wouldn't "he"?

People who themselves are bloodline illuminati can activate and shapeshift into other entities....if they allow it to be activated within themselves.

[biblegirl]

satan, or 'shaitan', is called a 'jinn' in arabic, supposedly made of smokeless fire, and has the power to shapeshift and 'whisper' telepathically, among other things.

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thank you, this is very interesting as i have looked a little into the jinn/angel connection and find it fascinating

it also says in revelations that only the chaste, who haven't "defiled themselves with women" will be allowed into heaven. i don't remember what verse, though. and that's really a really interesting theory about cain as well. keep up the good work.

that is referring the the 144,000 men from the tribes of israel who are sealed in their foreheads, one of their qualities is that they have not defiled themselves with women

[tannah]

Why wouldn't "he"?

People who themselves are bloodline illuminati can activate and shapeshift into other entities....if they allow it to be activated within themselves.

That was my point, it would be an illusion of being an angel of light.
How would one perceive it as an illusion? Simple, a false angel of light appeals to the ego and to elitism. One can "drink" energy ego to ego, but it is impossible to drain energy from someone who is in the safety of the Christ self.
I know this to be true in myself, mainly because I've experienced protection from harm on various occasions.

[amethyst]

That was my point, it would be an illusion of being an angel of light.
How would one perceive it as an illusion? Simple, a false angel of light appeals to the ego and to elitism. One can "drink" energy ego to ego, but it is impossible to drain energy from someone who is in the safety of the Christ self.
I know this to be true in myself, mainly because I've experienced protection from harm on various occasions.

Well yeah, it's part of the illusion, but I also believe it really happened.

[tannah]

Well yeah, it's part of the illusion, but I also believe it really happened.

It happens all the time. "Liberating" Iraq was one of the more modern versions of illusion at play, by a set of wolves in sheep's clothing.

[danceswithbunnies]

I don't know if this video series is any good yet..(will watch it later because right now i am watching something on the new age and the truth movement)

CAIN THE SON OF SATAN
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Here is a link to the video page
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=EveryEyeWillSeeHim&view=videos&start=60

EveryEyeShallSeeHim has another video on nephilim that i would also like to watch..(maybe will skip the yard work...hmm :confused: )
And other videos you might be interested in..

[nicolaj]

thanks for that dancewithbunnies

[amethyst]

I don't know if this video series is any good yet..(will watch it later because right now i am watching something on the new age and the truth movement)

CAIN THE SON OF SATAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF0rm3ffebo
Here is a link to the video page
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=EveryEyeWillSeeHim&view=videos&start=60

EveryEyeShallSeeHim has another video on nephilim that i would also like to watch..(maybe will skip the yard work...hmm :confused: )
And other videos you might be interested in..

Dr. Joye Pugh was interviewed on the Red Ice radio program. She has a book out called "Eden: the Knowledge of Good and Evil" that's very interesting.

[uncia]

People who themselves are bloodline illuminati can activate and shapeshift into other entities....if they allow it to be activated within themselves.
I don't think I find that doctrine in the bible.

[amethyst]

I don't think I find that doctrine in the bible.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058314724&postcount=119

[uncia]

http://davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058314724&postcount=119
Yes, but reptilians have physical bodies, whereas Satan is pure spirit and thus has no shape.

The whole "reptilians" theory should be shunned by all Christians as bunk, unless used as a metaphor for those guided by and enslaved to Satan, which is what I take it for.

[amethyst]

Yes, but reptilians have physical bodies, whereas Satan is pure spirit and thus has no shape.

The whole "reptilians" theory should be shunned by all Christians as bunk, unless used as a metaphor for those guided by and enslaved to Satan, which is what I take it for.

How do you think he had sex with Eve then? He had some sort of body that he transformed himself into. He was apparently very beautiful with all kinds of precious stones that adorned him, before he "fell" according to scripture.

Haven't you heard of Incubus and Sucubus?

[biblegirl]

uncia why would you say satan does not have a body?

[uncia]

uncia why would you say satan does not have a body?
He is an angel, and his demons too, but they can live in people, if invited.

[uncia]

How do you think he had sex with Eve then?
The bible says nothing about him having sex with Eve.


Haven't you heard of Incubus and Sucubus?
Pagan mythology I think. Please don't confuse with reality.

[amethyst]

The bible says nothing about him having sex with Eve.


Pagan mythology I think. Please don't confuse with reality.

So you haven't read anything in this thread....you are just commenting about some random posts you read.

[armoured_amazon]

So you haven't read anything in this thread....you are just commenting about some random posts you read.

lol

[uncia]

So you haven't read anything in this thread....
Actually I contributed to some earlier posts in this thread, which you don't seem to have read. However I think it's time for anyone who calls themselves a Christian to give up this infantile nonsense about "reptilians" except as a metaphor for satanic principalities and authorities and powers and demon controlled people, all of which the bible acknowledges.

[biblegirl]

Actually I contributed to some earlier posts in this thread, which you don't seem to have read. However I think it's time for anyone who calls themselves a Christian to give up this infantile nonsense about "reptilians" except as a metaphor for satanic principalities and authorities and powers and demon controlled people, all of which the bible acknowledges.

that seems a bit backwards, imo they're the same beings, doesn't really matter what name someone uses to describe them

[uncia]

that seems a bit backwards, imo they're the same beings, doesn't really matter what name someone uses to describe them
Yes, but there is far more to "reptilians" than just the name. Very wierd stuff.

[amethyst]

that seems a bit backwards, imo they're the same beings, doesn't really matter what name someone uses to describe them

I agree

And David has talked about them more than most "Christians" who live in the dark ages

[uncia]

I agree

And David has talked about them more than most "Christians" who live in the dark ages
I think Christians have talked about satan worshippers quite a lot too, you know, but perhaps more in days gone by. They just never used wierd terms like "reptilians" so it appears more mundane. Nevertheless I think because of the traditional association of the State with the church, especially in the UK, that many evil aspects of the State and State system were overlooked by the Church and other Christians too.

I'll fully agree than many so-called Christians are pretty dead, and can often no more distinguish Satan from Christ, and Icke has probably done a good job in making people aware of evil people all around, especially in positions of power. However even Icke has not told half the story yet, I fear, and there is so much evil in government that it would beggar belief if you knew it all.

[amethyst]

I think Christians have talked about satan worshippers quite a lot too, you know, but perhaps more in days gone by. They just never used wierd terms like "reptilians" so it appears more mundane. Nevertheless I think because of the traditional association of the State with the church, especially in the UK, that many evil aspects of the State and State system were overlooked by the Church and other Christians too.

I'll fully agree than many so-called Christians are pretty dead, and can often no more distinguish Satan from Christ, and Icke has probably done a good job in making people aware of evil people all around, especially in positions of power. However even Icke has not told half the story yet, I fear, and there is so much evil in government that it would beggar belief if you knew it all.

Yes, but Satan was/is a SERPENT which is a REPTILE....hense, that's where the term "reptilians" come from.

He was the first REPTILIAN that the ancient scriptures mention. Plus, if you read the book of Enoch, which they deliberately left out of the bible and also whom the book of Jude mentions, this tells us all about the nephilim and why they came.

And Christ called the pharisee's, those "religious" leaders of that time, SNAKES and "BROOD OF VIPERS".

Now what is a snake and a viper? A REPTILE.

So, IMO, the term REPTILIAN is a very accurate one.

[biblegirl]

http://forum.fok.nl/topic/609692

In Gen.6 we are told that the angels came down and mated with human women and in turn they women bore giant sons known as the Nephilim. But this does not explain all the half human and half animals of the past that were worshiped as gods. But if look in the book of Enoch we find a major clue.

"And they (the Nephilim) began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones."

Obviously giant men can not have sexual relations with a fish never mind producing offspring. The early records of the ancient Submersions record that the gods mixed their DNA with mankind in a more scientific way. In other words it was done in a test-tube. This has to be how the Nephilim corrupted the seed of all living creatures on earth. This is why the flood had to come and clean the slate of this massive DNA meltdown.

It also says in Genesis that the angels came down again after the flood to mate and have more Nephilim children who went on to build world empires. It was at this time Israel was to exterminate all the Nephilim tribes around her which were over 20 in the Old Testament. Not only that, they were not only to exterminate all the hybrid women and children, but they were also called upon to kill off all the animals. They were not allowed to eat the animals or take them. If the Nephilim were still corrupting seed, this mysterious action of killing all the animals becomes very interesting. It becomes clear that the Nephilim were at it again producing human animal hybrids.

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I believe that the Reptilians that people encounter today are a product of DNA mixing and mating. Unlike real humans they are known to change their shape to look like humans. They are very intelligent and and appear to walk among us. It is when they become very stressed or angered that they loose the human form and revert back to their original Reptilian form. Al Gore was seen on a live television feed doing this exact thing. See http://stargods.org/GoreShapeShifted.htm I personally did not see this but a close friend of mine did and I have also come across many other people on the net who saw it too. Apparently according to these people, Al Gore looked very stressed and angry at the time. One day I would like to find a film of it on the net!

In India human Reptiles are known as the Nagas. Information on them can be found at:
http://www.khandro.net/mysterious_naga.htm

Also there have been many reports of people sighting Reptilians in caves. Folklore seems to indicate that there are other reptilian men that live in the earth but cannot come to the surface as the other ones can. They live in the earth as a separate society. For more information refer to the Dulce Book by Branton at: http://www.title14.com/ufo/dulce/